What You Can Learn from Japanese Punk Rock
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My favorite Japanese punk bands:
Punk: The Blue Hearts, Stance Punks, The High-Lows, Cobra, Otoboke Beaver
Seishun punk (“youth punk”): Ging Nang Boyz, Going Steady, Mongol800
Melodic Hardcore: Hi-Standard, Hawaiian6
Pop Punk/ power pop: Ellegarden, Tetora, SHANK, Asian Kung-fu Generation (the old stuff), 10-Feet, Beat Crusaders, Wanima, The China Wife Motors, Egg Brain, Good 4 Nothing, Head Speaker, Hump Back
Ska-punk: Yum! Yum! Orange, Kemuri
Horror punk: Balzac
Noise punk: Hijokaidan, Hanatarash
Great picks! I highly recommend Eastern Youth if you haven't heard of them before. Seems like something you'd enjoy, based on the above.
@ I forgot to write Eastern Youth lol great band.
Thanks! That's awesome. Now i have to listen to all of them 🤟
Asian kung fu generation is one of my favorite bands. Their so good!
Have you ever hear of the bands Milk or Sakuran Zensen?
I like bands that use more distortion, but I always noticed the chords thing, it's what makes you be like "oh, sounds like j-rock" or whatever
These videos are great. It's refreshing to see more productions tips for genres that lie between pop and metal. They really open up some windows.
Thanks dude, happy to hear that! I'm glad they're helping in some small way.
Bro. What the fuck is your channel. There's a trillion covers on your older videos.
I'm loving your rebrand. You clearly know what you are talking. Your have an admirable determination .
I've gone through a few shifts over the years 🤣
I don't know about in punk specifically but one thing I appreciated about Japanese Visual Kei artists playing some of the heavier songs is that unlike most Western bands I listened to, they often didn't just have the 2nd guitarist harmonizing the main rhythm riffs, like playing the same riff an octave higher or lower but instead would have two different riffs sometimes syncopating or complementing each other and you could clearly hear it happening too. I only really ever hear it with some Western post-hardcore bands but heard it a lot in a big variety of Visual Kei bands. It highly influenced my own music making. Like one big thing for me is having similar but still different variations or attacks of a rhythm to get my heaviness instead of just double/triple tracking it with layers of basically the same riff. I love adding a bit more texture, grain or little details when you hear it with headphones.
So that difference is actually because J-punk comes from post-punk so its very closer to post hardcore in origin than western punk. the western punk scene is pretty heavily dominated by hardcore derivatives. a lot of melodic punk bands also just arent really scene as punk in the west because we separate alt subcultures a lot differently
@Hexotoxyn Where are you getting the idea that J-Punk is a derivative of Post-Punk? That doesn’t make sense, as the term literally refers to bands that came after the initial boom of punk rock, not before. And there’s already a term for bands predating punk rock - ‘proto-punk.’
You could argue that the earliest punk bands from Japan (like SS, G.I.S.M, The Stalin, and others) had more of a hardcore sound, which then branched out into many other styles and subgenres. But J-Punk isn’t one specific sound or style; it’s just an umbrella term, similar to how it’s used in the West. However, we tend not to single out origin-specific styles in the same way we do with Eastern countries, so it's not common to ever see a term like E-Punk (English Punk), even though we do it for Eastern bands all the time.
But, that’s a whole other can of worms.
Listen to math rock
Just an interesting observation from looking into the band. The drummer is Tsumiki and the guitarist is Surii, both of which are prominent modern vocaloid producers and are worth checking out. The bassist is also the bassist for Yoasobi, which was a pretty interesting suprise. These guys are lowkey a JP super-band, and I'm here for it.
That ending was the perfect ear lesson for why at home sound isn’t what sounds like that on a record I’ve heard yet, thank you for another excellent video!!!
No problem! I'm glad it was a helpful demonstration.
I'm really glad people have noticed this. I've loved J Rock for the longest time so using chords with m7, m9 or sus chords basically comes naturally to me, like in the song I made for a music exam i posted. If you want songs like this, i recommended music from Ling Tosite sigure, Eve, Hitorie, Sokoninaru, etc
Great video man! Really nice job explaining the relationship between chord complexity and gain. I feel like a lot of musicians want to use high gain, but the only type of chords that sound good in high gain are power chords, so because they chose to use high gain, they end up writing songs with less melodic character. It helps so much to write on acoustic or in clean first, then choose a tone like you said.
100%. I think it makes sense for power chords, and if you're doing the single note chugging stuff like in Djent, but if you're playing full barre chords, or anything where you really want to highlight all the notes that make up a more complex chord, a cleaner tone is the best way to go. Thanks for watching!
just commenting here to get the word out akaiko-en awesome band sadly disbanded when guitarist Tsuno Maisa died. the song now on air live is amazing especially with their first singer, Riko Ishino was their second fabulous singer
what so many chords sound awesome completely swamped in gain a complete genre is built around it ever heard of shoegaze?
@@SugarpillProd My bloody valentine sounds great with full baree chords swamped in gain and even reverb so more noise
@@waltarb8573 Yes, but the point of that genre is the polar opposite of what I'm describing here. Shoegaze isn't exactly known for its crystal-clear clarity, is it? The idea of that style is to wash everything out and create soundscapes through walls of noise. You're literally trying to obscure things, not make them sound more pristine.
I think you may have completely missed my point there if your response is, 'Ever heard of shoegaze?'
A friend of mine once described short high gain as hiding. It turns all the interesting nuances of one’s playing into a dense and fizzy mush. It also hides the mistakes to some extent.
This is a pretty good demonstration of what he meant. With the gain down you can hear everything. Every string in every chord, how you’re hitting them and also any mistakes you might make. Can’t hide behind the distortion here.
Haha yes, I totally agree!
yeah but it sounds sick
love this so much ✨ super solid editing! nice theme too 🥰
Thank you so much! I'm a big fan of your channel actually. Your editing is crisp AF 😄
@@SugarpillProd yess! i could spot we share same focused style. it's so clean and easy to follow. you got me inspired this morning :D keep the amazing work!
There's a lot of good Fugazi esque post hardcore out of Japan. Number Girl, Bloodthirsty Butchers, Eastern Youth to name a few
For sure! I think that's one of, if not my favourite styles within J-Punk.
Number Girl basically confessed the bands that influenced them in the song name "Pixie Du"
I found out about Eastern Youth several years ago, I love their somber tone also their musicality exists outside the realm of "3 chord punk" music, gotta love it. Found out about Number Girl recently through Spotify from listening to Eastern Youth, the cabs, Veltpunch (probably my favorite Japanese band), MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS, chouchou merged syrups (I really like them only to find out they disbanded in 2016), etc. Not so much straight punk, has alot of post-rock influence but then again J Rock is kinda it's own lane of rock music. Hard to find bands outside of Japan that sound like it.
@@09lowkey イースタン ユース 日本で最も過小評価されている不遇だが孤高のバンド。
Thank you for the video and focus on Japanese Punk! I achieve a similar tone by using a Keeley Compressor Plus, into a Boss Blues Driver (BD-2) into a clean amp i.e. Marshall, Vox AC30, or Roland JC-120. I normally push the mids pretty high to get that real focused chimey sound with my Jazzmaster or Tele. Using the middle position on the pickup selector switch also can give a nice chimey focused tone, but I normally use my neck pickup depending on pedal setup. Theres a good video on EarthquakerDevicesJP with Hisako Tabuchi of Number Girl/Toddle going over her board and how she uses her BD-2 as her clean sound and just stacks other drives on top of it. I tried for years to achieve that Japanese Punk/Indie guitar tone, only to find that most of the bands I loved used Boss BD-2s on their boards. I really love the tones from bands like The Pillows, Number Girl, my dead girlfriend, Eastern Youth, Quruli, MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS, and Kinokoteikoku.
No problem, thanks for checking it out!
This post is outstanding. I'm going to try that pedal combo out now. Thank you so much for the detailed guidance on how to get that tone.
@@lw1391 No problem anytime, glad to help. I'd love to know if this worked for you.
ah, number girl and eastern youth should be worshiped by anyone even remotely interested in alternative music
@@lovrepetric i agree wholeheartedly. I wish more understood!
Awesome video, great topic to analyse. I feel like Ellegarden hit the sweet spot between Western and Japanese styles of Pop Punk, combining into something truly special.
I feel a good band that somewhat encompasses this style is Good Kid. They’re an Indie Rock band based in Canada and I really can’t compare them to anything else but this. You should check them out!
Awesome, I'll take a listen. Thanks!
Or Kana Boon considering, the last riff sound's basically like Kana Boon.
@@MarmaladeMaki Yeah, that was my clients request when they asked me to write the song 😂
This video is wild! Love it! I'd love a similar video about city pop and japanese jazz fusion, or even a series about japanese punk rock/alt rock
Thank you! I appreciate you checking it out. I'm definitely planning to make more on the genre (and other Japanese styles) in the future!
Love you videos man
Thank so much! I appreciate the support 🙏
Loved this, into the music wisdom playlist it goes
Thanks for watching!
Same!! Wonderful find!
im a guitar player who loves Japanese rock and i usually compose my music just like it , I've always wanted to share its sound with others, there is lots of great indie japanese bands. happy to see a video about it
even their metal/hardcore scene doesn't escape the 7th sus or 9th chord.
I used to think canon rock was j rock, and so was pachelbel lmao I was in middle school at the time.
Japanese bands also tend to use Fender guitars which have a twangier sound with the 25.5" scale vs Gibson's tight 24.75" scale
Thanks for that second part! I have been playing this way for a while but my tone always sounds really bad. My recordings definitely don't give me any credit for the complexity of the cords that I use
Sure thing! It took me a while to fully understand the benefits too. I started noticing that a lot of my favorite bands that used those types of chords also had a similarly clean sound, and then I was like, 'Ah ☝🤓
I absolutely agree with your points on how the chord and tone choices make for interesting music; however, their style is so far from punk that I don't know how anyone could call it that. In fact, the points you made on the calmer and more complex guitar sounds are proof positive of that fact. Light guitar tones, calm vocals, lyrics about personal anxiety rather than being against an outside force, complex chords, the chosen drum patterns and fills: all of these are very typical of more melodic straight rock common in Japan. It's very clean and aesthetic where punk at its heart is aggressive, dirty, and tries to be against commonly held ideas of normally pleasant and aesthetic things.
I disagree. You're conflating one style of Japanese punk as being THE style of Japanese punk, which is false both in the case of Eastern and Western punk. Not all punk is aggressive in sound. If that's your preferred flavour of punk, then cool, you do you. But that's not representative of punk as a whole, it's simply a characteristic of a handful of styles. Were The Blue Hearts defined by their aggressive sound? Not really. Were Ramones, Buzzcocks, The Replacements, and so on? Again, I would say no.
Cloudy are a band I recently came across on insta and I have been loving their sound.
Thank you for this! It's refreshing to see someone covering Japanese sound in general! I've also been looking into their bass sound, how its written, and how it cuts through the mix. If you can do a dive, that'kll be great!
Yeah, I was actually thinking of doing that soon! It seems they favor more of a Music Man-esque type of sound, compared to the traditional P-bass that many western punk bands use. I’ve also had a lot of success using Djent-style MIDI basses in past recordings, whenever going for a J-rock/punk sound. It’s definitely something I’d like to research more and make a video on in the future!
@@SugarpillProd You're right with the tone. I find that they heavily use darkgalss / sansamp overdrives. Please make a vid about it :)
Japanese rock rules, I've taken so many pages out of it, as much as I've taken from the Western stuff haha. Great video!
Me too! Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
As a Japanese who likes punk, I'm glad to see this movie and thank you
Oh thank you, I really appreciate it 🙏
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
Judy and Mary one of my favorite Japanese band.. They were played punk at first influenced by Ramones but they evolve become one of interesting music i ever heard... Yeah their genre becoming blur i don't know whether is punk, pop punk, rock, rockabilly, or even alternative... But its so pleasure to know them
If the music is good, then that's all that matters 👍
I would highly suggest also to listen to Mono, a japanese post-rock band. Their use of both complex structures with delays and reverb tremello picking is really intense, but at the same time it creates an enormous soundscape
Awesome, I'll be sure to check them out. Thanks for the recommendation!
Mono are so good
your videos are so great! thanks man
I appreciate that!
Aooo's members are absolutely stacked, they have tsumiki and three in there brah
You know what this is fascinating. Im subbing.
The low gain tone had more clarity, while the high gain tone did add that "full" feeling even though it muddied up the notes.
Might be interesting to see how it works with Fuzz. Though obviously the clarity won't be as good, but full saturation of extended/advanced chords does sound a lot more interesting than regurgitation of power chords!
Overdrive/distortion/fuzz all have their place. Sure different saturations, levels of gain all have their respected spots. But then again, what sounds clean and clear, might fit just perfect with fully saturated Fuzz for a certain song etc.
I personally thought the last bit was great, sure the overdriven signal before the amp meant the guitar took over alot of the sound, but you could EQ the bass out, or use another amp plugin and drive the sound from there, while doing more subtle tweaks on the overall gain of the input signal.
Then again working on input sound, and sound in general also depends on the player! What works for one person might not work as well for the next, simply because one plays the guitar more aggressive than the other and so forth! Just make sure to mess around a lot and you can find your sound!
All in all, fantastic video, and I absolutely loved both sounds at the end! They both have their own flair, albeit this exact sample did not showcase the broader spectrum of music they could best fit!
Love japanese punk! Something I've seen in j-punk recently is that bands have been using overdrive more often than before. Ken Yokoyama for example, his newer albums using mostly overdrive while his older ones using distortion
Obsessed with MOFD ❤
Aooo is so great! I could see them being huge over the next few years and i could see them inspiring a lot of new gen musicians, kinda like how Yoasobi and AKFG did
very good and informative video, would love to see more videos about japanese punk from you tbh
Thanks! Seems like it's resonated with quite a few people, so I'll definitely look into making more in the near future!
The power of voice leading.
I love the sheer amount of jangle in the guitar tone. I wonder how often j punk uses the royal roads progression. I used to listen to a lot of FACT back in the day, granted they were post hardcore
Yeah I'm all about that jangly guitar tone too. It's definitely a favourite of mine!
You were right. The low gain is actually better. Bravo.
Punk: 😐😐😕💔
Punk, Japan: 😁😁🤩❤
Where's 九狼吽 (CLOWN), Gloom, Gauze, Disclose, D-Clone, Vespera, Mustang, Crude, Reality Crisis, Zilemma and Demolition? The impact of the japanese punk sound is significant even for punk bands for the rest of the world and Nagoya city has had a good scene (or at least it has had in the past, I'm not sure about the scene nowadays) for many of the punk bands for Japan so I would also look there.
For the visuals Akihiko Sugimoto's art is very important for many of the bands' images and it aldo looks really cool! Might want to check out the art style also as it would paint a more holistic picture for the genre as a whole!
All in all a great video! I would be interested to see about the history of Japan's punk scene and it's impact to the sound of today's japanese punk music!
Thank you for this video!
Of course, no problem. Thanks for watching 🙏
Man I love your intrest and educative work especially in punk rock! You should check also check some "balkan or east european" influenced punk bands like early Gogol Bordello, Kultur Shock, Athena etc. Cheers!
Thanks! I'll likely cover some European scenes in the future. Thanks for the recommendations!
i recommend listening to Aooo guitarist "surii" solo songs he has so many interesting and hit songs
Been following him ever since telecaster B boy
This sounds like music from Splatoon (esp C-side and Riot Act from Splatoon 3), which is meant as a huge compliment. I love that music.
Not much of a gamer myself, but that's cool to know 😂
I was thinking the exact same thing. It shouldn't be a surprise that Splatoon's composer(s) took their influence from Japanese pop genres, but Splatoon was the first place I heard this kind of music and its still what I associate it with.
Nice video! I love Japanese punk rock. I've listened to a lot of GING NANG BOYZ, Thee Michelle Gun Elephant and Chatmonchy (I guess you can call it at least "punkish").
Thank you! Those are all great bands too 😁
Hey man, I know I've been commenting a bunch lately, but are you a Bayside fan at all? I just stàrted relistening to them after years and remember how much I love them.
I've never really dived that deep into their music tbh. I saw them live once with ALK3, so I'm somewhat familiar with whatever album they were touring around that time - I think that was around 2014. I guess they're a band I don't mind, but I'm not a super fan or anything.
@SugarpillProd gotcha. I feel like you'd be into the album "the walking wounded" nice fat guitar tracks and pretty sick solos. AK3 is one of my favs. Love the way Skiba writes.
Thanks! I'll check it out. Generally I prefer more angular-guitar styles, if we're talking punk guitar, but I do love some of the more technical bands too, just not that into flashy solos, haha. And yeah I agree, Matt's one of the few songwriters that I think is still putting out songs as good as his peak-era.
Hi my friend I love J Punk rock and I think Ken Yokoyama deserves a vid. It would be great
Ken is great! I'll likely include him somewhere in a future video!
very nice video!
i really wonder why no one in here is complaining about the abscence of actual punk bands from japan such as kuro, gai, d-clone, dust noise, chaos channel, outo, confuse and the list goes on. would love a tutorial about the eerie and psychotic guitar distortion tones these classsic bands feature
Oh there's plenty of people misunderstanding that Japanese punk isn't just hardcore & crust, so don't worry, haha.
Any recommendations on bands that apply some of this but in a slightly heavier context? Like a melodic hardcore/skate punk level of heavy
Otoboke Beaver are really great if you like wild-sounding hardcore punk. Eastern Youth have a pretty eclectic mix of typical punk rock and, later, more Fugazi-esque sounding stuff. Mass of the Fermenting Dregs also do a lot of this, with a noisier, shoegaze twist.
Brave out, no excuse, stand United come to mind wth hardcore
Hollow suns have been touring with hardcore bands but they’re probably not what you mean by melodic hardcore
Ken Yokoyama (Ken Band), Hawaiian6, TOTALFAT, Dradnats, Dizzy Sunfist, GUMX (Korean Singer, rest of the band are japanese I believe), Northern19 and Hi-Standard (slightly more pop punk)
the holy trinity of youthful reckless hardcore: Number Girl, Mass of the fermenting dregs and the cabs. Man the fucking cabs were too good.
@@maninthebox2771 dunno if I’d call them hardcore as much as mathrock (very pedantic)
There is a punk band called MIDORI if you like h punk you should check it out
They're great!
The first two minutes can be summarized as such:
More harmonic information (chord extensions) can be more interesting, but too much harmonic information (distortion) can overwhelm the listener.
There's definitely a fine line between the two. Probably why you don't hear too many jazz guitarists rocking out with Mesa Boogies, haha.
I personally think of Bands such as F*** You Heroes, The Stalin , The Blue Hearts, Stance, Punks, Cocobat, Nunchaku, BBQ Chickens, Slang, and Brahman.
It is more the style I lean towards more the aggressive sound, If you want do this really crucial to make some part of the song to be rhythmically or dynamically complex, more gain, and some really cool bass parts.
Good shout. I've seen Stance Punks live twice (2008 and 2024) and Rahman once.
If you like the Blue Hearts, do you also like the High Lows and Cro Magnons ?
I've been trying to find more music that sounds like this (music that tends to be in a lot of anime intro sequences) but I had no idea what to even search for. I had no idea it was Japanese punk.
Japanese indie, rock and certain styles of punk would all be good starts. It's as varied a scene as it is with most western countries, and those would be good starting points.
Thanks for spreading awareness of how cool J-Punk is man! Maybe one day the pointless arguing and hating over what Punk is will fizzle out and we can just enjoy the music for being music lol
Love this band!!!! nice to see somebody mention them are you familiar with Akaiko-en then? the band Riko used to be in if you don't check them out also Midori
I have! Definitely need to check out more of their work though, so thanks for the reminder!
Could you do a video on the lead guitar parts? I love how it sounds but I almost think it is layered with a synth. Thanks
For which bit specifically? The things I wrote or the Aooo songs?
@ oh sorry. The lead part on the intro of the Aooo song you showed a part of in the video. Sorry I don’t know what the title is because I don’t speak Japanese.
Oh, no worries! I believe it translates to 'Salad Bowl.' I don't think there's any synth going on underneath. You can hear how the note attacks change slightly each time the riff is played through, which normally becomes more obscured once you start layering more dynamically consistent material underneath it. I'd say it's likely a modulation effect - hard to say which one specifically, as there are so many types now, haha. But I'd go with a chorus-style sound; that'll likely get you close. Hope that helps!
@@SugarpillProd Thanks!
It's not punk if you're into theory! 😆😉JK ..love the content you put out man! 🤙👊
That’s the thing - I’m very theory-light because I don’t know a great deal myself. But I’ve literally had people tell me that explaining what a root note is counts as too much theory to be "punk" 💀
really good video, plus you put me on to AOOO so thanks lol. were the chords in the 2nd lesson a reference of another song or was that an original riff ? it was soo catchy !
Thanks, and I'm glad it helped you find Aooo, they're so good! It's a song I wrote or a client, though I don't think it's been released yet.
not punk but i recomemd the cabs!
YES! i recommend sans visage in return
my fav japan band is horror punk band called balzac
You should analyze Anime J-Rock/Pop-Punk intros next
I've never really gotten into anime, but the music is always a bop, haha.
could you drop the names of some of them
@@balloon3503 most of them are from Naruto, like Haruka Kanata by Asian Kung Fu Generation and GO by FLOW.
guitar tones sound nice but at a certain point the low gain is not very punk but more indie rock imo. still sounds great though.
Is there really such a thing as a universal 'punk' tone though? I'd argue it varies massively based on the subgenre - like a typical hardcore tone will sound much different to a post-punk tone. Or a ska punk tone will be very different to a crust punk tone, and so on.
@@SugarpillProd Yeah but that's where composition will come into play. You can take that same non universal tone and play many different genre's. If its punk then its punk. who am I to say otherwise.
Sure, but again, I think it will depend more on the style you're playing in. You’re unlikely to want to use a Mesa sound for the clean offbeat chords in a ska punk song or a 5150 sound in a post-punk track. That’s all I mean by saying there’s no 'universal punk tone' - it really just comes down to what you’re playing, which will likely dictate the best sound for the job.
@@SugarpillProd ah understood.
yes finally someone recognizing the greatness of J-Punk
Gism not mentioned :c
i recommend Four Get Me A Nots
any thing you'd know about the riffs? for me, the riffs is what makes me immediately recognise that it's a jpunk tune (other than the guitar's tone). it's just so..... something about it, y'know?
try kitani tatsuya
Yo, where do you find a Mustang like that?
Looks like a racecar
"Ay-Oh"
I assumed I'd get it wrong 😂
Sakuran zensen is the best j-punk band out right now
I love j-music. It’s so underrated. Why don’t more awesome people like you do this stuff?
Honestly I'm surprised how well this video is going over already. It's refreshing to see there's actually quite a large amount of interest in this, over the more typical western bands that get discussed endlessly.
I'll certainly do more in the future! I just came into this one wanting to talk about how great Aooo is, haha.
@ yeah man. The bass in those songs is phenomenal, like try checking out zutamayo’s song bad dream. The bass on that is just vile
@@backpackmusician Haha yeah Zutamayo's productions are always so fun!
@@SugarpillProd yeah and recently the creepy nuts craze is also on.
can you make something on the bass for J-Punk Rock
Planning to soon 👍
サイコーだぜ、ありがとう。
Thanks for watching!
When I think of Japanese bands I think of Envy, Shikabane and F On The Beach.
My favourite guitar pedal to use playing this style is still boss da2
Kid ya not you can hear every string note with it, downside is it sounded kinda bad when playing alone. 😂
Honestly, a lot of 'good' things sound bad in isolation, that's why explaining the basic concepts of mixing to a lot of toan lords is so hard to do 😂
@ I agree tho boss effects sometimes do feel a bit sterile when playing. Not as sticky as high end modeler and effects.
My guitar buddy kinda shocked when all i used is just boss da2 and jc40 😂
Hmm maybe I should try Aooo Salad Bowl to demonstrate it.
you should check out ging nang boyz!
Already familiar, but yes, they're very good!
This is slightly unrelated but perhaps this is why I've always felt like newer Green Day's music was weaker in intensity than their older stuff. Because their new music tends to use a much cleaner guitar tone that fits in a mix better, but they still rely exclusively on 3 note power triads rather than complex chords, which would be better suited towards their older heavily distorted sound
Yeah, I can sort of see what you mean. I think you could make a case for that, particularly regarding the production on the trilogy records. That said, I think they did a much better job of making things sound a bit rawer and heavier on subsequent releases, like RevRad.
If you double-track the guitars anyway, why don't you put the more complex notes on different tracks to distort them individually?
You can do, though it wouldn't quite sound the same, depending how you separate them out. But breaking chords up into higher and lower register parts is a great technique, it just depends on the sound you're going for.
They sound like if Tricot went harder after their first album instead of going pop
..maybe not. Was kinda hoping though
Whatever became of the FiveSixSevenEights ?
5,6,7,8s are still gigging. Played in the UK autumn 2024 and have gigs lined for Australia in Spring 2025 and doubtless many more besides. They have a single being released by Timebomb Records in March 2025.
The same guitar tone is similar to some post-punk and c86 style tones
For sure! I can definitely see the parallels to those genres.
Would you consider Last Alliance punk?
I'm really not one to say what is and isn't punk. If you like it, then listen to it. Doesn't matter what arbitrary label others will want to slap on it 👍
@SugarpillProd that's fair ＼(^o^)／ I was just curious what other people would say because I don't know what to classify them as
Aooo mentioned? Crazy
The video was basically just an excuse for me to get the chance to talk about them, haha.
What are the 4 chords u use in the example at the end?
whats that song throughout the video? it was used for the outro. thanks
Oh it's just an old demo of mine I never really did anything with, so I use it as background music now, haha.
Worth mentioning the guitar itself and pickups/pickup position are more important than whatever digital/physical amp you use for this kind of tone.
It’s so characteristic of the vintage Fender/hendrix/frusciante sound, which is ofc pretty easy to get from a strat or a telecaster, the strat being more well rounded and adaptable to higher distortion, the tele being a jangle machine ideal for this kinda “high gain but not distorted” type modern indie rock sound (I know it’s j-punk but that tone was really popularised in the late 00s early 10s when the whole indie/hipster movement was on the rise. Same tone just less gain, over time seems like the tone got used way way more broadly, ranging from indeed j-punk, all the way up to heavy metal (people like Helix Nebula, or like Sithu Aye is the most obvious “I use _that_ tone” example I can think of, but it’s subtly found in so much modern music as of the last 10-15 years.
I wouldn't necessarily agree. Pickups, sure, if we're just talking, say, single coils vs. humbuckers. The guitar itself, though? I would heavily disagree. I think that leans a bit too much into the myth that electric guitars sound drastically different from one another - when there's a ton of evidence out there showing they really don't. A tele and strat, both of which have the same pickup, will sound near-identical.
The only things that will change the sound drastically are the onboard electronics and the amp you choose. However, as I mentioned in the video, it's really about setting the gain right. Obviously, an Orange amp will sound different from a Marshall, but I'd say you'll get usable results from both, as long as the gain is in the right ballpark.
Riff one I walk into chilis rift 2im going into a new world don't know with a weird love interest
Let’s face it: This is all pop punk.
Let's face it: you'll call anything you don't like pop punk.
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sometimes people forget punk is dead
@@superultrathanksmom3845 It's really not. If all you listen to is bands that came out 50 years ago, then I understand why you'd think that. But to say it's a dead genre is objectively wrong.
I faced it and I LIKE it! ✌️😎😂🎸
There's probably no one over society as that of someone living in japan
My favorite j punk bands are 80s bands like GISM, Ghöul, & Lip Cream
It's refreshing to hear someone say, 'This is my favorite style,' instead of, 'Only the specific brand of punk I like is what I deem punk.' 🤣 Great attitude - keep it up! 👍
someone knows the exact model of the guitar in the thumbnail? i know its a fender mustang but dunno which model
2023 mij traditional 60's mustang RW
Question, where did you get the FRKH 4x12 GB ROY 121 Center.wav?
I thought that was gibberish at first, until I realised what you were asking 😂 Unless it was one of the stock ones that come with NadIR, then it may have been from a pack by ML Sound Lab or OwnHammer. I feel like it's a stock one though, if I had to guess.
Japanese bass lines are also a lot more melodic, often dropping a sick bar when there's a hint of the 7 chord getting stale. And on top of that the guitar fills which sound like saxophone arrangements. All of that shows how much Jazz is in the DNA of modern Japanese pop, rock and punk the way (other) Blues is in the DNA of 'western' music.
So it's not just punk bass, it's J-rock too. Jazz is the answer to spicing anything up.
whoever wrote the background song at 2:44 must've heard 델리스파이스's 챠우챠우 :)
ah, and something else - don't forget LOADS of compression when mixing practically all the instruments, and also let them sometimes blow into the red zone, then do appropriate frequency ironing later. number girl's third album is full of reds right from the first note
It's an old demo of mine actually. Can't say I've ever heard that song before, but I do hear some similarities, haha.
How can I transform a simple power chords progression into something more complex like uou did??
You can try changing the chord type while keeping the same root note. For instance, if you have a progression of B5, C#5, and D5, you could change those to 7ths and play Bm7, C#m7, and Dmaj7 instead.
The good thing about power chords is that they are neither major nor minor, which gives you a lot of flexibility to shape them into more interesting sounds if you wish. Often, I’ll start with a basic root note bass line, or perhaps some power chords or octaves. Once I have the basic root notes figured out, I’ll experiment with different chord types to see if they sound better. Hope that helps!