If you want a cheaper Moccamaster I suggested buying a refurbished Moccamaster. I got one direct from Moccamaster for $210 which is a bit more but in the same range as this cheap copy
Then you have a $250 coffee maker with a 1-year warranty-bc they only warranty refurbished units for 12 months. I guess they don’t have much faith in them.
Ultimately it comes down to the taste of the coffee. Would have liked to see you new a pot from each and then have 3 or 4 people taste each and give ratings of the taste / temp of the coffee brewed!!!
I really enjoy the coffee my moccamaster makes. It took some definite trial and error to get there. That point aside what I really love about my moccamaster is the fact that mine took a tumble off the counter and my water reservoir broke, I reached out to technivorm and they got back to me within a day on how to send the brewer to them to be fixed. Not only that, but when I called with a few questions about the repair and costs, I spoke to the person who processed my service order. From the time I sent them my coffee maker to the time I got it back, it was less than two weeks. I have never in my life had such good customer service. I was super happy that, given the cost of the coffee maker, I was able to have it repaired and that it was a very easy process. I would gladly buy another one, fortunately as long as technivorm continues to operate the same way I won't have to for a long time!
Moccamaster has comprehensive parts supply available. You can build a Moccamaster from their parts inventory if you wanted to. That cheapy certainly does not have a similar supply. The Moccamaster uses a high quality copper heating element. The cheapy is likely aluminum. The Moccamaster will function forever if kept clean with regular descaling. The cheapy might too, actually. Maybe.
You misunderstood the BLOOM, it works exactly as he wishes, not as he described. You turn it ON and it AUTOMATICALLY pauses and restarts - no babysitting. So, you should correct your video, the less expensive brewer has a real feature you wished for, the MM lacks. Be fair.
This is why I switched to the Oxo 9. It does the auto-bloom all by itself. The Technivorm (I've owned for years) does take a little work. My brew basket is the older one the gives you the sliding lever for closed, half-open, and full-open. You have to close, start the machine, let water fill, or saturate the grounds, then open it up to release the coffee (or stir) if you wish, but it's the Technivorm that you have to babysit. Oh, and other than having a copper boiler, the technivorm parts are flimsy plastic, like everything else. I'm not the fan, as every other coffee enthusiast seems to be. Yes, they assemble them by hand, so what? I care about acurate temperature, and brew time and the Oxo appears to imitate the pour-over method and it's $229. These guys know this is really over-hype and at $359, I think there is better with less work.
You know the Bloom works exactly as you say you wish - no need to turn it on and off - it's automatic!! Love that you touch on the great taste this brewer produces. that's what coffee is all about.
I’m very confused? I purchased the Simply Good one and the bloom switch automatically turns off? I’ve had it for a little over a month now and I love it.
They took everything wrong with the Moccamaster and made it worse. They didn't fix the shower head. Added more plastic to the brew water flow. Is there any way to get replacement parts 5 years down the road when something breaks or wears out? I would have more respect for this product if there were some actual improvements instead of what looks like a clear design rip-off.
@@falsecraigslist3160 I agree the Moccamaster is expensive. Much higher priced than the Simply Good Coffee Brewer. If someone is looking for a brewer in the same price range as the Simply Good, I would recommend one with full SCA Certification from Bonavita or OXO.
@@NateSomers Those words all sound pretty bougie too. Better still to get Mellita dripper and some filters and call it a morning. Look, don't take any personal offense at what I said up there--none meant toward you whatsoever. The video is what's making me roll my eyes. And just pointing out the same thing I've had to point out in the past over other issues. For example, I once had to stand there listening politely to my wife's friend's husband while he argued that Organic green peppers are better than non-organic. Which is fine, I don't necessarily disagree. But regardless of whether it's local, bonafide "Organic" or whether it's "SCA Certified" or whatever doesn't matter. The point is that the video ultimately tries to make the case that it's legitimately OK to spend an extra $200 for the "feeling" (that's literally what the guy in the video ACTUALLY says) that you're getting something better. A case can certainly be made for longevity and parts replacement--on this, we agree. But most people are living paycheck to paycheck and can't afford a feeling that costs $200. The guy in this video's taking a really bougie standpoint and it's not really that defensible. Anyway, again, no offense intended--apologies if so. Just speaking up for the working stiffs among us.
I can't fathom why both the Moccamaster and this SGCB use a thin bar as the showerhead. When we do a manual pourover, the entire point is to thoroughly saturate all of the grounds to create an even extraction. It isn't like an Onyx V60 center pour, either, because the initial bloom phase is still only in the middle of the coffee bed. Just make a round showerhead, like an unpressurized espresso group. Steady, consistent drip with temperature control. A bloom phase that drops a fixed volume of water, then waits before starting the full extraction. Yet these companies keep releasing a thin bar that doesn't wet the entire bed evenly.
I wish there had been some information regarding the interior working parts of both machines. The quality of the Technivoorm, and what sets it apart from the field is what's inside. He could have graphed the brewing temperature curve of both machines since consistent temperature is critical when brewing coffee. In the end, he is comparing two machines in different price classes. You buy based what fits your budget and how important coffee is in your life. And, most of the time, you get what you pay for.
I have 2 identical Mocamasters. 1 is in the garage rafters and the other is in the kitchen cabinet not getting used much. The newer one is a little lighter and it seems like the plastic is thinner and cheaper. Did they outsource to China? Mine use the thermal carafes. They are painfully expensive to replace. They can make good coffee, but so can others. Since I recently retired, and have the time, I do an 800 ml V 60 pour over in the morning and then go to single cups after that. More control and better coffee. If I was looking to buy a machine now, I would go for an SGC. As you can see, they do the same thing. The Moccamasters look nice and feel nice, but I think they are overpriced and overrated. Also, the filter basket is horrible on the MM, so the SGC looks like a possible improvement.
A drip coffee maker doesn't have to do much--pour hot water over ground coffee. I have a Moccamaster, but I'm sure a $20 dollar cheapo can do the same thing. Start with good beans, properly ground...hard to screw it up. My MM is really fast and temperature-accurate; that's really its only edge. I bet the results of a blind taste test between my machine and a Mr. Coffee would surprise.
Love my Moccamaster, however the rubber plugs on the end of the brew arm do wear out if you take them in and out to clean and dry the arm properly. Ultimately the rubber plug will break as mine did. When contacting Moccamaster to get replacement plugs they would not warranty the plugs because they are a “wear” item even though I was still in the warranty period. When I tried to order new plugs and pay for them I was told by Moccamaster that the rubber plugs (wear item) are not available alone, I would need to purchase the entire arm which is steel and should last forever if it’s cleaned properly! Am I the only lunatic that actually takes the plugs out regularly to clean and dry the arm? Seems kinda crazy…but I’m sipping some great coffee as I type this!
I have owned a Moccamaster since 2016, now its meh but its cheaper in Europe.Moccamaster is imported in the USA and Canada. Its a Chinese rebrand sold everywhere. Moccamaster is Made in EU. If you want a different brewer, loom at Sage and Wilfa.
I would not keep a moccamaster for 10 years just to keep it. It's flavor that matters and moccamaster makes some of the worst coffee I've ever had. Returned mine and have a Bonavita, which is 10x's better.
Wished you did some actual testing and brewing comparison at least The other thing is that the Moccamaster can always be repaired in the future while the knockoff is just that, which really doesn't save you any money since when it goes bad, you need to throw it away.
Looks like a very good option for some people who can't afford the Technivorm price point. Maybe the Simply Good is a bit better than the Bonavita makers? / A couple brewers from Japan that I have enjoyed are the Twinbird Automatic Coffee Maker and the Balmuda The Brew. Both have very good temperature control and look nice, imo. They both have good temperature control and produce consistent cups. Their only drawback is they make relatively small quantities of coffee. Oh, and $$$.
Bought the Moccamaster and was very disappointed in the taste. Tried everything, but every cup tasted awful. Returned it after 4 days and it is definitely NOT worth the price. Could care less about what feels "substantial" or colors. Irrelevant. The only thing that matters is taste.
I actually ordered the Simply Good brewer, in part because I think the design is FAR more attractive than the stodgy old design of the MM. Far more attractive and a lot cheaper was a win for me.
New Moccamaster owner here and I'm trying to understand all the hype. I haven't had a exceptional cup of coffee yet. Tried all different grind sizes and brews and I'm just not impressed at all. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Hi, how many cups are you brewing?, are you using a paper filter?, What water are you using? do you follow the 55g coffee to 1L water? I found that the Moco is better at brewing more than 4 cups. Also, metal filters do not work as good so I put a paper one under the metal filter, it seems to work best for me - I like the metal for dumping the grounds. I have a Fellow Ode V2 grinder and my setting is around 6, depending on the grind, so, light (5.2), med, or dark grind - the very dark would be at 7. I have hard water so I buy distilled and put in a water additive. I like a little stronger coffee so I grind 60g to 1L for a medium roast and 65g to 1L for a decade. this works for me hope this helps
@@mvoakes Hi, thank you for your insight. I seem to have figured out the problem. I was brewing on the larger pot setting and the water was rushing through the grinds and there must've been little extraction. Now, I brew on the smaller setting and I see the water is slowed down, My grinds are blooming like the flowers in spring, and the coffee is absolutely fantastic. I use med/course grind Dunkin donut bean and it's been a revelation for us.
@@mjoseph4947 Glad you figured it out. It takes a while to get the hang of the Moccamaster, but once you do, the coffee is just plain fantastic. And the machines last forever. Ours is going on 20 years and is running as good as the day we bought it.
I returned my Moccamaster, because the flavor just wasn't there. It was actually some of the worst coffee I've ever had. Now I have Bonavita and it's fantastic. I've also had OXO 8 cup and Bunn and both are superior to Moccamaste, which is overhyped plastic machine designed to to get you spend an inordinate amount of money on a not so great coffee machine.
all of that is wonderful but how about the coffee it makes??? You could heat my water in a sauce pan and pour my coffee through a glove if it tastes like the best coffee I have ever had…. Don’t care about the feel and magnets, I wanna know about the coffee!!
The number one thing people want to know about in comparison is the materials. This review gave me as much info as the Amazon info. NOTHING. What type of plastic does the knockoff use? What type of heater does the knockoff use? Who cares what it looks or feels like.
Metal conducts heat better than plastic. Therefore, the metal arm transfers more heat from the water, into the surrounding air. That's why plastic V60 brews better than metal or ceramic (if the latter materials aren't pre-heated).
It's the other way around. Plastic has a lower thermal mass and is always the better material for keeping a liquid hot outside of an active heat element. Same with ceramic. People order mugs at coffeeshops because they assume it keeps their coffee hotter, longer (and to be fair it's just more pleasing to hold one.) But a paper or plastic cup will keep your coffee hotter much, much longer than a mug will, as the mug steals heat from the liquid whereas the paper/plastic is less endothermic.
It is a knock off and cannot compare with the quality of the Moccamaster with its steel carafe and copper heat elements. Our Moccamaster was expensive but we are making the same quality coffee for 15 plus years. Better yet, Moccamaster is made in the Netherlands, not China.
If you want a cheaper Moccamaster I suggested buying a refurbished Moccamaster. I got one direct from Moccamaster for $210 which is a bit more but in the same range as this cheap copy
Then you have a $250 coffee maker with a 1-year warranty-bc they only warranty refurbished units for 12 months. I guess they don’t have much faith in them.
You sir, are gentleman and a scholar!
My sister and her husband have had their moccamaster 10 years and still working well
Ultimately it comes down to the taste of the coffee. Would have liked to see you new a pot from each and then have 3 or 4 people taste each and give ratings of the taste / temp of the coffee brewed!!!
I really enjoy the coffee my moccamaster makes. It took some definite trial and error to get there. That point aside what I really love about my moccamaster is the fact that mine took a tumble off the counter and my water reservoir broke, I reached out to technivorm and they got back to me within a day on how to send the brewer to them to be fixed. Not only that, but when I called with a few questions about the repair and costs, I spoke to the person who processed my service order. From the time I sent them my coffee maker to the time I got it back, it was less than two weeks. I have never in my life had such good customer service. I was super happy that, given the cost of the coffee maker, I was able to have it repaired and that it was a very easy process. I would gladly buy another one, fortunately as long as technivorm continues to operate the same way I won't have to for a long time!
Moccamaster has comprehensive parts supply available. You can build a Moccamaster from their parts inventory if you wanted to.
That cheapy certainly does not have a similar supply.
The Moccamaster uses a high quality copper heating element.
The cheapy is likely aluminum.
The Moccamaster will function forever if kept clean with regular descaling.
The cheapy might too, actually. Maybe.
You misunderstood the BLOOM, it works exactly as he wishes, not as he described. You turn it ON and it AUTOMATICALLY pauses and restarts - no babysitting. So, you should correct your video, the less expensive brewer has a real feature you wished for, the MM lacks. Be fair.
I was going to say the same thing. Definitely dont have to turn the switch on and off
This is why I switched to the Oxo 9. It does the auto-bloom all by itself. The Technivorm (I've owned for years) does take a little work. My brew basket is the older one the gives you the sliding lever for closed, half-open, and full-open. You have to close, start the machine, let water fill, or saturate the grounds, then open it up to release the coffee (or stir) if you wish, but it's the Technivorm that you have to babysit. Oh, and other than having a copper boiler, the technivorm parts are flimsy plastic, like everything else. I'm not the fan, as every other coffee enthusiast seems to be. Yes, they assemble them by hand, so what? I care about acurate temperature, and brew time and the Oxo appears to imitate the pour-over method and it's $229. These guys know this is really over-hype and at $359, I think there is better with less work.
You know the Bloom works exactly as you say you wish - no need to turn it on and off - it's automatic!! Love that you touch on the great taste this brewer produces. that's what coffee is all about.
I’m very confused? I purchased the Simply Good one and the bloom switch automatically turns off? I’ve had it for a little over a month now and I love it.
They took everything wrong with the Moccamaster and made it worse. They didn't fix the shower head. Added more plastic to the brew water flow. Is there any way to get replacement parts 5 years down the road when something breaks or wears out? I would have more respect for this product if there were some actual improvements instead of what looks like a clear design rip-off.
And another “made in China” product…
@@CarlHanlon Bonavita is made in China and makes coffee much better than the Moccamaster
And everyone can afford to shop at Whole Foods, too. Nailed it, Nate. Uh huh. Nailed it.
@@falsecraigslist3160 I agree the Moccamaster is expensive. Much higher priced than the Simply Good Coffee Brewer. If someone is looking for a brewer in the same price range as the Simply Good, I would recommend one with full SCA Certification from Bonavita or OXO.
@@NateSomers Those words all sound pretty bougie too. Better still to get Mellita dripper and some filters and call it a morning. Look, don't take any personal offense at what I said up there--none meant toward you whatsoever. The video is what's making me roll my eyes. And just pointing out the same thing I've had to point out in the past over other issues. For example, I once had to stand there listening politely to my wife's friend's husband while he argued that Organic green peppers are better than non-organic. Which is fine, I don't necessarily disagree. But regardless of whether it's local, bonafide "Organic" or whether it's "SCA Certified" or whatever doesn't matter. The point is that the video ultimately tries to make the case that it's legitimately OK to spend an extra $200 for the "feeling" (that's literally what the guy in the video ACTUALLY says) that you're getting something better. A case can certainly be made for longevity and parts replacement--on this, we agree. But most people are living paycheck to paycheck and can't afford a feeling that costs $200. The guy in this video's taking a really bougie standpoint and it's not really that defensible. Anyway, again, no offense intended--apologies if so. Just speaking up for the working stiffs among us.
The moccamaster has a copper heating element. What about this knock-off - what's in there?
Why is copper better than steel?
Copper is no better than any other type of heating element. Marketing rip off so you pay a ridiculous amount of money for no reason.
@@Meyerc-yv2bicopper is anti microbial and won’t grow algae, fungus, or bacteria.
I can't fathom why both the Moccamaster and this SGCB use a thin bar as the showerhead. When we do a manual pourover, the entire point is to thoroughly saturate all of the grounds to create an even extraction. It isn't like an Onyx V60 center pour, either, because the initial bloom phase is still only in the middle of the coffee bed.
Just make a round showerhead, like an unpressurized espresso group. Steady, consistent drip with temperature control. A bloom phase that drops a fixed volume of water, then waits before starting the full extraction. Yet these companies keep releasing a thin bar that doesn't wet the entire bed evenly.
My $80 ninja brewer has a large round head and I can’t for the life figure out how Ninja understands this but “premium” brewers do not
It’s because of the shower head thing I wouldn’t buy either.
I wish there had been some information regarding the interior working parts of both machines. The quality of the Technivoorm, and what sets it apart from the field is what's inside. He could have graphed the brewing temperature curve of both machines since consistent temperature is critical when brewing coffee. In the end, he is comparing two machines in different price classes. You buy based what fits your budget and how important coffee is in your life. And, most of the time, you get what you pay for.
One thing I like about my moccamaster is that they sell almost all the parts as replacements. I feel like I can keep this machine running forever.
I agree, what's the availability of parts going to be like on the other machine in 10 years' time?
I have 2 identical Mocamasters. 1 is in the garage rafters and the other is in the kitchen cabinet not getting used much. The newer one is a little lighter and it seems like the plastic is thinner and cheaper. Did they outsource to China? Mine use the thermal carafes. They are painfully expensive to replace. They can make good coffee, but so can others. Since I recently retired, and have the time, I do an 800 ml V 60 pour over in the morning and then go to single cups after that. More control and better coffee. If I was looking to buy a machine now, I would go for an SGC. As you can see, they do the same thing. The Moccamasters look nice and feel nice, but I think they are overpriced and overrated. Also, the filter basket is horrible on the MM, so the SGC looks like a possible improvement.
Any chance you wanna sell one of you Moccamasters that you don’t use?
Okay, this is really weird. I have this EXACT coffee maker, but it's called "OBH Nordica Blooming". I'm in Europe. Wonder which one is the original
Yo what the heck. I just looked it up. Literally the same. They must source from the same Chinese factory and just put their own branding on it.
@@Ronnie7474There are a ton of coffee products that are doing that right now. 3 years ago, almost none. In the espresso world it's the norm.
A drip coffee maker doesn't have to do much--pour hot water over ground coffee. I have a Moccamaster, but I'm sure a $20 dollar cheapo can do the same thing. Start with good beans, properly ground...hard to screw it up. My MM is really fast and temperature-accurate; that's really its only edge. I bet the results of a blind taste test between my machine and a Mr. Coffee would surprise.
Melitta has also a similar model.
Thanks for the comparison. Side note - what watch are you wearing?
I wanna say it’s a Submariner but the case doesn’t look quite right.
Love my mocaa master and won’t change to a cheap looking machine. Buying another moccasin master with canister actually. Thx
Love my Moccamaster, however the rubber plugs on the end of the brew arm do wear out if you take them in and out to clean and dry the arm properly. Ultimately the rubber plug will break as mine did. When contacting Moccamaster to get replacement plugs they would not warranty the plugs because they are a “wear” item even though I was still in the warranty period. When I tried to order new plugs and pay for them I was told by Moccamaster that the rubber plugs (wear item) are not available alone, I would need to purchase the entire arm which is steel and should last forever if it’s cleaned properly! Am I the only lunatic that actually takes the plugs out regularly to clean and dry the arm? Seems kinda crazy…but I’m sipping some great coffee as I type this!
Melitta One is another option. It's much sturdier. Here in sweden that coffeemaker beat the moccamaster in a big test.
I have owned a Moccamaster since 2016, now its meh but its cheaper in Europe.Moccamaster is imported in the USA and Canada. Its a Chinese rebrand sold everywhere. Moccamaster is Made in EU. If you want a different brewer, loom at Sage and Wilfa.
My dude I came across this video because this is exactly what I wanted to discuss. 😂
Other thing to consider. Is it really a cheaper coffee maker if you end up replacing it?
I would not keep a moccamaster for 10 years just to keep it. It's flavor that matters and moccamaster makes some of the worst coffee I've ever had. Returned mine and have a Bonavita, which is 10x's better.
Wished you did some actual testing and brewing comparison at least
The other thing is that the Moccamaster can always be repaired in the future while the knockoff is just that, which really doesn't save you any money since when it goes bad, you need to throw it away.
Moccamaster will last a lifetime. Unfortunately I hate my cup-one. 😆
Looks like a very good option for some people who can't afford the Technivorm price point. Maybe the Simply Good is a bit better than the Bonavita makers? / A couple brewers from Japan that I have enjoyed are the Twinbird Automatic Coffee Maker and the Balmuda The Brew. Both have very good temperature control and look nice, imo. They both have good temperature control and produce consistent cups. Their only drawback is they make relatively small quantities of coffee. Oh, and $$$.
Uh. NO.. The Bonavita is far superior to moccamaster, so it would be better than Simply Good.
But he never talked about the taste of the coffee. Did I miss that?
Bought the Moccamaster and was very disappointed in the taste. Tried everything, but every cup tasted awful. Returned it after 4 days and it is definitely NOT worth the price. Could care less about what feels "substantial" or colors. Irrelevant. The only thing that matters is taste.
Wow, I was always intrigued about the Mocamaster. Nice to see a similar better priced one.
Need to see the guts for this to be a very useful comparison.
No screwdriver ?
Why didn’t you dig deeper into the engineering. The boiler!!!
He did. The temperatures are near identical.
I mean, what the boilers are actually made out of/the technology in them.
@@cgdehringMoccamaster is made from copper, but that does not make it a superior machine or make the coffee taste any better.
After about 9 months my SGCB does not heat the water as hot as it used to when new - no luck with getting thru to them
You didn't compare the taste of the coffee!?!!?
Admit it, Charlie. Spending $200 dollars more for a "feeling" isn't really a legit selling point.
The mm is gorgeous. That copycat version is not
I prefer the Simply Good. To each his own.
I actually ordered the Simply Good brewer, in part because I think the design is FAR more attractive than the stodgy old design of the MM. Far more attractive and a lot cheaper was a win for me.
@@MatthewGill-qo9yy I agree. Simply Good also makes simply great coffee, better than the MM.
New Moccamaster owner here and I'm trying to understand all the hype. I haven't had a exceptional cup of coffee yet. Tried all different grind sizes and brews and I'm just not impressed at all. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
What grinder are you using? Shoot us a message on instagram and I will send you some coffee to try.
Hi, how many cups are you brewing?, are you using a paper filter?, What water are you using? do you follow the 55g coffee to 1L water?
I found that the Moco is better at brewing more than 4 cups. Also, metal filters do not work as good so I put a paper one under the metal filter, it seems to work best for me - I like the metal for dumping the grounds. I have a Fellow Ode V2 grinder and my setting is around 6, depending on the grind, so, light (5.2), med, or dark grind - the very dark would be at 7. I have hard water so I buy distilled and put in a water additive. I like a little stronger coffee so I grind 60g to 1L for a medium roast and 65g to 1L for a decade. this works for me
hope this helps
@@mvoakes Hi, thank you for your insight. I seem to have figured out the problem. I was brewing on the larger pot setting and the water was rushing through the grinds and there must've been little extraction. Now, I brew on the smaller setting and I see the water is slowed down, My grinds are blooming like the flowers in spring, and the coffee is absolutely fantastic. I use med/course grind Dunkin donut bean and it's been a revelation for us.
@@mjoseph4947 Glad you figured it out. It takes a while to get the hang of the Moccamaster, but once you do, the coffee is just plain fantastic. And the machines last forever. Ours is going on 20 years and is running as good as the day we bought it.
I returned my Moccamaster, because the flavor just wasn't there. It was actually some of the worst coffee I've ever had. Now I have Bonavita and it's fantastic. I've also had OXO 8 cup and Bunn and both are superior to Moccamaste, which is overhyped plastic machine designed to to get you spend an inordinate amount of money on a not so great coffee machine.
all of that is wonderful but how about the coffee it makes??? You could heat my water in a sauce pan and pour my coffee through a glove if it tastes like the best coffee I have ever had…. Don’t care about the feel and magnets, I wanna know about the coffee!!
The number one thing people want to know about in comparison is the materials. This review gave me as much info as the Amazon info. NOTHING. What type of plastic does the knockoff use? What type of heater does the knockoff use? Who cares what it looks or feels like.
Off brand coffee maker looks horrible.
I prefer the look of Simly Good.
The water temperature surprised me. I thought Mocha Master’s metal arm would’ve kept the water closer to boiling than SimplyGoodCoffee’s plastic
Metal conducts heat better than plastic. Therefore, the metal arm transfers more heat from the water, into the surrounding air. That's why plastic V60 brews better than metal or ceramic (if the latter materials aren't pre-heated).
It's the other way around. Plastic has a lower thermal mass and is always the better material for keeping a liquid hot outside of an active heat element. Same with ceramic. People order mugs at coffeeshops because they assume it keeps their coffee hotter, longer (and to be fair it's just more pleasing to hold one.) But a paper or plastic cup will keep your coffee hotter much, much longer than a mug will, as the mug steals heat from the liquid whereas the paper/plastic is less endothermic.
It is a knock off and cannot compare with the quality of the Moccamaster with its steel carafe and copper heat elements. Our Moccamaster was expensive but we are making the same quality coffee for 15 plus years. Better yet, Moccamaster is made in the Netherlands, not China.
Good vid, but wish you had done a taste comparison. There is some magic in the Moccamaster that can’t be described…only tasted.
When it comes down to the data, there is really no difference in taste.
Magic isn’t real ya nerd
Say ultimately one mo time...
Thanks
Bah
Meh
make some Fn coffee for gods sake