I was expecting the title to be clickbait, but that really was a masterclass! Thanks for the guide. I really liked the ending part where you demonstrated it in action with pauses and explanations.
I appreciate these guides. Deception is my preferred class. I have a PT on the side, but I enjoy classes with the upside of being able to pick fights. this was useful. If Kiddo still plays, i would love to get some tips and insight from him!
Nice guild bro. Your videos been helping me to gear/spec. For the stats my accuracy is 1100 but it doesnt say 5% like in the video, so i bumped it up to 1300 to hit that number.
That might be because you are missing the 1% companion bonus that you get from playing the story. Not a big deal but until you unlock that, you have to run the 1300 accuracy rating
Love the video! Very detailed and informative. Could you make a video on Carnage Marauder? I play a high alacrity build with the Shard of Mortis, but I feel like all of my hits in PVP are absorbed and dodged by all of the tank specs. I know carnage is almost all white damage, but I still feel that even with 100% Armor Penetration at times, tanks are shrugging it off with ease. Not sure what the best strategy is for that. 😂
Yeah carnage is on the list for sure. As you said, it really struggles against tanks. Not much you can do about that unfortunately except for swapping to unguarded targets and ignore the tank
@@ivano1337 I just got back into the game after 2 years away and man its changed a lot. Your guides and vids are amazing and easy to understand which helps get back into it no prob.
in the list you should sniper egineer you have it in b lvl it should be in A. its defense is kinda strong and you can reset them and you can crit up to last i checked 130k their only downside they are squishy when they have no defense and have no escape
You could check out my other video where I explain in detail why put Engi sniper in B-Tier overall. ua-cam.com/video/z8geqj9ARk8/v-deo.html But yeah the burst is NUTS. Guild mate of mine hit 186k on it :O
This is a fantastic guide. Liked and Subscribed. Returning player question.. how do you get your glowing skills icons to display outside of the normal quick bars like that? The verticle line of skills to the right of the window of the gameplay screen you've played. I'm looking at the 26:00 min mark and there are icons between the group window and the player on the screen. Thanks!
The vertical line is just another quickbar that I have customized and moved to the center of the screen. I explain how to do it here: ua-cam.com/video/djZJy4zlhX0/v-deo.html
Thank you for your replies. Sorry for the delay I must have disabled notifications and didn’t realize that there was a reply to my comments. I returned to this video to rewatch and clarify a few things. It’s probably the best class video I’ve seen and I love that you engaged a player you trust since you are no longer playing the class often. Even though you don’t play this much any more your video here in terms of format, content, and practical application is just amazing. I would love to see similar master class videos for other classes even the ones you might not play personally. Because your presentation is a perfect format for the “master class” and something tells me you have other friends like kiddo that would consult :). Anyway long winded way to say, this is the best class video I’ve watched. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! No fixed rotation in pvp, because it is too dynamic. So rather, I use the abilities in the order of priority which I explain in the guide.
everything looks great but your taking away alot of the burst on the opener with the stun locks i understand keeping them cc but with the low slash and stun takes up the shadowcraft 6 secs 100percent crits . seems most of the burst window for the big crits are not going to make it if you do the stun locks right ?
You still get enough big crits and the advantage is that you're not gonna miss if they're stunned and they can't use defensives (some exceptions apply). Also if you're not alone it's way better to keep them stunned bc noone survives an AP PT burst combined with deception with this stunlock combo.
I actually like using overload saber but the cool down is aweful in comparision to how often you will benefit from the lightning critical passive, personally 1v1 or when you need to burn fast overload saber will proc surging charge several times do an immense amount of damage and heal you makeing it practically as good as the equivalent of taking the two other passives at the same time though the cooldown is over a minute and you can proc surging charge at maximum once per second using overload saber and also heal while the ability is active for 15 seconds. I think the cooldown needs to be shorter for how time limited the ability is.
My main problem is making sure I have voltage before the fight, how am I supposed to do that? I can't both stealth and keep the stacks up most of the time when I don't know where the enemies are, especially in arena. Either I stealth too long or risk not being able to stealth at all unless I waste cloak I also see that you ignored voltage yourself in the clips at the start of the fight
bioware muss einfach den totenglocken set bonus zurück bringen (melee dmg buff bei reckleness use) was meinste eig mit blade of the elements nerf? den CD vor einiger zeit oder nen neuen nerf? BOTE ist immer noch spitze. grüße
Das wäre stark, yo! Ich meinte das Talent, was vorher ja den CD von Reaping komplett zurückgesetzt hat, was jetzt ja nur noch 6 sek reduziert. Das war ziemlich OP, jetzt ist es nur noch ok imo.
@@ivano1337 I actually have another question if you don't mind. I've been practicing the opener on AI enemies occasionally as I go through story questing, and the stun from my low slash is persisting through discharge even though I only have 1132 alacrity. So is there a mistake in saying we need 2200 alacrity?
I hope you're joking about kiddo being the only one who runs this opener, literally every bot sin in the game has been running that garbage since 6.0, and no offense but if Kiddo really does run that then bro needs to l2p (aside from a lot of other things in this video that make me think so)
Hey, thanks for your comment and for enlightening us with your wisdom! I checked some of your videos and saw that you already ran "that garbage every bot sins run" in 6.0. I quite like your version, where you wasted a charge of recklessness on Spike. Trademark of a Master Assassin! Of course, now that they removed Spike from the game, it seems you switched to the Voltaic Slash opener, which is a great use of Shadowcraft and gives your target time to pop a defensive. Fair play is so important! I have some suggestions for future videos titled: "Shroud is for Noobs: Why you should spec into Whirlwind, but never use it" or "Enabling Cooldown Text is for bots") Do you have any more of these valuable tips? Please share, bro! 💪
@@ivano1337 @ivano1337 looool why so mad little bro, all I said was that opener has been used for forever and is now a trademark of a cc shitter (unless used to fuck with someone or in arenas to get a kill), but certainly shouldnt be the go to rotation taught to players lol. Now one thing you should know is unlike other people who post their videos, mine are in no way whatsoever my "best matches" or handpicked or any shit like that, theyre literally random ass videos I happened to be recording bcs I felt like it and my old ass pc allowed me to (even tho you can still clearly see insane frame drops and lag nevertheless), so cherry picking little bits of my videos means absolutely nothing as I'm just having fun in them, aside from the fact theyre old af and I've improved considerably since. But if you wanna get technical we can: first off I have no idea what you're talking about, I use my ww regularly in those videos, and picked it over shroud bcs thats what I preferred at the time and have switched to shroud since, also when you're me, the ww helps with everyone wanting your dick bcs you're too big of a threat to be left alone, and also helps with taking on multiple targets alone, which is what I love to do, but again, kind of a side note. Now iirc bcs its been a long time, using reckless on spike was the good move, first off bcs it still crit for a good amount and also in order to gain the 3 stacks of melee dmg increase as quickly as possible to start pumping. Again tho you're clearly just ranting and not actually paying attention bcs spike crit for 20k and my discharge which was buffed by my relic proc hit for 29k, so yeah small diff, and def not wasted, but you do you little man. What I find funny is you talk about a reckless charge being wasted when you literally waste an entire opener of 100% crit (not 60% mind you) on shit attacks just to cc the target, and now that you wasted literally everything and still couldnt get the kill bcs that opener doesnt do enough dmg (as opposed to me using my opener to get the target to near death and still having all my cc up to "secure the kill" if I want), now any skilled player who obvi didnt have breaker will absolutely shit on you unless you can manage to run away, I've done it countless times. And if they're not a skilled player, then congrats you've just wasted your time tryharding a now white barred noob which couldve been eliminated in 3.5 seconds but is now prob running away or vanishing and you have no way to stop them from doing so, which is why I almost laughed when you claimed the reason your target was still alive was bcs he was madness, dude was clearly just a bot who had no idea wtf was flying and still made it out comfortably lol yes such skill As to why I use voltaic in the opener, it objectively does more dmg if you use voltaic first before your other abilities, I've tested it many times I assure you. You claim using vs gives ppl the time to use their defensives, however if so they wouldve used them regardless, and wouldve been more inclined to do so if the first hit was bigger than just a voltaic slash, this way you actually seem harmless at first setting yourself up for the big hits, so your logic is completely and utterly flawed. And again, all this is disregarding the fact that it's a warzone where im not tryharding and also most players are bots, so I honestly couldnt gaf if they activate wtvr they wanted, the opener i was using was meant to shred people to shit, and you can clearly see it did. Also picking no cd text as an attempted insult? lmfao aside from the fact thats not even a reach, its just stupidity, if anything all it means is I have enough experience and muscle memory in this game to not need it, but again, you do you my guy. Now I've said nothing bad about you, and have no reason to, you sound like a nice guy, but you should really know who you're coming after, and imo if pwnz really is the best sin you know, then big oof for the euro servers, even tho its true that good sins are all but gone. But tbh him running awakened flame is all I needed to know lmao shit if he asks nicely I might be willing to teach him to play.
I was expecting the title to be clickbait, but that really was a masterclass! Thanks for the guide. I really liked the ending part where you demonstrated it in action with pauses and explanations.
Thanks! Appreciate that :)
I appreciate these guides.
Deception is my preferred class. I have a PT on the side, but I enjoy classes with the upside of being able to pick fights.
this was useful.
If Kiddo still plays, i would love to get some tips and insight from him!
Thanks. He still plays almost every day. You can ask him. He is one of the mods of my Discord
Nice guild bro. Your videos been helping me to gear/spec. For the stats my accuracy is 1100 but it doesnt say 5% like in the video, so i bumped it up to 1300 to hit that number.
That might be because you are missing the 1% companion bonus that you get from playing the story. Not a big deal but until you unlock that, you have to run the 1300 accuracy rating
forums.swtor.com/topic/934618-companion-buffs/?do=findComment&comment=9810257
Awesome video man, keep up the content!
Advanced concealment operative pro guide for pvp next please?
Hmm OK I'll think about that
the best guide for my favorite class
Thanks 😊
hey man! just came back to this video truly a masterclass. Whats the outfit that you use on your shadow? x)
Thanks man! Just logged in to check: the outfit is:
- Nomad Breastplate
- Recon Spotter's Leggins
- Eternal Commander MK-3 Stalker's Belt^
- Exhumed Survivor's Boots
Also, a Furious Saberstaff, awarded to me for my golden performance in Season 3 by Giradda the Hutt. :D
@@ivano1337 thank you
ty so much for this guide been struggling to find content, this was perfect for me
Thanks for watching and the nice comment! 😀
Love your videos ivanno.
Thanks for the comment. Glad you like them!
Love the video! Very detailed and informative. Could you make a video on Carnage Marauder? I play a high alacrity build with the Shard of Mortis, but I feel like all of my hits in PVP are absorbed and dodged by all of the tank specs. I know carnage is almost all white damage, but I still feel that even with 100% Armor Penetration at times, tanks are shrugging it off with ease. Not sure what the best strategy is for that. 😂
Yeah carnage is on the list for sure. As you said, it really struggles against tanks. Not much you can do about that unfortunately except for swapping to unguarded targets and ignore the tank
Gotcha, thanks for the quick response. I look forward to more of your videos! Keep up the good work man! 😎👍
Will do 💪
Carnage guide out now: ua-cam.com/video/mN8-KWljqzo/v-deo.html
Danke mal wieder
Awesome guide! Maybe one for Lethality Op next?
Noted!
that good good German efficiency...aka ORDNUNG!!! Get some...alles gut mein freund. vielen dank!
Ja, genau
What a legend thank you.
Thanks man! Appreciate the kind words
@@ivano1337 I just got back into the game after 2 years away and man its changed a lot. Your guides and vids are amazing and easy to understand which helps get back into it no prob.
in the list you should sniper egineer you have it in b lvl it should be in A. its defense is kinda strong and you can reset them and you can crit up to last i checked 130k their only downside they are squishy when they have no defense and have no escape
You could check out my other video where I explain in detail why put Engi sniper in B-Tier overall. ua-cam.com/video/z8geqj9ARk8/v-deo.html But yeah the burst is NUTS. Guild mate of mine hit 186k on it :O
i want to know engineer secrets :p !!! @@ivano1337
Hey, very cool and detailed guide! I learned a lot. U are talking a lot about using this stun opener, but how would the burst opener look like?
Same thing just leave out low slash and electrocute
But why the second maul before discharge?@@ivano1337
Because Maul does more damage than Discharge.
This is a fantastic guide. Liked and Subscribed. Returning player question.. how do you get your glowing skills icons to display outside of the normal quick bars like that? The verticle line of skills to the right of the window of the gameplay screen you've played. I'm looking at the 26:00 min mark and there are icons between the group window and the player on the screen. Thanks!
Thanks 👍🏻 😊 the glowing skills is an option see: Preferences; User Interface; Buffs and Debuffs: Highlight Triggered Abilities
The vertical line is just another quickbar that I have customized and moved to the center of the screen. I explain how to do it here: ua-cam.com/video/djZJy4zlhX0/v-deo.html
Around 10:34
Thank you for your replies. Sorry for the delay I must have disabled notifications and didn’t realize that there was a reply to my comments. I returned to this video to rewatch and clarify a few things. It’s probably the best class video I’ve seen and I love that you engaged a player you trust since you are no longer playing the class often. Even though you don’t play this much any more your video here in terms of format, content, and practical application is just amazing. I would love to see similar master class videos for other classes even the ones you might not play personally. Because your presentation is a perfect format for the “master class” and something tells me you have other friends like kiddo that would consult :). Anyway long winded way to say, this is the best class video I’ve watched. Thank you!
@@davidfrancis2163 Hey! Thanks for the nice comment! Made my day
I really love the guide! can i just ask if you have a certain most used Rotation after your opening to get the best possible dps out? :)
Glad you enjoyed it! No fixed rotation in pvp, because it is too dynamic. So rather, I use the abilities in the order of priority which I explain in the guide.
So start with priority 1, if that is on cooldown go to priority 2 etc
the stats are they in pvp or fleet?
@@ivano1337
In pvp always
Once I get the 3,8k of critical should I focus on getting versatile augs focusing on mastery or keep focusing on add more crit?
Best to get versatile augs if you can. But you can also use crit if you already have them. Difference is not that big.
I main commando and this video made me laugh/cry
:D
everything looks great but your taking away alot of the burst on the opener with the stun locks i understand keeping them cc but with the low slash and stun takes up the shadowcraft 6 secs 100percent crits . seems most of the burst window for the big crits are not going to make it if you do the stun locks right ?
You still get enough big crits and the advantage is that you're not gonna miss if they're stunned and they can't use defensives (some exceptions apply). Also if you're not alone it's way better to keep them stunned bc noone survives an AP PT burst combined with deception with this stunlock combo.
Hello, a question, what happened to the pvp flags that you placed when killing a player?(removed)?
I actually like using overload saber but the cool down is aweful in comparision to how often you will benefit from the lightning critical passive, personally 1v1 or when you need to burn fast overload saber will proc surging charge several times do an immense amount of damage and heal you makeing it practically as good as the equivalent of taking the two other passives at the same time though the cooldown is over a minute and you can proc surging charge at maximum once per second using overload saber and also heal while the ability is active for 15 seconds. I think the cooldown needs to be shorter for how time limited the ability is.
Idk, how much damage does surging even do? Cant imagine that to be good ever tbh
I wonder if there is any place for assassinate at all.. what do you think?
Yeah if they're below 30%, I will prioritize it over maul (unless proc is about to be overwritten)
My main problem is making sure I have voltage before the fight, how am I supposed to do that? I can't both stealth and keep the stacks up most of the time when I don't know where the enemies are, especially in arena. Either I stealth too long or risk not being able to stealth at all unless I waste cloak
I also see that you ignored voltage yourself in the clips at the start of the fight
You dont need voltage before the fight. Just do normal opener and use Voltaic after.
bioware muss einfach den totenglocken set bonus zurück bringen (melee dmg buff bei reckleness use)
was meinste eig mit blade of the elements nerf? den CD vor einiger zeit oder nen neuen nerf?
BOTE ist immer noch spitze.
grüße
Das wäre stark, yo!
Ich meinte das Talent, was vorher ja den CD von Reaping komplett zurückgesetzt hat, was jetzt ja nur noch 6 sek reduziert. Das war ziemlich OP, jetzt ist es nur noch ok imo.
@@ivano1337 achso , haha.
ich benutze eh das talent mit 20% armor pen lol
What relics do you mean the on use relics or the ones that procs themselves?
There are relics that you can click manually. But i ecommend the normal ones. The ones with 30% chance to proc
@@ivano1337 Thanks for the help :)
How do you guarantee 3 stacks of discharge in attack #4 in your opener?
Also, amazing guide. Easy sub.
Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻Popping Recklessness gives you 3 stacks for Discharge
@@ivano1337 I was referring to first discharge you use before popping recklessness. but i now know that phantom stride is what gives you the 3 stacks.
Ah yeah, you're right ofc
@@ivano1337 I actually have another question if you don't mind. I've been practicing the opener on AI enemies occasionally as I go through story questing, and the stun from my low slash is persisting through discharge even though I only have 1132 alacrity. So is there a mistake in saying we need 2200 alacrity?
If you're still leveling you can get to 1.4 gcd with less alacrity. When we tested this at level 80 it did not work with 1.5 gcd
please defense/immortal next :)
Yep, it's on the list!
@Ivano 1337 how the hell did u get those damage numbers? i never get so high. i do what you say but never had those numbers
What numbers? The one in the character screen? Those dont really matter but maybe you are missing datacrons, legacy companion buffs or class buffs?
I made a video on it here ua-cam.com/video/b7i1BW8mLXY/v-deo.html
Does low slash tech still work in 7.4?
Confirmed! Still brok...ehh working ;)
Ty dude 😂 carefully chose the word tech
Vielleicht nächste mal am dummi zeigen wäre einfacher denke ich aber alles gut danke
Hmm aber da sieht man halt die Stuns nicht richtig
That poor merc man
He had a bad time 😈
I hope you're joking about kiddo being the only one who runs this opener, literally every bot sin in the game has been running that garbage since 6.0, and no offense but if Kiddo really does run that then bro needs to l2p (aside from a lot of other things in this video that make me think so)
Hey, thanks for your comment and for enlightening us with your wisdom!
I checked some of your videos and saw that you already ran "that garbage every bot sins run" in 6.0. I quite like your version, where you wasted a charge of recklessness on Spike. Trademark of a Master Assassin!
Of course, now that they removed Spike from the game, it seems you switched to the Voltaic Slash opener, which is a great use of Shadowcraft and gives your target time to pop a defensive. Fair play is so important!
I have some suggestions for future videos titled: "Shroud is for Noobs: Why you should spec into Whirlwind, but never use it" or "Enabling Cooldown Text is for bots") Do you have any more of these valuable tips? Please share, bro! 💪
@@ivano1337 @ivano1337 looool why so mad little bro, all I said was that opener has been used for forever and is now a trademark of a cc shitter (unless used to fuck with someone or in arenas to get a kill), but certainly shouldnt be the go to rotation taught to players lol.
Now one thing you should know is unlike other people who post their videos, mine are in no way whatsoever my "best matches" or handpicked or any shit like that, theyre literally random ass videos I happened to be recording bcs I felt like it and my old ass pc allowed me to (even tho you can still clearly see insane frame drops and lag nevertheless), so cherry picking little bits of my videos means absolutely nothing as I'm just having fun in them, aside from the fact theyre old af and I've improved considerably since.
But if you wanna get technical we can: first off I have no idea what you're talking about, I use my ww regularly in those videos, and picked it over shroud bcs thats what I preferred at the time and have switched to shroud since, also when you're me, the ww helps with everyone wanting your dick bcs you're too big of a threat to be left alone, and also helps with taking on multiple targets alone, which is what I love to do, but again, kind of a side note.
Now iirc bcs its been a long time, using reckless on spike was the good move, first off bcs it still crit for a good amount and also in order to gain the 3 stacks of melee dmg increase as quickly as possible to start pumping. Again tho you're clearly just ranting and not actually paying attention bcs spike crit for 20k and my discharge which was buffed by my relic proc hit for 29k, so yeah small diff, and def not wasted, but you do you little man.
What I find funny is you talk about a reckless charge being wasted when you literally waste an entire opener of 100% crit (not 60% mind you) on shit attacks just to cc the target, and now that you wasted literally everything and still couldnt get the kill bcs that opener doesnt do enough dmg (as opposed to me using my opener to get the target to near death and still having all my cc up to "secure the kill" if I want), now any skilled player who obvi didnt have breaker will absolutely shit on you unless you can manage to run away, I've done it countless times. And if they're not a skilled player, then congrats you've just wasted your time tryharding a now white barred noob which couldve been eliminated in 3.5 seconds but is now prob running away or vanishing and you have no way to stop them from doing so, which is why I almost laughed when you claimed the reason your target was still alive was bcs he was madness, dude was clearly just a bot who had no idea wtf was flying and still made it out comfortably lol yes such skill
As to why I use voltaic in the opener, it objectively does more dmg if you use voltaic first before your other abilities, I've tested it many times I assure you. You claim using vs gives ppl the time to use their defensives, however if so they wouldve used them regardless, and wouldve been more inclined to do so if the first hit was bigger than just a voltaic slash, this way you actually seem harmless at first setting yourself up for the big hits, so your logic is completely and utterly flawed.
And again, all this is disregarding the fact that it's a warzone where im not tryharding and also most players are bots, so I honestly couldnt gaf if they activate wtvr they wanted, the opener i was using was meant to shred people to shit, and you can clearly see it did.
Also picking no cd text as an attempted insult? lmfao aside from the fact thats not even a reach, its just stupidity, if anything all it means is I have enough experience and muscle memory in this game to not need it, but again, you do you my guy.
Now I've said nothing bad about you, and have no reason to, you sound like a nice guy, but you should really know who you're coming after, and imo if pwnz really is the best sin you know, then big oof for the euro servers, even tho its true that good sins are all but gone.
But tbh him running awakened flame is all I needed to know lmao shit if he asks nicely I might be willing to teach him to play.
lol i remember gfunk, dude is pretty cool
A fellow regulator 💪