@@tomselek7560 Sounds like someone who can't PVP based on skill and relies on level / gear diff. Which is fine. It's not meant to be a skillful game, but it's still pretty pathetic to see level 90s camp level 60s lol. Nothing based on build. Levels play the biggest part in armor effectiveness. Meaning level 90s one shot lower levels.
@@nugget7865 no need to hate on me it's just a fact. I agree it's boring to get killed by caracter who got 30+ levels but i personnaly dont care the only game i played on pvp was WoW 20 yrs ago. Maybe Tera a little bit but i do not play Diablo to go PVP this is stupid. And if someone wants to, ok but stop crying since Normalize pvp is not logic, particulary in diablo. Best player +best build = win That's pvp
@@tomselek7560 I'm not hating on you. It's not personal, but an observation. Most of these players would run away when there's another 90+ / 100 with bloodmarked off cleansing together with me. I'm also not asking it to be changed or anything. I just think it's, again, for people who can't handle actual pvp based challenges.
@@bluekangarootheoretics5336 Well you take hamstring so bleeds slow, then tough as nails for more damage based on HP stack HP and bleeds. Really you want close dmg Revenge glyph and exploit for vulnerable too. You can get crazy with scaling it.
will you go through every single possible barb build and test how broken they can get, then when you're done move on to other classes? anyways appreciate the cool content and guides! cheers
These builds arnt broken per way… his character is theeeee or one of the top 10 most geared and highest powered characters in Diablo 3 right now.. look at his life and dmg numbers lol.. a normal Person can make this build and it’s fucking trash lol.. cause your gear is 10x worse then his and your level 79 vs lvl 100 lol
So 26k thorns deleting people but i tried razorplate and had a total of 13k thorns but it did literally 100 dmg to a necro that bone speared me to half hp. Does barb have some secret throns multiplier or what?
Hope they add crazy corrupt items or something touched by the corruption of Lilith. WW cost health instead of fury at a percentage of your physical dmg but ignores all defences of the enemy. Your minions deal 50% more dmg but you also life linked to your minions and receive a portion of the damage. Teleport teleports enemys to you instead of you teleporting. Meteor now becomes a comet shower dealing cold dmg instead of fire. Blizzard now deals fire damage and becomes a fire storm. Basic skills have a chance to reset your core skills but core skills cost twice the resource but do double damage when they reset. Skeletons have a chance to split into smaller skeletons with half hp. Wraiths now possessed an enemy when they die until the possessed enemy is dead. Werebear is stronger at night than day. Your Blood Golems now siphon blood from enemys and form into another coagulated blood golem and that golem can also split up to X amount. Enemys killed by your Corpse Explosion now crest a chain reaction with subsequent kills the chain reaction continues. Your Clay Golems now have a chance to be imbued with minerals from the ground on creation....aka boulders....lightning. You can now feed your Metal Golem items for buffs for an X amount of time . Your Clay Golems now have a chance to find clay deposits adding X size and X dmg per stack. You are now partially blind your lucky hit is incensed by 50% your light radius and view radius are decreased by X amount...."The warriors eyes failed him in his old age but make no mistake his strikes are as deadly as ever". Could go on all day with stupid ideas. Ps just came up with a new character one of the Horadrim and a new endgame dungeon Labyrinth of the Horadrim reforms every day can only be run once per day by each char...bye!
Just started the game, went "huh, thorns seems really easy to get to a high number, lets put it into youtube search" and here I am and yup, I'm not surprised lol
Am I the only one confused about thorns not crit striking? When I get a lethal shrine I see all the values critical striking... is that just the shrine that does that effect?
@@zanduinxd6967 get the razorplate unique, get the aspect that gives you aoe thorns proc, and play normal ww barb with as much thorns as you can get on other pieces. You probably want the ww affix that pulls enemy's towards you too. Idk why you need a build guide for everything it's not that hard
@@MCoTEDDY thanks, besides the last part lol. need a guide wouldn't be how i would put it. If someone else went through the trouble of finding what works best why not use that instead of trial and error?
I don't think anyone' posted videos yet but in theory Echo Lilly hits 5+ times every attack so as long as you can tank the hit(the problem right now I think...) it could potentially 1-shot her.
@@Alldayanyday1OnThePS4it’s meant to with certain types of minions + ring bonuses but when I was trying it out, thorn damage wasn’t even applying in pve with minions
@@FAST81000 Thanks! Do you know if they have an effective radius? For example, if an attacker attacks a thorn user from a far distance, will he be affected by thorns?
@@FAST81000 if that is the case then mechanics of thorns should be changed. For example, a sorc attacking a barb from the corner of the screen should not be affected by thorns. Let's see what blizz is going to do about it.
How do these people find the time to level and gear up so fast. Unless im slow because im pretty sure because of the fact that Diablo 4 is made for mature adience, most of us are working adults?
Hi Rob, can I ask you a question, please? How do you generate Berserking, only through War Cry and Steel Grasp? You use the ultimate skill Unconstrained, isn't it better to put the point somewhere else?
Rob, again you gonna make blizzard nerf barbarian... omg 😭 I hope they understand u are not normal player.... others players dont have thats itens status... Chest 11,842 Thorns from 8,613 - 11,842 ..... Thorns Mace 80% from 40-80%...
@@7aroslaw and they shouldn't care about pvp as this is predominantly a PvE game and genre and always has been. If they balance builds around pvp it would completely break many PvE builds. Unless they do separate balancing for the fields of hatred, which would just take dev resources away from more important things
@@MCoTEDDY You are absoluty rights. My point is that Blizzard was saying that they dont care about pvp, it is what it is so there will be no nerf as long as its not braking pve gameplay... also necro is rly bad in pvp on 50+
I love my Barbarian but Blizzard creates its own problems with builds like this. We need more Robs playing other classes to bring them to a much reasonable level. Or Fields of Hatred will become a ghost town and honestly if they dont fix some of these builds it probably deserves to fail. "its not meant to be balanced" the repercussions of that is its not very fun and most people will stay away from it.
It's a PvE game, they won't nerf a build because it's "too good in the fields of hatred" because it's stupid to do so when 99% of the content is PvE and 99% of the playerbase is playing the game for PvE. Why would they nerf builds because they over perform in 1% of the game to then ruin them for the 99% of the game where thorns barb is completely fine and people enjoy playing it.
I am sorry but i couldnt resist after watched ur HOTA build , i ahve lower rolls on most aspects than you ofc im level 69 , anyway ...nothing beats the feeling to 1- tap giant pack elites hahah or 2-3 tap a boss , even if thorns come on top .. the damage profile and method is different, i feel really good to 1 tap things HAHAHAHA so unless u come with some insane upheaval build i dont see myself switching to thorns no matter how strong they are. Its all about the 1 shot for me , AND THANK YOU my guy to assure me other builds work just as great as dumb WW. I hated the playstyle , its so dumb , walking and spining like a brain dead .. now this , reqs some positioning and when im ready i wipe the screen with single blow, nothing beats that feeling for me :)
it seems thorn dmg is bugged in pvp. you should take 8% dmg from players in pvp. my friend got Razor Plate last night, with 8900 thorn dmg. so when a player attacks him, attacker should recieve 712 dmg. we went to pvp zone, and i attacked him, i was dmged for 2352 dmg. definitelly a bug, should be fixed asap
I was running thorns without this ability tree setup and your build is amazing. way more damage after i tried it that way.
Steel grasp is super important for that extra berserker time
perfectly balanced as all things should be.
He's fighting level 60s - 90s.
PvP should not be balanced or normalize.
You go PvP when you have a nice build and stuff
You want balanced shit go LoL 😂
@@tomselek7560 Sounds like someone who can't PVP based on skill and relies on level / gear diff.
Which is fine. It's not meant to be a skillful game, but it's still pretty pathetic to see level 90s camp level 60s lol.
Nothing based on build. Levels play the biggest part in armor effectiveness. Meaning level 90s one shot lower levels.
@@nugget7865 no need to hate on me it's just a fact.
I agree it's boring to get killed by caracter who got 30+ levels
but i personnaly dont care the only game i played on pvp was WoW 20 yrs ago.
Maybe Tera a little bit but i do not play Diablo to go PVP this is stupid.
And if someone wants to, ok but stop crying since Normalize pvp is not logic, particulary in diablo.
Best player +best build = win
That's pvp
@@tomselek7560 I'm not hating on you. It's not personal, but an observation. Most of these players would run away when there's another 90+ / 100 with bloodmarked off cleansing together with me.
I'm also not asking it to be changed or anything. I just think it's, again, for people who can't handle actual pvp based challenges.
Thorn doesn't do direct damage oddly. So the technique won't work. Gotta take the thorn bleeds passive.
The key passive?
Isn't that all you need for the crowd control? With the slow?
Then you just focus on crowd control increasing damage!!
@@bluekangarootheoretics5336 Well you take hamstring so bleeds slow, then tough as nails for more damage based on HP stack HP and bleeds. Really you want close dmg Revenge glyph and exploit for vulnerable too. You can get crazy with scaling it.
Love the video, however leaving those seeds of hatred on the ground had me screaming XD
How do you have so much survivability tho? Some rogues like 3tap me, got pretty bis ww gear lvl 86. Room for improvement, but overall bis gear
i can say a HOTA barb still 1 shots this and takes no damage.... any ideas how to beat a hota barb?
will you go through every single possible barb build and test how broken they can get, then when you're done move on to other classes?
anyways appreciate the cool content and guides! cheers
Rob single handily going to get every Barb spec nerfed, lmao.
A hater of barb I see 👀
@@Junuman1 nah I main barb, just would make sense content-wise
These builds arnt broken per way… his character is theeeee or one of the top 10 most geared and highest powered characters in Diablo 3 right now.. look at his life and dmg numbers lol.. a normal Person can make this build and it’s fucking trash lol.. cause your gear is 10x worse then his and your level 79 vs lvl 100 lol
How you counter a thorn build?
that guy that one shot him self made me laugh hard @8:58
Thorns Barb: I love peace
What are you taking points out of to get Steel Grasp?
been playing this myself. incredibly satisfying to see bullies end up on the wrong side of my thorns.
there are no bullies in pvp. everything is fair game.
Yeah don't go into PvP zones and act like you're being bullied when you die lol
@@iiWicked I think you might be in the wrong reply thread.
"There are no bullies in pvp" there are bullies everywhere and y'all know who you are.
@@AZzalor6632bruh a level 90 was waiting right outside of the town to kill me I’m getting this build so they can stop being annoying asf
So 26k thorns deleting people but i tried razorplate and had a total of 13k thorns but it did literally 100 dmg to a necro that bone speared me to half hp. Does barb have some secret throns multiplier or what?
what hapens if a thorns barb fights another thorns barb, do they just kill each other bouncing damage off of nearby enemies? lol
Fun question!!!
Nope they just stand there waitinf for you to attack its actually really embarrassing when you know what they are trying to do
hello rob would u say barb best pvp class? also after nerf you think still highest dps followed by druid then rogue?
right now it is druid > barb > rogue
Hope they add crazy corrupt items or something touched by the corruption of Lilith.
WW cost health instead of fury at a percentage of your physical dmg but ignores all defences of the enemy.
Your minions deal 50% more dmg but you also life linked to your minions and receive a portion of the damage.
Teleport teleports enemys to you instead of you teleporting.
Meteor now becomes a comet shower dealing cold dmg instead of fire.
Blizzard now deals fire damage and becomes a fire storm.
Basic skills have a chance to reset your core skills but core skills cost twice the resource but do double damage when they reset.
Skeletons have a chance to split into smaller skeletons with half hp.
Wraiths now possessed an enemy when they die until the possessed enemy is dead.
Werebear is stronger at night than day.
Your Blood Golems now siphon blood from enemys and form into another coagulated blood golem and that golem can also split up to X amount.
Enemys killed by your Corpse Explosion now crest a chain reaction with subsequent kills the chain reaction continues.
Your Clay Golems now have a chance to be imbued with minerals from the ground on creation....aka boulders....lightning.
You can now feed your Metal Golem items for buffs for an X amount of time .
Your Clay Golems now have a chance to find clay deposits adding X size and X dmg per stack.
You are now partially blind your lucky hit is incensed by 50% your light radius and view radius are decreased by X amount...."The warriors eyes failed him in his old age but make no mistake his strikes are as deadly as ever".
Could go on all day with stupid ideas.
Ps just came up with a new character one of the Horadrim and a new endgame dungeon Labyrinth of the Horadrim reforms every day can only be run once per day by each char...bye!
Just started the game, went "huh, thorns seems really easy to get to a high number, lets put it into youtube search" and here I am and yup, I'm not surprised lol
You are probably the strongest barb in the world right now
Am I the only one confused about thorns not crit striking? When I get a lethal shrine I see all the values critical striking... is that just the shrine that does that effect?
Are you gona activate thorns if you damage this Barb with elemental spec dmg like burning or other dot
GG..Well played!
There is a whirlwind barb build with thorns and its crazy good as long as ur getting hit ur unkillable.
Anywhere i can find that build. Sounds fun before i go off and mess it up doing it myself
@@zanduinxd6967 get the razorplate unique, get the aspect that gives you aoe thorns proc, and play normal ww barb with as much thorns as you can get on other pieces. You probably want the ww affix that pulls enemy's towards you too.
Idk why you need a build guide for everything it's not that hard
@@zanduinxd6967 Mattjestic multigaming did a vid on it
@@MCoTEDDY Basically yes there are a few more optimizations
@@MCoTEDDY thanks, besides the last part lol. need a guide wouldn't be how i would put it. If someone else went through the trouble of finding what works best why not use that instead of trial and error?
Thorns barb vs Uber Lilith, go!
Does Ghostwalker Aspect stack with Rallying Cry?
At the second paragon board you have 40/40 str at the glyph. If i copy your nodes i have only 20/40. Any idea why?
Probably leveled the glyph for range
What's the recommended stat priority for weapons/gear?
Blizzard never knew how to even tackle PVP in any game.
I want to see you kill a world boss with this build 😂
I don't think anyone' posted videos yet but in theory Echo Lilly hits 5+ times every attack so as long as you can tank the hit(the problem right now I think...) it could potentially 1-shot her.
Do you have a leveling build for this ? Thorn?
Funny to watch. Nice build
This build in pve playable?
I wonder if thorns necro can works like this in pvp?
If thorns applies to your minions as well..that would actually Lowkey be the best thorns build LOL
@@Alldayanyday1OnThePS4it’s meant to with certain types of minions + ring bonuses but when I was trying it out, thorn damage wasn’t even applying in pve with minions
damn sick level 100 vs level 60 clips
Just fyi on this build he is Dodge on his boots but that doesn't synergize with thorns, I would change that stat
hey rob! how about WW+Thorn is it viable? thanks!
too many uniques not enough thorns..
I have a question. Is it okay not to take life or resistance in ww build?
You never take resistance. Worst stat in the game. Life, armor, damage reduction is the way.
Can thorn be run while leveling? I am 23 now and I feell WW is hard to play, on bosses to be precise
If you try it let me know how it worked
Ww isn’t meant to be used while levelling. Go hota or rend prob
Can you link your build?
Do thorns work on ranged attacks aswell?
Yes
@@FAST81000 Thanks! Do you know if they have an effective radius? For example, if an attacker attacks a thorn user from a far distance, will he be affected by thorns?
@@malevon09 from barbs perspective, everything on the screen dies no matter the distance.
@@FAST81000 if that is the case then mechanics of thorns should be changed. For example, a sorc attacking a barb from the corner of the screen should not be affected by thorns. Let's see what blizz is going to do about it.
Hard to tell did you kill a single person level 100 or were they all under level lol...
All under his level
That was my plan for tomorrow. Now i can forget about it ;D
How u have 12k life ?
Nerfed or still viable?
Gunna be weird when everyone is running a throns build
Thorns PvP damage nerf 100% incoming
They should limit the range on thorns. Ranged characters should be a hard counter to thorns builds.
Exploit got nerfed :(
best barb leveling build?
Great. Blizzard is now officially going to nerf the barb to the ground.
No armory to save my ww build and try this build, damn :'(
How do these people find the time to level and gear up so fast. Unless im slow because im pretty sure because of the fact that Diablo 4 is made for mature adience, most of us are working adults?
Loved thorns In d3 glad see still viable
Rob thorn barb build = Weekly world boss. Lol
stronger than a world boss lol
As hilarious as every other Diablo. Subscribed. ~thorns4lyf~
Hi Rob, can I ask you a question, please? How do you generate Berserking, only through War Cry and Steel Grasp? You use the ultimate skill Unconstrained, isn't it better to put the point somewhere else?
I guess they are gonna nerf this too?😯
luv this
Need The Build Video NOW
Rob, again you gonna make blizzard nerf barbarian... omg 😭
I hope they understand u are not normal player.... others players dont have thats itens status... Chest 11,842 Thorns from 8,613 - 11,842 ..... Thorns Mace 80% from 40-80%...
rob helping blizzard looking for next nerf
Pretty sure they will tune thorns in PVP maps, other classes has no chance. Other than Thorns vs Thorns barb
I keep laughing about the thought of two barbs just screaming at each other.
@@7aroslaw and they shouldn't care about pvp as this is predominantly a PvE game and genre and always has been. If they balance builds around pvp it would completely break many PvE builds.
Unless they do separate balancing for the fields of hatred, which would just take dev resources away from more important things
@@MCoTEDDY You are absoluty rights. My point is that Blizzard was saying that they dont care about pvp, it is what it is so there will be no nerf as long as its not braking pve gameplay... also necro is rly bad in pvp on 50+
That's we're your wrong. It's not hard to kill a throns barb. Easy as a druid.
That build is so nasty
Does thorns work vs ranged attacks? If so, that is ridiculous. Ranged should be a hard counter to this build.
Yes, it works on ranged
So does this build work while starting from 1-50
confirmed. thorns is not a meme build.
I love how they make the same mistakes. D2 had builds like this as well.
worst part about this build is 1 nesesery item... with my luck to drops I will probably never get it
Guess what's getting nerfed next, lol
Blizzard’s major piece of evidence to justify the upcoming nerf
They won't nerft it for pvp. Especially scince 98% don't know how to counter.
@@MrPlumloko been looking everywhere. How do you counter this stupidly broken pvp crap
I love my Barbarian but Blizzard creates its own problems with builds like this. We need more Robs playing other classes to bring them to a much reasonable level.
Or Fields of Hatred will become a ghost town and honestly if they dont fix some of these builds it probably deserves to fail.
"its not meant to be balanced"
the repercussions of that is its not very fun and most people will stay away from it.
It's a PvE game, they won't nerf a build because it's "too good in the fields of hatred" because it's stupid to do so when 99% of the content is PvE and 99% of the playerbase is playing the game for PvE.
Why would they nerf builds because they over perform in 1% of the game to then ruin them for the 99% of the game where thorns barb is completely fine and people enjoy playing it.
What he said and the fact the people can't fight. Thorns not that hard to counter.
Necro. Blood mist only thing that can easily kill thorns barb.
the planner is so wrong... there is aspects to buff iron skin but the skill is not even learned
Stop making videos dawg, barbarian is going to be the worst in the game at this rate
GG WP 😂 👍
That stupid chest never drops, they'll nerf this build too...
People should leave WW, try out HOTA build, it's much better.
Me wathing it as a druid after grizlly rage nerf is like ....
Shouts are stupid as they are. There's no barbarian. There's shoutmancer.
Best Build for bots
thorns look way to easy how you play it :D
👍👍👍👍
Be better some cap for stats on pvp
what a menace you are lol
what happens when its thorns vs thorns lol
whoever pulls more aggro from pve mobs wins
now the anti barb kids will cry harder causing barbs to get nerfed again
I dont know what to feel about this. Its the lamest and funniest pvp build ive ever seen
This is going to get so nerfed... I want to play it before it does!
I am sorry but i couldnt resist after watched ur HOTA build , i ahve lower rolls on most aspects than you ofc im level 69 , anyway ...nothing beats the feeling to 1- tap giant pack elites hahah or 2-3 tap a boss , even if thorns come on top .. the damage profile and method is different, i feel really good to 1 tap things HAHAHAHA so unless u come with some insane upheaval build i dont see myself switching to thorns no matter how strong they are. Its all about the 1 shot for me , AND THANK YOU my guy to assure me other builds work just as great as dumb WW. I hated the playstyle , its so dumb , walking and spining like a brain dead .. now this , reqs some positioning and when im ready i wipe the screen with single blow, nothing beats that feeling for me :)
I hate three shouts build😂
That sht is so broken,once u get the unique chest plate,especially in pvp,needs nerfed f that
They won't nerft it bc ppl suck at fighting. There's 2 classes that counter thorns easy.
Bdjswishahahahahaha this is so much fun to watch
it seems thorn dmg is bugged in pvp. you should take 8% dmg from players in pvp. my friend got Razor Plate last night, with 8900 thorn dmg. so when a player attacks him, attacker should recieve 712 dmg. we went to pvp zone, and i attacked him, i was dmged for 2352 dmg. definitelly a bug, should be fixed asap
Nerf Incoming
Barbarian wins by doing absolutely nothing!
nah this build sucks in pvp, at least everyone I have run into just one shots, and my stats are higher than Robs
Barbs are busted hota and this thorns gg roll a barb if u wanna win
Can you please use other classes as well? Bliz will nerf the shit out of barbs while other classes may be equally broken just nobody realize it!
Quit being a bully rob
First
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Thorns Barbarian, high Toughness, good Damage & easy Gameplay :) Enjoy!
Build Guide: ua-cam.com/video/8iIq2wNZrOA/v-deo.html
Other Barb Builds
Whirlwind Barb: ua-cam.com/video/leoHdZVvjvw/v-deo.html
HotA: ua-cam.com/video/kTgk02nF_ME/v-deo.html
Rend: ua-cam.com/video/Od_Kc4-35ZI/v-deo.html
Double Swing: ua-cam.com/video/lJlNH4b6gc4/v-deo.html
is this a easy build? i am having trouble with ww build (fury starved)
Enjoy until tomorrow. The Nerf Hammer is already on the way to slam THorns into the Ground :)
F thorns build, get ready for a nerf
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