Incompetent reader, Competent scribe | Mansur reacts to Dan Brubaker | Speakers Corner | DawahWise
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Mansur reacts to the incompetent reading of a British Library Quranic manuscript page by Dr Brubaker in his latest video.
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Excellent as always! mashallah
Subboor 🌷 love you in Allah brother 🧡
Kindly tell Mansur,Ijaz,Farid,etc to Contact Dr Dan and Talk/debate with him in Scdawah,Efdawah,this channel About this Topic
It will help both sides
@@Hello-vz1md to be honest I would like to see that as well but it would be humiliating for “Dr” Dan Brubaker who calls himself a scholar of Quranic manuscripts or whatever but literally doesn’t understand basic Arabic let alone Classical Arabic and it’s morphology 😂. If I was debating “Dr” Dan I would tell him to get a Arabic mushaf of the Quran and start reading Surah Al Fatiha, I promise he probably won’t be even able to do it 🤷🏾♂️
@@Kamal_AL-Hinai q11
@@R2026I what?
I corrected him on that mistake the same hour he uploaded the video! Yesterday, You can find his response to me on that video in the comments he admitted that he made mistakes and thanked me for correcting him twice in the comments, he is far from being a scholar of the manuscripts! Especially if he makes such mistakes in basic Arabic!
Do you think that makes him sincere for admitting his mistake(s)?
@@Kamal_AL-Hinai not sincere if he doesn't take down the video but at least he was open for justified corrections, if someone admits for making mistakes and apologizes for that then he is way better then those who do not concede to the possibility of being wrong.. I also asked him to clarify on his next video which led him to comment and said that he wasn't clear in that video..
@Sami Ahmed Yes I don't think he is that sincere if he doesn't remove the videos where he acknowledges that he made mistakes.. because it's misleading, but I think God is exposing him so his patreons won't take him that serious anymore. But some of them know and they just like to support his deception to mislead people!
Thank you for your insight brother. Very appreciated
@@israfilangel8062 barakALLAHU fik for correcting that amateur but please change your youtube surname its not approprite
I watched his channel many times, but I was surprised to find him very weak in the Arabic language and he does not know basic knowledge about the history of the Qur’an, but he is only deceiving Christians to sell his weak books
@Michael Cameron Quran is really preserved letter by letter, no one can change or update any word in Qur'an.
@Michael Cameron You're the brainwashed by your scholars so wake up 23,32.....Qur'ans alleged by losers called Christians everyday. The Qur'an itself said it was revealed in seven dialects and each of those dialect has synonyms Christians just search those words and make their own Quran and not shameful about their ignorance
There are the different Qiraat for the Qur’an, all of them are authenticated by chains of reliable narrators, going back to The prophet Muhammad. The differences between these Qiraat are so subtle and enrich the meaning. You can see these small videos
: ua-cam.com/video/CAkQrY4QT94/v-deo.html
There's easy profits in the field of deception.
@Kenneth George "the high priests and all Israelites were bowing to an ark, which had sacred images engraved on it and contained the stone tablets in it. " CAN YOU PROVIDE CHAPTER AND VERSE FOR THIS THAT YOU CLAIM?
"We, Muslim’s do not pray to the Ka’aba, instead we pray towards it"
Hadith No: 653
Narrated/Authority of Aisha
Listed in: Pilgrimage (Hajj)
(the wife of the Prophet) that Allah's Apostle said to her, "Do you know that when your people (Quraish) rebuilt the Ka'ba, they decreased it from its original foundation laid by Abraham?" I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why don't you rebuild it on its original foundation laid by Abraham?" He replied, "Were it not for the fact that your people are close to the pre-lslamic Period of ignorance (i.e. they have recently become Muslims) I would have done so." The sub-narrator, 'Abdullah (bin 'Umar ) stated: 'Aisha 'must have heard this from Allah's Apostle for in my opinion Allah's Apostle had not placed his hand over the two corners of the Ka'ba opposite Al-Hijr only because the Ka'ba was not rebuilt on its original foundations laid by Abraham.
WHY DOES THE PROPHET PLACE HIS HANDS ON THE TWO CORNERS? LIAR!
For any Arabic Native speaker this won’t take 2 seconds to realize it can’t be with “Alef” ,because if you read it with “Alef” it won’t be correct ,” etha Aqra’a “ has no meaning and a kid who studied Arabic will highlight this .
And if I want to say “ I recite” i will say “etha Qra’ato” no “ Alef” will be included .
Brother Mansour studied Arabic because it makes sense if you wanna study Quran script you need to know Arabic unlike that guy who has no clue what he is talking about .
If he read it like this “etha aqra’a” in front of an elementary Arabic teacher, he would get whooped for making Lahn in his reading 😂
ua-cam.com/video/8hj7u0F3yEg/v-deo.html
But isn't arabic grammer mainly constructed using the quran ?
So if the variation that dan brubaker pointed out was found in the quran today, the Grammer would be totally different.
@@baleriontheblackdread4491
That’s correct most of grammar is from Quran. As it’s the first Arabic book found.
But the variation bubaker pointed out is a scribe error ,but how can we know it’s an error ?
Because this error not found in other manuscripts and more importantly Quran is transmitted through generations verbally.
even if we don’t have any manuscripts from 1st century that would not be a problem because of the tradition of verbal transmission.
@@tamimi8085 but wouldn't that make most of the critique that mansur made to be wrong?
The first error is like child's play, everyone who is roughly a student in arabic would have known that, either way good video brother mansour.
Yes, I was laughing at how Dr. Dan speaking like he knows everything about Arabic language.. Poor man.
@@jobless6854 i think i talked to her once, not a respectful woman, that was a good reason for me to stop addressing her.
But thank you for your kind words.
@Mo of petra Jordan why are you popping up every where you spiteful ignorant bigot why don’t you get a life you psycho. FYI Ahmed Deedat was a lion who roared with nothing but the truths and your lying representatives couldn’t even utter a word in his presence!
@Mo of petra Jordan and u will be more surprised when you find that there's more women then men in heaven also
@@marwanemad7387 please delete your comment, just don't try arguing with these trolls, they're not here to learn or even have discussions, i dealt with countless of them they all end up cursing and not admitting being wrong.
Long story short: just don't try, i can already see how your talk with him is gonna end judging how his comments are posted.
They failed attacking Islam in many ways, and they struggle, but they only made a fool of themselves.
@mrs. Greta Carbone its 2021, stop believing that God died on a cross
@mrs. Greta Carbone 😂😂😂 Allah saved ISA.
But wait a minute Jesus god couldn't save himself 😂😂
@mrs. Greta Carbone
Islam is fastest growing religion..
How on earth can you say that Islam is dying?!
@mrs. Greta Carbone you don't know the meaning of Abdullah !! How you argue that jesus wasn't Abdullah ? Are you christian princess fan ? He was a prophet according to youre fake ,currpted bible ! Prophet is a Abdullah, servant of Allah. So take a chill pill, or have the wholespirit.
@mrs. Greta Carbone "let innocent man die on the cross"
But don't you believe Jesus was innocent and the father let him die on the cross even though jesus prayed for it not to happen? Lol guess its time you left Christianity if thats how you feel about it
Some misguided people try to find a spelling mistake in the Qur'an.
While many wise people converted to Islam by understanding the message and meaning of the Qur'an.
Yes yes abdula many Muslims accepting the Lord 🙏 Jesus but are scared to come out .. because of a certain cult
@@ronhabster8778 come on! It's 2021 and it's very embarrassing that your guys still believe God ate,drunk, went to toilet,cried and died in the hands of his creations i.e death and jews
@@ronhabster8778 what if jesus is Mexican? What you guys gonna called him? Hesus?
@@inongbalee3092 yep Spanish speaking people call him Hesus as the J is pronounced as a harsh H.
@Mo of petra JordanYour comment is very embarrassing Muhammad is not our God,he's a prophet and a servant of our God.Our God is unique and unlike anything you can imagine.Muhammad (SAW) was allowed to marry his son in law divorced wife as an extension of people u can marry by God not his daughter in law and the age of his wife,Aisha, varies according to shias she was 18,19 and to the Sunnis 6,9.And given six and nine years old girl in marriage was legal and practiced in 18 century Europe but u don't know your history so u harassed people about the same thing that happened 14 century Arabia.And your God's people, Jews,in their Talmud girls can be married at the age of three and if u examine the age of Rebecca when she married to Issac she was three. So get some knowledge on when even your God's people and prophet Issac got married before you come tell what Muhammad had done
Highly technical and very thoughtfully presented for myself and that “scholar” to begin to understand...thank you
Mashallah brother, Allah has given you so much knowledge, let's all say Almamdulliah (Praise be to God)
You are doing a great work Mansur brother
Great explanation brother mansur.
Just to add something, the verb أَقْرَأ can't come after the word إذا، and this is another reason why his argument is not valid.
Exactly
Good point
I wanted him to mention it too
Mashallah well explained may Allah bless you sheikh mansur
Can you do more videos like these, debunkng all their points they bring about islam . BarakaAllahu Feek.
This is a new channel.
Yes I'd like to see more of quality content without shouting hecklers .
Sometimes islamophobe claim about Islam can be solved through any researching less than a day or even an hour, but they don't want to search the truth they just want to hate. That's the problem. That's why they attack Islam just because they heard it from someone not cross-checking it first
Bruh this guy is literally a joke .
Go checkout his parody account on Twitter , you'll laugh .
what is it
Give us the link
Is that your best argument? "You would laugh". Laugh at what exactly?
@Gwwc’mp Éfghœ most of the reviewers are barking up the wrong tree in their comments. It is not so much on whether you understand Arabic, or not the expertist in that field, but rather to prove that there were corrections and changed of words in the ealier "manuscript". This by itself had debunked their myths about the " well preserved" and perfect book, no word ever changed! When this pillar had been demolished, many other claims about their book is being burried by itself. No point to argue so much, cos they just want to deviate and derail from the real issue.
@Gwwc’mp Éfghœ you are echoing differently from so many claims out there. We cant even remember what our teachers taught or said 5 years ago, let a alone 100th of yrs. Well that is what you ppl hv been claiming. There so many muslim can event read Arabic, some can read and do not understand. Ppl can byheart but don undetstand the meaning. I have also listen alot to CP and many others on the similar issue about Quran. With the advent of technology, there are so many videos, studies, findings, information etc. For myself, I am not good in arguing and also not fond to write lengthy arguement. I just like to listen, watch, and analyzed what ppl put up in the youtube, internet etc. There many calibre and logic thinking out there. We may not need to believe or digest all but surely they improve and influence our thinking.
You never stop surprising me, Mansur 🌷
"Experts" ...
Amateurs.
@mrs. Greta Carbone
Be honest here, Do you think that having a degree is enough to justify dumb arguments or dishonesty?
Brubaker made terrible mistakes in basic elementary school stuff, he murdered the Arabic language.....
Why don't you respond to Mansur's arguments?
@mrs. Greta Carbone He must have got his PHD from the back of a Kellogg's cornflakes box!
@mrs. Greta Carbone Christian Princess sheep, hhhh you got busted in every comments.
@mrs. Greta Carbone there you go, didn't you see my comment?
I asked you to respond to Mansur's arguments, what's the problem?
Are you admitting that Brubaker made terrible mistakes?
DB got his PhD from some next university that doesn't have proper Islamic courses
From Rice University you dumb clown.
Which university
@@deathnote4171 🤣
These mistakes shouldn't be there on first place let alone in his book while holding 'PHD' on it. Shame
"Hamza's critical analysis of character of Prophet Mohammad" argument:
1. Was prophet Mohammad a liar?
=) Human beings lie due to their motives. If there is no motive why should a person lie. He was known as truthful and trustworthy before claiming prophethood. People used to keep their bailment with prophet Muhammad pbuh. Because they knew that this person will never cheat. When two tribes went in conflict, they used to call prophet for making a decision. What was the emergency to lie after spending 40 years of his life. Let us analyse all the possible motives.
Money: We know that prophet Mohammad pbuh was married to richest women in Mecca. After claiming prophethood, he became the poorest in the city. His wife Aisha RA narrates that for 40 days there would be no food to eat except dates.He was offered too much money and status by the pagans to stop preaching the message but he denied it by saying "Even if u keep sun in my one hand and the moon on the other, even then I won't stop preaching this message of truth" . And by the way inventing a religion is the last thing that a person will think to earn money🤑😂
Fame : fame without money and luxury is useless. After claiming to be a prophet, he and his companions had to face oppression and severe torture in Mecca. Due to which they had to migrate to Madinah. Even there they were attacked by the mushriks of Mecca several times. What kind of motive is that and why would a person spend his whole life to gain such a fame? 🙄
Women : Prophet got married first at the age of 25 with a widdow who was 15 years elder to him. All the marriages that he did were non virgins except one. He also commanded women to cover their body after maturity. Will a man with lust do that? Also he prohibited illegal sex. People believed he was a prophet and he could have easily allowed that. Creating a new religion for women is the last thing a person can do🤣
Here we exhaust all the major motives of Prophet being a liar.
2.Was prophet Muhammad crazy?
=) For a non Muslim's perspective this claim may have a stand. But being a Muslim I can only laugh at such a claim.
If this claim is true that means 120k companions was following a crazy man.
If this is true then 2 billion people on the earth are supporting a crazy man's theology. Can a crazy, illiterate man create a book which has no contradiction and errors in it, has grammatical miracles,has true prophesies, has guidence in every aspect of life such as family, governance,marriage, divorce,defence, morals and all the social issues u can think of . Answer is Nooooooo.....
3.Was prophet Muhammad deceived and misguided by Satan?
=) The only people who make this claim r the Christians. The first question you should ask to yourself is what is the need for Satan to kam and miss guide people who were pagans and worshipping 360 idols? What need does the Satan faced to bring them to worship one true God?
The Christians at this moment claim that
satan wanted you not to believe in Jesus's divinity and sacrifice. But wait a moment, those pagan arabs did not believe in Jesus's divinity and sacrifice even before. And according to Jesus, Satan can't curse himself or can't destroy his kingdom. Every tym Muslims start to read the quran or starts a good action, it is recommended that he should take refuge from the acursed Satan.
I think Satan want u to curse jesus and Paul does that😇
4. After exhausting all the possibilities, we r left with him pbuh being truthful.🤫
👍
@mrs. Greta Carbone different words used in the Qur'an and hadits for the word which apparently translated into "artery". It's a common figure of speech used in the hadith to describe pain, doesn't literally mean what it says. Examples in English, "I'm sick of david wood's idiocy" doesn't mean I'm physically literally sick. Let's use our brains!
1+1+1=1😆😆😆😆
@mrs. Greta Carbone stop making fun of yourself. Before you talk about math equations, please learn to know numbers. Before you talk Qur'an which is in it's original Arabic language, please learn the language.
@mrs. Greta Carbone 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x=1 too. Why stop at trinity?
He's better off being a Baker. Leave this field to the experts and go make 3 in 1 fries
Alhamdulillah Allah promised in The Holy Quran to protect and preserve his words
Afin a bno tachfin😂
yes so far he has protected in 37 different variations
That's what I think your Allah is fake
PROVE. TO WORLD. YOU. ARE. NOT. AN. IDIOT. (CHRISTIAN. PRINCE)FIRST. YOU. MUST. STOP. LYING 😹😹👍
The Amateur Brubaker failed once again.
@@jobless6854 what do you mean by bullying? 😂
That guy is a just a little troll.
@@abhmd4481 Christians have no proof
@@adnanalrakib8555 ikr
@@feduntu
Talking about cousin marriages isn't going to change the fact that Brubaker has a poor level of knowledge on the arabic language, he can't even read properly and the mistakes he made are inexcusable for a 10 year old arab student let alone for someone who claims to have a PhD.
What informations? 😂
You mean dumb mistakes and incompetence right? We can't process childish mistakes because that's your thing not ours......
And btw cousin marriages is a cultural thing, it has nothing to do with faith, there is no such thing in the Islamic fikh فقه.
You're so desperate.
@@feduntu
Bringing up cousin marriages demonstrated how desperate you are, even if your claim was true it's irrelevant to the subject, in fact it's irrelevant to the field of comparative religions, we're talking about scriptures, you're just trying to score cheap points lol.
You should educate yourself so you can make some real arguments, we don't even care about manuscripts, the Quran isn't a written anonymous scripture found in random places like the Bible, if a manuscript contains mistakes we eliminate that mistake because we have the Isnaad, we don't make those mistakes a word of god.
We can burn every single Mushaf in the world, then bring some 8cyear old children to rewrite it, this isn't your anonymous books my friend.
Until now you didn't respond to Mansur's arguments, how do you justify the terrible mistakes Brubaker made? Can you justify the incompetence of Dan? Or maybe correct us if you can read Arabic?
No, all you can do if waffling.....
You are useless tbh, this is my last response.
Wait... Mansur has his own channel now?... Subscribed!
Thank you for presenting this bro Mansur. People like us(me) definitely benefit from your knowledge. May Allah SWT increase you in knowledge. ameen.
From 20:36 - 20:44
That's very true. Even apus kept talking about Ex muslims using the victim card for funds etc. Yet he (Apus) changed his patron goal from 10k to 20k. Yet these gullible people don't see how he's using them for money.
@@jxcess3891
Lollll the little pajeet is back
@@jxcess3891
Yea I'm back.
@@jxcess3891
You see my account is new. Why? Coz Christians couldn't handle it and they kept reporting me 😂😂😂 emotional belief
@@jxcess3891
Mee????
@@jxcess3891
Pajeet you're the one here.
MasaAllah brother Monsur. nice job.
Baaraka Allahu feek brother Mansoor this is brother Neil even I understand the differences between the three words
love the explanation.. may Allah increase ur knowledge brother Mansur.. 😊😊
Masha Allah. I pray Allah SWT to rewards you abundantly and increase you in knowledge
Masha brother very good I am impressed by your videos expose these ignorants. And offer them to learn at you for free give them free training teach them how to learn manuscripts and Arabic....
Good video Mansur, keep up the good work.
جزاك الله خيرا
السلام عليكم منصور . بارك الله فيك وجزاك كل خير عما تقوم به لخير الاسلام و المسلمين. تحية عطرة من متابع لك من الجزائر.
ارجو ان تكثر من مثل هاته المداخلات ذات النوعية الجيدة و التي تقدم مادة مهمة و مرتبة تخلو من التشويش و الفوضى التى يسببها بعض الملاحدة و المنصرين في الحديقة العامة.
Perfect job Brother Mansor. I would like you to go through all his exemples and debunk them. One of my christian friends talk to me about this incompetent reader as if he is coming up with smthing new ! Barakalaho fik ! Much love from Morocco.
I am so happy to see our scholar lecturing that incompetent scholar 😂…
Alhamdullillah
Let’s keep teaching them
I recommend to him to go and ask a 6th grader student and ask him how the word is written and if it's right or someone deleted a letter, rather than taking brother mansur's time.
Brother mansur is simply just brilliant! subhanallah may Allah SWT grant brother mansur jannah and abundance rizq for more articles like this
Big props to whomever did subtitles on this.
Much respect to brother Mansoor for his great works. May Allah grant you long life and peace in this life and grant you paradise in the hereafter.
may Allah reward you brother Mansur. thank you for the explanation.
Wooow!! I know this won't be appreciated if you don't understand the Arabic language but I cannot stress enough just how ridiculously childish and unacademic him pointing those so called errors is. In what world is this Brubaker guy considered a scholar of any regard? He's a mediocre student at best.
your Arabic is so good man i didn't even know :D i been watching to much speakers Conner english debates
why do non muslims (most often haters/racist) claim to be experts in the islamic religious? Marsha Allah to these brothers who are allways refuting these types of people
mashaallah brother mansour you are good example of how to learn anything , you spoke it as you were born with it mashaallah , asking allah for you to have more Knowlage
Brubaker can’t even read properly how the hell is he translating? 😂
Sheikh Google to the rescue featuring David Wood
You got a ph.d. from a top university? Oh wait, he does and you probably don't have a degree at all.
@@SurpriseMeJT oh wait, do u have phd fm top univ? Oh don wait, u don hv it too...😍😍😍
@@LUCASSENSELESS No, but I live in the same city where he went to school and it's a very expensive and top ranked school. I'm siding with the expert and not the expert extremist that you seem to be.
DB should ask his uni for a refund as he failed miserably to understand basic Arabic. You don't need a PhD to expose his mistakes in the video as any primary student from an Arabic school will understand.
I thank Allah(swt) most of us did not have that guy as our Arabic teacher.
The Arabic language is so rich as you see one letter have many rules"القاعدة". Even the Arab children know the differences, so for the scholars out there! learn the Arabic language then criticize.
Try inviting him on a live debate. Expose him.
@mrs. Greta Carbone
He has a PhD but he makes mistakes of a 6 year old arab student, if you speak Arabic you should cringe while watching this refutation because Brubaker destroyed his reputation here.
Great........
Why don't you respond to Mansur's arguments?
How would you justify the terrible mistakes Brubaker made?
@mrs. Greta Carbone a PHD that made a HUGE mistake.
tsk tsk.
Brubaker, we know this is you lmao
@mrs. Greta Carbone
Greatest minds? Brubaker isn't a great mind, and the speakers corner isn't the only place in planet earth to debate in.
okay that doesn't matter anyway, where are your arguments?
Respond to what Mansur said in this video.
@mrs. Greta Carbone if a PHD in Arabic make basic mistakes then it's poor
And people can Have PHD but lie or make big mistakes
Anyway
Kindly tell Mansur,Ijaz,Farid,etc to Contact Dr Dan and Talk/debate with him in Scdawah,Efdawah,this channel About this Topic
It will help both sides
He will most likely decline
Wow br.mansur go deep down and he solve the issue from the root ,well done mansur great job
Amazing video Mansur! Very well explained :) may Allah S.W.T increase you in knowledge🙏
Mashaallah... This is amazing. May Allah rewards you jannah..
May Allah preserve you akhi Mansour and keep us on the right path!
Excellent Arabic you have brother Mansur 💪💪.
Greetings from Libya Land of quran
Do you know Zain Khairallah?
@@abhmd4481 no
The so called scholar needs a crash course on Arabic regular and irregular verbs, and also on the rules of hamza.
He also needs to learn the basic rules of Sarf, Nahw and balagha.
In fact he needs to preoccupy himself with something else, like jigsaw puzzles. It is very embarrassing.
Some "expert" he is. It's like a weeb trying to teach a Japanese the "correct" Japanese language.
🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
did @mrs. Greta Carbone here?
I guess that makes him a Islamaphobaboo
The only analogies I can understand... lol
Everybody, share this video so much it slaps its way to Dan Bubakar's face.
Allah said that He will protect Al Quran!! That is true!
Salam akhi, have to read ijaz's last tweet 😂
Notice in the comments how Christians and atheists are failing to defend the incompetence of Dan lol
People choose to be delusional.
This is one of the wisdoms in the final message being revealed in Arabic, a semitic language. Words tie into each other in many many ways. It's so hard to change even the pronunciation, never mind a letter or word, without it being spotted pretty easily.
Then why your fake scholars use Persian to translate the Quran you ignorant
"ذالك الكتاب لا ريب فيه" كما قال سبحانه. إضافة أن كلام الله في الصدور قبل السطور.
One of the most important research in the western academic scholarship about the quran in modern times is done by Dr Marijn Van Putten proving that the othmanic mushaf existed and is preserved.
Dr Marijn Conclusions:
This paper has shown that idiosyncratic spellings of certain words are not due to the whims of the scribe, but are reproduced with the same spelling in all early Quranic manuscripts. The only way that such a consistent reproduction can be explained is by assuming that all the documents that belong to the Uthmanic text type go back to a single written archetype whose spelling was strictly copied from one copy to the next, showing that these copies were based on a written exemplar.
The manuscripts examined in this study are sufficiently early that a codification of the Uthmanic text type is perfectly consistent with an attribution to its traditional source: ʿUthmān b. ʿAffān.
The whole research:
www.cambridge.org/core/journals/bulletin-of-the-school-of-oriental-and-african-studies/article/grace-of-god-as-evidence-for-a-written-uthmanic-archetype-the-importance-of-shared-orthographic-idiosyncrasies/23C45AC7BC649A5228E0DA6F6BA15C06
im happy the dawah warriors are tackling the internet
جزاك الله خير
Thanks brother how someone trying to speak our Dinn for us not speaking Arabic .becouse he has. Pagd that's bulshiit
Mashaa ALLAH! Very informative video, may ALLAH reward for exposing this liar!
These videos are much better than the Speakers Corner videos. May Allah bless you, Br. Mansur.
Wonderful response from you brother.... May Allah reward you jannah and increase your health and knowledge more
It's elongated alif from the last letter or harf of the word هذا before بصائر2:40 That is not even alif omitted.
Its a caligraphic style of this handwriting with emblishments and Dan Brubaker has no idea.
As if the Quran is a book that relied on written words for its transmission. As if the Quran is not a memorizable book from cover to cover, down to the letter and vowels, by millions at any one time, including children, who all learn them from the hearts of other trusted hearts, forming a living chain of transmission across the ages, a feat only the Quran can boast of..
I noticed that immediately after watching his video. The most likely explanation is that the last ا of اذا. was duplicated by mistake.
I have just yesterday come across that man who did the research and am trying to investigate the topic within the means of my understanding. I also see that he doesn't seem to be disrespectful or hostile or even degrading to muslims or islam, and even disrupts his videos with saying "overall the scriptures are impressively homogenous". Yet, the people in the comments from both sides on all videos about the topic are very hostile and rude. This is quite upsetting to see.
Watching you calmly and thouroughly explain his mistake in the one example you picked out is quite pleasant to see, and i would've loved to see more of it
ماشاء الله. شكرا يا شيخ. انا ولدت في دولة عربية مع ان اللغة العربية هي لغتي الام لكني وربما كثير من معارفي ضعاف جدا في الإملاء و القواعد . حتى بعض أصحاب اللغة كلغة ام يحتاجون لدراسة النحو و القواعد حتى يعطوا رأي في هكذا موضوع فكيف بشخص حتى أصول اللغة العادية ليست لديه يتكلم ليس في جملة عادية لكن في القرآن الكريم. عجيب كمية الكبر .
Thank you I needed this
Excellent mashaallah tabarakAllah 👍
thank you brother.May Allah protect you.
“Quick video response” ends up being over 20 minutes 🤣
Maybe for you, but for the rest it was of utmost importance. You would have appreciate it only if you wanna learn❗❗ and not otherwise
Yesterday's video was 3 hours... So yeah, shortness is relative i guess 😁
Salam
I'm new to Islam, well relatively so. But I'm an historian and it's obvious that Brubaker is making it up as he goes along....Brubaker is playing to a Christian evangelist, possibly neo Zionist, audience. Thanks, Mansur, for another fantastic video....Alhamdilullah...
أبدعت أخي منصور
جزاك الله خيرا
“From Between the Backbone and the Ribs”
Surah at-Tariq - roughly translated as ‘The Chapter of the Piercing Star’ or ‘Night Comer’ (lit. ‘Knocker’) - is the 86th chapter of the Qur’an revealed during the first half of the start of the Islamic movement. The chapter is quite short, only consisting of 17 short verses. However, this chapter has become an exegetical battle ground in the 21st century between Muslims seeking to validate the divine nature of the Qur’an and those who wish to invalidate it. The focal point of this conflict can be found in verses 5-7:
Let man see what he was created from. He was created from gushing liquid issuing from between the backbone and the ribs. (Q. 86:5-7)
These passages request man to observe [فَلْيَنْظُرِ] how he was created- to see that he was created from an ejected liquid [مَاءٍ دَافِقٍ] coming from between [يَخْرُجُ مِنْ بَيْنِ] the backbone and the ribs [الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَائِبِ]. Contemporary Muslim interpretations are generally unanimous that these verses be taken literally as an anatomical description of the region(s) where reproductive fluids are produced and emitted. For example, conservative scholars like salafi shaykh Muhammad al-Munajid, who runs the website Islam Q&A, adopts the following view:
So how come the Qur’an describes the emission of gushing water as coming from between the back and the ribs? The answer is that this is one of the scientific miracles of this great Book. Modern medicine has discovered that this place - between the backbone and the ribs - is the place where the cells that will form the testes first grow, and at a later stage of embryonic development they descend to the scrotum below the abdomen.[2]
This view seems to be derived from Dr. Zakir Naik, perhaps the most famous Islamic proselytizer of the 21st century. Over the course of his ministry Dr. Naik has expressed the exact same view in several of his lectures and published works.[3] Even more liberal-minded scholars seem to have adopted his perspective (albeit with minor variances). For example, shaykh Muhammad Tahir ul-Qadri, founder of Minhaj ul-Qur’an International. In his Creation of Man: A Review of the Qur’an and Modern Embryology, ul-Qadri writes:
Anatomical and physiological studies reveal to us that semen is a prerequisite for conception. A male gamete or sperm (spermatozoon) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. Moreover, the seminal passages do indeed lie between the sacrum referred to as sulb in the Qurā’nic verse and the symphysis pubis referred to as tarā’ib.[4]
Even modern translators and exegetes of the Qur’an have taken this approach. For example, the British born Abdullah Yusuf Ali (d. 1953), who fashioned the most popular English translation in the 20th century, stated the following in his footnotes on these verses:
A man’s seed is the quintessence of his body. It proceeds from his loins, i.e., from his back between the hip-bones and his ribs. His back-bone is the source and symbol of his strength and personality. In the spinal cord and in the brain is the directive energy of the central nervous system, and this directs all action, organic and psychic. The spinal cord is continuous with the Medulla Oblongata in the brain.[5]
Muhammad Asad, an Austro-Hungarian convert to Islam who developed a more contemporary English translation of the Qur’an, likewise interpreted 86:5-7 in an anatomical fashion, although he renders the phrase “between the backbone and the ribs” [الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَائِبِ] contrary to the majority of his peers. His translation - “between the loins [of the man] and the pelvic arc [of the woman]” - is largely an invention of his own preferences. In his footnotes he openly admits that his translation of التَّرَائِبِ is anomalous in Quranic lexicography:
The plural noun tara’ib, rendered by me as “pelvic arch”, has also the meaning of “ribs” or “arch of bones”; according to most of the authorities who have specialized in the etymology of rare Quranic expressions this term relates specifically to female anatomy (Taj al-‘Arus).[6]
But these anatomical interpretations aren’t solely held by those who believe in Islam, but also by those who oppose the religion. The disagreement is found in the scientific accuracy of these passages. Contrary to the aforementioned scholars and translators, anti-Islam polemicists believe these verses were contrived by someone still under the influence of antiquated Greek medicine. Sam Shamoun, a dedicated anti-Islam blogger, is one of the most prolific in spreading this opposing view to the masses. His article “The Qur’an on Semen Production” appears to be one of the main source texts for many anti-Islam polemicists on the Internet. Therein he states the following:
In light of the preceding considerations, we find that the interpretation of S. 86:5-7 proposed by [Muslim apologists] is more of a private interpretation that seeks to make science the standard by which the Quran is understood and judged. In so doing, these individuals must ignore the authentic interpretation of their Prophet and his companions in order to avoid the gross scientific errors contained within both the Quran and Hadith.[7]
The anti-Islam blog WikiIslam, owned by the organization Ex-Muslims of North America, utilizes many of Shamoun’s arguments, but adds that the Qur’an’s error rests in borrowing from the views of the ancient Greek philosopher, Hippocrates (d. 375 BCE):
Qur’an 86:7 says that sperm originates from the backbones and the ribs, a theory similar to another erroneous theory proposed by Hippocrates in 5th century BC (1000 years before Islam). Hippocrates taught that semen comes from all the fluid in the body, diffusing from the brain into the spinal marrow, before passing through the kidneys and via the testicles into the penis.[8]
The above examples represent the mainstream opinions shared between popular Islam apologists and anti-Islam polemics in the 21st century. In summary, an anatomical interpretation is widely considered an authentic interpretation of Q. 86:5-7. But is this exegesis a valid one? Do these modern interpretations align with the classical readings of the text and the “Quranic tone” of communication, or are they based purely on speculation? To answer these questions, let us begin with the extratextual evidence at hand: the opinions by classical scholars of Quranic exegesis
Bro, no offense but when you copy and paste someone else's work, give credit to them or kindly refer them to the actual source. asadullahali.com/2020/01/23/backbone-ribs/
Happy to see you brother
@mrs. Greta Carbone
And I'm sure that you know all about them, doc
@mrs. Greta Carbone have some education
Did @mrs. Greta Carbone here?
Here you are
may ALLAH be blesse you dear brother
You should make more of these types of videos mansur!!
Well presented
The paper was precious & expensive it was used and reused for multiple occasions ...Something Dr.Sherlock Dan Brubaker neglected to include in his biased research.
Many more videos from this person (I don't know his name) channel need to be addressed Insha'Allah please brother
Jazak Allah khairun
One more thing the sentence can not be read correctly if you added that Alef which would be like this (وإذا أقرأ القرآن) and the correct thing to say is ( وإذا قرأت القرآن )
Brilliant work brother Mansur.
That was a well based academic course for those little ignorant; who want to challenge Quran with nonsense. JazakaAllahuKhairan
Thank God that you took the challenge to respond. This is what we look for. We hope he responds. How I wish we are able to read comments about your video. In my understanding, you didn't refute him. His point is that there is a correction and with that you agree. He doesn't claim that the scribe was incompetent. Note that you made general statements about him using just one instance. Thank you
Thanks you brother Mansour, this guy is having a lot of fun right now with the like of Jay Smith under the assumption that he knows Arabic language therefore he can proves the holy Quran mistakes....!!!
Appreciate people like you who stand up to his ignorance
جزاكم الله خيرا
Dr. Shabir Ally also criticized the incompetence of Dan Brubaker
Dr Ally also admitted there are different Quran recited in different parts of the world.
Nice job and the way reading old text, I got a bit knowledge on Qo i da or i just forget for a while.
Jazakallah khairan brother mansur
If he had any sincerity he would issue an apology for the poor 'scholarship' and retract his video. Hmmmmm let's see
I am amazed by these christians, they took a magnifying glass and scrutinized every pages looking for the slightest mistakes (which of course did not exist because Quran is prefect without any spelling mistakes, grammatical mistakes nor historical and scientific mistakes) while their so called 'holy book' is riff with gaffs and bloopers.
I mean sure Dr. Brubaker got a PhD when it comes to Qur'anic manuscripts, but he clearly failed to get basic education on the subject of Arabic grammar (Rookie mistake for someone with a PhD).
Can't really work with one if you don't have the other...
Thanks brother Mansur for sparing your time to clarify something that should otherwise be simple to understand.
This is very common across all fields among the western academic system.
يُريدون لِيُطفِئوا نورَ اللهِ بِأَفْوَاهِهِم.
وَدُّواْ لَوْ تكْفُرُونَ كَمَا كفرواْ فتكونون سوآءً.
حَسَدًا مِّنْ عِندِ أَنفُسِهِم.
وَجَعَلْنَا عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ أَكِنَّةً أَن يَفْقَهُوهُ وَفِي ءَاذَانِهِمْ وَقْرًا وَإِذَا ذَكَرْتَ رَبَّكَ فِي الْقُرْءَانِ وَحْدَهُ وَلَّوْاْ عَلَىٰ أَدْبَٰرِهِمْ نُفُورًا
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