Nostalgia or not and despite some obvious issues, Medieval 2 is still an incredibly enjoyable game. Yes it's from a different age, with a different flair and approach to certain things, simple graphics & some gameplay issues but at it's purest form it delivers a mechanically engaging & at times challenging experience. When you add the Kingdoms expansions and all the hundreds of insane overhaul mods available for it it absolutely has to be the GOAT of Total War. What do you think? Let me know in the comments below!
what made me stop playing medieval 2 since i bought shogun 2 is the troop replenishment i prefer the automatic replenishment than the hassle to travel the unit to a castle to retrain
Medieval 2 settlement management system is amazing. No modern total war game can make me feel as connected to my realm and invested in it's development as medieval 2 does.
Especially the roads and PORTS , with that roads and port visual effect that u get in the map when you upgrade them, caravans and ships roaminng the campaign makes its more lively.
The province system is one of the worst things to happen total war. If you want to play optimally (which everyone does) you need to take these 2 or 3 cities. Instead of doing what you want, which is the point of the game.
@@IVIRnathanreilly I tried liberating such regions and making them my client states. They end up sending full stack armies trough my entire empire, putting them to random far away regions and just waiting to betray me. Very annoying
@@VinnieG- "it's called total war, not total peace". It's called total war but it's just a strategy game, that they're taking all the strategic decisions for mass appeal with WH. It's a joke.
My biggest thing is the sieges. If you destroyed their equipment they were screwed. Now every unit can basically climb over walls or destroy main gates completely. Very unrealistic.
You meant realistic? Like all the stuff is made from wood, and it was so suprising to me that it's really works and you can easily ignite the siege tower, or ram giving you a big advantage in defence
I was born the year this game came out and had never heard of total war before 2022 and now in 2024 I have 1500 hours in the game. It isn’t just nostalgia the game is genuinely just quality.
total war medieval 3 could be the best game in the series if they remember what they did for medieval 2 and build off it better instead of copying the engines they have in modern time, would be the biggest comeback for CA, but it 99% wouldn't happen, I hope project renaissance can come out and be the medieval 3 we want and need though or empire 2 that's actually good and the whole world with naval combat coming back
I like medieval 2, especially on the strategic level, due to its different instruments of power: diplomatic, intelligence, military, economic etc. A Medieval 3 with current AI technology, to allow for more realistic reactions on the different instruments of power, would be a hit!
Nostalgic? No. I get into the total war franchise thanks to Warhammer 2, i loved the lizardmen trailer. I even got warhammer 1 just for the Mortal empires Campaing. My most loved DLC was about the Tomb kings, the first one WH2 had. all because of the Bone giants. At the beggining i was like " human vs human boring, fantasy races and giant entities SO COOL", i could never understand how people prefered the old games where every faction seemed the same. Then, i tried Medieval 2 and i understood why, all the mechanics lost, the formations and coherence in battle lost, agents lost, it felt better in every way compared to Warhammer. Feudal knights have more weight in their walk and sound than Skarbrand.. You can come and tell me "oh but medieval 2 has a bad camera", i don't care, it compensate with the rest. I never in my life played a single total war game as a kid, my first one was WH2 (which i loved in his time) but now i can say that is not Nostalgia.
I am glad you confirmed this because I thought I was crazy for still playing this game after so many years. I started playing TW games with the first Rome game and Med2 was basically everything I loved but better. Not a single TW game came close to this level of enjoyment, the role playing potential etc. The simple cheat console that you can use for fun. The slower pace, the weight of it is just so much better then the newer games. Attila was awesome and had so much potential but CA ruined that too so... it is what it is. I think I will legit play med 2 until I am like 50.
I also played my first TW Med 2 in 2020 in my mid 20s and by now I already have around 250 hours in it. The best one so far still hope one day we get remaster.
Your take is very valuable. It's painful to realize how far total war has fallen. Can you imagine a warhammer with as much care and love in it as medieval 2? Best selling game on the planet in strategy
Don't forget the dynamic Speeches generated based on the traits of your generals. Love them. I think this and Empire were the best due to all the new mechanics they introduced in total war saga. The latest titles only focused in graphic improvementes and a few new mechanics.
MTW2 is my most played TW game to date (after Rome I), mostly because of the modding scene. Some things are a bit buggy and the AI is annoying at times, but isn't that just most TW games? There isn't a better battle map TW out there in my opinion. The units have "weight", charges are impactful, and terrain/weather actually matter. These things should be standard in combat games that actually care about military tactics. Also gunpowder units with knights is a very fun variety of units to use. Plus the economic systems are simple enough to get the hang of, but not so simple you can ignore it. The mods fix a lot of issues with the game and give it a tremendous amount of depth. When I play newer TWs, I find myself just going back to MTW2 because the newer games are more restrictive and too easy, and the battles are absolute trash.
Recently got my first PC thanks to my electrical gig. Medieval 2 was the first game I got on steam and its the only thing ive played so far, Im still on my first campaign taking my time and enjoying every minute playing and figuring out the game. I understand im a total war newbie atm and theres some things that are annoying sometimes, but in my opinion Medieval 2 is definitely not too old to be enjoyed. Its quickly becoming one of my favorite games ever and it came out in 2006, but thats just me.
None other title gives me this level of nostalgia. I remember the amazing online community of 2017 & 2018, a decade after release still vibrant, full of great people and still competitive. The epic 4v4 battles we fought, clan wars, sieges and all the incredible mods, people i will always think warm about. Thank you for this video!
Medieval may have dated graphics but the gameplay and depth of many mechanics holds my interest far more than Warhammer. Having played hundreds of hours of Warhammer, I have grown bored of the rather shallow gameplay. Meanwhile I have been playing Med II (with and without mods) since I was a kid and it continues to hold my interest.
Grew up on Rome 1, then Medieval 2. It's the one Total war I keep coming back to. Nicely balanced game with tons of content. Rome 1 is great too, but Medieval 2 not having one overpowered faction like the Romans, is so much more inviting for me.
The ONLY thing, in what new total war BETTER, than Rome and Medieval2 - this is an infinite number of factions instead of rebels on half the map and no limit on 20+ factions and 200+ regions!
It would be nice in the remaster if they included all the DLC factions on a big mega map and updated some of the various rosters. Like Russia for example. I realize it might not make sense to squeeze all of that into the campaign but certain factions or at least the ability for those factions to spawn out of events would be nice. Like the HRE can form the Teutonic order if they control X province. Or Norway can be formed once the danes conquer certain territory. Or Ireland. You get the idea.
My only complains about Medieval 2 from a today's standpoint are pathfinding and some ai issues. And naval battles would be nice. But gameplay, factions, music, design... It's all perfect and timeless. Mixing Shogun 2 and Medieval 2 would make my ideal total war.
I actually love the manual replenishment. Merge units, the game will divide the experience accordingly. Take your most experienced damaged unit of a kind, and use it to fill up the less experienced ones. Then send the last few members of the experienced unit back to replenish in the castle. I always imagined it like spreading out some veterans to the newbie troops sharing their knowledge; and sending the most experienced veterans home to get some deserved rest. :)
Medieval 2s UI and campaign map is the cleanest and easiest to use, I remember booting up Rome 2 and being behind lost with the map and the UI, I think the classic total war style suits the games so much better !
Either give us Medieval 3 TW, starting in 911 a.d. in the late Viking era and ending in the mid 16th century. Or a Medieval 2 remastered. Although I think if CA give us a remastered Medieval 2 and the modders get a hold of it, no one would buy another total war game ever again unless CA does something so innovative that it shadows over the previous games.
I don't understand why the devs insist with the current gameplay of Total War when fans obviously loved the old mechanic. Really, its an easy fix and probably much easier to just reskin the units with whatever time period they want, change/update the map, and improve graphics and AI.
@@CaelanCromwell That why pharaoh is a flop, and troy wasn't much better? They were making money off warhammer fanboys and the west taiwanese, but as soon as they realized that in west taiwan they don't buy DLC they dropped 3K and then learned that it wasn't the Total War part that was selling the games. I really hope that rumor that they are trying to make a Star Wars game is fake news, both SW and TW are completely dead on top of it being completely incompatible with the mechanics.
@@demomanchaos But it still has higher sales than rome 1 and medieval 2. The old creators of medieval 2 are long gone. They were all fired way back 2013. So the one who are creating this new total wars are dumbing down the old mechanics before.
@@CaelanCromwell Are you including ALL sales or just steam numbers, because like a very large portion of the player base I've got the old disc version. Note as well that one week after release pharaoh fell to 9th place as the most played TW, with half the players as M2 on just Steam (This isn't counting the disc players like myself which make up a very large chunk of the player base). Even Empire was ahead of Pharaoh.
I loved the video and I agree with everything you said. This game helped me through med school, and kept me sane. It will always have a special place in my heart. I own and still play all total war games (excluding Pharaoh) but here and then I come back to this masterpiece.
Unit retraining system instead of unit replenishment in each turn, gives this game more intense. Making you unconsciously pick which battle you want engage, carefully. And because of that, losing a battle or have a phyrric victory can be very annoying. Plus if you have special unit like Templar and Hospitaller Knights or some mercenaries like war elephant, you can only recruit and retraining in some specific area. This also gave spies or scouting unit more impactful role because you don't want to get ambushed by your enemy just after entering some random forest area.
I’d like a remaster but I’m starting to doubt that it’ll happen. Luckily we have EOP to break engine limits, and I’m curious if nVidia’s remix could be used to improve the graphics.
The Medieval Era is my favorite time period, especially the early Medieval Period. Medieval Total War and its many mods have provided me with many hours of enjoyment over the past twenty years, and I will continue to play for twenty more. At least! Thanks for highlighting this amazing game. Do you think that they will release a re-mastered version like they did for Rome I?
The warhammer mod for medieval 2 was more fun and satisfyingl(despite the glitches and jank) than the modern games are for me. The new engines and game systems just feel lackluster compared to the weight of medieval and rome. The modern visuals dont make up for anything.
As someone who has played a LOT of medieval 2 i have to say that vanilla is quite bad (graphics etc), but mods on the other hand like tsardoms and stainless steel really make the game feel great even tho its nearly 20 years old
I had been playing Rome 2 and Attila over the past 10 years and loved them. Attila brings the challenge and atmosphere, plus has great looking graphics and I liked the battles. Rome 2 however got waayyy too easy. Eventually I figured out that if I got 2 good full stacks and kept them together I could stomp anything with auto resolve and I ended up always auto resolving siege battles because I would get lower casualties that way, even though I could win them myself. I also HATED how you don't need siege equipment and any unit can throw torches to burn down a gate, that isn't realistic at all! So I realized after playing Attila how shallow Rome 2 was. But then... over the past year I reinstalled OG Rome and M2TW... and holy cow! they are better in every single way, accept some AI and graphics stuff, but that is not core to the experience. I am playing Europa Barbarorum 1 and Stainless Steel 6.4 and I am so much more immersed in these campaigns. I virtually NEVER auto resolve in these games, and that makes it better, TW battles are half the reason I love the games. The #1 thing I have realized is that they completely destroyed the personality of your characters. I am having a million times more fun dealing with all the cool and interesting ancillaries and traits with characters than in the newer titles, they basically neutered the personality of the game. in newer games there really isn't much difference between one general and another, and there is zero personality difference in one general to another, they destroyed the role playing aspect for me. and don't get me started on replenishment, the new system makes it far too easy to conquer a place, wait 3 turns to replenish, conquer next place, wait 2 turns to replenish, rinse and repeat. I say it is not nostalgia, it is depth and personality that make the older games better. I started on Rome 1 when I was a kid, but never actually played M2TW till I was a young adult.
Started playing Total War Rome looking for an age of empires like game. I quickly became totally invested in the game like no other game I'd play before. The absolute power you had to manage towns and control battles adhering to very realistic battle. Medieval II was the second total war game I played and in my opinion it was perfect. I put 900 hours into that game. The amount of creativity you can implement in your empire building is limitless. The only thing that really needed improvement was the AI and graphics but they scrapped imo a lot of the best features.
I really wish the "Man of the Hour" event caused a captain to become a general, without adopting him into the Royal Family. It should give you the option to adopt them into the Royal Family only if the character is a (non family tree) general.
I just discovered medavil 2 is availible on my ios is that same as the pc? Should i buy it i wan’t to know is that the exactly same like that one on pc as it is about 50 £ in my country please advice.
I am no Graphics guy. The only problem I have with M2 are the missing gameplay mechanics and diplomacy options. I would totally buy a medieval 2 remastered with Stainless Steel Graphics and Warhammer 3 gameplay, where every Faction plays different.
I’ve been meaning to sail the high seas and acquire this game. CA can suck a phat one if they think i’m paying 40$ for a decade old game that’s STILL somehow they’re best. Thanks for reminding me!
The biggest and most epic battles I've ever played were with this game! I'll never forget a defensive siege I saved from Gondor in Third Age TW. What a good time...😅
America is not a late game mechanic but an easter egg. The late game mechanic of Medieval 2 is basically the Mongols and Timurids. By the time you can discover the few extra regions you've usually won, unless you've only conservatively expanded your territory.
In a recent non-gameplay video from Legend, he said the next actual big historical that his sources have told him is a world map set in the 18th century. Have anything on that?
Yes I just watched the video..obviously as he said "take it with a pinch of salt".. and probably wouldn't release until 2026.. but certainly something to hope for!
Too old to enjoy? No way. I just reinstalled it again recently and i'm having a blast. I never played kingdoms back in the day so having all that and using a mod such as the 'Kingdoms Grand Campaign' mod which puts all those expansion factions in the main game is really awesome. And this time around i've learned to mod the game to an extent i never did before so tinkering with the troop rosters and factions, making new units, making more interesting rebel armys, better and more interesting mercenarys to hire ect, has all been a ton of fun. I do feel alot of nostalgia for the first one though, Medieval 1, ... the Joms vikings, Almohad urban militia, Trebizond archers ... it was all good stuff, and there was a cool Napoleonic mod for it which i loved and played endlessly. Shout out to Rome 1 also for being an awesome game ... spartan hoplites, night raiders and axe wielding scythian women, germanic heavy cav, urban cohort ... hell yeah.
This game has been with me for years, until now I still play it with the mod called SSHIP to spice things up a notch. I hope the creators will be creating M3TW soon. that would be a game I would by on release
My dad loved this game so damn much and played forever very late and after work before work. In days off he loved this! Rest in peace Richard William Harper IV. Sorry you had to do that!
Still my favorite TW title since released and played almost daily, along with Kingdoms, even now. Ha, I'm even trying to move the maps around with my cursor in this vid. It's built-in at this point. Great vid!
Medieval 2 is definitely not too old to enjoy. I played it for the first time last year and I got SO addicted to it. Medieval 2's presentation could be considered a little outdated, but other than that it's a blast.
I bought it a year ago and it was worth the 15 bucks for sure. The music is fantastic and some enjoyable moments playing the game but the battles don't compare to rome 2 or attila .
The americas campaign is highly underrated. We got so many different unique factions and mechanics that were vastly different from the other campaigns.
I play medieval 2 at least once a week, I only played it for the first time about 2 years ago...and besides Rome 1 and its DLCs...I feel no reason to play any other total war games ... it just hits the right spot
Is that really a question though ? We all know M2 was, is and always will be the goat. I replayed it in SS 6.4 as Jerusalem and as much as I like 1212AD it is nowhere compared to M2 in any domain except graphics which is not much.
I have really positive feelings toward Rome 1 (since I grew up playing it), however whenever I try to play Medieval 2 I just don't really stick with it. I have certainly picked up on the glaring issues of Rome 1 that are even there in the remaster, but I at least completed a couple short campaigns close to its release. If they ever revisit Medieval 2, I think it would need to me a full remake, since the pathfinding really drags the experience down in Rome 1 Remaster. If we could get that (or just Medieval 3) I would certainly take more of an interest.
Modded or unmodded it still feels great to play now, with the four expansion too, they all feel immersive and allow much freedom for the player to play however they want
Hi there, Long time watcher first time commenter. Just like to say live total war and love your videos about them! Keep up the good work! When I watch your videos like these I get nostalgic but would like to experience the game in the best way possible Maybe a nice video idea (maybe you have already done this) could you make a video for each total war for what mods you would recommend to get the most out of the game? So no change mods but just improve mods to get the most out of the core game as possible.
There are a few things that made me not enjoy MTW2 as much as I'd like. I hate that the AI cheats and they know when you empty a settlement even without having any spies there or LOS. And I hate that you can have a ton of armies around and you can't control them in battle, and only some of them actually join you in the battle, because their range is weird. Plus the ally AI is stupid. Edit: And the Pope mechanic is cancer. :D
CA had it almost there with MTW2. They "just" had to solve the problems the community was reporting. I know it's not easy, but definitely easier than what they are doing...
Having done S2 modding I can assure you the AI is a cheating bastard. They do not suffer "Resistance to Invaders" unrest penalties, never have to worry about the Realm Divide (Even if they take Kyoto), actually get more movement on the campaign map, upkeep isn't a problem for them, stat boosts in battle, pretty sure their agents/generals just magically level up even when not fighting/acting, and more.
It’s my first total war & still the one I play by far the most.. It is goated. The battles are a good length and the change in elevation & terrain keeps every battle fresh and it’s not ridiculous to handle like the new total wars. Graphics are also very manageable to me still, wish they had limp bodies like Rome 2 but still all good.,, The settlement management is what separates it the most tho. The way you can build up each settlement is just way better than any other total war outside probably Rome at least in some aspects maybe., I love the city or castle element to the management side making so you have some settlements you set up as financial hubs and others as strongholds. But then you can separate armies like I can put literally a 1 man archer unit into some bushes for instance for a scout, a big army for an ambush , or a fort to block a bridge.. But if you don’t have a general they are much more likely to turn rebel too . Also you can rename settlements and just how each of your generals progress is so cool compared to other total wars where they level up compared to adapting to their unique circumstances. They can become so & so the terror or so & so the afriad lol all kinds of possibilities depending on how you use them and things out of your control being just chance of course. . So much customization as well as tiny details that other total wars aren’t even close too matching. Doubt they’ll ever make one that tops it. My personal fav & the others don’t even come close, only ones I play are Rome , Rome 2 & shogun 2
I hate they removed the Hotseat Campaign feature, was far more fun that it should be to play as every faction. Several times I've done the Britannia campaign as everyone, and it is impressive how overpowered England is. Unless everyone gangs up on them a decently run England is basically unstoppable. I also cannot figure out why the crap they didn't keep the armor/weapon improvements actually changing the appearance of the units on the field.
It can't be nostalgia. My first tw game was Rome 2, my second was Attila. And instead of playing those I'm playing M2TW because it's a thousand times better! 👌😎
Legendary game,i still remember playing this game when i was 15 now im almost 30years old and i still play sometimes. Best total war game ever,bought Rome2 refunded after 2 hours of playing Mediveal2 is old but GOLD.
I was a child when I first played this game. I grew up with this game, went to high school, finished my Bachelor's Degree, finished my Masters Degree, got a job, got married and am still playing MTW 😅. I will become a parent and will teach my kid to play the game. You can consider me a Grand Master of the game with 4000+ hours of gameplay.
Med 2 had best combat, not single entitiy 1on1 combat and not the over the stop 'swing in general direction of enemy' of Warhammer and 3K. Units did an attack animations against a single target and they would either block or be hit, this allowed mutiple units to attack one target which mean defending your flanks was super important. Very elite heavily armed and expensive troops could be ganked if they got flanked and 3 guys piled onto the same person stunnlocking them. Combine that with acutal technolgoical improvements that had visual effects, how late game cities and castles were massive it just made things feel good.
Rome had way better cav phischyics imo i like rtw more for this a cav charge has impact in rome in medievil i feels like it just bounces off the enemy half the time
I won't deny I have nostalgia for Medieval 2, it blew my mind as a kid when I saw some vídeos of it and it is the first game I tried when I finally got an acceptable PC that could run it. However nostalgia can only carry something so far, there are other games I have nostalgia for that I realized aren't that good when playing them in more recent years, leaving them unfinished because I got bored. But this isn't the case with Medieval 2, I still play the game to this day and generally is my total war go-to when I want to start a campaign but don't know which one. Yeah nostalgia is a big factor, but so is good gameplay.
Things that drove me nuts about Medieval 2 when not using cheat codes was it seemed no matter how much money you took in, you were always broke and so it was a pain to go settlement by settlement to micromanage construction queues when they kept flip flopping from green to red to green. If you were playing as a Catholic faction, the Pope was always against you even when it was your guy you promoted to pope, and if you were the Holy Roman Empire, you were screwed with the Pope, the Mongols were so stupid OP they'd wipe you out no matter how many armies and tricks you'd try.
medieval 2 is my baby my child, its such a good game, i think the events are broken for me because the mongols haven't invaded, france and england didn't show up in americas, and i never got any new buildings as spain to get gunpowder weapons, also no gunpowder in the main campaign i think now i wanna make a review video lol so i can say all the crap about it that i want to but TLDR great features tons of good content very replayable, great DLC, modding scene is unparalleled, and the engine is the best one throughout the whole series can't change my mind, and i'm too young to have played it when it came out so its not really nostalgia, i think when i watched it three kingdoms had just come out, but i'll quit yapping
I am an unusual total war player as im only 20 and i first was introduced to total war through thrones of britannia .. i am very nostalgic about that game and i think its so so good purely based on nostalgia. So maybe this really is all nostalgia
I'll say the same thing I said last time, since the free cam mod came out it has given Medieval 2 that last little push it needed, it was one of the very few things I wanted from newer games and with it I honestly would rather play Medieval 2 than almost any other TW game with the exception of Attila which I also enjoy.
Empire will always be my goat:) the era has always been my favorite, but I'm leaning to medieval lately(playing 1212) but the kicker for me is having basically the whole world to play with.
Hello. I just got Medieval 2 and even though I have thousands of hours in more modern total war games, it's going to be an uphill battle for me to learn to control the camera and enjoy doing the most simple of things in it. It was more archaic than I thought
I didn't start with the older total war games I started with warhammer 2. My only issues with med 2 are city building, controls/camera and path finding. Also the delay to orders. A remaster or just getting med 3 would be great. The tuetonic campaign is my favorite but, I want them in the grand campaign lol. I am thinking of adding the kingdoms grand campaign mod so I can have every faction on the grand campaign map.
I'm new to total war games and am playing my first ever game (on sale on steam) Rome 2. As fun as it is, I keep seeing videos on Medieval 2 so I think I am going to pick that one up next and give it a go for the first time.
I put an immense amount of time in that game and it's one of my all time fav's but tbh I have a hard time coming back to it because of the aging battle/camera controls and other QoL stuff. I'm waiting for a remaster to get back into it, hopefully they don't fuck it up.
Nostalgia or not and despite some obvious issues, Medieval 2 is still an incredibly enjoyable game. Yes it's from a different age, with a different flair and approach to certain things, simple graphics & some gameplay issues but at it's purest form it delivers a mechanically engaging & at times challenging experience. When you add the Kingdoms expansions and all the hundreds of insane overhaul mods available for it it absolutely has to be the GOAT of Total War. What do you think? Let me know in the comments below!
Honestly, everything you said on the video represent a beautiful reminder when I grow up playing Toiil media evil 2
I have definitely bought the game in 2023 and am playing it in 2024 as well
what made me stop playing medieval 2 since i bought shogun 2 is the troop replenishment i prefer the automatic replenishment than the hassle to travel the unit to a castle to retrain
It may be a decent game, but it's certainly not perfect, and certainly isn't the best overall TW game like the blind fanboys say.
Medieval 2 settlement management system is amazing. No modern total war game can make me feel as connected to my realm and invested in it's development as medieval 2 does.
It's so much better than rome 2 building system, I hate that you can only build 2 or 3 buildings in a city, what kind of crap is that
Especially the roads and PORTS , with that roads and port visual effect that u get in the map when you upgrade them, caravans and ships roaminng the campaign makes its more lively.
The province system is one of the worst things to happen total war.
If you want to play optimally (which everyone does) you need to take these 2 or 3 cities. Instead of doing what you want, which is the point of the game.
@@IVIRnathanreilly I tried liberating such regions and making them my client states.
They end up sending full stack armies trough my entire empire, putting them to random far away regions and just waiting to betray me.
Very annoying
@@VinnieG- "it's called total war, not total peace". It's called total war but it's just a strategy game, that they're taking all the strategic decisions for mass appeal with WH. It's a joke.
My biggest thing is the sieges. If you destroyed their equipment they were screwed. Now every unit can basically climb over walls or destroy main gates completely. Very unrealistic.
yeah the torches really killed seige defense
You meant realistic? Like all the stuff is made from wood, and it was so suprising to me that it's really works and you can easily ignite the siege tower, or ram giving you a big advantage in defence
@@Вгостяхугеймера-м1к I think you’re confused
@@KingSnake420 Oh, yes. I read it differently, sorry
No it's necessary for the game to actually function.
I was born the year this game came out and had never heard of total war before 2022 and now in 2024 I have 1500 hours in the game. It isn’t just nostalgia the game is genuinely just quality.
My first TW and I still play it today without using mods.
Despite its age, it is good and deserves an update.
total war medieval 3 could be the best game in the series if they remember what they did for medieval 2 and build off it better instead of copying the engines they have in modern time, would be the biggest comeback for CA, but it 99% wouldn't happen, I hope project renaissance can come out and be the medieval 3 we want and need though
or empire 2 that's actually good and the whole world with naval combat coming back
I like medieval 2, especially on the strategic level, due to its different instruments of power: diplomatic, intelligence, military, economic etc.
A Medieval 3 with current AI technology, to allow for more realistic reactions on the different instruments of power, would be a hit!
A shame 2 handed, pikes and halberds suck without mods.
"Legends never die" even in 10y i'll still play this game
I was born in 2006, I was practically raised playing this game. No other war or strategy game can compare. It is a true masterpiece!
@@Valrether 04 right here and couldn't agree more
Nostalgic?
No.
I get into the total war franchise thanks to Warhammer 2, i loved the lizardmen trailer.
I even got warhammer 1 just for the Mortal empires Campaing.
My most loved DLC was about the Tomb kings, the first one WH2 had. all because of the Bone giants. At the beggining i was like " human vs human boring, fantasy races and giant entities SO COOL", i could never understand how people prefered the old games where every faction seemed the same.
Then, i tried Medieval 2 and i understood why, all the mechanics lost, the formations and coherence in battle lost, agents lost, it felt better in every way compared to Warhammer.
Feudal knights have more weight in their walk and sound than Skarbrand..
You can come and tell me "oh but medieval 2 has a bad camera", i don't care, it compensate with the rest.
I never in my life played a single total war game as a kid, my first one was WH2 (which i loved in his time) but now i can say that is not Nostalgia.
There's a modern camera mod for medieval 2. Also lord of the rings mods, and other's like Warhammer. Just letting you know 🙂
I am glad you confirmed this because I thought I was crazy for still playing this game after so many years. I started playing TW games with the first Rome game and Med2 was basically everything I loved but better. Not a single TW game came close to this level of enjoyment, the role playing potential etc. The simple cheat console that you can use for fun. The slower pace, the weight of it is just so much better then the newer games.
Attila was awesome and had so much potential but CA ruined that too so... it is what it is. I think I will legit play med 2 until I am like 50.
I also played my first TW Med 2 in 2020 in my mid 20s and by now I already have around 250 hours in it. The best one so far still hope one day we get remaster.
Your take is very valuable. It's painful to realize how far total war has fallen. Can you imagine a warhammer with as much care and love in it as medieval 2? Best selling game on the planet in strategy
@@mkNf-uk8py i have over 900 hours in Medieval 2. All of it in Lotr mods😂
Don't forget the dynamic Speeches generated based on the traits of your generals. Love them.
I think this and Empire were the best due to all the new mechanics they introduced in total war saga. The latest titles only focused in graphic improvementes and a few new mechanics.
Yeah those speeches are a nice touch.
my ideal game would be M2TW with parts of Empire added (researching new techs, more advanced trade and the sea battles).
The cowardly generals or insane generals had such excellent speeches
Oh shit we got speeches. I played the original medieval only to find it has a second one plus the lil generals can say speeches. I'm getting this shit
MTW2 is my most played TW game to date (after Rome I), mostly because of the modding scene. Some things are a bit buggy and the AI is annoying at times, but isn't that just most TW games? There isn't a better battle map TW out there in my opinion. The units have "weight", charges are impactful, and terrain/weather actually matter. These things should be standard in combat games that actually care about military tactics. Also gunpowder units with knights is a very fun variety of units to use. Plus the economic systems are simple enough to get the hang of, but not so simple you can ignore it. The mods fix a lot of issues with the game and give it a tremendous amount of depth. When I play newer TWs, I find myself just going back to MTW2 because the newer games are more restrictive and too easy, and the battles are absolute trash.
yea, the weight is so important. From Empire onward ubit clashes feel like paper toys.
Recently got my first PC thanks to my electrical gig. Medieval 2 was the first game I got on steam and its the only thing ive played so far, Im still on my first campaign taking my time and enjoying every minute playing and figuring out the game. I understand im a total war newbie atm and theres some things that are annoying sometimes, but in my opinion Medieval 2 is definitely not too old to be enjoyed. Its quickly becoming one of my favorite games ever and it came out in 2006, but thats just me.
None other title gives me this level of nostalgia. I remember the amazing online community of 2017 & 2018, a decade after release still vibrant, full of great people and still competitive. The epic 4v4 battles we fought, clan wars, sieges and all the incredible mods, people i will always think warm about. Thank you for this video!
The Divide and Conquer LOTR mod alone makes Med 2 peak total war
Medieval may have dated graphics but the gameplay and depth of many mechanics holds my interest far more than Warhammer. Having played hundreds of hours of Warhammer, I have grown bored of the rather shallow gameplay. Meanwhile I have been playing Med II (with and without mods) since I was a kid and it continues to hold my interest.
CA should have just made Medieval 2 with better graphics - and then Warhammer with the same style as Med2.
i doubt they will. They focus more on arcadey style and simple mechanics.
Grew up on Rome 1, then Medieval 2. It's the one Total war I keep coming back to. Nicely balanced game with tons of content. Rome 1 is great too, but Medieval 2 not having one overpowered faction like the Romans, is so much more inviting for me.
The ONLY thing, in what new total war BETTER, than Rome and Medieval2 - this is an infinite number of factions instead of rebels on half the map and no limit on 20+ factions and 200+ regions!
With the development of Engine Overhaul Project, that might change
I hope they launch the remaster like they did with the rome I.
Well, if they put in a lot more effort then yeah
It would be nice in the remaster if they included all the DLC factions on a big mega map and updated some of the various rosters. Like Russia for example. I realize it might not make sense to squeeze all of that into the campaign but certain factions or at least the ability for those factions to spawn out of events would be nice. Like the HRE can form the Teutonic order if they control X province. Or Norway can be formed once the danes conquer certain territory. Or Ireland. You get the idea.
I just hope that they keep the same UI. The Rome remaster has a mobile UI and it shows... I want to see the buildings I am building God damn it!
I preordered Rome remaster simply in the hope they'd do the same to medieval 2.
God, imagine the mods that could happen on a 64 bit Med2 that supports modern hardware and resolutions natively. Godly.
My only complains about Medieval 2 from a today's standpoint are pathfinding and some ai issues. And naval battles would be nice. But gameplay, factions, music, design... It's all perfect and timeless. Mixing Shogun 2 and Medieval 2 would make my ideal total war.
Darthmod work that out...probably other mods as well but I have experience with Darthmod and only played it that way.
I played Medieval 2 recently, the only thing I found annoying was manually having to select units to replenish. But that just me being lazy haha
You can use the "m" button to merge units.
I also hate the settlement system and recruiting system maybe if i play it more ill enjoy it but not my forte
I actually love the manual replenishment.
Merge units, the game will divide the experience accordingly.
Take your most experienced damaged unit of a kind, and use it to fill up the less experienced ones.
Then send the last few members of the experienced unit back to replenish in the castle.
I always imagined it like spreading out some veterans to the newbie troops sharing their knowledge; and sending the most experienced veterans home to get some deserved rest. :)
Medieval 2s UI and campaign map is the cleanest and easiest to use, I remember booting up Rome 2 and being behind lost with the map and the UI, I think the classic total war style suits the games so much better !
Either give us Medieval 3 TW, starting in 911 a.d. in the late Viking era and ending in the mid 16th century. Or a Medieval 2 remastered. Although I think if CA give us a remastered Medieval 2 and the modders get a hold of it, no one would buy another total war game ever again unless CA does something so innovative that it shadows over the previous games.
I don't understand why the devs insist with the current gameplay of Total War when fans obviously loved the old mechanic. Really, its an easy fix and probably much easier to just reskin the units with whatever time period they want, change/update the map, and improve graphics and AI.
They don't target us anymore as fantasy and simplistic mechanics makes more money for them. xD
@@CaelanCromwell This sentiment should be echoed louder. No more neanderthal consumer decisions!
@@CaelanCromwell That why pharaoh is a flop, and troy wasn't much better?
They were making money off warhammer fanboys and the west taiwanese, but as soon as they realized that in west taiwan they don't buy DLC they dropped 3K and then learned that it wasn't the Total War part that was selling the games.
I really hope that rumor that they are trying to make a Star Wars game is fake news, both SW and TW are completely dead on top of it being completely incompatible with the mechanics.
@@demomanchaos But it still has higher sales than rome 1 and medieval 2.
The old creators of medieval 2 are long gone. They were all fired way back 2013.
So the one who are creating this new total wars are dumbing down the old mechanics before.
@@CaelanCromwell Are you including ALL sales or just steam numbers, because like a very large portion of the player base I've got the old disc version. Note as well that one week after release pharaoh fell to 9th place as the most played TW, with half the players as M2 on just Steam (This isn't counting the disc players like myself which make up a very large chunk of the player base). Even Empire was ahead of Pharaoh.
I loved the video and I agree with everything you said. This game helped me through med school, and kept me sane. It will always have a special place in my heart. I own and still play all total war games (excluding Pharaoh) but here and then I come back to this masterpiece.
Unit retraining system instead of unit replenishment in each turn, gives this game more intense. Making you unconsciously pick which battle you want engage, carefully. And because of that, losing a battle or have a phyrric victory can be very annoying. Plus if you have special unit like Templar and Hospitaller Knights or some mercenaries like war elephant, you can only recruit and retraining in some specific area. This also gave spies or scouting unit more impactful role because you don't want to get ambushed by your enemy just after entering some random forest area.
I’d like a remaster but I’m starting to doubt that it’ll happen. Luckily we have EOP to break engine limits, and I’m curious if nVidia’s remix could be used to improve the graphics.
our hope
The Medieval Era is my favorite time period, especially the early Medieval Period. Medieval Total War and its many mods have provided me with many hours of enjoyment over the past twenty years, and I will continue to play for twenty more. At least! Thanks for highlighting this amazing game. Do you think that they will release a re-mastered version like they did for Rome I?
The warhammer mod for medieval 2 was more fun and satisfyingl(despite the glitches and jank) than the modern games are for me.
The new engines and game systems just feel lackluster compared to the weight of medieval and rome. The modern visuals dont make up for anything.
As someone who has played a LOT of medieval 2 i have to say that vanilla is quite bad (graphics etc), but mods on the other hand like tsardoms and stainless steel really make the game feel great even tho its nearly 20 years old
I prefered medieval 2 graphics over the Rome 2 graphics. Rome 2 faces look like actual monsters
I had been playing Rome 2 and Attila over the past 10 years and loved them. Attila brings the challenge and atmosphere, plus has great looking graphics and I liked the battles. Rome 2 however got waayyy too easy. Eventually I figured out that if I got 2 good full stacks and kept them together I could stomp anything with auto resolve and I ended up always auto resolving siege battles because I would get lower casualties that way, even though I could win them myself. I also HATED how you don't need siege equipment and any unit can throw torches to burn down a gate, that isn't realistic at all! So I realized after playing Attila how shallow Rome 2 was. But then... over the past year I reinstalled OG Rome and M2TW... and holy cow! they are better in every single way, accept some AI and graphics stuff, but that is not core to the experience. I am playing Europa Barbarorum 1 and Stainless Steel 6.4 and I am so much more immersed in these campaigns. I virtually NEVER auto resolve in these games, and that makes it better, TW battles are half the reason I love the games.
The #1 thing I have realized is that they completely destroyed the personality of your characters. I am having a million times more fun dealing with all the cool and interesting ancillaries and traits with characters than in the newer titles, they basically neutered the personality of the game. in newer games there really isn't much difference between one general and another, and there is zero personality difference in one general to another, they destroyed the role playing aspect for me.
and don't get me started on replenishment, the new system makes it far too easy to conquer a place, wait 3 turns to replenish, conquer next place, wait 2 turns to replenish, rinse and repeat. I say it is not nostalgia, it is depth and personality that make the older games better. I started on Rome 1 when I was a kid, but never actually played M2TW till I was a young adult.
You hit the main gripe I have with modern TW games: the traits and ancillaries aspect of MTW2 (introduced in earlier titles) was awesome!
To the new fledgling devs for CA watch this video and take notes. Its up to you to save Total War and CA as a company. No pressure 😂
Started playing Total War Rome looking for an age of empires like game. I quickly became totally invested in the game like no other game I'd play before. The absolute power you had to manage towns and control battles adhering to very realistic battle. Medieval II was the second total war game I played and in my opinion it was perfect. I put 900 hours into that game. The amount of creativity you can implement in your empire building is limitless. The only thing that really needed improvement was the AI and graphics but they scrapped imo a lot of the best features.
I really wish the "Man of the Hour" event caused a captain to become a general, without adopting him into the Royal Family. It should give you the option to adopt them into the Royal Family only if the character is a (non family tree) general.
I just discovered medavil 2 is availible on my ios is that same as the pc? Should i buy it i wan’t to know is that the exactly same like that one on pc as it is about 50 £ in my country please advice.
I am no Graphics guy. The only problem I have with M2 are the missing gameplay mechanics and diplomacy options. I would totally buy a medieval 2 remastered with Stainless Steel Graphics and Warhammer 3 gameplay, where every Faction plays different.
I’ve been meaning to sail the high seas and acquire this game. CA can suck a phat one if they think i’m paying 40$ for a decade old game that’s STILL somehow they’re best. Thanks for reminding me!
You can get it for 4.30 on g2a w all dlc
@@doma7956 lmao that’s what I did, being a pirate is hard
The biggest and most epic battles I've ever played were with this game! I'll never forget a defensive siege I saved from Gondor in Third Age TW. What a good time...😅
America is not a late game mechanic but an easter egg. The late game mechanic of Medieval 2 is basically the Mongols and Timurids. By the time you can discover the few extra regions you've usually won, unless you've only conservatively expanded your territory.
Very true about the M2 character traits. I lol'd more at some of those than at anything in gaming before or since.
Imagine Medieval 2 with Warhammer 3 graphics and engine/controls. Dream game.
In a recent non-gameplay video from Legend, he said the next actual big historical that his sources have told him is a world map set in the 18th century. Have anything on that?
Yes I just watched the video..obviously as he said "take it with a pinch of salt".. and probably wouldn't release until 2026.. but certainly something to hope for!
Yeah no take really. I think the possibilities are wide open now that CA is reaching a very new low. Who knows what's next
Would still love a remaster with better battle UI
Too old to enjoy? No way. I just reinstalled it again recently and i'm having a blast. I never played kingdoms back in the day so having all that and using a mod such as the 'Kingdoms Grand Campaign' mod which puts all those expansion factions in the main game is really awesome. And this time around i've learned to mod the game to an extent i never did before so tinkering with the troop rosters and factions, making new units, making more interesting rebel armys, better and more interesting mercenarys to hire ect, has all been a ton of fun. I do feel alot of nostalgia for the first one though, Medieval 1, ... the Joms vikings, Almohad urban militia, Trebizond archers ... it was all good stuff, and there was a cool Napoleonic mod for it which i loved and played endlessly. Shout out to Rome 1 also for being an awesome game ... spartan hoplites, night raiders and axe wielding scythian women, germanic heavy cav, urban cohort ... hell yeah.
This game has been with me for years, until now I still play it with the mod called SSHIP to spice things up a notch. I hope the creators will be creating M3TW soon. that would be a game I would by on release
My dad loved this game so damn much and played forever very late and after work before work. In days off he loved this! Rest in peace Richard William Harper IV. Sorry you had to do that!
Still my favorite TW title since released and played almost daily, along with Kingdoms, even now. Ha, I'm even trying to move the maps around with my cursor in this vid. It's built-in at this point. Great vid!
Simply we want re-mastered MTW2 or MTW3 that will stick to strategic features or even bring back so good features from MTW 1.
Medieval 2 is definitely not too old to enjoy. I played it for the first time last year and I got SO addicted to it. Medieval 2's presentation could be considered a little outdated, but other than that it's a blast.
I want a remaster of this game. Any chances?
would love to se a how to instal reshade and free camera mod so this game looks a bit more up to date.
I bought it a year ago and it was worth the 15 bucks for sure. The music is fantastic and some enjoyable moments playing the game but the battles don't compare to rome 2 or attila .
The americas campaign is highly underrated. We got so many different unique factions and mechanics that were vastly different from the other campaigns.
i'm still playing it. good games never die!!!!
I play medieval 2 at least once a week, I only played it for the first time about 2 years ago...and besides Rome 1 and its DLCs...I feel no reason to play any other total war games ... it just hits the right spot
I love that you mentioned planet war lol. I couldn't get enough of that mod and the map was absolutely huge!
I really liked the agents cutscenes
Still my favourite game of all time, not just total war. Still play it, still love it.
Is that really a question though ? We all know M2 was, is and always will be the goat. I replayed it in SS 6.4 as Jerusalem and as much as I like 1212AD it is nowhere compared to M2 in any domain except graphics which is not much.
I have really positive feelings toward Rome 1 (since I grew up playing it), however whenever I try to play Medieval 2 I just don't really stick with it. I have certainly picked up on the glaring issues of Rome 1 that are even there in the remaster, but I at least completed a couple short campaigns close to its release. If they ever revisit Medieval 2, I think it would need to me a full remake, since the pathfinding really drags the experience down in Rome 1 Remaster. If we could get that (or just Medieval 3) I would certainly take more of an interest.
Hey, Could you explain me, how guard mode works?
order your unit to attack the enemy but your unit won't pursue when the enemy retreats that's how it works
Okay@@kuskuskus1212
i still have it. the ability to mod it yourself and customise units was so cool. i used to maximise the unit sizes to max out the battlefield numbers.
For me it was the speeches and how the units showed on the battlefield when they were upgraded. Wishing for a Medieval 3 Total War.
Modded or unmodded it still feels great to play now, with the four expansion too, they all feel immersive and allow much freedom for the player to play however they want
I started the game only 1.5 years ago, it' snot nostalgia, 🐐
I love Med 2 more than my life, but bruh, Constantinople landlocked settlement. Who was cooking in CA ?
I've always found it crazy how the official review for this game was only a 7/10 by ing
Hi there,
Long time watcher first time commenter. Just like to say live total war and love your videos about them! Keep up the good work!
When I watch your videos like these I get nostalgic but would like to experience the game in the best way possible
Maybe a nice video idea (maybe you have already done this) could you make a video for each total war for what mods you would recommend to get the most out of the game? So no change mods but just improve mods to get the most out of the core game as possible.
My only issue with it is graphics. I would play in a heartbeat if it got remastered.
How did you not talk about the soundtrack ? The best in the series ?
Haha that is quite true. To be fair for me original Medieval is also the chef's kiss (as is Rome)
There are a few things that made me not enjoy MTW2 as much as I'd like. I hate that the AI cheats and they know when you empty a settlement even without having any spies there or LOS. And I hate that you can have a ton of armies around and you can't control them in battle, and only some of them actually join you in the battle, because their range is weird. Plus the ally AI is stupid.
Edit: And the Pope mechanic is cancer. :D
CA had it almost there with MTW2. They "just" had to solve the problems the community was reporting. I know it's not easy, but definitely easier than what they are doing...
The AI cheats? Dude in this game the AI gets the least cheats of any total war game since Rome Total War.
Having done S2 modding I can assure you the AI is a cheating bastard. They do not suffer "Resistance to Invaders" unrest penalties, never have to worry about the Realm Divide (Even if they take Kyoto), actually get more movement on the campaign map, upkeep isn't a problem for them, stat boosts in battle, pretty sure their agents/generals just magically level up even when not fighting/acting, and more.
The only thing that bothers the ever loving fuck out of me is the pathfinding absolutely shafting me and a couple bugged out units
Otherwise a 10/10
It’s my first total war & still the one I play by far the most.. It is goated. The battles are a good length and the change in elevation & terrain keeps every battle fresh and it’s not ridiculous to handle like the new total wars. Graphics are also very manageable to me still, wish they had limp bodies like Rome 2 but still all good.,, The settlement management is what separates it the most tho. The way you can build up each settlement is just way better than any other total war outside probably Rome at least in some aspects maybe., I love the city or castle element to the management side making so you have some settlements you set up as financial hubs and others as strongholds. But then you can separate armies like I can put literally a 1 man archer unit into some bushes for instance for a scout, a big army for an ambush , or a fort to block a bridge.. But if you don’t have a general they are much more likely to turn rebel too . Also you can rename settlements and just how each of your generals progress is so cool compared to other total wars where they level up compared to adapting to their unique circumstances. They can become so & so the terror or so & so the afriad lol all kinds of possibilities depending on how you use them and things out of your control being just chance of course. . So much customization as well as tiny details that other total wars aren’t even close too matching. Doubt they’ll ever make one that tops it. My personal fav & the others don’t even come close, only ones I play are Rome , Rome 2 & shogun 2
I hate they removed the Hotseat Campaign feature, was far more fun that it should be to play as every faction. Several times I've done the Britannia campaign as everyone, and it is impressive how overpowered England is. Unless everyone gangs up on them a decently run England is basically unstoppable.
I also cannot figure out why the crap they didn't keep the armor/weapon improvements actually changing the appearance of the units on the field.
Currently playing third age DAC lotr mod and it’s amazing
It can't be nostalgia. My first tw game was Rome 2, my second was Attila. And instead of playing those I'm playing M2TW because it's a thousand times better! 👌😎
Legendary game,i still remember playing this game when i was 15 now im almost 30years old and i still play sometimes.
Best total war game ever,bought Rome2 refunded after 2 hours of playing Mediveal2 is old but GOLD.
In my opinion its is superior to the Atilla medieval mods by a long shot.
I was a child when I first played this game. I grew up with this game, went to high school, finished my Bachelor's Degree, finished my Masters Degree, got a job, got married and am still playing MTW 😅. I will become a parent and will teach my kid to play the game. You can consider me a Grand Master of the game with 4000+ hours of gameplay.
Hey Terminator can you tell me what Attila mod u are using in the Video ? Superb Video by the way. Medieval 2 was also my childhood 😅
Where in the video are you referring to exactly? And thanks!
Are you talking about the 1212 mod he played in the begining? At least I think that was it
Med 2 had best combat, not single entitiy 1on1 combat and not the over the stop 'swing in general direction of enemy' of Warhammer and 3K. Units did an attack animations against a single target and they would either block or be hit, this allowed mutiple units to attack one target which mean defending your flanks was super important. Very elite heavily armed and expensive troops could be ganked if they got flanked and 3 guys piled onto the same person stunnlocking them. Combine that with acutal technolgoical improvements that had visual effects, how late game cities and castles were massive it just made things feel good.
Rome had way better cav phischyics imo i like rtw more for this a cav charge has impact in rome in medievil i feels like it just bounces off the enemy half the time
I won't deny I have nostalgia for Medieval 2, it blew my mind as a kid when I saw some vídeos of it and it is the first game I tried when I finally got an acceptable PC that could run it. However nostalgia can only carry something so far, there are other games I have nostalgia for that I realized aren't that good when playing them in more recent years, leaving them unfinished because I got bored. But this isn't the case with Medieval 2, I still play the game to this day and generally is my total war go-to when I want to start a campaign but don't know which one. Yeah nostalgia is a big factor, but so is good gameplay.
I play this game almost daily
i still prefer Rome 1 but both lovely indeed and non repeatable and stays for eternity
Things that drove me nuts about Medieval 2 when not using cheat codes was it seemed no matter how much money you took in, you were always broke and so it was a pain to go settlement by settlement to micromanage construction queues when they kept flip flopping from green to red to green. If you were playing as a Catholic faction, the Pope was always against you even when it was your guy you promoted to pope, and if you were the Holy Roman Empire, you were screwed with the Pope, the Mongols were so stupid OP they'd wipe you out no matter how many armies and tricks you'd try.
medieval 2 is my baby my child, its such a good game, i think the events are broken for me because the mongols haven't invaded, france and england didn't show up in americas, and i never got any new buildings as spain to get gunpowder weapons, also no gunpowder in the main campaign i think
now i wanna make a review video lol so i can say all the crap about it that i want to
but TLDR great features tons of good content very replayable, great DLC, modding scene is unparalleled, and the engine is the best one throughout the whole series can't change my mind, and i'm too young to have played it when it came out so its not really nostalgia, i think when i watched it three kingdoms had just come out, but i'll quit yapping
I agree! This mod is the 1492 of the total war games. a key moment which impacts others to impact it even more!
I am an unusual total war player as im only 20 and i first was introduced to total war through thrones of britannia .. i am very nostalgic about that game and i think its so so good purely based on nostalgia. So maybe this really is all nostalgia
Finding myself coming back to enoy this epic game once again
I'll say the same thing I said last time, since the free cam mod came out it has given Medieval 2 that last little push it needed, it was one of the very few things I wanted from newer games and with it I honestly would rather play Medieval 2 than almost any other TW game with the exception of Attila which I also enjoy.
Looks like M2TW will remain best of the best for a long time, considering latest news about more layoffs in CA...
Empire will always be my goat:) the era has always been my favorite, but I'm leaning to medieval lately(playing 1212) but the kicker for me is having basically the whole world to play with.
Hello. I just got Medieval 2 and even though I have thousands of hours in more modern total war games, it's going to be an uphill battle for me to learn to control the camera and enjoy doing the most simple of things in it. It was more archaic than I thought
I think it’s nostalgia. There’s obv. nothing wrong with that.
But my first TW was Attila and even just the controls for Med2 frustrated me.
I didn't start with the older total war games I started with warhammer 2. My only issues with med 2 are city building, controls/camera and path finding. Also the delay to orders. A remaster or just getting med 3 would be great. The tuetonic campaign is my favorite but, I want them in the grand campaign lol. I am thinking of adding the kingdoms grand campaign mod so I can have every faction on the grand campaign map.
The one thing I really like about warhammer is if you play with friends you take turns at the same time instead of one person waiting for 1 hour
Still playing it now, both the straight game kingdoms expansion and the mods
Is there a way to use asdw keys for camera control. That’s my biggest gripe with this game and I can’t seem to figure out how to fix it 🤣
Yea it’s in the settings. Look for camera forward, camera backward, and obv left and right.
You can set the controls to "FPS Style" but I also rebind a few other keys as well. With some keybind revision the camera really isn't an issue.
I'm new to total war games and am playing my first ever game (on sale on steam) Rome 2. As fun as it is, I keep seeing videos on Medieval 2 so I think I am going to pick that one up next and give it a go for the first time.
Dang talk about memories.. before cod or any other game . This was my day 1. Even though I always played with cheat codes . This game was everything 💔
I put an immense amount of time in that game and it's one of my all time fav's but tbh I have a hard time coming back to it because of the aging battle/camera controls and other QoL stuff. I'm waiting for a remaster to get back into it, hopefully they don't fuck it up.
only need a large mp campaign for med II
I've been playing this game for years and it never gets old. Every campaign is different. Imo best total war game they made.