Prostate cancer, options, Ornish, and what I do

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024

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  • @DERISNER
    @DERISNER Місяць тому

    Great video (as usual). I'm 63 years old, a little worried about the prostate. So, best advice you give, which I have followed, is to go full-blown, hardcore, 100% Spartan (vegan) diet. I got rid of everything not organic. Acquired my set of all high quality stainless steel cookware and glass containers a while back. I recommend it now to **everybody** I know. I don't care if they tell me to shut up and go away, some will listen and it will make a huge difference in their lives later on. Thanks for what you do, and please continue doing it!

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks! Most people have poor health habits, and do not age well. "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they love" - Voltaire.

  • @bgrobbins
    @bgrobbins Місяць тому +1

    I am a big believer in rice based diet, no added salt. reading Estrogeneration book right now. especially for prostate, you have to lower your exposure to estrogenics. this is a huge and growing environmental issue. avoid red dyes. avoid birth control. avoid sunscreen. reduce plastic exposure. get serious about water filtration and purification. only eat organic food.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Місяць тому

      Yes. Like the low fat vegan diet; avoiding estrogenics has all benefits and no downsides.

  • @rawintuition
    @rawintuition Місяць тому +1

    🏆

  • @ES-C777
    @ES-C777 Місяць тому +2

    This channel and its content are absolutely phenomenal and a goldmine. Your efforts are greatly appreciated, Dr. Rogers.
    BTW, what is your personal opinion on the use of finasteride for the treatment of androgenic alopecia? Do you have any hairloss related content? Thank you.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Місяць тому +4

      Thanks! I try to avoid drugs. Women don't care about hair that much. They care much more about a man's money & status & personality. Low fat vegans have less hair loss. I lost my hair before I became a vegetarian. It's partly genetic. My hair seemed to grow back a little bit when I quit using shampoo. We don't need shampoo. Lots of toxic chemicals. Usually contains several estrogenics as well.

    • @schmingusss
      @schmingusss Місяць тому +1

      I took Propecia (1mg Finasteride) for ten years, between the ages of 30 and 40. It helped stop my hairloss but it came with a myriad of side effects. The worst, at the time, were the panic attacks. Do not take that crap!!!

    • @alan2102X
      @alan2102X Місяць тому

      @ES-C777 - Alopecia effects are just a bonus. The big benefit of the 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors is prevention of prostate cancer! Lots of studies on this.

    • @alan2102X
      @alan2102X Місяць тому

      @@schmingusss "Myriad"? Really? Probably not. But some, yeah. Panic attacks probably caused by insufficient allopregnanolone, which opposes anxiety/panic. The 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors slow down allopregnanolone synthesis. This can be compensated by taking supplementary pregnenolone, a cheap, harmless supplement.

    • @schmingusss
      @schmingusss Місяць тому

      @@alan2102X Yes, terrible panic attacks, depression, trouble sleeping, loss of libido (not complete but definitely noticeable). Now I'm faced with a really high psa and have to see a urologist. I tell you, if I could go back, I would never have put that crap in me. I know it's tough losing your hair but once you're on the other side of hair loss, it's ok.

  • @schmingusss
    @schmingusss Місяць тому

    Didn't that Ornish study only use men with Gleason 6 "cancer"?

  • @jmwhitt
    @jmwhitt Місяць тому

    You mention beet juice which helps NO production. Have you tried pomegranate juice for NO? Also apparently helps reduce soft plaque in a study.

    • @alan2102X
      @alan2102X Місяць тому

      Pomegranate also inhibits aromatase. Flavonoids/polyphenols in general seem to inhibit aromatase.

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Місяць тому

      I have not tried pomegranate juice. If you know of a reference, I will take a look at it.

    • @jmwhitt
      @jmwhitt Місяць тому

      pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23528829/
      pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15158307/
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3514854/

    • @alan2102X
      @alan2102X Місяць тому

      @@PeterRogersMD
      search:
      pomegranate aromatase ncbi

  • @1FoundSheep
    @1FoundSheep Місяць тому

    Thanks for all your information you impart to us, Dr. Rogers. I had an abnormal PSA and Urologist wanted to do a 12-point biopsy. I declined, and asked for a prostate MRI. The results came back as Pi-Rads 4, high, clinically significant cancer likely, and 3 lesions were observed. The Urologist said great, now we can do an MRI guided fusion biopsy. Based on my investigations, and the sequela of symptoms I am experiencing I feel more more inclined to go with a PSMA scan to search for Mets and perhaps gain a more accurate total picture before any invasive diagnostic procedures are rendered. I understand that bottom line tissue is the issue but would like a better overall study before going there. Is it possible based on this to have my primary do a straight referral to Oncology and further study, before having biopsy, or am I just barking up the wrong tree? Would you consider this if it was yourself? Thanks Dr. Rogers!

    • @PeterRogersMD
      @PeterRogersMD  Місяць тому +1

      The real question is "What works?" Every treatment option has risks, benefits, alternatives. Conventional medicine tends to say, "This is the standard," and goes by that. However, when one looks at it closely, one often sees that the "standard" is mostly based on tradition with little, if any, reliable evidence to support it. When one looks closely, one typically sees that the standard is quite often a way to sell drugs and surgeries. Andy Grove the intel computer guy wrote about his prostate cancer. He said that, "every bird sings its own song." Ie. urology recommended surgery. rad onc recommended xrt. Etc. Dr Mcdougall has a good video on prostate cancer. Kelly Turner in Radical Remission book has a good chapter on prostate cancer. Neal Barnard in "your body in balance" has a good chapter on prostate cancer. The Ornish study is very interesting. Overdiagnosed by Gilbert Welch is a good book. I made a lecture at vegan society of Hawaii, where I go over many of the issues of prostate cancer (& breast cancer). Prostate cancer is often estrogen sensitive. I've made lectures about avoiding estrogen. It is wise to look at incentives. You want to save yourself. Your goal is the best. The system does NOT obligate doctors to care about you, or to do anything for you. In order to generate billing codes, there are certain things they have to do. They have to please the referral doctor, or they won't get any more referrals. They have to make money for their group, or they will get fired. They have to go by the standard of care, or they can be sued. Truth be known. The system is based on atheistic Darwinism, which says that humans are just talking monkeys, with no soul. I tell you all this so that you will be able to make objective decisions. No one dies from having a big prostate. If they die from prostate cancer, they die from mets. It is really worthwhile to focus the treatment on the prostate? What is it that removes metastatic cancer cells? It's the immune system. Most people intrinsically trust the system, are mentally weak, lazy, ignoramuses, who just do whatever their doctor tells them. If it was me, I would try to optimize my immune system & do all the things that lower PSA. Then I would recheck my PSA. However, almost no one does that. That is NOT the standard. I can trust myself to do whatever I think is best. Most patients do everything half ass eg. say "I'm cutting down on meat, dairy, oils, etc." An absolute Biblical attitude works better for most health topics: I shalt not eat meat, dairy, oils. I shalt get my sleep. I shalt exercise & get sunshine & have a sense of purpose & be religious & avoid caffeine. Pt's tend to be impressed with all the bells and whistles of high tech medicine; but the correct question is "Is my cancer a vulture, rabbit or a turtle? Will this make me live longer? Will this improve my quality of life, compared with the alternative?" I do not treat patients with prostate cancer. I am not your doctor.

    • @1FoundSheep
      @1FoundSheep Місяць тому +1

      @PeterRogersMD I hear what your saying and appreciate all the time you took to basically create a landscape for thinking about this issue and not answer directly because you are not my doctor. In the final analysis, I guess we must all be our own doctor based on how we treat our bodies or farm ourselves out to those with medical degrees who may not always have our best interest at heart. I will look into all the resources you referenced to form a coherent plan of action. Thank you Dr. Rogers!

    • @salbers
      @salbers Місяць тому

      You are on the right track in deferring invasive interrogations. I've been researching PC for 5 years the way Dr. Peters recommends. My take is as follows: FORGET ABOUT PSA. The discoverer of PSA and inventor of the PSA test says it should not be used to diagnose or treat prostate cancer. GET ONE OR MORE LIQUID BIOPIES which look at the entire prostate, not just isolated core samples, are urine-based, harmless and far better at diagnosing clinically significant prostate cancer. FORGET ABOUT INVASIVE BIOPSY which is dangerous, potentially misleading, pointless and can spread prostate cancer through needle tracking over ten years. Realize that the lesions you've identified could be a long list of things OTHER THAN prostate cancer. It is not of primary importance what the lesions are. Often pathologists cannot agree among themselves what they are looking at and they cannot predict the future well either. It is important WHAT THEY ARE DOING (growing, shrinking or staying the same). A plain vanilla ultrasound will tell you that with no risk and minimal expense. You don't need a fancy color doppler ultrasound. So here is what you should do right now. Implement a non-invasive treatment protocol. Some suggestions are: Peters. Nutrition, Care Oncology, Ivermectin/Lactoferrin etc. Run your protocol for 90 days then take another ultrasound picture to see what changes in size there is. If the lesion sizes are shrinking or staying the same you can feel reassured. Growing lesions suggest protocol changes. Make any changes you feel appropriate over the next 90 days and take another ultrasound picture to see the effect on lesion size. Only if you cannot stop lesion growth should you consider an invasive biopsy. This is guidance you can take to the bank at little cost and no risk.

    • @1FoundSheep
      @1FoundSheep Місяць тому +1

      @PeterRogersMD FYI. I listened to Dr. McDougal's talk on prostate cancer. I can see why you responded as you did. He adds a tremendous amount of clarity on this whole issue. Thanks again Dr. Rogers!

    • @schmingusss
      @schmingusss Місяць тому

      @@PeterRogersMD I don't know if it's all about money. Here in Canada we have a social medicine system. There is no real impetus for doctors to recommend one form of treatment over another. They get paid either way. They seem to be advising the same sorts of treatments/steps as they did for your case.