I want to say: ever since I found your video on how does the keyblade cut - I have been a fan of your videos and I find myself waiting for the next one to be posted.
HMK In the end of 3D certain org members went back to their own times with no memories (ie. YX, Xemnas, Ansem, etc). So... how did they return a second time. Even if YX have “etches” from the future and can still time travel, he still forgot it. How did he know when to time travel and do his mission again?
Okay, back up. Everyone in the real Organization, including the Nobodies, has their own hearts. What about Ansem? He is Xehanort's Heartless, and despite the title he has possession of Xehanort's heart. So when you say Ansem's heart went back to the past, did you mean Xehanort's heart, cause how can Ansem, a Heartless, develop a heart of his own?
Titles I'll make up titles for the new kids 13. The lost light 12. The Wander of time 11. The empty shadow 10. The Mirrored Warrior 9. The Possesed Champion 1. The Master of Darkness
1. The Master of Darkness 2. The Seeker of Darkness 3. The Superior of The Inbetween 4. The Freeshooter 5. The Gambler of Fate 6. The Savage Nymph 7. The Graceful Assassin 8. The Lunar Diviner 9. The Possessed Youth 10: The Shadow of Dawn 11. The Cursed Child 12. The Young Master 13. The Traitor of Light
Good that we know their ranks now. The original organization 13 will always be my favorite. It is cool how we got to fight it again as the new seekers of darkness, even that not all of them are the same. 358/2 Days had a big part to make me love them. Seeing things from their perspectives.
@@christiangutierrez1174 i never played that game and i want to so badly. i bought "The Story so far" collection, but it isn't as a playable game unfortunately...
MoonLightu I played it twice, as a game it has a LOT of flaws but if you love the characters and story you should be able to look past it, I recommend downloading an emulator on your phone & playing it, there’s a bunch of tutorials on how to do it on here
@@christiangutierrez1174 thx, didn't i forgot about emulators. How can i enjoy the story more? By playing the emulation version or just watching the cramped thing in the collection? I just know roughly what about the story in that game is. Also seen the final battle as spoiler
@@christiangutierrez1174 I already got it as an emulator on pc alongside Recoded. The beauty in this ... No pay, free play! This is even how I played KH1, KH2, COM and BBS. PS2 and PSP emulators.
Notes: Xion - While her main element is Light, she is able to use any element Sora can. Young Xehanort - He can also use Fire and Ethereal Blades. Vanitas - He has wielded the χ-blade in the past. Dark Riku - Theoretically, he should be able to use a Keyblade. Terra-Xehanort - Can also use Earth. Marluxia - Can theoretically use a Keyblade. Larxene - Can theoretically use a Keyblade. Luxord - According to Xemnas, he can theoretically use a Keyblade. Xigbar - Can use a Keyblade, when he’s able to. Xemnas - Can theoretically use a Keyblade (it’s a sad story) Ansem - Also used to wield a Keyblade and Halberd. Master Xehanort - Used to wield a Keyblade.
Additional stuff: Xion - can use anyone's weapon with a Copy ability like Kirby Vanitas - uses a barrage of shadow keyblades. Dark Riku - can probably use KH1 Riku magic and abilities Terranort - can use Gravity magic Marluxia - can wield the Divine Rose keyblade when he regains memory Larxene - can also control Ice but it's not her style LOL Luxord - can also use dice as weapons and illusion powers Xigbar - can also use Darkness and probably Light (being a Foreteller) Xemnas - can use Lightning (everone forgets about his Force Lightning in KH1 and 2) Ansem - used to use the Guardian Master Xehanort - also wield No Name and Starlight variant and can also use Earth and Time magic
Xion's main element besides light is replication, she briefly used Saix's Claymore and even had different blades for her forms in Days Young Xehanort doesn't use ethereal blades, just clock hands. Young Xehanort has used fire, ice, thunder, earth, wind, and time magic. Can do Keyblade transformations (primarily a whip and time machine) Vanitas: Can also use the thunder element Terra-Xehanort - Can also use Terra's Earth Shaker for Keyblade Transformations, can control Dark Figure (Guardian) Xemnas - Briefly had access to the fallen Org. member weapons in KH2, and could wield a Nobody Sword in KH2. Had a battleship (World Of Nothingness) Ansem - Once had powers of time before he got a body, when he posssessed Riku, he briefly had access to the Soul Eater and Keyblade Of People's Hearts, can control Dark Figure (Guardian) up until it's destroyed. Had a battleship (World Of Chaos) Master Xehanort - Also has powers over earth, wind, time, and had power over Kingdom Hearts directly. At one point, he could wield up to 13 Keyblades. Can do Keyblade transformations with his Keyblade (No Heart battle), and the X-blade itself. When in rage form, the 12 shadow clones can still use a Keyblade.
@@Andy-wt6ym The Guardian is not a weapon, just a shadowy entity. Almost like a dark summon. Ansem could use the Guardian up until it's destroyed. Terra-Xehanort revived before the end of DDD and Ansem used the Guardian five times since (3 times in DDD, twice in KH3). The only reason he doesn't use it int he Keyblade Graveyard as it is occupied by Terra-Xehanort (they both can't use it at the same time), then it's destroyed before Ansem's main fight
I mean, this could be kinda shortened up to the fact that all of them possess a keyblade or has previously wielded a keyblade, with half having somewhat of a direct connection to Xehanort with Ansem, YX, Xemnas, Terranort, Vanitas, and Xigbar (kinda)
Nomura said in an interview that he didn't rank the Real Organization XIII members. He just left the idea of numbering members in the past. Numbering the new Org members didn't seem to be relevant to him.
@@HMK Those numbers are just based on the placement of the original Organization members in KH2FM. They didn't place them with that concept in mind. They just put them to doors randomly. This whole New Organization ranking thing is just like the fuss about Sora's mom, where people are making mountains out of molehills.
HMK think about it why would Vanitas and Young Xehanort be so low... its obvious the real rankings will be: I Master Xehanort II Ansem III Xemnas IV Young Xehanort V Vanitas VI Terra Xehanort VII Xigbar XIII Saïx IX Luxord X Marluxia XI Larxene XII Dark Riku XIII Xion
My expected placing of the members was this one: I. Master Xehanort II. Xemnas III. Ansem IV. Xigbar V. Terra Xehanort VI. Vanitas VII. Saïx VIII. Marluxia IX. Larxene X. Luxord XI. Riku Replica XII. Young Xehanort XIII. Xion
Nice vid! Can never have enough Xehanort content lol I personally would have loved if Nomura had explored the Real Organization XIII more in KH3. The concept of “norting,” despite all our jokes, has genuinely terrifying implications. I would have loved if we had seen instances of the members occasionally losing control of their own identities/personas as Xehanort’s heart corroded their own. They are very much like Replicants from “Blade Runner” (hence why Rutger Hauer’s casting was clever lol). I think it would have been great if we’d seen a few instances of the Nobodies slowly realizing (bc of their link to Xehanort) the terrible fate that awaited them-and being openly afraid of it (bc of their heart) but also powerless to resist (bc of his). This would have added dramatic irony/depth to the story, where we as audience members would be aware that the O13 are victims just like Aqua and Ven, and it would have foreshadowed their final monologues (and made them even more heartbreaking lol). I feel bad for Nomura when I hear people saying KH3’s story is bad. I find that it actually has a very strong story; it’s just a little under-written and the truly interesting stuff is happening offscreen (the Organization betrayals, Riku/Mickey in Realm of D, etc). I am hoping for a main story update someday. With just a little more expansion, KH3’s story could really shine. And I’d love for Nomura to ask Nojima to assist. KH3 has many great ideas, and Nomura said he had a hard time interweaving all the different plot points. As we’ll see this April, that’s a Kazushige Nojima specialty lol When Nomura has a co-writer who knows how to bring the nuances of his stories to the forefront of the main scenario, that’s when KH can hit that magical sweet-spot that few other series can. Looking forward to the next vid. Keep up the great work, and above all stay safe!
Xion: The Empty Puppet Young Xehanort: The Pasts Darkness Vanitas: Lights Darkness Dark Riku: The Longful Replica Terra Xehanort: The Fading Light Xehanort: The Mastermind
Probably tech limitations. The Castle itself is massive, then when you add the Dark City on top of that-easily San Fransokyo’s size-the console might explode lol I was sad not to see it again, though. ReMind’s Garden of Assemblage floor and wall textures are a hint to what the Castle would have looked like in Unreal, and it’s very cool.
@@marcoa6319 It's a barren wasteland! There's no lab for Young Xehanort, Dark Riku, and Vexen to finalize Xion. The Organization would've had a budget of zero! Where did they sleep?
There are so many important characters in the that has so much bigger important in the story, it makes me wonder how they even got into a group like O.13. *Like Luxord & the Union X characters.* They all have goals that doesn't go along with the Organization. Even when they were brought back to life, they STILL join the organization for some godforsaken reason.
Because Xehanort needed them for the creation of the X-Blade. Despite their individual roles or motives, Master Xehanort remained the biggest influence until the end. I mean, who could stand against him when even Luxu couldn't take No Name back from him?
3:42 - It's implied that originally, before recovering in Montropolis, that Vanitas used one of the replicas to appear in the World That Never Was, but thanks to Randal he was able to reconstruct his heart & body of darkness, and that his was either used by Xion(Hence why she's No. XIII, while he's No. XI) or that it was the one that ended-up serving as Roxas' new vessel(Since it appeared before Ventus was awoken, and Demyx only acquired the Vessel for Namine after Repliku was removed from it. Demyx also specifies this one is "another" replica and tells RIku "I've done this before" while pointing his thumb at himself). Out of the 11 that showed-up during Dream Drop Distance, only 5 of them are confirmed to be from the past: Vanitas, Repliku, Ansem, Xemnas, & YMX, out of the 20 vessels. Considering those 5, Sora, & Xehanort, there were 6 people that weren't using replicas: Luxord, Marluxia, Larxene, Xigbar, & Saix, at least. From there, the fact they were using replicas, which Vexen states in Secret Report 7 that the majority of the 20 were initially failures but in Secret Report 8 he states that Xemnas ordered him to refine the remaining 18, one might suspect Vexen is the missing 11/13th person. But, it might've actually have been Demyx, hence why he told Larxene he got benched and that one of Vexen's replicas stole his spot(AKA; Xion). 5:19 - According to Master Xehanort, at least. Considering the fact that Terra's Heart emerged from the Guardian before being purified, it seems more likely that his Soul/Mind was still trapped in his armor as Lingering Will, and since we saw it get destroyed, that might genuinely be what was wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I swear Numora actually commented his Soul was still missing. It would make sense that Xemnas had the Mind/Soul of Xehanort & Terra's Body & Heart, since Ansem is XEHANORT's Heartless, and seemingly MX removing his heart to take Terra's was the initial destruction of his body. Thus only upon Xemnas destruction's was Xehanort able to be re-completed while Terra's Heart & Body, which were effectively together the entire time, emerged while Terra Soul/Mind was still trapped inside Lingering Will. 5:44- In case it was still unclear, Rank is indeed determined by Numbers, but Numbers are initially determined by Order of entry into the Organization, from there with a fallen Number everyone below goes up a Rank. Vexen flouting his Rank is partially him reminding those below him that he has seniority, might also explain the "Don't tell me I don't respect my elders" bit from Axel in GBA's CoM(What would it matter if they don't age?). With Vexen, Lexaeus, & Zexion destroyed, Saix essentially became the new Number 4, Zexion would've still outranked Saix if Axel hadn't convinced Repliku to off him, hence why he said, "I moved things along just the way you wanted... At least for now" & why Vexen in Secret Report 7 states, "Though younger than me, he'd risen to become Xemnas's right-hand" , from there that would explain part of Saix & Lea's conversation at The Twilight Clock-tower, "I helped you rise up the ranks, so I hope it paid off" . Xigbar told us that Xemnas & Xehanort formed the Organization and Luxord also alludes to this in Re:Mind, but like Vanitas, all Ansem needs is a version of himself to appear there. IF the heart of a Pureblood can be stated to go anywhere while the Nobody is still in one piece, it would probably be the Realm of Sleep & Xemnas makes frequent visits to the Chamber of Sleep, plus Ansem Reports XI-XIII & Ansem's interaction with Ansem the Wise in the Realm of Darkness confirm he was the one who retained his memories, combine this with both Ansem & Xehanort having the same philosophy towards the heart's true nature and it's hard to argue Ansem & Xehanort aren't *effectively* the same entity, hence MX is No. I, Ansem No. 2, & Xemnas No. 3. Xigbar gave Luxord his order to search for the Box, passing it off as Xemnas' Order, implying Xigbar out-ranked Luxord. Larxene was eliminated before Marluxia, so she's had more time to be initially re-completed and forsake her humanity, that's my best guess, at the very least. Jumping off of that, Saix was last after Xemnas to fade, Terra-Nort was mentioned in Dream Drop Distance as one of the two on Mickey's list of himself, Riku, Sora, and his three missing friends that, "belong to me now", so it must've been acquired before Repliku joined. Vanitas, MX's former apprentice, would've been a far more obvious choice than YMX and it wasn't until the meeting in Re: Mind that Xion came-up, since that happened right after failing to get Sora. It's messy, but there's enough in it to make sense, even if they really were completely chosen at random. We could also point out how Saix began with Marluxia, Larxene & Luxord, it would make sense for the lower available Ranks to be sent out on missions first, and if Xemnas had Xehanort's Mind, it makes some sense for his Right & Left Hand Men from the Old Organization to be plotting with him, regardless of their official ranks. But the order of the members who returned to their time were Ansem(No. 2), Xemnas(No. 3), Vanitas(No. 11), Repliku(No. 10), & YMX(No. 12). However, my lying eyes show that Repliku only appeared alongside, but before, Xion & Vexen, so I almost have to wonder if the localization screwed the pooch and ruined the intended order of Numbers 2, 3, 11, & 12. That being said, it can't be ignored that Riku met Repliku in Prankster's Paradise wearing an Organization's Coat. So, sadly, this doesn't help further explain the order. 8:33- I know better than to tell you to calm down, but c'mon man, we get it, you want this to actually mean something instead of just being a coincidence. And it might be, but it also might not be.
@@marcoa6319 According to Saix, the Xion from the Keyblade Graveyard was made from the records left behind by Vexen. Which is to imply it's essentially a replica of Xion. According to Repliku his heart and body are 'fake', which lead me to believe that just like a replica, their 'heart' is also made out of data. Repliku was able to sense Riku had changed when they reunited at the Twilight Mansion in CO. To me, that almost seems to imply that just like how the memories of a Nobody are on the other side of a 'somebodies' heart, Replicas are essentially the nobodies of the original. After all, the data of them is necessary to act as a heart, their core, their essence, to give them shape. As such, a replica of Xion is just as connected to the original as the original Xion is to Sora. *So, my answer would be no.* Xion's past heart was NOT put in the replica, it had Vexen's leftover data of Xion and a piece of Xehanort's Heart to forge one of the 13 pieces(As horribly as it's shown, even in Re:Mind). Furthermore, the rules of, presumably, using the Power of Waking to time travel, outside of Sora's limited use, is that there needs to be another version of you waiting there. So unless you think that it only has to be on the same world, and therefore Sora qualified as another version, there are no time-travel-shenanigans going on with Xion. Same with Roxas & Terra.
RandomRamblin' Researcher Unfortunately, the kh3 ultimania states that Xion’s past heart was indeed used to house her new replica body. But I do prefer your explanation.
I'm surprised you didn't mention about Young Xehanort's original weapons in Birth By Sleep, the energy blades he has during his very annoying boss battle.
Nah that’s more what Terra has access to since he uses your own commands in BBS. His earth attacks were replaced by dark attacks in every other fight against him. The Earth element was always Lexaeus
13. The Lost Light: Xion 12. The Wonder of Time: Young Xehanort 11. The Empty Shadow: Vanitas 10. The Mirror Warrior: Dark Riku 9. The Fallen Champion: Terra-Xehanort 8. The Lunar Diviner: Saix 7.The Graceful Assassin: Marluxia 6. The Savage Nymph: Larxene 5. The Gambler of Fate: Luxord 4. The Free Shooter: Xigbar 3. The Superior of The In-Between: Xemnas 2. The Seeker of Darkness: Ansem 1. The Master of Chaos and Destruction: Master Xehanort
I thought that when master xehanort returned he was just a heart that created a shell that looked like his old self. My reasoning was always what happened to Sora in KH1 where he and roxas coexisted thus Sora was just a heart who had a shell that looked like his former self thanks to kairi's light reverting his heartless form. Guess I was wrong?
I expected this ranking: I. Master Xehanort II. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness III. Xemnas IV. Young Xehanort V. Terra-Xehanort VI. Xigbar VII. Saix VIII. Marluxia IX. Larxene X. Luxord XI. Vanitas XII. Dark Riku XIII. Xion
This makes no sense.... So Dark Riku a higher rank than Young Xehanort??? Larxene a higher rank than Marluxia??? Marluxia a higher rank than Saïx??? gtfoh
The reason why Dark Riku was at a higher rank than Young Xehanort is because Riku can go through the Door to Darkness without fear and without the cloak like Young Xehanort as seen in the beginning of ReMind.
The Organization's numbers are NOT rankings. In the original Organization, the numbers were the order in which they joined. That's why Saix was Xemnas' second in command despite not being #2 and why Marluxia was given command of half the group despite being #11. The numbers in the new Organization are also not ranks, because Saix remained in a high position despite going down in number. The numbers don't seem to correspond to join order, since that would mean Young Xehanort should be as high as #1 depending on your point of view. They also don't correspond to similarity to Master Xehanort, since Ansem and Xemnas are close in number to Master Xehanort while Young Xehanort and Terra-Xehanort, both of whom ARE Master Xehanort, are all the way at the other end of the numbers.
Does anybody else think it's kind of sweet that Saix got the rank of number eight, which just so happened to be Axel's number when he was in the Organization?
I've been recently thinking, wouldn't it have been better for Xehanort that instead of retaining his old original form, turned himself back into Terra-Xehanort and have Demyx filling the missing spot? I mean, Terra-Xehanort proved to be stronger than Master Xehanort storywise. So imagine Terra-Xehanort being both the Organization's leader, and the χ-blade's wielder.
Uh, Master Xehanort is not a pushover despite being old. I can say that he actually got more OP abilities as an old man rather than Terra-Xehanort. Also, the only reason Master Xehanort needed to possess Terra's body back in Birth by Sleep was so he could live much longer to see his original plan to create the x-blade succeed. That plan obviously fails due to Terra's heart actively rebelling against him. Once he came back following Ansem and Xemnas' destruction (which happened 10 years after he took over Terra's body), he didn't need to do it again because he already knew that possessing Terra's body a second time proved too much of a risk.
10:19 Ummmm are you sure that's his Nobody? I meaaaaan personally thought Luxu reformed. Kinda weird that the Foreteller are talking to *"Luxu's Nobody"*
He couldn't serve as a vessel if he wasn't technically a husk. He and Saïx had to be turned back into nobodies after reemerging. Remember, Xehanort's Organization and the summoning of Kingdom Hearts was essential in Luxu's role. Luxu/Xigbar doesn't require to be human to complete it, he just needs to be conscious when the box reappears and when No Name loses its former master.
Considering how the original ranking was made, I prefer that the true rankings of the organization members are 1:Xehanort 2:Vanitas 3:Xigbar 4:Terranort 5:Ansem 6:Xemnas 7:Young Xehanort 8:Saix 9:Luxord 10:Marluxia 11:Larxene 12:Repliku 13:Xion Reason why ansem and xemnas were ranked that way was because despite being the nobles and heartless of Xehanort, they originated from Terra.
Young Xehanort and Dark Riku were conducting experiments on how to create hearts and put them in a vessel. Xion was recreated from the data on No. I from her previous time existing. Saïx had Vexen implant memories related to Axel and Roxas in the new Xion. However, her true heart and memories were released from Roxas's heart, thua giving her a true existence
All moments of Organization 13 were cool and I will miss them, all of them. The battle themes, the normal themes, Xemnas awesome earorgasm voice. But I'm looking forward to the new things we get in KH4.
I can understand Xemnas not being at #1 anymore, since Master Xehanort returned. But how the hell did he go below Ansem!?! Xemnas is still one of the STRONGEST members in the Organnization! Old and new! Ansem being more powerful then Xemnas? Bullshit. But that's just what I think. Good video HMK! Loved it!
Yeah, he uses dark spheres. Ansem used a sphere to destroy Destiny Islands and countless other worlds in KH1, a giant sphere is his ultimate DM in KH1 World Of Chaos Ansem, Ansem's dark lasers in World Of Chaos are also just the electrically charged spheres. In a RECOM cutscene, Ansem throws a dark sphere at Riku, Ansem also uses the spheres again as mega lasers, the fission firaga attack, and as giant bowling balls. By KH3, he uses the dark lasers again, can use the dark lasers to charge towards the opponent or as laser barrier, can use the spheres to spit dark firagas flames at you, use fission firaga again, an orbiter DM, and dark bowling balls return.
You know I’m honestly really surprised that xemnas is at number 3 and ansem at number 2. Kind of thought it would’ve been the other way around. Here’s how I personally would’ve ranked the orginazation members. 1. Master Xehanort 2. Xemnas 3. Ansem 4. Young Xehanort 5. Terra-Xehanort 6. Vanitas 7. Braig 8. Saix 9. Marluxia 10. Larxene 11. Luxord 12. Dark Riku 13. Xion I know this ranking might seem a bit janky but at least master Xehanort and xion remain in the same spots. Just giving the different Xehanorts more priority.
The reason why Dark Riku was at a higher rank than Young Xehanort is because Riku can go through the Door to Darkness without fear(KH 1) and without the cloak like Young Xehanort as seen in the beginning of ReMind.
So are they all possessed by xenhort? That's what confuses me xenhort keeps saying he wants to place his heart in all the members but those dark welders? I don't get it
I still think we haven't seen the true Organization tbh. Honestly, I think Sora and co will be the true Organization when they eventually square up against the Foretellers, Luxu, and the Master
Gats T Very likely. Based on what I've seen in the box art, it'll be the Destiny Trio, the Disney Trio, the Wayfinder Trio, the Sea-salt Trio, and Namine.
this is such an awesome video I think and truly amazing how each of the new organisation members are ranked. when I saw this for the first time in limit cut I was trull blown away. especially with luxord being at number 5. I really like the explanation you gave for him. he certain is the most interesting character from the new organisation right now isn't it?
HMK am a fan of thegamersjoint and it's been almost 2 mouths since he made a video and us fans of his are worried about him can you text him to ask if he s ok cause us fans are worried pls man its just a favor
so all the people in organization Xlll died and then turned into nobodies technically. some did just get defeated yes but they still turned into nobodies and came back to life for the next game??? correct me if I'm wrong please.
The old O13 ranks was based on the time they joined so if the new O13 is the same then larxene shouldnt be higher than marluxia seeing that in both O13 she joined because of marluxia.
Damn I'm still confuse about there ranks, so it isn't? I. Master Xehanort II. Xemnas III. Ansem IV. Xigbar V. Dark Riku VI. Vanitas VII. Saïx VIII. Luxord IX. Marluxia X. Larxene XI. Xion XII. Young Xehanort XIII. Terranort
Why didn't Terranort age? He should have aged...I get the loopholes you want to jump through to not make Ven and Aqua age, but Terra should be in his 30's
In remind roxas points at saix and tells xenmas there were traitors in his organization (Xenmas did not know he was pointing behind him) He also, kept repeating axel and roxas to help xion remember , he always calls axel, lea too,
@@HMK Where? I'm looking at secret reports 7 and 8 right now and I don't see it. Have also watched the cutscenes of Remind several times and see no evidence for it besides that Saix says the names "Roxas" and "Axel" in front of Xion, which I do not think he did on purpose.
@@yungbreezy36 I still see no reason to think that it was any more than the writers' way to show that she still had some memory of Roxas and Axel in her
The FULL Story behind the Seekers of Darkness AKA the REAL Organization XIII! Share the Video to Get the people INFORMED! Lets get past 1000 Likes!
I want to say: ever since I found your video on how does the keyblade cut - I have been a fan of your videos and I find myself waiting for the next one to be posted.
Xehanort, Xehanort and Xehanort Live featuring specal musical guest Xehanort
HMK In the end of 3D certain org members went back to their own times with no memories (ie. YX, Xemnas, Ansem, etc). So... how did they return a second time. Even if YX have “etches” from the future and can still time travel, he still forgot it. How did he know when to time travel and do his mission again?
Can you explain the reason for the ranking order?
Okay, back up. Everyone in the real Organization, including the Nobodies, has their own hearts. What about Ansem? He is Xehanort's Heartless, and despite the title he has possession of Xehanort's heart. So when you say Ansem's heart went back to the past, did you mean Xehanort's heart, cause how can Ansem, a Heartless, develop a heart of his own?
Titles I'll make up titles for the new kids
13. The lost light
12. The Wander of time
11. The empty shadow
10. The Mirrored Warrior
9. The Possesed Champion
1. The Master of Darkness
1. The Master of Darkness
2. The Seeker of Darkness
3. The Superior of The Inbetween
4. The Freeshooter
5. The Gambler of Fate
6. The Savage Nymph
7. The Graceful Assassin
8. The Lunar Diviner
9. The Possessed Youth
10: The Shadow of Dawn
11. The Cursed Child
12. The Young Master
13. The Traitor of Light
Good that we know their ranks now. The original organization 13 will always be my favorite. It is cool how we got to fight it again as the new seekers of darkness, even that not all of them are the same. 358/2 Days had a big part to make me love them. Seeing things from their perspectives.
It’d be really cool if they made another 358 for the new organization through the eyes of Xion or Young Xehanort, I also demand an original 358 remake
@@christiangutierrez1174 i never played that game and i want to so badly.
i bought "The Story so far" collection, but it isn't as a playable game unfortunately...
MoonLightu I played it twice, as a game it has a LOT of flaws but if you love the characters and story you should be able to look past it, I recommend downloading an emulator on your phone & playing it, there’s a bunch of tutorials on how to do it on here
@@christiangutierrez1174 thx, didn't i forgot about emulators.
How can i enjoy the story more?
By playing the emulation version or just watching the cramped thing in the collection? I just know roughly what about the story in that game is. Also seen the final battle as spoiler
@@christiangutierrez1174 I already got it as an emulator on pc alongside Recoded.
The beauty in this ... No pay, free play!
This is even how I played KH1, KH2, COM and BBS.
PS2 and PSP emulators.
Notes:
Xion - While her main element is Light, she is able to use any element Sora can.
Young Xehanort - He can also use Fire and Ethereal Blades.
Vanitas - He has wielded the χ-blade in the past.
Dark Riku - Theoretically, he should be able to use a Keyblade.
Terra-Xehanort - Can also use Earth.
Marluxia - Can theoretically use a Keyblade.
Larxene - Can theoretically use a Keyblade.
Luxord - According to Xemnas, he can theoretically use a Keyblade.
Xigbar - Can use a Keyblade, when he’s able to.
Xemnas - Can theoretically use a Keyblade (it’s a sad story)
Ansem - Also used to wield a Keyblade and Halberd.
Master Xehanort - Used to wield a Keyblade.
Additional stuff:
Xion - can use anyone's weapon with a Copy ability like Kirby
Vanitas - uses a barrage of shadow keyblades.
Dark Riku - can probably use KH1 Riku magic and abilities
Terranort - can use Gravity magic
Marluxia - can wield the Divine Rose keyblade when he regains memory
Larxene - can also control Ice but it's not her style LOL
Luxord - can also use dice as weapons and illusion powers
Xigbar - can also use Darkness and probably Light (being a Foreteller)
Xemnas - can use Lightning (everone forgets about his Force Lightning in KH1 and 2)
Ansem - used to use the Guardian
Master Xehanort - also wield No Name and Starlight variant and can also use Earth and Time magic
Xion's main element besides light is replication, she briefly used Saix's Claymore and even had different blades for her forms in Days
Young Xehanort doesn't use ethereal blades, just clock hands. Young Xehanort has used fire, ice, thunder, earth, wind, and time
magic. Can do Keyblade transformations (primarily a whip and time machine)
Vanitas: Can also use the thunder element
Terra-Xehanort - Can also use Terra's Earth Shaker for Keyblade Transformations, can control Dark Figure (Guardian)
Xemnas - Briefly had access to the fallen Org. member weapons in KH2, and could wield a Nobody Sword in KH2. Had a battleship (World Of Nothingness)
Ansem - Once had powers of time before he got a body, when he posssessed Riku, he briefly had access to the Soul Eater and Keyblade Of People's Hearts, can control Dark Figure (Guardian) up until it's destroyed. Had a battleship (World Of Chaos)
Master Xehanort - Also has powers over earth, wind, time, and had power over Kingdom Hearts directly. At one point, he could wield up to 13 Keyblades. Can do Keyblade transformations with his Keyblade (No Heart battle), and the X-blade itself. When in rage form, the 12 shadow clones can still use a Keyblade.
@@Andy-wt6ym The Guardian is not a weapon, just a shadowy entity. Almost like a dark summon. Ansem could use the Guardian up until it's destroyed. Terra-Xehanort revived before the end of DDD and Ansem used the Guardian five times since (3 times in DDD, twice in KH3). The only reason he doesn't use it int he Keyblade Graveyard as it is occupied by Terra-Xehanort (they both can't use it at the same time), then it's destroyed before Ansem's main fight
Why can’t Xemnas use a keyblade.
I mean, this could be kinda shortened up to the fact that all of them possess a keyblade or has previously wielded a keyblade, with half having somewhat of a direct connection to Xehanort with Ansem, YX, Xemnas, Terranort, Vanitas, and Xigbar (kinda)
Nomura said in an interview that he didn't rank the Real Organization XIII members. He just left the idea of numbering members in the past. Numbering the new Org members didn't seem to be relevant to him.
That was BEFORE the Limitcut Episode and the additional Material, now we have numbers
@@HMK Those numbers are just based on the placement of the original Organization members in KH2FM.
They didn't place them with that concept in mind. They just put them to doors randomly.
This whole New Organization ranking thing is just like the fuss about Sora's mom, where people are making mountains out of molehills.
HMK no....
yungbreezy36 no he isn’t...
HMK think about it why would Vanitas and Young Xehanort be so low... its obvious the real rankings will be:
I Master Xehanort
II Ansem
III Xemnas
IV Young Xehanort
V Vanitas
VI Terra Xehanort
VII Xigbar
XIII Saïx
IX Luxord
X Marluxia
XI Larxene
XII Dark Riku
XIII Xion
My expected placing of the members was this one:
I. Master Xehanort
II. Xemnas
III. Ansem
IV. Xigbar
V. Terra Xehanort
VI. Vanitas
VII. Saïx
VIII. Marluxia
IX. Larxene
X. Luxord
XI. Riku Replica
XII. Young Xehanort
XIII. Xion
Wrong rankings.
@@herobrianclarkpaul7135 I know they are wrong. I was saying how I thought the rankings were going to be like, before we got the official ones.
I'm more confused by Terra-Xehanort and Young Xehanort aren't Rank 5 and 6
Nice vid! Can never have enough Xehanort content lol
I personally would have loved if Nomura had explored the Real Organization XIII more in KH3. The concept of “norting,” despite all our jokes, has genuinely terrifying implications. I would have loved if we had seen instances of the members occasionally losing control of their own identities/personas as Xehanort’s heart corroded their own. They are very much like Replicants from “Blade Runner” (hence why Rutger Hauer’s casting was clever lol). I think it would have been great if we’d seen a few instances of the Nobodies slowly realizing (bc of their link to Xehanort) the terrible fate that awaited them-and being openly afraid of it (bc of their heart) but also powerless to resist (bc of his). This would have added dramatic irony/depth to the story, where we as audience members would be aware that the O13 are victims just like Aqua and Ven, and it would have foreshadowed their final monologues (and made them even more heartbreaking lol).
I feel bad for Nomura when I hear people saying KH3’s story is bad. I find that it actually has a very strong story; it’s just a little under-written and the truly interesting stuff is happening offscreen (the Organization betrayals, Riku/Mickey in Realm of D, etc). I am hoping for a main story update someday. With just a little more expansion, KH3’s story could really shine. And I’d love for Nomura to ask Nojima to assist. KH3 has many great ideas, and Nomura said he had a hard time interweaving all the different plot points. As we’ll see this April, that’s a Kazushige Nojima specialty lol When Nomura has a co-writer who knows how to bring the nuances of his stories to the forefront of the main scenario, that’s when KH can hit that magical sweet-spot that few other series can.
Looking forward to the next vid. Keep up the great work, and above all stay safe!
HMK: ethereal blades
Me: lightsabers
Finally, a video that actually hits at the HEART of this national emergency.
Xion: The Empty Puppet
Young Xehanort: The Pasts Darkness
Vanitas: Lights Darkness
Dark Riku: The Longful Replica
Terra Xehanort: The Fading Light
Xehanort: The Mastermind
Note: Saix has power over pain and Marluxia has power over death.
Just one question; why'd they abandon the Castle That Never Was?
Because it crumble at the of dream drop distance
@@charryforce I don't remember that happening.
Lawrence Gist Yeah that never happened.
It could be that they just simply stayed at the Keyblade Graveyard as that is where their goal is occur.
Probably tech limitations. The Castle itself is massive, then when you add the Dark City on top of that-easily San Fransokyo’s size-the console might explode lol
I was sad not to see it again, though. ReMind’s Garden of Assemblage floor and wall textures are a hint to what the Castle would have looked like in Unreal, and it’s very cool.
@@marcoa6319 It's a barren wasteland! There's no lab for Young Xehanort, Dark Riku, and Vexen to finalize Xion. The Organization would've had a budget of zero! Where did they sleep?
There are so many important characters in the that has so much bigger important in the story, it makes me wonder how they even got into a group like O.13.
*Like Luxord & the Union X characters.* They all have goals that doesn't go along with the Organization. Even when they were brought back to life, they STILL join the organization for some godforsaken reason.
Because Xehanort needed them for the creation of the X-Blade. Despite their individual roles or motives, Master Xehanort remained the biggest influence until the end. I mean, who could stand against him when even Luxu couldn't take No Name back from him?
You should totally make a top 13 seekers of darkness video. That’d be HYPE
3:42 - It's implied that originally, before recovering in Montropolis, that Vanitas used one of the replicas to appear in the World That Never Was, but thanks to Randal he was able to reconstruct his heart & body of darkness, and that his was either used by Xion(Hence why she's No. XIII, while he's No. XI) or that it was the one that ended-up serving as Roxas' new vessel(Since it appeared before Ventus was awoken, and Demyx only acquired the Vessel for Namine after Repliku was removed from it. Demyx also specifies this one is "another" replica and tells RIku "I've done this before" while pointing his thumb at himself).
Out of the 11 that showed-up during Dream Drop Distance, only 5 of them are confirmed to be from the past: Vanitas, Repliku, Ansem, Xemnas, & YMX, out of the 20 vessels. Considering those 5, Sora, & Xehanort, there were 6 people that weren't using replicas: Luxord, Marluxia, Larxene, Xigbar, & Saix, at least. From there, the fact they were using replicas, which Vexen states in Secret Report 7 that the majority of the 20 were initially failures but in Secret Report 8 he states that Xemnas ordered him to refine the remaining 18, one might suspect Vexen is the missing 11/13th person.
But, it might've actually have been Demyx, hence why he told Larxene he got benched and that one of Vexen's replicas stole his spot(AKA; Xion).
5:19 - According to Master Xehanort, at least. Considering the fact that Terra's Heart emerged from the Guardian before being purified, it seems more likely that his Soul/Mind was still trapped in his armor as Lingering Will, and since we saw it get destroyed, that might genuinely be what was wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I swear Numora actually commented his Soul was still missing. It would make sense that Xemnas had the Mind/Soul of Xehanort & Terra's Body & Heart, since Ansem is XEHANORT's Heartless, and seemingly MX removing his heart to take Terra's was the initial destruction of his body. Thus only upon Xemnas destruction's was Xehanort able to be re-completed while Terra's Heart & Body, which were effectively together the entire time, emerged while Terra Soul/Mind was still trapped inside Lingering Will.
5:44- In case it was still unclear, Rank is indeed determined by Numbers, but Numbers are initially determined by Order of entry into the Organization, from there with a fallen Number everyone below goes up a Rank. Vexen flouting his Rank is partially him reminding those below him that he has seniority, might also explain the "Don't tell me I don't respect my elders" bit from Axel in GBA's CoM(What would it matter if they don't age?). With Vexen, Lexaeus, & Zexion destroyed, Saix essentially became the new Number 4, Zexion would've still outranked Saix if Axel hadn't convinced Repliku to off him, hence why he said, "I moved things along just the way you wanted... At least for now" & why Vexen in Secret Report 7 states, "Though younger than me, he'd risen to become Xemnas's right-hand" , from there that would explain part of Saix & Lea's conversation at The Twilight Clock-tower, "I helped you rise up the ranks, so I hope it paid off" .
Xigbar told us that Xemnas & Xehanort formed the Organization and Luxord also alludes to this in Re:Mind, but like Vanitas, all Ansem needs is a version of himself to appear there. IF the heart of a Pureblood can be stated to go anywhere while the Nobody is still in one piece, it would probably be the Realm of Sleep & Xemnas makes frequent visits to the Chamber of Sleep, plus Ansem Reports XI-XIII & Ansem's interaction with Ansem the Wise in the Realm of Darkness confirm he was the one who retained his memories, combine this with both Ansem & Xehanort having the same philosophy towards the heart's true nature and it's hard to argue Ansem & Xehanort aren't *effectively* the same entity, hence MX is No. I, Ansem No. 2, & Xemnas No. 3.
Xigbar gave Luxord his order to search for the Box, passing it off as Xemnas' Order, implying Xigbar out-ranked Luxord. Larxene was eliminated before Marluxia, so she's had more time to be initially re-completed and forsake her humanity, that's my best guess, at the very least. Jumping off of that, Saix was last after Xemnas to fade, Terra-Nort was mentioned in Dream Drop Distance as one of the two on Mickey's list of himself, Riku, Sora, and his three missing friends that, "belong to me now", so it must've been acquired before Repliku joined. Vanitas, MX's former apprentice, would've been a far more obvious choice than YMX and it wasn't until the meeting in Re: Mind that Xion came-up, since that happened right after failing to get Sora.
It's messy, but there's enough in it to make sense, even if they really were completely chosen at random. We could also point out how Saix began with Marluxia, Larxene & Luxord, it would make sense for the lower available Ranks to be sent out on missions first, and if Xemnas had Xehanort's Mind, it makes some sense for his Right & Left Hand Men from the Old Organization to be plotting with him, regardless of their official ranks. But the order of the members who returned to their time were Ansem(No. 2), Xemnas(No. 3), Vanitas(No. 11), Repliku(No. 10), & YMX(No. 12). However, my lying eyes show that Repliku only appeared alongside, but before, Xion & Vexen, so I almost have to wonder if the localization screwed the pooch and ruined the intended order of Numbers 2, 3, 11, & 12. That being said, it can't be ignored that Riku met Repliku in Prankster's Paradise wearing an Organization's Coat. So, sadly, this doesn't help further explain the order.
8:33- I know better than to tell you to calm down, but c'mon man, we get it, you want this to actually mean something instead of just being a coincidence. And it might be, but it also might not be.
RandomRamblin' Researcher Did the Real Org. used Xion’s past heart in her new body as part of their member?
@@marcoa6319
According to Saix, the Xion from the Keyblade Graveyard was made from the records left behind by Vexen. Which is to imply it's essentially a replica of Xion.
According to Repliku his heart and body are 'fake', which lead me to believe that just like a replica, their 'heart' is also made out of data. Repliku was able to sense Riku had changed when they reunited at the Twilight Mansion in CO. To me, that almost seems to imply that just like how the memories of a Nobody are on the other side of a 'somebodies' heart, Replicas are essentially the nobodies of the original.
After all, the data of them is necessary to act as a heart, their core, their essence, to give them shape.
As such, a replica of Xion is just as connected to the original as the original Xion is to Sora.
*So, my answer would be no.*
Xion's past heart was NOT put in the replica, it had Vexen's leftover data of Xion and a piece of Xehanort's Heart to forge one of the 13 pieces(As horribly as it's shown, even in Re:Mind).
Furthermore, the rules of, presumably, using the Power of Waking to time travel, outside of Sora's limited use, is that there needs to be another version of you waiting there. So unless you think that it only has to be on the same world, and therefore Sora qualified as another version, there are no time-travel-shenanigans going on with Xion. Same with Roxas & Terra.
RandomRamblin' Researcher Unfortunately, the kh3 ultimania states that Xion’s past heart was indeed used to house her new replica body.
But I do prefer your explanation.
I'm surprised you didn't mention about Young Xehanort's original weapons in Birth By Sleep, the energy blades he has during his very annoying boss battle.
Ethereal blades. And I think nomura only had him use them to hint at his relation with xemnas and as a result, xehanort.
4:50 You forgot to include Earth as well, as he uses Earth based attacks in Birth by Sleep.
Nah that’s more what Terra has access to since he uses your own commands in BBS. His earth attacks were replaced by dark attacks in every other fight against him. The Earth element was always Lexaeus
@@Kro-RissaVirus He also uses Earth attacks in the Final Episode fight (against Aqua).
13. The Lost Light: Xion
12. The Wonder of Time: Young Xehanort
11. The Empty Shadow: Vanitas
10. The Mirror Warrior: Dark Riku
9. The Fallen Champion: Terra-Xehanort
8. The Lunar Diviner: Saix
7.The Graceful Assassin: Marluxia
6. The Savage Nymph: Larxene
5. The Gambler of Fate: Luxord
4. The Free Shooter: Xigbar
3. The Superior of The In-Between: Xemnas
2. The Seeker of Darkness: Ansem
1. The Master of Chaos and Destruction: Master Xehanort
8:13 HMK Your mind is so dang amazing, I didn’t even realize this!!
I thought that when master xehanort returned he was just a heart that created a shell that looked like his old self. My reasoning was always what happened to Sora in KH1 where he and roxas coexisted thus Sora was just a heart who had a shell that looked like his former self thanks to kairi's light reverting his heartless form. Guess I was wrong?
I expected this ranking:
I. Master Xehanort
II. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness
III. Xemnas
IV. Young Xehanort
V. Terra-Xehanort
VI. Xigbar
VII. Saix
VIII. Marluxia
IX. Larxene
X. Luxord
XI. Vanitas
XII. Dark Riku
XIII. Xion
Wrong rankings
The Luxord part is wild 😱
HMK you truly are the bees knees
This makes no sense....
So Dark Riku a higher rank than Young Xehanort??? Larxene a higher rank than Marluxia??? Marluxia a higher rank than Saïx??? gtfoh
The reason why Dark Riku was at a higher rank than Young Xehanort is because Riku can go through the Door to Darkness without fear and without the cloak like Young Xehanort as seen in the beginning of ReMind.
Moonchild34 When do they ever say Dark Riku is a higher rank?
I like learning more about the organization
The Organization's numbers are NOT rankings. In the original Organization, the numbers were the order in which they joined. That's why Saix was Xemnas' second in command despite not being #2 and why Marluxia was given command of half the group despite being #11. The numbers in the new Organization are also not ranks, because Saix remained in a high position despite going down in number. The numbers don't seem to correspond to join order, since that would mean Young Xehanort should be as high as #1 depending on your point of view. They also don't correspond to similarity to Master Xehanort, since Ansem and Xemnas are close in number to Master Xehanort while Young Xehanort and Terra-Xehanort, both of whom ARE Master Xehanort, are all the way at the other end of the numbers.
Vexen and Demyx are crying
Does anybody else think it's kind of sweet that Saix got the rank of number eight, which just so happened to be Axel's number when he was in the Organization?
LOVE this video!!!! Can't wait for more!!!
Keyblades are just magic wands that can change form
I've been recently thinking, wouldn't it have been better for Xehanort that instead of retaining his old original form, turned himself back into Terra-Xehanort and have Demyx filling the missing spot?
I mean, Terra-Xehanort proved to be stronger than Master Xehanort storywise. So imagine Terra-Xehanort being both the Organization's leader, and the χ-blade's wielder.
Uh, Master Xehanort is not a pushover despite being old. I can say that he actually got more OP abilities as an old man rather than Terra-Xehanort.
Also, the only reason Master Xehanort needed to possess Terra's body back in Birth by Sleep was so he could live much longer to see his original plan to create the x-blade succeed. That plan obviously fails due to Terra's heart actively rebelling against him.
Once he came back following Ansem and Xemnas' destruction (which happened 10 years after he took over Terra's body), he didn't need to do it again because he already knew that possessing Terra's body a second time proved too much of a risk.
Young Xehanort number 12 even though he’s canonically one of the strongest of all the seekers along with Terra-Xehanort.
I damn near had an aneurism trying to understand Dark Rikus story
Let the heart be your guiding key.
Giving Xion, Namine, and Roxas all their own bodies is waaay too silly for me.
Didn't Nomura confirm in an interview that he doesn't want to number the new organization?
Yes but he ended up doing it because of the data room.
10:19 Ummmm are you sure that's his Nobody? I meaaaaan personally thought Luxu reformed. Kinda weird that the Foreteller are talking to *"Luxu's Nobody"*
He couldn't serve as a vessel if he wasn't technically a husk. He and Saïx had to be turned back into nobodies after reemerging. Remember, Xehanort's Organization and the summoning of Kingdom Hearts was essential in Luxu's role. Luxu/Xigbar doesn't require to be human to complete it, he just needs to be conscious when the box reappears and when No Name loses its former master.
Considering how the original ranking was made, I prefer that the true rankings of the organization members are
1:Xehanort
2:Vanitas
3:Xigbar
4:Terranort
5:Ansem
6:Xemnas
7:Young Xehanort
8:Saix
9:Luxord
10:Marluxia
11:Larxene
12:Repliku
13:Xion
Reason why ansem and xemnas were ranked that way was because despite being the nobles and heartless of Xehanort, they originated from Terra.
But Master Xehanort has a title: Keyblademaster ! :D
Even though the story is convoluted af, the organization is actually far from a pure evil bunch of villains. I love all of these characters.
Did the Real Org. used Xion’s past heart in her new body as part of their member?
Young Xehanort and Dark Riku were conducting experiments on how to create hearts and put them in a vessel. Xion was recreated from the data on No. I from her previous time existing. Saïx had Vexen implant memories related to Axel and Roxas in the new Xion. However, her true heart and memories were released from Roxas's heart, thua giving her a true existence
Luxord the man of theory
I wonder when we will see the other organization members recompleted
All moments of Organization 13 were cool and I will miss them, all of them. The battle themes, the normal themes, Xemnas awesome earorgasm voice. But I'm looking forward to the new things we get in KH4.
Such a great video HMK!
I can understand Xemnas not being at #1 anymore, since Master Xehanort returned. But how the hell did he go below Ansem!?!
Xemnas is still one of the STRONGEST members in the Organnization! Old and new! Ansem being more powerful then Xemnas? Bullshit. But that's just what I think. Good video HMK! Loved it!
Because Ansem is the heart of Xehanort which makes him the closet to Xehanort. It was explained by Nomura awhile back.
@@KHDecoder Oh. Cause if was strength, I was gonna say Nomura's wrong lol
@@KHDecoder if that's the case, terra-nort and young xehanort should be higher in rank too?
Here we go! *dives in*
Xemnas's real name is Mansex
Was lauriam confirmed to be marluxia’s somebody?
I'd argue Ansem does have a weapon. Several of his attacks resemble Orbitars from Kid Icarus Uprising.
Yeah, he uses dark spheres. Ansem used a sphere to destroy Destiny Islands and countless other worlds in KH1, a giant sphere is his ultimate DM in KH1 World Of Chaos Ansem, Ansem's dark lasers in World Of Chaos are also just the electrically charged spheres. In a RECOM cutscene, Ansem throws a dark sphere at Riku, Ansem also uses the spheres again as mega lasers, the fission firaga attack, and as giant bowling balls. By KH3, he uses the dark lasers again, can use the dark lasers to charge towards the opponent or as laser barrier, can use the spheres to spit dark firagas flames at you, use fission firaga again, an orbiter DM, and dark bowling balls return.
3:38 wait I thought the universe put his heart back together.
You know I’m honestly really surprised that xemnas is at number 3 and ansem at number 2. Kind of thought it would’ve been the other way around. Here’s how I personally would’ve ranked the orginazation members.
1. Master Xehanort
2. Xemnas
3. Ansem
4. Young Xehanort
5. Terra-Xehanort
6. Vanitas
7. Braig
8. Saix
9. Marluxia
10. Larxene
11. Luxord
12. Dark Riku
13. Xion
I know this ranking might seem a bit janky but at least master Xehanort and xion remain in the same spots. Just giving the different Xehanorts more priority.
The reason why Dark Riku was at a higher rank than Young Xehanort is because Riku can go through the Door to Darkness without fear(KH 1) and without the cloak like Young Xehanort as seen in the beginning of ReMind.
Moonchild34 guess you’re right about that.
So are they all possessed by xenhort? That's what confuses me xenhort keeps saying he wants to place his heart in all the members but those dark welders? I don't get it
I still think we haven't seen the true Organization tbh. Honestly, I think Sora and co will be the true Organization when they eventually square up against the Foretellers, Luxu, and the Master
Gats T Very likely. Based on what I've seen in the box art, it'll be the Destiny Trio, the Disney Trio, the Wayfinder Trio, the Sea-salt Trio, and Namine.
yungbreezy36 Just my take and my opinion. You don't have to agree with me but don't go bashing me.
this is such an awesome video I think and truly amazing how each of the new organisation members are ranked. when I saw this for the first time in limit cut I was trull blown away. especially with luxord being at number 5. I really like the explanation you gave for him. he certain is the most interesting character from the new organisation right now isn't it?
Well ansem his element is darkness and ice because the big orbs he generates if he hits you probably going freezed
Which members are who when they all met at the crossroads before master xehanort made the labyrinth?
I feel like Luxord real name is Lourd
No. I + X
HMK am a fan of thegamersjoint and it's been almost 2 mouths since he made a video and us fans of his are worried about him can you text him to ask if he s ok cause us fans are worried pls man its just a favor
They could have give each one a title on the data book
so all the people in organization Xlll died and then turned into nobodies technically. some did just get defeated yes but they still turned into nobodies and came back to life for the next game??? correct me if I'm wrong please.
What did the trifles was Fused and to the master sword
Will you do a weakest to strongest members of the real organization 13?
My favorite part was about Luxord.
I thought Marluxia's element was Death? Hence the Scythe? And Doom counter?
there's something I've been wondering about lately...since xigbar survived doesn't that mean part of xehanort still around??
I think that part died when we witnessed a stream of darkness exited Xigbar during his "death" scene
Yo i REALLY wanna be able to fight the foretellers eventually
The old O13 ranks was based on the time they joined so if the new O13 is the same then larxene shouldnt be higher than marluxia seeing that in both O13 she joined because of marluxia.
**sees thumbnail**
no. YX's smug, immature ass *does not* deserve to be in front of ansem and xemnas. I will never accept it.
Is Cynical doing alright?
And that's crazy how replicu places higher than Young Xehanort.
i was asking theeee same thingggg
Damn I'm still confuse about there ranks, so it isn't?
I. Master Xehanort
II. Xemnas
III. Ansem
IV. Xigbar
V. Dark Riku
VI. Vanitas
VII. Saïx
VIII. Luxord
IX. Marluxia
X. Larxene
XI. Xion
XII. Young Xehanort
XIII. Terranort
Nope, the ranks are as followed in the video
@@HMK thanks
Why didn't Terranort age? He should have aged...I get the loopholes you want to jump through to not make Ven and Aqua age, but Terra should be in his 30's
What happened to demyx though?
Isn't soul eater a keyblade?
I am confused with why dark riku is placed as rank 10 as in wiki he takes demyx place and saix demoting to rank 8.
Andrew Sung demyx was number 9
I know but wiki said dark riku takes demyx's place sp dould he be rank 9?
Dude theres a fangame called super smash flash 2 it has sora you need tonplay it
Wait, saix was a double agent? When was that revealed? How did he help roxas and xion?
In remind roxas points at saix and tells xenmas there were traitors in his organization (Xenmas did not know he was pointing behind him) He also, kept repeating axel and roxas to help xion remember , he always calls axel, lea too,
Plus there were hints with Vexen’s talk with Demyx and the secret reports.
Isn't Xehanort real name is No Heart?
Xehanort can be an Anagram of No Heart and Another but those are just Anagrams, his real name is still Xehanort
I still don't buy the idea that Saix was trying to help bring Roxas and Xion back
Read the secret reports play Remind and Vexen confirms it
@@HMK Where? I'm looking at secret reports 7 and 8 right now and I don't see it. Have also watched the cutscenes of Remind several times and see no evidence for it besides that Saix says the names "Roxas" and "Axel" in front of Xion, which I do not think he did on purpose.
@@yungbreezy36 I still see no reason to think that it was any more than the writers' way to show that she still had some memory of Roxas and Axel in her
Hearing a lot of repeats over and over again
I love all organization it’s my favorite in the series