@@alonzoharris9049 i am not a muhamadum but i get attacked for saying mary is not the son of jesus,,you need to makers (parents) to have a child,so mary cant be jesus mother,or shes jesus creator/maker/parent...now by your logic mary is the mother of jesus,so god must be the father of adam,as he made from clay...what did mary make jesus out of??? keep mocking me and the muhamadums,jesus told you to bless your mockers,so god bless
Shabir Ali admitted that the palimpsest was erased and rewritten. He said that they always knew about the different Qurans with different words and meanings and Muslims are repeating what they've been told. His admission is very similar to Sheikh Yasir Qadhi who said that the standard narrative has holes in it and doesn't answer pressing questions from western scholars who are very right about points they bring up.
@@Elazhar-qm2oc You lie i was told they put a pen in yarfours mouth ie yarfour the talking queer pony and he wrote it for more ham mad just as he mounted 3 times in the cave etc so stop lying ok 😊
This interesting video does not say WHY this issue of the "perfect preservation of the Qur'an" is so important. Why is it so important for Muslims and non-Muslims alike? It is because of the accusation of "falsification" that Muslims constantly bring against the sacred texts of Christians or Jews to undermine their credibility or authority and, of course, to affirm the absolute truth of the Koran if it differs from those texts. Now we can turn the accusation of falsification against them and against Islam's claim to rest on the perfect, unadulterated, and authentic word of God! One of the major claims used to assert the "superiority" of islam!
@@thydarkarts Perhaps, but this is not what is taught to Muslims, that is, traditional doctrine. The doctrine of falsification goes much further than what the Qur'an may suggest. Its purpose is essentially to maintain the superiority of the so-called Qur'anic "revelation" when it contradicts the previous "revelations" and their texts which include the Gospels. For instance, the Koran denies that Jesus died on the Cross while the crucifixion is recognized by all experts as an historical fact even among the most critical scholars of the Gospels.
Moe invented Islam for the benefit of Moe. No one would be more shocked than Moe to discover that Islam took off into a world religion. He is probably having a good laugh in Hell.
@@rhydyard the world cant tell the time its just a big round globe....people are running out of time.when god asks you "did i have a mother called mary",are your going to say "yes" you had a mother....good luck with that
It's much like a boulder rolling down a hill. As time goes by it picks up speed until there is no stopping it. The boulder of apostasy started some time ago & is building speed. Soon, it will be unstoppable. Islam will soon be dead & is now on life support.
Muslims are born into their religion. They live in groups their whole lives, therefore they find it harder to go against the grain as they will be ostracized. They have no personal relationship between themselves and God. It’s so sad to know the shame they are going to feel when they stand before the throne of God and see the real identity of Jesus. Keep up the good work dr Jay and Al-fadi. Ex- Muslim.
@@thydarkarts Instead of seeking the Truth, Muslims are fighting to make Islam seem true... Why is your god so insecure that he needs to kill people if they go against him? I thought he wanted people to repent...but I guess not. (The devil comes to kill and destroy. In Jesus' time, Satan tried his best to kill Jesus, but when he realized that Jesus purposely came to die for our sin, he ran to Islam to preach that Jesus was not the Son of God, Satan made a whole religion for himself, Islam: Twisting scripture, confusing truths, work-based salvation, and teaching idolatry, and Muhammad trusted in those lies that Satan told him, but God was there to show Muhammad the truth, yet he still denied it and went on to be possessed by Satan. You can't be Muslim without obeying Muhammad, so basically, Muhammad is the perfect image of Allah)
@@spiritualyea2798 Three lies you lot say about your profit and the mother of the believers, the two most significant people in your religion. 1. She was six, but it was the culture to marry young at that time. 2. He only married her as god told him to do this. 3. She was an adult, between 15 and 19. Each story is made by you lot, and you lot will say each one is a lie. This defines how truthful your fake religion is.
When your own scholars tell you everything you have been told is false don't get rid of your scholars just listen and learn. The truth is often painful, but better than living a lie.
No-one understands God. Your statement is from ego. I bet the thing you criticize. Is that which you have never read. A fool reviews what they have not read. Are you a fool?
I wonder if it might be possible to discover the original text of these pages behind the tape covering or still visible even if erased or written over. If so, I would like to see an edition of the Qur'an based upon the latest scholarship, also rewriting the passages that contain Aramaic words. Such an edition would necessarily include many footnotes, introductory comments, and appendixes. Passages that cannot be rewritten but are thought to be inserted by men in later centuries could be identified as such.
@@SirPoopallot ... It is not inevitable that mistakes and corrections and insertions do happen in writing, especially in dictation. I know you had experienced this when you had undergone catching up with the dictation of your teacher in your school days. You have to refer to your classmates. If there are mistakes, you erased them, and superimposed with the correct ones. If there are missing words, you inserted them. This is even happening in this computer age. You edit. You correct. You delete. You undo. That is what happened to the parchments. So, nothing is wrong with that. Good enough for the Qur'an, there are parchments that served as the original manuscripts. What about the original Gospel. None. Nothing. Not a single parchment or manuscript can be found. Jay Smith and Abdul Fadi are just sour-graping. -07-14-23
@@azoniarnl3362 fastest breeding religion... dont act as if its growing by conversions, infacts the amount of people who leave islam is close to that of the amount christians that leave christianity every year..
Hello, Great to bring this back again! The simple questions for Muslims to answer: Why correct the preserved eternal Koran ? Who is allowed to make changes on the original manuscripts ? Why standardise a perfect revelation given to Muhammad through Jibril? Where is the all wise , all knowing, All powerful ALLAH in this process??
@@alonzoharris9049 Do not jump like a rabbit! Reply to the video!! Did you watch the video entirely?? It is seems that you only want to vomit your old stupid arguments that have been debunked long ago!!!
Yeah, yeah! Keep believing people are fools, and no one in 1400 years understands but those idiots. Of those claims would be right, the church would have used them.
The topic of preservation is interesting but the stupidity of what is written in the Quran is much more damning to Islam then how or when it was written.
Exactly! It’s like me saying “I’ve been saying for years that the world is flat and the sun circles our flat planet. And since i have never changed my mind i must be right”😂😂😂
@@GhostProtocol-yl8tc yoga, meditation and seva are core values of a Hindu thats why we are succesfull in every country we go to. Muslims are the victim of islam
That is the problem with Internet it keeps bombarding you with similar contents, to the degree you think that is the whole Internet, the truth is you in a bubble of your own fantasy.
@@TheAmrthe2nd Christians don’t kill nonbelievers, how many terrors groups represent Christians? Btw I am neither Christian nor Muslim, but Earth without Islam would be a lot peaceful for humanity. Muslims either don’t read or pretend not to be aware, it’s in your book just read it and see how violent that book it
@@TheAmrthe2nd The real God, Christians serve him. Islam is from Satan. Violence, intolerance, slavery, horrible treatment of women & a million other evil things. Islam is obviously from Satan.
Oh my. I just seen that debate for the first time yesterday, February 11, 2024. When he said there had to be Divine Intervention in Quran because of having the exact amount of opposite words. I couldnt help but laugh at that elementary man-made ridiculous example. More than anything I wanted to jump back to 2014 and ask Him if he knew about the Divine Intervention he could see for himself through the Hidden Code and Messages in the True Word of God, Our Holy Bible that have been discovered. Chuck Missler, amazing Teacher and explains the founded code. R.I.H. Chuck! Absolutely mind-blowin. Very obvious which book is the True record of the Word of God
Islam is only growing. Your presence is evidence of this. It’s frustration that the religion that thinks your Christian religion of three gods goes in line with natural inclination.
@@townseydroidborleyboy8024 its said she was a 9yr old,but he was having other kinds of sex with her b4 she grew a hair,why does the quran hide this???because they are ashamed...go read about the female body...i am so happy he is roasting in hell and smoking like char coal
Researchers at the University of Birmingham in Britain have discovered that a manuscript of the Qur’an that has been in the university’s library for about a hundred years may be the oldest copy of the Qur’an ever. The manuscript found in the university library dates back to at least 1,370 years ago. After examining them using radiocarbon technology, the researchers found that the pages of the manuscript date back to the period between 568 and 645 AD, which is approximately the same period in which the Prophet Muhammad lived, who is believed to have lived between 570 and 632 AD. Based on this, they expected that the manuscript was written during the reign of the Prophet Muhammad or a few years after his death, knowing that the period of Qur’anic revelation lasted between 610 and 632 AD. David Thomas, professor of Christianity and Islam at the University of Birmingham, said, "The person who wrote this manuscript may have known the Prophet Muhammad," adding, "He may have seen the Messenger. He may have heard him calling for religion. He may also have known him personally." He added, "The parts of the Qur’an found in this manuscript are identical to the Qur’anic text that people read in the Qur’an today."
@@AAA-q3f4j One single sahih Hadith disproves Islåm and Qur'an !!! Sahih Muslim 2953 a Anas reported that a person asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as to when the Last Hour would come. He had in his presence a young boy of the Ansar who was called Muhammad. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: If this young boy lives, he may not grow very old till the Last Hour coming to you. وَحَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا يُونُسُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، عَنْ حَمَّادِ بْنِ سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ ثَابِتٍ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، سَأَلَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مَتَى تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ وَعِنْدَهُ غُلاَمٌ مِنَ الأَنْصَارِ يُقَالُ لَهُ مُحَمَّدٌ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " إِنْ يَعِشْ هَذَا الْغُلاَمُ فَعَسَى أَنْ لاَ يُدْرِكَهُ الْهَرَمُ حَتَّى تَقُومَ السَّاعَةُ " . Reference : Sahih Muslim 2953a In-book reference : Book 54, Hadith 171 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 41, Hadith 7051 (deprecated numbering scheme)
قَالَ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۠ رَسُولُ رَبِّكِ لِأَهَبَ لَكِ غُلَـٰمًۭا زَكِيًّۭا He responded, “I am only a messenger from your Lord, ˹sent˺ to bless you with a pure son.” That is the verse "Maryem 19"
@@tasneembashir2733 Tashneem, do you know what RIGHTEOUS means? It doesn't mean good or nice or smart, it means SINLESS. What human being is SINLESS? Only God is sinless.
I would actually be interested in seeing what someone like Alonzo has to say in regard to the actual content of this video. What does a Muslim who believes in the miraculous preservation of the Quran have to say in response to clear photographic evidence of manuscript manipulation? Unfortunately, we all know that someone like that is incapable of staying on topic.
@@Giant_Meteor The answer is very simple. I love your confidence.🥴🤣 Let me break it down for you and spoil your party.🥴🤣 Brubaker has been refuted by Dr Sidki and Dr Altikulac. He has no response for their refutation. They are far bigger names in this field. Brubaker is a Christian apologist and a nobody.🫠 All the examples have earlier manuscripts and correspond with the Quran we have. This Christian apologist hides this from his work. He pretends that those examples have no earlier manuscripts. That’s proven to be false. You can read Sidki and Altikulac. That’s the first point that debunks his unproven claims. The second point is that Muslims never claimed to rely on manuscripts in the first place for preservation. It has never been the method of preservation. That’s why you can’t use textual criticism against Muslims. It’s Christians that claim that the bible is preserved through manuscripts. All the bibles and reconstruction of the bible rely on manuscripts. It’s Christians that claim preservation through manuscripts. We use textual criticism against them. It’s called an internal critic. The Quran is defined as recitation. We don’t rely on manuscripts written by anonymous people for the Quran. Jay Smith is misrepresenting the position of Muslims. He is doing a strawman. This video is another cheap propaganda video from Laurel and Hardy.🥴🤣
19 numerology: a real question would be : does this calculation exist in the Saana text? Were the scribes aware of it at the time they amended the manuscript? Was the numerology transposed on the new versions?
In my India we have a saying: Musalman, beiman=Muslim is untrustworthy. TAQUIYYA AND KITMAN are words which describes LEGAL LYING in their books! 2 more such words.
No ancient text is, of course. These religious texts, if you study them in context, are man-made creations of their time and place. Of course, someone who follows a certain religion wants to think that "their" text is the "word of god".
I know that this has nothing to do with the topic, but i just discovered this hadith yesterday about the function of the eyes in islamic tradition compared to what the gospel says on the subject, i find it interesting, I leave it uncommented, just look at the facts and make up your own mind. Matthew 6:22-23 The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy (implies generous), your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness! Sunan Abi Dawud 203 Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: The eyes are the leather strap of the anus, so one who sleeps should perform ablution. Grad: Hasan
4000 corrections? and yet this guy only showed a few and did not explain what it meant or suppose to have meant with and without the corrections. This doesnt prove anything.
He said " eviscerate THE Quran ." He admits there is only ONE Quran. All he has to do now is to read the same Surah from " two different " copies to prove they are different . One God. One Quran . One Islam practiced by all the Prophets. THE PRESERVATION OF THE QURAN IS IN THE RECITATION. Not paper like the Bible. Take a Chinese and an African Muslim and see if they RECITE DIFFERENTLY . This is concrete proof. What you do is cast aspersions. Aspersions are not evidence. In the absence of water, Muslims use sand and stones to clean themselves. You want them to write Quran on stones. THE WORLD OF THE UNSEEN. Muslims do not use the world of the UNSEEN to convey the message of Islam or to refute falsehoods. The black dog , the donkey and a woman PASSING IN FRONT OF A PRAYING PERSON IS THE WORLD OF THE UNSEEN. IN FACT, ANYONE PASSING IN FRONT OF A PERSON NULLIFIES THEIR PRAYER ACCORDING TO THE OTHER BETTER KNOWN SAHIH HADITH. This is so serious that you are allowed to strike the person passing in front of you . Women pray behind men so the occurrence of this is a rarity. Donkeys and dogs in prayer area ? No. But Islam is for all times and situations . Muslims do not go into area of UNSEEN to convey information. Muslims will never say that Christians eat human flesh and drink the blood and bathe in the blood of a prophet. Muslims know that human sacrifice., a vile practice of the Pagans, is at the heart of Christian belief but Muslims for not focus on this . Muslims prefer to deal with the belief that Our Lord and Creator has partners and we seek refuge in Allah from this. That God is three when Jesus peace be unto him said that "...the Lord, your God, is One...". The Prophets took pains testify that Our Lord and Creator is One and to accept the Prophets and not philosophers like Paul and Timothy and those who feel that they know better than the Prophets. Most of what was prescribed for the Jews is in Islam. The Jews have lost their prostration as their scholars have lamented but they still bow halfway and have siyaam or standing. Notice that they all face the wall in Jerusalem .This is not worshipping the wall as they slander about the Muslims and the House in Mecca . This is to avoid facing humans as you pray. Christians and Hindus face their priests and Pastors when they pray .
There clearly is a distinction to make between the initial meaning of the coranic text (which was originally christian, though anti-trinitarian) and the meaning that was imposed (and distorted) later (9th and 10th centuries) by the abbassid caliphs (with the creation of the so-called "prophetic tradition" or "sunnah" with a multitude of hadiths, tafsir and siraa inventions). Their goal was to create a new religion serving their imperial interests of conquest and domination by the sword ... which still persists today
Qadhu (pumpkin) said that Dr. Brubaker has an agenda and I believe Dr. Yasir Qaddu Yes there is an agenda. Agenda is to examine your claims (mr pumpkin) and see how much of what you are blabbering is actually true 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think the problem of the Qira'at and Ahruf is more damaging because it's what the common people (let say 95% of the muslims) understand. The problem of the Rasm is beyond their understanding and it's more a case for the scholars (sheiks and ulama).
Yes, you are absolutely correct. That is why Hatun is hated so much by the Muslim internet crowd and those who harass her and even try to kill her at Speaker's Corner, while Dr Brubaker has little to no confrontation or threats aimed at him. Yet, his material is indeed much more damaging academically, because it proves that the earliest manuscripts are patent examples of man-made writings, which are then corrected in the centuries that followed, but these ideas are just too difficult for most Muslims to understand, let alone to respond with cojent rebuttals, outside of their simplistic retort: "these are only examples of 'Scribal errors'", etc...
@@pfanderfilmsNo, his work obviously does not prove the manuscripts are "man -made writings". The variations are extremely minor - and the exceptions, not the norm. The standard reading can also be found in multiple other manuscripts, thus we can be sure that the text has not been changed + these corrections were made to correct mere scribal errors.
@@alfiras8604 Hey alfi - Nice to meet you. I think you have an objective problem with the quran. Please read the following and muslims have to get this through their heads as this is the absolute quranic, islamic standard : The quran was inscribed on tablets before it was oral. Surah 85:21~22 (Nay; but his is a glorious Qur'an, inscribed on a well-guarded Tablet - That is, the writ of the Quran is unchangeable and imperishable. It is inscribed in the guarded tablet of God, which cannot be corrupted in any way. Whatever is written in it has to be fulfilled: even the whole world together cannot avert its fulfillment. #1 The quran was written (INSCRIBED) on tablets in perfect form WITHOUT qi'rat. It was NOT oral #2 This CAN NOT BE the uncreated as the tablets are in the 7 heavens and read by jibril (which angels can not do) #3 How can something that is eternal be guarded?? Can you guard allah? #4 There are over 100 Different versions of the quran with over 100 Different recitations of the quran. It has been bastardized to death #5 You CAN NOT have a single change, NOT even a symbol or character. #6 quran, allah, mahamed are 100% pagan and FALSE.
@@alfiras8604 Hey alfi. Please consider Truth and a beautiful eternal life through Jesus Christ : Leave islam if you are sincere. Jesus: "Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." Luke 23:34 Muhamed: "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets." bukhar vol 1 #427 Jesus: Had NO slaves. Do to others as you would have them do to you. meaning Love yourself, Love others, and don't enslave others against their will Muhamed: was a slaver. Owned and sold many slaves, male and female. he said that allah allowed him and his followers to have sex with their female slaves. quran, sura 33:50, 52 23:5 , 70:30 Jesus: Matthew 5:44 "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" muhamed : Killed 800 people including children for not following him Jesus: was without sin. John 8:46 "Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth why don't you believe me? 2 Corinthians 5:21 Muhamed: was full of sin. Sura 40:55, Sura 48:1-2 . he also prayed for forgiveness of his sins, sahih bukhari volume 9, #482 Jesus: Did not marry of his choice. muhamed: married a 6 year old and had sex with her at 9. DISGUSTING! Jesus: Teached purity on the Sermon on the mount mihamed: had 13 wives and was an adulterer pursuing other men's wives Jesus: Said God love everyone. (John 3:16) mahomod: said allah hates those who don't accept islam quran 30:4, 3:32, 22:38 Jesus : Protected women : Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" mehemed: Stoned women for adultery. (muslim 4206)
Jay Smith calmly and systematically has been educating the world on the history and the inaccuracies of the Koran. From the original texts being incorrectly dated to mecca really being Petra to the where the sun sets to wjere sperm comes from....on amd on and on.
@PfanderFilms Hi Dr, Jay Smith. I was born and raised all my adulthood in the middle east. I have been watching your videos for 10 years and i learned so much about islam and quran verses that they never taught about them at our schools. I remember your videos were viewed thousands, but after you joined Al Fadi, your viewers get less and less. Why? Because your viewers know you are associating with the wrong person. I remember in one of your videos you asked Al Fadi "You graduated from Al Aqsa University how come you never knew the first mosques were built in the direction of Petra. Mr. Al fadi replied "because we didn't know". How can we trust this guy Al Fadi graduated from the top notch university from the heart of the Rasul Allah?
You may not know that Al Fadi is working on his Doctoral thesis in Islamic Studies and the modern way is to present the work in a video series as a 'publication' of the ideas and concepts being covered. yes, Dr Jay has covered all these topics before but these are also a 'refresh' of many aspects where new light has been shone or new discoveries have been made. The other updates from these sessions are the responses from the Muslim world to the growing spread of these revelations. And that is probably the most significant outcome of the tireless work of many scholars like Dr Jay Smith and his students to offer a properly founded Apologetics approach to Islam.
@@brucemills6558 You are funny.🤣 Where does he study? What is his name? Can you show me one single evidence for his fantasy stories?🤣 Jay Smith and Fadi are both two fake names. That says it all.🤣
ego et Pater unum sumus I and the god Jupiter are one. 31sustulerunt lapides Iudaei ut lapidarent eum The Jews then took up stones to stone him. 32respondit eis Iesus multa opera bona ostendi vobis ex Patre meo propter quod eorum opus me lapidatis Jesus answered them: Many good works I have shewed you from my god Jupiter. For which of those works do you stone me? responderunt ei Iudaei de bono opere non lapidamus te sed de blasphemia et quia tu homo cum sis facis te ipsum Deum The Jews answered him: For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy
He havent even pointed out a single mistake......without understanding what is the mistake.....? Do you they know Arabic.....nor they quoted any verse saying its a mistake ........where as you find people adding words and deleating in the bible .....no 2 bibles are identical as for the quran where all quran all 7 readings weather its morroco or Malaysia or saudi one follows 114 surahs....its infallible .....show me same for the bible
5). The main source transmission of the Quran is not mushaf (manuscript) Christian Polemicist often questioned the absence of a quranic manuscript from the uthmanic era (7th century) as evidence that the Quran is no longer authentic. So why the Christian Polemicist ask this silly question, because If we ask them, where is the first century Gospel written by the disciples of Jesus. Nobody can answer that question either. This question arise because Christian Polemicist realised that Bible is not the word of God, it is written by man and it has undergone many changes. Well..... we quite understand their feeling. Here is a confusion made by jay smith. ua-cam.com/video/CYd1s_qlNkU/v-deo.html I think Christian Polemicist are envious because the Bible can never claim to be word of God a holy book whose authenticity is preserved like the Quran.... Ha ha ha. The existence of the early quranic manuscript cannot be used as an indication to measure the authenticity of the quran. The main reason is because the main source transmission of the Quran is not mushaf (manuscript) but by memorization the whole Quran. Quran is in fact the only sacred text that be completely memorized by people. This video shows someone that produces three copies of the Quran from memory (see at 3.00/3.50 min) ua-cam.com/video/qp5TvIyJHoQ/v-deo.html The practice of producing a complete Quranic manuscript, totally from memory, has been practiced for more than 1400 years. Most of the written Quran before the invention of printing machines were derived from memory. The widely used Quran in The world today was derived, not from written manuscript (mushaf), but from memorized Hafs Recitation that put into written form. This standard Quran printed in Egypt in 1924, and now used by 95 percent of Muslim world including Iran) 6). Uthman Burning of Quranic Manuscript Christian Polemicists often questions the story of Caliph Usman's order to burn Quranic scattered manuscripts. This isn't strange because even today Muslims still burning I'll-written, I'll-printed, and scattered disorganized Quran manuscripts. They burn it in public every year and nothing wrong with that. Standardization of the Quran for the first time is important. After the death of the prophet, Abu Bakr, the first Caliph, appointed a committee consists of four prophet scribers who memorized the whole Quran. This committee was ordered to find the scattered Quran from various sources and compile them into a single manuscript, latter called Hafsah Manuscript (named after prophet widow) Uthman then ordered people to burn all scattered Quranic manuscripts and ordered people to follow the standard Quran written and read in Quraishi dialect (used by the prophet). Caliph Uthman then ordered the committee to make several copies of the Standard Quran and send the copies to every province. Every copy was accompanied with someone who memorize the entire Quran to teach people how to read and memorized the Quran. As the caliph (head of the state) Uthman has the right to burn scattered Quranic manuscript that does not conform to standard text. The existence of scattered disorganized Quran manuscript will confuse people who read it. standardization is modern way of thinking, Even today everything is standardized. Uthman action was praised by every Muslims throughout the history. Not all scattered manuscripts were successfully burned, few survived. The Birmingham Quran manuscript is a parchment on which two leaves of an early Quranic manuscript are written, is probably part of scattered manuscript that survive. In 2015 the manuscript, was radiocarbon dated to between 568 and 645 CE. Since the Uthmanic Quranic standard was completed around 650 CE, the Birmingham parchment was written before Uthmanic standardized the Quran. The writer may have known the prophet personally. Upon closer inspection, these portions is very close to the form of the Qur’an read today, supporting the view that the text has undergone little or no alteration and that it can be dated to a point very close to the time it was believed to be revealed. 7). Dan Brubakers work on Quran Corection prove Quran preservation Dan Brubaker has done a good job on analysing correction in early Qur'an manuscript. Those correction were made by people who memorized Quran more than thousands years ago. He found the corrected version is very similar to Hafs Quran printed in 1924. Christians polemicist often misused Dan's finding by circulating a big lie about Quranic manuscript corrections as corruption that the Qur'an is not preserved. But w hen someone asks Brubaker how similar early Qur'an are? The answer is YES by and large they are very similar. Watch the answer starting at this time 2:30/15.40. ##ua-cam.com/video/kGGSTzc-5YE/v-deo.html In this video and in any other Dan Brubackers on correction in early Qur'an manuscript, you will not find a single word from him indicating there are corruption in the early Qur'an manuscript. Dan Brubackers finding prove that Quran is preserved.
Jay Smith and Al Fadi, tried everything they could to create a false story about the Quran. They repeat the same lie over and over again. 1). Variations in reading the Qoran are facts The reading variations of the Quran is a fact. Muslims have known this fact for more than 1400 years. Here is a good video about variants of recitation of the Qur'an ua-cam.com/video/K11XfOfTFAU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/VQ4yWKH7YEo/v-deo.html Jay Smith in various lying videos he made said that Muslims do not know that there are various variants of reading the Quran. The difference in reading was only discovered by hattun trash less than 5 years ago by accident. Jay Smith then made a video asking why Muslims hide the various variants of the reading Muslims have known the difference in these readings since the time of the prophet, even at that time the prophet said that all readings are true, because the Qur'an was revealed in seven ahruf (dialect). In the authentic hadith of Bukhari Juz. 9 hadith No. 2419 is told about the existence of seven akhruf, Narrated by the famous Caliph Umar bin Al-Khattab (RA): “I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me." The Prophet (ﷺ) ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah s Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easier for you." 2) Seven Ahruf means Many Dialect The word seven in Seven Ahruf is like seven heaven. Seven ahruf means many dialect. A well known and easy to find an example of ahruf is the subtle difference is the word in Chapter 2 Verse 183. Here is the video of jay smith, the biggest Christian liar ua-cam.com/video/OiWDFAspShM/v-deo.html In the video they criticize the verses written in Rasm Usman (skeletal text) toamu miskin اطعم مسكين The first word اطعم is read and meant the same in all reading, the difference is in how to read the second word مسكين in the reading of Hafs - Miskeenen - poor person Warsh - Masakeenen - poor people Jay Smith cannot answer which one is true and which one is false, because the skeletal text is exactly the same in all quranic manuscript, they are all follow the Usmanic Rasm. Differences arise when some of the same skeletal text is read by people with different dialects. Muslims have no trouble choosing one of these two options. Because the Prophet said, "The Qur'an was revealed in seven ahruf, so read it in a way that is easier for you". Based on the commandment, There is a rule that has been in effect since 1400 years ago, you can feed one poor person or Feed many poor people. If you are rich, you can feed more than one, two or three people If you are very rich, you can feed all the poor people in your city. If you are an ordinary person, just feed one person if you are poor feed yourself.... hahaha So where are the big theological differences that they always exaggerate. This reading variant only enriches the meaning.... hahaha Some Kind of Qiraat Also present in English language ua-cam.com/video/VQ4yWKH7YEo/v-deo.html An American and an Englishman will use different expressions when describing the team that is playing The team is playing -> US English The team are playing -> UK English The Quran contains numerous examples similar to the one mentioned above. While the Rasm (skeletal text) remains unchanged, variations in reading and interpretation can lead to different meanings. 3). The Qur'an is Exactly the Same, What Does It Mean? What is meant by the exact same Qur'an is the Qur'an with the same rasm (skeletal text). Namely Rasm Usmani, ". Native Arabs have no trouble reading the Quran without dots and vowelization. The reading may vary slightly depending on the dialect of the reader. In the way of reading qira'at, there are two categories, namely Mutawatir and Mashur . Mutawatir: transmissions that have independent chains of authority so wide that the possibility of error is ruled out and consensus is possible. Mashur: it's a little less extensive in its transmission, but its spread is still so wide that there's very little chance of an error. So even though the Rasm of the Quran used throughout the world is the same Rasm Usmani, but the way of reading or qiraat comes from readings approved or known to the prophet. This reading is transmitted orally and by memory just like the narration of hadith, starting from the prophet to one of the qiraat narrators. In the Quran qira’ar or reading there are 7 qira'at mutawatir and 3 qira'at mashhur. Included in the qiraat of Mutawatir are: Nafi' (d. 169/785) Ibn Kathir (d. 120/737) Abu 'Amr ibn al-'Ala' (d. 154/762) Ibn 'Amir (d. 154/762) ‘Asim (d. 127/744) Hamza (died 156/772) al-Kisa'i (d. 189/904) While what is included in Mashur's qiraat: Abu Ja'far (d. 130/747) Ya'qub (d. 205/820) Khalaf (d. 229/843) There are also some rare readings that are generally ignored. Each of the ten reader has two students (transmitters) who transmits the recitation of their reader. The most widely used recitation of the Qur'an is the recitation of Hafs. Imam Hafs learned it from Imam Asim etc., therefore the chain of reading history of Hafs like this Imam Hafs bin Suleiman bin al-Mughirah al-Asadi al-Kufi learned from Aasim bin Abi al-Najud al-Kufi al-Tabi'i from Abu ' Abd al-Rahman al-Sulami from Uthman bin Affan, Ali, Ubayy bin Ka'b, and Zaid bin Thabit from the Prophet Muhammad. So even though the Rasm Quran used throughout the world is the same, namely Rasm Usmani, but the way of reading or qiraat comes from readings approved or known by the Prophet. This reading is conveyed orally and by line of transmission like a hadith, from the prophet to one of the narrators of Qiraat, namely Mutawatir or Mashur. 4) Dots and Vocalization addition Jay smith lied when he said the native arabs can't read arabic script without dots and vocalizations. Of course it's a lie. Native arabic speakers can read arabic writing without dots and vocalizations. They can read the text and understand the meaning. What happened was the same as when native Arabs read Arabic newspapers today. Even though the skeletal text (rasm) reads the same, without periods and vowels, most of the words are read exactly the same, but some people in Morocco may read a few words and understand them slightly differently than Arabs who live in Oman. For native Arabs these dots and vocalizations are not needed. But The absence of dots and vocalizations makes it difficult for people who do not understand Arabic to read the Qur'an. To guide non-Arabs in reading the Qur'an, people added dots and vowels, and these additions occurred about a hundred years after the Qur'an was first written. This addition of follow the similar approach occurred decades earlier for Jewish texts.
By the way, just to clarify; The Sanaa manuscript was written by a STUDENT. So of course there will be wrong and right, even in Surah Al Tawbah it’s written “Do not say bismillah” with is by a teacher
Changes in Al Quran have been made by Islamic Scholars by putting words in brackets, while translating and also changed meaning of many words as compared to original Aiyats written in Arabic Quran ( in He jaji Or kufi Arabic language )
Always glad to hear more from Dr. Brubaker. His work is top notch.
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@@alonzoharris9049 i am not a muhamadum but i get attacked for saying mary is not the son of jesus,,you need to makers (parents) to have a child,so mary cant be jesus mother,or shes jesus creator/maker/parent...now by your logic mary is the mother of jesus,so god must be the father of adam,as he made from clay...what did mary make jesus out of??? keep mocking me and the muhamadums,jesus told you to bless your mockers,so god bless
@@alonzoharris9049 "I'm a clown 🤡 "
- Alonzo Harris
@@alonzoharris9049 mohamPPll EEEGG rusuI is in heII
This is embarrassing for the standard narratives full of holes.
Shabir Ali admitted that the palimpsest was erased and rewritten. He said that they always knew about the different Qurans with different words and meanings and Muslims are repeating what they've been told. His admission is very similar to Sheikh Yasir Qadhi who said that the standard narrative has holes in it and doesn't answer pressing questions from western scholars who are very right about points they bring up.
There is no Holes.the koran was written by ali ibn abou talib
Shabir is a munafik like yasser qadhi
It’s time 🕰️ 5 - 2 and 5 - 10
To bring down false vain imaginations that enslave over a billion people.
@@Elazhar-qm2oc
You lie i was told they put a pen in yarfours mouth ie yarfour the talking queer pony and he wrote it for more ham mad just as he mounted 3 times in the cave etc so stop lying ok 😊
@@P.H.888
??? Take down or make taboo to even mention ever again 🤔🤔🤔
As they say, "... the plot thickens."
This interesting video does not say WHY this issue of the "perfect preservation of the Qur'an" is so important. Why is it so important for Muslims and non-Muslims alike? It is because of the accusation of "falsification" that Muslims constantly bring against the sacred texts of Christians or Jews to undermine their credibility or authority and, of course, to affirm the absolute truth of the Koran if it differs from those texts. Now we can turn the accusation of falsification against them and against Islam's claim to rest on the perfect, unadulterated, and authentic word of God! One of the major claims used to assert the "superiority" of islam!
You can’t. 🥴🤣
@@alonzoharris9049 you cant prove theres 3 gods,you commit shirk by believing theres other gods than miss allah your pagan moon godess xxx
because Muslims must be absolute about these things, so they can be beyond challenge.
@@alonzoharris9049 who are these 3 gods?? isa miriam and miss allah
@@thydarkarts Perhaps, but this is not what is taught to Muslims, that is, traditional doctrine. The doctrine of falsification goes much further than what the Qur'an may suggest. Its purpose is essentially to maintain the superiority of the so-called Qur'anic "revelation" when it contradicts the previous "revelations" and their texts which include the Gospels. For instance, the Koran denies that Jesus died on the Cross while the crucifixion is recognized by all experts as an historical fact even among the most critical scholars of the Gospels.
Dear Al Fadi, thank you for chronological story of this subject in your description box, it's very helpful and informative
I feel ANYONE digging into the Quran (let alone Hadith) will uncover how incredibly unreliable and self-centered it is.
Moe invented Islam for the benefit of Moe. No one would be more shocked than Moe to discover that Islam took off into a world religion. He is probably having a good laugh in Hell.
Right, no need to be a Nobel prize to see that
Let the truth speak for it self . Islam is running out of time ...
The whole world is running out of time..,
@@rhydyard the world cant tell the time its just a big round globe....people are running out of time.when god asks you "did i have a mother called mary",are your going to say "yes" you had a mother....good luck with that
@@pigmeatishambacon Lay off the sauce mate.. it's a bit early in the day..🙄
Without LIES islam DIES
@@normalisoverrated its dying like muhammad,very slowly,but dying
Avalanche of apostasy is coming.
- Muslim sheikh
A muslim is only a person who follow ahl el bayt
It's much like a boulder rolling down a hill. As time goes by it picks up speed until there is no stopping it. The boulder of apostasy started some time ago & is building speed. Soon, it will be unstoppable. Islam will soon be dead & is now on life support.
There are studies from Iran that confirm this.
Muslims are born into their religion. They live in groups their whole lives, therefore they find it harder to go against the grain as they will be ostracized. They have no personal relationship between themselves and God. It’s so sad to know the shame they are going to feel when they stand before the throne of God and see the real identity of Jesus. Keep up the good work dr Jay and Al-fadi. Ex- Muslim.
It's like Mormonism.
Youvs gone from worshipping a god and prophet who never existed to worshipping another god and prophet who never existed.
Christians worship a god who died. Lol.
Fastest breeding cvlt indeed
@@GhostProtocol-yl8tcproof?
You'll find more holes in quran than in donut shop
I like how easy it is to absolutely destroy islam
I know, right? It's so much fun!
@@thydarkartsif it was going to do what you say, why is it taking 1,000 years?
@@Draezeth good luck with that. We will take over 100% of the world. Look at france 20% Muslims and fastest growing religions in the world
@@thydarkarts Instead of seeking the Truth, Muslims are fighting to make Islam seem true... Why is your god so insecure that he needs to kill people if they go against him? I thought he wanted people to repent...but I guess not.
(The devil comes to kill and destroy. In Jesus' time, Satan tried his best to kill Jesus, but when he realized that Jesus purposely came to die for our sin, he ran to Islam to preach that Jesus was not the Son of God, Satan made a whole religion for himself, Islam: Twisting scripture, confusing truths, work-based salvation, and teaching idolatry, and Muhammad trusted in those lies that Satan told him, but God was there to show Muhammad the truth, yet he still denied it and went on to be possessed by Satan. You can't be Muslim without obeying Muhammad, so basically, Muhammad is the perfect image of Allah)
@@thydarkarts lol a button will obliterate ur sand dunes..stupid abdools
*WITHOUT THE LIES, ISLAM DIES!* 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Without lies Christianity dies
@@spiritualyea2798 show us the lies.
@@spiritualyea2798 Three lies you lot say about your profit and the mother of the believers, the two most significant people in your religion. 1. She was six, but it was the culture to marry young at that time. 2. He only married her as god told him to do this. 3. She was an adult, between 15 and 19.
Each story is made by you lot, and you lot will say each one is a lie. This defines how truthful your fake religion is.
@@therockofsalvation35 ارميا ٢٠:٧ قَدْ يخدعتني يَا رَبُّ فَاقْتَنَعْتُ، وَأَلْحَحْتَ عَلَيَّ فَغَلَبْتَ. صِرْتُ لِلضَّحِكِ كُلَّ النَّهَارِ. كُلُّ وَاحِدٍ اسْتَهْزَأَ بِي.
@@spiritualyea2798without lies Islam dies. You don't want to accept the the lies from your stupid Allah. 😢😢
Man the internet is islams worst nightmare😮
Still they will pretend the errors don't exist 🤣
Even if he found 10,000 errors in the Qur'an , it would make no difference to the followers of Mohammed, sadly....
When your own scholars tell you everything you have been told is false don't get rid of your scholars just listen and learn. The truth is often painful, but better than living a lie.
Good one 👍
Your scholar is Jay Smith.🥴🤣
@@alonzoharris9049 He's one of them yes.
@alonzoharris9049 Rather than listen to Yasir Qadhi and Shabir Ali, you prefer Muhammad Hijab and Ali Dawah as a scholar 😅
@@JaySamurai79If he listened to MoJab and AD, he would accept the holes in the narrative now!
Muslims read Quran, exmuslim understand Islam
In your dream
That’s a great way of looking at it. May God bless you, sir.
What do you believe in?
No-one understands God. Your statement is from ego. I bet the thing you criticize. Is that which you have never read. A fool reviews what they have not read. Are you a fool?
@@uthman2281 not the holes in the koran that's for sure
GBU brothers! Thank you for your efforts!
Uh oh, every day is a new tsunami of exposure coming on this"religion"...
I wonder if it might be possible to discover the original text of these pages behind the tape covering or still visible even if erased or written over. If so, I would like to see an edition of the Qur'an based upon the latest scholarship, also rewriting the passages that contain Aramaic words. Such an edition would necessarily include many footnotes, introductory comments, and appendixes. Passages that cannot be rewritten but are thought to be inserted by men in later centuries could be identified as such.
Ultraviolet scan of the pages would reveal the text under. The pigments are still deep in the parchments.
@@SirPoopallot ...
It is not inevitable that mistakes and corrections and insertions do happen in writing, especially in dictation. I know you had experienced this when you had undergone catching up with the dictation of your teacher in your school days. You have to refer to your classmates. If there are mistakes, you erased them, and superimposed with the correct ones. If there are missing words, you inserted them. This is even happening in this computer age. You edit. You correct. You delete. You undo.
That is what happened to the parchments. So, nothing is wrong with that. Good enough for the Qur'an, there are parchments that served as the original manuscripts. What about the original Gospel. None. Nothing. Not a single parchment or manuscript can be found.
Jay Smith and Abdul Fadi are just sour-graping. -07-14-23
Isssslaaaam with no answers on copypasting , fabricating , then erasing , overwritings and so on ....only has is deceptions...
Ouch! 4000 corrections to make the Hafs work. Ouch!
Is it possible to know the words that were originally written underneath the corrections?
Forensic tools and usually ultraviolet and x-ray would easily reveal them.
Islam and lies are like siamese twins!
Islam lives on lies and dies on the internet😊
Well.. its not dying, its growing faster then any other religion.
Hallouf is not good
@@azoniarnl3362 that's ok man. The Book of Revelation will decide the fate of humanity👍
@@azoniarnl3362 fastest breeding religion... dont act as if its growing by conversions, infacts the amount of people who leave islam is close to that of the amount christians that leave christianity every year..
@@stats4861 Not relevant how they become Muslim, converted or born. The numbers grow harder then any other.
Hello,
Great to bring this back again!
The simple questions for Muslims to answer:
Why correct the preserved eternal Koran ?
Who is allowed to make changes on the original manuscripts ?
Why standardise a perfect revelation given to Muhammad through Jibril?
Where is the all wise , all knowing, All powerful ALLAH in this process??
These are dumb questions. Why do you believe in three gods?
Spelling mistakes
@@alonzoharris9049 why ask the same dumb question,who are the 3 gods,where does it tell you we have 3 gods,show proof
@@Elazhar-qm2oc wot abar thim,i leek spelon mistooks i hiv adhd + abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy and zed
@@alonzoharris9049
Do not jump like a rabbit!
Reply to the video!!
Did you watch the video entirely??
It is seems that you only want to vomit your old stupid arguments that have been debunked long ago!!!
I presume, that since every muslim can secretly check this stuff on internet, Islam will rapidly disappear
Yeah, yeah! Keep believing people are fools, and no one in 1400 years understands but those idiots. Of those claims would be right, the church would have used them.
May 1 billion see this one.
Unbiasedly
Islam is false and has been changed
As its not even the words of Muhammad let alone some Allah
Only Jesus Christ son of Mary Is Rael
Could you imagine I just got notified about this content ten hours after the fact 🤦♂️
The topic of preservation is interesting but the stupidity of what is written in the Quran is much more damning to Islam then how or when it was written.
Exactly! It’s like me saying “I’ve been saying for years that the world is flat and the sun circles our flat planet. And since i have never changed my mind i must be right”😂😂😂
@@suppaman12 ..or that Sun “sets in a pool of warm water” LOL!
God bless you both and your ministry! Too many Holes not enough Lies to Cover them all! Ignorance is Bliss in islaaam!
God bless you great Informations
An ink of a pen is more trusted & more accurate than a man's memory..
😂 yeah right like you didn’t change the Bible to 10 million versions
Aye-Yai-Yai!!! That's alot of errors!
To be fair, Arabic IS a very very difficult language to learn. Seems Al-Lah struggled with it also.......
😂🤣😅👈🏼 shiz make
PooBoo 😂😅😂
@@jondoe598 WuDu PooDoo?
Reference - Mishkat al-Masabih 478. Book 3, Hadith 181
Aye-Yai-Yai? Are you the Frito Bandito?
Internet is crushing islam haha i love it!
@@GhostProtocol-yl8tc yoga, meditation and seva are core values of a Hindu thats why we are succesfull in every country we go to. Muslims are the victim of islam
That is the problem with Internet it keeps bombarding you with similar contents, to the degree you think that is the whole Internet, the truth is you in a bubble of your own fantasy.
The editors were amateurs, no Photoshop.
God bless you bro Alfadi and give u great wisdom and to U bro Jay Smith...God protect all of u as u labour for Him
All thanks to Adam Seeker, who introduced me to this person.
Why and how is this false religion still accepted and followed???? This is crazy.
Academic research exposes myths and deceptive lies.
A very interesting discussion, thank you.
I have learned the true meaning of dishonesty from you guys.
Not dishonesty. They believe themselves. Rather , uneducated delusions to support their ego's.
@@nitram46 mohamPPll EEEGG rusuI is getting destroyed in heII
@@indigatorveritatis7343 no idea what that means !
@@nitram46 yeah you do
@@indigatorveritatis7343 Sorry. Only familiar with English. But please have another go when you pass grade three.
How do they refute this evidence? Simple: Character attack ✔️ "Jay is a liar" 😂 Just like, how to counter book burning? Violence ⚡
Thank goodness there still remains academic men with courage and conviction who dare to tell the truth and damn the consequences.
Social media crushed Quran
Perfect preservation of the Quran ?? Hahahhahahahhhahahhahahahahahahhahaha😅😅😅
Thank you Brothers for bringing this up.. may this save some deluded Muslims...
Satan used Islam to kill so many innocent 😢 souls
Islam is Satan's religion.
So who used Christians?
@@TheAmrthe2nd Christians don’t kill nonbelievers, how many terrors groups represent Christians?
Btw I am neither Christian nor Muslim, but Earth without Islam would be a lot peaceful for humanity.
Muslims either don’t read or pretend not to be aware, it’s in your book just read it and see how violent that book it
@@TheAmrthe2nd The real God, Christians serve him. Islam is from Satan. Violence, intolerance, slavery, horrible treatment of women & a million other evil things. Islam is obviously from Satan.
Yes, like the thousands of innocents who died on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
This is the truth, i pray to God that it would be reveal to them and by them….God Bless
Zealots all have one common trait. To claim the truth for their own. Chances are they are all wrong. (and arrogant)
God is mazing! Jesus said, There's nothing concealed that will not be exposed. Blessed be God in Jesus, His Son.
He also said that John the Baptist was the last prophet. That is why they need to discredit the Bible to keep the illusion that M was a prophet.
I don't understand why the height of the person is of any relevance?
Everything everything about Islam is a big fat dangerous lie! 😂😂😂😂
No islam say hallouf is not good AND the doctors are agree
All religions are lies
Oh my. I just seen that debate for the first time yesterday, February 11, 2024. When he said there had to be Divine Intervention in Quran because of having the exact amount of opposite words. I couldnt help but laugh at that elementary man-made ridiculous example. More than anything I wanted to jump back to 2014 and ask Him if he knew about the Divine Intervention he could see for himself through the Hidden Code and Messages in the True Word of God, Our Holy Bible that have been discovered. Chuck Missler, amazing Teacher and explains the founded code. R.I.H. Chuck! Absolutely mind-blowin. Very obvious which book is the True record of the Word of God
islam can't survive due to the internet.
Internet will die before islam
@@Elazhar-qm2oc Without LIES islam DIES.
Islam is only growing. Your presence is evidence of this.
It’s frustration that the religion that thinks your Christian religion of three gods goes in line with natural inclination.
@@alonzoharris9049 Have you met Jesus?
@@alonzoharris9049
The same way a weed grows --- invasive and destructive
And the musloids say the Bible was corrupted lol.
This is impossible.. Not one word of Allah can be changed..Must be due to Muhammad's illiteracy and spelling mistakes
😂 but he didn’t write anything down!
@@P.H.888 so how did he keep accounts of his camel/slave sales...and he could count but only to 6,as aisha his child bride
@@pigmeatishambacon The question is how old was she when the marriage was consummated
@@townseydroidborleyboy8024 its said she was a 9yr old,but he was having other kinds of sex with her b4 she grew a hair,why does the quran hide this???because they are ashamed...go read about the female body...i am so happy he is roasting in hell and smoking like char coal
@@pigmeatishambacon It is said by who?.Is there any proof of this?
Researchers at the University of Birmingham in Britain have discovered that a manuscript of the Qur’an that has been in the university’s library for about a hundred years may be the oldest copy of the Qur’an ever. The manuscript found in the university library dates back to at least 1,370 years ago.
After examining them using radiocarbon technology, the researchers found that the pages of the manuscript date back to the period between 568 and 645 AD, which is approximately the same period in which the Prophet Muhammad lived, who is believed to have lived between 570 and 632 AD. Based on this, they expected that the manuscript was written during the reign of the Prophet Muhammad or a few years after his death, knowing that the period of Qur’anic revelation lasted between 610 and 632 AD.
David Thomas, professor of Christianity and Islam at the University of Birmingham, said, "The person who wrote this manuscript may have known the Prophet Muhammad," adding, "He may have seen the Messenger. He may have heard him calling for religion. He may also have known him personally."
He added, "The parts of the Qur’an found in this manuscript are identical to the Qur’anic text that people read in the Qur’an today."
A person who recites the Qur'an is Muslim a person who understands tge Qur'an is an ex muslim!!!
You don't know who a MUSLIM IS
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One single sahih Hadith disproves Islåm and Qur'an !!!
Sahih Muslim 2953 a
Anas reported that a person asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as to when the Last Hour would come. He had in his presence a young boy of the Ansar who was called Muhammad. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said:
If this young boy lives, he may not grow very old till the Last Hour coming to you.
وَحَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا يُونُسُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، عَنْ حَمَّادِ بْنِ سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ ثَابِتٍ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، سَأَلَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مَتَى تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ وَعِنْدَهُ غُلاَمٌ مِنَ الأَنْصَارِ يُقَالُ لَهُ مُحَمَّدٌ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " إِنْ يَعِشْ هَذَا الْغُلاَمُ فَعَسَى أَنْ لاَ يُدْرِكَهُ الْهَرَمُ حَتَّى تَقُومَ السَّاعَةُ " .
Reference : Sahih Muslim 2953a
In-book reference : Book 54, Hadith 171
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 41, Hadith 7051
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wow, I am glade I found this site; thank you.
I to want the truth!! Truth seeker.
All you will get is lies😅
My only favorite aya in Qur'an is Sura 19:19. Shabir Ali should read it. Jesus is the only righteous son.
قَالَ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۠ رَسُولُ رَبِّكِ لِأَهَبَ لَكِ غُلَـٰمًۭا زَكِيًّۭا
He responded, “I am only a messenger from your Lord, ˹sent˺ to bless you with a pure son.”
That is the verse "Maryem 19"
So god, the father had sex with god the son's mother, just like Zeus
Which means he’s a prophet
@@tasneembashir2733 Tashneem, do you know what RIGHTEOUS means? It doesn't mean good or nice or smart, it means SINLESS. What human being is SINLESS? Only God is sinless.
Perfect preservation
1984 Style
Alonzo Harris worships three Gods:
1. Allah
2. Isa
3. Miriam
That's called "preventive attack" 😅👍
Brother knew alonzo was gonna see this..
So he's Chritsian
I would actually be interested in seeing what someone like Alonzo has to say in regard to the actual content of this video.
What does a Muslim who believes in the miraculous preservation of the Quran have to say in response to clear photographic evidence of manuscript manipulation?
Unfortunately, we all know that someone like that is incapable of staying on topic.
@@Giant_Meteor
The answer is very simple.
I love your confidence.🥴🤣
Let me break it down for you and spoil your party.🥴🤣
Brubaker has been refuted by Dr Sidki and Dr Altikulac. He has no response for their refutation. They are far bigger names in this field. Brubaker is a Christian apologist and a nobody.🫠
All the examples have earlier manuscripts and correspond with the Quran we have. This Christian apologist hides this from his work. He pretends that those examples have no earlier manuscripts. That’s proven to be false. You can read Sidki and Altikulac.
That’s the first point that debunks his unproven claims.
The second point is that Muslims never claimed to rely on manuscripts in the first place for preservation. It has never been the method of preservation.
That’s why you can’t use textual criticism against Muslims.
It’s Christians that claim that the bible is preserved through manuscripts. All the bibles and reconstruction of the bible rely on manuscripts. It’s Christians that claim preservation through manuscripts.
We use textual criticism against them. It’s called an internal critic.
The Quran is defined as recitation.
We don’t rely on manuscripts written by anonymous people for the Quran.
Jay Smith is misrepresenting the position of Muslims. He is doing a strawman.
This video is another cheap propaganda video from Laurel and Hardy.🥴🤣
19 numerology: a real question would be : does this calculation exist in the Saana text? Were the scribes aware of it at the time they amended the manuscript? Was the numerology transposed on the new versions?
In my India we have a saying:
Musalman, beiman=Muslim is untrustworthy.
TAQUIYYA AND KITMAN are words which describes LEGAL LYING in their books! 2 more such words.
You are a Hindu. They are known for lying and deception.🫠
You worship a cow AND you talk ??
Prince of Jordan tried to revise the Quran. He was vehemently opposed!
Prince of Jordan is a jahil AND english creation .he s not muslim
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Aisha let her goat eat some verses. May be it was intentional.
And the rest they burn it.
Wonderful research on the topic! Even without the knowledge of all this just by reading Quran, you see that it is not a word of God
No ancient text is, of course. These religious texts, if you study them in context, are man-made creations of their time and place. Of course, someone who follows a certain religion wants to think that "their" text is the "word of god".
Another hole 🕳️ in the narrative
You mean the Evil missionaries made another hole in your head😅🤣😂
YOU WILL STAY A IDIOT
............" a mighty man of God " ? who are we to say someone is a man of God ? aren't we all men of God if he created all of us ?
I know that this has nothing to do with the topic, but i just discovered this hadith yesterday about the function of the eyes in islamic tradition compared to what the gospel says on the subject, i find it interesting, I leave it uncommented, just look at the facts and make up your own mind.
Matthew 6:22-23
The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy (implies generous), your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
Sunan Abi Dawud 203
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: The eyes are the leather strap of the anus, so one who sleeps should perform ablution.
Grad: Hasan
😂😅😅🤣🤣😅🤣🤣😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👈🏼
The trinity is three gods.
How many eyes does your god have? Two or six? Does each person have two eyes?🥴
@@alonzoharris9049
How many eyes does that 9-headed butt-dragon, that Muslims believe in, have?
@@alonzoharris9049 3 gods? so you dont understand the trinity lmao, stop regurgitating what your dawahs say.
@@stats4861
How many eyes has the trinity? Two or six?
4000 corrections? and yet this guy only showed a few and did not explain what it meant or suppose to have meant with and without the corrections. This doesnt prove anything.
when truth hurts
New here, why is their height relevant?
Translation to be knowned in Russian. Forecast in time the future ! Chinese the same !
He said " eviscerate THE Quran ."
He admits there is only ONE Quran.
All he has to do now is to read the same Surah from " two different "
copies to prove they are different .
One God. One Quran . One Islam practiced by all the Prophets.
THE PRESERVATION OF THE QURAN IS IN THE RECITATION.
Not paper like the Bible. Take
a Chinese and an African Muslim
and see if they RECITE DIFFERENTLY . This is concrete proof. What you do is cast aspersions. Aspersions are not evidence. In the absence of water, Muslims use sand and stones to clean themselves. You want them to write Quran on stones.
THE WORLD OF THE UNSEEN.
Muslims do not use the world of the UNSEEN to convey the message of Islam or to refute falsehoods.
The black dog , the donkey and a woman PASSING IN FRONT OF A PRAYING PERSON IS THE WORLD OF THE UNSEEN. IN FACT, ANYONE PASSING IN FRONT OF A PERSON NULLIFIES THEIR PRAYER ACCORDING TO THE OTHER BETTER KNOWN SAHIH HADITH.
This is so serious that you are allowed to strike the person passing in front of you . Women pray behind men so the occurrence of this is a rarity. Donkeys and dogs in prayer area ? No. But Islam is for all times and situations .
Muslims do not go into area of UNSEEN to convey information. Muslims will never say that Christians eat human flesh and drink the blood and bathe in the blood of a prophet. Muslims know that human sacrifice., a vile practice of the Pagans, is at the heart of Christian belief but Muslims for not focus on this . Muslims prefer to deal with the belief that Our Lord and Creator has partners and we seek refuge in Allah from this. That God is three when Jesus peace be unto him said that "...the Lord, your God, is One...". The Prophets took pains testify that Our Lord and Creator is One and to accept the Prophets and not philosophers like Paul and Timothy and those who feel that they know better than the Prophets.
Most of what was prescribed for the Jews is in Islam. The Jews have lost their prostration as their scholars have lamented but they still bow halfway and have siyaam or standing. Notice that they all face the wall in Jerusalem .This is not worshipping the wall as they slander about the Muslims and the House in Mecca . This is to avoid facing humans as you pray. Christians and Hindus face their priests and Pastors when they pray .
which koorap, hafs or warsh ?😅
Islam just tried to cover the holes by creating more.
There clearly is a distinction to make between the initial meaning of the coranic text (which was originally christian, though anti-trinitarian) and the meaning that was imposed (and distorted) later (9th and 10th centuries) by the abbassid caliphs (with the creation of the so-called "prophetic tradition" or "sunnah" with a multitude of hadiths, tafsir and siraa inventions).
Their goal was to create a new religion serving their imperial interests of conquest and domination by the sword ... which still persists today
EXM Sahil's Chhanel is Blocked in India.......#UnblockEXMSahil
Y is modi government pandering to muslims
6:12
What do you mean these manuscripts have no verses?
Qadhu (pumpkin) said that Dr. Brubaker has an agenda and I believe Dr. Yasir Qaddu
Yes there is an agenda. Agenda is to examine your claims (mr pumpkin) and see how much of what you are blabbering is actually true 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Apparently the angel Jibril has come again and made such corrections.
I think the problem of the Qira'at and Ahruf is more damaging because it's what the common people (let say 95% of the muslims) understand.
The problem of the Rasm is beyond their understanding and it's more a case for the scholars (sheiks and ulama).
Yes, you are absolutely correct. That is why Hatun is hated so much by the Muslim internet crowd and those who harass her and even try to kill her at Speaker's Corner, while Dr Brubaker has little to no confrontation or threats aimed at him. Yet, his material is indeed much more damaging academically, because it proves that the earliest manuscripts are patent examples of man-made writings, which are then corrected in the centuries that followed, but these ideas are just too difficult for most Muslims to understand, let alone to respond with cojent rebuttals, outside of their simplistic retort: "these are only examples of 'Scribal errors'", etc...
@@pfanderfilmsNo, his work obviously does not prove the manuscripts are "man -made writings". The variations are extremely minor - and the exceptions, not the norm. The standard reading can also be found in multiple other manuscripts, thus we can be sure that the text has not been changed + these corrections were made to correct mere scribal errors.
@@alfiras8604 Hey alfi - Nice to meet you. I think you have an objective problem with the quran. Please read the following and muslims have to get this through their heads as this is the absolute quranic, islamic standard :
The quran was inscribed on tablets before it was oral. Surah 85:21~22 (Nay; but his is a glorious Qur'an, inscribed on a well-guarded Tablet - That is, the writ of the Quran is unchangeable and imperishable. It is inscribed in the guarded tablet of God, which cannot be corrupted in any way. Whatever is written in it has to be fulfilled: even the whole world together cannot avert its fulfillment.
#1 The quran was written (INSCRIBED) on tablets in perfect form WITHOUT qi'rat. It was NOT oral
#2 This CAN NOT BE the uncreated as the tablets are in the 7 heavens and read by jibril (which angels can not do)
#3 How can something that is eternal be guarded?? Can you guard allah?
#4 There are over 100 Different versions of the quran with over 100 Different recitations of the quran. It has been bastardized to death
#5 You CAN NOT have a single change, NOT even a symbol or character.
#6 quran, allah, mahamed are 100% pagan and FALSE.
@@alfiras8604 Hey alfi. Please consider Truth and a beautiful eternal life through Jesus Christ : Leave islam if you are sincere.
Jesus: "Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." Luke 23:34
Muhamed: "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets." bukhar vol 1 #427
Jesus: Had NO slaves. Do to others as you would have them do to you. meaning Love yourself, Love others, and don't enslave others against their will
Muhamed: was a slaver. Owned and sold many slaves, male and female. he said that allah allowed him and his followers to have sex with their female slaves. quran, sura 33:50, 52 23:5 , 70:30
Jesus: Matthew 5:44 "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
muhamed : Killed 800 people including children for not following him
Jesus: was without sin. John 8:46 "Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth why don't you believe me? 2 Corinthians 5:21
Muhamed: was full of sin. Sura 40:55, Sura 48:1-2 . he also prayed for forgiveness of his sins, sahih bukhari volume 9, #482
Jesus: Did not marry of his choice.
muhamed: married a 6 year old and had sex with her at 9. DISGUSTING!
Jesus: Teached purity on the Sermon on the mount
mihamed: had 13 wives and was an adulterer pursuing other men's wives
Jesus: Said God love everyone. (John 3:16)
mahomod: said allah hates those who don't accept islam quran 30:4, 3:32, 22:38
Jesus : Protected women : Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
mehemed: Stoned women for adultery. (muslim 4206)
Jay Smith calmly and systematically has been educating the world on the history and the inaccuracies of the Koran. From the original texts being incorrectly dated to mecca really being Petra to the where the sun sets to wjere sperm comes from....on amd on and on.
Dr.Jay wants to be the tallest. Always obsessed with height of everybody 😂🤣😂
He must have pure blood straight from 60ft Sri Lankan Adam
Hallouf is not good
@@jakeryker546 like islame whants to be the biggest cult
Jay, how can I get in touch with you to attempt to set up an interview ? I can't find any way to reach out to you behind the scenes.
@PfanderFilms Hi Dr, Jay Smith. I was born and raised all my adulthood in the middle east.
I have been watching your videos for 10 years and i learned so much about islam and quran verses that they never taught about them at our schools. I remember your videos were viewed thousands, but after you joined Al Fadi, your viewers get less and less. Why? Because your viewers know you are associating with the wrong person. I remember in one of your videos you asked Al Fadi "You graduated from Al Aqsa University how come you never knew the first mosques were built in the direction of Petra. Mr. Al fadi replied "because we didn't know". How can we trust this guy Al Fadi graduated from the top notch university from the heart of the Rasul Allah?
You may not know that Al Fadi is working on his Doctoral thesis in Islamic Studies and the modern way is to present the work in a video series as a 'publication' of the ideas and concepts being covered.
yes, Dr Jay has covered all these topics before but these are also a 'refresh' of many aspects where new light has been shone or new discoveries have been made.
The other updates from these sessions are the responses from the Muslim world to the growing spread of these revelations. And that is probably the most significant outcome of the tireless work of many scholars like Dr Jay Smith and his students to offer a properly founded Apologetics approach to Islam.
@@brucemills6558
You are funny.🤣
Where does he study?
What is his name? Can you show me one single evidence for his fantasy stories?🤣
Jay Smith and Fadi are both two fake names. That says it all.🤣
@@alonzoharris9049
Are the scientific miracles of the quran fake?
@@kingyeshua89Best response if u don't have a response.
ego et Pater unum sumus
I and the god Jupiter are one.
31sustulerunt lapides Iudaei ut lapidarent eum
The Jews then took up stones to stone him.
32respondit eis Iesus multa opera bona ostendi vobis ex Patre meo propter quod eorum opus me lapidatis
Jesus answered them: Many good works I have shewed you from my god Jupiter. For which of those works do you stone me?
responderunt ei Iudaei de bono opere non lapidamus te sed de blasphemia et quia tu homo cum sis facis te ipsum Deum
The Jews answered him: For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy
He havent even pointed out a single mistake......without understanding what is the mistake.....? Do you they know Arabic.....nor they quoted any verse saying its a mistake ........where as you find people adding words and deleating in the bible .....no 2 bibles are identical as for the quran where all quran all 7 readings weather its morroco or Malaysia or saudi one follows 114 surahs....its infallible .....show me same for the bible
5). The main source transmission of the Quran is not mushaf (manuscript)
Christian Polemicist often questioned the absence of a quranic manuscript from the uthmanic era (7th century) as evidence that the Quran is no longer authentic.
So why the Christian Polemicist ask this silly question, because If we ask them, where is the first century Gospel written by the disciples of Jesus. Nobody can answer that question either.
This question arise because Christian Polemicist realised that Bible is not the word of God, it is written by man and it has undergone many changes. Well..... we quite understand their feeling. Here is a confusion made by jay smith.
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I think Christian Polemicist are envious because the Bible can never claim to be word of God a holy book whose authenticity is preserved like the Quran.... Ha ha ha.
The existence of the early quranic manuscript cannot be used as an indication to measure the authenticity of the quran. The main reason is because the main source transmission of the Quran is not mushaf (manuscript) but by memorization the whole Quran. Quran is in fact the only sacred text that be completely memorized by people. This video shows someone that produces three copies of the Quran from memory (see at 3.00/3.50 min)
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The practice of producing a complete Quranic manuscript, totally from memory, has been practiced for more than 1400 years. Most of the written Quran before the invention of printing machines were derived from memory.
The widely used Quran in The world today was derived, not from written manuscript (mushaf), but from memorized Hafs Recitation that put into written form. This standard Quran printed in Egypt in 1924, and now used by 95 percent of Muslim world including Iran)
6). Uthman Burning of Quranic Manuscript
Christian Polemicists often questions the story of Caliph Usman's order to burn Quranic scattered manuscripts. This isn't strange because even today Muslims still burning I'll-written, I'll-printed, and scattered disorganized Quran manuscripts. They burn it in public every year and nothing wrong with that.
Standardization of the Quran for the first time is important. After the death of the prophet, Abu Bakr, the first Caliph, appointed a committee consists of four prophet scribers who memorized the whole Quran. This committee was ordered to find the scattered Quran from various sources and compile them into a single manuscript, latter called Hafsah Manuscript (named after prophet widow)
Uthman then ordered people to burn all scattered Quranic manuscripts and ordered people to follow the standard Quran written and read in Quraishi dialect (used by the prophet). Caliph Uthman then ordered the committee to make several copies of the Standard Quran and send the copies to every province. Every copy was accompanied with someone who memorize the entire Quran to teach people how to read and memorized the Quran.
As the caliph (head of the state) Uthman has the right to burn scattered Quranic manuscript that does not conform to standard text. The existence of scattered disorganized Quran manuscript will confuse people who read it. standardization is modern way of thinking, Even today everything is standardized. Uthman action was praised by every Muslims throughout the history.
Not all scattered manuscripts were successfully burned, few survived. The Birmingham Quran manuscript is a parchment on which two leaves of an early Quranic manuscript are written, is probably part of scattered manuscript that survive. In 2015 the manuscript, was radiocarbon dated to between 568 and 645 CE.
Since the Uthmanic Quranic standard was completed around 650 CE, the Birmingham parchment was written before Uthmanic standardized the Quran. The writer may have known the prophet personally. Upon closer inspection, these portions is very close to the form of the Qur’an read today, supporting the view that the text has undergone little or no alteration and that it can be dated to a point very close to the time it was believed to be revealed.
7). Dan Brubakers work on Quran Corection prove Quran preservation
Dan Brubaker has done a good job on analysing correction in early Qur'an manuscript. Those correction were made by people who memorized Quran more than thousands years ago. He found the corrected version is very similar to Hafs Quran printed in 1924.
Christians polemicist often misused Dan's finding by circulating a big lie about Quranic manuscript corrections as corruption that the Qur'an is not preserved. But w hen someone asks Brubaker how similar early Qur'an are?
The answer is YES by and large they are very similar.
Watch the answer starting at this time 2:30/15.40.
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In this video and in any other Dan Brubackers on correction in early Qur'an manuscript, you will not find a single word from him indicating there are corruption in the early Qur'an manuscript. Dan Brubackers finding prove that Quran is preserved.
Jay Smith and Al Fadi, tried everything they could to create a false story about the Quran. They repeat the same lie over and over again.
1). Variations in reading the Qoran are facts
The reading variations of the Quran is a fact. Muslims have known this fact for more than 1400 years. Here is a good video about variants of recitation of the Qur'an
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Jay Smith in various lying videos he made said that Muslims do not know that there are various variants of reading the Quran. The difference in reading was only discovered by hattun trash less than 5 years ago by accident. Jay Smith then made a video asking why Muslims hide the various variants of the reading
Muslims have known the difference in these readings since the time of the prophet, even at that time the prophet said that all readings are true, because the Qur'an was revealed in seven ahruf (dialect).
In the authentic hadith of Bukhari Juz. 9 hadith No. 2419 is told about the existence of seven akhruf, Narrated by the famous
Caliph Umar bin Al-Khattab (RA):
“I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said, "I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me." The Prophet (ﷺ) ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah s Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."
2) Seven Ahruf means Many Dialect
The word seven in Seven Ahruf is like seven heaven. Seven ahruf means many dialect. A well known and easy to find an example of ahruf is the subtle difference is the word
in Chapter 2 Verse 183. Here is the video of jay smith, the biggest Christian liar
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In the video they criticize the verses written in Rasm Usman (skeletal text) toamu miskin
اطعم مسكين
The first word اطعم is read and meant the same in all reading, the difference is in how to read the second word مسكين in the reading of
Hafs - Miskeenen - poor person
Warsh - Masakeenen - poor people
Jay Smith cannot answer which one is true and which one is false, because the skeletal text is exactly the same in all quranic manuscript, they are all follow the Usmanic Rasm. Differences arise when some of the same skeletal text is read by people with different dialects.
Muslims have no trouble choosing one of these two options. Because the Prophet said, "The Qur'an was revealed in seven ahruf, so read it in a way that is easier for you".
Based on the commandment, There is a rule that has been in effect since 1400 years ago, you can feed one poor person or Feed many poor people.
If you are rich, you can feed more than one, two or three people
If you are very rich, you can feed all the poor people in your city.
If you are an ordinary person, just feed one person
if you are poor feed yourself.... hahaha
So where are the big theological differences that they always exaggerate. This reading variant only enriches the meaning.... hahaha
Some Kind of Qiraat Also present in English language
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An American and an Englishman will use different expressions when describing the team that is playing
The team is playing -> US English
The team are playing -> UK English
The Quran contains numerous examples similar to the one mentioned above. While the Rasm (skeletal text) remains unchanged, variations in reading and interpretation can lead to different meanings.
3). The Qur'an is Exactly the Same, What Does It Mean?
What is meant by the exact same Qur'an is the Qur'an with the same rasm (skeletal text). Namely Rasm Usmani, ". Native Arabs have no trouble reading the Quran without dots and vowelization. The reading may vary slightly depending on the dialect of the reader.
In the way of reading qira'at, there are two categories, namely Mutawatir and Mashur .
Mutawatir: transmissions that have independent chains of authority so wide that the possibility of error is ruled out and consensus is possible.
Mashur: it's a little less extensive in its transmission, but its spread is still so wide that there's very little chance of an error.
So even though the Rasm of the Quran used throughout the world is the same Rasm Usmani, but the way of reading or qiraat comes from readings approved or known to the prophet.
This reading is transmitted orally and by memory just like the narration of hadith, starting from the prophet to one of the qiraat narrators.
In the Quran qira’ar or reading there are 7 qira'at mutawatir and 3 qira'at mashhur.
Included in the qiraat of Mutawatir are:
Nafi' (d. 169/785)
Ibn Kathir (d. 120/737)
Abu 'Amr ibn al-'Ala' (d. 154/762)
Ibn 'Amir (d. 154/762)
‘Asim (d. 127/744)
Hamza (died 156/772)
al-Kisa'i (d. 189/904)
While what is included in Mashur's qiraat:
Abu Ja'far (d. 130/747)
Ya'qub (d. 205/820)
Khalaf (d. 229/843)
There are also some rare readings that are generally ignored.
Each of the ten reader has two students (transmitters) who transmits the recitation of their reader.
The most widely used recitation of the Qur'an is the recitation of Hafs. Imam Hafs learned it from Imam Asim etc., therefore the chain of reading history of Hafs like this
Imam Hafs bin Suleiman bin al-Mughirah al-Asadi al-Kufi learned from Aasim bin Abi al-Najud al-Kufi al-Tabi'i from Abu ' Abd al-Rahman al-Sulami from Uthman bin Affan, Ali, Ubayy bin Ka'b, and Zaid bin Thabit from the Prophet Muhammad.
So even though the Rasm Quran used throughout the world is the same, namely Rasm Usmani, but the way of reading or qiraat comes from readings approved or known by the Prophet. This reading is conveyed orally and by line of transmission like a hadith, from the prophet to one of the narrators of Qiraat, namely Mutawatir or Mashur.
4) Dots and Vocalization addition
Jay smith lied when he said the native arabs can't read arabic script without dots and vocalizations. Of course it's a lie. Native arabic speakers can read arabic writing without dots and vocalizations. They can read the text and understand the meaning.
What happened was the same as when native Arabs read Arabic newspapers today. Even though the skeletal text (rasm) reads the same, without periods and vowels, most of the words are read exactly the same, but some people in Morocco may read a few words and understand them slightly differently than Arabs who live in Oman.
For native Arabs these dots and vocalizations are not needed. But The absence of dots and vocalizations makes it difficult for people who do not understand Arabic to read the Qur'an. To guide non-Arabs in reading the Qur'an, people added dots and vowels, and these additions occurred about a hundred years after the Qur'an was first written. This addition of follow the similar approach occurred decades earlier for Jewish texts.
By the way, just to clarify; The Sanaa manuscript was written by a STUDENT. So of course there will be wrong and right, even in Surah Al Tawbah it’s written “Do not say bismillah” with is by a teacher
Why is the height relevant?
what is this 5-11 and 5-10 they are talking about?
what time in the video do you refer to?
You've been caught bang to rights ,no getting out of this now .I rest my case my lord.
Am I missing something?
What has a person's height got to do with anything?
Am I the only one who, on quick glance, thought that the research scholar was Jason Statham? 🤷🏽♂️
Quranic studies is one of Jason's hobbies, didn't you know that! He works out by lifting volumes of hadith books.
@@theastronomer5800 ❗ 🤯❗
I dont know if I am blind. "Miliions have watched this debate" but you don provide a link?
Why not told the changes in text..befor correction and after it..to understand the meaning
Y is it so hard for us human to accept that religion is the creation of human.
If these are ayats, read so that we hear what recitations have changed. Confusion.
Changes in Al Quran have been made by Islamic Scholars by putting words in brackets, while translating and also changed meaning of many words as compared to original Aiyats written in Arabic Quran ( in He jaji Or kufi Arabic language )