What is scary is the city failed to come forward and say Marcus West was innocent after he died. They arrested an innocent black man and he died because of a so-called "identification program". They should've been doing their jobs properly.
The start of this storyline was a very good idea because it touched on the difficult subject of face recognition software but the execution of the episode was terrible. With West killed, it was bad, messy & not believable. It was the commissioner's fault anyway, he forced this software on Jay& didn't tell him about the error of the system, and then as a higher-up, he never paid the consequences, they pinned it all on Jay. Jay was also strangely isolated from the entire team in this epi (so you know it was forced writing for the sake of the plot points), which prevented him from maybe seeking more advice and cooling off, and Trudy pushed Jay further into believing West is guilty and to 'get the monster' - literally the words she said. The writers knew the real Jay would never act this way, so they had to force it with this sloppy writing. They started sacrificing the characters for the sake of the plot on this show, and that's where it went downhill. And it was season 7, so exactly the season when this show went downhill overall.
That unfortunately is reality, and it's not just a cop thing. You had too many high ranking people who would have been hurt by the admission, people under a lot of pressure to close that case, at a time when the system could not afford another embarrassment, vs the life of one guy who was a career loser right from the crib. It wasn't right, it wasn't fair, but there it is.
but it is real how the police system works in the US, so you have to appreciate this show's brutal honesty. No other American cop TV show portrays the reality so close to the facts and is brave enough to not sugarcoat it, to talk about taboo subjects and write about not just the heroic actions of the cops, but ugly reality too. and that's why I love it. But what I hate in this episode is how they did Jay dirty. Jay would never be that blindsided, and make an error such as this, so they cut him off the team in this episode basically, also, the superintendent, Trudy & Voight pushed Jay towards bad solutions, yet no higher-up paid the consequences, and Voight with his dirty games again. So I love the idea and how real it is, but I hate the execution and the writing of Jay because anyone who watches this show regularly knows that Jay would NEVER act this recklessly, with such a big tunnel vision. But on the other hand, what made things worse was the fact that West lied to Jay - so he muddied the waters and that's on him, and that was also a fatal mistake.
His family should have sued the city, instead they get stigmatised as the family of a child killer, and people are going to act like idiots and harass them for their whole lives, maybe worse
I hate and appreciate this episode at the same time. I like it because it is one of the most raw, the best episodes of Chicago PD ever, as it shows how the real police system works in the US, so you have to appreciate this show's brutal honesty. No other American TV cop show portrays the reality so close to the facts and is brave enough to not sugarcoat it, to talk about taboo subjects and write about not just the heroic actions of the cops, but ugly reality too. and that's why I love it. But what I hate in this episode is how they did Jay dirty. Jay would never make an error such as this, so they basically cut him off the team in this episode, also, the superintendent, Trudy & Voight pushed Jay towards bad solutions, yet no higher-up paid the consequences, and Voight with his dirty games again. So I love the idea and how real it is, but I hate the execution and the writing of Jay because anyone who watches this show regularly, as a fan, knows that Jay would NEVER act this recklessly, with such a big tunnel vision. But on the other hand, what made things worse was the fact that West lied to Jay - so he muddied the waters and that's on him, that was also a fatal mistake.
Bull Crap. Halstead was always a belligerent emotional train wreck who couldn’t keep his head together. Lonnie Rodiger who murdered a child in season 1. Garret the dealer who murdered a girl in season 6. Season 7 his need to be a hero got a woman beaten by her husband. Voight may not be a saint but Halstead wasn’t a white knight either.
@@SonicGlitchmaster1 While I get that he made his own situation worse, surely you're not implying that someone who has a lawyer and doesn't speak to the police would be free of danger?
The start of this storyline was a very good idea because it touched on the difficult subject of face recognition software but the execution of the episode was terrible. With West killed, it was bad, messy & not believable. It was the commissioner's fault anyway, he forced this software on Jay& didn't tell him about the error of the system, and then as a higher-up, he never paid the consequences, they pinned it all on Jay. Jay was also strangely isolated from the entire team in this epi (so you know it was forced writing for the sake of the plot points), which prevented him from maybe seeking more advice and cooling off, and Trudy pushed Jay further into believing West is guilty and to 'get the monster' - literally the words she said. The writers knew the real Jay would never act this way, so they had to force it with this sloppy writing. They started sacrificing the characters for the sake of the plot on this show, and that's where it went downhill. And it was season 7, so exactly the season when this show went downhill overall.
Just like real life, they violate dozens of laws and rights, knowingly put him in danger, don't come out to say he's innocent after they realize they literally just had him murdered, and cover the hole thing up. They decided he was less than a human and a worthy sacrifice for their "cause". Again just like real life.
r u being sarcastic because this IS like real life. there have been mass graves of "missing" black people killed by police uncovered in the last decade.
@@tankman1814 rights are given by governments, police are enforcers of government rules! If you dont agree with yr current government rules there are other countries!!
The start of this storyline was a very good idea because it touched on the difficult subject of face recognition software but the execution of the episode was terrible. With West killed, it was bad, messy & not believable. It was the commissioner's fault anyway, he forced this software on Jay& didn't tell him about the error of the system, and then as a higher-up, he never paid the consequences, they pinned it all on Jay. Jay was also strangely isolated from the entire team in this epi (so you know it was forced writing for the sake of the plot points), which prevented him from maybe seeking more advice and cooling off, and Trudy pushed Jay further into believing West is guilty and to 'get the monster' - literally the words she said. The writers knew the real Jay would never act this way, so they had to force it with this sloppy writing. They started sacrificing the characters for the sake of the plot on this show, and that's where it went downhill. And it was season 7, so exactly the season when this show went downhill overall.
Remember Kevin did that and the white cops turned against him volt wasn't really trying to hear that truth because he is black. When you look at the show it turns into racism volt not trying to hear Kevin. I can say because he is the only black person on the and the show is falling apart because of volt.
It’s a show and it’s fake I worked for the mourge for years cops would never carry dead bodies out they can’t touch the bodies the medical examiner needs to be there and they contact the mourge or funeral home and we pick up the bodies
I just started season one with my fiancé. I love this show and the storyline so far one thing I dislike replace that camera man or take him to a rehab. He’s doing too much coke & holding camera while shaking. Hope it gets better and season two.
The software is scary but what is predictable is the inevitable cover his ass actions of the senior officer who promoted it, probably got promoted for it and just walked away. And that it's going on right now, and the same thing will keep happening, is truly frightening for all of us, whatever race we are. Computers do not discriminate unless they are programmed to.
What good is a stretcher for a DOA? When you're dead at the scene, they cover and move you. What good would a stretcher do? Plus, stretchers are with paramedics. There are only police on scene. So assumedly, they expected no survivors so they never called for an ambo
@@NobleTeam99 every other time, in real life, on TV, and in footage of real events, they put the body on a stretcher covered up. Plus cops don't officiate deaths, that is a doctors job. An ambulance would be necessary
@@NobleTeam99 So in real life usually the paramedics have to treat the body as if they are still alive. So that means putting them on the stretcher so no evidence gets tampered with and transporting the body out. Plus carrying a body out by hand really hurts your back after a few months.
Ws really enjoy watching Chicago pd but when it jumps seasons it aint right.can we get all the seasons in the correct order and full length Episodes thanks Episodes
whats so sad about this episode is it highlights all those other episodes where the police blatantly exhibit empathy towards white suspects. even when the victims were minors. great writing.
What is the song called in the background. Poor jay he is blaming himself for the guys deathK(the one who got put in prison) he didnt expect that the guy would die. Feel bad for the kids parents seeing 2 police officers carrying 2 dead boys the kid that 3rd kid was lucky he didn't get killed as he was in the bathroom
He knew that it wasn't safe for him, he told him that, he could have put him in protective custody buy he just didnt care because he thought he was guilty anyway. In the end, his death woild be in conscience forever
I dont ever watch any of these police drama but this is good only disappointment was bringing those 2 from the other fake acting show with ICE T and blonde girl thats the type of program thats far fetched
The mother's cry at the beginning is so heartbreaking 💔
What is scary is the city failed to come forward and say Marcus West was innocent after he died. They arrested an innocent black man and he died because of a so-called "identification program". They should've been doing their jobs properly.
The start of this storyline was a very good idea because it touched on the difficult subject of face recognition software but the execution of the episode was terrible. With West killed, it was bad, messy & not believable. It was the commissioner's fault anyway, he forced this software on Jay& didn't tell him about the error of the system, and then as a higher-up, he never paid the consequences, they pinned it all on Jay. Jay was also strangely isolated from the entire team in this epi (so you know it was forced writing for the sake of the plot points), which prevented him from maybe seeking more advice and cooling off, and Trudy pushed Jay further into believing West is guilty and to 'get the monster' - literally the words she said. The writers knew the real Jay would never act this way, so they had to force it with this sloppy writing. They started sacrificing the characters for the sake of the plot on this show, and that's where it went downhill. And it was season 7, so exactly the season when this show went downhill overall.
That unfortunately is reality, and it's not just a cop thing. You had too many high ranking people who would have been hurt by the admission, people under a lot of pressure to close that case, at a time when the system could not afford another embarrassment, vs the life of one guy who was a career loser right from the crib. It wasn't right, it wasn't fair, but there it is.
but it is real how the police system works in the US, so you have to appreciate this show's brutal honesty. No other American cop TV show portrays the reality so close to the facts and is brave enough to not sugarcoat it, to talk about taboo subjects and write about not just the heroic actions of the cops, but ugly reality too. and that's why I love it. But what I hate in this episode is how they did Jay dirty. Jay would never be that blindsided, and make an error such as this, so they cut him off the team in this episode basically, also, the superintendent, Trudy & Voight pushed Jay towards bad solutions, yet no higher-up paid the consequences, and Voight with his dirty games again. So I love the idea and how real it is, but I hate the execution and the writing of Jay because anyone who watches this show regularly knows that Jay would NEVER act this recklessly, with such a big tunnel vision. But on the other hand, what made things worse was the fact that West lied to Jay - so he muddied the waters and that's on him, and that was also a fatal mistake.
you can thank Voight for this - it was his idea.
His family should have sued the city, instead they get stigmatised as the family of a child killer, and people are going to act like idiots and harass them for their whole lives, maybe worse
I hate and appreciate this episode at the same time. I like it because it is one of the most raw, the best episodes of Chicago PD ever, as it shows how the real police system works in the US, so you have to appreciate this show's brutal honesty. No other American TV cop show portrays the reality so close to the facts and is brave enough to not sugarcoat it, to talk about taboo subjects and write about not just the heroic actions of the cops, but ugly reality too. and that's why I love it. But what I hate in this episode is how they did Jay dirty. Jay would never make an error such as this, so they basically cut him off the team in this episode, also, the superintendent, Trudy & Voight pushed Jay towards bad solutions, yet no higher-up paid the consequences, and Voight with his dirty games again. So I love the idea and how real it is, but I hate the execution and the writing of Jay because anyone who watches this show regularly, as a fan, knows that Jay would NEVER act this recklessly, with such a big tunnel vision. But on the other hand, what made things worse was the fact that West lied to Jay - so he muddied the waters and that's on him, that was also a fatal mistake.
Bull Crap. Halstead was always a belligerent emotional train wreck who couldn’t keep his head together. Lonnie Rodiger who murdered a child in season 1. Garret the dealer who murdered a girl in season 6. Season 7 his need to be a hero got a woman beaten by her husband. Voight may not be a saint but Halstead wasn’t a white knight either.
Thank god this is a fictional story and the justice system is infallible. Right, fellas?
(I live in fear of being falsely accused)
If you avoid certain things and times and places and use your speech well and make good decisions usually you will be fine.
@@maxsiemens304not even that can save you..😢 hard being black here
Yeah in real life you would get a lawyer and not speak to the police at all like you’re supposed to. That way stuff like this won’t happen to you
@@SonicGlitchmaster1 While I get that he made his own situation worse, surely you're not implying that someone who has a lawyer and doesn't speak to the police would be free of danger?
Got the wrong guy and got him killed.
The start of this storyline was a very good idea because it touched on the difficult subject of face recognition software but the execution of the episode was terrible. With West killed, it was bad, messy & not believable. It was the commissioner's fault anyway, he forced this software on Jay& didn't tell him about the error of the system, and then as a higher-up, he never paid the consequences, they pinned it all on Jay. Jay was also strangely isolated from the entire team in this epi (so you know it was forced writing for the sake of the plot points), which prevented him from maybe seeking more advice and cooling off, and Trudy pushed Jay further into believing West is guilty and to 'get the monster' - literally the words she said. The writers knew the real Jay would never act this way, so they had to force it with this sloppy writing. They started sacrificing the characters for the sake of the plot on this show, and that's where it went downhill. And it was season 7, so exactly the season when this show went downhill overall.
He's not dead. . . . This is a TV Show
@@jamedlock83 He's dead in the TV show!
@@jamedlock83smooth brain moment
Just like real life, they violate dozens of laws and rights, knowingly put him in danger, don't come out to say he's innocent after they realize they literally just had him murdered, and cover the hole thing up. They decided he was less than a human and a worthy sacrifice for their "cause". Again just like real life.
guess you dont like the show
r u being sarcastic because this IS like real life. there have been mass graves of "missing" black people killed by police uncovered in the last decade.
Well, I am pro law you do whatever it takes to get justice for the victims families that’s all that matters
Why don’t you do something about them violating rights in real life instead of blabbering about it on UA-cam.
@@tankman1814 rights are given by governments, police are enforcers of government rules! If you dont agree with yr current government rules there are other countries!!
No one should be attacked in prison. Especially when they haven't been convicted of anything yet. The prison system is a disaster.
Guards claim there’s only so much they can do
The start of this storyline was a very good idea because it touched on the difficult subject of face recognition software but the execution of the episode was terrible. With West killed, it was bad, messy & not believable. It was the commissioner's fault anyway, he forced this software on Jay& didn't tell him about the error of the system, and then as a higher-up, he never paid the consequences, they pinned it all on Jay. Jay was also strangely isolated from the entire team in this epi (so you know it was forced writing for the sake of the plot points), which prevented him from maybe seeking more advice and cooling off, and Trudy pushed Jay further into believing West is guilty and to 'get the monster' - literally the words she said. The writers knew the real Jay would never act this way, so they had to force it with this sloppy writing. They started sacrificing the characters for the sake of the plot on this show, and that's where it went downhill. And it was season 7, so exactly the season when this show went downhill overall.
It's times like these where I want to take a stand and speak up.
Remember Kevin did that and the white cops turned against him volt wasn't really trying to hear that truth because he is black. When you look at the show it turns into racism volt not trying to hear Kevin. I can say because he is the only black person on the and the show is falling apart because of volt.
I really don't like how they just carried the children out in a white body bag with no care whatsoever
It’s a show and it’s fake I worked for the mourge for years cops would never carry dead bodies out they can’t touch the bodies the medical examiner needs to be there and they contact the mourge or funeral home and we pick up the bodies
Exactly no respect
so many people filming with their smartphones when the dead kids were brought out
0:02 sobbing
this is scary, not the killed kids that sucks, the software is
What do you mean? The way it’s shot?
its already been shown to not work especially on POC’s faces. yet police departments across the country continue to use it.
@@vettech_POC?? Public Order Crimes?
I just started season one with my fiancé. I love this show and the storyline so far one thing I dislike replace that camera man or take him to a rehab. He’s doing too much coke & holding camera while shaking. Hope it gets better and season two.
Trust a computer or trust your human instincts
The software is scary but what is predictable is the inevitable cover his ass actions of the senior officer who promoted it, probably got promoted for it and just walked away. And that it's going on right now, and the same thing will keep happening, is truly frightening for all of us, whatever race we are. Computers do not discriminate unless they are programmed to.
If you watch the episode you find out that the "ID" system doesn't work well on black people and the accuracy gets wkrs3 for each shade darker.
Even technology can be racist
humans are the ones projecting it and starting the data base, so the problem is not technology but human beings
Shouldn't they be carrying them out on strechers?
Was thinking the same thing
More dramatic
What good is a stretcher for a DOA? When you're dead at the scene, they cover and move you. What good would a stretcher do?
Plus, stretchers are with paramedics. There are only police on scene. So assumedly, they expected no survivors so they never called for an ambo
@@NobleTeam99 every other time, in real life, on TV, and in footage of real events, they put the body on a stretcher covered up. Plus cops don't officiate deaths, that is a doctors job. An ambulance would be necessary
@@NobleTeam99 So in real life usually the paramedics have to treat the body as if they are still alive. So that means putting them on the stretcher so no evidence gets tampered with and transporting the body out. Plus carrying a body out by hand really hurts your back after a few months.
This show make me more convinced of corruption in the PD.
Ws really enjoy watching Chicago pd but when it jumps seasons it aint right.can we get all the seasons in the correct order and full length
Episodes thanks
Episodes
That's one way for me to Chicago PD. I love you Chicago PD ❤❤❤
3:32 isn’t that Celina from the rookie?
yes but this was before she joined the rookie
whats so sad about this episode is it highlights all those other episodes where the police blatantly exhibit empathy towards white suspects. even when the victims were minors.
great writing.
colour not relevant
@@unit0033 lol ok
They arrested the wrong guy but in doing so they signed his death warrant
Which season and episode is this??
s7 ep6
Is this a new or old episode?
S7 E6 so it’s old.
…..is there no justice~?😢
What this episode and season
S7 ep6
am i tripping or did he start freestyling at 0:33
Nah you good he was freestyling
Add some sick music in and you’re good 😂
Dude just randomly dropping bars mid conversation fr
This episode made me quit Chicago p.d.
O'Connell Manors
Doyle Camp
What is the song called in the background. Poor jay he is blaming himself for the guys deathK(the one who got put in prison) he didnt expect that the guy would die. Feel bad for the kids parents seeing 2 police officers carrying 2 dead boys the kid that 3rd kid was lucky he didn't get killed as he was in the bathroom
He knew that it wasn't safe for him, he told him that, he could have put him in protective custody buy he just didnt care because he thought he was guilty anyway. In the end, his death woild be in conscience forever
Christina 14
I’m scared to go to sleep and sleep
Hashtag what the help
Upton Loaf
What?
I dont ever watch any of these police drama but this is good only disappointment was bringing those 2 from the other fake acting show with ICE T and blonde girl thats the type of program thats far fetched
Of course, he's black:D