Absolutely loving my 5n. It brought back the joy the of driving for the fun of driving to me. Something that is so practical and fun, a perfect combo for me.
talked like a true enthusiast driver...not!, how the eff a 2.4 tons EV tank can bring the joy of driving in anything with a pulse?, you sir, don't deserve your driving license.
Honestly, this feels like a piece old top gear would have done. Absolutely ridiculous comoarison on the face of it, yet played so straight. Sheer lunacy and I love it
the same type of vehicle for people who cannot actually drive, nor they can change a gear in a sporty and effective way. It is a 2.4 tons EV tank for those who couldn't even drive an automatic real sports car.
I own a 5N, have already made this comparison in my head. I'm a pure driving enthusiast, I don't care about brand or image one iota, my wife keeps complaining I dress so bad (but I'm naturally handsome). I disgress. I keep coming to two things. What matters to me? One That I can drive as often as I can in something that allows my driving hobby. The 5 N perfectly fits that bill, family car and hoon car in one, both at an incredibly accomplished level. However I would want that to work, that would never happen with the Ferrari. Just too much associations that wouldn't allow me to go under the radar. Two The 5N made me realise it is not if something is real that is important, rather what matters is if it is good. When you watch a movie, you don't care if the movie is real or even realistic, you care if it's good and 'moves' you (pun intended). The Matrix is a great movie on so many levels we even wonder if it's more real than real ;) When you dance, you don't care if the music is real or recorded or electronic, you care if the music is good for dancing or not. And as it turns out it's the same with cars. Cars are, for some at least, entertainment pur sang. After owning too many aftermarket exhausts and switching off fake interior sounds that I hated, I now love driving my 5N pretending to be a gas car. Or not, depending on fancy, mood and fatigue level. Amazing.
I bought the I5N as a poor man’s RS6 Avant. Now I wonder if I’d even trade for an RS6. Don’t get me wrong the RS6 is still one of my all time favs, but this car might be a bit better (aside from sound and luxury) and significantly cheaper to run/maintain. If I could afford it, I’d take the Lusso, but that’s never happening. But i sure am glad Hyundai was able to bring a car to market with comparable performance and grins for 1/4 of the cost. For those into tech (electronics, VR, gaming, etc…), I don’t think there’s anything on the market that combines tech and performance to the level of the I5N. I’ve owned/driven a lot of performance cars in my life. One drive in the I5N and I was signing paperwork within the hour. EV’s aren’t for everyone, but for the car enthusiast that also loves tech, this is the perfect match. Congrats on the ride, everything you said makes me think we might be related😂. This thing is a constant grin machine. Never Just Drive!
@@dijital4588 Dang, I've always pictured the RS6 as my "attainable" dream car. I really liked the 5 N when I test drove it, but I've never driven an RS6 - I only like it because of how it looks, and of course, the power numbers and features it has (eg those adaptive LED headlights are pretty sweet).
@@crxtodd16 I could shoot for a used RS6 but I’m not really interested in owning a German performance/luxury car out of warranty. I think a new one starts around $130k which is well out of my budget until my kids education is paid for. And even then, I think i could find better ways to use that much capital. On paper the I5N is slightly quicker and more spacious. I’m over 6ft and do a lot of soccer dad stuff, so that space matters quite a bit. In the end, you’re paying a premium for better interior appointments, the Audi badge, superior ride quality, better sound, better audio system, longer track run time, no range anxiety, less depreciation as a percentage (not dollar amount), and IMO better looks. But you’re also getting worse infotainment, poor gas mileage, less room, shorter warranty period, higher maintenance costs, less performance, and more pollution. I still love the RS6, but the I5N has me questioning if it’s really worth 2x the price.
what sucks is the Lusso has been one of my favorite cars since the FF came out. I've loved the styling and the sound. but at the end of the day I'd likely take the Ioniq 5N
I never comment until I finish the video, but I saw the Ioniq and the Lusso, and I’ve never clicked on anything faster. “This is the Matrix on wheels.” Now imagine if we are in the Matrix and this car is the Matrix on wheels….🤯 Thanks for the great comparison Gents!
@ I’m not actually a really huge fan of EV’s. I think hybrid may be the way to go. And yup, I understand what Todd was saying. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. 😀
@jjuhring1 ....and lacks character, appeal, and a soul! Leave this conversation for those who actually enjoy driving a vehicle. I'm not a Tesla Hater but in terms of driving capabilities, the Ioniq 5N leads the pack by miles!
@@jjuhring1 I own an I5N, and have driven brand new performance. Hyundai blows the water out of the M3P. Only thing tesla has Self driving capability. Nothing less, nothing more. I5N handles 10 times better, with more track oriented feature. Thats where your $20k savings came from.
@@TheTeamQuestion Pretty amazing to blow water out of a car. The turn of phrase you're looking for is that the Ioniq 5 N blows the Model 3 Performance out of the water.
Similarly to how there are traditional ICE cars for every type of buyer, I'm glad that the EV market is developing in such a way that there can be a variety of options for buyers to select whatever kind of car they want within the EV space. EVs make sense for a lot of people and I can see the appeal for certain lifestyles. Giving those buyers an option to get something fun and engaging without significantly compromising on what they may find attractive about an Electric through customization *cannot* be a bad thing. This is still a burgeoning market segment that I think Hyundai is doing an excellent job in showing the rest of the industry how it can be done well.
The segment about the Matrix is spot on and I never even thought of it that way. That's why people love gas cars; There's many more ways the car is giving you feedback. Another way of looking at "gas mode"... you can drive it like a buffoon and you have no engine or transmission to blow up. No pistons, gears, crankshafts, exhaust, etc., but all the appeal aside from a manual gearbox. Just a battery and two electric motors.
And on top, given you can make it front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, real wheel drive and if you would be able to select any type of sound, it would be possible to, say, drive a civic type R one time and a Ferrari f40 the other time. With some electronics trickery they could mimic the behavior of different types of cars. The potential is enormous.
The glorious thing about this comparision is that the actual answer is "why not both?". I love them both, for entirely different reasons. I'm not a Ferrari guy, but the proportions of the Lusso are perfection. The sound is nearly unrivaled. And then the Ioniq-5N arrives. With similar performance and maybe better engagement, which is a wild statement, I never thought I'd make. Given the choice? I'd have both. As with a ton of other commenters, the reality is I can afford one, and not the other, and it's the 5N. I'm trying desperately to convince myself I should get a 5N.
Your explanations of "fake" remind me of the mirrorless cameras out. They have fake shutter sounds, exposure and other features have been turned digital too. Great review, would love to drive the 5N!
This is the perfect execution of "it would be better if it were worse." All of the things Hyundai did to make the car more fun make it slower. All the internet cares about are numbers and 0-60 times. An enthusiast cares how it drives and feels. Most modern cars have some level of fakery already, from pumped in engine sounds to burble tunes, this is just an evolution. I'm here for it. 😁
Ioniq 5 N vs '25+ Audi RS3. Which would you choose, and why? I test drove the Ioniq 5 N and I was really impressed. I've never been an EV guy, but that thing is something special. The new RS3 has been a car I've been waiting and saving for, but suddenly I'm a tiny bit tempted by the Ioniq. Thoughts?
I got a Seal, solar panels and some stocks. I'm not driving enough at the moment as it has been over 90% all week. So liberating been able to go for a Sunday drive and not worry about gas. I'm glad I got an EV.
Thanks for the replies! I am a widower, so it's just me and my 2 young kids - I don't really need a lot of space in the car, plus I have a small SUV in case I need to carry more stuff. I love the RS3 because there are tons of mods I can do, and because it's light and handles like a go-kart (though I've only driven a 2025 S3, so I'm going off that). I always modify my cars, I like making them get more power and making them unique. However, ever since my wife passed away, I am wanting to spend less time in the garage and more time with my kids, hence the allure of the EV (ie I can't modify it). Also, I have solar panels, I even recently upgraded mine so during summer I'm overproducing. That said, the Ioniq would definitely be cheaper overall, because I wouldn't waste money on modifications and I wouldn't be paying as much for gas/energy. BUT, on the flip side, would I be content with the Ioniq after a couple years? Or would I be frustrated that I can't get more power? Lastly, there are some creature comforts that are factors. With the Ioniq you get heated and ventilated seats, plus a heated steering wheel. I love ventilated seats and a heated wheel. On the RS3 the only thing I'd get that the Ioniq doesn't have is a HUD. I had a G70 a few years ago, and I LOVED the HUD in that thing. So.... Ugh. I don't know. I'm torn.
Look at the cost per mile to commute to work. It will probably seal the deal for you. My EV6 GT(almost the same as the N) costs me 4.5 cents per mile to drive charging at home.
The i5n is unique in that it's a backwards looking EV in how it tries to engage you while the Audi is unique with it being the sole I5 engine left on the market. That engine noise is to die for, fuel bills be damned
14:59 I genuinely think Hyundai is one of the best in the business when it comes to ergonomic design, especially their steering wheels. They give you so many switches and controls to do so many different things, but the spokes are kept small, unlike the likes of Chevy, Subaru, and Toyota. All of the buttons are easy to press without moving your hand too far out the wheel, but the buttons are far enough out of the way that they'll never catch your hand. The only other makes I can think of that consistently do steering wheels as good as Hyundai are Mazda and Porsche. Though I will cede that the 11th gen Civic steering wheel is excellent.
Hi, from Japan!! There have been no uploading videos for a while for you two. I have been worried. So I’m glad to know you guys are doing good!! Well, this is a very interesting video. I would say “you bought a nice car” if my friend buy either of these. IONIQ5 N is very cheap for the capability and more friendly for a family. On the other hand, I admit Ferrari’s real beautiful hustle sound… Applaud for Hyundai and Ferrari!!
Leaving aside all the controversy between combustion cars and electric cars, it is incredible how electric cars allow the performance of combustion super cars for the average citizen. It is almost dangerous to imagine this on a mass scale.
This is why you’re not just another UA-cam car review channel, because you’ve looked beyond the confines of what most people think of as a performance driving car
Another awesome video with epic footage! Interesting comparison for sure. That Hyundai sounds like a heck of lot of fun with all the wizardry going on! It sure is expensive and probably depreciates massively though. Engine control system failure, go to dealer. That isn't the type of "personality" I want my Ferrari exhibiting.
The statement about the refrence points is spot on. Driving a car is ALL about feel, sound, weight, movement,vibration and rythm all working together. If you can't "feel" the engine even when sitting still then it's missing something, part of it is incomplete. EV's are getting better, but they will never have a soul.
If you haven’t driven one, it might be worth a test drive if you can. The engineers did a lot to give it feel and feedback. There’s vibrations and bangs. With the engine sounds on you can feel and hear the engine idling. You can feel vibration when you rev the car from a standstill. I can honestly say, if I was blindfolded, I’m not sure I’d be able to tell the difference between the engine/trans in the ElantraN/i30N and the I5N.
@dijital4588 I haven't, and I would like to drive one. I'm just not sure if I could get over being "lied" to (for lack of a better term) by a car. I've had enough of that over the years from the government, lol. But you ARE right. I should drive one just to be sure. One thing it CAN'T mimic though are the smells. Gas, oil..muted in modern cars, to be sure but still there. Anyway, good points, man. Thanks for the reply, and have a good one!!!
The "need" for shifting and noises in order to enjoy a ride is interesting. Reminds me of some film camera photographers that, 20 years ago, complained about how quiet, soulless, automated, and non-engaging digital cameras were.
Seems like Hyundai needs to make better fake engine sound options. They don't have a v12, so their best option based on a real performance engine is a turbo 4. If executed well, the Ioniq 5N could sound like an F1 car and fake rev to 14k. Or a deep v8 burble. Or MarioKart.
@@bbman85 it is true to themselves, the sound simulates their own turbo 4 and the transmission their own dual clutch. They are auditory and physical reference points, tools for performance driving. And as demonstrated in the video, if you don't like the experience simply turn it off.
Great review and comparison choice it's the things we choose to enjoy the driving experience that count more than the name on the hood. The 5N certainly a fuN car, I am waiting for the aftermarket to code in a Ferrari (like) or Porsche GT3 engine sound...and the Hyundai 6N for a more performance sedan style and hopefully extended range.
People: "EVs are boring and soulless" Hyundai: "we hear you, here is a version that adds power and engagement." People: "Why did you do this, just be an EV" I've never really cared about DCTs but this is certainly better than nothing. Especially given all the noise enthusiasts have made I'm glad to see Hyundai didn't just sit by idly and not try to innovate or improve. I think it's better to have this as an option in the market than to not but i probably wouldn't consider biting until it's in something closer to Veloster size.
Enjoyed the video, and glad you made it, but am struggling to reconcile the very specific and tangible benefits of the fake gears and engine sound of the 5N you explain… then in the same breath call them out as a ‘gimmick’. A bit odd!
It pains me to say it but I would take the 5N over a lot of gas cars, including the Ferrari. Which cars and why? Weight and size may be the key factors. I’d take the 5N over a Mustang but not a Miata or BRZ for example.
Have owned a BRZ (GT86 same thing) and now the 5N. Very different cars. Both driver cars. The GT86 was great to become a better driver, driving on the edge all the time. In comparison the 5 N is dangerous, but also a proper weapon in the hand of a good driver. 5 N is a much more complete car, but using the BRZ/GT86 as a daily was an great experience to have too. Much purer despite programmed steering wheel assist and engine management etc 😂
You did not gain an exhaust note because there is no exhaust. You gained sound through speakers like you're playing Gran Turismo. If that synthetic sound works for you then great. It sure does not work for me. If there could be a very interesting mechanical sound from an electric motor then I could appreciate that - but I can't appreciate the fake stuff. I'm not saying that the 5N isn't fun or worth it for some, but it isn't for me because I don't like fake things.
No fake t*ts then, I can relate to that. However not liking a single movie, that's harder. Theatre? Have a good day? Probably fake too. No modern music either? I hated the fake sounds in my gasoline cars too, but once you get over the fake part, it's actually really enjoyable in the 5 N. Only with the gearbox by the way ...
I almost bought a Ionic 5N. The dealer wouldn't take off their dealer markup. I found a private seller but then decided my wallet would suffer for 7 years. I decided on a used 2019 BMW i3n instead for only $15k instead of $70k for the Ionic 5N. 90% of the fun for so much less. Maybe after the Ionic 5 N becomes a used car in a few years and if it actually depreciates like all other electric cars, then it should be much more affordable to the single middle class man.
I just wish someone would make a fun, EV or Hybrid wagon. Yeah, I know the Polestar V60 is there. But I fear Volvo will axe it prior to me being ready to turn in my V60 in 2027. But if Hyundai made an N wagon like this, ICE, EV, Hybrid... I'd fully be there. But, if a non-lifted performance wagon is around in 2 years, I'll be good. Who knows, maybe the I5N is my next car.
I’m realizing I’m the weird one because I always thought the BMW clown shoe was a hideous looking creation, then Ferrari was like “forget the 250 Lusso, who cares about that car, let’s do a clown shoe but bigger, heavier and even fuglier! 😃” and everyone loves it.
@Jazzzon777 the one in the Mach E gives you no real sense of speed at all. Because the I5N replicates the way an engine works, it helps give you that perception of the reality people are used to. The one in the Mach E is just noise that gets higher pitched as you get faster. And it just sounds like some futuristic noise and doesn't really try to give you a sense of speed.
That 5n will be 35k$ car soon. That other won’t be less then 100k$. And since both serve similar purpose, because EV’s are ticking time bomb, or I should say batteries are. Replacement is going to be more the whole car, so both cost a lot to use them. There’s no question, Ferrari is your choice.
Why can’t they improve the exhaust sound - and have the most delicious ones to Choose from - rather than the tedious Hyundai engine sounds which are pretty s$@T
0:37 It's not an i5N. It's an Ioniq 5N. i5 is BMW. As journalists, you really shouldn't mix nomenclature up. Think about this way. The Porsche 911 is called 911, because Peugeot reserved the naming rights to all 3 digit numbers with a 0 in the middle, back in the day and Porsche wanted to name their car the 901. Peugeot won that lawsuit. Car names/designations are registered trademarks of the respective companies. Again, at 8:43. It's not an i5N.
While you are absolutely correct technically. I5N has become widely used shorthand for this car. Hyundai and most car review magazines have embraced it - put I5N in a browser and you won’t BMW. Thanks for watching!
Does the introduction of gears accompany a torque map (ie, varying torque across the rev range?). My understanding is that EVs have a flat torque curve, in which case no one gear would feel any different from another.
Yes. Gears are torque limited and mapped to simulate gears. You can "shift" and bog the engine. You don't get 100% power in the shifting mode that way you don't lose torque at the top of each "gear" because the single geared electric motor loses torque at high speeds.
This comparison is like bo Derek young looks and acting skills and movies 🎬 (Ioniq) vs Ashley Judd looks any age and acting skills and movies 🎬 (this v12 Ferrari)....
I’m sorry but for me the car that should be a “ N “ should have been its sister car the Kia EV6 GT. Because a desirable performance car should look like a desirable performance car. To me the Ionic 5 N looks like a shoe box hot hatch. The EV6 GT looks sexier.
@djbrianc N is a Hyundai thing though, not Kia. A similar version of the EV6 would be interesting though but I wouldn't expect it to carry a N badge regardless. Similar to how you don't see TRD/GR Lexus products, or Nismo Infinitis.
Unless it has a stick, i'm not interested in it as a fun vehicle. I'd get a standard Ionic 5 as a general utility vehicle, but the N doesn't appeal to me at all. Fake sounds, fake shifting- no thanks. And a Ferrari without a stick shift is an absolute waste of space
Having seen the I5N many times (and in person) I've come away with a thought. Yes, the ability to shift and play a soundtrack for reference points makes this EV more engaging than you'd expect, but it also makes it slower...and that's okay if what you want is "old school" engagement. What I'm wondering about is the reference points the I5N provides in its fastest mode. When the car is set up to do fast laps around a track, which, of course, means you're NOT shifting it, are there EV reverence points that are simply different and, perhaps more difficult, for the average enthusiast driver to pick up on? Would you have to be a professional racing driver...maybe even a professional EV race car driver to notice and make use of EV reference points? Additionally, and somewhat related, I am reminded that EVs DO make noises. Electric motors do make noises, and tires, brakes, etc. still make themselves known. EV noises are not what we're used to, and as time goes on, manufacturers may design their electric motors to sound certain ways (see the Rimac driven by Koenigsegg and Hennessey on the Top Gear feature "Ultimate Hypercar Boss Track Test"). I suppose I am excited about these things (sounds, options, interaction choices, etc.) being developed for "fun" EVs...but I still think the missing piece that makes all the difference is weight. At least for me. I personally don't have any desire for a fifteen ton car regardless of the power figure...whether it's gas powered (see BMW's latest weight figures) or EV. Great video comparison, guys. Loved it.
Aaaaaaaand? The ioniq is a commodity car. There's absolutely no point stressing about depreciation. It is a tool that gets you from A to B, with a little bit of theater. That's it. Tools depreciate. It's a fact of life. Furthermore, I'd be willing to bet the Ioniq would age much better. Look at how much sagging the interior of the Ferrari has. There's cracks in the steering wheel. The sun visor is all bent out of shape. Ferraris are widely known for having dog poop quality issues especially when compared to others like Porsche or LAmbo.
@@aerialbugsmasher don't forget about the wavy nose on the Lusso! Frankly I was surprised that a car so young looks so old, the Lusso is not holding up well.
I'm glad the Ioniq 5N exists. But, I would never use the fake sounds or shifting. Whenever I hustle my EV on a curvy road, I appreciate the refined sound of the motor. I also love the direct drive.
Ferrari is Rolex of automotive industry. Or Omega if you prefer. Hyundai with its sound, drama and interaction is a Rolex from Aliexpress. It looks great and it shows the correct time. But you can't avoid the fact it's all fake.
I don't think you will be happy unless you can complain about your $100 fill for a v12, which we know you would not exceed the range on the i5n anyway. I have logged over 124k on my i5, keep hurling insults, ice will be gone in 40 years because nobody will have the parts or patience to work on them, signed, a technician
@@nicholashaines4136 I've got Lexus ES300h, a refill of €60 gives me 700-800 km range and these are European prices. It doesn't really matter because at the price range starting from 60k, depreciation costs you way more than gas, diesel, electricity or yearly oil change. EVs depreciate big time, not sure why. I've got 11kW solar panels at home and could charge EV for free but that doesn't solve the problem. I think ICE will be gone as soon as EV with solid state batteries will have competitive prices. Currently any 20 years old diesel will easily beat Ioniq 5N on a route from Berlin to Paris and it doesn't matter how many kW it has.
@@nicholashaines4136 You can easily find parts for 1937 BMW or Jaguar E Type. Why would it be different in 40 years from now with Toyota/Lexus or certain Volvos that are capable of running a million km? Yes, solid state batteries will make EVs competitive but when 80% of cars around will be EVs, gas prices will drop inevitably too.
they will be slow and expensive like a model t, you will always have your fans and historians but nobody will be daily driving them, the majority of people who harp on evs have never tried one with an open mind, they are excellent commuting vehicles that are actually fun to drive regardless of noise level.
This rhetoric about EVs needing to be fun according to these auto "journalists" is essentially the want for a faster horse and carriage in the face of Henry Ford. The best drivers around are adaptable to the whatever inputs are available to them and they manage just fine without the fake noise. I like the 5N but the resources spent could have been put to better use. For example, why have a N Grin Boost when you might be able to have 641HP on tap all the time? What's the limiting factor to solve for that?
Heat and battery longevity. Batteries are only rated to be able to operate in temperature bands and can only export certain amounts of energy within those bands. 641HP is 477KW. 477kw is nearly half a megawatt, we're talking small power plant levels of energy moving (if even for short periods of time) around the vehicle. If you look at other performance EVs many of them will limit power after under 10 minutes of spirited driving to avoid things like thermal runaway causing fires and battery damage or degradation. Thinking about it another way, if you were to floor it and actually pull 477kw out of an 84kwh battery the battery would go from 100-0 in just over 10 minutes. The car is one of the fastest charging cars in North America and can only do 10-80 in perfect conditions in 18 minutes and that is almost never actually achieved in the real world, normally taking 20-22 minutes. That amount of output would probably ignite the car. That's not to mention the motors also generate heat and need to be thermally managed and the heat pump system can only move a certain amount of heat around in any given period of time. So allowing all of the power all of the time could end up being catastrophic for components and Hyundai is one of the few manufacturers that honor warranty for their vehicles even if you track it.
Guy, WTF!? 17:55 "coming to strange conclusions". What conclusions? You presented nothing, no stats, no data, no opinions, that haven't already been expressed by 50 other reviewers of the I5-N. And worse yet, you're doing it 12 months late.
I like the concept of the "gears", but I'm with you on trying to replicate a gas car. I would much rather it be just a set of motor-speed limiters to help gauge corner-entry speed, and maybe the augmentation of the electric motor's natural sound. Embrace the EV, but with more engagment.
Eh. I am still not very impressed with EV's even with all the bells and whistles to make them sound/feel better. Meh.. Trump FTW get rid of this electric nonsense.
Absolutely loving my 5n. It brought back the joy the of driving for the fun of driving to me. Something that is so practical and fun, a perfect combo for me.
talked like a true enthusiast driver...not!, how the eff a 2.4 tons EV tank can bring the joy of driving in anything with a pulse?, you sir, don't deserve your driving license.
Honestly, this feels like a piece old top gear would have done. Absolutely ridiculous comoarison on the face of it, yet played so straight. Sheer lunacy and I love it
We take that as a big compliment. Thank you for watching and connecting with the concept!
I can't wait to see how crazy the 6N is going to be!
That's crazy!
the same type of vehicle for people who cannot actually drive, nor they can change a gear in a sporty and effective way. It is a 2.4 tons EV tank for those who couldn't even drive an automatic real sports car.
I own a 5N, have already made this comparison in my head. I'm a pure driving enthusiast, I don't care about brand or image one iota, my wife keeps complaining I dress so bad (but I'm naturally handsome). I disgress.
I keep coming to two things. What matters to me?
One
That I can drive as often as I can in something that allows my driving hobby. The 5 N perfectly fits that bill, family car and hoon car in one, both at an incredibly accomplished level. However I would want that to work, that would never happen with the Ferrari. Just too much associations that wouldn't allow me to go under the radar.
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The 5N made me realise it is not if something is real that is important, rather what matters is if it is good. When you watch a movie, you don't care if the movie is real or even realistic, you care if it's good and 'moves' you (pun intended). The Matrix is a great movie on so many levels we even wonder if it's more real than real ;) When you dance, you don't care if the music is real or recorded or electronic, you care if the music is good for dancing or not. And as it turns out it's the same with cars. Cars are, for some at least, entertainment pur sang.
After owning too many aftermarket exhausts and switching off fake interior sounds that I hated, I now love driving my 5N pretending to be a gas car. Or not, depending on fancy, mood and fatigue level. Amazing.
I bought the I5N as a poor man’s RS6 Avant. Now I wonder if I’d even trade for an RS6. Don’t get me wrong the RS6 is still one of my all time favs, but this car might be a bit better (aside from sound and luxury) and significantly cheaper to run/maintain. If I could afford it, I’d take the Lusso, but that’s never happening. But i sure am glad Hyundai was able to bring a car to market with comparable performance and grins for 1/4 of the cost.
For those into tech (electronics, VR, gaming, etc…), I don’t think there’s anything on the market that combines tech and performance to the level of the I5N. I’ve owned/driven a lot of performance cars in my life. One drive in the I5N and I was signing paperwork within the hour. EV’s aren’t for everyone, but for the car enthusiast that also loves tech, this is the perfect match.
Congrats on the ride, everything you said makes me think we might be related😂. This thing is a constant grin machine. Never Just Drive!
@@dijital4588 Dang, I've always pictured the RS6 as my "attainable" dream car. I really liked the 5 N when I test drove it, but I've never driven an RS6 - I only like it because of how it looks, and of course, the power numbers and features it has (eg those adaptive LED headlights are pretty sweet).
@@crxtodd16 I could shoot for a used RS6 but I’m not really interested in owning a German performance/luxury car out of warranty. I think a new one starts around $130k which is well out of my budget until my kids education is paid for. And even then, I think i could find better ways to use that much capital. On paper the I5N is slightly quicker and more spacious. I’m over 6ft and do a lot of soccer dad stuff, so that space matters quite a bit.
In the end, you’re paying a premium for better interior appointments, the Audi badge, superior ride quality, better sound, better audio system, longer track run time, no range anxiety, less depreciation as a percentage (not dollar amount), and IMO better looks. But you’re also getting worse infotainment, poor gas mileage, less room, shorter warranty period, higher maintenance costs, less performance, and more pollution.
I still love the RS6, but the I5N has me questioning if it’s really worth 2x the price.
Man, you guys nailed the exhaust sound recording!
Genuinely. This is the first video I've seen that seems to actually do the I5N's sound justice.
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Paul and Todd, you are geniuses for drawing this comparison. Who else would think of this?
PLEASE keep doing what you do!
what sucks is the Lusso has been one of my favorite cars since the FF came out. I've loved the styling and the sound. but at the end of the day I'd likely take the Ioniq 5N
At the end of day I could afford to daily the EV. The Ferrari, not so much. Maintenance and gas.
I never comment until I finish the video, but I saw the Ioniq and the Lusso, and I’ve never clicked on anything faster. “This is the Matrix on wheels.” Now imagine if we are in the Matrix and this car is the Matrix on wheels….🤯 Thanks for the great comparison Gents!
the subtle joke being the fact that ignorance is bliss; you sir, and all the other EV sports car adoration crowd, are on the wrong side of ignorance.
@ I’m not actually a really huge fan of EV’s. I think hybrid may be the way to go. And yup, I understand what Todd was saying. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. 😀
Ioniq 5N, the only EV that matters.
Except for my Model 3 Performance, that has the same performance, and I have $20k more in my pocket!
@jjuhring1 ....and lacks character, appeal, and a soul! Leave this conversation for those who actually enjoy driving a vehicle. I'm not a Tesla Hater but in terms of driving capabilities, the Ioniq 5N leads the pack by miles!
@@jjuhring1 I own an I5N, and have driven brand new performance. Hyundai blows the water out of the M3P. Only thing tesla has Self driving capability. Nothing less, nothing more. I5N handles 10 times better, with more track oriented feature. Thats where your $20k savings came from.
Tesla = car, N = machine
@@TheTeamQuestion Pretty amazing to blow water out of a car. The turn of phrase you're looking for is that the Ioniq 5 N blows the Model 3 Performance out of the water.
Similarly to how there are traditional ICE cars for every type of buyer, I'm glad that the EV market is developing in such a way that there can be a variety of options for buyers to select whatever kind of car they want within the EV space. EVs make sense for a lot of people and I can see the appeal for certain lifestyles. Giving those buyers an option to get something fun and engaging without significantly compromising on what they may find attractive about an Electric through customization *cannot* be a bad thing. This is still a burgeoning market segment that I think Hyundai is doing an excellent job in showing the rest of the industry how it can be done well.
The segment about the Matrix is spot on and I never even thought of it that way. That's why people love gas cars; There's many more ways the car is giving you feedback.
Another way of looking at "gas mode"... you can drive it like a buffoon and you have no engine or transmission to blow up. No pistons, gears, crankshafts, exhaust, etc., but all the appeal aside from a manual gearbox. Just a battery and two electric motors.
And on top, given you can make it front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, real wheel drive and if you would be able to select any type of sound, it would be possible to, say, drive a civic type R one time and a Ferrari f40 the other time. With some electronics trickery they could mimic the behavior of different types of cars. The potential is enormous.
The ionic cars continue to punch way above their expected weight classes, I love it! This was a wild comparison and it was awesome
Well, it literally weighs more than most of the cars that it drag races.
The glorious thing about this comparision is that the actual answer is "why not both?". I love them both, for entirely different reasons. I'm not a Ferrari guy, but the proportions of the Lusso are perfection. The sound is nearly unrivaled. And then the Ioniq-5N arrives. With similar performance and maybe better engagement, which is a wild statement, I never thought I'd make. Given the choice? I'd have both. As with a ton of other commenters, the reality is I can afford one, and not the other, and it's the 5N. I'm trying desperately to convince myself I should get a 5N.
Your explanations of "fake" remind me of the mirrorless cameras out. They have fake shutter sounds, exposure and other features have been turned digital too. Great review, would love to drive the 5N!
The sound of the V12 is 😊
This is the perfect execution of "it would be better if it were worse." All of the things Hyundai did to make the car more fun make it slower.
All the internet cares about are numbers and 0-60 times. An enthusiast cares how it drives and feels. Most modern cars have some level of fakery already, from pumped in engine sounds to burble tunes, this is just an evolution.
I'm here for it. 😁
The N is a tune, well audio file away, from having a V12 soundtrack 😳
Future mod market item?
Give me that high rpm f1 sound.
Blue Pill for me. I appreciate that Hyundai is at least trying to put “fun” first in EVs.
maybe in America, fun means something different...but, 2.4 tons for a sports car is fun only for people who cannot actually drive.
Ioniq 5 N vs '25+ Audi RS3. Which would you choose, and why?
I test drove the Ioniq 5 N and I was really impressed. I've never been an EV guy, but that thing is something special. The new RS3 has been a car I've been waiting and saving for, but suddenly I'm a tiny bit tempted by the Ioniq. Thoughts?
I got a Seal, solar panels and some stocks. I'm not driving enough at the moment as it has been over 90% all week. So liberating been able to go for a Sunday drive and not worry about gas. I'm glad I got an EV.
@crxtodd16 I'd say if you need the space then the I5N is the better pick. If you don't, probably the RS3 but I could go either way tbh
Thanks for the replies! I am a widower, so it's just me and my 2 young kids - I don't really need a lot of space in the car, plus I have a small SUV in case I need to carry more stuff.
I love the RS3 because there are tons of mods I can do, and because it's light and handles like a go-kart (though I've only driven a 2025 S3, so I'm going off that). I always modify my cars, I like making them get more power and making them unique. However, ever since my wife passed away, I am wanting to spend less time in the garage and more time with my kids, hence the allure of the EV (ie I can't modify it).
Also, I have solar panels, I even recently upgraded mine so during summer I'm overproducing. That said, the Ioniq would definitely be cheaper overall, because I wouldn't waste money on modifications and I wouldn't be paying as much for gas/energy. BUT, on the flip side, would I be content with the Ioniq after a couple years? Or would I be frustrated that I can't get more power?
Lastly, there are some creature comforts that are factors. With the Ioniq you get heated and ventilated seats, plus a heated steering wheel. I love ventilated seats and a heated wheel.
On the RS3 the only thing I'd get that the Ioniq doesn't have is a HUD. I had a G70 a few years ago, and I LOVED the HUD in that thing. So.... Ugh. I don't know.
I'm torn.
Look at the cost per mile to commute to work. It will probably seal the deal for you. My EV6 GT(almost the same as the N) costs me 4.5 cents per mile to drive charging at home.
The i5n is unique in that it's a backwards looking EV in how it tries to engage you while the Audi is unique with it being the sole I5 engine left on the market. That engine noise is to die for, fuel bills be damned
14:59 I genuinely think Hyundai is one of the best in the business when it comes to ergonomic design, especially their steering wheels. They give you so many switches and controls to do so many different things, but the spokes are kept small, unlike the likes of Chevy, Subaru, and Toyota. All of the buttons are easy to press without moving your hand too far out the wheel, but the buttons are far enough out of the way that they'll never catch your hand. The only other makes I can think of that consistently do steering wheels as good as Hyundai are Mazda and Porsche. Though I will cede that the 11th gen Civic steering wheel is excellent.
Love the i5N. Patiently waiting for an i6N
Hi, from Japan!! There have been no uploading videos for a while for you two. I have been worried. So I’m glad to know you guys are doing good!! Well, this is a very interesting video. I would say “you bought a nice car” if my friend buy either of these. IONIQ5 N is very cheap for the capability and more friendly for a family. On the other hand, I admit Ferrari’s real beautiful hustle sound… Applaud for Hyundai and Ferrari!!
Leaving aside all the controversy between combustion cars and electric cars, it is incredible how electric cars allow the performance of combustion super cars for the average citizen. It is almost dangerous to imagine this on a mass scale.
This is why you’re not just another UA-cam car review channel, because you’ve looked beyond the confines of what most people think of as a performance driving car
Another awesome video with epic footage! Interesting comparison for sure. That Hyundai sounds like a heck of lot of fun with all the wizardry going on! It sure is expensive and probably depreciates massively though. Engine control system failure, go to dealer. That isn't the type of "personality" I want my Ferrari exhibiting.
Bravo! What a great idea for a video. You guys are the best in the biz.
Thanks!
Fantastic video. Out of the box comparison. Love it!
The statement about the refrence points is spot on. Driving a car is ALL about feel, sound, weight, movement,vibration and rythm all working together. If you can't "feel" the engine even when sitting still then it's missing something, part of it is incomplete. EV's are getting better, but they will never have a soul.
If you haven’t driven one, it might be worth a test drive if you can. The engineers did a lot to give it feel and feedback. There’s vibrations and bangs. With the engine sounds on you can feel and hear the engine idling. You can feel vibration when you rev the car from a standstill. I can honestly say, if I was blindfolded, I’m not sure I’d be able to tell the difference between the engine/trans in the ElantraN/i30N and the I5N.
@dijital4588 I haven't, and I would like to drive one. I'm just not sure if I could get over being "lied" to (for lack of a better term) by a car. I've had enough of that over the years from the government, lol. But you ARE right. I should drive one just to be sure. One thing it CAN'T mimic though are the smells. Gas, oil..muted in modern cars, to be sure but still there.
Anyway, good points, man. Thanks for the reply, and have a good one!!!
AWESOME comparison guys
Loved every aspect of it
👊🏻😎
This is a all-in -one car with a range that sucks? What do you expect of a supercar?😊😊😊
You know it's gonna be a good one when the boys open a video by defending their methodology.
"N= fun first efficient second." I love this quote.
The "need" for shifting and noises in order to enjoy a ride is interesting.
Reminds me of some film camera photographers that, 20 years ago, complained about how quiet, soulless, automated, and non-engaging digital cameras were.
Seems like Hyundai needs to make better fake engine sound options. They don't have a v12, so their best option based on a real performance engine is a turbo 4.
If executed well, the Ioniq 5N could sound like an F1 car and fake rev to 14k. Or a deep v8 burble. Or MarioKart.
Just at the intro and I'm already annoyed at the fake sounds in the Hyundai. Don't try to fake what you are not, stay true to yourself.
@@bbman85 it is true to themselves, the sound simulates their own turbo 4 and the transmission their own dual clutch. They are auditory and physical reference points, tools for performance driving. And as demonstrated in the video, if you don't like the experience simply turn it off.
Theie engine sound is already based on the 2.0T from the Elantra N.
FINALLY an honest comparison without the regular "Combustion-brainwash"... awesome
Ioniq6n coming soon. Very excited to see it
Love you guys, but I call BS…. This was just an excuse to drive the Ferrari. And I fully respect that!
Ioniq 5 is spelled with a "q" , not "c"
I was pretty much having this conversation the other day!
Great review and comparison choice it's the things we choose to enjoy the driving experience that count more than the name on the hood. The 5N certainly a fuN car, I am waiting for the aftermarket to code in a Ferrari (like) or Porsche GT3 engine sound...and the Hyundai 6N for a more performance sedan style and hopefully extended range.
People: "EVs are boring and soulless"
Hyundai: "we hear you, here is a version that adds power and engagement."
People: "Why did you do this, just be an EV"
I've never really cared about DCTs but this is certainly better than nothing. Especially given all the noise enthusiasts have made I'm glad to see Hyundai didn't just sit by idly and not try to innovate or improve. I think it's better to have this as an option in the market than to not but i probably wouldn't consider biting until it's in something closer to Veloster size.
Well done guys!
Never. The End.
Been waitin on this one!
Enjoyed the video, and glad you made it, but am struggling to reconcile the very specific and tangible benefits of the fake gears and engine sound of the 5N you explain… then in the same breath call them out as a ‘gimmick’. A bit odd!
It pains me to say it but I would take the 5N over a lot of gas cars, including the Ferrari. Which cars and why? Weight and size may be the key factors. I’d take the 5N over a Mustang but not a Miata or BRZ for example.
Have owned a BRZ (GT86 same thing) and now the 5N. Very different cars. Both driver cars. The GT86 was great to become a better driver, driving on the edge all the time. In comparison the 5 N is dangerous, but also a proper weapon in the hand of a good driver.
5 N is a much more complete car, but using the BRZ/GT86 as a daily was an great experience to have too. Much purer despite programmed steering wheel assist and engine management etc 😂
Not same number of seats. 5 vs 4....
You did not gain an exhaust note because there is no exhaust. You gained sound through speakers like you're playing Gran Turismo. If that synthetic sound works for you then great. It sure does not work for me. If there could be a very interesting mechanical sound from an electric motor then I could appreciate that - but I can't appreciate the fake stuff. I'm not saying that the 5N isn't fun or worth it for some, but it isn't for me because I don't like fake things.
No fake t*ts then, I can relate to that. However not liking a single movie, that's harder. Theatre? Have a good day? Probably fake too. No modern music either?
I hated the fake sounds in my gasoline cars too, but once you get over the fake part, it's actually really enjoyable in the 5 N. Only with the gearbox by the way ...
@@ninjadriver3271 Push it as far as you want...but I do not like fake breasts...
Just fyi Albert is no longer running things at N it's now Manfred Harrer and Chung Kook Park
I almost bought a Ionic 5N. The dealer wouldn't take off their dealer markup. I found a private seller but then decided my wallet would suffer for 7 years. I decided on a used 2019 BMW i3n instead for only $15k instead of $70k for the Ionic 5N. 90% of the fun for so much less. Maybe after the Ionic 5 N becomes a used car in a few years and if it actually depreciates like all other electric cars, then it should be much more affordable to the single middle class man.
Short answer: *Never!*
EV’s 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I just wish someone would make a fun, EV or Hybrid wagon. Yeah, I know the Polestar V60 is there. But I fear Volvo will axe it prior to me being ready to turn in my V60 in 2027.
But if Hyundai made an N wagon like this, ICE, EV, Hybrid... I'd fully be there. But, if a non-lifted performance wagon is around in 2 years, I'll be good. Who knows, maybe the I5N is my next car.
11:48 Carbon fibre bike is so light tho.
I'm waiting for a Genesis Magma convertible with crazy sound 😜
I’m realizing I’m the weird one because I always thought the BMW clown shoe was a hideous looking creation, then Ferrari was like “forget the 250 Lusso, who cares about that car, let’s do a clown shoe but bigger, heavier and even fuglier! 😃” and everyone loves it.
I am curious what you guys are going to think about the new dodge charger. Why is the sound on this one so much better than the mach-e?
@Jazzzon777 the one in the Mach E gives you no real sense of speed at all. Because the I5N replicates the way an engine works, it helps give you that perception of the reality people are used to. The one in the Mach E is just noise that gets higher pitched as you get faster. And it just sounds like some futuristic noise and doesn't really try to give you a sense of speed.
This fake bullshit sound and "transmission" is soo pathetic.
That 5n will be 35k$ car soon. That other won’t be less then 100k$. And since both serve similar purpose, because EV’s are ticking time bomb, or I should say batteries are. Replacement is going to be more the whole car, so both cost a lot to use them. There’s no question, Ferrari is your choice.
19:16 Did Tesla install that Ferrari's hood/bumper?
7:12 I'm not sure if Todd's describing a car or a prostitute 😆
Someone sat on that Ferrari front end
“Which of these would I want?” Neither, I’ll keep my new petrol Macan GTS.
Why can’t they improve the exhaust sound - and have the most delicious ones to Choose from - rather than the tedious Hyundai engine sounds which are pretty s$@T
If the infrastructure was there, I'd own an Ionic 5N.
Great car
0:37 It's not an i5N. It's an Ioniq 5N. i5 is BMW. As journalists, you really shouldn't mix nomenclature up.
Think about this way. The Porsche 911 is called 911, because Peugeot reserved the naming rights to all 3 digit numbers with a 0 in the middle, back in the day and Porsche wanted to name their car the 901. Peugeot won that lawsuit. Car names/designations are registered trademarks of the respective companies.
Again, at 8:43. It's not an i5N.
While you are absolutely correct technically. I5N has become widely used shorthand for this car. Hyundai and most car review magazines have embraced it - put I5N in a browser and you won’t BMW. Thanks for watching!
Does the introduction of gears accompany a torque map (ie, varying torque across the rev range?). My understanding is that EVs have a flat torque curve, in which case no one gear would feel any different from another.
I believe it does as when you want maximum performance it ditches the gears.
Yes. Gears are torque limited and mapped to simulate gears. You can "shift" and bog the engine. You don't get 100% power in the shifting mode that way you don't lose torque at the top of each "gear" because the single geared electric motor loses torque at high speeds.
what road is this ?
At 19:12, Lord Farquaad makes an appearance.
This comparison is like bo Derek young looks and acting skills and movies 🎬 (Ioniq) vs Ashley Judd looks any age and acting skills and movies 🎬 (this v12 Ferrari)....
I’m sorry but for me the car that should be a “ N “ should have been its sister car the Kia EV6 GT. Because a desirable performance car should look like a desirable performance car. To me the Ionic 5 N looks like a shoe box hot hatch. The EV6 GT looks sexier.
@djbrianc N is a Hyundai thing though, not Kia. A similar version of the EV6 would be interesting though but I wouldn't expect it to carry a N badge regardless. Similar to how you don't see TRD/GR Lexus products, or Nismo Infinitis.
Ioniq 5N is perfect for gamers!
My Mazda3 hatch awd is closer in resemblance to a Ferrari shooting brake.
Unless it has a stick, i'm not interested in it as a fun vehicle. I'd get a standard Ionic 5 as a general utility vehicle, but the N doesn't appeal to me at all. Fake sounds, fake shifting- no thanks. And a Ferrari without a stick shift is an absolute waste of space
Not saying either cars are good or bad. I'm just tired of fake stuff.
Both cars are cool though
Both cool in their own way, but I am not the buyer for either one. If I had to pick, Lusso of course for the win. It’s only money, right?
Hahaha 😂 whatever dudes. Sorry u spent time editing this video
Fun video
Having seen the I5N many times (and in person) I've come away with a thought. Yes, the ability to shift and play a soundtrack for reference points makes this EV more engaging than you'd expect, but it also makes it slower...and that's okay if what you want is "old school" engagement. What I'm wondering about is the reference points the I5N provides in its fastest mode. When the car is set up to do fast laps around a track, which, of course, means you're NOT shifting it, are there EV reverence points that are simply different and, perhaps more difficult, for the average enthusiast driver to pick up on? Would you have to be a professional racing driver...maybe even a professional EV race car driver to notice and make use of EV reference points?
Additionally, and somewhat related, I am reminded that EVs DO make noises. Electric motors do make noises, and tires, brakes, etc. still make themselves known. EV noises are not what we're used to, and as time goes on, manufacturers may design their electric motors to sound certain ways (see the Rimac driven by Koenigsegg and Hennessey on the Top Gear feature "Ultimate Hypercar Boss Track Test").
I suppose I am excited about these things (sounds, options, interaction choices, etc.) being developed for "fun" EVs...but I still think the missing piece that makes all the difference is weight. At least for me. I personally don't have any desire for a fifteen ton car regardless of the power figure...whether it's gas powered (see BMW's latest weight figures) or EV.
Great video comparison, guys. Loved it.
6n 테스트 차가 도로를 달리구 있다
5n 보다 성능이 좋다고 하네여~
The Hyundai is cool, but give me the Ferrari! The Ferrari, is coooooool.....
Incoming Ferrari cease and desist 😂
Paul might be snobby but he’s not a douchebag so stick with porsche.
A new I5N will deprecate 50% in 3 years while the Ferrari, admittedly at twice the price used, will probably stay pretty steady for a while.
Aaaaaaaand? The ioniq is a commodity car. There's absolutely no point stressing about depreciation. It is a tool that gets you from A to B, with a little bit of theater. That's it. Tools depreciate. It's a fact of life. Furthermore, I'd be willing to bet the Ioniq would age much better. Look at how much sagging the interior of the Ferrari has. There's cracks in the steering wheel. The sun visor is all bent out of shape. Ferraris are widely known for having dog poop quality issues especially when compared to others like Porsche or LAmbo.
@@aerialbugsmasher don't forget about the wavy nose on the Lusso! Frankly I was surprised that a car so young looks so old, the Lusso is not holding up well.
11:48 Passing a cyclist on a blind hairpin is.... questionable.
I'm glad the Ioniq 5N exists. But, I would never use the fake sounds or shifting. Whenever I hustle my EV on a curvy road, I appreciate the refined sound of the motor. I also love the direct drive.
Is that Dereck's Lusso?
It is, yes!
@@EverydayDriver Hi Todd and Paul. It's Adrian from the Beartooth trip . Miss you guys!
@@skiptumilu2620 Hi Adrian, great to hear from you! Miss you too and hope you can join us again! Got your email too - talk soon.
That ferrari has a dent in the front bumper and I cant fooking stand it
@austinhyer it's not a dent, it was wavy. Apparently it's a known problem on the FF/Lusso.
yay H
Ferrari is Rolex of automotive industry. Or Omega if you prefer.
Hyundai with its sound, drama and interaction is a Rolex from Aliexpress. It looks great and it shows the correct time. But you can't avoid the fact it's all fake.
I don't think you will be happy unless you can complain about your $100 fill for a v12, which we know you would not exceed the range on the i5n anyway. I have logged over 124k on my i5, keep hurling insults, ice will be gone in 40 years because nobody will have the parts or patience to work on them, signed, a technician
@@nicholashaines4136 I've got Lexus ES300h, a refill of €60 gives me 700-800 km range and these are European prices. It doesn't really matter because at the price range starting from 60k, depreciation costs you way more than gas, diesel, electricity or yearly oil change. EVs depreciate big time, not sure why. I've got 11kW solar panels at home and could charge EV for free but that doesn't solve the problem.
I think ICE will be gone as soon as EV with solid state batteries will have competitive prices. Currently any 20 years old diesel will easily beat Ioniq 5N on a route from Berlin to Paris and it doesn't matter how many kW it has.
@@nicholashaines4136 You can easily find parts for 1937 BMW or Jaguar E Type. Why would it be different in 40 years from now with Toyota/Lexus or certain Volvos that are capable of running a million km?
Yes, solid state batteries will make EVs competitive but when 80% of cars around will be EVs, gas prices will drop inevitably too.
they will be slow and expensive like a model t, you will always have your fans and historians but nobody will be daily driving them, the majority of people who harp on evs have never tried one with an open mind, they are excellent commuting vehicles that are actually fun to drive regardless of noise level.
@@nicholashaines4136 Well let's assume that's in 40 years. Since I'll be dead by that time, couldn't care less.
This rhetoric about EVs needing to be fun according to these auto "journalists" is essentially the want for a faster horse and carriage in the face of Henry Ford. The best drivers around are adaptable to the whatever inputs are available to them and they manage just fine without the fake noise.
I like the 5N but the resources spent could have been put to better use. For example, why have a N Grin Boost when you might be able to have 641HP on tap all the time? What's the limiting factor to solve for that?
Heat and battery longevity. Batteries are only rated to be able to operate in temperature bands and can only export certain amounts of energy within those bands.
641HP is 477KW. 477kw is nearly half a megawatt, we're talking small power plant levels of energy moving (if even for short periods of time) around the vehicle.
If you look at other performance EVs many of them will limit power after under 10 minutes of spirited driving to avoid things like thermal runaway causing fires and battery damage or degradation.
Thinking about it another way, if you were to floor it and actually pull 477kw out of an 84kwh battery the battery would go from 100-0 in just over 10 minutes. The car is one of the fastest charging cars in North America and can only do 10-80 in perfect conditions in 18 minutes and that is almost never actually achieved in the real world, normally taking 20-22 minutes.
That amount of output would probably ignite the car.
That's not to mention the motors also generate heat and need to be thermally managed and the heat pump system can only move a certain amount of heat around in any given period of time. So allowing all of the power all of the time could end up being catastrophic for components and Hyundai is one of the few manufacturers that honor warranty for their vehicles even if you track it.
Guy, WTF!? 17:55 "coming to strange conclusions". What conclusions? You presented nothing, no stats, no data, no opinions, that haven't already been expressed by 50 other reviewers of the I5-N. And worse yet, you're doing it 12 months late.
Congrats, you missed the complete point of the vid...
Sircn
it's just sound
it's all you have
ate your lairing to yourself mybe
not for me .
if you're a lair ok it's good
ugly color for a ferrari
I really personally despise the pretend engine sounds and shifts. Just be what you are. Dont try to lie to me.
Turn it off
@@sidewaystheseven Right! Slow people complain first before thinking, if they ever get to that part.
@@lcsighteken2248 Imagine being this offended over an opinion.
I like the concept of the "gears", but I'm with you on trying to replicate a gas car. I would much rather it be just a set of motor-speed limiters to help gauge corner-entry speed, and maybe the augmentation of the electric motor's natural sound. Embrace the EV, but with more engagment.
Maybe you should try it first
Toaster 💩🍞🤮👎
Eh. I am still not very impressed with EV's even with all the bells and whistles to make them sound/feel better.
Meh.. Trump FTW get rid of this electric nonsense.