Ok so as Kevin Kleinrock…I can say I didn’t expect to be sent THIS 15 years after the fact. And, I’m genuinely blown away by the accuracy of the piece. The ONLY thing that didn’t go down quite as it was laid out is that Mike Johnson from PWInsider called me to give me the news prior to running the story. But accurate, Mike knew from an inside MTV/Viacom source before any of us at WSX or Big Vision were told. Thank you for this incredible piece.
I liked it. But the MTV crap about not 1 punch or chairshot is crap. We should've seen the occasional wrestling move or hold. If only for a touch of narrative. But I understand that it wasn't your fault. I consider myself a fan to this day. (Btw, didn't MTV understand that ANYTHING done on WSX could be replicated, if only in a modified version?)
@@jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545 the logic still baffles me to this day my friend. Like a kid can’t find barbed wire or thumbtacks. But, we had to work with what we were given. Houston Curtis, Big Vision owner and the man responsible for WSX even happening thanks to his connections at MTV and his belief in my idea, has all of the master tapes BEFORE the MTV edits were made and I can only hope that one day he chooses to release them on BluRay or stream them because it would be a very different show. If you watch the WSXtra matches on the DVD set, you’ll see matches edited like actual wrestling matches - some really great wrestling on there.
@@kevinbve What I loved most was that it was closer to ECW than WWECW ever was. But back then I was still an ECW mark & I saw them before watching your replay at, i think it was 12:30 am and i seem to recall replays on Thursday nights. Sorry.
We need to get Kevin Kleinrock a podcast! Loved WSX and wish it would've been given the opportunity to evolve. I'd love to hear more stories about the Urban Wrestling Federation.
@@ajgdwn the UWF was another amazing short lived “let’s do something different to try to expand the audience for wrestling.” I didn’t create that one, that was Steve Karel, but I’m very glad Steve O’Neill brought me in to write and produce alongside him.
MTV did host Sunday Night Heat from 2000-2003. I always though Wrestling Society X was MTV's delayed way of getting wrestling back on the channel. But I loved WSX. It was my introduction to so many indie wrestlers who would become my favorites over the following years. I loved Colt Cabana's Matt Classic gimmick.
I remember watching Wrestling Society X when I was younger and I gotta say it was the second alternative I had ever seen to WWE. The first being NWA-TNA/TNA. Even thinking back now, I still get a smile cause of the silliness of it all and I loved it
The career of Ricky Banderas in America is so weird. Dude held basically every major title in Lucha and then comes to TNA for like two weeks, has a match with Abyss, goes to WSX, goes back to AAA and WWC, then returns as Mil Muertes and completely reinvents his career.
Arik cannon is a mainstay here in the Midwest. He's wrestled on dark and was a Bryan Kendrick on 205 live once. He helped in the training of top flight as well
Thank you for putting my thoughts on wrestling into words. Wrestling is fun when they're willing to have fun with it. I have fond memories of watching Wrestling Society X. I knew it was absolute BS but that car crash excess of destruction was so entertaining to me.
I have the dumbest nostalgia for this show. I realize that it was wrestling junk food with all of the nutrition cut out (storytelling in-ring) and all of the sugar ramped up (high spots/hardcore craziness), but it also came about at a time where I was just starting to learn the names and reputations of some of these indie guys. Once every few years or so I'll go back and watch as much of the show as I can push myself to get through on UA-cam, if not just for appreciation of what it left in it's wake with Lucha Underground and other crazy cinematic wrestling concepts. The commentary was bad, the musical acts and matches rarely got enough time, and some of the concepts were beyond silly, but it was my first glimpse of the Colt Cabanas, Matt Crosses, Scorpio Skys, Joey Kaos's, Tyler Blacks, and Jimmy Jacobs's of the wrestling world. It's nuts to think all of these years later that some are still among my favorite wrestlers.
Thank you, Tom! Great video detailing the promotion. Not going to lie lol… I don’t remember it at all as this was during one of my sabbaticals from the squared circle. Of course, now I’m going to have to try to find the collection. Thanks, mate!!
i was in 6th grade around the time WSX started and i thought it was the coolest shit ever back then lmao. popped big for x-pac and vampiro because i remembered them from old raw and nitro tapes my dad had. also introduced me to guys tyler black, matt sydal and the human tornado
I don't know if they're still all there, but there was a playlist of all of the episodes on UA-cam not too long ago. They were short shows with short matches. Worth a watch if not just to see how far some guys have come since then.
Check out the dvd release. The musical performances are cut but other then that they are pretty complete. It also includes the web show WSExtra which had a lot of good matches on it.
I remember having a sleepover at my buddy's house when I first heard of Wrestling Society X. We stayed up into the early hours of Saturday morning and when we woke up, it was on. I have no idea what about was so intriguing, but I remember loving it. It was such a fever dream. It was super cheesy, but they had some killer talent on their hands.
So strange seeing this! Literally talking about this with my mate! I had no idea Judas Messias was Mil Muertes & neither of us had literally no idea that Tyler Black/Seth Rollins was part of this, he found the DVD in a charity shop & got it haha!
Man I loved WSX when I was younger. I didn't know many people besides Pac and Vampiro and New Jack. I thought Sydal and Jack Evans were insane though and my young brain was getting blown by all the crazy shit.
I loved and miss Wrestling Society X. It was cool to see the musical artists, Jimmy Jacob's and Tyler Black, Havoc, death matches, Syxx, Vampire, and the most valuable person to the entire being of professional wrestling: Matt Classic.
I remember when this launched! I was like "hell yeah this looks like it could be alright" and was disappointed when it just... stopped. I think with less network meddling and a bit more time to settle in it could have grown into something niche but special.
Awesome video, I love that this little time capsule now exists on youtube. It didn't even last 9 episodes here in Australia. From memory it got 2 or 3 weeks at ridiculous times and then it was never seen again. Still, it was a chaotic trainwreck that I could get behind, and I ordered the DVD set with my next highspots order. Here's the thing - this video says you only got to see the ep10 exploding cage match if you bought the DVD. Even then a lot of us didn't get to see it. That episode was all screwed up on the DVD. Highspots replaced it, and the replacement had the same problem. At that point they said there was no point replacing it, as about 75-80% of the DVDs all had the same technical issue.
I do love the idea of “no easily replicated violence” was turned into “just do the most ridiculous acts of violence imaginable and that’s it!” Which just seems to be accomplishing the exact opposite of the original plan.
I argue there was no original plan ather then "give me your money" and most ridiculous acts of violance imaginable?? I must have missed the episode where that one wrestlers was flayed alive
I remember being excited for this show as a kid and how bummed I was when Xpac loss to Vampiro…I think this show came on the same block as Undergrads another great forgotten Mtv show
This show made gimmick matches other feds had tried and failed at actually look cool. Even the piranha tank "bump" looked better than when they did it for real in Japan.
I completely forgot about this until it shows up on my feed and the moment I started the video all the mom worked of watching it came rushing back. It was a different time to be a wrestling fan in the 2000’s and special things like this made it even better even if it was not for everyone.
It was a good idea. The ring announcer was a bit too annoying and the editing was all over the place, but they had a lot of talented wrestlers and there was absolutely an audience in the US for that more FMW style of wrestling show.
I've still got the box set DVD of Wrestling Society X. It didn't really age too well with all the cgi stuff and the guy doing the introductions was annoying. But it is stupid fun and at least the DVD has the final episode on it.
I loved WSX. It was different and felt really interesting at the time but I was also a teenager so that could be why I felt that way. It was just a cool concept and I think Lucha Underground perfected the feeling that WSX pioneered. I also remember WSX being my first time ever seeing certain wrestlers like Jack Evans, Colt Cabana (Matt Classic), Matt Sydal, and Seth Rollins so that was also a huge plus.
I remember Jesus, Carlito's old bodyguard being in the show. I never understood how it was supposed to be a secretive promotion in the show but there were always things exploding? Nobody around noticed this? I loved it! This was such a silly show.
Years after watching WSX as a kid I realize now like probably many of us,. Wrestling Society X was truly the first indy show I ever saw. & I didn't even know what indy wrestling was at the time lol.
didn't WCW have programming on MTV during the Monday night war era? I don't think the music and wrestling concept has been done as well as it could be, here's hoping for the future
MTV gave the platform, and MTV eventually ruined it! Folks that had history and expertise in the wrestling game produced the show…Houston Curtis, Kris Kloss, Kevin Kleinrock and others… But of course, those at MTV with zero wrestling knowledge and/or experience just had to put their two cents in and get involved in creative,…that was the beginning of the end!
The weird thing about MTV cancelling WSX...is that they were worried about content, yet had no problem promoting shows glorifying teenage pregnancies. Kinda weird isn't it.
"wrestling hasn't been featured on MTV since the height of hulkamania" except for WCW spring breakout 1997 and 1998, WCW beach brawl 1999, WWF Tough Enough, and WWF Heat running on MTV only 3 years prior to WSX's debut
I love this haha its bonkers. They have a piranha match. 🤣 Back then i only knew about xpac and vampiro from wcw. This was also the first time i learned about teddy hart and jack evans. And ofcourse Matt Classic aka Colt Cabana 🤣
I hated how they seemed to be setting up a secondary championship with the rivalry between Human Tornado and Jack Evans, only for the show to canned before it could happen.
I enjoyed this show back then, was still in college during that time. Fondly remembered guys like Tyler Black, Jimmy Jacobs, Jack Evans, Ricky Banderas, Vampiro, Scoprio Sky, Teddy Hart, Joey Ryan, etc. Exciting action (well, most of the time) but too many silly FX, match stipulations, no continuity, etc. Dig the underground vibe and some musical performances (like Zakk Wylde). Could have been an earlier version of Lucha Underground.
I liked it for what it was . I definitely would have changed things for sure . But I think it was a fun way to bring younger kids into wrestling. Highspots to draw them in , then it they choose to watch better wrestling , they could go and grow from there . If I was 13 and saw it I woulda loved it and searched for more in Japan and Mexico , indies etc... With internet they could Google who they liked from the show and he exposed to promotions other than WWE
You guys got your info wrong MTV had Sunday Night Heat in the early 00's. They had WCW and WWF show guys up in the late 90's as well and have matches on there Spring Break shows.
Whoa whoa whoa! This guy is supposed to teach me about wrestling but said that the last time wrestling was on MTV (besides Celebrity Deathmatch) was in the 80's... Sir, look up Sunday Night Heat
You made 1 mistake. Before Wrestling Society X, the last time pro wrestling was on MTV was actually 1999. When WCW and MTV teamed up to create SnowBrawl and BeachBrawl.
Heat was aired on MTV from 2000-2003. So no, there had been plenty of exposure to modern wrestling for the MTV audience. Seems like a major oversight for a wrestling channel!
Ok so as Kevin Kleinrock…I can say I didn’t expect to be sent THIS 15 years after the fact. And, I’m genuinely blown away by the accuracy of the piece. The ONLY thing that didn’t go down quite as it was laid out is that Mike Johnson from PWInsider called me to give me the news prior to running the story. But accurate, Mike knew from an inside MTV/Viacom source before any of us at WSX or Big Vision were told. Thank you for this incredible piece.
I liked it. But the MTV crap about not 1 punch or chairshot is crap. We should've seen the occasional wrestling move or hold. If only for a touch of narrative. But I understand that it wasn't your fault. I consider myself a fan to this day. (Btw, didn't MTV understand that ANYTHING done on WSX could be replicated, if only in a modified version?)
@@jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545 the logic still baffles me to this day my friend. Like a kid can’t find barbed wire or thumbtacks. But, we had to work with what we were given. Houston Curtis, Big Vision owner and the man responsible for WSX even happening thanks to his connections at MTV and his belief in my idea, has all of the master tapes BEFORE the MTV edits were made and I can only hope that one day he chooses to release them on BluRay or stream them because it would be a very different show. If you watch the WSXtra matches on the DVD set, you’ll see matches edited like actual wrestling matches - some really great wrestling on there.
@@kevinbve What I loved most was that it was closer to ECW than WWECW ever was. But back then I was still an ECW mark & I saw them before watching your replay at, i think it was 12:30 am and i seem to recall replays on Thursday nights. Sorry.
We need to get Kevin Kleinrock a podcast! Loved WSX and wish it would've been given the opportunity to evolve. I'd love to hear more stories about the Urban Wrestling Federation.
@@ajgdwn the UWF was another amazing short lived “let’s do something different to try to expand the audience for wrestling.” I didn’t create that one, that was Steve Karel, but I’m very glad Steve O’Neill brought me in to write and produce alongside him.
It was pretty much proto-Lucha Underground. And introduced me to many wrestlers who would become mainstays in WWE, AEW, Impact, and MLW.
If I'm not mistaken, the place where WSX takes place is the same place as where Lucha Underground took place
MTV did host Sunday Night Heat from 2000-2003. I always though Wrestling Society X was MTV's delayed way of getting wrestling back on the channel.
But I loved WSX. It was my introduction to so many indie wrestlers who would become my favorites over the following years. I loved Colt Cabana's Matt Classic gimmick.
I know I wasn’t the only person that remembered this. They used to have the badass promo vids.
Wcw had shows on MTV during the late 90s wrestling boom
I loved Wrestle Society X. I remember finding it randomly on MTV Tre's
That's where I found it too.
I remember watching Wrestling Society X when I was younger and I gotta say it was the second alternative I had ever seen to WWE. The first being NWA-TNA/TNA. Even thinking back now, I still get a smile cause of the silliness of it all and I loved it
The career of Ricky Banderas in America is so weird. Dude held basically every major title in Lucha and then comes to TNA for like two weeks, has a match with Abyss, goes to WSX, goes back to AAA and WWC, then returns as Mil Muertes and completely reinvents his career.
Wait a second...Judas Messias or however you spell it, that's Mil Muertes!? 🤯
@@IamMichael365 yes
Wrestling society X is what happens when you turn cinematic matches into an entire promotion
Arik cannon is a mainstay here in the Midwest. He's wrestled on dark and was a Bryan Kendrick on 205 live once. He helped in the training of top flight as well
glad he got a shout out
Thank you for putting my thoughts on wrestling into words. Wrestling is fun when they're willing to have fun with it.
I have fond memories of watching Wrestling Society X. I knew it was absolute BS but that car crash excess of destruction was so entertaining to me.
I have the dumbest nostalgia for this show. I realize that it was wrestling junk food with all of the nutrition cut out (storytelling in-ring) and all of the sugar ramped up (high spots/hardcore craziness), but it also came about at a time where I was just starting to learn the names and reputations of some of these indie guys. Once every few years or so I'll go back and watch as much of the show as I can push myself to get through on UA-cam, if not just for appreciation of what it left in it's wake with Lucha Underground and other crazy cinematic wrestling concepts. The commentary was bad, the musical acts and matches rarely got enough time, and some of the concepts were beyond silly, but it was my first glimpse of the Colt Cabanas, Matt Crosses, Scorpio Skys, Joey Kaos's, Tyler Blacks, and Jimmy Jacobs's of the wrestling world. It's nuts to think all of these years later that some are still among my favorite wrestlers.
Man, seeing this really makes me want to see one of these on Lucha Underground for sure.
Thank you, Tom! Great video detailing the promotion. Not going to lie lol… I don’t remember it at all as this was during one of my sabbaticals from the squared circle. Of course, now I’m going to have to try to find the collection. Thanks, mate!!
i was in 6th grade around the time WSX started and i thought it was the coolest shit ever back then lmao. popped big for x-pac and vampiro because i remembered them from old raw and nitro tapes my dad had. also introduced me to guys tyler black, matt sydal and the human tornado
I didn’t realize Wrestling Society X had been a thing. Great wrestling history highlight!
I don't know if they're still all there, but there was a playlist of all of the episodes on UA-cam not too long ago. They were short shows with short matches. Worth a watch if not just to see how far some guys have come since then.
Check out the dvd release. The musical performances are cut but other then that they are pretty complete. It also includes the web show WSExtra which had a lot of good matches on it.
find brian zanes video about it, its awesome
thanks for the suggestions everyone!
I remember watching wrestling society X back in the day.
I remember catching this on repeat in the mid 2000s on MTV and loving it
I remember having a sleepover at my buddy's house when I first heard of Wrestling Society X. We stayed up into the early hours of Saturday morning and when we woke up, it was on. I have no idea what about was so intriguing, but I remember loving it. It was such a fever dream. It was super cheesy, but they had some killer talent on their hands.
So strange seeing this! Literally talking about this with my mate! I had no idea Judas Messias was Mil Muertes & neither of us had literally no idea that Tyler Black/Seth Rollins was part of this, he found the DVD in a charity shop & got it haha!
Man I loved WSX when I was younger. I didn't know many people besides Pac and Vampiro and New Jack. I thought Sydal and Jack Evans were insane though and my young brain was getting blown by all the crazy shit.
Yo I was super young when I watched this. All these years later I honestly thought this promotion was a fever dream
They only thing i remember is randomly catching an episode where the main event was a tables ladders y cervezas match
I loved and miss Wrestling Society X. It was cool to see the musical artists, Jimmy Jacob's and Tyler Black, Havoc, death matches, Syxx, Vampire, and the most valuable person to the entire being of professional wrestling: Matt Classic.
I remember when this launched! I was like "hell yeah this looks like it could be alright" and was disappointed when it just... stopped. I think with less network meddling and a bit more time to settle in it could have grown into something niche but special.
Thanks and safety to ya all as always! What a throwback!
We did a watch along of the season on Smash Zone. It was fun to go back and see some familiar faces and the others that are names today.
Awesome video, I love that this little time capsule now exists on youtube.
It didn't even last 9 episodes here in Australia. From memory it got 2 or 3 weeks at ridiculous times and then it was never seen again.
Still, it was a chaotic trainwreck that I could get behind, and I ordered the DVD set with my next highspots order.
Here's the thing - this video says you only got to see the ep10 exploding cage match if you bought the DVD. Even then a lot of us didn't get to see it. That episode was all screwed up on the DVD. Highspots replaced it, and the replacement had the same problem. At that point they said there was no point replacing it, as about 75-80% of the DVDs all had the same technical issue.
I do love the idea of “no easily replicated violence” was turned into “just do the most ridiculous acts of violence imaginable and that’s it!” Which just seems to be accomplishing the exact opposite of the original plan.
I argue there was no original plan ather then "give me your money" and most ridiculous acts of violance imaginable??
I must have missed the episode where that one wrestlers was flayed alive
I Remember This It Aired After TNA Impact premiered on Spike TV and this aired on MTV my introduction to New Jack RIP
Another good video from Thomas and editing crew
I'm pretty sure my first experience of "wrestling" outside of WWF/E & ECW was WSX. Cool to see people still talking about it.
I remember being excited for this show as a kid and how bummed I was when Xpac loss to Vampiro…I think this show came on the same block as Undergrads another great forgotten Mtv show
Vampiro was the MVP in this promotion
Syxx was a pretty big deal there too and I loved that. Was always a Sean Waltman fan.
This show made gimmick matches other feds had tried and failed at actually look cool. Even the piranha tank "bump" looked better than when they did it for real in Japan.
I completely forgot about this until it shows up on my feed and the moment I started the video all the mom worked of watching it came rushing back. It was a different time to be a wrestling fan in the 2000’s and special things like this made it even better even if it was not for everyone.
Wrestling Society X (sorta) walked so Lucha Underground could run!
It was more like a quick sprint 🙃
@@kevinbve yes totally fair 😂
I bought these DVDs on Amazon for like 10 bucks. One of the best purchases I've ever made. It was so ahead of its time.
Cheers for the "Not with a bang, but with a whimper" line, if no one else did, I got the reference~ !
My goal was to make my high school English teacher/Drama teacher/Speech & Debate coach proud..
My guilty pleasure was the tag team: That 70s Team, disco machine and Joey Ryan , too bad never found the tag team theme song they used.
Thank you for doing this video!
I remember watching these and didn’t hate it, was a nice little fill in time when it was on MTV
It was a good idea. The ring announcer was a bit too annoying and the editing was all over the place, but they had a lot of talented wrestlers and there was absolutely an audience in the US for that more FMW style of wrestling show.
You missed the fact that in the early 2000's, Sunday Night Heat was on MTV.
THE HISTORY OF WRESTLING Society X would probably be a lot cooler than the original Wrestling Society X
Would love a video similar to this on lucha underground.
The metric ton of cocaine the person who recorded the voiceover for this was clearly on really brought some authenticity.
I've still got the box set DVD of Wrestling Society X. It didn't really age too well with all the cgi stuff and the guy doing the introductions was annoying. But it is stupid fun and at least the DVD has the final episode on it.
The Pitbull episode still has the best commentary ever
I loved WSX. It was different and felt really interesting at the time but I was also a teenager so that could be why I felt that way. It was just a cool concept and I think Lucha Underground perfected the feeling that WSX pioneered. I also remember WSX being my first time ever seeing certain wrestlers like Jack Evans, Colt Cabana (Matt Classic), Matt Sydal, and Seth Rollins so that was also a huge plus.
I maintain to this day that the Matt Classic character SPECIFICALLY in the WSX environment is one of the best characters in wrestling history.
Matt classic was/is one of the greatest gimmicks ever created.....shame we didn't get more
he needs to make a return in AEW.
on a related note: I would also love to see Curryman make his AEW debut. perhaps the two should team up?
I vividly recall watching the first episode of Wrestling Society X, because it's the only wrestling show I ever gave up on after only watching once...
Wrestling Society X is the reason Human Tornado is one of my favorite wrestlers
I have a boxed set of every episode on dvd that I got from FYE when it was on sale with a “best of CM Punk in ROH” dvd. Lol
I heard of this promotion on a video done on All Caw Wrestling’s channel because of the popularity of Lucha Underground.
Teddy hart was there too I remember watching this kinda reminds me of lucha underground before lucha underground
I remember Jesus, Carlito's old bodyguard being in the show. I never understood how it was supposed to be a secretive promotion in the show but there were always things exploding? Nobody around noticed this? I loved it! This was such a silly show.
It was super hokey and from what I remember it was only half hour show. But I still watched and enjoyed it while it lasted.
Years after watching WSX as a kid I realize now like probably many of us,. Wrestling Society X was truly the first indy show I ever saw. & I didn't even know what indy wrestling was at the time lol.
didn't WCW have programming on MTV during the Monday night war era? I don't think the music and wrestling concept has been done as well as it could be, here's hoping for the future
What? Had no idea this existed. Sounds mental 😄
I remember loving it as a kid, should have kept going they had some talent.
So WSX is the Smackdown of XPW.
MTV gave the platform, and MTV eventually ruined it! Folks that had history and expertise in the wrestling game produced the show…Houston Curtis, Kris Kloss, Kevin Kleinrock and others… But of course, those at MTV with zero wrestling knowledge and/or experience just had to put their two cents in and get involved in creative,…that was the beginning of the end!
I still got that DVD Box Set with autographs ^^
one of the better small time short lived promotions
i got the 4 disc dvd, loved wrestling society x
The weird thing about MTV cancelling WSX...is that they were worried about content, yet had no problem promoting shows glorifying teenage pregnancies. Kinda weird isn't it.
"wrestling hasn't been featured on MTV since the height of hulkamania"
except for WCW spring breakout 1997 and 1998, WCW beach brawl 1999, WWF Tough Enough, and WWF Heat running on MTV only 3 years prior to WSX's debut
I love this haha its bonkers. They have a piranha match. 🤣 Back then i only knew about xpac and vampiro from wcw. This was also the first time i learned about teddy hart and jack evans. And ofcourse Matt Classic aka Colt Cabana 🤣
Wrestling was shown on MTV for a good while with Sunday Night Heat and Tough Enough
Love the Tom pieces!
I hated how they seemed to be setting up a secondary championship with the rivalry between Human Tornado and Jack Evans, only for the show to canned before it could happen.
Pablo 🐈⬛ looks adorable 😍 protect @ all cost!!!!!^^ 🐾
I enjoyed this show back then, was still in college during that time. Fondly remembered guys like Tyler Black, Jimmy Jacobs, Jack Evans, Ricky Banderas, Vampiro, Scoprio Sky, Teddy Hart, Joey Ryan, etc. Exciting action (well, most of the time) but too many silly FX, match stipulations, no continuity, etc. Dig the underground vibe and some musical performances (like Zakk Wylde). Could have been an earlier version of Lucha Underground.
MTV had WWF Sunday Night Heat in the late 90s/early 2000s when Monday Night Raw was on Spike TV/TNN instead of the USA Network.
Honestly the only match I ever remembered from this event was vampiro versus waltman.
I almost forgot about this short lived wrestling program...
Was TNA not on Tuesdays at the time like I specifically remember Perc Angle and Sting being on TV mid week as a kid
I remember watching this & Scarred back in 2007
actually mtv showed two wcw shows in 1999 beach brawl and snow brawl nearly a decade after the height of hulkamania
My first exposure to Teddy Hart. I thought he was gonna be huge
One of the biggest what ifs in wrestling
O yes so many independent darlings in here and future WWE stars. Vampiro was my favorite.
Ohhhhhh yeah. I remembered this on MTV Hahahahaha
Love the Cobra Kai shout.
Woah... I had no clue that "Temptations" cat treats were called ""Dreamies" in The UK lol. Temptations is a far better name, honestly...
Wow I remember Wrestling Society X
I liked it for what it was . I definitely would have changed things for sure . But I think it was a fun way to bring younger kids into wrestling. Highspots to draw them in , then it they choose to watch better wrestling , they could go and grow from there . If I was 13 and saw it I woulda loved it and searched for more in Japan and Mexico , indies etc... With internet they could Google who they liked from the show and he exposed to promotions other than WWE
WSX was the best goddamn thing ever...im sad I can give only one "like"
Actually I used to watch WWE Heat on MTV before PPVs all the time so wrestling on MTV was present
All I remember about this is the overuse of 'coughs up blood' as a trope
You guys got your info wrong MTV had Sunday Night Heat in the early 00's. They had WCW and WWF show guys up in the late 90's as well and have matches on there Spring Break shows.
I loved it at the time I was so disappointed it got canceled.
You can imagine how good the fed did when you can do the history of it in 15 mins 🤣
Whoa whoa whoa! This guy is supposed to teach me about wrestling but said that the last time wrestling was on MTV (besides Celebrity Deathmatch) was in the 80's... Sir, look up Sunday Night Heat
there was wrestling on MTV in between Hulkamania and 2006, ie WCW had those few live shows out on the beach and stuff. youre welcome! :p
The "fan" with the red glowstick kinda looks like Claire Lynch.
You made 1 mistake. Before Wrestling Society X, the last time pro wrestling was on MTV was actually 1999. When WCW and MTV teamed up to create SnowBrawl and BeachBrawl.
Watched the debut episode and turned it tf off after the second episode I thought it was a damn fever dream lol
I do have the box set they released back then
Heat was aired on MTV from 2000-2003. So no, there had been plenty of exposure to modern wrestling for the MTV audience. Seems like a major oversight for a wrestling channel!