"Creative Freedom"
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Join me as I go through anime like Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 (including the Blu-Ray), Ufotable shows such as the Fate series, and more in an attempt to unpack what visual creativity is.
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good video
Thank you so much
good animations
I don't think anime fans will ever learn to distinguish facts from opinions.
2:36 YEAH thats the point mindless mobs needs to understand.
The never pause naruto memes did irreparable damage to how animation is conceived in general
Ong, I saw someone take a frame of mahoraga being distorted and tried to make fun of people calling the animation peak. Like what? It's supposed to be in motion and not a picture. Makes no sense.
6:25 That clip of the Pluto before and after kills me everytime
Ik it looked so much better without the special effects
It upsets me whenever I think about it
I can tell why the artist was pissed about it
@@egsir Damn I didn't know the artist said anything about it. Makes it more tragic
@@IAMA1 yeah the artist was ranting about it on twitter
yea i kinda lose my mind when i see a godlike sequence from akihiro ota in one piece and read a few comment like "why is the animation so bad" "they dont have the budget to draw straight lines" and etc.
also should add on now that ive finished the video, great video as always, feel like I learn atleast 1 new thing from your videos if not more, thankyou.
Just like my teachers says: "art is an expression of freedom".
It's very true. Look at any 3rd world country. Little to no Art, little to no Freedom. =\
I can confirm that it's nice to be able to create something without being brought before the entire village and stoned/beaten.
My little hand-drawn avatar is what they call a "Graven Image", but I live in America now, so I get to not give a flip. ^^
Thus everyone wants to suppress it. Cause the definition of freedom is different for everyone and people just don't seem to get it.
Not in Animation, unfortunetly
sure but sometimes too much freedom can be messy just like this blue ray version...its inconsistent as a media ....as a pure art its brilliant though.
When it’s not for a grade
More likes than views that's how peak this video is
My favourite type of animation is wheen everything looks so clean but EASY to follow. When the camera is shaking like crazy and i can barely follow whats happening the fight scene loses me.
yeah that was choso vs yuji
@@DP-mv7phyou may need to rewatch the video and understand his point. lol. Jjk didn’t have those issues. The fight was supposed to feel claustrophobic. It’s in a bathroom and was pretty clear for all they did. Do you prefer a boring stiff limited camera fight this guy on this end repeat attacks hype special effect lightning next guy attacks? Did you find pain fight bad. Well doesn’t matter all opinions so it’s ok as long as you don’t think it’s objectively bad.
@@nichescenesi agree but his short comment didnt warrant all that yapping sir
@@lunarluxe9832 82 words is too much for gen z, my goodness. I don't use twitter or tiktok next time ill use....opps you didn't read this far :(
My man woke up and chose to speak facts
Hey
Can you make a video on Gintama? About storyline to be specific
Btw Nice video as always❤
I agree with this so damn hard
It's really annoying when people look at stuff like Vinland Saga and say " it looks boring and doesn't have colour " when it's a series that doesn't need it at all ( and honestly has more colour in it than those people give it credit for )
Would much rather that we have so many different shows with so many different styles, rather than every show just have the same style
5:36 Can anybody tell me , who is that certain animator??
I saw the tweet when people were talking about it. I'll give the name if I manage to find it.
I'm curious too
Zhang maybe?
@@seya_2 but didn't he only work on the opening of heavenly deluison, and I don't think he would say that tbh
@@raziengamer937 He worked on the show as well, but it definitely isn't zhang.
For me, it's better to have consistency than creativity. Either all episodes look like Mob Psycho 100 or like Fate. It can't be that one episode looks like Mob Psycho and the other looks like Fate.
Fate never been that creative.
They are using same style and technique over and over.
There's no differences
I've actually heard someone say they don't like Trigun Stampede just cause of CGI not because it looks bad but just cause it's CGI
When I first found out that naruto 167 was considered as "bad animation" I was shocked. Its absolutly one of my favourite fights from the show and a contender for my favourite of all time.
Amazing video as always!!
This is honestly such an amazing video. It's everything I think about and more not just in the animation medium, but in all art mediums.
Great video, great points.
The Pain fight is strange, because something can be competent, but that does not mean it's a good choice for the scene that it is used. Good animation can hurt the quality of an anime, which I would argue is the case in Naruto. So, when I say that the Pain fight is bad, I'm not referring to the animation, but the creative choice. Now that is obviously applies to the show, and not the actually animation which is excellent. And you do go into that, so that is fair, and it's obviously subjective whether something is good or bad, although I agree that people calling it bad animation aren't articulating what their issues with that episode very well.
could u explain more indepthly why it was a bad creative choice
I think it was a pretty good fit to show the chaos of the 8 tails (I think it was 8 tails idk remember)
@@MagnusReardon I feel like it is quite obvious. It feels way different compared to the rest of the show. I feel like the characters were Looney Tunes characters which does not fit Naruto for me personally, and I assume many others.
@@thomasffrench3639 The pain fight was supposed to be the clash of two ideologies and it was meant to be an extremely serious confrontation. Seeing the characters turn into looney toons ruined the experience for the general audience and they just termed it bad animation when it was anything but that.
@@thomasffrench3639I could go as far as to say that the creative choice fits SOME parts of the fight while not on some others. It fits while depicting the chaos of the 8 tails(also don’t remember) but not the loony toons running of Pain
@@kapilpal4864 You completely missed my point. Good job.
1:21 Hahahaha Go Hands I believe is on the topmost echelon of creativity
nah, they just try too hard to be appealing, and that's end being counterproductive(too distracting and confusing at times), but well, at least they restrained a lot in that anime.
@@loiscampos4553 props to them for not using every color and vfx at their disposal
How can't the people follow the Sukuna vs. Mahoraga fight lol, it's so easy
Sukuna is hitting Mahoraga, "OOHHH, You did something didn't you?" when Mahoraga's wheel turns, yknow, adapting? Usually someone from the old age would not know modern shenanigans, let alone Family Secrets that he won't be able to find out easily
So Mahoraga is new to him
So in his supposed theory, Mahoraga can adapt, HE TRIES TO SEE IF HE REALLY CAN ADAPT TO ANY AND ALL PHENOMENA
By lying to him 💀💀💀
You see those times where Sukuna makes moves but nothing happens? You're a spoiled kid if you've never been lied to or tricked, that's Sukuna feinting and watching Mahoraga, until Mahoraga himself adapted and learned to lie himself
Mahoraga shadow boxing while Sukuna is just pointing?
Mahoraga figured that's how he sends his Cursed Technique and is trying to let his own Fists reach the "nevertocome" slashes to adapt faster.
They be acting like that but when they see Tengen vs Gyutaro they go: "OMG THIS ANIMATION IS GOD TIER!" Even though NOTHING can be made out in that screaming part aside from slashes with intent to kill. The only reason it looked THAT good, is because Ufotable's composition team, without it Demon Slayer's animation would NOT have that charm.
Your editing has improved , nice stuff
Haters when they somehow can't distinguish animated drawings to drawings found in comics or manga or/and the like
Hi buddy I want to make u video on cgi anime like trigun,levius,blame, dorohedoro, idol master million live,d4dj all mix . Because this anime have solved the biggest problem of animating character in cgi anime , with them doing se well it's time we give them there recognition
Weilin Zhang released his SBs for a BD cut of JJK and they are so creative, the best part of an episode (imo) and it's a shame it didn't make it into an episode, 'cause it even hurt Vincent's cut
Sonny boy and tatami timemachine referenced letsgoooo
I used to despise the pain naruto fight, but now I can respect the creative decision to make it how it was. I still think the "my pain is far greater than yours" scene was executed really really poorly though
This is my favorite video of yours. Beautiful content.
This is my favourite of all your videos. Thank you very much
Yeah, this type of animation is not my thing but if people are enjoying it than who am i to complain 🤷♂️
Amazing video
Good video
Wonderful explanation!
Well said man 🔥
The video I want you to make ... 🥶
Nice work ✌
Hey I know it's too much work but if it's possible can you add the name of the anime whose clip is playing in your video.
Like on the bottom side.
There is on part in the time i was reincarnated as a slime in the season 3 intro that really triggers me she goes in the background but here head stays the same
as an animator and director-in-training this is an important video more people should watch
Indeed, every time I hear the words "the animation is good but the art is bad" or "the animation looks like it's fanmade" my braincells die, I'm not gonna claim that I'm a mega reliable source for animation, as I still have a lot I want to learn about it, however, I know enough to say that different doesn't mean bad.
Man I love you and it’s not even close 🙏😭❤️
Stand proud, you cooked. I loved your choice of clips throughout the video. very well chosen.
I haven't seen someone cook this good since the heien era - sukuna
Omg thank you for putting light on this. It's so annoying when people just don't understand
well said
Do Kaiju No. 8, one of the best anime intro animation I've seen personally, the animation is good and the gore and comedy is balanced, nice anime.
1:40 I dont know, maybe to actually put the original vision of the Mangaka in animation? Essential you should be consistent to the source as possible unless you have an superior method and reasoning behind it, or else its basically just filler episode materials going in conflict with the intended source material.
2:37 Its not about stopping at frames if the sequence of animation turns out bad (low details, a lot of perspective errors, proportion mistakes all over the place), which we know is due to limitation and time. What matters Is keeping things consistent and knowing when to break the rules. Even stylized art and some of the greatest stuff ever made follows rules of principle which has nothing with being "original". If the issue is "samey effect" then you can say the same about animes trying to be pretentious and "artsy". What matters in the end is the execution, and In the end every animators know the anime industry is just a job (important job) and not something you are putting in the art museum.
1. An adaptation while yes has to follow most of what the intended vision of the source material was, eventually some scenes will just inevitably be worse versions of the source material, coming up with creative compisitions, can avoid that, as for detail, "lack of detail" is a very loaded term as it implies that any lack of detail is bad when animators would disagree with you, using less line work doesn't constitute any less skill nor is it a worse approach as less lines to draw means more different drawings you can focus on which produces more movement, changing something from the source material is only that bad when it completely alters the story, jjk 16 and 17 having tons of added scenes doesn't change the course or impact of its story for example.
2. Consistency and inconsistency to an extent are both valid creative choices, however, it's all about *CONTEXT* , a scene can look "messy" and still have its appeal, if a scene looks more abstract and hard to understand, that's usually the point, if a scene looks grounded and on model, that is the point, going back to jjk, there's no point where any normal human in the univers of jjk could understand Mahoraga and Sukuna, so that should reflect in the animation, we are viewing this in the lense of a normal person looking at 2 incomprehensible gods destroying a city, of course to us it should look abstract and not easy to understand, in conclusion, a scene being having very different stylization or low detail isn't bad, it's fine to have a preference but to say everything needs to be followed by the source material isn't true, at all.
I love chainsawman anime style
Another video from someone with zero animation experience. I need to find a UA-cam channel based in reality if you think mahoraga’s fight scene wasn’t well animated. Video’s like this remind me that people don’t have standards anymore.
I recommend a language class instead because when TF did I say that?
Where tf did he say that? Bro is cursed fr.
Very truee
irrelevant but which anime do u think has "the" best animation? In my humble opinion CSM is deserving of this title
no disrespect but any Kyoto Animation anime is better also Cloverworks exist too
But Akira tho.
I love CSM style and think its one of the best but nothing can compete with Redline
Very subjective topic of course, but if you fancy Chainsaw Man's animation for it's life like fluidity... I think there's a couple better ones out there, like Hiroyuki Okiura's Jin Roh for example
@@3esa2003 I dont think you understand whats the difference between visuals and animation
The only thing I can hate about a series or a movie is its story and the way storytelling is done in the said medium. If story's good, all's good... if the story lacks substance, well... then... no matter how much they butter up the looks and feels and music etc, they can never make me love it.
And yeah, that Kaiju N° 8 characters designs looks ¿weird?, i don't say bland or basic, like solo leveling, but at the same time they are not appealing, but the animation is good and the story seems basic but interesting.
5:37
Can someone tell me what he’s referring to here? I’m a really big heavenly delusion fan and I wanna know what he’s talking about
probably an animator that was on the show expresses his opinions on ufo photography team.
please im BEGGING YOU talk about how haikyuus animation is goated PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAASE
your videos are such a pleasure to watch, the way you perceive and view and breakdown animation gives me extra viewpoints and appreciation! thank you!
W vid
Please what does a "Photography Team" imply in animation? It sounds like a mesh of multiple elements at once ( mostly shot Composition/direction, Effects animation and Background animation...?)
The compositing team, led by the DOP or director of photography.
They're not really involved in direction or any 2d animation. It's mostly colouring, digital effects, and properly mixing the 2d and 3d elements to make the final product.
Demon Slayer’s animation goes hard!!
Thoughts on Kaiju No.8 episode 1?
Man i recall this guy in Mal forum commenting that CSM's Anime was Soulless, and i was like, WTF man? are we seeing the same show? you can dislike the director's vision, but CSM was everything but soulless.
pretty sure he’s been praising CSM since episode 1 so idk what you’re talking about…
Psycho_goku his name was lol
@@cwega2463 I'm not talking about PP but some guy in Mal.
Is it targeted towards me lmao 🤣
Damn, great video
pick up a book lil bro
1st😁😁
As long as the tone of the show aligns with the creative aspect then it's fine.
This. This is what chainsawman hater fans need to read. Many of my non anime fans got into chainsawman cause it didn’t have all the usual anime stuff it felt mature they said and they didn’t have to feel embarrassed watching. That’s unfair but you know they’re not into anime so they have a lot of outsider looking in perceptions that it’s bad when it’s not.
😮who decided that?
Those who think Jujutsu kaisen season 2 had bad animation compared to Season 1 They need to check their eyes 👀 . Season 2 is much far better than Season 1 .
bro the whole video is about your own opinion and that opinion is not the "truth"
@@samiyaku4532no it’s not. Its animation quality is NOT subjective. What is subjective is your personal taste for different types and styles of animation. That’s what this video is about. Differentiating personal taste from something being objectively bad.
Jjk seosen 2 has better background animation and is more fluid but the art style is dog shit.
@@miftahuljannat3050calling the artsyle dogshit is a brain dead opinion
@@mixxwixx maybe dog shit is an exaggeration but season 1 and season 2 look like different shows 💀
plot twist: mappa ran out of time so they decided to draw the characters sloppily instead of nicely and well-proportioned but the fans think its "creativity".
True
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Nice
What is the anime at 1:39
Lupin III (2015) , that scene was animated by Shinya Ohira
what anime 2:03 ??? pls pls
uhmm when he says "lines are wobbly", its an animated sequence from kill bill, but right after it shows a clip from one piece
nice vid
Good video, the "creative freedom" crowd needs to be stopped.
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Speaking of creativity, i hate to say it but its only japan and well developed countries who can afford creativity. India is too busy earning their daily bread and butter and only has shitty movies and shows with the same formulaic approach which is opposite to japans uniqueness. Just felt like i had to say this
Bro where are you from 😭
I think you already have the answer, not that difficult to figure out
clearly india
clearly india
@@sayn4888 asked for confirmation. Really foreigners watch him, that's why he talks in english?
@@Ashutosh_1008bhai saare indians hindi nahi bolte
Akib ____
Yoh
😂Paiso taile 😂
This is my personal opinion, but I still think the way chainsaw man was directed was the wrong choice. I feel like what was good about the source material, was that through the chaos and craziness that the manga provides, there was an underlying, subtle depth to it that gave it substance. In the anime, that sublety is thrown out the window and makes the show seem much more shallow in comparison, while not capitilizing on what made the manga fun and crazy.
It was modeled after the direction of live action western films which inspire the mangaka of Chainsaw Man, Fujimoto. It doesn't get more fitting than that, Chainsaw S1 man is what Chainsaw Man S1 should have looked like.
@@spookytown7963 I still don't get how this is relevant at all. The source material is a manga first of all, and secondly they still couldve added cinema references without the show being directed that specific way. I know everyone gushes over scenes like aki brushing his teeth but I don't think they added anything to the show
@@xlament6926 nah
I love the way you juggle your words to sneak your way in and out on slandering multiple creative works, then put yourself on a moral high ground and create a video about "Creative Freedom." 😭
Like, he's the type of guy to diss your mom in front of the class, then tells you to respect other people's personal opinion and reminds you about what "criticism" is. 💀
Lmao, thank you this really made my day! 😂
1:21
I was completely onboard with the argument until studio GoHands entered the video.
Lets just agree creativity is a good thing unless you're studio GoHands.
One thing this video lacks is this question: when can we criticize a show’s artistic vision/style? If we have ways of pointing out when something is good, we should be able to point when something is bad. It cant always just be preference. A good opportunity to talk about this in your video was the characters design in kaji 8. Why do you dislike the designs? You might have some valid reasons or some reasons that are just preference.
8:19 Aren't you the same guy who was mocking people who liked Bleach TYBW lightning and composting. What happened between then and now. Are you Gigguk now doing a complete 180 of your opinion.
That's not the point the point with the actual lighting is that there's a lot of red hue's which is a color that can definitely ruin the clarity of a scene, next his complaint for the composite was the fact what it looked too much and didn't match what the foreground visual style was going for, the composite also had a way of obscuring the animation itself rather than working with it like the case with fate or demon slayer, he never said the show looked bad, just that it was overrated and not movie quality like bleach fans suggest.
@@itapproaches3484 That isn't my point. But that guy literally straight up mocked majority fans who liked that by saying that those who like it like staring in a light bulb.
And in this video he's pretending (pun intended) and trying to take the high moral ground by trying to show himself as someone who appreciates everything. But at the end of the day he's just a liar.
No bleach fan said cour 2 was movie quality.
@AnitaSingh-sq7ov He mocked the fans who get overly offended and call everyone "haters" whenever the show is criticized, I'm sorry but the vast majority of bleach fans claim that tybw is absolutely perfect when it comes to animation, of course I'm exaggerating, but the point still stands, in case like bleach it isn't a point of preference entirely, the show is well animated and competent but is heavily overrated
@@AnitaSingh-sq7ovthat was an obvious joke
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Anything that doesn't look like the "seasonal isekai with a twist with default color/comp" I count as creative
And one would think that will be easy, but man was it hard for 80% of new shows to not look like that...
Im still sad chansard isn't going back to mappa
i’m so happy he isn’t. he couldn’t even fully work at his full level on JJK. Toei at least gives him unlimited time essentially
@@cwega2463 One piece doesn't have a good schedule. Just the biggest animation studio of Japan and it's infinite wealth (as for now, Chansard is the most paid in-house animator in Japan, with an over 100K annual wage)
Also thanks to One piece itself; being one of the most popular anime in the world Is bound to attract literally everyone to work on It
@@lorenzorizzi864 i know. i never said Toei was a perfect studio to work for in terms of in house animators. they’re certainly better than MAPPA but still not amazing. but they give incredible amounts of support to freelance workers.
also their is a reason why Chansard has literally signed up to be a full time Toei worker for the upcoming year, and worked as a temporary full time member last year. the conditions are just better.
but overall, one piece does have a better schedule than your typical weekly series, and most seasonal shows. it may not be Mob Psycho levels of perfect schedule, but it’s not MAPPA bad. if MAPPA is a 1 and Mob is a 10; One Piece overall would be about a 7 or 8.
@@lorenzorizzi864 The schedule is more stable than most productions these days. It's not the best but it's really not bad either. But most staff members that work on One Piece's anime get a lot more freedom with their work then a lot of other productions, and they have the time to do their work. So even if there's episodes that do have rough productions (few and far between), there's always some episodes that have a lot of time. It's not entirely because of the studio or popularity as you bring up.
Or do what i did, just dont watch dogsht
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funny you can deflect criticism since you can comprehend the irony in your name.
It's just shounen crayon eaters being crayon eaters.
creative freedom and interpretation of each scenario while pushing the budget will always be very impressive in the back of my mind.
But that naruto fight scene will always be laughably bad and was a product of it's time anyways.
typed so much to say absolutely nothing of value or coherence
@@OkYep-lp8rv
typed so little to say absolutely nothing of value or coherence.
Well, the fact you use "budget" in reference to anime tells me all I know, you know absolutely nothing about it yet you comment on it like an expert, that's a different level of arrogance, budget isn't that important with anime as it's staff, time management and coordination that actually makes or breaks an anime, anime compared to other pieces of media is extremely cheap
@@itapproaches3484
Still money will always plays an important factor into investing into a series US side anyways. I genuinely did forget that the japanese get paid little for the quality they are able to produce so thats on me.
i don't like jjk s2 animetion it's not my type but jjk s1 animetion with darker tones i like most that's why i watch only few anime
i obsessed with jjk s1 animetion but now see jjk s2 animetion and art style
and now i don't have interest in anime it's boring for me
i don't know why but i don't enjoy animes now
it's happening after jjk s2 😢
let me guess u like how ufo projects looks or bleach tbyw looks. but it’s based on directors approach at the end of the day.
Jjk s1 didn't have that darker tone on purpose it was just bad composition lol
Alright then, if you watch anime for animation then, enjoy watching little to no anime
@@thegoldenapplebryanwu6816 that’s not true
@@8ooty0 Okay I misread the comment, but still, he's only interested in dark tones. And jjk is much darker in S2 than S1. But for him to be turned off by it because of a simple art style change for better animation and composition before getting to the actual dark parts is crazy.
every creativity should be appreciated except 3D CGI
a LOT of things you don’t think is cgi actually is… I personally enjoy when a show at least tries to do background animation or shots that otherwise would be implausible
lol
I mean it worked for Beastars and Star Wars: The Clone Wars
3D CGI isn't just used for characters, they're also used to create backgrounds which isn't a bad thing.
Demon slayer, Jjk season 2, fate, Csm and a lot of other high priority projects use cgi well whether it be foreground or background cgi that they use to elevate the scene, have you not seen Trigun stampede? Cgi is just as valuable of an asset as 2d is, 3d anime can be very creative.
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In terms of animation, I value things that would seem difficult to recreate in live action. That, to me, is creativity for anime.