Although you're right about the two other Spiderman series of films (5 films) not being in the MCU, you nevertheless HAVE to start watching them (if you haven't seen them) in parallel with the next few films (maybe alternate between the 5 films and the MCU movies for a while) for reasons I won't disclose to you right now. Trust us, it will be worth it. :)
@@maxducoudray. Duh! Spoiler alert⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️ What Daniel is talking about is the Maguire and Garfield Spider-Man’s in “No Way Home”. That’s why they are required prerequisites. Not watching them wound be like watching a parody movie like “Scary Movie” without first watching “Scream”, “I Know What You Did Last Summer” etc…..! You don’t getting any of the jokes and references.
I am normally the guy to step on suggestions like this immediately, but in this case watching all five of the Sony films is a good idea, to really appreciate No Way Home.
Vulture was actually Peter's "first" Supervillain appearing in *Amazing Spider-Man #2* (February, 1963) the 2nd Spider-Man comic if you don't count Amazing Fantasy #15 the first appearance of Spider-Man. Spider-Man's first villain was Chameleon who overtime has become a massive villain but at the time he wouldn't of been classed as a Supervillain so that's why Vulture is seen as his first. So them using Vulture as Peter's first real MCU villain is a fun nod back to the comics. Vulture was also meant to be the villain in the cancelled Spider-Man 4 starring Tobey Maguire. Would've been a very dark storyline fitting with this more mature and older Spider-Man in his early 20s but of course the film was cancelled and we had to wait 9 years to see Vulture in live action.
Yes. And there were other villains here. The Shocker is a minor recurring Spiderman villain with a weapon that makes a vibration "shockwave" that can be used to knock people out and break through bank vault doors, etc. The techie guy working for Toomes was The Tinkerer (or "The Terrible Tinkerer") who makes various gadgets to commit crimes with - and he's one of the earliest Spiderman villains. Also that other guy, Mac Gargan, the one we see talking to Toomes in prison at the end, with a tattoo of a scorpion, will presumably eventually become The Scorpion, another classic Spiderman villain, with powers similar to Spiderman, but, you know, a scorpion instead of a spider. And the guy Spidey "interrogates" is Aaron Davis, who is The Prowler in the main comic-book universe, but might not be in the MCU. Remember, these are just things from the comics, any of which might be very different in the MCU. And Mr, Delmar, the deli owner, eventually becomes one of the most powerful supervillains ever: The Deli Owner! I'm pretty sure I made that last one up.
Peter lives with his aunt because his parents died when he was young. That's the short answer anyway, but the story of Peter's parents gets a lot more complicated and convoluted than that in the comics. I doubt the movies will ever address his parents' history though, so it's enough to just know that they died. The villain's name is The Vulture, but the only time they use the name in the movie is at the end when Spidey's note refers to him as the Vulture guy.
Hello, remember in Iron Man 2 when a little kid wearing a mask got in front of the robots? That was Peter. The actual “years later” is 4 not 8. So, The A enters takes place 2012, Homecoming 2016.
So in term of his strength, this actually makes more sense than some of the other stuff. In this movie we see Peter lift a collapsed building that had fallen on him (which is a nod to a very iconic panel moment in the comics). If you can do that, then if you were to swing full on and punch someone, you could seriously injure or even potentially kill them. So he pulls his punches. They'll introduce something later that combined with all that makes him probably one of the strongest human characters in Marvel. And no, Flash is not The Flash. That hero is DC. This Flash is Flash Thompson. In the comics he started off as a bully of Peter.
Spider-Man can lift 10 tons (Remember when Bucky punched him with the metal arm, Peter caught it easily), is very smart (he invented his webbing and the web shooters), and has a “spidey sense” that alerts him to danger. It’s very difficult to fight him when he’s tuned into his senses.
FLASH here is just a nickname for the school bully. He's in the comic books as one of the re-occurring characters in Perter Parker's school life. THE FLASH is a superhero from the DC universe that runs really fast.
I wouldn’t say that Spider-Man is the most powerful superhero but he’s a lot stronger than casual viewers give him credit for. In terms of pure physical strength Spider-Man is a lot stronger than Captain America, also it’s important to realize that he pulls his punches because he doesn’t want to kill anyone. At this moment the only thing that Spider-Man really lacks is experience once he gets older he’ll be much more powerful and skilled
Also Peter in the comics is probably 7th most intelligent human being in the Marvel universe. Valeria Richards, Reed Richards, Victor Von Doom, Hank Pym, Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, then Peter in that order probably.
MJ AKA Mary Jane Watson is Spider-Man greatest love in the comic books. MJ in the MCU is named Michelle Jones Watson she is a mixture of the original Mary Jane and another character Spider-Man dated Angelica Jones who is a mutant called Firestar. Some of people Peter dated just love Peter Parker then there are some who just in love with Spider-Man MJ is one of the few characters who love them both.
So comparison to the comics the MCU Spider-Man is very much thrown right into the world of The Avengers much earlier than his comic counterparts. Peter was only 15 in Civil War and was only Spider-Man for a few mouths until Tony recruited him to join the Avengers Civil War. Peter still 15 in this film is kind of like the protégé to Tony Stark who created his classic red and blue after all and has kind of taken Peter under his wing as a father figure. Spider-Man in the comics started much more independent commissioning his own suit, fighting low level crime etc. Peter actually had more connection to The Fantastic Four who he met in Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 #1 when Spider-Man visits the Fantastic Four in hopes of joining them but they turn him done as Peter simply wanted to get payed. Peter then continced fighting crime across New York and it wasn't until Peter started college at 18 that alot of his iconic characters were introduced like Gwen Stacy, MJ, and Norman and Harry Osborn. Peter really only got into the Avengers level stuff when he was in his early adult years so around 18 to 19 when he first fought with the Avengers. In comics like Secret War from the 1980s a massive Marvel crossover event Peter would've been in his early 20s so his comic book counterpart had a alot more years to expand and find himself before becoming apart of a larger universe. Another example would be the comic Civil War (2006) where all happens when Peter is in his early 20s as well. I'd say that the original Spider-Man movies are a better depiction of Peter Parkers early comic book years from High School to College and then we would've gotten Spider-Man fighting alongside The Avengers when he's more mature and older.
A lot of terrific points! I thought this film was the best at capturing the early years of Spider-Man. Lots of love to Tobey Maguire, but right off the bat he looked way too old to portray a high school student. Just one nitpick. 31:56 Tony says "Everyone else said I was crazy to recruit a 14 year old kid" to which Peter replies "I'm 15".
@@testfire3000 Thanks for the correction. Yeah 100% this film is by far the best at depicting the High School experience and actually casting actors who look like there teenagers, Pretty sure most actors were around 18 to 20 a big difference to 27 year old Toby. James Franco was 24 I believe and I think he fits the most as I personally knew 15/16 year olds who looked like early 20 year olds. But everyone else were looked far too old and it was sometimes impossible to tell the students apart from the teachers. Thankfully the whole High School aspect was a third of the first film so I can't imagine a whole Spider-Man trilogy set in High School with College stage actors. I personally just think those Rami films did a better job at showcasing an origin story for Spider-Man and his evolution in a universe where Spider-Man works by himself than the Tom Holland films. Tom never really got the chance to be a solo Spider-Man beyond his first few months as Spider-Man before Tony stepped in so this is kind of the aspect I much prefer in the original films.
@@GreenGoblin64 100% agree! And now that we will get some Tom Holland solo films, he is much older and so the story grew up around him, which works in my opinion. I am kind of over the casting of adults as school children. I personally know a 30 year old woman (who shall remain nameless) who was cast as a high school student in a recent streaming series/movie (I am being vague on purpose). Don't get me wrong, good for her, but they couldn't pick actual 17-18 year olds because they had to match the appearance of the lead who was also about 30-ish.
@@GreenGoblin64Spiderman in the comics got bitten and his powers at 17 going on 18. He was a senior in high school going off to college in the first Raimi movie
100% on the legal side involving the rights of Spider-Man. Sony picked up the movie rights of Spider-Man in 1999 I want to say. This gave birth to the Sony Spider-Man media we've been seeing since Spider-Man (2002) all the way to Across the Spider-Verse (2023) this year. The whole 2000s series of Marvel films (X-Men, Daredevil, Spider-Man, F4 etc.) were divided across differant studies with X-Men and F4 being owned by Fox, Hulk being owned by Universal, and of course Spider-Man being owned by Sony. This made it difficult for these IPs to cross over or reference each other as both parties would have to agree so it was never a connected universe of movies officially. But this didn't stop people from trying. A great example would be the planned cameo of Hugh Jackman returning as Wolverine in the first Spider-Man film, connecting Fox's X-Men to Sony's Spider-Man. When the MCU came around in 2008 Marvel actually tired to connect the other Marvel movies to it by having Nick Fury reference Mutants and Radioactive Bug Bits in a deleted Iron Man 1 scene, nod to X-Men and Spider-Man. They also tried to get Hugh Jackman to cameo as Wolverine in The First Avenger showcasing him alongside Captain America during WW2. Fox were releasing X-Men movies alongside the MCU so it was only nature to try to connect them together. And onto Spider-Man they actually tired to connected The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) to the MCU by hoping to add Oscorp Tower to the backdrop of The Avengers (2012) using the same Oscorp Tower from the first Amazing Spider-Man film releasing the same year. Then with Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) Marvel came to Sony with the idea of adding Avengers Tower to the New York Skyline connecting Andrew's Spider-Man to the MCU. These never happened and with Amazing Spider-Man 2 not doing so well Kevin made a deal with Sony with hopes of allowing a new Spider-Man in the MCU. And thus Tom Holland Spider-Man was born in Civil War followed by a series of Sony and Marvel Studio team up movies . If Andrew Garfield was the MCU Spider-Man then we would've had an older College Peter Parker in Civil War, closer to the comics in terms of Spider-Mans age during Civil War comic. If Jackman cameoed as Wolverine then we would most likely have alot more X-Men related cameos in future movies and who knows maybe we'd see X-Men taking part in massive crossover films with The Avengers. Pretty much the MCU would be very differant to what we see today.
Just wanted to add that while some of these rights other companies had expired and returned to Marvel or were bought like the X-Men Universe, we're unlikely to see Sony surrender the rights to Spider-Man anytime soon. They'd probably have to be desperate to make any sort of deal like that. Imagine if Disney was in a rough place at some point and had to sell off Mickey Mouse. The person that bought it would never want to get rid of it because it's basically a license to print money.
To answer your question on why Peter lives with Aunt May as the films never really explore his parents. *Mainline Continuity* Peter's parents within the Mainline Marvel Continuity (Earth-616) were spies for the Central Intelligence Agency, Richard Parker himself was recruited by Nick Fury. At the CIA Richard met Mary Fitzpatrick who would later become his wife with the two of them having a son called Peter Parker. While Peter was only an infant Richard and Mary were set undercover to infiltrate an Algerian based spy ring under the control of Red Skull who later discovered the Richard and Mary were double agents. Red Skull had them both killed in a place crash above the sea while Peter stayed at Uncle Ben and Aunt Mays house who later adopted Peter as there own and raised him from childhood. *Ultimate Universe* The Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610) a modernized and re-imagined new Continuity starting with Ultimate Spider-Man set in the year 2000 featuring a 15 year old Peter Parker. in the Ultimate Universe Richard Parker was a Doctor who excelled in bio-engineering studies. He then married fellow scientist Mary Fitzpatrick and she got pregnant with Parker Parker. During the time Mary was pregnant Nick Fury gathered a think tank of bio-engineers with hopes of recreating the Super-Soldier Serum that was used to create Captain America over six decades before this new S.H.I.E.L.D funded project. Richard Parker was one of the chosen bio-engineers along with Hank Pym the original Antman, Franklin Storm the father of Susan and Johnny Storm of the future Fantastic Four and finally Bruce Banner who of course would become The Hulk. Peter Parker was born not long into this project but during one of the stages of the project both Richard and Mary would be heavily wounded when Bruce Banner self-experimented on himself by injecting himself with a failed version of the Super-Soldier Serum turning him into the Hulk. Both recovered and when Peter was still young Richard started working on something called Project Venom along with his friend Eddie Brock Senior. But the two were not able to finish the project seeking partnership and resources they went to Trask Enterprises for help (Trask is heavily connected to The X-Men) and this worked but Richard regretted this team up as Trask would interfere with the project and even take the project away from them leading to Peter, Eddie and Mary fighting over rights to the project in Court. In the end Trask had their plane sabotaged resulting in their death. And just like the Mainline Continuity Peter was raised by Ben and May Parker and would later become Spider-Man with Project Venom coming back up again when Peter discovered the project. *MCU* For the MCU we have zero information about Peter's Parents, even Uncle Ben is kind of overlooked as we never got an origin story for this Spider-Man. The MCU is like a mix of Earth-616 and the Ultimate Universe so it could be a mix of both of these origins. Shouldn't matter too much though as his parents are rarely explored. In the Spider-Man PS4 game set within it's own universe Peter mentions that his parents were agents and that he knew but I can't think of any other media where his parents are explored.
20:25 "Why are we removing the tracker from your suit?" Yeah. And if you're gonna do _that,_ don't presume there's only _one._ There could be _several._ And while you're at it, check the _other_ clothes you tend to wear. They _all_ might have tracking devices.
Just letting you know that guy who called himself Shocker in the beginning was another Spider-Man villain ‘technically’ though they decided to just waste him in half a second lmao.
Yes, you are correct in assuming that the previous Spider-Man movies are not MCU related. However, I would highly recommend working them in your watch schedule before watching the 3rd MCU Spider-Man movie. Also, it's good to see the differences between the different iterations. You know, I actually just saw an article about spiders migrating across the U.S. by "flying." They're not actually flying but really using their webs to glide/float. Very interesting. Anyway, I loved your reaction and I'm glad you enjoyed Spider-Man: Homecoming 🕷🕸
Peter is a certified genius. Recall what Tony said about his web material in Civil War. The MCU version of Adrian Toomes (The Vulture; which is appropriate in that he's scavenging "dead" alien tech) is not well understood. He has a strong sense of right & wrong; it's just not aligned with the norm. He's _very_ dedicated to his family. His criminal career is to support his wife & daughter. When he discovers Peter is Spider-Man, he cuts him a break since Peter saved his daughter's life. He owed Peter for that. Ditto for the final scene. Peter saved _his_ life, so is in debt to Spider-Man. That's why he denied knowing who Spidey was. The comic original Flash was a track & football jock, hence the nickname. The irony is that he laughs at Peter but practically worships Spider-Man. Thor: Ragnarok is in fact hilarious, with tragic spots. You will enjoy.
Like others have pointed out I do highly recommend checking out the older Spider-Man movies if you want a deeper look into the origins of Spider-Man as Homecoming very much skips this and we don't get much insight into the past of Spider-Man beyond he was bitten by spider. There's also a lack of some very important Spider-Man characters but hopefully they'll get introduced during the next Spider-Man trilogy where Peter is hopefully in College. You'll never know this from the movies but characters like MJ were not introduced until Peter started College but alot of media kind of push them into the High School setting as there just too iconic. In this film we do see Vulture who is very much the main villian. But alot of the people on his crew are Spider-Man villains just without there iconic outfits. The Shocker for example is an iconic Spider-Man villain, The tech guy here at 3:30 is the Tinkerer a villain who makes items and equipment for other villains. And finally at 46:30 this guy is the Scorpion. So we do see alot of Spider-Man villains there just kind of pre supervillain and come across as more goons in this film.
@@maxducoudray Yeah she was pretty much a background character, a girl Peter Parker never really noticed until Aunt May introduced him to Mary Jane after he left High School. Few comic issues before this I'm pretty sure a comic featured Betty and Liz reaction to seeing MJ but her face was covered. Both descripted her as looking like a movie star, of course MJ was mentioned a few times by Aunt May as someone Peter has to meet.
also keep in the mind he MCU is a very different universe from the comics. The MCU's Michelle Jones isn't Mary Jane Watson, she's a different MJ, just like Ned isn't Harry Osborn...in the MCU Peter has a different love interest and different best friend.
28:23 There aren't any spiders with wings, but plenty of types are capable of using lengths of web to catch the wind and be carried aloft as a means of easily travelling long distances.
Actually, they did include an origin story in Civil War; it was just very short. "When you have the abilities I do, and the bad guys act because you don't stop them, it's on you." (excuse the butchered quote) Clearly Peter feels guilty about Uncle Ben's death, and his inactivity which allowed it to happen.
A spider could conceivably carry 173 times its body weight. Since Peter was bitten by a radioactive spider and was given the agility and proportionate strength of an arachnid (spider) from that bite, you can see how Peter would have super strength.
Which is the funny thing about the car scene, with his speed, reflexes and strength he could disarm the guy and break his arm before he even blinked but he is too much of a kid to even think of that and he just froze in the moment. He was never in any danger in the car.
Fun facts: Peter's science teacher is the intern that Bruce Banner bribed with a pizza to get access to the college computer lab. It's the same actor playing the same character. The high school principal is related to one of Captain America's Howling Commandos from Captain America: the first Avenger. Marvel has the same actor playing both roles. And the Flash is a DC character, but back when Spider-Man was created Flash was a pretty common nickname. You usually got that nickname for either quick thinking or having fast reflexes. That's how Flash Gordon got his name (and that Flash isn't even Marvel or DC) And finally this movie was shot as an homage to the John Hughes high school movies from the Eighties. So if you liked this movie, you might like those films. If you haven't seen them, that is.
Never heard of a flying spider. But I’ve heard of floating ones. Some spider breeds [or just one], when they are hatched, will spin a tiny parachute like web. They will “catch” the wind with it and float away. I don’t think they use it alter that. Others will use them to get places as adults whenever they feel the need.
Great reaction, as always 😉. Spider-Man was definitely one of my all-time favorite superheroes growing up. I used to read a bunch of the Spider-Man comic books (I wish I kept them, oh well). Anyway, I also wanted to say I really like the new setup, especially that blue background. Very Zen-like.
The superhero Flash is DC, the bully Flash Thompson is MARVEL, he later befriends Peter, goes to war, matures and becomes Agent Venom in The Comics, not to be confused with OG Venom of which there were three: Eddie Brock, Angelo Fortunato(And yes, his name being Latin for "Fortunate angel" was very much a deliberate bit of dramatic irony on the writers` parts as he was the shortest lived Venom by far as well as the most irredeemable as the son of a mob boss) and Mac Gargan/Scorpion.
7:11 "It's not a hug. I'm just grabbin' the door, for you." 😏 _Right._ The door _right beside_ him that there's no possible way he can reach _himself._
To put into perspective how strong Spider Man is: During the movie, when the rubble from the building fell on Peter. The rubble itself is estimated to have weighed around 163 tons, which is equivalent to 326,000 pounds. Just 1 of those tons is 2000 pounds. Somehow Peter was able to survive this and woke up without any fatal injuries. Not only that, but he also managed to lift up those two giant cinder blocks with two giant industrial fans on top of them and pushed them completely off of him. The weight that he would have to lift is estimated to be around 9.5 tons, or 19,000 pounds. The most weight that a regular human has ever did for an overhead press is 602 pounds. Based on the movies, the most that Captain America was able to overhead press is 800 pounds. This would mean that Spider Man is 23.75 times stronger than Captain America. This is one of the reasons why Tony Stark recruited him for the battle in Captain America Civil War and why Tony wanted to make him an Avenger. Tony doesn't just admire Peter for his strength, but also for his heart. This is why Spider Man is argued to be one of the strongest super heroes in terms of sheer strength and will power.
Hey Cristy! How's it going? So yes Flash is a part of the DC universe along with Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonderwoman, etc. It would be cool if you watched them at some point. As some have said, it is advisable to watch the other 5 Spiderman films before say the next 6 or 7 more Marvel films. Spiderman is so strong because he was bitten by a Radioactive spider, it wasn't just a "normal" spider. According to the Marvel database Spiderman can lift 10 tons, Captain America can lift 1200 lbs, The Hulk is up there past 100 tons. Love your reactions! Have a great weekend! 😊
Toomes character is Vulture. Spidey is super strong. In the comics, Doc Ock punches Scorpion’s jaw off while his mind is switched with Peter and he realizes Peter is holding back all the time.
There are different types of heroes cristy ...u have the superheroes who don't like to kill but apprehend or subdue by any means but if the villian backs them to a corner they may have no choice but to take them out but then u have antiheroes like punisher daredevil blade and Deadpool that have no problem killing bad guys ....i would also check them out
32:38 "Why... does he live... with his aunt... May? Why doesn't he live with his _parents?"_ Every superhero has to have a traumatic _loss_ in their backstory. Spiderman's is that his aunt is the only family he has _left._
26:30 Fun Fact: This teacher even though he didn't have a name at the time, was in "The Incredible Hulk" as the same guy. He was one of the students at the university when Bruce Banner delivered the pizzas.
Just to answer your question, Flash in this movie is not the superhero the Flash. He is from an entirely different comic book company called DC Comics. Hope that helps:)
The scene where Peter lifts the rubble is from a story arc called "If This Be My Destiny" (Amazing Spider-Man 31-33). Reader's Digest version: Peter is starting college, dealing with a new villain, and Aunt May is dealing with a life-threatening disease. The villain captures May and trespass traps Spider-Man under tons of rubble. He starts thinking about Msy, Uncle Ben, and his friends, which gives him the strength to lift the pile off of him. This is the first proof of his strength.
great reaction :) and you should really concider to watch the 3 tobeys sm movies and both of andrews films at least before you watch Spider-Man: No Way Home in the future :D
This Spider Man is still inexperienced, but since he tends to pull his punches, even his enemies usually don't realize that he could rip their heads right off if he wanted to. Thor, Hulk, and Namor are stronger than him, but few others are.
Yes he's still very young and inexperienced in the MCU and yes he pulls his punches a lot. Spider-Man has historically fought mostly street-level opponents- normal human muggers, bank robbers etc. And many of his regular villains aren't overly powerful, they're fairly low-level superhuman, scientists whose experiments went wrong or someone with a piece of advanced tech. So Spider-Man is usually holding back to avoid accidentally killing someone. However, Spider-Man isn't anywhere close to being the strongest Marvel character. LOTS of other Marvel characters are stronger than him. Back in the 1963 there were only 4 other characters stronger than Spider-Man... Thor, Hulk, Namor and the Thing. And many people mistakenly believe that's still true today. But it's not... Spider-Man hasn't been borderline top 5 in strength since the 1960s. Over the past 6 decades Marvel has introduced many heroes and villains physically stronger than him. Characters like Hercules, Wonder Man, Doc Samson, Vision, Valkyrie, Black Bolt, Thundra, She-Hulk, Colossus, Sasquatch, Gilgamesh, Ikaris, Hyperion, Beta Ray Bill etc. Even the average Asgardian (not even heroes like Heimdall, Valkyrie, Sif and the Warriors 3 but the average citizen) is over twice as strong as Spider-Man. Spidey is much stronger than he looks, and because he mostly fights street-level foes, people don't realize how powerful he is. They think of him as being around the same power level as other street level heroes, but he's not. He has strength, speed and agility way above super-soldiers like Cap and Bucky. Plus he's got his spider-sense and webs, and he's a science genius, especially in chemistry (he created the formula for his web fluid). But on pure strength while he's legit superhuman, he's not top tier.
Yes ! I love that you called out the Ramones, Cristy. They are my favorite band and there are a lot of parallels between them and Spider Man, which is why they often reference each other (the Ramones covered the classic Spider Man theme song in 1995, and Andrew Garfield Spider Man had a Ramones poster in his room). Like Spider Man, the Ramones are from Queens, NY. And like Spider Man, they were underdogs. A group of misfits who never had a proper top 40 hit, had a lot of personal problems, but they kept on trying their best. Just like Spidey. They used humor to deal with the fact that they were outcasts, just like Spider Man with his quips. Lovable losers always trying their best. Your friendly neighborhood punk rockers. Hey ho! Let's go!
Eugene "Flash" Thompson is just a school mate of Peter and a weak Bully. In the Comics he is also a school mate of Peter and a bully, but actually becomes "Agent Venom". A result of a S.H.I.E.L.D. Program with a venom symbiote to save Flashs life. He also has similar power than Spiderman. So question if they make him a main character later in the MCU or if it is just a little neat nerd detail. Shield is not a thing anymore. So who knows.
18:14 "Are there _flying_ spiders... in real life? Like actual spiders... that fly... or have wings?" That have _wings?_ No. That would be _way_ too great a variation from their _typical_ morphology. There are spiders that _jump._ In fact, there are spiders that jump pretty great _distances._ They'll freak you _out._ 🤔 I seem to recall, though, I once heard about spiders that ride _air_ currents on apparatuses they make with their _webbing._ They sound pretty freaky, _too._
The character in question is call Eugene “Flash” Thompson, call the Flash in the comics because he’s fast in football. Not to be confused with with DC The Flash, who’s power is speed similar to Quicksilver.
Michelle (MJ) seems to be a modern adaptation of Mary Jane (MJ) one of Spiderman's original love interests. Mary Jane is an aspiring actress and basically the super popular girl everyone likes. Where as this new MJ seems much more the dark emo, too cool to be cool kinda character.. Great reaction, congrats on the new "studio" and as always can't wait for your next reaction! 😊
Some fans make blanket statements like "Spider-Man is one of the most powerful superheroes of all" which isn't really true. In a certain context it is, but people frequently forget or simply don't know the context. In terms of raw power Spider-Man has never been a powerhouse on the level of Thor, Hulk, Juggernaut, Sentry, Silver Surfer etc. But he's much stronger than people expect given his small/skinny frame. He just looks scrawny, especially as a teenager. But Spidey is legit superhuman, in the movies he's 3-5 times stronger than brawny super-soldier types like Captain America and Bucky. In the comics he's over 20X stronger. And since he mostly fights street-level criminals like regular muggers/robbers and scientists whose experiments got out of control, Spider-Man is always pulling his punches to avoid accidentally killing someone. In the early 1960s Stan Lee said Spider-Man was actually one of Marvel's strongest characters- which was true at the time. Back then, there weren't many superheroes yet. Spider-Man was the 6th-strongest one after Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Namor and The Thing. But that was 60 years ago... since then, Marvel has introduced dozens and dozens of character who were physically way stronger than Spider-Man. Even by the 1980s Spider-Man was no longer among Marvel's 20 physically strongest characters, too many other big hitters had been introduced. But Spider-Man was (and still is) one of the most formidable superheroes, with a unique combination of abilities few characters can match. For around 50 years Spider-Man's official strength (according to Marvel) was 10 ton class, meaning he could lift that much overhead. But he frequently lifted more in crisis situations when his adrenaline was flowing. That's what Spider-Man became known for- being the guy who could exceed his limits when the stakes were high and chips were down. In addition to his strength, Spider-Man has incredible speed and agility. His Spider-sense alerts him to danger in advance, making it almost impossible for opponents to hit him. Plus he's got his webs and ability to stick to walls. He's just the total package- lots of characters are stronger but they're much slower and less agile. Characters who are faster than Spidey have only a fraction of his strength. Plus Peter Parker is a genius- especially when it comes to chemistry. He's one of Marvel's 10 smartest characters. All of those things combined are why Spider-Man is so hard to beat.
Since this is technically third stand alone Spider-Man movie and his origin was pretty well known by most comic book and movie fans by this point, they never really show how Peter got bitten by the radioactive spider and the early days of his career as everyone's favorite web head. I won't say much more, but you really should check out the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield movies at some point... maybe after Infinity War and Endgame. Just a suggestion.
First The Flash is a super hero from D.C. comics like Superman and Batman. Also I don't worry if you do not know everything about comic books, because the MCU doesn't follow the comic books very strictly.. Spider-Man has many of the attributes of a spider, which can lift things more than 170 times its weight. If you extend that to Spider-Man he should be able to lift about14 tons. My favorite thing from this movie is the main villain is Michael Keaton, who also played Batman in 1989. I still enjoy your reactions. Thank you for more fun.
The superhero "The Flash" is owned by DC Comics. So, unless there is a huge crossover event sometime in the future, which will definitely be promoted and advertised to the point you wouldn't be able to avoid it short of living in a cave, you will not be seeing "The Flash" in a Marvel movie. Other DC superheroes are Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aqua Man, Green Lantern, any superhero that has had a show on the CW and many others. But those are the main ones. Like Marvel, DC has been doing superhero comics for decades and have a huge library of lesser known heroes at their disposal (kind of like how Marvel introduced the Guardians of the Galaxy into the MCU).
8:24 "Is he the actual _Flash?_ The _superhero?"_ 😳 Oh, goodness, Cristy. No. They're not even in the same _comic_ universe. Spiderman is _Marvel._ Flash is _DC._
The agreement with Sony was all because of the relationship between Kevin Fegie at Marvel and Amy Pascal at Sony. They saw the benefit of incorporating Spiderman into the MCU so Disney and Sony agreed on certain uses for the character. Sony is still producing Spiderman content to keep the rights for making Spiderman movies but sooner or later the rights will go back to Marvel or be bought out by someone again. So for now it is just an agreement to mutually benefit. The Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield are only Sony produced but you should watching them before you finish the MCU Spiderman movies or at least get an idea of what happens in them. The stories end up helping the MCU Spiderman make sense in the end. The Tom Holland Spiderman story is not like the comics at all. In the comics Spiderman hates Tony Stark most of the time. Tony Stark is a major jerk in the comics but they went a different direction in the MCU. RDJ and Favreau had creative control over the Stark character and took it in a different direction. This completely changed how Spiderman is in the MCU as compared to the comic history. Yes Spiderman is one of the most powerful comic characters in Marvel but he holds back. He is not on the level of Hulk in the comics but initially he could stand toe to toe with Hulk until they went crazy with the Hulk power levels in the 1990s.
Not only do the original Spider-Man (Sony) pictures matter to the MCU, so do the X-Men and the Fantastic Four (the latter only to get an idea of who they are) AND the Netflix Daredevil (now Disney+). That's only 100's of hours of film Cristy.
If I were to encounter a Spider-Man villain, the one I wouldn’t want to experience is probably the Green Goblin. Who’s the scariest Marvel villain in your opinion?
Cristy, I'm sure your ?s about Peter's/Spiderman's origin will be answered in the comments section which is unfortunate because this movie bypassed the retelling of Spidey's origin because it was so well known. The Tobey Maguire Spiderman movies covered that pretty well (though they did take some liberties from the comics) and I highly recommend you do at least the first 2 of those 3 films to get a really good feel for the character. Michael Keaton, the actor who played Toomes/The Vulture (Bad Falcon HA!) is very well known for playing Batman and Beetlegeuse in films, also movies you should check out. Hey, just when I was going to start calling you the WOW Gal you switch to OMG! Must be the new climate in Florida ☀
The biggest reason Spider-Man is so powerful is because of his Spider Sense. His ability to sense danger just before it happens and how to safely maneuver around it.
Cristy - listen to the comments. Start making your way through the first Spider-Man series asap (i.e. the Tobey Maguire series) as you're continuing your way through the MCU and you'll get a way better appreciation of Peter's backstory, and then watch the Amazing Spider-Man (i.e. Andrew Garfield) movies, which was a reboot. You have plenty of time, just make sure you get through them before you get to the third MCU Spider-Man movie (No Way Home), which comes a few movies after Avengers: Endgame. 👍🏼
If it was Peter Parker vs. Bucky, or Cap in an arm wrestling match, my money's on Parker. A one on one fight, WITHOUT his spider sense Cap and Bucky just because they know how to fight well.
Great job understanding Spidey film drama! :-) I would recommend watching the Spider-Man and Fantastic Four non-MCU film. It gives proper context regarding those characters. ‘Nuff Said.
It’s not that Spider-Man is “the most powerful”. That would better describe some other characters in the MCU. It’s just that Spidey is super strong (he can lift around 10 tons) nowhere near as much as Hulk and Thor, though. And his agility, speed and spider-sense make him so formidable in a fight.
This movie is actually only about 4 to 5 years after the first avengers. The first avengers is 2012 and this is just a couple of months after civil war which was 2016. Whoever was in charge of making this movie screwed up the timeline big time
Although you're right about the two other Spiderman series of films (5 films) not being in the MCU, you nevertheless HAVE to start watching them (if you haven't seen them) in parallel with the next few films (maybe alternate between the 5 films and the MCU movies for a while) for reasons I won't disclose to you right now. Trust us, it will be worth it. :)
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Meh. The need to see them is overstated. That being said, it’s great for channel views so a good idea in that respect.
@@maxducoudray. Duh! Spoiler alert⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
What Daniel is talking about is the Maguire and Garfield Spider-Man’s in “No Way Home”. That’s why they are required prerequisites. Not watching them wound be like watching a parody movie like “Scary Movie” without first watching “Scream”, “I Know What You Did Last Summer” etc…..! You don’t getting any of the jokes and references.
I am normally the guy to step on suggestions like this immediately, but in this case watching all five of the Sony films is a good idea, to really appreciate No Way Home.
@@maxducoudray I'm with you on this one. The performances sell the impact in a great way without needing to do extra homework.
That line were Tony asks May what she's wearing is actually improvised and his laugh is genuine
Vulture was actually Peter's "first" Supervillain appearing in *Amazing Spider-Man #2* (February, 1963) the 2nd Spider-Man comic if you don't count Amazing Fantasy #15 the first appearance of Spider-Man. Spider-Man's first villain was Chameleon who overtime has become a massive villain but at the time he wouldn't of been classed as a Supervillain so that's why Vulture is seen as his first. So them using Vulture as Peter's first real MCU villain is a fun nod back to the comics.
Vulture was also meant to be the villain in the cancelled Spider-Man 4 starring Tobey Maguire. Would've been a very dark storyline fitting with this more mature and older Spider-Man in his early 20s but of course the film was cancelled and we had to wait 9 years to see Vulture in live action.
Yes. And there were other villains here. The Shocker is a minor recurring Spiderman villain with a weapon that makes a vibration "shockwave" that can be used to knock people out and break through bank vault doors, etc. The techie guy working for Toomes was The Tinkerer (or "The Terrible Tinkerer") who makes various gadgets to commit crimes with - and he's one of the earliest Spiderman villains. Also that other guy, Mac Gargan, the one we see talking to Toomes in prison at the end, with a tattoo of a scorpion, will presumably eventually become The Scorpion, another classic Spiderman villain, with powers similar to Spiderman, but, you know, a scorpion instead of a spider. And the guy Spidey "interrogates" is Aaron Davis, who is The Prowler in the main comic-book universe, but might not be in the MCU. Remember, these are just things from the comics, any of which might be very different in the MCU. And Mr, Delmar, the deli owner, eventually becomes one of the most powerful supervillains ever: The Deli Owner! I'm pretty sure I made that last one up.
Peter lives with his aunt because his parents died when he was young. That's the short answer anyway, but the story of Peter's parents gets a lot more complicated and convoluted than that in the comics. I doubt the movies will ever address his parents' history though, so it's enough to just know that they died.
The villain's name is The Vulture, but the only time they use the name in the movie is at the end when Spidey's note refers to him as the Vulture guy.
Hello, remember in Iron Man 2 when a little kid wearing a mask got in front of the robots? That was Peter. The actual “years later” is 4 not 8. So, The A enters takes place 2012, Homecoming 2016.
So in term of his strength, this actually makes more sense than some of the other stuff. In this movie we see Peter lift a collapsed building that had fallen on him (which is a nod to a very iconic panel moment in the comics). If you can do that, then if you were to swing full on and punch someone, you could seriously injure or even potentially kill them. So he pulls his punches. They'll introduce something later that combined with all that makes him probably one of the strongest human characters in Marvel.
And no, Flash is not The Flash. That hero is DC. This Flash is Flash Thompson. In the comics he started off as a bully of Peter.
Spider-Man can lift 10 tons (Remember when Bucky punched him with the metal arm, Peter caught it easily), is very smart (he invented his webbing and the web shooters), and has a “spidey sense” that alerts him to danger. It’s very difficult to fight him when he’s tuned into his senses.
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Lol my girlfriend always asks the same question, “why do the good guys always save the bad guys?” That’s what makes them good!
FLASH here is just a nickname for the school bully. He's in the comic books as one of the re-occurring characters in Perter Parker's school life. THE FLASH is a superhero from the DC universe that runs really fast.
He is agent venom too (Flash Thompson)
Oh cool ok thanks for letting me know!!!
I wouldn’t say that Spider-Man is the most powerful superhero but he’s a lot stronger than casual viewers give him credit for. In terms of pure physical strength Spider-Man is a lot stronger than Captain America, also it’s important to realize that he pulls his punches because he doesn’t want to kill anyone. At this moment the only thing that Spider-Man really lacks is experience once he gets older he’ll be much more powerful and skilled
Also Peter in the comics is probably 7th most intelligent human being in the Marvel universe. Valeria Richards, Reed Richards, Victor Von Doom, Hank Pym, Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, then Peter in that order probably.
Prince T'Challa/The Black Panther is also included in that list somewhere as well as Hank McCoy/The Beast from the X-Men is also included too.
MJ AKA Mary Jane Watson is Spider-Man greatest love in the comic books. MJ in the MCU is named Michelle Jones Watson she is a mixture of the original Mary Jane and another character Spider-Man dated Angelica Jones who is a mutant called Firestar. Some of people Peter dated just love Peter Parker then there are some who just in love with Spider-Man MJ is one of the few characters who love them both.
Do you have any other questions about Spider-Man or the MCU just asked. I try to give you some information without spoiling anything.
7:10 "thats not a hug, im just grabbing the door for you " ; remember that line......
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So comparison to the comics the MCU Spider-Man is very much thrown right into the world of The Avengers much earlier than his comic counterparts. Peter was only 15 in Civil War and was only Spider-Man for a few mouths until Tony recruited him to join the Avengers Civil War. Peter still 15 in this film is kind of like the protégé to Tony Stark who created his classic red and blue after all and has kind of taken Peter under his wing as a father figure.
Spider-Man in the comics started much more independent commissioning his own suit, fighting low level crime etc. Peter actually had more connection to The Fantastic Four who he met in Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 #1 when Spider-Man visits the Fantastic Four in hopes of joining them but they turn him done as Peter simply wanted to get payed. Peter then continced fighting crime across New York and it wasn't until Peter started college at 18 that alot of his iconic characters were introduced like Gwen Stacy, MJ, and Norman and Harry Osborn.
Peter really only got into the Avengers level stuff when he was in his early adult years so around 18 to 19 when he first fought with the Avengers. In comics like Secret War from the 1980s a massive Marvel crossover event Peter would've been in his early 20s so his comic book counterpart had a alot more years to expand and find himself before becoming apart of a larger universe. Another example would be the comic Civil War (2006) where all happens when Peter is in his early 20s as well.
I'd say that the original Spider-Man movies are a better depiction of Peter Parkers early comic book years from High School to College and then we would've gotten Spider-Man fighting alongside The Avengers when he's more mature and older.
A lot of terrific points! I thought this film was the best at capturing the early years of Spider-Man. Lots of love to Tobey Maguire, but right off the bat he looked way too old to portray a high school student.
Just one nitpick. 31:56 Tony says "Everyone else said I was crazy to recruit a 14 year old kid" to which Peter replies "I'm 15".
@@testfire3000 Thanks for the correction. Yeah 100% this film is by far the best at depicting the High School experience and actually casting actors who look like there teenagers, Pretty sure most actors were around 18 to 20 a big difference to 27 year old Toby. James Franco was 24 I believe and I think he fits the most as I personally knew 15/16 year olds who looked like early 20 year olds. But everyone else were looked far too old and it was sometimes impossible to tell the students apart from the teachers. Thankfully the whole High School aspect was a third of the first film so I can't imagine a whole Spider-Man trilogy set in High School with College stage actors.
I personally just think those Rami films did a better job at showcasing an origin story for Spider-Man and his evolution in a universe where Spider-Man works by himself than the Tom Holland films. Tom never really got the chance to be a solo Spider-Man beyond his first few months as Spider-Man before Tony stepped in so this is kind of the aspect I much prefer in the original films.
@@GreenGoblin64 100% agree! And now that we will get some Tom Holland solo films, he is much older and so the story grew up around him, which works in my opinion.
I am kind of over the casting of adults as school children. I personally know a 30 year old woman (who shall remain nameless) who was cast as a high school student in a recent streaming series/movie (I am being vague on purpose). Don't get me wrong, good for her, but they couldn't pick actual 17-18 year olds because they had to match the appearance of the lead who was also about 30-ish.
@@GreenGoblin64Spiderman in the comics got bitten and his powers at 17 going on 18. He was a senior in high school going off to college in the first Raimi movie
100% on the legal side involving the rights of Spider-Man. Sony picked up the movie rights of Spider-Man in 1999 I want to say. This gave birth to the Sony Spider-Man media we've been seeing since Spider-Man (2002) all the way to Across the Spider-Verse (2023) this year. The whole 2000s series of Marvel films (X-Men, Daredevil, Spider-Man, F4 etc.) were divided across differant studies with X-Men and F4 being owned by Fox, Hulk being owned by Universal, and of course Spider-Man being owned by Sony. This made it difficult for these IPs to cross over or reference each other as both parties would have to agree so it was never a connected universe of movies officially.
But this didn't stop people from trying. A great example would be the planned cameo of Hugh Jackman returning as Wolverine in the first Spider-Man film, connecting Fox's X-Men to Sony's Spider-Man. When the MCU came around in 2008 Marvel actually tired to connect the other Marvel movies to it by having Nick Fury reference Mutants and Radioactive Bug Bits in a deleted Iron Man 1 scene, nod to X-Men and Spider-Man. They also tried to get Hugh Jackman to cameo as Wolverine in The First Avenger showcasing him alongside Captain America during WW2. Fox were releasing X-Men movies alongside the MCU so it was only nature to try to connect them together.
And onto Spider-Man they actually tired to connected The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) to the MCU by hoping to add Oscorp Tower to the backdrop of The Avengers (2012) using the same Oscorp Tower from the first Amazing Spider-Man film releasing the same year. Then with Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) Marvel came to Sony with the idea of adding Avengers Tower to the New York Skyline connecting Andrew's Spider-Man to the MCU. These never happened and with Amazing Spider-Man 2 not doing so well Kevin made a deal with Sony with hopes of allowing a new Spider-Man in the MCU. And thus Tom Holland Spider-Man was born in Civil War followed by a series of Sony and Marvel Studio team up movies .
If Andrew Garfield was the MCU Spider-Man then we would've had an older College Peter Parker in Civil War, closer to the comics in terms of Spider-Mans age during Civil War comic. If Jackman cameoed as Wolverine then we would most likely have alot more X-Men related cameos in future movies and who knows maybe we'd see X-Men taking part in massive crossover films with The Avengers. Pretty much the MCU would be very differant to what we see today.
Just wanted to add that while some of these rights other companies had expired and returned to Marvel or were bought like the X-Men Universe, we're unlikely to see Sony surrender the rights to Spider-Man anytime soon. They'd probably have to be desperate to make any sort of deal like that.
Imagine if Disney was in a rough place at some point and had to sell off Mickey Mouse. The person that bought it would never want to get rid of it because it's basically a license to print money.
To answer your question on why Peter lives with Aunt May as the films never really explore his parents.
*Mainline Continuity*
Peter's parents within the Mainline Marvel Continuity (Earth-616) were spies for the Central Intelligence Agency, Richard Parker himself was recruited by Nick Fury. At the CIA Richard met Mary Fitzpatrick who would later become his wife with the two of them having a son called Peter Parker.
While Peter was only an infant Richard and Mary were set undercover to infiltrate an Algerian based spy ring under the control of Red Skull who later discovered the Richard and Mary were double agents. Red Skull had them both killed in a place crash above the sea while Peter stayed at Uncle Ben and Aunt Mays house who later adopted Peter as there own and raised him from childhood.
*Ultimate Universe*
The Ultimate Universe (Earth-1610) a modernized and re-imagined new Continuity starting with Ultimate Spider-Man set in the year 2000 featuring a 15 year old Peter Parker. in the Ultimate Universe Richard Parker was a Doctor who excelled in bio-engineering studies. He then married fellow scientist Mary Fitzpatrick and she got pregnant with Parker Parker.
During the time Mary was pregnant Nick Fury gathered a think tank of bio-engineers with hopes of recreating the Super-Soldier Serum that was used to create Captain America over six decades before this new S.H.I.E.L.D funded project. Richard Parker was one of the chosen bio-engineers along with Hank Pym the original Antman, Franklin Storm the father of Susan and Johnny Storm of the future Fantastic Four and finally Bruce Banner who of course would become The Hulk.
Peter Parker was born not long into this project but during one of the stages of the project both Richard and Mary would be heavily wounded when Bruce Banner self-experimented on himself by injecting himself with a failed version of the Super-Soldier Serum turning him into the Hulk.
Both recovered and when Peter was still young Richard started working on something called Project Venom along with his friend Eddie Brock Senior. But the two were not able to finish the project seeking partnership and resources they went to Trask Enterprises for help (Trask is heavily connected to The X-Men) and this worked but Richard regretted this team up as Trask would interfere with the project and even take the project away from them leading to Peter, Eddie and Mary fighting over rights to the project in Court. In the end Trask had their plane sabotaged resulting in their death. And just like the Mainline Continuity Peter was raised by Ben and May Parker and would later become Spider-Man with Project Venom coming back up again when Peter discovered the project.
*MCU*
For the MCU we have zero information about Peter's Parents, even Uncle Ben is kind of overlooked as we never got an origin story for this Spider-Man. The MCU is like a mix of Earth-616 and the Ultimate Universe so it could be a mix of both of these origins. Shouldn't matter too much though as his parents are rarely explored. In the Spider-Man PS4 game set within it's own universe Peter mentions that his parents were agents and that he knew but I can't think of any other media where his parents are explored.
I hope they never explain his parents, because they don't need to. I'm personally not a fan of either backstories.
20:25 "Why are we removing the tracker from your suit?"
Yeah. And if you're gonna do _that,_ don't presume there's only _one._ There could be _several._ And while you're at it, check the _other_ clothes you tend to wear. They _all_ might have tracking devices.
Just letting you know that guy who called himself Shocker in the beginning was another Spider-Man villain ‘technically’ though they decided to just waste him in half a second lmao.
Yes, you are correct in assuming that the previous Spider-Man movies are not MCU related. However, I would highly recommend working them in your watch schedule before watching the 3rd MCU Spider-Man movie. Also, it's good to see the differences between the different iterations. You know, I actually just saw an article about spiders migrating across the U.S. by "flying." They're not actually flying but really using their webs to glide/float. Very interesting. Anyway, I loved your reaction and I'm glad you enjoyed Spider-Man: Homecoming 🕷🕸
Peter is a certified genius. Recall what Tony said about his web material in Civil War.
The MCU version of Adrian Toomes (The Vulture; which is appropriate in that he's scavenging "dead" alien tech) is not well understood. He has a strong sense of right & wrong; it's just not aligned with the norm. He's _very_ dedicated to his family. His criminal career is to support his wife & daughter. When he discovers Peter is Spider-Man, he cuts him a break since Peter saved his daughter's life. He owed Peter for that. Ditto for the final scene. Peter saved _his_ life, so is in debt to Spider-Man. That's why he denied knowing who Spidey was.
The comic original Flash was a track & football jock, hence the nickname. The irony is that he laughs at Peter but practically worships Spider-Man.
Thor: Ragnarok is in fact hilarious, with tragic spots. You will enjoy.
What I love about this reaction is her Spanish 😁. The pellejitos part got me 🤣
Like others have pointed out I do highly recommend checking out the older Spider-Man movies if you want a deeper look into the origins of Spider-Man as Homecoming very much skips this and we don't get much insight into the past of Spider-Man beyond he was bitten by spider. There's also a lack of some very important Spider-Man characters but hopefully they'll get introduced during the next Spider-Man trilogy where Peter is hopefully in College. You'll never know this from the movies but characters like MJ were not introduced until Peter started College but alot of media kind of push them into the High School setting as there just too iconic.
In this film we do see Vulture who is very much the main villian. But alot of the people on his crew are Spider-Man villains just without there iconic outfits. The Shocker for example is an iconic Spider-Man villain, The tech guy here at 3:30 is the Tinkerer a villain who makes items and equipment for other villains. And finally at 46:30 this guy is the Scorpion. So we do see alot of Spider-Man villains there just kind of pre supervillain and come across as more goons in this film.
That's their potential beginning! That's also why it's a great idea to see the other films and Spidey's origin!
Technically, Mary Jane first appears in Spider-Man 25, when Peter is still at Midtown High School.
@@maxducoudray Yeah she was pretty much a background character, a girl Peter Parker never really noticed until Aunt May introduced him to Mary Jane after he left High School. Few comic issues before this I'm pretty sure a comic featured Betty and Liz reaction to seeing MJ but her face was covered. Both descripted her as looking like a movie star, of course MJ was mentioned a few times by Aunt May as someone Peter has to meet.
also keep in the mind he MCU is a very different universe from the comics. The MCU's Michelle Jones isn't Mary Jane Watson, she's a different MJ, just like Ned isn't Harry Osborn...in the MCU Peter has a different love interest and different best friend.
28:23 There aren't any spiders with wings, but plenty of types are capable of using lengths of web to catch the wind and be carried aloft as a means of easily travelling long distances.
One reason they didn't do the 'origin' is that everyone would have known it from the Maguire / Garfield films and comics.
Actually, they did include an origin story in Civil War; it was just very short. "When you have the abilities I do, and the bad guys act because you don't stop them, it's on you." (excuse the butchered quote) Clearly Peter feels guilty about Uncle Ben's death, and his inactivity which allowed it to happen.
Indeed - but you only know what that refers to if you alraedy know ... @@Caseytify
A spider could conceivably carry 173 times its body weight. Since Peter was bitten by a radioactive spider and was given the agility and proportionate strength of an arachnid (spider) from that bite, you can see how Peter would have super strength.
Which is the funny thing about the car scene, with his speed, reflexes and strength he could disarm the guy and break his arm before he even blinked but he is too much of a kid to even think of that and he just froze in the moment. He was never in any danger in the car.
'Sokovia awards' 😂😂😂😂😂 that was a good one
Villain called The Vulture's
Explosion in the distance. You're first reaction: "You gotta go to the party first."
Classic...
Keep up the great work!
Fun facts: Peter's science teacher is the intern that Bruce Banner bribed with a pizza to get access to the college computer lab. It's the same actor playing the same character.
The high school principal is related to one of Captain America's Howling Commandos from Captain America: the first Avenger. Marvel has the same actor playing both roles.
And the Flash is a DC character, but back when Spider-Man was created Flash was a pretty common nickname. You usually got that nickname for either quick thinking or having fast reflexes. That's how Flash Gordon got his name (and that Flash isn't even Marvel or DC)
And finally this movie was shot as an homage to the John Hughes high school movies from the Eighties. So if you liked this movie, you might like those films. If you haven't seen them, that is.
Yes, IIRC the original Flash Thompson was an award winning track runner.
Never heard of a flying spider. But I’ve heard of floating ones. Some spider breeds [or just one], when they are hatched, will spin a tiny parachute like web. They will “catch” the wind with it and float away. I don’t think they use it alter that. Others will use them to get places as adults whenever they feel the need.
40:18 The Vulture
That tension in car is palpable... So good.
33:41 I still remember being a kid and having this SAME smile on my face when I found out my crush liked me. :)
Great reaction, as always 😉. Spider-Man was definitely one of my all-time favorite superheroes growing up. I used to read a bunch of the Spider-Man comic books (I wish I kept them, oh well). Anyway, I also wanted to say I really like the new setup, especially that blue background. Very Zen-like.
Yes there are 'flying' spiders. No wings but they use web threads as a kind of parchute.
Cutest. Jaw-drop. Ever!
"¿Aí?-*GASSSSSSSP!!!"😅
The superhero Flash is DC, the bully Flash Thompson is MARVEL, he later befriends Peter, goes to war, matures and becomes Agent Venom in The Comics, not to be confused with OG Venom of which there were three: Eddie Brock, Angelo Fortunato(And yes, his name being Latin for "Fortunate angel" was very much a deliberate bit of dramatic irony on the writers` parts as he was the shortest lived Venom by far as well as the most irredeemable as the son of a mob boss) and Mac Gargan/Scorpion.
7:11 "It's not a hug. I'm just grabbin' the door, for you."
😏 _Right._ The door _right beside_ him that there's no possible way he can reach _himself._
The guy Peter leaves in that parking lot is Aaron Davis, the uncle of Mile Morales, another Spider Man.
To put into perspective how strong Spider Man is: During the movie, when the rubble from the building fell on Peter. The rubble itself is estimated to have weighed around 163 tons, which is equivalent to 326,000 pounds. Just 1 of those tons is 2000 pounds. Somehow Peter was able to survive this and woke up without any fatal injuries. Not only that, but he also managed to lift up those two giant cinder blocks with two giant industrial fans on top of them and pushed them completely off of him. The weight that he would have to lift is estimated to be around 9.5 tons, or 19,000 pounds. The most weight that a regular human has ever did for an overhead press is 602 pounds. Based on the movies, the most that Captain America was able to overhead press is 800 pounds. This would mean that Spider Man is 23.75 times stronger than Captain America. This is one of the reasons why Tony Stark recruited him for the battle in Captain America Civil War and why Tony wanted to make him an Avenger. Tony doesn't just admire Peter for his strength, but also for his heart. This is why Spider Man is argued to be one of the strongest super heroes in terms of sheer strength and will power.
Spidey in the MCU is basically an honorary part time Avenger since "Civil War".
45:34 "I'm... I'm good."
"You're good? You're turning me down?"
He's 14, Tony. He's got to grow _up._ This recent episode _showed_ him that.
Keep a toy or stuffed animal to grip when you’re anxious. You don’t want to injure or infect your fingertips. :-)
Hey Cristy! How's it going? So yes Flash is a part of the DC universe along with Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonderwoman, etc. It would be cool if you watched them at some point. As some have said, it is advisable to watch the other 5 Spiderman films before say the next 6 or 7 more Marvel films. Spiderman is so strong because he was bitten by a Radioactive spider, it wasn't just a "normal" spider. According to the Marvel database Spiderman can lift 10 tons, Captain America can lift 1200 lbs, The Hulk is up there past 100 tons. Love your reactions! Have a great weekend! 😊
I love all the Spiderman movies but Toby Maguire will always be my favorite Spiderman
The bully is always named Flash in Spider-Man but he has no powers
Toomes character is Vulture. Spidey is super strong. In the comics, Doc Ock punches Scorpion’s jaw off while his mind is switched with Peter and he realizes Peter is holding back all the time.
As long as you watch the old Spider-Man movies before Spider-Man No way Home. There are references to the old ones.
There are different types of heroes cristy ...u have the superheroes who don't like to kill but apprehend or subdue by any means but if the villian backs them to a corner they may have no choice but to take them out but then u have antiheroes like punisher daredevil blade and Deadpool that have no problem killing bad guys ....i would also check them out
32:38 "Why... does he live... with his aunt... May? Why doesn't he live with his _parents?"_
Every superhero has to have a traumatic _loss_ in their backstory. Spiderman's is that his aunt is the only family he has _left._
26:30 Fun Fact: This teacher even though he didn't have a name at the time, was in "The Incredible Hulk" as the same guy. He was one of the students at the university when Bruce Banner delivered the pizzas.
Just to answer your question, Flash in this movie is not the superhero the Flash. He is from an entirely different comic book company called DC Comics. Hope that helps:)
The scene where Peter lifts the rubble is from a story arc called "If This Be My Destiny" (Amazing Spider-Man 31-33). Reader's Digest version: Peter is starting college, dealing with a new villain, and Aunt May is dealing with a life-threatening disease. The villain captures May and trespass traps Spider-Man under tons of rubble. He starts thinking about Msy, Uncle Ben, and his friends, which gives him the strength to lift the pile off of him. This is the first proof of his strength.
great reaction :) and you should really concider to watch the 3 tobeys sm movies and both of andrews films at least before you watch Spider-Man: No Way Home in the future :D
This Spider Man is still inexperienced, but since he tends to pull his punches, even his enemies usually don't realize that he could rip their heads right off if he wanted to. Thor, Hulk, and Namor are stronger than him, but few others are.
Yes he's still very young and inexperienced in the MCU and yes he pulls his punches a lot. Spider-Man has historically fought mostly street-level opponents- normal human muggers, bank robbers etc. And many of his regular villains aren't overly powerful, they're fairly low-level superhuman, scientists whose experiments went wrong or someone with a piece of advanced tech. So Spider-Man is usually holding back to avoid accidentally killing someone. However, Spider-Man isn't anywhere close to being the strongest Marvel character. LOTS of other Marvel characters are stronger than him.
Back in the 1963 there were only 4 other characters stronger than Spider-Man... Thor, Hulk, Namor and the Thing. And many people mistakenly believe that's still true today. But it's not... Spider-Man hasn't been borderline top 5 in strength since the 1960s. Over the past 6 decades Marvel has introduced many heroes and villains physically stronger than him. Characters like Hercules, Wonder Man, Doc Samson, Vision, Valkyrie, Black Bolt, Thundra, She-Hulk, Colossus, Sasquatch, Gilgamesh, Ikaris, Hyperion, Beta Ray Bill etc. Even the average Asgardian (not even heroes like Heimdall, Valkyrie, Sif and the Warriors 3 but the average citizen) is over twice as strong as Spider-Man.
Spidey is much stronger than he looks, and because he mostly fights street-level foes, people don't realize how powerful he is. They think of him as being around the same power level as other street level heroes, but he's not. He has strength, speed and agility way above super-soldiers like Cap and Bucky. Plus he's got his spider-sense and webs, and he's a science genius, especially in chemistry (he created the formula for his web fluid). But on pure strength while he's legit superhuman, he's not top tier.
Please react to Rush hour 1,2 and 3 starring Jackie Chan and Chris tucker. All great movies
love your reactions. thanks Cristy
Flash It's his name, he's Flash Thompson. It's like the "bully" of the school
23:05 I do remember, and I also know that the voice was Black Widow!
Yes ! I love that you called out the Ramones, Cristy. They are my favorite band and there are a lot of parallels between them and Spider Man, which is why they often reference each other (the Ramones covered the classic Spider Man theme song in 1995, and Andrew Garfield Spider Man had a Ramones poster in his room).
Like Spider Man, the Ramones are from Queens, NY. And like Spider Man, they were underdogs. A group of misfits who never had a proper top 40 hit, had a lot of personal problems, but they kept on trying their best. Just like Spidey. They used humor to deal with the fact that they were outcasts, just like Spider Man with his quips.
Lovable losers always trying their best. Your friendly neighborhood punk rockers. Hey ho! Let's go!
Before he was the Vulture, Michael Keaton was Batman AND Birdman...
One time a villain went into Peter’s body, not knowing that Peter constantly holds back this villain punches someone’s head clean off
Eugene "Flash" Thompson is just a school mate of Peter and a weak Bully. In the Comics he is also a school mate of Peter and a bully, but actually becomes "Agent Venom". A result of a S.H.I.E.L.D. Program with a venom symbiote to save Flashs life. He also has similar power than Spiderman. So question if they make him a main character later in the MCU or if it is just a little neat nerd detail. Shield is not a thing anymore. So who knows.
"Is that the real Flash, the superhero? 👀"
Oh Cristy... Oh sweet sweet Cristy... 🙂
39:22 cuticle in English like cute ickle
Thank you kind sir, i appreciate it!
18:14 "Are there _flying_ spiders... in real life? Like actual spiders... that fly... or have wings?"
That have _wings?_ No. That would be _way_ too great a variation from their _typical_ morphology. There are spiders that _jump._ In fact, there are spiders that jump pretty great _distances._ They'll freak you _out._
🤔 I seem to recall, though, I once heard about spiders that ride _air_ currents on apparatuses they make with their _webbing._ They sound pretty freaky, _too._
The character in question is call Eugene “Flash” Thompson, call the Flash in the comics because he’s fast in football. Not to be confused with with DC The Flash, who’s power is speed similar to Quicksilver.
Michelle (MJ) seems to be a modern adaptation of Mary Jane (MJ) one of Spiderman's original love interests. Mary Jane is an aspiring actress and basically the super popular girl everyone likes. Where as this new MJ seems much more the dark emo, too cool to be cool kinda character..
Great reaction, congrats on the new "studio" and as always can't wait for your next reaction! 😊
I’ve seen a lot of MCU reactions these are by far my favourite such a great personality makes each video so unique and fun ✌️♥️🇬🇧
45:54 the shock(er)! Loves it! 😂😂
Yes, technically speaking, SPIDERMAN was/is an AVENGER from the comics & movies. 😀
Some fans make blanket statements like "Spider-Man is one of the most powerful superheroes of all" which isn't really true. In a certain context it is, but people frequently forget or simply don't know the context.
In terms of raw power Spider-Man has never been a powerhouse on the level of Thor, Hulk, Juggernaut, Sentry, Silver Surfer etc. But he's much stronger than people expect given his small/skinny frame. He just looks scrawny, especially as a teenager. But Spidey is legit superhuman, in the movies he's 3-5 times stronger than brawny super-soldier types like Captain America and Bucky. In the comics he's over 20X stronger. And since he mostly fights street-level criminals like regular muggers/robbers and scientists whose experiments got out of control, Spider-Man is always pulling his punches to avoid accidentally killing someone.
In the early 1960s Stan Lee said Spider-Man was actually one of Marvel's strongest characters- which was true at the time. Back then, there weren't many superheroes yet. Spider-Man was the 6th-strongest one after Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Namor and The Thing. But that was 60 years ago... since then, Marvel has introduced dozens and dozens of character who were physically way stronger than Spider-Man. Even by the 1980s Spider-Man was no longer among Marvel's 20 physically strongest characters, too many other big hitters had been introduced. But Spider-Man was (and still is) one of the most formidable superheroes, with a unique combination of abilities few characters can match.
For around 50 years Spider-Man's official strength (according to Marvel) was 10 ton class, meaning he could lift that much overhead. But he frequently lifted more in crisis situations when his adrenaline was flowing. That's what Spider-Man became known for- being the guy who could exceed his limits when the stakes were high and chips were down. In addition to his strength, Spider-Man has incredible speed and agility. His Spider-sense alerts him to danger in advance, making it almost impossible for opponents to hit him. Plus he's got his webs and ability to stick to walls. He's just the total package- lots of characters are stronger but they're much slower and less agile. Characters who are faster than Spidey have only a fraction of his strength. Plus Peter Parker is a genius- especially when it comes to chemistry. He's one of Marvel's 10 smartest characters. All of those things combined are why Spider-Man is so hard to beat.
No, Eugene`s just nicknamed "Flash", the teacher was joking.
Since this is technically third stand alone Spider-Man movie and his origin was pretty well known by most comic book and movie fans by this point, they never really show how Peter got bitten by the radioactive spider and the early days of his career as everyone's favorite web head. I won't say much more, but you really should check out the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield movies at some point... maybe after Infinity War and Endgame. Just a suggestion.
Spider-Man can pick up a full sized bus at resting state. He’s that strong
First The Flash is a super hero from D.C. comics like Superman and Batman. Also I don't worry if you do not know everything about comic books, because the MCU doesn't follow the comic books very strictly.. Spider-Man has many of the attributes of a spider, which can lift things more than 170 times its weight. If you extend that to Spider-Man he should be able to lift about14 tons. My favorite thing from this movie is the main villain is Michael Keaton, who also played Batman in 1989. I still enjoy your reactions. Thank you for more fun.
33:58 behold...one of the greatest twists of all the MCU movies! 😱😱😱
The superhero "The Flash" is owned by DC Comics. So, unless there is a huge crossover event sometime in the future, which will definitely be promoted and advertised to the point you wouldn't be able to avoid it short of living in a cave, you will not be seeing "The Flash" in a Marvel movie. Other DC superheroes are Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aqua Man, Green Lantern, any superhero that has had a show on the CW and many others. But those are the main ones. Like Marvel, DC has been doing superhero comics for decades and have a huge library of lesser known heroes at their disposal (kind of like how Marvel introduced the Guardians of the Galaxy into the MCU).
Cristy I suggest u watch the other Spiderman films , the Toby and Andrew ones before u finish the tom Holland versions.
At least before you watch No Way Home.
8:24 "Is he the actual _Flash?_ The _superhero?"_
😳 Oh, goodness, Cristy. No. They're not even in the same _comic_ universe. Spiderman is _Marvel._ Flash is _DC._
28:20 there are flying spider irl. In fact there is a thing called spider rain where thousands of spiders falling from the sky at the same time.
I think it makes more sense to to watch Black Panther, then Thor Ragnarok as it leads directly into Infinite War.
He’s the Vulture.
The agreement with Sony was all because of the relationship between Kevin Fegie at Marvel and Amy Pascal at Sony. They saw the benefit of incorporating Spiderman into the MCU so Disney and Sony agreed on certain uses for the character. Sony is still producing Spiderman content to keep the rights for making Spiderman movies but sooner or later the rights will go back to Marvel or be bought out by someone again. So for now it is just an agreement to mutually benefit. The Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield are only Sony produced but you should watching them before you finish the MCU Spiderman movies or at least get an idea of what happens in them. The stories end up helping the MCU Spiderman make sense in the end.
The Tom Holland Spiderman story is not like the comics at all. In the comics Spiderman hates Tony Stark most of the time. Tony Stark is a major jerk in the comics but they went a different direction in the MCU. RDJ and Favreau had creative control over the Stark character and took it in a different direction. This completely changed how Spiderman is in the MCU as compared to the comic history. Yes Spiderman is one of the most powerful comic characters in Marvel but he holds back. He is not on the level of Hulk in the comics but initially he could stand toe to toe with Hulk until they went crazy with the Hulk power levels in the 1990s.
Not only do the original Spider-Man (Sony) pictures matter to the MCU, so do the X-Men and the Fantastic Four (the latter only to get an idea of who they are) AND the Netflix Daredevil
(now Disney+). That's only 100's of hours of film Cristy.
Another great video! I can't wait for Ragnarok! It's in my top 5 MCU movies.
Adrian Toomes is The Vulture.
If I were to encounter a Spider-Man villain, the one I wouldn’t want to experience is probably the Green Goblin. Who’s the scariest Marvel villain in your opinion?
Cristy, I'm sure your ?s about Peter's/Spiderman's origin will be answered in the comments section which is unfortunate because this movie bypassed the retelling of Spidey's origin because it was so well known. The Tobey Maguire Spiderman movies covered that pretty well (though they did take some liberties from the comics) and I highly recommend you do at least the first 2 of those 3 films to get a really good feel for the character. Michael Keaton, the actor who played Toomes/The Vulture (Bad Falcon HA!) is very well known for playing Batman and Beetlegeuse in films, also movies you should check out. Hey, just when I was going to start calling you the WOW Gal you switch to OMG! Must be the new climate in Florida ☀
It’s actually Beetlejuice…. Beetlejuice is a great movie…
Bad Falcon!
Lay down!
lol
The biggest reason Spider-Man is so powerful is because of his Spider Sense. His ability to sense danger just before it happens and how to safely maneuver around it.
Cristy - listen to the comments. Start making your way through the first Spider-Man series asap (i.e. the Tobey Maguire series) as you're continuing your way through the MCU and you'll get a way better appreciation of Peter's backstory, and then watch the Amazing Spider-Man (i.e. Andrew Garfield) movies, which was a reboot. You have plenty of time, just make sure you get through them before you get to the third MCU Spider-Man movie (No Way Home), which comes a few movies after Avengers: Endgame. 👍🏼
Did you see what Spiderman was lifting up while talking to Captain America at the airport?
If it was Peter Parker vs. Bucky, or Cap in an arm wrestling match, my money's on Parker. A one on one fight, WITHOUT his spider sense Cap and Bucky just because they know how to fight well.
Mary Jane Watson is Peter's main love interest in the comics. Michelle going by MJ is a nod to her.
Great job understanding Spidey film drama! :-)
I would recommend watching the Spider-Man and Fantastic Four non-MCU film. It gives proper context regarding those characters.
‘Nuff Said.
It’s not that Spider-Man is “the most powerful”. That would better describe some other characters in the MCU.
It’s just that Spidey is super strong (he can lift around 10 tons) nowhere near as much as Hulk and Thor, though. And his agility, speed and spider-sense make him so formidable in a fight.
33:51 literally *everyone* says that Marisa Tomei is gorgeous 😂
This movie is actually only about 4 to 5 years after the first avengers. The first avengers is 2012 and this is just a couple of months after civil war which was 2016. Whoever was in charge of making this movie screwed up the timeline big time
He lives with his aunt because his parents are dead and uncle was shot they just didn't want to show the same origin as past spiderman film's