White Dwarf Issue 50 (1984) - Codex Compliant

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  • @iandoddsblah
    @iandoddsblah Рік тому +171

    Immediate day improvement with a bit of Snipe and Wib!😊

    • @dak4303
      @dak4303 Рік тому +4

      I’m always happy to see a new episode

  • @vaniellys
    @vaniellys Рік тому +67

    "A few small formalities" reminds me lot of the "House of Madness" from The 12 tasks of Asterix, that's just bureaucratic hell. It's even referenced in The Witcher 3.

    • @plastefuchs666
      @plastefuchs666 Рік тому +12

      I am sorry, but did you properly fill out Form 36 Sub-Section C to talk about in public about that?

    • @sofija1996
      @sofija1996 Рік тому +11

      Side note, but "Twelve Tasks of Asterix" (and animated/live-action Asterix movies in general) is a cult classic for Polish millennials (and maybe some older zoomers, depending on where you draw the millennial-Gen Z line), so no wonder it made its way to The Witcher games ;)

    • @vincentmuyo
      @vincentmuyo Рік тому +2

      Asterix was huge in Europe, so not surprising. :)

  • @TurbosTantrums
    @TurbosTantrums Рік тому +5

    My parents are from the Suffolk coast and we used to visit Walberswick around the time this was written. It was a pretty tiny place with a load of wooden bridges across little streams in the marshy but where the River Dunwich meets the Blyth and the sea. You could tie a bit of bacon fat to a string and dip it in the water and catch crabs (snerk).
    Nowadays it's a massively fashionable place where a lean-to shed goes for six figures as an "artist's studio", nobody actually lives there because it's entirely second homes, and they have to set up a contraflow queuing system on the main road just to get in.

  • @joeyoung431
    @joeyoung431 Рік тому +54

    I got into tabletop gaming in the late '80s, a few years after this was published, and the whole "chainmail cheesecake" thing was a massive, quite intense debate in the fandom and beyond. I once had an issue of Dragon Magazine (#106 for reference) confiscated at school because of the cover art; the teacher only agreed to return it when I pointed out it was a library copy.
    Could we also please acknowledge the fortitude of Snipe and Wib for getting this out? I don't know when it was made but I'm aware Snipe's health issues haven't been resolved yet and I salute both of them for offering content this good at what must be a trying time for them both.
    Also I'd be keen to look at every 50th issue of White Dwarf in this context - though I don't believe they've done the 40K Compendium or Ere We Go yet.

  • @HARLANDfigueroaZ
    @HARLANDfigueroaZ Рік тому +38

    It needs to be mentioned. The gnarly cover is a reference to the early pre lovecraft fantasy/cosmic horror novel House on the Borderlands

    • @nerag7459
      @nerag7459 Рік тому +2

      "Its beginning to look a lot like pig men, everywhere I go..."

    • @LizardWizardoAo
      @LizardWizardoAo Рік тому +1

      had to do a double take seeing the cover being just straight up house on the borderlands

    • @baalrog887
      @baalrog887 Місяць тому

      Huh so that's where it comes from... I know it as the cover of a heavy metal compilation album from 1985 called "Hell Comes To Your House"

    • @HARLANDfigueroaZ
      @HARLANDfigueroaZ Місяць тому +1

      @@baalrog887 yeah it was in one of the book prints and is super rad and iconic

  • @quercus2949
    @quercus2949 Рік тому +40

    Garth Nix is an amazing author, would highly recommend his Old Kingdom series, very inventive and dark.

    • @themodelrailwayman5470
      @themodelrailwayman5470 Рік тому +5

      I was wondering if this was the same Garth Nix, absolutely love his work!
      Edit: Ah, i hadnt seen the minute or so further forward in the video where this is mentioned xD

  • @Raatcharch
    @Raatcharch Рік тому +58

    I quite enjoyed this. I'd enjoy seeing more snapshots of WD issues from this era, the old D&D/Traveler/Call of Cthulhu content is fun.

    • @Scrombo2
      @Scrombo2 Рік тому

      Actually I know nothing abt traveler, a video (maybe not a full video but, part "more weird stuff advertised by White Dwarf back in the day) would be appreciated

  • @Dementat
    @Dementat Рік тому +8

    Can I suggest WD 75, it's the 10th anniversary edition and has the funniest DnD adventure I've ever ran in it

  • @felis1977
    @felis1977 Рік тому +18

    Nice to see both of you back in the saddle. The idea of White Dwarf retrospective every 50 issues is great. I was always interested in the backstage of the Warhammer creation. Well, mostly Tyranids but knowing the rest of the setting and what came before helps too.

  • @thomasdale5807
    @thomasdale5807 Рік тому +10

    Yeah, the real town of Dunwich - now a small village itself and ex-capital of East Anglia - is the village next door to Walberswich as well. Sigmund Freud actually died there and Southwold is a sort of holiday destination now too.

  • @Liam-ok9lm
    @Liam-ok9lm Рік тому +15

    Mark Harrison is currently drawing Sc-Fi story 'The Out' in 2000AD, written by Dan Abnett. You may have heard of him.

  • @DTooth7
    @DTooth7 Рік тому +4

    Codex Compliant has to be my favourite Warhammer related content on the entirety of UA-cam.

  • @jlworrad
    @jlworrad Рік тому +18

    Loving these old WD vids. Thanks! I'd recommend taking a look at issue 97 (and 98) because that was the ish' they jettisoned all other games save Games Workshops stuff. They did an editorial explaining the rationale that, as I recall, got a lot of letters in issue 98. But even the letters page was soon to disappear. GW was getting all professional and the communal vibe of old dwarf was on its way out.

  • @jlworrad
    @jlworrad Рік тому +4

    Looking at the cover now I realise it was probably inspired by William Hope Hodgson's 1908 novel The House On The Borderland, which has pig men and, well, a house.

    • @Powoga
      @Powoga Рік тому +3

      I'm pretty sure some versions of the novel actually used that image for the cover art.

  • @MrHinchapelotas
    @MrHinchapelotas Рік тому +3

    That traveler section reminds me a lot of PARANOIA, that tabletop RPG is all about that kind of silliness.

  • @arandomlostsoul753
    @arandomlostsoul753 Рік тому +2

    Last time I was this early, people were still painting their bases with Goblin Green.

  • @Daggers2002
    @Daggers2002 Рік тому +7

    Take it from a person who's actually visited the village of Dunwich, not far from Southwold in Suffolk, an actual tiny village that's falling into the sea and has numerous sunken churches dating back centuries as a result of erosion... I'm not sure what got named first the village or the village.... The UK is fucking weird lol
    (hell in the tiny local museum they even draw the comparison to Lovecraft's work and their little sinking town)

    • @thomasdale5807
      @thomasdale5807 Рік тому +2

      Its sort of spooky in a sense how many villages in the area have fallen in the sea. The tales of hearing the church bells ringing from under the sea, in time with the waves must be something that could be a bit unnerving.

    • @Daggers2002
      @Daggers2002 Рік тому +1

      @@thomasdale5807 Oh absolutely. It's one of those places that has those exact stories about it. I imagine being there at night would be spooky but during the day it's right by a public beach so it's children laughing not church bells you hear.

    • @thomasdale5807
      @thomasdale5807 Рік тому +1

      @@Daggers2002 Oh yes, it one of those lonely types of places. I remember holidaying in Southwold many times and wandering the beaches was a sort of desolate affair. I can fully understand how M R James was so inspired by the area to base his stories there.

    • @moleculeman27
      @moleculeman27 Рік тому

      Also very close to the Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident.

  • @Azoth86730
    @Azoth86730 Рік тому +10

    Perhaps you should also cover Red Giant as a curious follow up, or perhaps Fantasy Warlord overall. Red Giant was published as a protest against White Dwarf becoming GW products only magazine.

  • @chrisday9297
    @chrisday9297 Рік тому +3

    OMG that was a big bath of nostalgia! Still remember a bunch of those features (we immediately used the Assassin stuff!). My first WD was 44, so this was absolutely at the peak of my "dorky teenager getting massively into TTRPGs". Loved seeing the old ad for Gameskeeper on Cowley Rd, Oxford (the "We have something for everyone'" one) - that was our local (and only) game shop, and spent most Saturday mornings making the trip into town for it. Run by a lovely, slightly eccentric American couple IIRC, who remained running it for decades.

  • @darthknight1
    @darthknight1 Рік тому +2

    The cover looks like an interpretation of Wiliam Hope Hodgson's weird fiction tale The House on the Borderland from 1908. Just thought I'd mention that. Also, props for using music from the 90s game Shadow of the Horned Rat. I noticed.

  • @dylan9025
    @dylan9025 3 місяці тому +1

    Omg yes please go through rando issues of WD. We have to come up with a name for the series. Great work as always!

  • @charleslarue792
    @charleslarue792 Рік тому +3

    I love these White Dwarf videos. They're like little cross sections of nerd life from the time. Also, a video specifically about Thrud the Barbarian sounds like an absolute delight.

  • @SaltAsh303
    @SaltAsh303 Рік тому +6

    Always enjoy these White Dwarf deep dives- makes me nostalgic for an era I only ever saw in tattered old piles of magazines in the corner of the school library

  • @SnakeWorksStudio
    @SnakeWorksStudio Рік тому +1

    I lived just up the road from Walberswick. sadly its massively overshadowed by its upmarket neighbour, Southwold. Home of the most expensive Sausage rolls in the world. (probably)

  • @KateHolden
    @KateHolden Рік тому +4

    Holy crap Garth Nix! I had no idea he did Tabletop stuff. I love the Abhorsen trilogy! Oh no... I'm gonna fall down a wiki hole aren't I...?

  • @springheeledjackofthegurdi2117

    For those wondering what the cover from is, it's the cover for the book House on the borderlands a book HP Lovercraft wrote positive reviews of and is one of the favourite books of Sir Terry Pratchett. was this a book review or a tabletop adaptation? It's just we know Sir Terry was a reader at this time and even was tapped to do a Warhammer novel later and we recently discovered he would write and submit to magazines under a pen name so I was wondering if you think it is worth scanning white dwarf for any potential lost content as this year an entire series of stories was found.

  • @debbid
    @debbid Рік тому +2

    I love these videos! I got into Warhammer during 8th Edition, so I enjoy seeing how the game arrived at what it is today. Thank you for these looks into the game's past.

  • @victorbrianmcreynolds2200
    @victorbrianmcreynolds2200 Рік тому +3

    The characters of Griselda & Wolfhead, were both featured in a series of short stories written by Oliver dickinson, that White Dwarf featured on a semi-regular basis. They were eventually given stats in Chaosium's 'Big Rubble' scenario pack. Chaosium allowed White Dwarf to showcase their statistics, as Oliver Dickinson was the original author of those characters, even though his stories were set in Chaosium's 'Pavis' & 'Big Rubble' locations within the world of Glorantha. (Oliver Dickinson used to teach Bronze-Age History at Durham University.)

  • @DrLangas
    @DrLangas Рік тому +1

    Life is tough but Codex Compliant makes it a bit better. Thanks for the video ❤

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Рік тому +4

    New Snipe & Wib! 🤩
    The Citadel Minis for the White Dwarf Characters collection were pretty neat; especially the baseball bat welding Ian Livingston.
    The artwork on the Key of Tirandor is excellent.

    • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
      @TheSmart-CasualGamer 9 місяців тому +1

      Fairly sure it's a cricket bat.

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 9 місяців тому

      You would think so, wouldn't you, but it is definitely modeled as a baseball bat/club. 🤔🤷‍♀@@TheSmart-CasualGamer

  • @ironreed2654
    @ironreed2654 Рік тому +1

    Codex Compliant is always my favorite!

  • @SimonClark
    @SimonClark Рік тому

    _insert meme of overjoyed reaction at the bar, with CODEX COMPLIANT on the screen_

  • @darsis
    @darsis Рік тому +3

    Yes, please do more of these! It's also excellent to see you looking so well, Snipe.

  • @nassirahmad4873
    @nassirahmad4873 Рік тому +4

    That was a fun dive into the past. And it’s wonderful to see Snipe back in front of the camera. 👍

  • @Maxibon2007
    @Maxibon2007 Рік тому +1

    Walberswick in Suffolk, East Anglia....this could be linked in with " Hunter : The Parenting" which is set in neighbouring Norfolk ! :D

  • @NostokAgain
    @NostokAgain Рік тому +4

    Loved this dive back into White Dwarf /GW history. Please do more over the WD back catalogue.

  • @Scrombo2
    @Scrombo2 Рік тому +3

    Thank you, your video always put a smile on my face, hope things are going well

  • @Nekorook
    @Nekorook Рік тому +2

    i like the every 50 issue checkin on white dwarf. please do more!

  • @Quelqueshue
    @Quelqueshue Рік тому +1

    Awesome thank you! I started playing around this time, total nostalgia trip for me. Just love the way you guys present these vids and that you delve back into the mists of GW time and recognise the way WD changed as GW did from those days to become a Warhammer brochure.
    The analysis at the end is priceless.
    Oh and totally onboard with more reviews like this !! Thanks again 🕸️🏕️🦅🏞️

  • @chaosundividedreborn
    @chaosundividedreborn Рік тому

    Oh my god the gameskeeper ad! That was my local game store during uni and it’s still about today! Amazing to see it here

  • @garyburke6156
    @garyburke6156 Рік тому

    I was 12 in 1984 and can confirm that typing in lengthy software programs from magazines was something we occasionally did! but it was mostly the same kind of nerds that would buy an issue of White Dwarf in 1984. and that BASIC stuff was easy, the real fun was when the program was in assembly language and you had to type in 1000 lines of hexadecimal codes without error or any way to check errors.

  • @mazubahtender
    @mazubahtender Рік тому +1

    "The weather app says there's about a 30% chance of giant ominous skyboars today."
    "That's an improvement to yesterday."

  • @jonboulton6701
    @jonboulton6701 Рік тому

    Thanks both, really enjoy those old WD issues, and if you’re into RPG’s there’s so much gold dust in them

  • @MutualMischief
    @MutualMischief Рік тому +7

    Enjoyed this, I'd be keen to see more of the same!

  • @TheGCRust
    @TheGCRust Рік тому +2

    Easily my favorite Warhammer UA-cam series. Love these and love you guys!

  • @JimCarr
    @JimCarr Рік тому

    I used to collect White Dwarf in the early to mid 90s and can't wait to get to an issue I recognize! :D

  • @NeonGodzilla87
    @NeonGodzilla87 Рік тому

    For those keeping score, The Gameskeeper is still there on cowley Road and, yes, still has the same logo, although the goblin seems to have moved on.

  • @aidanfarnan4683
    @aidanfarnan4683 Рік тому

    Fun fact: 105 Cowley road Oxford is still a DnD and boardgame shop today, operating under the same name of "The Gameskeeper." I don't know if they have "something for everyone" but they do have dice and are opposite a really good pizza place, which is nice.

  • @DrKhallos
    @DrKhallos Рік тому +1

    i love these checkin videos (all two of them) so i'd love to see more!

  • @RuneChaosMarine
    @RuneChaosMarine Рік тому

    @4:20 garth nix wrote 'the seventh tower' i believe. and i loved it.

  • @michaeljames1334
    @michaeljames1334 Рік тому +1

    i love these videos so much.

  • @Enzo012
    @Enzo012 11 місяців тому

    I remember getting that as a back issue with my White Dwarf subscription in 1990. I remember thinking 'WTF is all this where's all the Warhammer gone?'

  • @tenkerr
    @tenkerr Рік тому +1

    I would love to see more of these. Keep up the great work.

  • @SuperMunchkin43
    @SuperMunchkin43 Рік тому

    "By the sacred Jockstrap of Robert E. Howard!" is a great expression i wanna use...idk when, idk how, but i wanna use it.

  • @aldergodric4324
    @aldergodric4324 Рік тому

    Oh hey I have that exact Lovecraft collector's book! The cover is great.
    And great video as always!

  • @thetraitorguardsmen.5321
    @thetraitorguardsmen.5321 Рік тому

    yes I remember the 80s in Manchester England being 8 years old at this time. Some thing's never change doesn't matter what year it is. But still Great times they was.

  • @Ignasi666
    @Ignasi666 Рік тому

    Gotta love the Shadow of the Horned Rat OST in the background.

  • @Riley-uy5pe
    @Riley-uy5pe Рік тому +1

    it's fun because that Steve Jackson Sorcery game has been more recently adapted as a adventure video game and it's pretty fun

  • @warpjediAK
    @warpjediAK Рік тому +1

    Great to see more codex compliant, hope you are doing OK.
    Great to see sparkplug on your desk rather than in a box in a cupboard

  • @mazubahtender
    @mazubahtender Рік тому +1

    I just had to stop and take a wee look, because I noticed the Killing Cup's alternate name: "Surma's Chalice". Surma is the Finnish word for killing a person, somewhere between manslaughter and murder is how I'd interpret it. And sure enough, it's stated to be from Finnish legend originally. Was not expecting that from a British magazine in the early 80s.
    Edit: Surma is also a being in Finnish Mythology, a monster that guards the gates of the underworld, or Tuonela. Think of it as the Finnish Cerberos, just less a good boy.

  • @graefx
    @graefx Рік тому

    I really appreciate the colored Travellers comic but good lord you're not kidding about chaotic energy.
    Man mail RPGs that's a relic of a different time for sure

  • @discordinc
    @discordinc Рік тому

    The traveler article reminds me a lot of Paranoia, which I know was published in 1984 and featured a lot of the same deadly bureaucracy. Don't know if it had any influence on this article.
    Also props for highlighting that letter. It is refreshing that people were upset with how woman were portrayed in fantasy art back then, even it the problems remain today.
    And finally I'm glad to see you all are still making videos and I hope Wib is doing well.

  • @zekenava6444
    @zekenava6444 Рік тому +1

    Love you guys

  • @agendergorgon1005
    @agendergorgon1005 Рік тому

    loved it! v charming to see twee old stuff

  • @ShallowVA
    @ShallowVA Рік тому +2

    Warhammer appearing in the adverts section of White Dwarf is weirdly humble in a way that is completely unrecognizable in modern GW.

  • @tomwiseman185
    @tomwiseman185 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting, nice vid thanks guys

  • @chopmopjeter18
    @chopmopjeter18 Рік тому

    I have an entire PDF collection of the old WDs, going back to issue 1 and up to issue 360 or so I think. And it truly is a wonderful little time capsule for an incredibly niche interest, feels like stepping into a time machine. Many of the articles are very good too. The Chris Felton article in #77 about female characters and archetypes in fantasy gaming and literature was an interesting read, and it also happened to be the same issue they published a Call of Cthulhu adventure called THE CARS THAT ATE SANITY.
    There's also issue 80 where the beginning of a time travelling adventure called Things Ancient and Modern made you and your group jump between time periods by jumping between playing Call of Cthulhu and AD&D, and that's dope.

  • @echorome6260
    @echorome6260 Рік тому +1

    You look great Snipe! Hope you're feeling well.

  • @popburnsy3207
    @popburnsy3207 Рік тому +1

    Always happy to see these two. You two are the best!

  • @zachheus
    @zachheus Рік тому

    Fascinating to see that a letters page from 1984 is just the same as any gamer comments section today.

  • @kaptainmanslaughta7887
    @kaptainmanslaughta7887 Рік тому

    Ok that sci-fi lawyer scenario sounds like they are dealing with Vogons.

  • @satinthrone
    @satinthrone Рік тому +1

    Great vid, would love to see more of this aye! Growing up in the 90s GW was already into 2nd ed 40k and 3rd ed Fantasy by the time I got into a store looking for DRAGONS, a very different company to these early days.

  • @waffloe
    @waffloe Рік тому

    LOL! i wasnt aware the gameskeeper down cowley road had been going that long! i used to like 30 minutes away from it

  • @YossarianVanDriver
    @YossarianVanDriver Рік тому +1

    Oh yeah, pre-"Warhammer advert" white dwarf is always fun to see, would love to see more. Either in this super-early period or even after it became mostly Warhammer-focused but still more of a gaming magazine than a catalogue.

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah Рік тому

    I really like the bureaucratic nightmare idea. I need to work that into my game of Cyberpunk 2020

  • @wokehammer40k
    @wokehammer40k Рік тому

    Oh man I love Garth Nix! cool to see his work in white dwarf!

  • @jonny5488
    @jonny5488 Рік тому +1

    Gameskeeper in oxford (from the ad at 16:56) is still there!

    • @GoldringI
      @GoldringI Рік тому

      Opened up comments just to say this! Denizens of Oxfordshire do still have an independent game store!

  • @dominicferronato4806
    @dominicferronato4806 Рік тому

    YES I've been waiting for the next Codex Compliant!!!! You just made my day!!!! You guys rock!!

  • @neonube
    @neonube Рік тому

    I'm always on board for your videos!

  • @Edwoodb3
    @Edwoodb3 Рік тому

    In regards to the front cover. That's no Pigman... that's... THAT'S... MANBEARPIG!

  • @adampriestley7732
    @adampriestley7732 Рік тому

    Great to see you both. I think every 25 issues please, rather than 50.

  • @Octarinewolf
    @Octarinewolf Рік тому

    There were Griselda stories in WD41 and WD43, also WD51. Runerites was edited by Oliver Dickinson, who wrote the Griselda stories.

  • @helios7170
    @helios7170 Рік тому +1

    I would watch you both go through every single white dwarf, in order… despite there essentially being no end in site to such a series 😂

  • @tobiasboh3370
    @tobiasboh3370 Рік тому

    The dopamine boost of a new codex compliant video! I love these glimpses into the past, it's so easy to forget how quickly the world has changed!

  • @n8_.
    @n8_. Рік тому

    I love when you dig through these old mags.

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 11 місяців тому

    Heliconia Summer is amazing, Brian Aldiss kills it

  • @davidcross7824
    @davidcross7824 Рік тому

    This was a great video on the charming quirkiness of White Dwarf, would love to see more. Snipe, you're looking amazing as always, Wib, you look good too

  • @vaniellys
    @vaniellys Рік тому +1

    New Snipe & Wib video = good day

  • @necronwarrior
    @necronwarrior Рік тому

    My first WD was issue 92, I'd be ever so pleased to see a review on it! Ah, the memories!

  • @stujm84
    @stujm84 Рік тому

    I love these vids, a nice mix of humour and deep diving into the history of GW in a way that is accessible to anyone. It's incredible to think there was a time when GW actually advertised their products on a level playing field with someone else's, how times change!

  • @thomasswingler174
    @thomasswingler174 Рік тому

    Yes please love these episodes!

  • @loathesome_pilk_drinker
    @loathesome_pilk_drinker Рік тому

    Even though the content has no baring on my interests outside of warhammer, the way you present the information and make it fun make these videos endlessly engaging, thank you!

  • @fireinacan
    @fireinacan Рік тому

    Looking forward to the next instalments!

  • @josephskiles
    @josephskiles Рік тому +1

    I'd like to see more of the old magazines, the crafting articles would be cool I think

  • @lorcannagle
    @lorcannagle Рік тому +3

    That red tape scenario made it into later editions of the Traveller Rulebook, interestingly. A variation of it (without specific humourous forms) appears in the game's 4th edition. My copy is sufficiently difficult to get to that I can't check if Nix was credited for it, though.

  • @synthetic240
    @synthetic240 Рік тому

    I have Garth Nix's Abhorsen trilogy in a single volume. My mom got it for me at a random garage sale. I was somewhat too old for YA fantasy, but the blurb on the back and the cover art intrigued me. Imagine my surprise that it was a well-thought out fantasy setting that features necromancy heavily without being super grimdark gothic ( I have my share of Warhammer Fantasy novels about undead for that).

  • @TVforyourCats
    @TVforyourCats Рік тому

    Yes! Love waking up to new CC. Great work as usual y’all.

  • @haydennorthrup9111
    @haydennorthrup9111 Рік тому

    Always love seeing a new episode come out. Hope everything is going great over there

  • @keyring4758
    @keyring4758 Рік тому

    That awesome art work on the cover was also on the cover of a book called 'The House on the Board lands' by William Hope Hodgson.
    Very H.P Lovecraft in a way but worth a read or a Google

  • @stephenjohnston7630
    @stephenjohnston7630 Рік тому

    Peak WD for me, I was buying and reading it religiously and was playing basically every game it even mentioned.