RED V-RAPTOR 8K VV | In-Depth Review & Test Footage
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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V-RAPTOR Example Footage
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Chapters:
Intro - 00:00
Context - 00:59
Sensor Performance - 02:03
Aliasing / Low Pass Filter - 02:57
Rolling Shutter - 03:56
Sensor Stitch - 04:39
New Debayer - 05:26
Latitude - 06:22
Over / Under - 07:37
Straight Out Of Camera Colour - 11:54
Matching with DSMC2 / KOMODO - 12:40
Noise / Low Light - 13:14
Cooling - 15:45
Black Shading - 17:25
How To Expose - 17:40
Creative - 19:45
Tech Specs - 24:00
High Frame Rates - 24:16
Pre Record - 25:43
Time-lapse - 26:54
Frame Limit - 27:32
R3D - 28:08
ProRes - 32:00
Workflow - 33:58
Media - 38:44
Lenses - 40:35
Autofocus - 42:19
ND Filters - 42:57
Audio - 45:41
Powering - 46:30
Why 8K - 48:00
Anamorphic - 50:54
Connectivity - 51:38
Physical Overview - 56:20
Updated OS - 59:59
DSMC3 Touch Screen - 01:03:58
Accessory Overview - 01:07:31
Reflections - 01:09:24
Outro - 01:10:29
#REDCinema #RAPTOR #CameraReview - Фільми й анімація
Dear CVP, the filmmaking community owes you a BIG debt of gratitude for your incredibly in-depth and informative content. I've just purchased a V-Raptor VV, in no small part due to all the fantastic information you've provided about both it and its competitors. You helped me make an informed decision, and the camera ticks all the boxes I expected.
However, one thing I WASN'T ready for was just how delightfully beautiful the footage is. Coming from mirrorless hybrids (previous A-cam was Canon R5C), this thing is simply in another league. Everything is smoother, more polished, less harsh. Even zooming in at 600%, not a single pixel feels out of place. I don't see "digital noise" in the same way as I do from my old camera. Perhaps one day I will save up for an Alexa and enjoy the seemingly endless highlight headroom, but for now there's almost nothing that I don't absolutely adore about the V-Raptor. THANK YOU SO MUCH for everything you do for filmmakers like me.
With best wishes from across the pond,
Nick
UPDATE - RED has released more information about the sensor split issue some V-RAPTOR users have experienced and will also be offering an optional flare guard that owners can request to be fitted. You can learn more about it here - support.red.com/hc/en-us/articles/5269881273619-V-RAPTOR-Flare-Artifact
It’s finally here! Sorry, this one took so long to get released, I cannot express to you how much work has gone into it. Fingers crossed, it was worth the wait! This is the last video of this year so have a great new year and we will see you when we are back in the office! Let us know if you have any more questions about the camera down below and thanks so much for watching, Jake
EDIT - @44:23 I say breakout instead of breakthrough.
THE BEST REVIEW GUYS REPSECT
@@CVPTV "I say breakout instead of breakthrough"
How dare you, literally unwatchable. Unsubscribing. ❤️
One thing that I missed is to see an example of zooming into the image while recording to ensure focus. That is the feature I miss the most on our Helium. Would be great to see an example of this. Great video btw!
I know I can't afford it. Still watched the entire thing. Awesome in depth review
Thanks for watching! Jake
You ll get it one day!
this will definetly be up for rent so it's not out of the question, plus now you know all about it so you won't have to spend half the time you have it trying to understand it :)
@@tiarastreetfilms7089 That is true. Some day it will be affordable but by then you won't want it lol
Oh hai max :)
Ursa 12k aint no slouch at all. A winner for the accessible price
After all the massive amount of work you guys put into this video, you still say "if you want us to do a more in depth video on 'x' us know" which would only be more work! You guys can take a break after this magnum opus that we have here!! Fantastic work, I really appreciate every hour that was spent on this video!
One of the best and most extensive reviews about a camera I've ever seen. Amazing job guys!
THANK YOU!!! No other reviewer puts this much quality works I know of
Alright, now I finished watching the whole 72 minutes and I feel like I'm even more desperate than before to get my hands on a Raptor. A really well written review, not just in-depth but insanely thorough, beautiful sample footage, what more could I want? Well, the camera itself, of course.
I'm excited to see what happens with the vertical stitching issue, and also the 3rd party accessories that are sure to come out. Thanks for including the Kippertie Strata, didn't know about that one yet.
All in all, a big thumbs up on the video is well deserved and of course I'll be here for when new ones are released. Thanks for making my evening!
Just get a helium, it’s better than the “reptar” nonsense. Softvass sensor. Helium is high res pixel pitch.
You guys are one of the best cinema equipment channels out there. Please never stop, despite the views of which you deserve much more of.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching Ivan! Jake
This video is the best Christmas present I could have asked for! Thank you guys so much for all the hard work and time you put into making this superb content! So grateful for you guys!
You guys are hitting your stride with these videos. Excellent production.
Dens and informative video. The best camera review and test that I’ve seen. Amazing! I would appreciate a longer walk through of the Red Cine X Pro. Thank you!
The big surprise for me was how good the Ursa 12K does in overexposure. For 6K$
I wish they had a prores option for the 12k. It would’ve been a no brainer. I like BRAW, but there’s still a lot of jobs requiring prores, and it just makes all the ursa 12K power useless.
Absolutely legendary drop. I'm hard pressed to find a single other video on the internet about the V-RAPTOR that is more detailed than this one.
Thanks for the kind words and for watching Kris! Jake
The best review I found on the Internet, truly in depth, full of information and great footages to go along with it. Keep it up! 🏃♂️
Thanks for watching!! Jake
Incredible review guys. Really happy that you compare with Helium and Monstro since I know those well. I did not know that pre record is now cached into memory, that is a big step forward.
Such a great in depth guide. Thanks for this!
This test is very useful compared to many other tests I see. Great work and thanks for doing this! I'm very impressed with the Raptors retention when under exposing the sensor.
Make sure to check out the full tests here! - vimeo.com/659027003/eda2e7abdb?fbclid=IwAR0x-7gyC4do8N1HPNCFWgimen8StGPtk65ILOTPdy5G6ceFHNPb7jVFVm4
Great review. It is clear loads of work went into this review and we all appreciate the effort. Thanks
That over exposure test was eye opening. Thank you.
Thank you for making this in-depth review guys! You are the best!
you guys are the best at what you're doing. crazy good content.
So much fun to watch your videos. Raising a glass in cvp’s honor tonight. Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it Martin! Thanks for watching, Jake
Thank you. I have a Sony A1 at the moment & I plan on getting a V-Raptor XL now when it comes out later this week because of this video
Thank you for your work and so detailed video !
Absolutely incredible review, y'all! You've undeniably earned this sub.
Thank you!! Jake
Ohh hell yesss! I've been waiting for this!
Hopefully it is worth the wait! Jake
@@CVPTV Ohh boy...It definitely was! Amazing job!🔥 Covered everything I could've asked for and more! Thanks!
Thank you so much for a great in-depth review!
Thanks for watching! Jake
THANK YOU for this video.
Epic review guys, seriously. Your hard work is appreciated, trust me! This is the first time I’m really thinking of getting a Red. I think this would be great for professional wildlife work, something I’d love to do.
Ahh awesome, yeah for Wildlife this camera and the XL version are going to be well used! Thanks for the kind words and for watching! Jake
I always thought Red were fantastic for wildlife. We have 2 Heliums and will probably get a Raptor in the future.
Great review !
Great video as always! Would Love a long video on the red control app
I was not expecting the Alexa Mini to be so good in overexposure wow 😱
Such incredible highlight performance with Arri.
Thank you for reviews. Red should be really appriciate your hard work. l am gonna get one by your review!
Wow! This really is a masterclass on the V-Raptor! Well done, guys!
Thanks for watching! Jake
guys do you recommended buying V-RAPTOR for shooting my TV series instead of renting Mini Alexa ? i have Arri Ziess Master Prime lenses with PL mount , and as i see shooting s35 6k mean losing some quality of the image and not getting the benefit of the 8k Quality , am i right ? and which lenses is the best for shooting TV SERIES with 8K ? advice me please , note am a Producer and Director not a Pro DOP
What I know for sure is that if you want 6k or 8k, you're definitely not getting that resolution out of an Alexa Mini
What does the DOP think?
to me raptor looks more digital than alexa. i d take the alexa if you want a more filmish look
Great video. This video came up while looking at Front Load Washing machines?! Maybe the UA-cam algorithm sees the Thumb of this video as a row of front load washers?
Fantastic review of the V-Raptor, thank you! Liked & Subscribed
Awesome, thank you! Jake
Please do the Red Cine Pro walkthroughs! I have no idea where to start or how to use it . I’m sure there are other people like me that are new to red !!
Amazing review ! This is a movie 🍿 not just a review !
I'd bet the lack of internal NDs comes down to the camera just not being tall enough to fit that mechanism into it. The C70 has an advantage in that its smaller sensor allows for smaller NDs, and that's kind of a chunky camera too.
I liked the over/under part
The arri alexa and the Ursa 12k are amazing.
I have to say, I was surprised at how good the Red Komodo Colour looked straight out of the camera ? It looked the best to me.
Fantastic job
Great video tutorial, precise and accurate. The movie science must go on and this kind of camera is the best money can buy. Lucky I don't need it for my video purpose because I'm not conditioned by Netflix's request for advanced technology. But I'm aware important movie productions want to use the best you can find on the market. good for me my customer doesn't need it so I have not to spend all this money. But thanks again for your tutorial.
Gracias por el review!, está increíble
Thank you, hope you enjoy it! Jake
Great review by the way. I've saved this video and keep coming back to it. I would like a complete breakdown of the control app if you would do a video. One of the things I can't solve is going to playback on the control app on a device and just getting back to the camera layout. Thanks
@10:55 The Alexa Mini LF overexposure is mind-blowing. Ursa 12K proves that resolution is not everything. That said you can clearly see the improvement in the Raptor Sensor over the Monstro, and I commend RED for the price drop and the change in body design. Before I would not consider the RED due to their design, but that Komodo is VERY tempting to purchase for my own use.
Bassett resolution gives very clean clear crystal image than anything else. It's maths man
I was impressed with how well the Ursa 12K, a $6K camera, held up against the rest of these.
@@BryantNaro Absolutely! The Ursa 12K and Komodo, both at just $6,000, absolutely blew me away in terms of over/underexposure tests.
As did all the cameras - but those are _wild_ for the price.
The Super 35mm Alexa's are even better than the LF (more zones on the LF though due to the better signal to noise ratio). Check out the Cined Mini LF & Classic test. I am not sure if there is any camera in this world that has higher dynamic range than the Alexa.
@@AlexLTDLX that’s yours wish having Alexa , but I’m a guy very practically man . Practical shows bmd & red shows top notch
Holy shit raptor digs hard into those shadows. New low light Queen. The mini lf wtf 5 stops over walk in the park. Ursa 12k impressive 4 stops over wow.
Thank You!
Amazing work ! Thank you so much ! Hope it's worth it !
Thanks for watching Hugo! Jake
It's crazy how hard it is to break the Alexa LF footage when over or under exposing 😍 But skintone wise when exposed correctly I actually prefer the Venice 😊 RED is cool for its size and slowmo, redraw and prize compared to Venice and Lf.
i know right? my jaw dropped when all other cameras' footage fell apart and the alexa was just there, chillin' :D
Did we see the same underexposed tests? The v raptor beat the hell out of the alexa
@@imabigsandwich1292 😂😂😂
@@elitefamilyparkour Look at the black levels and amount of noise in the underexposed test, the alexa became a washed out mess while the red stayed intact
@@imabigsandwich1292 The Raptor, which is 2 years newer, was the only camera that was able to compete and I agree even beat the Alexa at underexposed levels (which is definitely impressive due to the huge price difference). When it comes to overexposure its a whole new picture and overall I would nearly always prefer the LF which has way more real world dynamic range.
Very useful....thank you..
Excellent vid, as always. I need to borrow it for a web series one man shoot.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it! Jake
An amazing review,, well done.
Thanks for watching Paul! Jake
V-Raptor: 3 stops over + middle + 5 stops under = 9 stops
Alexa LF: 5 stops over + middle + 3 stops under = 9 stops
I would underexpose V-Raptor 2 stops to get the same DR profile as Alexa if there was clipping.
From Monstro to V-Raptor, it looks like an improvement of 1/3 stop under and 1/3 stop over.
I'm with you. The Raptor is significantly better when underexposed than the Alexa. And I'd give it a full stop in total gain over the Monstro honestly.
Please please please make a full review like this for the Komodo! There really isn't any quality full reviews out for it yet. Incredible work on this.
Thanks for the kind words Sophus! We've done a good amount of content on the KOMODO before, which you can see in this playlist! ua-cam.com/play/PLa69puhqWCfJfFe2F7ZPzimaORag4jEKL.html
Is there anything outside of these videos that you think we should cover? Thanks for watching, Jake
I love the Monstro❤❤
Thanks a lot for this amazing review. One question regarding over/under exposure: considering the V-Raptor is much better in lowlight but much worse in the highlights than the Arri Alexa Mini, shouldn't the V-Raptor be rated at a higher ISO (to shift middle gray)? How would that even out the results?
I’d love to see you guys collaborate with some colorists on UA-cam to see how this in the Komodo stack up to lower priced options from blackmagic and Sony at a picture level.
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Amazing video, thank you so much for making this thorough video. On the data sheet, would it be possible to add the ProRes data as well, for comparison between the formats like prores 4444 vs raw LT or thr new elq. Thanks!
Will Canon EF lenses cover the entire V-Raptor sensor or will there be vignetting? Same question on the KipperTie Revolva and Strata?
Eden:untamed planet shot on red v raptor!! WOW..no wonder that show is magnetic for wildlife lovers like me..
Hi,
I hope this message finds you well. I have a question regarding the RED RAPTOR camera. Is it possible to use the RED RAPTOR camera for capturing photos during a drone scanning mission?
Looking forward to your response.
Best regards,
What camera did you film this with? Seems like a cinema camera.
Where did you guys learn to grade? I’m looking for some resources that actually teach colouring properly unlike most UA-cam videos/online courses
Great test and thanks. You mentioned a separate video for the Over / Under tests for Raptor, Alexa LF, Venice, etc... Where is the link to that?
Hey Gene, Was buried in the description but here's a link here - vimeo.com/659027003/eda2e7abdb Jake
It's rather interesting how magenta the Mini LF looks, that honestly doesn't really look good in the skintone OOC comparison.
Thanks for the insightful review. Your hard work is much appreciated.
A question regarding the overexposure tests. Did you use the highlight recovery tool for the blackmagic Ursa 12K?
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can you use LPL lenses on v rator? is there a adoptor for lpl lense?
72 minutes of full pleasure
I would like to compare the 8K high frame rate of the V-Raptor against the URSA 12K.
Any news on when the review on sony venice 2 will come out?
Amazing review, guys. Loved it. Really informative. What lights do you use in studio when shooting at frame rates like 1,000? HMI? Your images are very clean. I did some tests myself at 1,000 fps and was getting pretty noticeable flicker no matter what I used.
Thanks Robert! I believe we used the 600D Pro. I would keep an eye on the Aputure 1200D as I think that will be an awesome option for HFR work soon! Jake
@@CVPTV Thanks, Jake!
Hello guys thanks for doing this and i couldnt reach the vimeo latitude text video. Could you help me with that?
V raptor DR characteristic is very similar to DGO sensor from canon. Its very clean in the shadow. Hmmmm
Gonna buy the Red V-Raptor to create UA-cam videos.
I’d love even to get a red Komodo BUT every place says out of stock… I’d love to get an R3… out of stock… these new camera videos have lost a bit of spark because the lack of availability is making me stretch my old gear out longer 😋
I like ur video bro I want second camera
Are you sure the REDs, and raptor has a base iso? I was pretty sure yne iso on red cameras was completely irrelevant
The v raptor seems to be better exposed 1 stop under than over
The Monstro colors are so much better
Well, there go my evening plans... And I'm okay with that.
Let us know what you think! Jake
Great review. Z CAM E2-F8 will still be enough for many people
How much computing power do you need for a proper Red 8K raptor workflow ? I’m making the jump from a Sony A7s so I’m curious what you recommend. Thanks again. Great video 🙏
Hey Aaron, Yeah it's going to require a little more horsepower! What OS are you planning on using? Jake
@@CVPTV thank you! Mac OS, I do sound on apple logic but do the editing on adobe premiere pro, which Mac Pro configuration do you recommend?
Honeslty, I would wait until Apple (hopefully this Spring) release iMac / Mac Pro's with their latest M1 silicon. Fully spec M1 MAX MacBook Pro's look to perform excellently, so a desktop version should be even better!! Jake
Damn the Venice straight out of camera colour looks so magical! Did not expect to like it more than the Alexa LF.
Do you guys sell LUTS? I love the coloring on your videos
Can you review Sony Venice 2 8K ?
Mavo edge next
What the Alexa LF does to the rest of these blokes is super unfair in that under and over test. Especially the over. 😂 😂 😂 😂 It's ridiculous how Arri mastered a sensor once and called it a day. (sure they make adjustments to the way it's processed but other than that. Nothing). However the Raptor seems like a great addition to the Red lineup.
Thanks again CVP for a great review.
This is true but for some reason in high end productions I love the image out of a Red LF over ARRI. Almost like the Red seems a bit sharper and looks so crisp. A lot of examples...watch Stranger Things or Squid Game shot on a Monstro at 8k.
The Alexa definitely breaks first in the under test. Which one were you watching?
@@justinmakesmovies33 apologies I meant more in the over exposure test. I should have been more specific.
am looking for LPL RF mount but dont what brand i should go for, please if you can advice ?
I would go with the Vocas one. Jake
@@CVPTV can you Please try it on your Raptor
Allthough you are salesmen and we know salesmen are not into "fights". But I would love if you would do serious dynamic range test with your cameras. Im exicited to know the V-Raptor XL price.
I’m not a salesman, I may work for a company that sells cameras but my and CVPs goal is to help our customers, as well as the thousands that don’t buy from us yet who watch the videos, to make the most educated purchases decision possible, not sell them kit they don’t need. This includes the negatives which we don’t hold back from in our content and conversations. Jake
@@CVPTV Ok so please do objective DR tests. Only CineD and Gerald Undone are doing it. But they do it just frquently or they are not receiving all of the cameras.
In my opinion it would put your reviews on another level :)
@@GreatCassian How is it not a subjective DR test? Are we watching the same video lol ?
@@DJBFilmz DR test with Imatest is not subjective.Hard facts. But it is expansive.
We did include a DR reading at 02:39 , just not using imatest but this chart (www.image-engineering.de/products/charts/all/406-te269) with our LE7 system. Jake
23:40 so you monitor at a lower iso than 800, so 640 for instance and then bring it down even further in post to like 400? This doesn't sound right to me lol
I think what they are saying is that because ISO is just metadata with RED RAW they just expose as bright as they can - up to a point where no highlights are clipping (using the stoplights) but monitor at a lower ISO and then in post / edit set the ISO as desired. The key being to not clip any highlights.
Again I’m assuming but the logic for monitoring at a lower ISO using this technique would be so the image they are viewing does not look too bright / overexposed. It’s kind of like ETTR but in this case you can set your ISO to a level that appears to be “correct” on the monitor but you’re still pushing more light to the sensor. They never stated what the specific “lower ISO” was and that would be because it varies depending on how bright the scene is.
@@jeremeyshelton yeah I understand that may be easier - but the more highlights you have in your frame, the higher your iso should be to retain highlight information, so shouldn't monitoring iso depend on the image, and wheather highlight retention is needed (preferably a higher iso), or shadow retention (preferably a lower iso)
So for instance, if I'm doing a night scene I will make my iso lower in monitoring (400 for instance) so that I can see how the shadows look and so that I retain detail in them, and then light the scene accordingly
And when I'm shooting an exterior of the sun for instance, I put my in camera iso to 1250 let's say, so that highlight retention is better.
That's why this doesn't make sense to me
Here because Zack Snyder is using it for Rebel Moon
21:57 🤗
Wow incredible how mini LF holds on to the colors even at 6 stops+/- Other cameras are not even close
That’s the DR King
@@kemalettinsrt he’s saying the mini LF
This 8K sensor is starting to run up against the limitations of our lenses. Artifacts you might never notice on an S35 or lower-res sensor are really starting to poke through! (CA, fringing, ghosting, softness) It's looking like data rates and resolution are no longer the bottlenecks to image quality these days, and you'll need some serious glass to really let the qualities of this camera shine through. Of course vintage/characterful lenses will always have their place, but a lot of their flaws got buried by SD/HD delivery formats. They're a little less charming when viewed in such stunning detail!
They need to test out the Arri Signature Primes ;)
What about raptor weight? And which gimbal?
Body only is 4.03lbs or 1800 grams ish. I’ve seen people use it on RS2 but wouldn’t recommend it. Most will use with MoVI Pro and Ronin 2! Jake
You no one compareing with canon C 500ll camera
Anyone else noticed that the Raptor seem to have quite a weird artificial rendering to faces? Not as bad as I've seen in other videos but it's there in this video too?
Can't imagine how long this video took to make. Good job 👌👍
It took, many many hours. Thanks for watching! Jake
Nope, haven't noticed anything weird or artificial.