We fixed the only issue with the Moccamaster...
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Well, here we go inventing things. Basically, we have always had an issue with the shower head design on the MM - it has always still driven us to agitate our brew throughout - and I think we have done a great job in fixing that.
Again, this is a prototype - and it'll be stainless steel at the end of the day, but we wanted to get something out so that enthusiasts and nerds alike could provide us with some functional feedback.
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These opinions are solely from Coffeehaus and in no way shape or form represent those expressed by moccamaster.
I added a pre-order link for the prototypes in the description.
Hi, do U have sth similar works with MOCCAMASTER Cup-One ?
Is the stainless steel version available
Is the stainless steel version available
Just making sure the shipped version is the half inch longer version?
I’d be interested in the final stainless steel version when available
It's been a year. Some respect for costumers with an update?
I would for sure buy a final version of this. This is my ONLY complaint about the moccamaster. Will you make a custom brew basket cover that fits this, too, or planning to leave this as an open design?
I have the same question🙂
I will 100% buy the production, steel version of this. Hope it comes soon as I just finally picked up a moccamaster after years of contemplating it
I’m buying a used one off eBay with some missing accessories. How do you like it so far? I’ve only used a moka pot for years
@@the-enders it's excellent, I use it every morning - My suggestion is to allow the brew basket to fill up just above the grounds, give it a quick stir then put the carafe underneath to allow it to drain. Still waiting for the production version of this showerhead to be released but in the meantime, stirring gives a similar effect. I definitely notice a different taste if I forget to stir or not allow the grounds to saturate before adding the carafe. Hope this helps!
What happened to your fix??? No one from this company ever answers questions messaged to them!
Good idea. Will buy one when it's made out of a material that I consider food safe. There's no way I would drink even one cup out of the 3D printed version.
Damn this was the only reason why I was hesitating from buying a moccamaster and looking to make a 3D printed shower head. Can't wait!
Just wondering if you’ve sold any of your new design water brew heads? It’s been in the pre order state on your web site over a year
Coffeepilotparts out of Canada already has a production fix for this. Its just a dispersion cover for the basket. Much simpler and importantly, it actually exists
I'm sure that the steel version will be heavier, especially at the shower head end. If it end up being too heavy and causing imbalance and losing seal around the tube, possibly a simple cross shape will help to increase basket coverage while decreasing mass and weight of a conventional round head. Flow can probably be evened out with variable hole sizing to promote water distribution to other areas.
Titanium.
This is very exciting to me as I just purchased the Technivorm Moccamaster 79112 KBT this afternoon! My sister-in-law has one, too, so I will purchase two of these the minute they become available. Congratulations!
Better Coffee through better brewing, nice job guys!
You’ve subsequently created the
Moccamaster 2.0. Simple yet so brilliant. Clever work.
Just got a KBGV and I can't wait for the final version of this!
Did MoccaMaster put on stop on this? No updates after a year?
If you put this to market I will absolutely buy one I think the shower head opening so you can clean the back of the holes is a must have in my opinion
I love your idea with the adjustments mentioned. I do think you need to add the lid as well. Excess steam can be hard on the cabinets above.
The heat loss is also significant.
This is an exciting and long overdue modification. Many of us Moccamaster users appreciate your time and effort.
I have a few questions:
1) Is the prototype material safe especially after near boiling water passes throught it?
2) Have you tested the water temp exiting the stainless steel version of your new showerhead?
3) Does the increased weight of the stainless steel affect the seal and stability of the showerhead at the joint where it attaches?
4) Have you considered a redesigned basket lid that fits over the new showerhead for aesthetic and heat retention concerns?
Many thanks!
I noticed right away seeing video of the OEM sprayhead in operation that it was obviously not an optimal design, being too narrow and not centered over filter. I don't understand how they can have such a high quality machine in every other respect but overlook this obvious design flaw, and by reports, actual functional deficit.
I don't know if it's true or not, but I've read Technivorm has resisted redesigning the showerhead out of fear they may lose their SCA and ECBC certifications.
@@alpsskiman They did redesign it slightly a few years ago, adding a couple more holes and putting mounds around the opening of the holes, but it doesn't address the main problem. Customer service seems to be in denial about the need for improvement. I have been using the CoffeePilot spray head that sits on top of the coffee filter basket. I have the Select version, and brewing 6 tablespoons of beans with the water level on the machine set to half a carafe, which slows the brewing down, with the spray head in place, I keep the carafe out for 40 seconds to allow the water to build up in the grinds and the basket, and then put the carafe back in place to allowed it to drain normally. With the correct grind, this works quite well for me.
@@fredbloggs6080 You are correct. I did buy the latest version of this showerhead for my Moccamaster. It's a slight improvement over the previous version. I was referring to a complete redesign of the showerhead that more thoroughly saturates the grounds.
@@alpsskiman I know what you mean. I don't know why if they went to the trouble of retooling for that new shower head why they didn't do a full redesign, unless they were afraid it would negatively affect some parameters, but they could always offer it as an option. I think the CoffePilot shower head insert I mentioned works brilliantly to achieve the same effect.
I don't know what the status of the spray arm and shower head in this video is because there have been no responses or updates about it being produced in its final form.
You can put me down for two, one in CO and one in AZ, as soon as you have them in stainless (or chrome plate). Another thing one buys when spending $300 on a coffee maker is the aesthetic of the industrial design. The less one is asked to compromise on that aesthetic, the more likely one will be to purchase your improved distributor design. Nice work.
My new MM Select arrives tomorrow. What an outstanding idea. Sign me up ..
I don’t see why this shower head can’t completely cover the area under it? Is there a reason why grounds should be exposed if no stirring is intended?
Your website is outdated from back in February. Is the stainless steel arm in full production now? And is this to be only used with out the basket cover?
Thank you for making a more laid back coffee channel.
Oh dang!
I’ll buy one.
I can do some testing and or some media/video as well. Feedback as well, I have a Moccamaster and have used it for a few years now.
More even extractions, able to grind finer, higher EY&TDS. 👏🏾
Wow, I’d 100% buy. Keep us updated when it’s available.
That is about the only improvement that could be made to MM, Kudos!!!
How is this idea coming along? I'd love to buy the stainless steel version!
Excellent work. Elegant design. Stainless steel indeed but I’d have the outside of the arm be coated in black to balance out the color of the entire machine. I feel like the polished chrome of the existing arm ages the look. Opens you up for color options for the arm in the future as well. Tight.
Excellent! The shape looks similar to the brew head on the Brim coffee maker. I’m interested in buying one once it’s made in stainless steel.
Ordered my first Moccamaster last night, and stumbled upon this video while in search of recipes… subbed to your channel, and will be ordering one of these! Very cool stuff, thank you.
This video is a bit disapointing. Very little viewing of the water hitting the grinds throught the process. Was the water coming out of all the holes or just the ones closest to the neck of the disperser? There is not a lot of water coming out of each pulse cycle so I am not sure if there is enough to cover all 17 holes. Using paper filters instead of a gold one decreases the water flow allowing for a bit more soaking time for the grinds. I just bought a Mocamaster and when brewing a full pot with the flow switch set correctly, all the grounds get soaked no issue. I did not see a comment on if this plastic shower head is BPA free.
Great idea, definitely would purchase
@coffeehaus have you considered a plate that is on top of the basket instead of modifying the the arm itself?
Need a stainless basket option to go with!!
I was just about to buy the Mocha Master because of the thermal double walled carafe.
Awesome idea! I've been on the fence between purchasing the Moccamaster and 2 other drip brewers for a couple of months.
Your innovation solves the biggest issue I have with the moccamaster. Thank you! I will go ahead and purchase the moccamaster and your drip spout! Research on new coffee maker, done. :)
We placed an order in December 2023 , it’s now July 2024 haven’t received a thing, & you guys never respond to to e-mails or ANY communication
I love the concept. The reason I went with Moccamaster was to eliminate the plastic taste from coffee made with machines that have mostly plastic in the hottest part of the brew cycle. The copper element to glass riser tube to metal spout mostly eliminates this (other than the basket.) What do others think?
I think that being able to take the head apart for cleaning is important. I'm on board.
I'll take the final version. Love to have it. Does need to be centered in the middle of the coffee..... but looking forward to getting a taste of the new brew.
Can you guys also make one for the Cup One?
I actually looks like it could still accomodate the lid as the disk portion drops below square arm portion, can you confirm?
I wonder if you could make a, I suppose, plastic attachment that simply plugged into the holes of the existing spray arm and redistributed them in a similar pattern to shower head you designed. It would make it a little lower and maybe not so elegant looking, but...
I'd definitely give this a try!
What is the ETA on the stainless version of this? Will you provide a 3D print file for the prototype?
I ordered this back in January. Is this still a thing?
Did you consider making a replacement for the lid on the dripper instead? That could be made in plastic and I imagine that would be simpler and cheaper to manufacture, but should enable similar results.
Can you share with us whether or not the container that holds the water, can it be turned 180 degrees? In other words, to make it where the fill lines are on the opposite side they are on now. Reason is, we wish that the switches were on the other side too. It would work much better for us. They don't make that, but maybe we could flip the container around. i Also, it seems that we could cut a lot of the power cord off easily enough, by opening the bottom of the machine. My plus 6" from the maker. Don't need but say 10" max. Thanks for your inventions and channel. It's great.
Would the plastic version have better thermals over a stainless steel one? Another concern is getting the water hot enough for light roast coffee.
The stainless steel one might need pre heating for lighter roasts
So... here's one that I've not thought about. What about a version of this for the one cup version? That is so many different levels of worse than the big ones.
Great idea, does it drop the water temp? Cause that is a lot of holes and opportunity for heat to escape. Thanks, :)
And the drip basket cover will no longer fit.
How cool! This is the ONLY thing that I think is a flaw in that pot. Can’t wait to see these for sale!
It was surprising to make my first pot of coffee in the new moccamaster and realize how poorly water was dispersed from the brew arm. I had just ordered a replacement arm to tinker with when it occurred to me I couldn't be the only one with the same concern and landed here. While I think there are a couple of simple tweaks to be made (1. Longer arm than shown for sure. It's one of the short comings of the OEM. 2. The screw off spray/dispersion face mentioned would allow optional patterns / hole size and easy cleaning.) I just ordered a prototype to support the cause. A quick update....No word on the prototype shipping yet, but the OEM replacement arm arrived. I used an ice pick to tweak the alignment of the spray holes and was able to improve the dispersion a bit, particularly in shooting further across the basket, less so laterally, which makes sense given the direction of flow. I'm sure the replacement arm will be an improvement over this, but it's simple tweak I would recommend to anyone for marginal gains. Cheers.
Can you describe your tweak in a little more detail? I'm considering ordering a spare arm and 'modding' it a bit.
If it was stainless steel I would buy. One reason to buy the MM coffee makers is the limitation of contact between hot water and plastic. 🤗
Has anyone gotten theirs? Thoughts?
Not received mine. Nor has Coffeehaus responded to my inquiries - nothing. At some point I'll let my credit card take on the issue.
Any updates on the stainless version? I just visited your site and the product page hasn’t been updated in a while. Would love to buy one. Thanks!
Truly think this guy is a rip off. Has our money and has no updates.
@@michaeldeckert6023 Ugh, that’s disappointing to hear. Hope you get what you paid for sooner rather than later.
i ordered one of these shower heads a long time ago and have yet to see it. Great concept , Poor execution.
Wow, they took your money but never shipped you one?
@@tomy2988 correct...I have yet to receive the product
"I get 100 emails a day asking about this ......." If that's the case, I wonder how many other people got screwed out of their money. Sorry that happened to you. @@baronofgreymatter14
Same@@baronofgreymatter14 With zero communication.
We are still working on these pretty diligently. Shoot us an email support@coffeeha.us if you have any questions
The arm should be a little longer to center the hea. Also, the head diameter should be large enough to reach the edge of the filter. Stainless steel or glass would be nice.
A thought inside the shower head ; is very similar to the Bodum Bistro pour over machine they have same shower head concept, with 3 v ends inside to make sure the water does distribute more evenly throughout the head.
Year and a half and still pre order????
We’ve got a good update coming out this week!
@@Coffeehauswhatever happened to this update
The exact reason why I bought the Bonavita over the Technivorm was because of the better spray head. If you guys end up selling this in stainless steel, I will TOTALLY bought it along with Technivorm.
I’ve had two bonavitas die on me over the last 4-5 years. Great coffee maker in general or so I thought until I bought a technivorm, very surprised at how smooth and flavorful it makes all coffee vs the Bonavita. Compared, the Bonavita tastes harsh
Nice job. Finally! Makes so much sense. Can't wait to receive mine.PSYCHED!!!
Suggestion: slightly larger shower head to have the outer holes drip near the edges. Fewer holes an inch from the center. This will facilitate better water distribution across the entire coffee basket. Again, great job. I want the stainless steel one!!! 👍
I would definitely buy! Thank you!
Absolutely genius!
Will you make one or the Cup One? It has a single spout outlet arm, so it doesn't do the best of jobs dispersing the water.
Would absolutely order! Love what you guys do
I want one.
3 questions
What was the wattage/temp on the older version on the low burner setting ?
What was the wattage/temp on the old version on high burner setting ?
Since the new version switch has half pot/full pot, I’m assuming the wattage/temp of the burner is always the same, what is it ?
Please put me on your wait list for this unique brew arm😊
I’m glad YT suggested this vid. There’s a guy in Australia that makes a round shower head out of stainless steel but I think it’s cost prohibitive.
Where can I see the video?
I am considering buying a moccamaster and this has always been my problem. I am interested. Out of curiosity, with no pre-infusion on moccamaster do people find that to be a problem? I ask since other machines have it. Also, how close are you to stainless since I only see original on your website?
Hi. Does this coffee maker make tastier coffee than the Cuisinart pour over/precision maker?
I have one question in regards to my Moccamaster coffee brewer. Why does it keep shutting off and turning back on every few seconds while brewing my coffee.
I was actually working/designing a Stainless steel version of this, but had issues with connecting to the glass tube. What kind of plastic did you use? Does it ‘off gas’ anything dangerous? * good job!!
I think a fully transparent plastic (perhaps the same plastic as the water resevoir) would be cool - it’d match the aesthetic, and you could see the water move through it the same way it bubbles up through the centre of the reservoir when it boils.
it wouldn't hold up overtime when calcium deposits build up. Being a visible part it might actuall detract at a certain point. This would be more easily remedied by extending the glass pipe that is fed by the heater towards the rubber gasket that holds the showerhead in place. This however is too brittle a material at such a critical point in the machine. What must also be considered is that this showerhead won't dry easily and could be a point for bacteria to accumilate if the machine is not properly taken care of. That said, i'd love a fully transparent machine for similar reasons.
Please clarify: MM brews to 205 degrees F, but you say the plastic brew arm can withstand up to 150 degrees F? Is that correct? I ordered anyway, but just curious as to whether I'm living on the edge.
Up to 150 degrees C. Which is 300F. Way hotter than any brew or dishwasher.
I've played with making a showerhead for one, but just curiosity. Have you considered (or have a design) for a "blank" that one can drill their own holes into to experiment with hole sizes? Also with the MM I feel like the brew bed itself ends up shaped a little differently than a cone or flat brewer would be, and think it might be worth playing with an oval shaped shower head or rectangular one or a hole pattern that does
Ordered this a year ago. Any updates?
Where has this product gone?
Any update on the prototype? This was posted a year ago. Is the pre order still active?
SCAM ALERT. Took my money. No product, no response, no refund. I've contacted my CC company
Phenomenal
It’s been over a year, any updates?
When will the final version be available for purchase?
I also want to know!
Truly believe This guy is a rip off and has our money. He puts up no updates and there is no phone number to find out what is happening. They answer no emails. Amazing to me that they can get away with selling mocha Masters with no phone number. I wouldn't buy from them with no contact. My mistake for sending my money in in at least them not updating
@@michaeldeckert6023 yeah. I don’t think he initially meant to scam anyone, however my guess is once he talked to manufacturers and got quotes for making the stainless steel versions, he realized they were too expensive to produce. Just my guess though.
E actly what one wants, more hot water going through plastic. As beautiful as these machines are, water, especially HOT water leachs chemicals from plastic, that goes into your beverage, and thus your body.
Do you have a showerhead for the MM Cup-One? I have been looking for something like this for their single cup system.
How fine is the coffee grounds? Would you go expresso fine?
Did y’all give up on this, or are y’all still planning on releasing?
Still working on it!!!
@@Coffeehaus When will it be shipped?
Concerned about the difference in the temperature when it actually comes out of the “9 hole”, verses the “cylinder. I would think that much surface area in the “cylinder” would decrease the water temperature right before it hits the coffee grounds. Definitely stainless, definitely make the neck longer, extra gasket on other end and screw on head as well. The screw on head stainless as well.
Temp tests show no difference in water temp out of the shower head, and an increased water temp on a “cold brew” (where the metal is room temp)
Agree to all of your points and those will all be there!
WOW! I am about to send my Moccamaster back for the very reason the brew arm does not fully "shower" the grounds - a huge flaw that my Cuisinart with its "showerhead" brew head (integrated in the lid) wets the grounds completely - making a great cup of coffee compared to the terribly weak (IMO) result from the M'master. You guys have come up with THE solution - and adding about 1/2" to the new stainless version will put the shower head smack dab in the middle of the brew basket. HOWEVER, a concern might be that the longer and heavier stainless arm (the printed plastic one is probably lighter than the stock arm) will SAG, so it may need a tab on the bottom that will allow it to rest on the edge of the water container to prevent sagging. THOUGHTS? Thanks for the great idea! - LongJnSilver in "Historic Hendersonville" NC
I'll grab one. Good job. My home made versions don't work very well
Anyone know a quick fix to the middle setting not pouring? Thanks
Pls post an update, when the final products is available.
What is the type of 3D printed material you used for the prototype?
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i would love these if it was steel, still has to fit the aesthetic... but really love the idea!
Hope economies of scale works out to get us something closer to $20. My only concern would be that doubling the holes and keeping the same diameter would too strongly reduce the flow per hole... so maybe tigheting that up by 20%, 30%, 15% would be a good idea. But I might be missing something, like cleaning/descaling or the best size of a water drop for agitation. Thank you for being thoughtful and taking the risk of entrepreneurship. I know that isn't easy, and it's hard to iterate.
This is why we test! Thank you for the feedback. Looking forward to lots… and lots of testing
@@Coffeehaus when will the stainless steel be on sale I will definitely buy it
Very cool mod. Can you fix the carafe? I have to poor so slow or its a mess!
Does this fit the KBGT? I see on the website you list only for the KBGV.