GH5 vs Canon C100 Footage! Image Quality Comparison
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2019
- The Canon C100, a legacy indie camera compared to versatile Panasonic Lumix GH5. How does the image quality compare?
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Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate how you don’t waste any time in your videos, most people nowadays drag out their videos and you don’t seem to do that and that’s why you’re my favorite
Aw Thanks Chris! That’s been the root goal of my channel. I know what it’s like being a viewer on UA-cam, so I make the content I want to see
I just bought a C100 Mark II about 3 weeks ago & look forward to your videos in April!!
Awesome! I think the mark ii solves the main issues I have with the mark i, but I’m planning to sell mine. I think the dream setup would be a C200!
Nate's Film Tutorials I agree & I’m headed for a C200, the C100m2 is my learning step. I shoot a lot of nature & wildlife & have already ran into an issue with the new camera. 8 bit banding in a clear blue sky gradient is driving my nuts, ha!
Nice comparison between the two. I think the C100's AVCHD holds up pretty well and it's standard profile looked a lot nicer than the Gh5's cinelike d.
Definitely pushing me in to the GH5S realm as for a lot of the events I cover, I worry about the ISO performance of the GH5.
I'd love to see a video using both these cameras in an interview style setup with one as a wide and one as a close up.
Great suggestion. It does hold up! For ISO, I found while the C100 can go higher it’s not as detailed as the G7 or GH5. I may put out an ISO test, just for that.
@@NatesFilmTutorials Now that is something that no-one has said before. 95% of the time when shooting with my C100 it's going into an atomos and retains about 1/3 stop more dynamic range and sharpness in the image. The knowledge that the GH5 also does that is very interesting. Looking forward to seeing the results!
Great lighting job in your room and nice video.
Thanks
What microfone did you used in this video?
Going the post every week day! Do you have any questions or topic ideas? Let me know!
Which camera would you use to record 2 hour long lectures in a church or school often with low lighting.? Would the Panasonic overheat?
I’ve never had the Panasonic overheat. If recording lectures is 90% of what you do. Go for the C100. If you do a variety of content I’d go with the GH5
Thanks so much
What one was "B"? Never did stay?
Nice video Nate 👌
Thanks!
Thanks,it's useful
Nice video! what lut did you use for the c100?
For this test I used the same VLog L conversion LUT by Joo.works (it’s free) Then I tweaked my exposure and saturation to match.
I love my c100 mark II. I have been using it as my A cam for weddings and events. I also use a GH4 for a B cam the two match up well using Wide DR on the c100 and CINE D on the GH4. I just ordered a GH5S to replace the GH4 as my b cam. In the future depending on how the GH5s does I may make it my new main camera and add a GH5 as a backup camera. What are your thoughts on the GH5s?
I don’t have hands on experience with the GH5s. But based on my use with the GH5 I could see having both would be an excellent pairing.
@@NatesFilmTutorials it just came in today and I am in love with it
That’s awesome! 😎
Grifster, how do you find the GH5S compared with the C100 II? In terms of image quality, colour science, dynamic range, file robustness for grading, highlight rolloff etc? Is it enough of a step up from the GH4? Will it be your new A cam?
@@raksh9 I haven't done any side by side comparisons just yet. That being said I did use them both to shoot a music promo and wedding. After these two jobs I am leaning more towards the GH5S becoming my a cam. As far as compared to the GH4 it is definitely worth the upgrade. The things that I do still love about my c100 is the auto focus and the built in nd filters both come in really handy when shooting weddings. I will be adding more about the both of them on my channel in the future.
You have filmmaking followers in Mexico. Question: What is the best zoom lens for doc-style run-and-gun with the GH5? Would you go Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 or Canon 24-70mm f/2.8?
Great question! I’ll include this in my Q&A! I’d lean towards the Sigma.
I use the Canon 24-70 f2.8. But to be honest Id say you're much better off with the Canon 24-105 f4.0 due to its built in image stabilisation and the fact that f2.8 is too shallow for run and gun work anyway.
@@skatepark02 the Canon 17-55mm ef-s, f2.8 and stabilized.
Have you watched cartel land. It was filmed mostly with that lens and a Canon c300.
I’d like to see a video explaining native ISO, all my research has been inconclusive and you know what you’re talking about
Awesome, I’ll answer a bunch of questions on Friday. Filmmaker IQ has a good video explaining ISO and Dynamic Range. Highly recommend his channel
We're still using c100's for all our short films along with some dslrs like the 700d and no plan on changing haha
It’s a great camera!
Still rocking canon rebels and M series :)
Could you compare the c100 and the Canon 700D? I own the 700D but I was planning buying the c100 but your message sounds like they kind of match? I wanted an upgrade.
When I tested the C100 and compared it to the T3i which is pretty close to the 700D. The C100 is better across the board.
Sharper, more dynamic range and low light. But the C100 is an older camera and newer cameras give you better quality. Something to consider even though the c100 has some great video features
do you have an external recorder for the C100? I would say it adds a lot to record in 8-bit 4:2:2
It actually records 10bit :)
@@emsvisuals yes but as far as I know the c100 only outputs an 8 bit 422 signal so it doesn't really count.
@@stefanthorndahl1666 It's 10bit in most recorders, but c100 only outputs 8bit 422 PsF so it's 8bit wrapped in 10bits. Using an external recorder, you gain about 1/3-1/4 stop more DR, it's not all that much and doesn't make a huge difference in the final image... but Prores/DNX are better codecs than AVCHD so it retains more data in the final output. That's the real advantage.
The c100 just seemed out of focus in the studio shots? Good luck on your april video race, as a suggestion i challenge you: set-up a 'pro' studio/interview setup from scratch within 2 minutes from touching the first gear to hitting the record button!
Thanks for the suggestion! I did something similar for a film setup in 5 minutes. 2 minutes is not a whole lot of time. Haha
I still use c100's a lot. In my testing, vs most of the other Canon DSLR bodies, the footage is far better. I also find, shooting 1080 on most other Canon DSLR bodies seems to be hobbled vs the AVCHD off the c100. Best results: c-log and sharpen in post. I have a feeling that Canon hobbles it's 1080 in DSLR bodies to make their 4k appear better. When putting up a 1080 image and upscaling against a 4k image, the 4k image is always going to yield more sharpness due to the amount of information. However, in down scaling to 1080 vs native 1080 on the c100, people have never complained and the smaller file sizes are a massive advantage in post. I also find, when downscaling to 4k, if the codec is weak, the strong codec of the c100 shows it's merits. When you put the Sony F3 against a lot of 4k cameras with a weaker codec, even the in-body 35mbit codec absolutely blows them out of the water due to the increased dynamic range. The F3 vs the c100 is no contest, it completely destroys it. When shooting F3 with an external recorder, at 4:4:4 10bit, the 1080 image looks far better than images I've been able to achieve out of most 4k DSLRs sans RAW. The massive 14 stops of dynamic range is more important than resolution imho, and yields an absolutely stellar image when upscaled to 2.7k (for projection) or 4k for TV. Absolutely nuts the image you can get today when you consider the cost, especially with the flood of DSLR bodies with hobbled footage vs the cost of cinema grade cameras. c100 mkI /w DPAF update can be found for as low as $850 if you hunt, the F3 can be found for as low as $700 if you really look+$400 for an external recorder that does RAW/ARRIRAW/Prores/DNXHD conversion directly in the recorder.
Intrigued by the F3 now, I'll have to so my research. Thanks for sharing! :)
@@NatesFilmTutorials Sure. If you have any F3 questions, feel free to email. They are fantastic cameras. A hidden gem. Every DP I know out there who has used one sings praise of the image you can get out of it. I know multiple DPs who, when they started to get unloaded for fs7 and dropped in price to $500 were buying 2 at a time. The history of the camera is a weird one. To sum it up quickly as possible, basically, Sony worked with Panasonic to develop the Genesis in the alliance. That alliance broke, and Sony developed the F35, bringing along all the developments from the Genesis. The Cinealta line was 2/3 sensor before that, and didn't move to S35 until the F35 came out. In their efforts to develop a lower cost ($25k) cinema body, their team used body tech from the EX series camcorders and combined it with the backplane of the F35 to reduce cost. This resulted in a camera that has characteristics of the Genesis/F35/Arri. Sony realized that the camera was too good and would water down furthering their Cinealta line, so they quickly swept it under the rug and chopped off all further firmware updates pushing the f5 and fs5 to the front. F3 was supposed to receive a 2.7k/4k update but didn't so that it wouldn't impede the sales of f5/fs5. I know a number of people who purchased fs700s to go 4k and instantly regretted it vs the 1080 F3. All of which have reduced dynamic range and IQ by comparison. F3 appeared, then quickly disappeared within the span of 2 years due to this. Anyone who has owned or used one though will tell you that the image rivals that of Arri when used with an external recorder and is absolutely one of if not the best 1080 cameras ever made due to the cost ratio. Now we have Blackmagic, so vs some newer cameras it is starting to show it's age, however I don't hesitate to shoot F3 for many projects, even ones that require scaling to projection. I didn't renew my lease on the Varicam, because F3 frankly sees more use.
@@pressreset I appreciate the info. Ive been in the market for a new camera. Ive been torn between the fuji xt3 and the f3. I love the color science of both but the f3 isnt as practical for the work that I do.
nice comparison... I love my GH5!
Brian Rogers thanks! So versatile!
I would buy the lut you created for the gh5 to match the c log. My holy Grail.
Haha that’s good to know! Do you like grading C Log?
maybe use a adapter to mount the 18-35 to the c100..using diff lenses makes no sense in a comparison like this:-) Thanks for taking the time to make this tho
You’re right, ideally I would have the same lens setup on each so the b roll was shot with the same 18-35mm lens. But for the side by side, I needed to use the next best thing.
I’m thinking about getting the c100 now instead of my S1. The one is great but I love the canon color so much
Nice! I might steer you towards one of the recent canon cameras, maybe wait and see what the C50 is like. The C100 is great, but it is getting old, and wouldn’t hold up as nice as the S1
@@NatesFilmTutorials thanks for the advice. Really appreciate it
you should test out Camcorder Canon XF400 4K. $2,500
Oh just a few. Lol. Cinematic B Roll of product shots with gimbal or without. Lighting for 2 person interview. Ooooohhh balancing a gimbal. What’s the best lens to have on a camera while on a gimbal. Just a few off the top of my head. LOL. Thanks Nate! Got in my Sigma 18-35, what a beaut! I’m keeping her!! Yep. She’s a chick.
That’s why it’s everyone favorite! Great suggestions! Feel free to ask any questions. I plan on doing a Q&A on Friday.
Sitting on the TV watching the couch?
I was sitting on the tv watching the couch
I’m confused
So I sit on the TV watching the couch.
Kylo Salvesen LoL there used to be a college commercial, started with. “ so your sitting on the couch watching tv and your life’s passing you by...” but we said it that way. It’s sort of an inside joke in my family
B GH5
Yep!
He sits under good light and compares 2 cameras with totally different capabilities. GH5 sucks heavily when shooting in bad light conditions whatever lens you put on it. Whereas C100 can shoot anywhere and much better independently of lenses and ISO. GH5 has virtually no autofocus...that's just a toy with some parameters.
Salt
If you run out of ideas for daily content, would like to see short film on some other hobby or interest you have besides filmmaking.
Hey that's a great idea! I'll think about it
sell me the c100.. you're not using it lol
ARE YOU STILL LOOKING TO BUY C100?
c100ii smokes the GH5 in image quality. Confirmed this on a recent shoot. At higher ISOs the GH5 image starts to apply heavy noise reduction which muddies the image.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing Brett!
A is C100 because of camera shake
Canon has something
Stopped watching after GH5 shot in 4K. Speed booster more$$$