RTX 4080 Laptop vs Desktop - How Big is the Difference?

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024

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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +103

    Alright here's the requested RTX 4090 laptop GPU vs RTX 4080 desktop GPU comparison! ua-cam.com/video/z2531DDo55w/v-deo.html
    To everyone asking for all sorts of different random laptop vs desktop GPU comparisons - I can't do them all as dedicated videos, but there will be one big video comparing almost all RTX 30/40 laptop and desktop GPUs in some months time, just takes a LONG time to collect all the data (25 games, multiple resolutions, more than 30 GPUs)

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      you can do the most requested one though.
      Looking at a huge number of graphs at the same time would make it way harder to analyze how much faster a certain GPU is compared to another.
      You can also just compile results of the desktop 4080 and laptop 4090m and show them to us with a voiceover. You don't need to re-test them again since all benchmarks are already done.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +4

      @@TabalugaDragon Maybe, I just have my doubts as to how well the video would actually do. Do that many people actually care about that?

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +3

      @@JarrodsTech yes, read the comments to this video and to 4090 vs 4090 comparison, lots of people are requesting it. Even more than I expected. Since 4090m and desktop 4080 are based on the same die, that's what a lot of people(if not most) want to see.
      As for price difference - a laptop will almost always cost more, that's just the truth of life.

    • @vishalsg
      @vishalsg Рік тому +1

      What exactly is 1% low?

    • @DarkKnight2037
      @DarkKnight2037 Рік тому +5

      I only mean to compare Laptop 4090 with Desktop 4080, because theyre the exact same chip. But i guess for taht could also just look at the power graph of the 4080 desktop lol

  • @sbilalx
    @sbilalx Рік тому +390

    To all the people who want the laptop 4090 to be compared with the desktop 4080, i totally agree with you based on information's sake. But those saying that this video comparision is not fair are absolutely wrong as this is what nvidia themselves did to confuse those unaware buyers. If this is what they wanna do, then this shall be what they get.

    • @MicaelAzevedo
      @MicaelAzevedo Рік тому +18

      King

    • @xtradi
      @xtradi Рік тому +6

      It will never be same as the watts are difference so it's should not be having the same name

    • @Spolt_main
      @Spolt_main Рік тому +15

      Idk why everyone is saying this is inaccurate because it's literally what's advertised.

    • @enricojeremias5425
      @enricojeremias5425 Рік тому +2

      Still, that comparison 4900m vs 4800 desktop would be interesting to see ...

    • @strider029
      @strider029 Рік тому +9

      It's not exactly to confuse the customers, yes it looks that way. You will still get the advatages of a 40 series card in a mobile variant like DLSS 3, except the reason they have degraded the performance is for thermal reasons, laptop's thermals haven't really kept up with the amount of power the newer NVIDIA cards is asking nowadays (a 4090 asks for 450 watts, no way in hell you're going to fit that monstrosity in a 16 inch or even 18 inch laptops).
      Laptop designers need to design a new thermal solution to make it possible, or NVIDIA needs to design their cards to be more energy efficient without degrading performance.

  • @xtradi
    @xtradi Рік тому +515

    The cost for desktop should also include similar display, speaker, and keyboard vs laptop

    • @Ghost-hs6qq
      @Ghost-hs6qq Рік тому +30

      Yeah that would be helpful

    • @sumawardhen198
      @sumawardhen198 Рік тому +98

      Well, even it included. Although it may cost same. I believe desktop is way better overall. Better display, better speaker, everything else

    • @paulolourenco4859
      @paulolourenco4859 Рік тому +6

      100% agree

    • @KangoV
      @KangoV Рік тому +35

      I've had the same screens/mouse/keyboards across my last 3 desktops. So no, don't include them.

    • @itsmedohh699
      @itsmedohh699 Рік тому +5

      Those are user variant, raw performance is only what's compared here

  • @7lllll
    @7lllll Рік тому +272

    you should compare desktop 4080 to laptop 4090, then it's pretty much identical specs except the energy use

    • @crescentmoon256
      @crescentmoon256 Рік тому +10

      U can underolt the pc gpu with no performance impact

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 Рік тому +5

      There's like maybe a 10-15% uplift between the laptop 4080 and 4090 at best

    • @CMDR_MAJIC
      @CMDR_MAJIC Рік тому +35

      Exactly, that would be a more logical and interesting comparison. We already knew the naming is irrelevant and I don't need to watch the video to know that the desktop obliterates the laptop 4080. What would actually be interesting is comparing the most powerful laptop to its nearest desktop equivalent based on the specs (not the naming)

    • @TheTricou
      @TheTricou Рік тому +22

      true, RTX 4080 Mobile is using AD104 that is also used by RTX4070TI and RTX4070 desktop variant. RTX 4090 mobile is using AD103 that is used in RTX4080 desktop variant.

    • @TheDarksideFNothing
      @TheDarksideFNothing Рік тому +21

      It's pretty clear Nvidia just bumped the names of their laptop chips up one tier.

  • @oleksandrveklych
    @oleksandrveklych Рік тому +63

    Whould be very interesting to compare Laptop 4080 VS Desktop 4070/4070ti since they share the same GPU die.

    • @nickbryant6970
      @nickbryant6970 Місяць тому +2

      Mobile 4080 performs very close to a dekstop 4070

  • @YangBalanceYin
    @YangBalanceYin Рік тому +44

    Dude modern day laptops are nuts... Of course the desktop is (almost) always going to come out on top, but you're looking at a totally acceptable competitor at 1/8th the size factor (including monitors, keyboards, etc for the desktop.) and half the wattage. Desktops are always going to be the "way to go" in terms of raw power (and usually price), but damn have these laptops come far.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 Рік тому +13

      Yeah I don't think direct comparisons are that useful coz laptops and desktops are basically two separate markets. High end Desktops are for people that want the absolute best possible set-up, upgradeability, and space is not an concern. Gaming laptops are for people that travel or have multiple places they stay in, but don't want the hassle of moving a desktop everywhere.. they'll sacrifice some performance and upgradeability for convenience.

    • @BW022
      @BW022 5 місяців тому

      @@gman7497 Bingo. If you have a big screen TV or gaming monitor to game on... well... what is the point of a laptop. The 40" to 75" monitor isn't portable, so you might as well put a PC under it. Likewise, if you want a portable device, why lug a big gaming laptop around when a tablet, Surface, or light laptop is fine. It takes an odd use case where you have multiple big monitors/workstations to plug something into and yet need to bring a device between them. Business travel for someone needed a powerful PC is more common, but that kind of graphics is typically overkill.

    • @boost91
      @boost91 4 місяці тому

      And then when you're at home you can hook it to an external monitor and plugged that monitor directly into an EGP u enclosure with minimal performance hit using your laptops CPU Indecently have a docking station with full powered desktop card when you're at home... By I used QHD monitor and like new do 4080GPU spend 7052 a $100 on the EGPU and I don't know maybe a 150 on a power supply... Now you're literally within 5% of the desktop card and then can unplug and be at 25% of the performance while on the go...

    • @McBreak332
      @McBreak332 2 місяці тому

      ​@@BW022 your point completely misses gaming laptop target market. I'll be always pro desktop just because, as some mentioned, you always can get the best power at the best price compared to laptops. However, I'm right now in a point of my life where I move every month between two houses and I won't probably live in the same city for more than two years or so, also my next job will ask me a lot of travelling probably. Therefore, I want a powerful gaming pc, but I can't get a desktop that could last me 6-7 years like the one I had until now if I need to move and travel so much. In the future if I settle down somewhere? okay, I'll make the best desktop I've ever had, but right now a good laptop that's powerful enough to be able to play everything at max at least at 1080p for the next 4 years or so will do fine. So I think this is the market of gaming laptops and you ware missing all the big picture

    • @BW022
      @BW022 2 місяці тому

      @@McBreak332 Sorry, I'm honestly not understanding you.
      * You move between two houses. That's rare, but ok. Do you have a big TV/monitor at each house? Do you own two houses? Seems like an extra PC would be cheap in comparison. If you don't own them, how do you travel between them? You can put a PC in a car, even pay extra for a smaller PC. If you fly... PC is cheap vs. plane tickets. Travel I can understand, but moving between to fixed places doesn't seem to make sense. Even at work, I don't play that game -- I keep a PC at both places rather than carry a laptop around.
      * Desktop not lasting. And how does a gaming laptop solve that? They will be obsolete long before a desktop, less upgradable, far more expensive to replace, and far more likely to break (drop, screen, keyboard, battery, etc.)

  • @AdrianRusu95
    @AdrianRusu95 Рік тому +94

    It would be nice to see a comparison between the RTX 4090 Laptop vs the RTX 4080 Desktop since they use similar chips. Great video by the way!

    • @FelpsJesus
      @FelpsJesus Рік тому +7

      Same here 😊

    • @nero5303
      @nero5303 Рік тому +3

      4080M vs 4080..
      Only Big thing we easily to see here, that they had not same Die note GPU..
      - AD104 vs Newer AD103 (?) Seriously ?

    • @SindreS
      @SindreS Рік тому +4

      Totally agree..
      Also please compare these two:
      "X13 Flow with XG Mobile 3080"
      vs "4080 Laptop" aka Mobile
      ...many of us are considering cheap-ish 3080 while in stock (or used)

    • @imnotdavidxnsx
      @imnotdavidxnsx Рік тому +1

      And because the laptop 4090 is the true successor to the laptop 3080. NIVIDA moved the naming scheme over one notch in the laptops to get people to pay more for less. That's why you can get a 4090 in a laptop this generation but you could only get up to a 3080 before.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +10

      A few people have asked for it, so it'll be coming up this week.

  • @Glebanakonda921
    @Glebanakonda921 Рік тому +33

    It would be interesting to see comparison between 4080 desktop and 4090 laptop as they have very similar chip. Also NEO seems to be quite poorly cooled by air as most other 4090 and 4080 laptops don't hit temp limit on GPU, though they are much louder

  • @Rykaas
    @Rykaas Рік тому +51

    The desktop version is basically as big as the laptop itself. I'm not surprised by the difference in performance, or rather I am but in favor of the laptop version being so tiny yet so performing with reasonable temperatures

    • @fugginrambo
      @fugginrambo Рік тому +1

      Exactly, when Jays two Cents showed the size comparison over the years I was blown away at the 4090s size.

    • @nigstar1239
      @nigstar1239 Рік тому +3

      I mean like, yes, but 5 years ago we had Rog G703s with gtx1080s actually OUTMATCHING the desktop gtx1080

    • @tomtang8708
      @tomtang8708 Рік тому

      well. The cooler size has benefits of lower temperature and hence lower noise. So for desktop I actually prefer largher cooler for desktop use in exchange for lower noise, which is very important for the actual expericence, especially with a good pair of speakers.

    • @Rykaas
      @Rykaas Рік тому +1

      @@tomtang8708 A desktop pc is better for many reasons and I personally prefer it. I'm currently using a laptop because of my job and I have to move often otherwise a desktop would just be better. Quiter, cooler, more performant for the price, if you want to upgrade something you just have to buy the single piece, and last but not least, you can build it however you want and specifically to your needs

    • @fidelisitor8953
      @fidelisitor8953 Рік тому +3

      Laptop version would perform much better if NVIDIA wasn't so cunning and had put the same die and vram as the desktop version. If they did, the only difference between laptop and desktop would've been in TGP.

  • @poppys33d
    @poppys33d Рік тому +17

    Hey Jarrod, - thanks for all the reviews. Most helpful. I just picked up a new Legion 7 Gen 8 with the 4080/13900HX, 32GB DDR5-5600 etc, and can validate that the 1% lows are just awful on this machine. The occasional stutters are absolutely crazy-making, especially since the average is so good. I can't figure out exactly what's going on. I. even under-volted the CPU to ensure no thermal throttling, so it's not that. Compared to my 13700K+4090+DDR4 desktop it's a much inferior experience just because of those 1% lows. Do we have any idea what's going on here?

    • @adrian_kaye
      @adrian_kaye 6 місяців тому +1

      I have the same problem on my 4090 laptop

  • @openboxtherapy1010
    @openboxtherapy1010 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for making all of these comparison videos so informative!

  • @KartikoKurnianto
    @KartikoKurnianto Рік тому +7

    They should bring back the "M" suffix on nvidia mobile GPU

  • @resolutesatyr
    @resolutesatyr Рік тому +52

    The level of quality and professionalism of Jarrod’s videos is unparalleled 👌

  • @1Nynja
    @1Nynja Рік тому +5

    Great comparison. I think including the avg energy cost comparison would show that the laptop really is a eco friendly solution in the long term. That desktop build is going to draw around 700w at best, whereas the laptop is around 330w max.

    • @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki
      @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki 4 місяці тому

      EXACTLY what i was saying about operational costs. 180% more power for 33% of frame boost (looking from laptop GPU side) ...GLHF

  • @jackali5014
    @jackali5014 Рік тому +7

    RTX 4080 laptop should be %34 cheaper than desktop

  • @RyneLanders
    @RyneLanders Рік тому +25

    I think the more relevant comparison is the laptop RTX 4090 which is basically the desktop RTX 4080. I'd like to see what a top-TDP system like the MSI Titan can do, and then a more thin and light mainstream offering like the Razer Blade or Zephyrus M16 can do so we have some ranges to explore.

  • @brah_ddah
    @brah_ddah Рік тому +5

    I think these videos that call out the lameness of the same product name across laptop and desktop are important.
    I’d like to see same chip comparisons. So a laptop 4090 and desktop 4080 for example.

  • @pqlamzpqlamzpqlamzpqalzm5370
    @pqlamzpqlamzpqlamzpqalzm5370 Рік тому +3

    I still think it's easier to upgrade a laptop because it's easier to sell as long as you take care of it as compared to upgrading parts per piece off of a desktop. But hey everyone has their own preferences .

    • @urulooke
      @urulooke Рік тому +1

      I fully agree with you. I keep hearing about how PC is upgradeable, but it's not been my experience. CPU on my desktop died 2 months ago - it was Core i5 6600k. But I can't install a new CPU on that motherboard, so I have to replace it as well. Turns out it's hard to find a mini ITX motherboard that fits in my case with Noctua NH-D15, so I might have to get a new CPU cooler too. I'd be happy to swap GTX 1070 for a newer GPU on the occasion, but find me one that provides at least +50% FPS while still being 2 slots and not taking more power, because so far I was running 450 W SFX power supply perfectly fine. Looks like I need a new case and a new power supply then. I guess I could keep my DDR4 RAM, but perhaps if I'm already replacing the entire PC then I should go DDR5? So the only component of my PC that can be re-used in a new PC is the NVME SSD drive.

  • @ttkttk7463
    @ttkttk7463 Рік тому +5

    Hey Jarrod, how good are those TRACER VII EDGE I17E LC 17 laptops from cyberpowerPC? They seem to be cheaper with the new 4080m, 4090m gpus and they are also water cooled. I couldn't find any review of them.

    • @heroofharo
      @heroofharo Рік тому +1

      It should perform similar to the machine in this video.

    • @blasianking4827
      @blasianking4827 Рік тому +1

      They are likely resold Clevo/Tongfang laptops, just like the XMG Neo in the video. I think they should be fine.

  • @anynomous11111
    @anynomous11111 Рік тому +6

    Can you compare cards with the same dye like desktop 4080 with laptop 4090

  • @SteveEricJordan
    @SteveEricJordan Рік тому +6

    to me personally nvidia is just borderline scamming people by naming their mobile gpus like their desktop gpus. theyre factually not the same products. bring back the "rtx 4080m" or at least max q naming scheme or people will trust you less year by year. if the laptop 4090 ist weaker than a desktop 4070 something is REALLY wrong.

  • @Piketom1
    @Piketom1 Рік тому +3

    Suddenly I miss the days when NVIDIA used MaxQ to designate the laptop version of the cards. At least it was clear to average customers that the desktop and laptop graphics cards were two distinct lines of products.

    • @nigstar1239
      @nigstar1239 Рік тому

      Bro now all laptops gpus are maxq. The Titan of today, the MSI GT77 HX, is sooo much lighter and smaller than the gt75

  • @danielm2808
    @danielm2808 9 місяців тому +2

    The difference in power usage means ill be sticking to laptops, i’ll just make sure i watch your video reviews before i buy another, although i really don’t need one right now, so it’ll be a while. Maybe when the 50XX GPU’s are out or my current one breaks.

  • @2163216
    @2163216 Рік тому +2

    Hey Jarrod, any update on when your deals website will cover other regions? I don't know what's going on with the market but it seems like whenever a tech UA-camr shows awesome Newegg/Bestbuy laptop deals for like 2,5k$ they are like 4,5k€ in Europe...I thought the whole world is getting hit hard by inflation but I guess Europe is even worse off...or something weird is going on with dealer pricing over here. Kinda ridiculous, anyway would love to see your website cover more areas soon TM.

  • @rishiduke
    @rishiduke Рік тому +2

    pls compare desktop 4070ti and laptop 4080 since there is only 3% or so difference in cuda cores.

  • @ariffmus
    @ariffmus Рік тому

    very useful comparison n presentation! thanks for ur hardwork!

  • @davidulmer9774
    @davidulmer9774 Рік тому +2

    I got the Asus Strix G18 4080 about 3 weeks ago for $2499 ($2749 after taxes 😡) and it's a beast. Cyberpunk 2077 1080p and 1440p Ultra RT just kills it with no stutters and it barely gets warm. Thermal Grizzly liquid metal on the cpu and gpu makes a world of difference.
    I haven't run any benchmarks on this one myself since there are a ton of those videos, but worth a look.

    • @PUBG830
      @PUBG830 Рік тому +1

      Hey I'm also planning to buy the ASUS ROG STRIX G18
      RTX 4080 Varient
      But I have seen that alot of people having the issue of Screen backlight bleed
      And coil wine
      So Can you tell me that is there
      Type of Problem with yours
      Like screenbleed or coil wine

    • @davidulmer9774
      @davidulmer9774 Рік тому +1

      @@PUBG830 I don't have coil whine with mine I don't think, I have tinnitus so I may just not be hearing it, but my fans so far hardly ever come on past the slowest speeds (except in Stranded Deep for some reason).
      As far as the backlight bleed, I haven't noticed it, however the backlight is super bright. If your browsing a page that has allot of white on it, it's way too bright.
      Sorry can't help much, I'm old, blind, and hard of hearing lol.

    • @PUBG830
      @PUBG830 Рік тому

      @@davidulmer9774 thanks❤️

  • @cutcorners6005
    @cutcorners6005 Рік тому +4

    1% lows are so much worse on laptop. There is a high variance from avg fps and that will feel so bad.

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому +1

      Ihv noticed too.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      hence you shouldn't buy i9 for gaming. i7 with less cores would be a better choice. Or a 12 core Ryzen.

  • @gravity1287
    @gravity1287 Рік тому +1

    Good job man!

  • @abhigyandatta13
    @abhigyandatta13 Рік тому +3

    Should compare 4080 of with 4090 laptop as they’re are the same chip. Good video though

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      That video should be coming up this week!

  • @CMDR_MAJIC
    @CMDR_MAJIC Рік тому +10

    Jarrod we already know the naming is irrelevant and I don't need to watch the video to know that the desktop obliterates the laptop 4080. What would be far more interesting is comparing the most powerful laptop to its nearest desktop equivalent based on their specs (not the branding). The Laptop 4090 and desktop 4080 have the same core count and silicon. It would be more interesting to see how much the laptop 4090 is limited by its lower power draw and any cutbacks to the chip design such as fewer RT cores and how much is the discrepancy with ray tracing enabled vs pure rasterisation performance.

  • @mridupawandeka6456
    @mridupawandeka6456 Рік тому +2

    Please compare rtx 4080 laptop with 4070 desktop and rtx 4090 laptop with 4070ti desktop, will be very same I think

  • @HaloblackopsTenken
    @HaloblackopsTenken Рік тому +5

    I was hoping for a rtx 4080 laptop vs 3080 desktop 😢

    • @channelschannel
      @channelschannel Рік тому

      You can see the comparison of these cards at notebookcheck (UA-cam removes the full link), in general 4080 laptop is faster in some games, slower in others. Same for benchmarks

  • @Pouria_1664
    @Pouria_1664 Рік тому +5

    yeah... seems about right. 4070 die power limited and called a 4080. typical nvidia

  • @4535G
    @4535G Рік тому +5

    As expected, 4080 desktop has 30% more CUDA cores than 4080 mobile and it also clocks 15-20% higher. Translate to 35 to 45% more performance.

    • @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki
      @DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki 4 місяці тому

      Yea... and eats 180% of power. Add this into calculation, 5 years of power bills. GL HF

    • @Nunaden0
      @Nunaden0 12 днів тому

      @@DeepInsideZettaiRyouikiif your buying/building a pc with that much value, your going to be in a financial situation where you aren’t too worried about power bills. Lol.

  • @alexjunior6463
    @alexjunior6463 Рік тому +4

    I hope in next videos you might consider comparing more logical, rather "nvidian" style . 4090 laptop vs 4080 desktop, 4080 laptop vs 4070ti desktop

  • @painsiy1
    @painsiy1 Рік тому +11

    As much as i love this video, It's the 4090 laptop that should be compared to the 4080 Desktop.

    • @sbilalx
      @sbilalx Рік тому +2

      Yeah but this is just nvidia's own bs naming scheme, hence thats how it's gonna be.

    • @MicaelAzevedo
      @MicaelAzevedo Рік тому +1

      Blame nvidea looool😂

    • @painsiy1
      @painsiy1 Рік тому +2

      @@sbilalx Yesh, it's marketing so the can charge more.... 🤕

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      I should have a 4090 laptop vs 4080 desktop video up this week.

  • @zen2135
    @zen2135 Рік тому +2

    My question is: Can a 4080 liquid cooled laptop provide a better visual experience on a 4k LG C1 OLED TV than a Xbox Series X when running upcoming games such as Starfield, Diablo IV, GTA VI, etc ?
    I mean, is it worth ditching XSX for a laptop or just stick with it for gaming a get 'random' heavily discounted laptop for portability and AutoCAD/Solidworks workloads ?

    • @vladdx
      @vladdx Рік тому

      No doubt a laptop with 4080 offers a better visual experience using the same screen when compared to a Series X, the XSX is comparable to a laptop with a RTX 4060 at best.

  • @DONUTT360
    @DONUTT360 Рік тому +1

    @JarrodsTech I read somewhere that the 1% low issue with Forza Horizon 5 is because of G-Sync. Playing the game at fixed refresh rate fixes the issue.

  • @elixier33
    @elixier33 9 місяців тому +1

    I have the RTX 4080 in my laptop and no matter the differences it really really does move. I'm extremely happy with it

  • @FoxxFire
    @FoxxFire Рік тому +1

    I know it's too much work, but I'll just throw it out there -- at least highlighting and pointing out the median when you do the multi-game fps comparison at different resolutions might be more valuable than focusing solely on the average. The reason is that there are a few outliers that are affecting the average noticeably enough that the average is not necessarily as representative of the difference as the median would. Anyway, this is a dumb comment, but i've been thinking this each time I watch one of your videos (which I love, BTW; i watch them all), so i figured I would mention it at least one time.....Have a great weekend man.

    • @sorrai
      @sorrai Рік тому

      This wasn't a dumb comment at all, I agree with this take heavily.

  • @zerosumdkp
    @zerosumdkp Рік тому +4

    About what I expected. Given the 4090 mobile is around 10 to 15% faster than the 4080 mobile, while the 4090 desktop is around 30% faster than a 4080 desktop, it makes sense that the gap between a 4080 mobile versus desktop is narrower than the gap between a 4090 mobile versus desktop. It would be interesting to make a comparison between the 4090 mobile and the 4080 desktop or the 4070ti.

    • @Joaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Joaaaaaaaaaaa Рік тому +2

      4090 mobile is a 4070ti basically

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому +1

      @@Joaaaaaaaaaaa RAW performance wise , a 4070ti desktop can match 4090 laptop.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      @@Joaaaaaaaaaaa nope, has 33% more memory.

  • @rolandlefartere9851
    @rolandlefartere9851 Рік тому +1

    For a fairer comparison,put that desktop and monitor inside a bag and lug it around all day and see if there's a difference...

  • @lalitsehgal21
    @lalitsehgal21 Рік тому +2

    Pls compare laptop 4090 as well to desktop 4080 and 4090 too..thanks

  • @DarkKnight2037
    @DarkKnight2037 Рік тому +4

    Honestly, should compare laptop 4090 with the desktop 4080, judging based on everything, iam guessing diff may be around 20-25%? As if they couldnt put the chipset according to name for laptops as well.. so stupid and sneaky by Nvidia

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      I should have that comparison up this week.

  • @HeroLincAirsoft
    @HeroLincAirsoft Рік тому +2

    Great video but next time I would like to see some actual gameplay with the fps counter and thermals on the side.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      I've discussed why I don't show gameplay here: jarrods.tech/why-i-dont-show-game-play-for-benchmarks/

    • @HeroLincAirsoft
      @HeroLincAirsoft Рік тому

      @Jarrod'sTech that's some great reasoning for why you don't, but I generally like to see the info happening in front of me, but yeah, you do you!

  • @dp27thelight9
    @dp27thelight9 Рік тому +5

    rtx 4090 laptop vs the rtx 4080 desktop would be much more interesting as they're both ad103.
    I think in that comparison the laptop would look much more impressive.

    • @killerra
      @killerra Рік тому +2

      Yeah and desktop 4070 Ti vs laptop 4080 makes way more sense given the latter is a lower voltage 4070 Ti with 256 shaders missing.

    • @dp27thelight9
      @dp27thelight9 Рік тому +2

      @@killerra Ya be much more interesting seeing the apples to apples comparisons. Rather then comparing to different gpus.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      it'll be coming up this week!

  • @adityaapte3845
    @adityaapte3845 9 місяців тому

    Very helpful video!

  • @hardwarevsgaming
    @hardwarevsgaming Рік тому +5

    I wonder why Nvidia didn't used a trimmed down version of AD102 for RTX 4090 laptop GPU and cutdown AD103 for 4080 laptop GPU (and so on) instead... 🤔

    • @t1e6x12
      @t1e6x12 Рік тому +1

      The reason starts with an m and ends with a y

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      it's AD103 for 4090m and AD104 for 4080m actually. The reason is greed.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      @Captain_Morgan Yes it would. The higher the clockspeeds are, the less energy efficient a chip is, and the lower the clockspeeds are, the more energy efficient it is. Look at a 70 watt RTX 3060 - it still has about 80% of the desktop 3060 performance - because it has more cores, despite working at just 40% the power limit.

    • @hardwarevsgaming
      @hardwarevsgaming Рік тому +1

      @@TabalugaDragon yes, they used a 1 tier down GPU chip for each segment for laptops. On top of that each chip is "nerfed". Why not used a nerfed Ad102 for 4090 laptop / nerfed ad103 for 4080 laptop etc... At least it's the same GPU chip as its desktop counterpart.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      @@hardwarevsgaming if by "nerfed" you mean "downclocked with the same number of cores" then I agree. Cutting down the cuda core count is always a bad idea, as seen on the laptop 3070.

  • @RunForPeace-hk1cu
    @RunForPeace-hk1cu Рік тому +1

    Why do people care about laptop / desktop comparisons?!?!
    If you want a laptop, you are gonna get a laptop regardless
    If you want to play all the latest games at the highest settings, you are gonna get a desktop.
    It's a pointless comparison.
    Comparing a 150W GPU with a 300W GPU is laughable.

    • @60DollarCodger
      @60DollarCodger Рік тому +1

      It's kind of a 'for science' comparison (that he has done for a couple gens now).
      The scope of the video wasn't to prove what gaming laptop enthusiasts already know or to rant about the naming, it was just to show people the actual performance between the two closely named products so that you can help yourself and help others that might not understand the difference.
      Agreed that 'what desktop model does this M model compare to' vids would be interesting, and plenty are also asking (nicely) for that, so maybe team JT will do those.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      "Comparing a 150W GPU with a 300W GPU is laughable." yet at that difference, a laptop 3070 ti was only 17% slower on average than desktop 3070 ti. Laugh as much as you want, but laptops still perform really well, even at much lower power limits.

  • @007arundass007
    @007arundass007 Рік тому +1

    thanks a lot!!

  • @kronfle111
    @kronfle111 Рік тому +5

    Hello Jarrod! What about a video of 4070 vs 4080 laptops, but just with the dlss3 and/or FG also enabled. So we can see if the difference after those options are still pretty big, or if those options reduce the gap between both. Thanks as always!!

  • @antondovydaitis2261
    @antondovydaitis2261 Рік тому +1

    Thank you again.

  • @amirmousawi9156
    @amirmousawi9156 Рік тому +2

    Good video. Can you review the framework laptop and show us its performance.

  • @prajjwaltiwari8644
    @prajjwaltiwari8644 Рік тому +3

    There's no point of high end GPU for me. Most I'll be able to afford is a 3050 or 4050 laptop. So Jarrod, when can we expect a video on that??

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 Рік тому

      I barely find rtx 4050 laptop axepecially on budget gaming laptop like asus tuf, acer nitro, hp victus, etc on my country

  • @mastergilgalad
    @mastergilgalad Рік тому

    Great comparison video. Thanks a lot. I am missing a benchmark where you undervolt the desktop gpu till it’s nearly drawing as much power than the mobile does. Would be great to see how they performe with similar power usage.

  • @user-nw1nz6ne2t
    @user-nw1nz6ne2t 3 місяці тому

    For a laptop with a 4080 GPU, it's more powerful than the desktop options you suggested for artificial intelligence tasks. However, considering the energy consumption, let's calculate the electricity cost difference over 3 years. Assuming 250 watts for 8 hours of operation daily equals 2 kilowatt-hours, which costs about $0.6. Multiplying this by 300 days a year and 3 years gives $540. Considering the likely higher energy consumption difference, a laptop's total cost over 3 years becomes comparable to that of a desktop

  • @gucky4717
    @gucky4717 Рік тому +7

    It would be more interesting comparing 2 GPUs with the same DIE: 4090 Mobile with 4080 Desktop and undervolt the Desktop GPU to be close or match the 4090 Mobile in powerdraw.

    • @ChristianBrugger
      @ChristianBrugger Рік тому

      Agree, especially with undertcolting!

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      you won't match the laptop one by just undervolting it. You'd also have to underclock it as well or limit the wattage.

  • @evenfrost
    @evenfrost 10 місяців тому

    Was looking for videos about RTX 4080 Laptop, clicked on this one and saw you wearing the t-shirt of my favourite band. Instant like! Also, thanks for the great video :)

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 Рік тому +2

    It is quite interesting when you think about it. Of course, there is a big difference between laptop and desktop and there will always be. The question is if it will matter for so much longer. Today's laptops consume 175W of TGP. I recollect that high-end desktops in the Pascal-generation were about the same. Other features makes the difference smaller.
    So laptops aren't that much worse. They are about two generations behind, sometimes less, which is impressive, because who wouldn't prefer laptop gaming if not for the perf difference and the upgradeability? The problem is that nVidia now charge outrageous prices for their mislabeled cards and AMD isn't putting up a fight. Only two years ago, at the mining boom, you got an equally performing laptop for the same or less. Not anymore.
    Still, and people will get angry with this opinion, I foresee the laptop market taking more market shares at the expense of desktops. Maybe tablets, mobiles or consoles will gain. I don't know. I only know that hobbyism isn't a sellying point anymore. How many end-users run Linux? And it is a fact that the laptop format is way more practical.

  • @nemesis7884
    @nemesis7884 Рік тому +3

    Afaik a 4070ti desktop is about a 4090 laptop

  • @hallohallodu100
    @hallohallodu100 Рік тому

    Hey Jarrod, I really enjoy your content! So, I have a question: Are you planning to do a comparison of the 4090 vs. 4080 vs. 4070 vs. 4060 on the XMG NEO 16 platform ? Also, will there be a bigger NEO 16 Review coming any time soon ? Thanks (:

  • @MrSullivan369
    @MrSullivan369 11 місяців тому

    Really Good video!

  • @arunantony3207
    @arunantony3207 Рік тому +5

    Maybe the right comparison would be 4090 laptop vs a 4080 desktop cause it’s the same GPU die but lower power spec

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      Should have that comparison up this week!

  • @elleilvape
    @elleilvape Рік тому +3

    Please compare 4080 laptop vs 3080ti desktop

  • @niebuhr6197
    @niebuhr6197 Рік тому +2

    I dont get the point of these videos. When Jarrod asked we wanted to see true equivalent comparisons, like 4090m vs 4080, 4080m vs 4070 ti etc.
    We already know, other than the name and transistor tech/design, mobile and desktop dont anything else in common, because ngreedia doesnt give af about giving a proper naming to mobile, like they did for 2 FULL GENS.
    If someone gets fooled expecting the same hardware that's also their fault (alongside NV). It takes 20 seconds to google the specs to understand what you get...

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      yeah I mean it's not like the laptop 4080 is literally called "RTX 4080" just like the desktop version. Yes it has officially "laptop GPU" but I've seen plenty of times not only laptop manufacturers but online shops completely omitting it, making it look like a DESKTOP 4080, just with lower power limits. So after 2 gens of using desktop chips in laptops it's reasonable to think Nvidia is continuing this trend.

  • @TheMirrorYouDeserve
    @TheMirrorYouDeserve Рік тому +1

    but the laptop price includes the display and the PC not so thats not really a fair comparison

  • @tride.design
    @tride.design Рік тому +2

    Please compare same laptop with internal Rtx 4080 and when it's connected to external desktop rtx 4080 via USB-c.
    I'm curious if it's worth getting any laptop that can better utilize the external rtx 4080 graphics than internal one and get that one for gaming and 3d modeling at home.

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 Рік тому

      like an external gpu enclosure? if so I wouldn't recommend it. the gpu will have worse performance due to bandwidth constraints and the enclusure can be expensive

  • @livliv2384
    @livliv2384 4 місяці тому

    I was thinking about getting a gaming laptop because it was cheap, but I changed my mind after I saw the more affordable high-end gaming desktop. Plus, it is also last longer and upgradeable than the gaming laptop. Furthermore, I know that gaming laptop is portability, but that is only advantage of it. I can't wait for my gaming desktop and big screen monitor!🤩🤩🤩

  • @SindreS
    @SindreS Рік тому +1

    We have come to a point of laptop are cheaper than a desktop
    I would love a comparison of these two:
    "X13 Flow with XG Mobile 3080"
    vs "4080 Laptop" aka Mobile
    ...many of us are considering cheap-ish 3080 while in stock (or used)

    • @SindreS
      @SindreS Рік тому +1

      Also please 4090 Laptop vs 4080 Desktop

  • @OviWanKeno9i
    @OviWanKeno9i 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow, so that means that this RTX 4080 laptop (not sure if you tested on water cooling, as most laptops don't have that. ALmost no one will buy that) would be about only 5% slower than my huge RTX 3090 desktop.... that hurts considering how much money I spent on that card (almost a new laptop), the RAM, motherboard, CPU, all the water cooling..
    Edit: I guess you did test it with the water cooler. I would only use that at home and I will likely not have it at all.
    For work, I just use a Macbook Pro M2Max that I got given.
    Sounds like it's not worth building computers anymore which it pretty sad.

    • @portman8909
      @portman8909 11 місяців тому +2

      GPU prices are a joke these days. Laptops are the way forward and massively cut electricity bills.

  • @sokpanhanov8036
    @sokpanhanov8036 Рік тому +3

    Can you do a comparison between Intel i9 13980hx vs amd r9 7945hx laptop cpu please

  • @c0r5e
    @c0r5e 3 місяці тому

    The only golden gaming laptop years were around 2018-2021 when the only difference between laptop and desktop CPU was the clocks and power consumption

  • @John117M63
    @John117M63 Рік тому +2

    So is the 4080 laptop equivalent to a 3090?

  • @morgoth7180
    @morgoth7180 Рік тому +2

    I'd like to see a 4070ti desktop vs 4080 laptop...that feels to be a good comparison

    • @darkslaerdark
      @darkslaerdark 9 місяців тому

      4070ti desktop is better than 4080 laptop.

  • @kostanos
    @kostanos Рік тому +1

    Could you include the external GPU to comparison too? I mean having ultra portable laptop + eGPU how will it perform comparing to desktop and gaming laptop.
    Also in terms of price

    • @gersongaete1574
      @gersongaete1574 Рік тому

      No external Gpus work as well as having it internally connected via a pcie. USB4 just can't keep up, the most you can use is a 3060ti, above that and you'll be paying for no extra performance.

  • @app1mxh
    @app1mxh Рік тому

    Thank you. I feel that the industry should change names based on wattage. It will make purchasing decisions much easier.

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora Рік тому +3

    Dude stop!!!!. We know the SKU of the 4080 laptop is based on the 4070ti Desktop. The DO A TEST BETWEEN THOSE!. We know Nvidia is screwing with the naming. We know the 4080 desktop will be faster, DUH! Waste of a video. A Good Video would be against the actual desktop counterpart, in this case is the 4070TI. GOD these reviewers keep making the wrong comparisons. We already know about the 4090 debacle, and the 30 series also

    • @60DollarCodger
      @60DollarCodger Рік тому

      It's kind of a 'for science' comparison (that he has done for a couple gens now).
      The scope of the video wasn't to prove what gaming laptop enthusiasts already know or to rant about the naming, it was just to show people the actual performance between the two closely named products so that you can help yourself and help others that might not understand the difference.
      Agreed that 'what desktop model does this M model compare to' vids would be interesting, and plenty are also asking (nicely) for that, so maybe team JT will do something like that.

  • @aaz1992
    @aaz1992 Рік тому

    I got a deal on an Aorus 17H with 4080 for only $1990 USD. Amazing price-to-performance

  • @MisterBlex
    @MisterBlex Рік тому +1

    Considering the laptop version has 12GB VRAM, and the desktop 16GB, your intuition can kind of guide you on how the laptop version will perform compared to the desktop.

    • @Ran7IX
      @Ran7IX Рік тому

      I think it will be the same as a 4070ti performance

  • @thepan
    @thepan Рік тому +1

    My hot take:
    Nvidia should've named their 4090 laptop GPU as 4080 instead since the performance difference isn't far off with the 4080 desktop.
    It will save them from the "not really a 40*0" cycle.

  • @kenny.lyh108
    @kenny.lyh108 Рік тому

    3 months later in my country, there is MSI with their 1970 USD converted, 12900HX RTX4080 selling here. It's probably a bit weaker than the model you shown here but the price difference is massive. I'm definitely getting that laptop since it's so much cheaper now

  • @theaces3697
    @theaces3697 9 місяців тому +1

    I am very impressed woth how close Laptops are actually getting to desktop performance, i remember just 10 years ago, a gaming laptop was not even close to a realistic option but now im considering a gaming laptop for when traveling with work

  • @Sajad5776
    @Sajad5776 Рік тому

    Damn we didn't know you're are fan of ENSIFERUM. That's really cool dude!!!

  • @MrQwertypoiuyty
    @MrQwertypoiuyty Рік тому +3

    To be fair with the RTX 4080 laptop, it's faster than the last generation RTX 3080 desktop GPU. So can you bring or stuff your desktop with RTX 3080 into your backpack?

    • @MicaelAzevedo
      @MicaelAzevedo Рік тому +1

      Bought a 3080 for 400 xD 3070ti laptop for 1000€ and with 2000€ i made a desktop and a laptop ahaha. Saved 1000€😂🎉

  • @KangoV
    @KangoV Рік тому +2

    This test would change if using the new Framework 16 with upgradeable GPU :)

    • @NamNguyen-xf9xo
      @NamNguyen-xf9xo Рік тому +2

      You know that they will still be using mobile gpus right?

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 Рік тому +1

      still mobile gpu. the idea sounds cool. hopefully the cooling can keep up.

  • @schweiserschweiser3397
    @schweiserschweiser3397 Рік тому +1

    The laptop 40 series is great but pc gpu this year are overkill. Nice job jarod like everytime.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 Рік тому

      I mean idk, a 4090 desktop still has issues with running 60 fps on games where absolutely everything is maxed out on 4k res with ray-tracing and such. Now games don't necessarily need all that to look great but if you're a pc enthusiast who wants the absolute best of everything a high end 40 series definitely has value.

  • @channelschannel
    @channelschannel Рік тому +1

    Another great comparison, well done

  • @YAPPER_TRASHY
    @YAPPER_TRASHY Рік тому

    Excellent vid

  • @owlmostdead9492
    @owlmostdead9492 Рік тому +2

    I vote for a laptop 4090 vs desktop 4080

  • @n1ng3n
    @n1ng3n Рік тому +1

    Is the 4080 mobile basically a 3080 ti desktop?

    • @Coonakos
      @Coonakos Рік тому

      Roughly yes. I get benchmark results and actual gaming performance similar to that of a desktop 3080 12gb - or Ti with my 4080 laptop.
      In games that support dlss 3 and FG the performance is better on the laptop. I get 80 or so frames in Witcher when in Novigrad with everything maxed at 2k whereas my desktop with 3090 was struggling to maintain 40 - 45 frames in the same extremely densely populated area.

    • @MicaelAzevedo
      @MicaelAzevedo Рік тому +1

      ​@@Coonakoswaiting for fsr3. Hell ya amd on this.

  • @motiveminute01
    @motiveminute01 Рік тому

    I think its pretty clear that instead of getting a really “good” gaming laptop you could just do a “budget” 4070 ti (or maybe 4070 when it comes) desktop build for around 2000$ and also get a m1 macbook for around 1000$ and still be a lot cheaper than a 4090 laptop with similar performance (and you get an actual good laptop which is stable, goes to sleep properly and performs full power on battery)

  • @wazkangz955
    @wazkangz955 Рік тому

    Very similar to 3070ti laptop and desktop comparison Jarrod did a while ago. This mid area of gpu’s are where desktop and laptop are more equal.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      nope, 3070 ti laptop was only 17% slower, this one is like 40-50% slower. Because there isn't much difference in specs between the laptop and desktop 3070 ti, but a big difference in specs here.

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Рік тому +2

    Interesting that we’re seeing the Nvidia laptop gpus dipping heavily in the 1% lows in a number of newer titles 😱🤯. Not something you wanna see on a ~$3k laptop 💻! Might as well buy an RTX30-series GPU OR power limit your expensive new laptop GPU to keep stable fps averages and 1% lows 😢🤔

  • @boost91
    @boost91 4 місяці тому

    My old 1070 ASUS finally bit the dust and right now I can get open box in excellent condition M16R1 with 7845HX and 4080 or $1650... 16 gig Ram pre-installed is a minor bummer but 50 bucks I'll fix that 1 TB SSD240 hurts QHD16 inch display.... Really think and I'm gonna go for it, how are you 4080 laptop owners feeling with your purchases? What did you all get as you set up would you pay and how you liking it?

  • @doge-of-venice
    @doge-of-venice Рік тому

    When is the rtx 4050 vs 3060 video coming please?

  • @legendaryjason9115
    @legendaryjason9115 Рік тому +1

    4090 laptop vs 4080 desktop please

  • @zoubairoudrhiri6150
    @zoubairoudrhiri6150 3 місяці тому +1

    Dude that laptop is insaane 😮

  • @complete-mayhem-x64
    @complete-mayhem-x64 Рік тому

    Would love to see what kind of laptop you'd have to get to meet and exceed the legendary 1080TI desktop card. I realize that may be an unreasonable test, just a wild wonder of mine

  • @muzzamilraza3793
    @muzzamilraza3793 Рік тому

    Hey, I wanted to ask you that you should make a video on laptops we can buy right now
    And if it's okay to buy laptop with RTX 30 series or we should wait for RTX 40 series laptops