NuPhy Air75 V2 vs Lofree Flow - The Rematch

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  • The NuPhy Air75 V2 now has even more features and improved specs compared to the original, while the Lofree Flow still has the most unique typing feel and great design. Which one would you chose?
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:32 NuPhy Linear Sound
    02:00 Lofree Linear Sound
    02:30 NuPhy Tactile Sound
    02:53 Lofree Tactile Sound
    03:20 Feature & Spec Comparison
    08:27 Subjective Comparison
    11:33 Recommendation
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  • @CalmConcept
    @CalmConcept 5 місяців тому +26

    The Air75 V2 is great but damn that Lofree sounds creamy.

  • @SunsetNova
    @SunsetNova 7 місяців тому +113

    We need a Lofree Flow v2.0 with QMK support and a larger battery

    • @Mickstar305
      @Mickstar305 7 місяців тому +28

      Also with foldable feet

    • @hueynguyen85
      @hueynguyen85 7 місяців тому +5

      so true @@Mickstar305 the feet design on the lofree flow is terrible.

    • @parcylohLu
      @parcylohLu 6 місяців тому +10

      seems like we need a combo of Lofree Flow and Nuphy Air75V2 here🤣

    • @googlereviewer1944
      @googlereviewer1944 6 місяців тому +8

      v2 version is coming in 2024.

    • @thestreamreader
      @thestreamreader 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes! I am down for this.

  • @user-wl6bb6sz7y
    @user-wl6bb6sz7y 7 місяців тому +11

    This video is so relevant thank you for existing!

  • @MaximSalazar
    @MaximSalazar 3 місяці тому +2

    Exactly what I was looking for, thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @ScottiPewPew
    @ScottiPewPew 7 місяців тому +8

    Eagerly awaiting my Nuphy v2 👍🏻

  • @excitedatom1403
    @excitedatom1403 4 місяці тому +5

    Thank you, I appreciate, it after watching so many type tests, there's a person that can touch type and doesn't just mash the keys in an effort to make it look like you are. Also the 4 finger hunters are also pretty painful to watch, so THANK YOU!

  • @TXLogic
    @TXLogic 6 місяців тому +2

    Excellent review all around, both content and video/sound quality. Subbed.

  • @trinifella1
    @trinifella1 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for this! Holy the Lofree sounds amazing, both versions!

  • @balletshark0101
    @balletshark0101 7 місяців тому +2

    Love your videos, so high quality! Excited for your channel to grow

  • @santaBarbaraCyclist
    @santaBarbaraCyclist 6 місяців тому +15

    Ok, didn't know I needed a new kb, but I just ordered the Lofree flow. Great video. Thanks.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 6 місяців тому +1

      How do you like it?

    • @ethernet764
      @ethernet764 Місяць тому

      How is it?

    • @andremessado7659
      @andremessado7659 Місяць тому

      @@ethernet764 It's freaking amazing. I love it. It sounds and feels like marbled butter, whatever that is. Also get the white one, unless you're really into tactiles.

    • @ethernet764
      @ethernet764 Місяць тому

      @andremessado7659 Excellent. I got the black phantom switches first. Ordered the white ghost switches as well. Will return one of them 😅

  • @thisisxopollloo
    @thisisxopollloo 25 днів тому

    Great vid! that's what I was looking for

  • @dimakramarenko8292
    @dimakramarenko8292 6 місяців тому

    Great review. Thank you!!

  • @nebulazykbs
    @nebulazykbs 7 місяців тому +16

    I think the low profile keyboard comparisons are few and far between, so I really appreciate your videos! I ordered the Lofree Flow linear a few months ago during the WhatGeek sale, but it still hasn't shipped yet. I assume it's because I also ordered the 8BitDo keyboard, which is taking longer to ship. At any rate, I am still interested in maybe purchasing the Air V2, as I was not interested in the first version. However, I did select the Lofree because of the typing and sound experience, which is most important to me for keyboards in general.

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  7 місяців тому +3

      Thanks! It's hard to beat the typing feel and sound of the Flow for a low profile keyboard, so I think you'll enjoy it when it arrives!

    • @nebulazykbs
      @nebulazykbs 7 місяців тому +2

      @@semiprotech I just got it in the mail and I am completely blown away. I did not anticipate it being this good!! It sounds and feels amazing.

  • @Tchongyy
    @Tchongyy 7 місяців тому +22

    Lofree flow still is the winner to me, the typing feel and sound is so creamy

    • @fomingera65
      @fomingera65 3 місяці тому

      I love muphy, but lofree sounds 100x better lol.

    • @matheaumichalak7537
      @matheaumichalak7537 26 днів тому +1

      Lofree wins by FAR.
      Nuphy’s switches feel like hot garbage.

  • @VioletJewel1729
    @VioletJewel1729 2 місяці тому

    thank you. concise as to what people are looking for

  • @rey031
    @rey031 7 місяців тому +43

    I bought both. My main use for a mechanical keyboard is to type on it for hours on end. For that, the Lofree Flow wins for me. The typing feel and sound, no clackiness, sleek sexy aluminum case all around, slimmer, and gasket mount feel. I don't need key customizations, I actually like how the backlight partially shines through, and bluetooth has worked well for me despite my preference for 2.4ghz wireless. My Nuphy Air75 v2 went back in its box.

    • @parcylohLu
      @parcylohLu 6 місяців тому +1

      why not sell it in second hand market, could've been a great option for someone else😊

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 6 місяців тому

      Would you be interested in selling it?

    • @TheQuangBang
      @TheQuangBang 5 місяців тому

      Which would you say is better to throw it into the backpack and whip it out quickly on the road? Eg in a café or something similar, on top of a laptop.

    • @mmansour5040
      @mmansour5040 5 місяців тому +2

      linear or tactcile flow?

    • @fime6311
      @fime6311 4 місяці тому

      Wow, great that retailer allows you to trying out products. Here in au, no retailer accept returns.

  • @AngelTing
    @AngelTing 7 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for your review and I found my favourite keyboard! NuPhy air 75 V2 with cowberry switch is simply unbeatable!

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  7 місяців тому +2

      I agree, cowberry is my favorite switch from NuPhy!

  • @Silverjerk
    @Silverjerk 6 місяців тому +6

    My only issue with Nuphy is the accent colors. Which aftermarket keycaps did you end up with? I bought a pair of the Keychron low profile for my V1, but wondering if there’s a better option than those.

  • @somatichuman8752
    @somatichuman8752 6 місяців тому +2

    All Kail switches are suitable for LoFree. And these are 3 for their special keycaps (keycaps will need to be replaced) and 3 new formats already available on the market. Plus, these two are special for LoFree and if you look there are also pink and some other limited versions. Therefore, it is possible that Kail switches, on the contrary, have the largest differnt types.
    Another thing is that they all have single-stage springs. I have no idea what the difference is between them))))

  • @mistsrider
    @mistsrider 6 місяців тому +23

    I really don't understand why for low profile keyboards they never specify the lowest height closest to your wrists vs the tallest height. That is massively important for wrist comfort on a portable keyboard if you don't want to be carrying around a wrist rest all the time.

  • @seventeencents
    @seventeencents 5 місяців тому +11

    The Lofree Flow looks, sounds, and feels nicer without a doubt, but without VIA and switch swapping compatibility it’s a nonstarter. I could overlook the lack of VIA in this layout, but the switch support is a hard dealbreaker.
    Kailh and Lofree really guaranteed I wouldn’t consider their product by intentionally designing their switch pins to be incompatible with other low profile switches. For the same reason I won’t consider a keyboard with Outemu hot swap sockets or Keychron optical switches, etc. I won’t consider the Flow.
    Being locked in artificially to a certain brand’s switches (rather than being able to choose the best ones for me on their own merit) is pretty antithetical to what I enjoy about mechanical keyboards in the first place.

    • @xblur17
      @xblur17 5 місяців тому

      Those things don't matter to me and most people looking for a keyboard, it's for the niche/enthusiast community. We care about aesthetics and typing experience. The Lofree Flow just wins there with ease.

    • @bobbobson6290
      @bobbobson6290 4 місяці тому

      I don't know. Looks boring to me.
      I like some color.

  • @ericmci
    @ericmci 2 місяці тому

    Hi. Price being equal. Which would you choose. Typing feel is my priority.

  • @timmax68
    @timmax68 6 місяців тому +3

    Great comparison.
    Do Nuphy low profile keycaps compatible with Lofree Flow KB?

    • @TheIamFly
      @TheIamFly 6 місяців тому

      Hi! I'm trying to find the answer to that question too, have you found out anything about that?

  • @kazirasostudio9660
    @kazirasostudio9660 2 місяці тому

    I just bought the white Nuphy Air75 V2 with Wisteria switches, love the feel and sound, a bit heavier than the V1 but still recommended for travel.

  • @BudaSuyasa
    @BudaSuyasa 5 місяців тому +2

    I own Nuphy Air 75 V2 with Wisteria switch. The board definitely the best keyboard i've typed on. I also own Keychron K3 V2. From K3 V2 to Nuphy Air 75 V2 was a huge upgrade in term of everything. Maybe, Nuphy Air 75 V2 is the best low profile keyboard you can find on market right now.

  • @pavvel9884
    @pavvel9884 3 місяці тому +3

    What’s the best choice of switches on the air75 to replicate the white lofree feel?

  • @imamop576beetle
    @imamop576beetle 6 місяців тому +2

    This comparison is one of the most helpful I've seen! I'm considering both of these right now but mainly informing purchase on finger pain where impact of tactile feeling or kinda solid feeling keyboards, as well as heavy switches... So I'm unsure about the heavier actuation force of the switches on the Lofree compared to Nuphy's linears but at the same time the Air75 not having any flex seems like it may be an issue too 😅 Loving seeing the new innovation in this space though!

  • @kador7182
    @kador7182 2 місяці тому

    which one would you recommend for small hands ? or do you have any other recommendations ?

  • @kyuriii
    @kyuriii 2 місяці тому +1

    Lack of remappability on the Flow is a dealbreaker for me. Sad because I prefer the sound to the Air. Thanks for the great sound tests!

  • @Stinger913
    @Stinger913 4 місяці тому +2

    Wish Nuphy had a subdued sound like Lofree flow for office work.

  • @SeviersKain
    @SeviersKain 6 місяців тому +2

    NuPhy is the keyboard that I really love, and I got 3 of 'em: Air 60, 60 and 75...they are just fantastic...

    • @curseknight5
      @curseknight5 5 місяців тому

      which switches do you enjoy the most for typing?

    • @SeviersKain
      @SeviersKain 5 місяців тому

      @@curseknight5 75 -- Breeze switches, the thockiest one...feels really good, but I think they could even do better, we'll see...

  • @longtran5126
    @longtran5126 5 місяців тому

    I have a chance to buy either Lofree or Nuphy Air75 V2 for the same price, which one should I buy? I prefer on the type experience & the look than other features.

  • @KalDev-yj4ft
    @KalDev-yj4ft 7 місяців тому +4

    Just got my nuphy v2 and i am really happy with it

  • @jGRite
    @jGRite 7 місяців тому +28

    The number one reason I got the Nuphy Air75v2 was the fact that it is QMK/VIA compatible. Without that there's little reason to deal with a keyboard.

    • @amitkulkarni3922
      @amitkulkarni3922 7 місяців тому +6

      As of now, the QMK support is only on wired and Nuphy is actually false advertising because they aren't open-sourcing the wireless connection for QMK which goes against GPL license

    • @balls991
      @balls991 7 місяців тому

      ​@@amitkulkarni3922Does that mean that changes made via qmk software won't work on wireless mode?

    • @chezchezchezchez
      @chezchezchezchez 6 місяців тому +1

      So what is aMit talking about? Thanks.

    • @parcylohLu
      @parcylohLu 6 місяців тому +2

      I chose Keychron K3 Pro earlier this year over Nuphy Air75v1 for its VIA feature, but switched to Nuphy keycaps (look way better than keychron's), now V2 got VIA as well, I immediately bought V2 to replace my K3 pro😁

    • @bojack3827
      @bojack3827 6 місяців тому +1

      @jGRite If you're a Windows users can use Microsoft's Power Toys and the keyboard manager utility within that to remap the keys on the Lofree Flow. There are various other keyboard remapping utilities available as well.

  • @diegom.4537
    @diegom.4537 Місяць тому

    Damn, been researching and the Air75 with Cowberry or Wisteria switches and that travel case seems outstanding to typing in public.

  • @_asaa
    @_asaa 3 місяці тому

    what after market key caps did you get for the lofree?

  • @koobs4549
    @koobs4549 3 місяці тому

    The Lowfree Flow seems like a great start. If they release a V2 with some of the complaints addressed, I’d definitely consider. It seems a little overpriced for the features but if they update to address these issues, I think it would be worth the price

  • @bernRA
    @bernRA 7 місяців тому +1

    did you see that NuPHY just sent out pre release invites for the V2 of Air96? im looking forward to your review!

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  7 місяців тому

      Yes I'm excited for that!

  • @samdeur
    @samdeur 2 місяці тому

    Your putting out great reviews my compliment.. i'm not even typing on that board but i can feel what your saying and it resonates 100%.. btw what's that crap about switch pins being different.
    That sucks big time never knew that .. i don't have a low profile board but that seems like a show stopper.

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! Yeah low profile switches vary a bit by manufacturer unfortunately...Gateron and Kailh have their pins in different positions so no swapping between them. I'm not sure why it's like that with low profile switches when regular switches are pretty much consistent across manufacturers.

  • @googlereviewer1944
    @googlereviewer1944 7 місяців тому +5

    I have both of these keyboards - Lofree with the linear switches and the Nuphy with the Aloe and Cowberry. Both keyboards have the frustrations - the Lofree because of its lack of features and the Nuphy because of how rattly and hollow the switches/keyboard sounds. I'm half way through a project of taking apart the Nuphy to lube the switches and stabs with some krytox and add some pebax or similar into the case.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 6 місяців тому

      Which do you prefer?

    • @googlereviewer1944
      @googlereviewer1944 6 місяців тому +2

      For the typing action sound/feel, the Lofree Flow with linear switches is better than the Nuphy. The Lofree sounds more buttery whereas the Nuphy rattles more. For features such as QMK/VIA then obviously the Nuphy. However Lofree are releasing a v2 version in 2024 with these sort of features. @@NinjaSushi2

    • @BudaSuyasa
      @BudaSuyasa 5 місяців тому

      @@googlereviewer1944 If that's true, here we go again. My wallet will empty again LOL

    • @andremessado7659
      @andremessado7659 4 місяці тому +2

      @@googlereviewer1944 "However Lofree are releasing a v2 version in 2024" - Thank you for including that in your post. I think i'll wait for V2.

    • @pritishpatil7659
      @pritishpatil7659 Місяць тому

      Is it possible to put nuphy shine through keys on lofree flow?

  • @nilsirrah7672
    @nilsirrah7672 Місяць тому

    I think you could have talked about the case that the nuphy v2 come with. I think it’s especially good for people with pets and cats especially and is good to keep it clean from fur or when u eat snacks in front of your computer sometimes

  • @This.is.Emily.N
    @This.is.Emily.N 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm using the Lofree Flow. The battery will be a problem if you guys want to bring it outside a lot. I'm fine with it cause it sits still on my desk. The real sound is not like in most of the videos, it's not that thock, can't blame cause it's a low-profile anyway. I'm getting used to it cause before that I used a very creamy high-profile mechanical keyboard. I change to this one because it hurts my wrist and I'm tired of using the wrist rest.

    • @parcylohLu
      @parcylohLu 6 місяців тому +1

      I get outside with my laptop and keyboard a lot, so I want my keyboard fit nicely on my laptop's built-in keyboard, seems like Lofree might accidentally press the keys, but nuphy fits perfectly

    • @googlereviewer1944
      @googlereviewer1944 6 місяців тому

      I've experienced no issues with the battery. For normal office work, mine lasts about 3 weeks before charging. The power management of it is really good. Powers off quickly and wakes from sleep quickly as well (unlike the awful power management on Keychrons)

  • @luxeave
    @luxeave 2 місяці тому

    just bought white nuphy air75 v2. I specifically bought it to replace my previous linear normal profile keyboard, which sounds to my liking - but introduces typing error due to minimal linear resistance - when I'm just chilling and not thinking when typing, I would have aaa, ss, just extra unwanted characters due to the nature of linear switches. now I chose tactile moss switch, and it is as I hoped it would be, just perfection for me. it literally boosted my wpm by 10-20. I rarely have typing error, and the sound although not as marbly as my linear kb, it is just perfect, it grows on me.
    and lastly, I replaced the alphabets, arrows, pgup and pgdn keycaps with xvx seethrough keycaps, and now I can see the legends lighted beautifully.

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad you are liking it! Love to hear that you found the right combination for you. Everyday typing is so much more enjoyable when you find just the right keyboard and switches.

  • @iijj22gg
    @iijj22gg 4 місяці тому +1

    I recently got the Air 75 v2. I've only used cheap membrane in the past, and was getting frustrated by how sluggish it felt, as someone who dabbles in rhythm games. I wanted a smaller mechanical keyboard I could put over my laptop keyboard and also set on my desk, and the Air 75 fit that perfectly while having way more customizations and features than I expected. I don't really care about how the switches feel right now since I'm coming from membrane, but I don't like the sound of clicky keys and I heard Cherry reds were good for rhythm games, so I went with their Gateron red option. Since getting my Air 75 v2, it has completely blown away my expectations, and I'm very easily beating my old scores with it. It feels like a whole new league compared to membrane, and it's even replaced the Bluetooth keyboard I use with my tablet.
    I just wish Nuphy sold seperate low-profile numberpads. I chose the 75% for portability and space, but I miss touch typing the calculator with the numberpad.

  • @vwmusicplaylist1935
    @vwmusicplaylist1935 7 місяців тому +20

    Interesting and timely video as I recently bought the Lofree and am also considering the Nuphy v2! Here's my take on the Lofree Flow.
    PROS:
    1. Nice typing action - definitely different and more 'plush' sounding compared to every other low profile keyboard I've tried. Keys sound like proper lubed switches. No hint of rattliness, which is great.
    2. Adding 'O' rings (40A hardness/1.5mm thickness) to the keycap stems significantly reduces the noise on each keystroke - useful if you work in a share office, at night, or simply prefer quieter keystrokes.
    3. A sound dampening mat underneath the keyboard also reduces the noise/resonance through the aluminium case/desk - you can even use the including foam pad supplied in the box.
    4. Compatible with many other keycaps. The Nuphy ABS 'shine through' keycaps actually work with the Lofree and vastly improves the backlighting due to the shine through key legends. XVX low profile keycaps also work and they come in different varieties and colors including PBT and shine through etc.
    5. Well built and feels like a quality product.
    6. Power management, wake from sleep, bluetooth connectivity etc is good and with no issues (I've been using this keyboard for the last couple of months using bluetooth to switch from desktop to 2 other work laptops on a daily basis).
    CONS:
    1. The Phantom tactile switches produce a very definite key action (you know exactly when you've hit the key correctly which touch typists may like). Personally, I feel that the actuation is a bit 'heavy' with slightly more resistance than I would like and I don't love the feel of the keys when they bottom out and strike the backplate as its doesn't feel that cushioned to me (though I'm probably used to laptop membrane/scissor switch keyboards). Phantom tacticle advertised at around 50gf but I wish they were slightly lighter eg. 40gf or 45gf actuation. I think I would prefer the Ghost linear switches over the Phantom tactile switches. Make sure you order a set of each switches if you're unsure!
    2. There is NO Fn-Lock on this keyboard. In other words you cannot change the default function key action only using the keyboard. My keyboard has F-Keys as default. This drives me nuts as I want media keys enabled by default. Some other users have reported that they have media keys enabled by default which is odd. The comments from Lofree on this issue on Reddit makes absolutely no sense. They simply have not enabled any sort of FN-Lock or switching on this keyboard at all.
    3. The backlighting is useless but this can be cured by getting some shine through key caps (see above). Shine through keycaps make a HUGE difference to the legibility of the keys in darkness.
    4. No QMK/VIA key mapping option. You can use Windows Powertoys and the keyboard remapping function within that but this only works to some extent as you cannot replicate certain keystroke combinations. Remapping single keys is easy enough though eg. mapping F3 to say CTRL + . (period) for an emoji popup or some other CTRL+SHIFT+KEY type function. However, you cannot map say FN+Volume Up to F12 for example.
    5. Only 2 switch options. As mentioned above, personally I'd like to see a lighter linear switch option.
    OVERALL
    If the Lofree could be combined with the Nuphy, ie Lofree POM/gasket/dampening etc, with Nuphy's wider range of options, you'd have the perfect keyboard! At the moment, both are good, but neither are perfect....

    • @googlereviewer1944
      @googlereviewer1944 7 місяців тому +3

      I have both of these keyboards and agree with the points you make about the Lofree.

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  7 місяців тому +6

      Excellent assessment! I couldn't agree more that if someone could combine these two keyboards, it really would be perfect. Functionality of the Air75 V2 with the sound and feel of the Flow would be an endgame keyboard.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 6 місяців тому

      @@semiprotech Collab in the future? :P

  • @vwmusicplaylist1935
    @vwmusicplaylist1935 7 місяців тому +4

    Quick question - are the F-keys on the Nuphy enabled as media keys (volume, brightness etc) by default or F1-F12 etc by default?

    • @changen4125
      @changen4125 7 місяців тому +3

      you can change them with the included software but it is f keys by default with a function key to use media keys

    • @jGRite
      @jGRite 7 місяців тому +3

      Out of the box, the Mac side yes the Window side no.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jGRiterip

  • @onehandmovies
    @onehandmovies 6 місяців тому

    both pass test: holding both shift keys and can write the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? can anyone confirm?

  • @jakobryden
    @jakobryden 5 місяців тому

    Is linear > tactile for these low profile mech. keyboards?
    I love my Cherry MX blue switches in a "normal travel" keyboard (like my Varmilo MIYA Pro), but perhaps for low profile you get the same sense/punch with linear? or is the difference the same (for low profile vs. "normal travel")? thank youuuu

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  5 місяців тому +2

      Great question, I have noticed that with the shorter travel of low profile switches it is easier to bottom-out linear switches, so I'm getting that feeling as the feedback vs. really needing the bump midway through the press. As a result, I tend to have fewer errors while typing on linear low profile switches compared to high profile linear switches. I prefer linears for the smooth feel, but tactile & clicky low profile switches still offer significantly more feedback so if typing accuracy is one of your main priorities, you'll likely still get better results with a tactile or blue low profile switch.

  • @samdeur
    @samdeur 2 місяці тому

    i'm not in the market for a lowProfile board .. but if i was or will be in the future then i 100% agree with you Air75 v2 is definitely the winner no contest .. And that's coming from a keyboard addict.
    typing on a nice Saka68 with hmx cloud switches.... i can see myself buying this board if i ever need a lowprofile travel board.

  • @Loren344
    @Loren344 5 місяців тому

    what low profile keycaps did you use (mentioned at 6:13)?

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  5 місяців тому

      I used these - nothing fancy but they were a little nicer than I expected: www.amazon.com/XVX-Low-Profile-Keycaps-Mechanical/dp/B0CBMNCQJ2

  • @jtn191
    @jtn191 7 місяців тому

    What's the polling rate on the Lofree Flow? Can't find it listed anywhere

    • @bojack3827
      @bojack3827 6 місяців тому

      500hz according to various reviews.

  • @JCMaldonado13
    @JCMaldonado13 7 місяців тому +2

    My Nuphy Air 75 V2 wobbles a lot when typing, is this like a normal thing for low profile keyboards?

    • @parcylohLu
      @parcylohLu 6 місяців тому +1

      No way, perhaps quality control failed on your keyboard? I learned that the first step of the foldable feet is not very tight, if you place V2 with the first step plucked out on your desk, the feet may easily move back into its case if you push it forward, that may be a problem😳

  • @curseknight5
    @curseknight5 5 місяців тому

    are linear switches not pleasurable in terms of typing experience? I always hear people talk about mistakes but darn the sound of those cowberry switches sound so much better than the tactile moss

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  5 місяців тому +1

      I personally love typing on linear switches. I generally do find the likelihood of typing errors increases from Clicky to Tactile to Linear. I personally could not stand the sound of clicky switches all day long, but there's no doubting when you've registered each key press. Tactile has a big range of mild to sharp feedback - the new moss switches offer much more feedback than typical brown switches. I still type accurately on tactile but sometimes just want the smooth feel of linears. I do make a few errors here and there with linears because I'll try to go too fast and won't fully press down a key once in a while, but it's not like a huge ratio of errors. The amount of switch travel also makes a difference - with shorter travel linear switches including low profile, they will bottom out relatively quickly so that helps reduce errors. I've noticed I make a few more errors on high profile linear switches with a traditional 4.0mm travel, and slightly fewer errors on low profile linear switches which have 3.0 to 3.4mm of travel.

    • @curseknight5
      @curseknight5 5 місяців тому

      @@semiprotechi appreciate your feedback! I had some time today and went to a local computer store and realized i also prefer linear's smoothness and made less errors compared to these mx browns i have at home as my first keyboard.

  • @evaaltgauzena3614
    @evaaltgauzena3614 3 місяці тому

    Is it possible to change the switches on air75 to the ghost linear from lofree? That way you'd have best of both worlds

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  3 місяці тому

      Unfortunately no, the Kailh POM switches do not have the same pin positions as Gateron low profile switches, so they are not interchangeable.

  • @juanpablohb6223
    @juanpablohb6223 2 місяці тому

    Are the switches from Lofree compatible with the Nuphy Air 75? It seems the option is to buy the Nuphy and replace the switches with the ones from Lofree 🤔

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  2 місяці тому

      Unfortunately no, the switches are not interchangeable. The pins are in different positions than the Gateron switches in the Air75 V2.

  • @se7enity648
    @se7enity648 16 днів тому

    The Nuphy Air75 v2 is excellent apart from not being able to have a bright white light on the back light.

  • @ToddMontague-vr1wy
    @ToddMontague-vr1wy 5 місяців тому

    I was all set to pull the pin on getting the Lofree Flow until I saw your video. I'm going to do a little more research, but I'm firmly leaning towards team Nuphy now. Thank you very much.

  • @samdeur
    @samdeur 2 місяці тому

    qmk/Via support puts it over everything else.. sure the internals of the lofree flow are better meaning the building like screws and nice eva foam and silicone .. But the qmk/via and better battery is a killer..

  • @bluuberg
    @bluuberg День тому

    Thanks for your very informative video, I'm in the market for a new keyboard and every video and opinion helps ^^

  • @riomarchello7080
    @riomarchello7080 2 місяці тому

    I don’t need the QMK/VIA supports, for me the typing feel is more important. Already bought the LoFree Flow & this keyboard could be my end-game (for long time). The accent color on the Nuphy isn’t my favorite too, I like the more “serious-looking” vibes on the LoFree

  • @dwaynehawkins
    @dwaynehawkins 5 місяців тому

    Hello, any chance you can share the tree wallpaper @ 1:20 please ?

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  5 місяців тому +1

      Sure thing! Here you go: basicappleguy.com/basicappleblog/os-x-rancho-cucamonga

  • @Keemochi420
    @Keemochi420 7 місяців тому +4

    i gotta go with lofree I love the sound thats all matters I don't realy tweak any mapping in my keyboard anyways I just want a low profile keyboard that sounds so satisfying to type on and looks minimalistic

  • @Sandilini
    @Sandilini 6 місяців тому +1

    Does the nuphy come with an extra spacebar that’s not yellow?

    • @treal512
      @treal512 5 місяців тому

      Yeah definitely dislike that

  • @dhanarputra555
    @dhanarputra555 6 місяців тому

    I know the alternative low profile keyboard other than NuPhy Air, just like Lofree Flow, just now.
    I guess YT recommendation is far better to lead you into rabbit hole.

  • @DoanThanhBinh91
    @DoanThanhBinh91 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi 👋
    Can change switch between Nuphy anh Lofree? 🤔

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  6 місяців тому +1

      Hi! The switches are not interchangeable between the Lofree and NuPhy. The switches in the Lofree are made by Kailh and they have different pin positions compared to gateron low profile switches.

    • @DoanThanhBinh91
      @DoanThanhBinh91 6 місяців тому

      @@semiprotech Thanks.

  • @richardOracleDBA
    @richardOracleDBA 7 місяців тому +3

    Both look and sound great BUT neither is available with UK keycaps as far as I can see, which rules them out for me.

    • @SunsetNova
      @SunsetNova 7 місяців тому +1

      You can easily learn the ANSI format it’s not difficult

    • @vwmusicplaylist1935
      @vwmusicplaylist1935 7 місяців тому

      You can replace the individual keycaps...

    • @richardOracleDBA
      @richardOracleDBA 7 місяців тому

      @vwmusicplaylist1935 but what Do I replace them with? What other makes of low profile keycaps would fit?

    • @Joshua-vm6xw
      @Joshua-vm6xw 6 місяців тому

      @@richardOracleDBA DSA keycaps should work fine without adding too much overall thickness. I use them on my air60.

  • @mmansour5040
    @mmansour5040 5 місяців тому

    Lofree flow Tactile or Linear? Anyone can chime in?

  • @andyebino3856
    @andyebino3856 Місяць тому

    why always sooo loud keys? i want a total silent mech keyboars..😢

  • @serhii.chernenko
    @serhii.chernenko 7 місяців тому +1

    what about the input lag of nuphy? is it fixed for v2?

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  7 місяців тому +1

      The MCU and wireless polling rates have been upgraded - 2.4GHz is now 1000Hz. I have not had any trouble with mine and it does seem to be more responsive than the V1.

    • @serhii.chernenko
      @serhii.chernenko 7 місяців тому +1

      thanks@@semiprotech

  • @user-mw8un6lm6s
    @user-mw8un6lm6s 3 місяці тому

    Are you considering making VIA mapping tutorials?

  • @aliarsenal6136
    @aliarsenal6136 5 місяців тому

    Can you suggest cheaper option that does the same as Lofree Flow?

  • @georget10i
    @georget10i 7 місяців тому +5

    Lofree sounds amazing. But at $150 it's way too expensive. If it had been $75, I would get one. It needs to be QMK/VIA compatible, needs a bigger battery (1 month battery life would be great), and a 2.4GHz adapter would be great too.

    • @hueynguyen85
      @hueynguyen85 7 місяців тому

      lofree flow with the tactile switches is absolutely mint. amazing that they could achieve that in such a low profile keyboard.

    • @parcylohLu
      @parcylohLu 6 місяців тому

      If it had been the way you described, its price would probably have leveled up further🤣

  • @LastSecBloomer
    @LastSecBloomer 2 місяці тому +1

    Pretty much on point...Lofree looks and sounds better but NuPhy simply offers more.
    Seriously, Lofree, what's with the color being locked into switch type, transparent keycaps, single height, meh batery and the lack of 2.4G? And it's more expensive, to boot. Up your game.
    On a side note, I wish the switch makers would standardize the goddamn pinout so that low profile keyboard crowd isn't locked into just one brand of switches...bastards.

  • @trashtbyghosts
    @trashtbyghosts 3 дні тому

    ur awesome bro

  • @no1blue1
    @no1blue1 7 місяців тому +1

    Quick checking: Do both work well with MAC thu?

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  7 місяців тому +1

      I've not had any issues using them with my Mac, and they're also compatible with iPad and iPhone.

  • @MananaMan
    @MananaMan 6 місяців тому +1

    can you seriously not get ghost switches with the black theme for the lofree? why would they do that lmao

  • @VonzKrugier
    @VonzKrugier 2 місяці тому +1

    Nuphy v2 VS ROG Falchion RX Low Profile?👀

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  2 місяці тому +1

      I actually have the Falchion RX waiting in line for a review so I can definitely do a comparison!

    • @mitsuracer87
      @mitsuracer87 2 місяці тому

      ​compare with the Lofree as well please. I actually have the Lofree and the Falchion arriving today, but im curious to hear your thoughts. Honestly main reason I ordered them is for my 3 year old. I think a low profile keyboard will be easier for him to game on. Don't ask.

  • @bounomejp6423
    @bounomejp6423 Місяць тому

    It seems like the Lofree Flow has a chokehold on us when it comes to thock. Outside of that I'm waiting for a V2 if they create one, cuz Lofree needs to match what Nuphy offers for their price.

  • @wootwoots
    @wootwoots 5 місяців тому

    There is some "reasonate" sound when typing the letters, personaly i wouldnt not stand that for a long time. And its too bad because the overall keystroke sound, sound pretty low. ( well that keyboard is not in my language, so in the end, whatever i would not bought it, but still )

  • @pritishpatil7659
    @pritishpatil7659 Місяць тому

    Can we put nuphy keys on lofree flow?

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  Місяць тому

      The keycaps are both MX so yes you can! The switches are not interchangeable but the keycaps will work.

  • @erroldtumaque3430
    @erroldtumaque3430 Місяць тому

    The loFree backlighting kind of kills it for me

  • @serisingh
    @serisingh 6 місяців тому +1

    I wish the Lofree flow came in a 96 size!

    • @FunFactOfTheDay
      @FunFactOfTheDay 4 місяці тому

      It does! Click the 100 key layout option on the website, the photo will pop right up.

  • @Reznik88
    @Reznik88 4 місяці тому +2

    both lofree sound worlds better than the nuphy in sound test

  • @Mittelmadsbjerg
    @Mittelmadsbjerg 5 місяців тому +1

    Sad they dont come in nordic layout :/

  • @icspawn
    @icspawn 5 місяців тому +1

    Lofree smashes nuphy. Sounds great.

  • @DMCnME
    @DMCnME 4 місяці тому +1

    Lofree wins on sound. Nuphy on everything else.

  • @johanb.7869
    @johanb.7869 26 днів тому

    I miss the curve that the "normal" keyboards have and they sound thocky. I prefer clicky. I don't care for the typing angle. I always use mine without.

  • @VulcanOnWheels
    @VulcanOnWheels 2 місяці тому

    If I'm going to switch keyboards, the new keyboard has to have Super keys, because I use Linux.

  • @JohnDoe-lg2rg
    @JohnDoe-lg2rg 26 днів тому

    baru beli air75 v2

  • @pandzior2801
    @pandzior2801 6 місяців тому

    I don't like the sound on nuphy. much prefer the lofree one

  • @user-hh7cy8tr6h
    @user-hh7cy8tr6h 5 місяців тому

    ABS plastic for 130$.... so bad! But i like the whole product!

    • @treal512
      @treal512 5 місяців тому

      Which one has abs 😢

    • @user-hh7cy8tr6h
      @user-hh7cy8tr6h 5 місяців тому

      @@treal512 NuPhy has ABS bottom

  • @TeamWRCM97
    @TeamWRCM97 4 місяці тому

    didn't even mention about the sound because its all suck btw for the low profile keyboard , but the thing is how it made , the color . I dont say it bad, otherwise , it good tbh , but the sound , still suck

  • @OLIV3R_YT
    @OLIV3R_YT 2 місяці тому

    Me crying in ISO

  • @mypeeps1965
    @mypeeps1965 2 місяці тому

    Sounds like someone popping bubble wrap

  • @chriscross2627
    @chriscross2627 3 місяці тому

    Air 75 v2 = crazy bluetooth interference. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

  • @yellowmik3
    @yellowmik3 2 місяці тому

    I don’t like it when people use these noisy keyboard at shared office

  • @StevoHDA
    @StevoHDA 5 місяців тому

    Skipped to the conclusion. The Nuphy is the better keyboard especially for gamers with cowberry switches and low latency wireless (everything else is spot on as well for 75% vs the rest of the market other than no shine through PBT keycaps).. with the caveat of requiring re-lubing a thin layer under the switches due to Nuphy being unable to layer it on precise enough leading to key sticking (QC issue). If the Lofree doesn't have that issue then its potentially better out of box (unless there's other flaws not mentioned in your review), but will likely require relubing in its lifetime if it has lube under the switches as well. Well worth the potential the to re-lube the Air75 V2 especially since its cheaper.. not much a comparison here man.

  • @RadicalEdward88
    @RadicalEdward88 6 місяців тому +1

    An other god damned ANSI keyboard... 🙄🙄🙄

  • @d0nj03
    @d0nj03 19 днів тому

    All mechanical keyboards sound like ass. A keyboard shouldn't sound like anything, it should be as quiet as possible, period.

  • @Jacob_uhh
    @Jacob_uhh 7 місяців тому +5

    I got the Air75 v2 with cowberry, and it’s simply amazing to type with

    • @semiprotech
      @semiprotech  7 місяців тому +3

      I agree the cowberry switches are fantastic!