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Dwyane Wade obviously had a better career than Paul Pierce - Stephen A. | First Take
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- Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman give their takes on Paul Pierce declaring he had a better NBA career than Dwyane Wade. While Max says this discussion is certainly debatable, Stephen A. begs to differ and claims Pierce's career "doesn't compare" to Wade's.
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We gotta admit though that Pierce was extremely underrated in his prime and was one of the clutchest players of his generation. But D-Wade is clearly better.
Pierce was never at any point of his career top 10 in the NBA. He came in when PF's were dominating. Then watched the influx of the sf movement. Sprinkle in some guards and he might not even of ever been top 15. Wade was the best player in the league from 2006-2009 along with Kobe. 2010-? Brons time
It's funny bc to me PP is overrated, but hey everyone has their opinion
I wouldn't say underrated. I would say overlooked because the Media was busy jock riding the Michael Jordan of his generation, Kobe Bryant
@@rods7028 dude what? Kobe got no love from the media. Wth? More like riding brony already.
@George Harry the career discussion might be closer, but at their pinnacles, they're in different stratospheres.
I'm gonna have to go with D.Wade as the better player but let it be known that P. Pierce ain't no scrub
Everybody knows Pierce was hella good but the dude actually thinks he's Jordan so that's why everybody's hating on him
Of course he ain’t a scrub anybody in the nba is not a scrub everyone is good at basketball in general
Devin Brinkley We all know that. But you can argue Paul Pierce wasn’t the best player on that Celtics team too.(KG won DPOY while playing for Boston, made all nba 1st team which Paul never did, and was a perennial all-defense while playing for Boston).
Pierce was much better
Before the 07-08 season never heard of her aka pp
Who is better? MJ or Lebron?
Paul: That's easy. Me.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol🤦♂️🤣😂
lol so true
Honestly more people should answer that way.
Pierce: I'll put Kobe ahead of Lebron... Then there is Jordan.... and yeh... that's me....
Paul Pierce : “if I had the Thor’s axe, I would’ve stopped thanos’s snap”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Never predicted that paul pierce would be a meme after retiring.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
From legend to meme
zenmar84 he was a meme the second he faked an injury
He did it to himself
*Funny thing is they both agree that Wade was the best player and had the best career. But they still argue somehow*
Stunna P *I agree, but why do you talk like this?*
That’s their job
Heck of a life
Crazy
Thats usually the show
Paul Pierce: If I had Jiren on my team like Kobe had shaq or wade had Lebron we would swept the the warriors and won the tournament of power
Love this lol
That’s facts tho
Viral Sye if I had zeno and blue Gogeta I would have had all the seven dragon balls
This Fuckin guy 😂
Viral Sye bruh 🤣🤣🤣
Dwade is a top 3 SG all time, but I will admit Pierce is underrated
Jeffrey Xu jerry west?
@@dubmjoe5213 nah
I mean top 5 yes but it’d be MJ, Kobe, Jerry West, AI, DWade, Clyde, that’s top 6 for me
Dumb Joe you crazy if you think jerry west was better than d wade clyde drexler is not d wade either
Player One bro u probably never watched jerry west. Averaged 27,7,6
Paul Pierce: if I had 3 dragons I would have conquered all of westeros including dorne.
Maybe also Essos
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Thes got me.more hyped
ahahaha
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even when they agree, they argue. wtf is this lmao
james immanuel that’s what the entire show is about
@@yazanismail3028 I know, but damn these guys have no chill lol
if there isn't a controversy then there wouldn't be a show. it would be silly to think that all the positions they take are positions they actually believe. the personalities on the show aren't real people they're characters.
That's modern media for you right there
That’s television. Even if they don’t believe it they have to oppose.
I’ve never seen two people agree so aggresively towards each other
Wade was top 5 player for 10years... Paul Pierce top 10 player for 5years
Naw Paul was 😂 never top 10
@@TheNyion912 fax, d wade was also not top 5 10 times
Wade was a top 5 player for about 7 years
@@afrojacker9 Dwyane Wade was always top 5 From 2004 to 2014.
Lebron, Kobe, and Tim duncan were the only people close to Wade. The best players in the modern NBA weren't evolved yet, likely because Steve Kerr wasn't coaching the warriors at that time.
@@sorrowfgc in 2004 and stuff, Kevin garnet, dirk. Also in the early 2010s Kevin Durant. U also stupid for not sayin Steve Nash.
Nobody:
Paul Pierce: "I'm actually the GOAT, because If I played with Bill Russell, I'd have 11 championships as well"
SedaW LoL 😂
SedaW LoL that is basically what he said thou😂😂😂😭
Lol. I mean, give LeBron in his prime to any person, you don't think that'll give them a chance to win a few more chips?
Not saying I agree with Pierce 100%, but he does have a point.
Can i ask a question, whats the point of putting
"Nobody: "
I see it on Instagram I just never understood it, maybe im getting old
Red Rambo: It means that what the person said came out of nowhere, like nobody said anything and he just came out and said that.
People forget to mention that Wade defense was crucial to Miam’s success
So was Pierce's. His defense on Kobe was amazing in 08 finals. He was one of the few stars in the NBA that could match up against Kobe.
@@UndeadItachi2 pierce defense was significant but they system bostom had against kobe was smart and efficient pierce can't match up against kobe but his body changes kobe trajectory and falls into boston trap but without defensive system boston had kobe would have done work on pierce like eveybody eles
@@joshcurtis7601 big fax
No it wasn’t lol wade was barely playing and it was Shane battier that was a dog on defense smh don’t disrespect Shane
@@yaboycoconuthead7012 Barely playing? Lmao stfu
D-wade this ain't no debate, Wade is a better player full stop drop the mic!!!!
King supreme woo Don’t disrespect The Truth
@@jordan12118 Don't disrespect The Flash
@@jordan12118 Overrated, never won a chip by himself
@@chilldoc9638 to be fair no one can single handily win a championship
@@TimelineBeats Except wade won with Shaq who averaged 13-10 in the finals, while Wade averaged 34, Pierce was a top 15 player in his time, wade was top 5
Are we forgetting wade had like 7 healthy years and is still top 5
For real.
Paul Pierce: "if I had ketchup and mustard, I could finally eat this hot dog"
bruhh LMAO!!!!
Damn lol🤣😂🤣😂
😂😂😂
Sum Solution bro yourube comments fire
Sum Solution lol🤣🤣
Stephen J Smith always with the not giving af face while max talks lol
@SAV BandR he was just tryna put sum respect on pp name... Stephen a ack like pp was Antoine Walker or sumtn lol
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It makes the show weird , there supposed to debating but sas face makes max seem like he’s talking to him self
Joe Joe yo those were my exact thoughts when he said that , i didn’t comment it because people defense would be Pierce actually played in the nba. The lavar hate is real tho !!!
WHO df is Stephen J Smith?
2011 wade had a good finals against Mavericks not just the 2006 one
Yup! And LeBron chocked
Refs didn't help as much. Couldn't deny Dirk anymore.
@@melanatedgod5337 LeBron just didn't show up
He had a great finals. If LeBron had showed up just a little they would have won with Wade averaging 26 points
@@melanatedgod5337 it's not the refs - it's Dallas overall. Dirk in 06 was horrible, shot just 39% from the field and only 25% on 3's how are you supposed to win a championship when your best player shoots like that. Dirk in 2011 is now 42% from the field (which is still kinda bad) but was hitting 37% on 3's. In addition, they don't have a perimeter defender and shot blocker back in 06. In 2011 they had Chandler, Marion, and Kidd who were great defenders. Dirk improved, teammates can defend, Dallas now won the championship and they deserve that.
Wade still balled out tho - lead both teams in points, steals, and BLOCKS while shooting 55%. Also added 7 rebs and 5 assists per game
Paul Pierce really did lose a bunch of productive seasons because he didn't play with good players.
exactly, like I get how he got KG and Ray in his mid 30s but all pierce is saying, is that he would have a Dwade like career if he had the players he had. Still gotta go with wade but I see pierce's point.
armin38822 facts
Pierce had to carry some really shitty Celtics teams on his back before KG and Allen showed up at the back end of his career. Wade got Shaq when he was still a beast and Lebron, who happened to be the best player in the NBA for 4 years in Miami. Wade's career was extended by playing with All Time greats. Paul Pierce has a legit point.
swiftslick wade also had to carry very shitty teams in his prime tho you seem to forget.
@@julianowilliams3263 -- Nope. You seem to think Wade didn't play with Lamar Odom, Eddie Jones, Shaquille O'Neal (age 32, 33, 34, 35), Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton, Jason Williams, Antoine Walker, Lebron James, Jermaine O'Neal, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Luol Deng, Goran Dragic. While Pierce HAD Walker, Al Jefferson, Vin Baker, Wally Szczerbiak, Ricky Davis, Kenny Anderson, KG, Ray Allen, and 38 Year Old Shaq. Dwayne Wade had much more help than Pierce did from his first minute in the league. Don't even try to claim otherwise.
I thought we already ended this conversation .. Paul Pierce is delusional if he thinks he had a better career than D Wade 😂
He's just trying to steal DWade's thunder at the end of DWade's career
This question was does he have a case not if hes better
Jhace Buckley he doesn’t have a case lol he was a great player though
Agreed!!!!!
Jan-Michael Vincent sound dumb give Paul pierce wades teammates and he’s getting more then 3 rings for sure
Paul Pierce is extremely underrated but Dwade is just better
Paul Pierce was cold. It’s disrespectful how he gets treated. I think he got wade in certain aspects
ItsObsession NotTalent i hated how nba twitter just roasted him like wtf. PP is the truth and i think he is more clutch than wade. He is called the truth for a reason, it's just unfair that the newer nba fans thinks he is a bum.
Bill Baltes A clutch bucket and the ball is in his hands. When I hoop I say pierce or arenas. These young kids don’t kno. How harden does stepbacks to his dominant side, pierce did that. And that’s no lie. Take pierce last 4 seasons away and compare em to wade
Paul Pierce a better player. D Wade had a better career
ItsObsession NotTalent yeah i remembered those times when the stepback j was called the paul pierce stepback. Like goddamn kids these days won't know the truth
Seriously, the best player Pierce played with in his prime is Antoine Walker.... who else do you remember?
Nobody?
Ray allen kevin garnett rajon rondo
And D Wade won a championship with a bunch of out of their prime players
ScottieGang223-- They arrived after his prime had passed and were not the equivalent of Shaq or LeBron.
swiftslick KG and Ray Allen weren’t equivalent to Heat Shaq???
Wade is so overlooked it’s absurd. Until LeBron led all players in every major category in the Finals a few years ago, Wade’s 2006 Finals performance was considered the greatest ever according to ESPN.
Wade clearly had a better career, but Max has a point about people like Gabrielle Union taking it so personally
lassseerrr yah but the way she was speaking it was kind of changing the context of PP argument which had people attacking his character and other personal things which were out of line.
Its her Husband what you expect idiot
@@ILLWill1027 doesnt matter if a Woman loves u and they talk shit about You She gonna go off on everything lol thats how females work
Dats a paddlin Exactly
Bc pierce said it in a way to diminish Wade's career. Basically saying he wouldn't have had any of his accolades without his team. Basically mad his big 4 couldn't beat Wade's big 3
Paul Pierce didn't even have a better career than Kevin Garnett
Exactly
Mr Long exactly!!!!!!
shit I'll say Ray Allen had a better career than Paul
Mr Long or Ray Allen.
Mr Long you making it seem like KG is not one of the best to do it! And he came right outta high school and a defensive monster!
People really be sleeping on D. Wade
Lmao when Max said Gabrielle Union everyone was like 👀
Lmbo!!!
I really laughed when Stephen A. said, "So what you gon say Dwayne Wade's son attacked him too?" SMH Max K. haha
😂😂😂😂😂
She olddd
Im proud of Molly, she didnt speak til the very end and beginning 👏
Ikr
that's her job .. she speaks at the beginning and at the end .. they just bring a good looking chick that talks two words to get the views up .. because half of the male population is prohibited from having a girl in their life, either they're sore losers or loners .. so they do enjoy a hot female presenting and start salivating
@@cccp9661 gotta get a pornstar in they're good actors and are hot lol
😂🤦🏽♂️
That’s how it should be with women who are on sports show. Women shouldn’t talk at all. Lol I’m going to get a lot of hate for this 😅
See what happens when you don’t say April Fools 🤦🏽♂️
Jose Ramirez you right 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jose Ramirez lol nice
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Paul pierce was an elite player till he started comparing himself to Wade 🤣🤣🤣 lost alot of points with that
Trigger Capone you can’t compare 2 players who play different positions
@@crawfish19 shit if Paul can why can't I, he fucced up, no one made the comparison till he opened his mouth 😂
@@triggercapone202 lol Exactly 😂🤣🤣
"Give me Shaq when he was that good. Give me LeBron and Bosh when they were that good." What????? He had KG and Ray Allen....
Let’s be honest tho . Is ray Allen as good d wade ? Is a Celtics kg better then shaq? . Paul pierce has a point. Still not better then wade lol but he has a point
@@josephbarnes63 Shaq was not in his prime at all. He already had 14 seasons under him. Don't forget that either . Granted KG was old too.
They were old when they got together and still dominated for 3 seasons
right!!!! and let’s not forget play off rondo who scored over 40 points in one of the finals 2010. can’t believe pierce dismissed his phenomenal teammates and not admitting that he was in a super team himself
Shaq Averaged 13 points and 10 rebounds in the 2006 NBA finals, Dwade avreged 34+, Shaq was a role player in 2006
Wade is better, but you look at those stats and realize how underrated Paul was. It's actually crazy how underrated he is.
No. Wade is greater and it’s not close. Pierce only has 1 all-NBA selection to Wade’s 7. Wade may have played with Shaq but it wasn’t prime Shaq. Are we gonna ignore the fact that Garnett was near that level?!
The truth overrates himself so i think its balanced.
@@micahpg3407 No Pierce has made All-NBA 4 times to Wade's 8. Wade's better but no need to falsely exaggerate by how much cause it's closer than people want to admit.
@@micahpg3407 he has 4 all NBA seasons
Stats are for people who weren't there.
Individual player Stats don't tell the whole story.
Paul Pierce was an amazing player. He was a beast in his prime and an easy HOF. With that being said, I’d take Wade any day.
garland Bruh, she looks like a kid. 🤦🏽♂️
JR The GOAT Smith it’s an old pic but I take it as a compliment that I look young
garland aren’t you a Casanova 🙄😒
Mia Dowd My bad 😂. And yes, I thought you looked younger than 18.
A black girl name Mia ?
Paul Pierce Dwyane Wade
26,397 Points. 23,165 Points
4,708 Assists. 5,701 Assists
1,752 Steals. 1,620 Steals.
745 Blocks. 885 Blocks.
I love Max's ability to hold a straight face when Stephen A is talking
When Stephen A Smith quiet you know he about to end a mans career😂
02 lmao facts 😂😂😂
More like he is still on loading mode lol😂😂😂😆😆😆
He's the most disrespectful guy on TV. Who sits there like a little kid crossing his arms n shit
Only to the collectives.
Bale Gareth somebody got their panties in a bunch
Wow props to Max for being man enough to call out Gabrielle Union 👍🏻
Someone should. It was not that deep
On god
Well that is her husband dumbasses ofc she’s going to defend him simple minded ass niggas I swear
Max is a genius.
Facts. She outa pocket
“Not 2, not 3, not 4
No it was 2” Max Kellerman
Wade didn't say that
The real reason why people are bashing my boy Pierce is because: 1. People didn't watch the Celtics in the early 2000's when Pierce was on his prime and straight up ballin' with Antoine Walker, way before Wade was in the NBA. 2. Pierce wasn't the most athletic player, he was slow but consistently great for more than 15 years and some people don't pay attention to that because in comparison, Wade was faster and flashy and people like that. 3. Pierce won his championship when his was almost old, with the help of KG, Allen, Rondo and that badass 08' Celtics team. Wade always had good players around him to help him win championships and people don't see nor admit that.
The 06 heat team was not that good
@@michaelhaddad4163 You're crazy for saying that. How, in any instance, can an NBA championship team, I don't care what year is, be "not that good?" Stop smoking. How can a collection of 15 of the best players in the world who won a championship over 30 other teams that have 15 of the absolute best players in the world be "not that good?" I don't think you thought that comment out.
RichTV I’m with you I’d take pierce over Wade but that 06 heat team was the weakest title winner of the 2000s
Pierce was an incredible player but Dwade was on another level
Defense yeah but offense wise Paul pierce more skilled
@@thekiddsean33026 that's your opinion and I respect your opinion but I disagreed
Russel Keith 💯💯
thekiddsean330 paul pierce only shot the 3 better so how was he more skilled. You guys say anything smh
@@wesmillz Then you didn't watch them play. Wade's game revolved around attacking the basket.
Pierce could get you from anywhere on the court. In terms of shooting the basket, Pierce always eclipsed Wade.
SAS lack of respect for Max is getting on mynerves.
This dude couldn't predict the winner of the nba finals until Durant joined the warriors, but acts like is knows basketball better than anybody.
Mixamaka Stephen A constantly disrespect Max like he’s always right and knows everything about basketball
jaydexe nah it’s like saying who had a better career ai or defrozen.
Me too man SAS lack of respect for Max is disgusting. I really wonder why he doesn't like the guy and Max is a really cool guy I don't get it.......
Agreed, Undisputed is more fun. SAS is a pompous prick!
No when you say dumb things and add dumb things to the mix your respect goes out the window. The question was who had a better career overall not who had the better players in their career you dumb ass bitches damn that shit is annoying asf
Wade didn't have the best Finals performance since Jordan. He had the best Finals performance of all time.
Paul Pierce:I'm better than wade.
Max: He's just joking around.
Lebron: I "felt like" a goat.
Everybody: FREAK OUT.
Pippen: I can beat Lebron 1 on1.
so true
“That’s when I knew I was the greatest of all time” Lebron James
Paul Pierce was a dog in his days but u really think he’s better than Dwyane Wade like come on nah😂😂🤦🏾♂️
Trini?
Paul high a.f pay homage to d wade he that n8gga
I am a huge Boston fan but Paul pierce is not even close to Dwyane wade
Paul pierce better if lebron never came to Miami he wouldn’t have smell a ring quit disprespecting the truth nigga
Wade was dealing wirh injuries late in his career so i think they both equal. But imma lean on dwade
Wade is better but Pierce is underrated especially those early 2000s years
Pierce’s point is arguable
His logic isn’t
Paul Pierce is the GOAT. He even said so.
5:50 I'm done talking to you, I'll listen but I'm not talking to you
6:00 THAT'S NONSENSE
bro look at stephen a face when max talking😂😂
😆😆😆😆☠️☠️☠️☠️😆😆
Im Done 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️
Stephen A face at beginning of this says it all 😂😂
1:23 when the teacher asks you a question in class and you pretend you can’t hear him/her
Saying Paul Pierce is better than D Wade is like saying Neymar is better than Ronaldinho 🤦♂️
Not even close to the same thing. Neymar is still playing and has the potential to be better and have a better career
@Ishmael Tv Remind me who has a higher net worth and by how much
@Ishmael Tv lol kids like you need to understand business. This isn't a fifa video game. The better you are for longer the more you make and longevity goes a long way. Plus look at the stats head to head. Use split screen or look one up on your tablet and one on your phone. In my day we would research before claiming something. I've seen both these young men grow up and let me tell you Neymar is the more valuable player
topflight408 u got a point
Oh hell naw this is basketball do not bring soccer into a basketball comment section
Pierce still mad cause Draymond was like "You thought you was on a farewell tour? You thought they was goin show you love? You aint Kobe .... They don't love you"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂
Sounds like something Thanos would lol
Lol 😂
That hurt my feelings like dddaaaannnmmmm lol
All you idiot's sound like you started watching the NBA in 2008.
Somebody needs to give Paul Pierce a hug and just tell him that he is loved.
Stephen A's face when Max is talking is priceless 😂😂😂
Every show these two:
That’s not what I’m arguing , what IM SAYING is...
Lol basically
Haha so true.
6:59 Stephen A. Smith just walked out. It was insane because then a gunman came and shot up the place. Shit's crazyyyy...
Wade beats pierce in ever category, except rebounding and 3 point percentage LMAO.
Peirce is 15th all time scoring and dwade is like 23rd all time so more than just those 2 stats my friend.
Riley Haley he’s played 19 seasons. If he can’t beat him in scoring while playing more seasons, he ass
Riley Haley yea because Pierce played 3 more seasons plus Wade was injury prone if wade stayed healthy he would be around 27K pierce never ever even averaged 27ppg Wade did that shit 4 times lmao
He was also a better shooter overall
@@osoarrogant9785 lol lets not count durability its not like its important or anything.
Stephen A. routinely makes that "I can't believe this guy" face dealing with Max.
The truth just stating the facts, if he had prime time shaq , LeBron as teammates he surely able to grab a couple more championships.
Imagine Wade on the Celtics with KG and Ray Allen instead of Pierce. That team would have won more than one championship for sure.
@@toteispoe4 I doubt it. Put Pierce to Wade's heat and put Wade to Pierce's Celtics. Miami is clearly the better team. Wade had a better career, but if we're comparing both, it's not that far like you guys make it seem.
Maybe. But Allen and Wade mix is not ideal if you want both guys playing at the same time.
@@kroobsie4663 Yah. But Pierce to heat is not also a good combo. Pierce may have to seat when Bron is heating and force to play PF or Center. And his play style doesn't correlate to his postion. I have doubts of this arguement.
Wade didn't have prime time Shaq. Wade averaged 35ppg in the 2006 finals while Shaq averaged 13. What ifs don't matter anyway when we're talking about what actually happened. The reality of the situation is Wade was the better player. He was a way better defender and has more INDIVIDUAL accolades than Pierce.
Nobody is taking away on how great paul pierce was but D wade was better.
Paul Pierce and Michael Redd are similarities. Nobody gave a shit about them throughout their career.
Dwyane Wade. 2006 NBA Finals. That was something beautiful to watch.
Facts
People keep hating because it was controversial, but wade was a beast
LeftVideos nothing controversial about it they couldn’t guard him because he attacked the rim like a fucking animal
Paul Pierce 2008 NBA Finals something beautiful not saying he better but give his due
Coudln't win that one without Shaq.
Paul Pierce is an amazing player but Dwyane Wade would not only just a great player but he was the guy
Why are they arguing while they are making the same point
Ratings....Captialism
Why Stephen A be having that look on his face every time, max talking 😂😂
No respect.
Whose better Paul pierce or TMac.?
I think it’s definitely TMac
Healthy prime TMac would torch Paul Pierce
Tmac was a better player but PP had a longer run
Better player tmac better career Paul also tmac is better than dwade
@@OGGOAT23 He wasn't torching Pierce... Pierce would score 30-40 consistently against Lebron...and maybe is his biggest rival ever.
T Mac
pierce had garnett, ray allen, and rondo. i don’t like how we’re dismissing them and not say that pierce was not in a super team himself
Yap they did not win the chip 2nd time two. They are still a super team. Dont tell me they are not in their prime on their second year as celtics. Duncan ginobli and parker won when they are not in their prime. Lol. And dont argue leonard was there. They have rondo lol.
Stephen A's face though 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
MAX DRUNK! It’s not close! You can’t start a debate with “IF.. I had”
Lol people seem to do it all the time for LeBron
why not lol
@@jagibbs1847
There is no "if" argument with Lebron because he had his superteam in Miami and choked against the Mavs and Spurs.
No one to blame but himself for not having atleast 5 rings right now.
Very close... look at stats
KingSupreme It’s not, he doesn’t have the same about of chips. All nba selections. Paul was good. But he’s not Dwade.
Shaq averaged like 15 and 8 in the 2006 finals. Don’t act like Wade didn’t carry.
Pierce’s career is great, it’s no where near as great as Wades was. Same goes for the level of individual play.
DwadeFL4SHMV3 *13 ppg. Walker was the second leading scorer...with 13 lmao
Thank you! I keep telling people Wade carries them in that finals but you can’t tell ignorant ass fans shit.
Shaq will tell u himself and iv heard him say that dwade carried him that finals. Wade also should have 2009 season mvp
What if there was a college bball player that was a lottery pick, but decided to stayed 3 years an won 2 back to back National Championships. Barring no injuries, how long do you think it would take before he's an All Star when drafted?
ESPN so bored right now they are covering their own staffs opinions
D-Wade was once in a generation player. There are so many players nowadays that play and look like Pierce. Very few if not any players like and play like Wade today.
This might be max worst argument in this shows history 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️👎
Nah u just ain't listening
Nah you’re just bias
He obviously knows wade is better but has to provide some kind of argument for Stephen A to counter or else they don’t have a show.
D Wade: 3 rings 🏆🏆🏆
Paul Pierce: 1 ring 🏆
Robert Horry: 7 rings
Michael Jordan: 6 rings
Does that make Horry better or are there other factors at play?
No I'm talking about their experiences in the finals clearly if you have more rings then another player you have more experience in the NBA finals then that other player
Or should I say more experience with winning the finals but c'mon we comparing MJ to Horry? No disrespect to Horry but c'mon
“Give me Lebron and bosh” ? Dawg you had garnett and Allen and beat Kobe in a finals. Sit down bro. End of the day it’s obvious pierce think he’s he’s better because he can hit a 3 but the truth is he could NEVER take over a game like Dwyane wade. Wade was jordanesque in his prime.
@Andrew Tso thank you
You just said Paul couldn’t take over a game? And that Wade was jordanesqe? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ these are two of my top 5 favorite players ever and you are clearly ignorant and shouldn’t speak.
JJ Edwards you don’t understand English my friend. I said pierce couldn’t take over a game LIKE wade. And yes wade was jordanesque in his prime
Andrew Tso But fam still, ray Allen who was older when he went to Miami saved them 😭 besides Dwyane wade won 1 ring without help, Paul won it with a big 3 and only won 1. Dwyane wade had a Shaq who averaged 12 points
@@quavii542 12 points in the finals, not through out the playoffs.
Dwade family took it to personally. Max has a valid point
What exactly did she say that was so bad? Can someone enlighten me because the reactions I'm seeing make it see like she wished death upon Paul Pierce.
Altair she said she can’t believe a black man is degrading another black man and basically calling his crabs in a barbell mentality and all kinds of other irrelevant shit
They are arguing over something they agree on. Thanks SAS 🤣🤣
“I kinda loved that about him even though it’s slightly delusional” hahaha 😂
But clearly Max didn’t read properly Pierce’s tweet about the “career”, he’s not even listening to Stephen A. 🤣
It would be incredible to see prime time LeBron, Bosh and Pierce play together. James could drive as much as he wanted and those two would spread the floor perfectly.
I never really liked Paul Pierce, but I really loved his game. Incredibly clutch, especially on 3 pointers, doing what he had to do.
You can't dislike Wade, but we all know how hard it was for him and LBJ to play at the same time.
So if it was Pierce instead of Wade, I think they *might* win more than 2 chips.
People keep twisting it. Its who had a better CAREER, not player. All the facts show it's Wade....
Wade was a better player too lol
Lmfao you're an idiot wade had both a better career and he is a much better player fuckin dummy
Ill take top 15 in points all time in nba anyday.
Player or career it’s d wade by a lot
Wtf? If we're talking better players then it's even more lopsided. Paul Pierce was a phenomenal player but no, he was not better than D Wade. It's really not close
The 2006 final D-wade won against Dallas alone makes him better than Paul Pierce. What Wade did in 06 in the finals, very few players can accomplish.
He had Shaq
@MrGriff305 Actually he had 13.67, but any help is good. He wasn't completely alone. But I think Wade is better anyway
@@ninanapier7490 Antoine Walker was 2nd leading scorer for heat lol
who was also in his PRIME when he played with Paul Pierce😂
The REFS won that series
Yall forget REFS SCREW DALLAS? WADE WEMT to the line on phantom calls.
Man they're just recycling old debates
Max has much better takes than Skip but I still find myself missing Stephen A n Skip together
Max taking argumentative body blows
Max’s coach: For the love of god TAP OUT
PP...really...DWADE is not only a Super Star but Super Human too, so humble and respectful. PP needs to wake up.
DWade is the true GOAT, Prime Jordan wouldn't even be able to match up with him
look at stephen A face at the beginning lmaooo he said max stay offf the weeeedd
im loving the paul pierce better memes lol keep it coming everyone
ESPN probably told him to say that because they got nothing to talk about anymore.
Paul Pierce needs to shut up as he talks a load of nonsense about Dwyane Wade.
@@jpRAP Heat fan here and I agree with you.
@@younglove3362 celtic fan here.... i agree with both of you lol
Lanre Akerele shut up you biased, brain dead heat fan. paul pierce is the most underrated player of all time and dwyane wade is one of the most overrated ever
Here comes the war. Dwyane Wade has had more rings than Pierce which was 3. Paul Pierce Stupidity makes every of his fan look stupid like you Wade haters.
Boston Nation haha Dwade is way better than Pierce. Did Paul Pierce ever make an All Defensive Team? No did he ever Average 30 a game? No Paul Pierce was lucky to win 1 ring.
D ' Wade Had A MVP Season On
2008 - 2009 And Got Stolen.
Had better stats than LeBron
facts bruh
Big facts homie
Leland Joseph ???
@The Enigma lebron team wasn't much better that year
Why is this even a conversation? This just wasting breath, everybody knows the answer
@Loc T Nope, meant "answer". Seems like out of all the many people that read this, its your dumbass that needed explaining even though you still knew what I meant. So let me guess not many things in life (besides correcting people) to make you feel good about yourself?
No Zion nor LeBron so ESPN has to find another topic
@@micahmaggio6431 I think it was a joke bro
@Hudeifi Abdihakin Tell me whose the real dumbass? The guy who calls someone a dumbass for a misunderstanding when it was typed out so I could t see or hear the context it was put in. Or the person who just misunderstood a fucking comment? Plus if he actually wanted to put it in the context of a pun, it would've been like, "the truth" to make it more clear. So how can you blame someone when there are many people doing that correcting shit on the internet?
@@Pirantsable very true
At least they not talking about Lebron and the Lakers
Ahahahahahah
LeBron James is on the bench again SMH
yea bro at last
why does stephen always do the headshake at the start like hes going into a boxing match
These two are like Jordan and Pippen. SAS and Max should have a podcast together.
Finally someone mention it. Hahaha
You know a show is bad when the conversation revolves around semantics.
A player think they are the best??? I don’t agree with him but I don’t see the problem
Exactly what else is he supposed to say?
Exactly lmao
Stephen A face every video he make a face expression when max trying to bring up other stuff😂😂
Man ya'll sleeping on Paul Pierce... Shaq called him for the Truth for a reason... He wasn't a scrub.. Clutch as hell! Under rated as fuck
Lavar being good at basketball is more believable than Paul being better than Wade
Allen Baerry he was still good he went D1