Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann doesn't just have the power to pierce the heavens, you left out its ability to CREATE the heavens a much much greater feat if you ask me
Tbh if in the earlier battle there was an attack with almost the power of a BIG BANG and previously before that just shattering Dimensions casually and BEFORE THAT there was missles that will LITERALLY BREAK TIME AND SPACE JUST TO HIT YOU! Yeah STTGL could have the potential to reverse time and space easy and sure CREATE THE HAVENS
@Bruce Wayne I would need to read up on that I believe that's the potential as the Anti-Spirals Kamehameha before hand had the power of a Big Bang so...somewhere close if they powered up even more in the final attack
I like how the second movie ends with Simon literally creating a system to use spiral power with no tech, like who the hell gave him the right to be that badass!?
the one who gave him all that was his will and kamina's inspiration, and girl's impulse by the way I literally create a damn spiral super universe with nothing but its spiral power, first I create gurren lagann out of nowhere, then arc gurren lagann out of nowhere, then super galaxi gurren lagann, then a planet where sggl is, then I create solar systems, then a mega galaxy the size of a multiverse and just like that with nothing but its spiral power I create something out of nothing
"Countless Galaxies " That's partially true, its more like Countless UNIVERSES. This is the moment Gainax said "Don't ask for the scale it cannot be comprehended, even we don't know
literally what people see: damn they launch galaxies those who researched and calculated and accomplished this: they are not multiverses Expliation: it is a super spiral universe where a galaxy has a super spiral center, and allows them to have the power and size of a giant universe, and ttgl is made up of an infinite multiverse created by Simon behind the extradimensional labyrinth
I was about to say and be annoyed by hearing these guys mixing up a galaxy and the authors impression of a universe. I remember hearing multiple times that the mangaka and animators didn’t know wat a universe actually looks like so they decided to draw them basically the same as a galaxy. So by the time the final final happened the mechs became so big they were treating universes as baseballs.
No matter how many years pass, no matter how many times I watched it. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann will aways be my number 1 anime of all time. It's hard to dethrone it as it's so over the top and insane that i love it.
@@SherudonD as a big Gurren Lagann and one piece fan I have to say just looking at the anime then Gurren Lagann is without a doubt better but if we compare it to the one piece manga, then I have a hard time picking between them But what I can say both of them do the exact same thing, show the full potential of anime and manga, both are crazy, funny and ridiculous while delivering some of the most emotional scenes and show some real world problems They are both a modern epic, a coming of age story everybody should read or watch
@The Fantom Convoy the comment u replied to had nothing to do with originality the guy just said it must have been fun coming up with the ideas what u reply with, what does it have to do with that? does it disprove the idea that the creator had fun coming up with the ideas? you just felt the need to reply with something unrelated cuz you're salty gurren lagan is popular
The Fantom Convoy I mean I haven’t seen a mecha anime nearly the same or as close as gurren lagann you sound mad that STTGL wipes the floor with your favorite gundam anime I presume ?
Yeah but Goku fans love to pull the old "But he'll get stronger and achieve a new form!". Debating with a DBZ fan is like trying to talk to a wall sometimes.
what i love about the spiral energy, is that is the representation of one pure will to keep going, the stronger the will or wills, the stronger the energy, they were basically representing the will of all living beings to keep fighting and denial to surrender and die or being conquer... hence the size ..... the anti spiral never stood a chance
Well sadly the true meaning of the spiral energy was cut out just as the og ending the creater was a fan of Getter Robo so he wanted to end it in same way. As 98 Armageddon with Team Dai guren drawn into an alternative Timeline where they would fight the anti spiral forever with thounds and thounds of other version of themselves just as that the Spiral Energy have the Same Nautre as Getter rays
@@kevinbaumhoer7359 that is something disturbing By the way, what are you doing here in 2021 about a week ago? well at least I don't end up as getter emperor At least that would have been something I don't know how to say
You know, I consider this series the antithesis to Evangelion and somewhat to getter robo, its more like gaining confidence in yourself, Evangelion had Shinji spiral into depression, Getter Robo had everyone spiral into insanity due to be getting overcome with Getter Rays, but Gurren Lagann has the characters spiral into confidence. If anything, Gurren Lagann is about gaining self esteem. Simon went from a simple digger to the guy who can save the universe from a bunch of shut ins, kind of like he was since he lived in an underground village and didn't expect it to be any different until he met his brother and Yuko. And if he didn't find the Lagann, he wouldn't have lived life, the excitement of seeing the world, even if it broke his heart in the end, he learned life was worth living due to all the happy moments he experienced, unlike the anti spirals who shut themselves away and don't really live life, they just destroy it and hide in their own pocket dimension, scared to experience life. Either that or they get free pizza delivery as supposed rulers of the universe and don't have anything else better to do. Does this make any sense to anyone because I'm not sure if I make sense to anyone else, but I guess I just have to have confidence that someone understands what I'm saying.
Well, like I said, I'm not sure if I'm making sense, (Spoilers) but at the end of manga for Getter Robo Go, the pilots basically fuse into Shin Getter Robo and go "Yeah, this feels nice, this weird energy that is slowly taking my essence into it, making me evolve into an energy being, slowly turning me into Mecha-Cthulhu, feels pretty nice". And then they merged Shin Getter Robo into a planet that created the most feared Getter Robo in all of existence. With the voice that makes galaxies quake in terror: CHANGE GETTAAAAA EMPEROR ONE! SWITCH ON(quote found on Getter Robo Tv tropes page).
Yeah, a wandering hobo that helped people out with their issues, from a village not getting any water, to a kid just wanting some food. Still, maybe the spiral nemesis was just a paranoid delusion made up by the anti-spirals to justify what they were doing. Wouldn't be the first time someone did that.
well thats not entirely true. He chooses not to use it because he doesnt want to show people to rely on spiral power. If he solves every problem with spiral power others will want that power as well. If you cant do something you only need more power. To the point where the spiral nemesis occurs. He is basically doing what you would consider impossible. Showing some fucking restraint
By popular demand, here it is. Would you believe that my video editor crashed over 50 times just to get this video made? kek Happy 10th anniversary Gurren Lagann!
D180223 After zeorymer you should do demonbane and his forms so that people can finally learn why he is so much more powerful than STTGL... Btw I love gurren Lagann and all but demonbane is much more powerful it's ridiculous anybody would think STTGL could beat it
@@ravoniesravenshir3926nah I would rather see someone spiral power dangerously evolve to the point that they might cause the spiral nemesis and have to be defeated by whatever new main character they pick
For anyone that doesn't know this, the author for Gurren Lagann and animators actually downplayed how massive these attacks are. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is the size of the entire universe. Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is 58.2 Billion light years tall. If we use our own universe as a reference, its only 15 billion light years tall at maximum currently(it expands slowly overtime). This makes the Super version 3.8 times bigger than the universe or 3.8 universes tall. THEN, we have the Super version using the Super Giga Drill Break which is 180 times the size of the mecha which makes the drill bigger than 50 universes tall EASILY. Do you know how massive that is?.....If you don't, I want you to go look up a video of how tiny we are on our planet in comparison to the entire universe, then come back and see this. Granzenboma even managed to match that power which caused all universes(not just galaxies because that also got downplayed heavily) to be absorbed in both drills and cause a Big Bang even bigger than the original Big Bang or the Infinity Big Bang attack that Granzenboma used in a weaker form. This doesn't even include the massive amounts of hax abilities they have(can do anything the Infinity Gauntlet can do and more by A LOT). The only anime characters that would even be capable of beating Team Dai Guren would be Truth from FMA, The Creator(Umineko), Kami Tenchi or some other Omni level god(No, Zeno cannot beat them because he has no hax abilities and clearly a universal explosion or multiple isn't enough). This means that 99% of anime couldn't even come close to touching Gurren Lagann.
When I first watched TTGL I thought I was gonna hate it after Simon becomes Shinji. Thank goodness for that best scene in any anime ever when Simon's theme plays, it drilled its way up to my most favorite mecha anime
Thank goodness he did not become a shinji although I do not understand why they hate him if it is logical to be like this I know you don't want to get on the eva and that makes you mad but we don't hate it so much we have to understand how your mind works don't they want realism they want a badass being with unreal feelings
The Spiral Nemesis is the result of an excessive amount of Spiral Energy in the universe. Simon alone can't create it but can definitely contribute a large amount to it.
Ideon would probably die first. Super Tengen Toppa and Getter Emperor might destroy each other (not 100% sure though) and Zero would just be watching it all play out.
You guys really forgot about how big a part the music makes in the anime. The overall narrative of the anime is fed to the viewer from the lyrics of the music. Also thanks for not spoiling some stuff; respect that, and for posterity sake, 3:42 Gurren Lagann was a part of 4chan before /b/ died of cancer.
Gurren Lagann was the first Mecha show I completed and I loved it all the way! That final fight was completely mind blowing, One of the best ever, especially the Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Break I think it's pronounced that way in Japanese
I have never watched Gurren Lagann, but I am pretty sure I have seen everything I needed to know after watching this vid... I am not sure if I will ever see anything more outrageous than this...
Trusted gundam There is, the genre of super robots and real robots is filled with so many mecha after all, the most well known mecha that could beat Super Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagannn is demonbane for a whole crap load of reasons STTGL would need some really bullshit plot armor reasons to survive and a nerfed demonbane. Though Gurren Lagannn fans tend to Denine the fact that GL isn't the strongest mecha ever nor biggest cause demonbane when in is elderly God demonbane form he's so large he would destroy universes just by moving.
Yeah I am more into the real robot genre than super robot. On that note of like most powerful mecha out there I would still kinda say it goes to Mazinger Zero after watching the explain vid on him. I mean come on how can you beat a guy that can go into the "real world" and erase things out of existence lol
Trusted gundam The problem with that is demonbane cannot entirely be erased he's really overpowered he when compared to mazinger zero as power as mazinger zero is demonbane is stronger also he can summon infinite verisons of himself them being verisons that exist, did exist, don't exist, or shouldn't exist. Also theres his weapon which I REALLY don't feel like typing a long ass comment so I will just suggest pooking it up.
@@dol_mel7487 Mazinger Zero will win against Elder God Demonbane. In the game it stated that it takes both Demonbane AND Liber Legis doing a double Shining Trapezohedron to bring ZERO down. And this is ZERO asking them to stop him.
He was Jesus. His death saved humanity, not immediately maybe, but it is his return from the dead to wake up Simon in the Anti-spiral labyrinth that allows spirals to finally triumph.
Mizumi Karasawa highly unlikely tbh....just finished the game. though I must say it does indeed fit the whole theme of "voyage" and "love" so its a shame they didn't use the opportunity to bring GL
We've already got an insanely OP unit for V. Mazinger Zero. imagine getter emperor, ttyl, Mazinger zero, and demonbane in a final dynamic special though!!!
Just watching the clips gave me shots of adrenaline. Hands down, the best anime I've seen, I hope they don't reboot it or make a crappy life action version, the animation style alone makes the show so powerful.
what i liked about this vid was the part where you guys tell the other works of the artists behind the anime that way we wouldnt have to google them ourselves and maybe show some appreciation and actually watch their other creations DO NOT STOP DOING THIS. I ACTUALLY SUBSCRIBED ONLY BECAUSE OF THIS. CHEERS
But, what about the downsides of finishing off the anti-spiral? You mention about Nia being created by the Anti-Spiral, however with the anti-spiral no longer around, she soon too vanishes. My guess is, to keep spoilers out, however it is a good point, along with Simon retiring and allowing the younger generations to step up, just like the revolutions of the drill pushing forward.
what is the difference between shinji and simon shinji: I don't want I don't want to go up to the eva Simon: come on friends we will go beyond the limit and cross the sky they ended up being Shinji ended humanity and the world Simon saved all spiral beings in the universe and defeated a god
anyway, bandai needs to get their crap together. other than the anime and origin/thunderbolt NONE OF THE MEDIA FOR GUNDAM HAS BEEN PUBLISHED OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. This series is one of the most popular manga for gundam EVER and it NEEEEEEDS to be localized.
thx for explaining spiral power, I always thought that the sources of spiral power is hope or never give up on any obstacle that come in your ways and always believe in your goal that you want to achieve even-thought, there is obstacle in your ways
Watching this makes one realize how TTGL might resemble a "fast food anime" which is kind of dumb in many ways... But this one is special. It's *gourmet fast food*
By far my fave mecha work ever. Thanks for covering it! It may be a far longer video, but could you cover variable fighters from Macross? I know there are a lot of them but it would be awesome to see their evolution.
Loved Gurren Lagann for its action, power, character development and story. This show is the most optimal show in Anime history. They are fighting on Galaxies!
The ability to "raise the dead" was never confirmed, and I am inclined to believe the one charcter who asked Simon to use the "spiral energy" to bring back the fallen only asked Simon to do that thinking they had the power to do that, and Simon who is just a regular living human obviously doesnt have some super brain so he just responded charismaticaly with what he believed was the right thing to say/do without even knowing himself if he could raise the dead. Since what "Spiral Energy" actual is, the concept of life & evolution is constantly moving forward, like time..you can't reverse the effects of life...that's the *one thing that absolutely cant be done* unless one was God themself. They can obtain many many many God like abilities, like creating & destroying universes, or HECK even manipulating/controlling time can be done , but *NOT* control/manipulate Life ...as again, that's *not* how "Spiral Energy" works or can even be used as it would completely go against the very concept of "Spiral Energy". *BECAUSE:* "Spiral Energy" is just the energy used to represent the will to live ...it's literally the the energy that's produced from a living beings will to survive & struggle out of pure heart/spirit. In simpler terms it's just literally the concept of evolution/life manifested as energy. And the few who have the strongest passion for survival a.k.a. passion to live/survive, can actually manifest the concept of life/evolution into physical energy in amounts so concentrated that whatever their heart/spirit/emotions *(their desire I simpler words)* is focused on is effected by that overwhelming amount of emotion/desire/energy. Simon & Kamina just happen to find some advancedly scientifically created technology (mech) that was designed to actually harness that energy in its physical state, and thus, the first mech users called it "Spiral energy" ...and since simon has SOOOOOO much hope & unstoppable will to live, survive, and protect, that energy is literally converted into physical usable energy, hence why there is *literally NOTHING* that can beat any person who has an unbreakable spirit/heart. ...making them quite literally a mortal god in the universe of Gurren Laggan.
@@Coldbreeze69 cause he was already alive mate. Hence his talking head. Remember, his brain was cloned, so they kept the head hooked up to a machine keep it alive...and since hes actually "alive" and since his cells contains helix-shaped DNA structures, he therefore was organisim/being that had access to "Spiral Energy" ...which incase you didn't understand *(as the show makes some parts of the explanation a little unclear for younger audiences)* "Spiral energy" is literally just the energy living organisms use to "grow" from survival which allows a species/organism to go through evolution...hence why the "ANTI-Spiral" "Stopped" their DNA evolution ..as by just simply being living, growing evolving organisms the oppertunity for life to continue evolving, and the energy living organisms with helix shaped-DNA structures would use in order to evlove/grow is what Anti-Spirals feared would be the destruction of the universe. So essentially, they wanted to halt all life from growing and evolving due to a theory they came up with I also already explained this in the original comment.
i wonder what would happen if there was a true god in gurren lagann How do we know if spiral power is the power of evolution it means that God is the final evolution, and by creating the spiral energy he can manipulate and change it, so no other being could change that energy
Thanks for the explanation. I never actually saw the whole series myself but its popularity is so vast that even I can recognize it. Just from this, it easily earns the record of being the most over-the-top Anime series in existence! And I thought Getter Emperor and Mezinger Zero were insane.
This show is easily in my top 10 anime of all time, no doubt about that. And as a correction, when Granzeboma and STTGL each created their Giga Drill Breaks in the movie, those small dots around them were universes, not galaxies, as after STTGL debuted he was still growing massively in size.
The one issue I tend to have with these mechs is the size. Namely what we are told vs what we actually see. For example, we are told that the titular mecha is several millions light years big, yet from what we see in the show it is a couple of thousands at most. And further muddling things is that those things supposedly take place in a special universe with different rules. This becomes apparent when a tear is created and we can see the Earth. This taken into consideration when also comparing the Anti-Spiral home-world and we can tell that the mechs are far smaller, about the size of the Earth/Moon system, give or take. Still unreasonably huge by most metrics, but nowhere near as universe shattering as most assume.
This was great to watch, it brought back some good memories for me. Fantastic video. Have you thought of talking about Tetsujin 28? I feel like there's a lot to say in regard to that (of course, I've only watched the 2004 series, but still).
@@wagdawgwag872 yes and no. Its the first robot anime even though the pilot used a remote control for an rc car and didnt pilot the robot as we know it. The first truely piloted robot was mazinger z
woah you got best guy ever to do a collab the awesome dude. gurren lagann has turned into one of my favorite anime in the previous year and im really glad you this vid good job.
can but does not want because even that would dishonor his valuable sacrifice and even though it hurts you have to learn to cope with that bite and move on honoring his memory
I wonder if a universal catastrophe would appear and an Simon is needed, will the Lagann respond to Simons call. I imagine something like Mjolnir flying through space to Thor
Now there is alot of robot that I want you to talk about, here's a list, hope you can have a consider and keep up the awesome work! Kotetsushin Jeeg, Dancuga or perferly Dancuga Nova, Mazinkaiser, King Gainer and My boi---ZOID GENESIS, MURASAME LIGER
a very good video i my self love both the anime and both films so i am very pleased that you did your homework right and made such a nice to watch video thank you for your time and stress you put in it!
I used to think Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann will always be league above every other mechs in terms of strength.... But then I played SRWZ3 lol. The whole concept of Spiral Energy proves that any living being is capable of utilizing the Spiral Energy, meaning as long as you can draw, just about any mech can turn Tengen Toppa as so you desire lol.
No, not every living spiral being can just will any mech into existence, kamina for an example, had very little potential for spiral energy compared to simon, everyone has a limit, some may not have much but others like simon have basically no limit.
One thing i noticed, It may or may not be intentional, but "I have the best wife in the universe swing" may have been inspired by Getter Robo too Specifically Getter 3's Daisetsu-zan Oroshi!
Great vid. When watching the final battle of the original anime one thing I realised was that TTGL also riffs off the long running shonen fighting manga/anime, with each new form being a "power up" of the hero. The only difference being Gainax squishes their DBZ/Naruto/etc story into 27 eps rather than the drawn out hundreds of episodes we get from those series.
My wife is the best in the universe Swing is the manliest attack ever seen.
Samuel RJP it's a call back to the first episodes.
+Michael awdry the who the hell do you think I am kick and hands off my little bro punch
Ki sastu Cho tengen toppa giga dorillu buuuureaku!!!
Best attack name goes too:
Ur rigth also dont tell anyone i told you but that line was kinda simp
"Just who the hell do you think I am?"
Quite the memorable quote
I prefer: "You can't possibly accomplish all of that!"
"JUST WATCH US!!!"
Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann doesn't just have the power to pierce the heavens, you left out its ability to CREATE the heavens a much much greater feat if you ask me
Except that it did no such feat. It was just a figurative speech Simon said during his final clash with the Anti-Spiral.
No harm done 😄
D180223 *STTGL is bigger than the observable universe*
"Bro, I think we missed the heavens."
Tbh if in the earlier battle there was an attack with almost the power of a BIG BANG and previously before that just shattering Dimensions casually and BEFORE THAT there was missles that will LITERALLY BREAK TIME AND SPACE JUST TO HIT YOU! Yeah STTGL could have the potential to reverse time and space easy and sure CREATE THE HAVENS
@Bruce Wayne I would need to read up on that I believe that's the potential as the Anti-Spirals Kamehameha before hand had the power of a Big Bang so...somewhere close if they powered up even more in the final attack
I like how the second movie ends with Simon literally creating a system to use spiral power with no tech, like who the hell gave him the right to be that badass!?
the one who gave him all that was his will and kamina's inspiration, and girl's impulse
by the way I literally create a damn spiral super universe with nothing but its spiral power, first I create gurren lagann out of nowhere, then arc gurren lagann out of nowhere, then super galaxi gurren lagann, then a planet where sggl is, then I create solar systems, then a mega galaxy the size of a multiverse and just like that with nothing but its spiral power I create something out of nothing
@@alexanderdavidlocarnogomez3441 girls impulse?
@@ZaiDrizzleDrop nia,sorry translation
@@alexanderdavidlocarnogomez3441 75% of his power if from his own power and Kamina's impression it was only like 25% nia
@@madtony1608 Well, 25% is still a great part of it. Still crying that he lost his two loves, one fraternal and the other romantic.
"Countless Galaxies "
That's partially true, its more like Countless UNIVERSES.
This is the moment Gainax said
"Don't ask for the scale it cannot be comprehended, even we don't know
literally
what people see: damn they launch galaxies
those who researched and calculated and accomplished this: they are not multiverses
Expliation: it is a super spiral universe where a galaxy has a super spiral center, and allows them to have the power and size of a giant universe, and ttgl is made up of an infinite multiverse created by Simon behind the extradimensional labyrinth
@@alexanderdavidlocarnogomez3441 where’d you get this info
@@officialamatsu the extra materials and creator notes.
I was about to say and be annoyed by hearing these guys mixing up a galaxy and the authors impression of a universe. I remember hearing multiple times that the mangaka and animators didn’t know wat a universe actually looks like so they decided to draw them basically the same as a galaxy. So by the time the final final happened the mechs became so big they were treating universes as baseballs.
@@officialamatsu Novelization too. It describes all the processes in greater detail.
17:06
"My wife is the best in the universe swing"
Me: Super long ass ridiculous attack name but may be THE best attack name EVER
Man on fire blazing chariot kick still takes the cake for me
it sure is the best attack you can name
or if it would not be this attack
Super Mega Total Precision Legendary Energy Ball Launch
No matter how many years pass, no matter how many times I watched it.
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann will aways be my number 1 anime of all time.
It's hard to dethrone it as it's so over the top and insane that i love it.
One piece is better
@@SherudonD No you dumbass kill la kill is better
@@SherudonD no
Yes it is
@@SherudonD as a big Gurren Lagann and one piece fan I have to say just looking at the anime then Gurren Lagann is without a doubt better but if we compare it to the one piece manga, then I have a hard time picking between them
But what I can say both of them do the exact same thing, show the full potential of anime and manga, both are crazy, funny and ridiculous while delivering some of the most emotional scenes and show some real world problems
They are both a modern epic, a coming of age story everybody should read or watch
Looks like writer of TTGL was having fun when he was coming up with these ideas
@The Fantom Convoy salty
@The Fantom Convoy the comment u replied to had nothing to do with originality
the guy just said it must have been fun coming up with the ideas
what u reply with, what does it have to do with that?
does it disprove the idea that the creator had fun coming up with the ideas?
you just felt the need to reply with something unrelated cuz you're salty gurren lagan is popular
@The Fantom Convoy oh shit u still in here salty as ever? 😂
still thinking what you're saying still holds relevance to the original post 😂
STTGL: Heheheheheheheheeh
The Fantom Convoy I mean I haven’t seen a mecha anime nearly the same or as close as gurren lagann you sound mad that STTGL wipes the floor with your favorite gundam anime I presume ?
"but can he beat Goku tho"
yes, yes he can
Yeah but Goku fans love to pull the old "But he'll get stronger and achieve a new form!". Debating with a DBZ fan is like trying to talk to a wall sometimes.
YOU FOOL WE JUST NEED A STRONGER MECH THAN GOKU
GOING STRONGER THAN CHOU TENGEN TOPPA GURREN LAGANN
WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE
@@user-ts6yl2by2t It’ll just be a never ending stand off of them gaining new forms
@@showmeyourtuts3670 That is a worse fate for the multiverse than anything else
Goku doesn't have any feats, so that's an obvious yes 😂
what i love about the spiral energy, is that is the representation of one pure will to keep going, the stronger the will or wills, the stronger the energy, they were basically representing the will of all living beings to keep fighting and denial to surrender and die or being conquer... hence the size ..... the anti spiral never stood a chance
Well sadly the true meaning of the spiral energy was cut out just as the og ending the creater was a fan of Getter Robo so he wanted to end it in same way. As 98 Armageddon with Team Dai guren drawn into an alternative Timeline where they would fight the anti spiral forever with thounds and thounds of other version of themselves just as that the Spiral Energy have the Same Nautre as Getter rays
@@kevinbaumhoer7359 that is something disturbing
By the way, what are you doing here in 2021 about a week ago?
well at least I don't end up as getter emperor
At least that would have been something I don't know how to say
You know, I consider this series the antithesis to Evangelion and somewhat to getter robo, its more like gaining confidence in yourself, Evangelion had Shinji spiral into depression, Getter Robo had everyone spiral into insanity due to be getting overcome with Getter Rays, but Gurren Lagann has the characters spiral into confidence.
If anything, Gurren Lagann is about gaining self esteem. Simon went from a simple digger to the guy who can save the universe from a bunch of shut ins, kind of like he was since he lived in an underground village and didn't expect it to be any different until he met his brother and Yuko. And if he didn't find the Lagann, he wouldn't have lived life, the excitement of seeing the world, even if it broke his heart in the end, he learned life was worth living due to all the happy moments he experienced, unlike the anti spirals who shut themselves away and don't really live life, they just destroy it and hide in their own pocket dimension, scared to experience life. Either that or they get free pizza delivery as supposed rulers of the universe and don't have anything else better to do.
Does this make any sense to anyone because I'm not sure if I make sense to anyone else, but I guess I just have to have confidence that someone understands what I'm saying.
Well, like I said, I'm not sure if I'm making sense, (Spoilers) but at the end of manga for Getter Robo Go, the pilots basically fuse into Shin Getter Robo and go "Yeah, this feels nice, this weird energy that is slowly taking my essence into it, making me evolve into an energy being, slowly turning me into Mecha-Cthulhu, feels pretty nice". And then they merged Shin Getter Robo into a planet that created the most feared Getter Robo in all of existence. With the voice that makes galaxies quake in terror: CHANGE GETTAAAAA EMPEROR ONE! SWITCH ON(quote found on Getter Robo Tv tropes page).
only to end a lonely hobo who cant use his spiral power in fear of the spiral nemesis, so much for doing the impossible
Yeah, a wandering hobo that helped people out with their issues, from a village not getting any water, to a kid just wanting some food. Still, maybe the spiral nemesis was just a paranoid delusion made up by the anti-spirals to justify what they were doing. Wouldn't be the first time someone did that.
well thats not entirely true. He chooses not to use it because he doesnt want to show people to rely on spiral power. If he solves every problem with spiral power others will want that power as well. If you cant do something you only need more power. To the point where the spiral nemesis occurs. He is basically doing what you would consider impossible. Showing some fucking restraint
We all can't be kamina's there needs to be Rossiu's.
By popular demand, here it is. Would you believe that my video editor crashed over 50 times just to get this video made? kek
Happy 10th anniversary Gurren Lagann!
D180223 After zeorymer you should do demonbane and his forms so that people can finally learn why he is so much more powerful than STTGL... Btw I love gurren Lagann and all but demonbane is much more powerful it's ridiculous anybody would think STTGL could beat it
Please do Demonbane!
Yu Narukami agreed!
Hopefully he'd be able to cover both visual novels and the light novels..
holy cow that was awesome
Should it get a season 2?
*No it was already one of the best anime made*
there was already season two except it was all one season
I would like to see them solve the spiral nemisis.
@@ravoniesravenshir3926 Simon already did by not indulging in his spiral power
@@ravoniesravenshir3926nah I would rather see someone spiral power dangerously evolve to the point that they might cause the spiral nemesis and have to be defeated by whatever new main character they pick
Hal Jordan conjuring Gurren Lagann is just an insane reference. Green Lantern's are basically spiral warriors.
Its Kyle Raynor actually.
@@180223nope
Fun fact about Gurren Lagann Boomerang is base off Great Mazinger while the Jetpack boomerang attack was base on Mazinkaiser Scrander boomerang attack
Kiryu 1095 Honestly gurren lagann is just a super robot homagefest its especially obvious with getter robo references being all over in gurren lagann
The Fantom Convoy👑🏆 true
Jetfire48 Zambot 3 and Daitarn 3, for Gurren Lagann's design.
For Daitarn 3, it's the face expressions that it makes.
But that has more to do with Imaishi referencing Mr. Yoshinori Kanada.
For anyone that doesn't know this, the author for Gurren Lagann and animators actually downplayed how massive these attacks are. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is the size of the entire universe. Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is 58.2 Billion light years tall. If we use our own universe as a reference, its only 15 billion light years tall at maximum currently(it expands slowly overtime). This makes the Super version 3.8 times bigger than the universe or 3.8 universes tall. THEN, we have the Super version using the Super Giga Drill Break which is 180 times the size of the mecha which makes the drill bigger than 50 universes tall EASILY. Do you know how massive that is?.....If you don't, I want you to go look up a video of how tiny we are on our planet in comparison to the entire universe, then come back and see this. Granzenboma even managed to match that power which caused all universes(not just galaxies because that also got downplayed heavily) to be absorbed in both drills and cause a Big Bang even bigger than the original Big Bang or the Infinity Big Bang attack that Granzenboma used in a weaker form. This doesn't even include the massive amounts of hax abilities they have(can do anything the Infinity Gauntlet can do and more by A LOT). The only anime characters that would even be capable of beating Team Dai Guren would be Truth from FMA, The Creator(Umineko), Kami Tenchi or some other Omni level god(No, Zeno cannot beat them because he has no hax abilities and clearly a universal explosion or multiple isn't enough). This means that 99% of anime couldn't even come close to touching Gurren Lagann.
*Space Pirate Captain Harlock*
Yeah I guess
*Ashita no Joe*
Yes I know the references too
*Spongebob SquarePants*
NI99A WHERE
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I remember thinking that was an edit.
Well, its not. I had a good laugh when I saw it during some of my rewatches of the series.
i can't see the image buddy. i hav something keeping me from seeing it
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When I first watched TTGL I thought I was gonna hate it after Simon becomes Shinji. Thank goodness for that best scene in any anime ever when Simon's theme plays, it drilled its way up to my most favorite mecha anime
Thank goodness he did not become a shinji although I do not understand why they hate him if it is logical to be like this
I know you don't want to get on the eva and that makes you mad but we don't hate it so much we have to understand how your mind works
don't they want realism they want a badass being with unreal feelings
Happy Birthday to the anime that made me a mecha fan. May you continue to awe us with your constant escalations.
hopefully there will be a new surprise in 2022 for the 15th anniversary of gurren lagann
If there is one thing I'm grateful for is that SRW always gives Nia and Simon the happy ending they deserve
SRW?
It’s a Mecha crossover game series called super robot wars
17:48 Wait so Simon is capable of creating the spiral nemisis but instead uses it for good rather than pointless destruction
The Spiral Nemesis is the result of an excessive amount of Spiral Energy in the universe. Simon alone can't create it but can definitely contribute a large amount to it.
Ok, since they can ALL manipulate reality:
Shin Mazinger ZERO vs Getter Emperor vs Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann vs Ideon
TTGL destroyed a realm which contains 11 dimensions so it stomps all the other robots
just dimensions? meh weak
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The whole multiverse can say bye bye
Demonbane can suck it. Fanboy power fantasy with some of the most insufferable fanboys ever.
Ideon would probably die first. Super Tengen Toppa and Getter Emperor might destroy each other (not 100% sure though) and Zero would just be watching it all play out.
You guys really forgot about how big a part the music makes in the anime. The overall narrative of the anime is fed to the viewer from the lyrics of the music. Also thanks for not spoiling some stuff; respect that, and for posterity sake, 3:42 Gurren Lagann was a part of 4chan before /b/ died of cancer.
I need to rewatch Gurren Lagann.
Such a great video!! Great to see Best Guy Ever on another TTGL, love all of his works. You guys both did an amazing job.
Gurren Lagann was the first Mecha show I completed and I loved it all the way!
That final fight was completely mind blowing, One of the best ever, especially the Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Break
I think it's pronounced that way in Japanese
I have never watched Gurren Lagann, but I am pretty sure I have seen everything I needed to know after watching this vid... I am not sure if I will ever see anything more outrageous than this...
Trusted gundam There is, the genre of super robots and real robots is filled with so many mecha after all, the most well known mecha that could beat Super Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagannn is demonbane for a whole crap load of reasons STTGL would need some really bullshit plot armor reasons to survive and a nerfed demonbane. Though Gurren Lagannn fans tend to Denine the fact that GL isn't the strongest mecha ever nor biggest cause demonbane when in is elderly God demonbane form he's so large he would destroy universes just by moving.
Yeah I am more into the real robot genre than super robot. On that note of like most powerful mecha out there I would still kinda say it goes to Mazinger Zero after watching the explain vid on him. I mean come on how can you beat a guy that can go into the "real world" and erase things out of existence lol
Trusted gundam The problem with that is demonbane cannot entirely be erased he's really overpowered he when compared to mazinger zero as power as mazinger zero is demonbane is stronger also he can summon infinite verisons of himself them being verisons that exist, did exist, don't exist, or shouldn't exist. Also theres his weapon which I REALLY don't feel like typing a long ass comment so I will just suggest pooking it up.
The Fantom Convoy👑🏆 yeah
@@dol_mel7487 Mazinger Zero will win against Elder God Demonbane. In the game it stated that it takes both Demonbane AND Liber Legis doing a double Shining Trapezohedron to bring ZERO down. And this is ZERO asking them to stop him.
Why did bro had to die😭😭😭😭
king plife So Simon could grow up and fill his role as leader. Bro came back and saved the team when they needed him though, like a true bro.
Because the only way for simone to truely become a man, he had to experience loss and sorrow then overcome it.
He was Jesus. His death saved humanity, not immediately maybe, but it is his return from the dead to wake up Simon in the Anti-spiral labyrinth that allows spirals to finally triumph.
Good shit
now to wait for gurren lagann to comeback in SRW V2
Mizumi Karasawa highly unlikely tbh....just finished the game.
though I must say it does indeed fit the whole theme of "voyage" and "love" so its a shame they didn't use the opportunity to bring GL
We've already got an insanely OP unit for V. Mazinger Zero. imagine getter emperor, ttyl, Mazinger zero, and demonbane in a final dynamic special though!!!
Popuko what's srw v2
Golden Mars wondering the same
I'VE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
Just watching the clips gave me shots of adrenaline. Hands down, the best anime I've seen, I hope they don't reboot it or make a crappy life action version, the animation style alone makes the show so powerful.
This is my absolute fav orite anime ever, I get depressed about the ending though
what i liked about this vid was the part where you guys tell the other works of the artists behind the anime that way we wouldnt have to google them ourselves and maybe show some appreciation and actually watch their other creations DO NOT STOP DOING THIS. I ACTUALLY SUBSCRIBED ONLY BECAUSE OF THIS. CHEERS
Years have passed since the I watched the movie and anime but I'm still getting goosebumps
But, what about the downsides of finishing off the anti-spiral? You mention about Nia being created by the Anti-Spiral, however with the anti-spiral no longer around, she soon too vanishes. My guess is, to keep spoilers out, however it is a good point, along with Simon retiring and allowing the younger generations to step up, just like the revolutions of the drill pushing forward.
*S I M O N G E T IN THE G U N M E N*
Sorry For That Evangelion Ref.
"Who the hell so you think we are!?"
-Shinji and Asuka to an angel
No
Don't be sorry for nothing.
what is the difference between shinji and simon
shinji: I don't want I don't want to go up to the eva
Simon: come on friends we will go beyond the limit and cross the sky
they ended up being
Shinji ended humanity and the world
Simon saved all spiral beings in the universe and defeated a god
anyway, bandai needs to get their crap together. other than the anime and origin/thunderbolt NONE OF THE MEDIA FOR GUNDAM HAS BEEN PUBLISHED OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. This series is one of the most popular manga for gundam EVER and it NEEEEEEDS to be localized.
Coolio Ash bandai/Sunrise needs to get some of the lost stories like Gaia Gear.
Ive seen this anime so many times it still gives me chills when it gets over the top. It’s the best mecha anime ever.
Oh, this is AMAZING!!
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!! ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!!
And might I suggest Nirvash for a future Mecha Talk?
14:08 anime team ultimate attacks are always the coolest shit ever!
thx for explaining spiral power, I always thought that the sources of spiral power is hope or never give up on any obstacle that come in your ways and always believe in your goal that you want to achieve even-thought, there is obstacle in your ways
that would also be the spiral energy
1.evolution
2.will not to fall or give up
3.the power that turns the universe and time
Wait, those are galaxies. I thought they were Universes, but they didn't know how to draw them, so they decided to make them look like that.
Even if he's it really a mech, more of a cyborg, how about Asura from Asuras wrath?
godzilla4189 hes more of a spiral energy entity like the anti spiral tbh. Or a *[S T A N D O]*
More of an Android as it’s a sentient robot fun fact android 17,18,19,20 are all cyborgs not androids
Guy is a cyborg and he pilots gaoguygar. All you need is guts and courage!
Reject spiral power......USE MANTRAA!!!
He'll never forgive you for making his daughter cry.
I love Gurren Lagaan. It's an anime that inspires people to do the impossible
Awesome work as always , i can't wait to see the next video about Zeorymer :D
Watching this makes one realize how TTGL might resemble a "fast food anime" which is kind of dumb in many ways... But this one is special. It's *gourmet fast food*
Congrats on the 1 year anniversary of your campaign. Your dedication is godlike.
"I have Getter Ray!"
"I have Green Lantern power"
"Ah!"
"Gurren Lagann!"
Thank you for the awesome video on Gurren Lagann. Can't wait for Zeorymer next!
Gurren lagann is the best anime I've ever seen
By far my fave mecha work ever. Thanks for covering it!
It may be a far longer video, but could you cover variable fighters from Macross? I know there are a lot of them but it would be awesome to see their evolution.
Aw, so TTGL is 15 years old now?
Loved Gurren Lagann for its action, power, character development and story. This show is the most optimal show in Anime history. They are fighting on Galaxies!
"Get ready to have your mind eviscerated by more information than you ever wanted to have about Gurren Lagann!"
Impossible. :D
Great job on the video! I'd love to see a video on GaoGaiGar in the future.
Frost Samurai *in the distance* Uuuuuuuuuuuuuchu Kiiiiiiiitaaaaaaa!
The ability to "raise the dead" was never confirmed, and I am inclined to believe the one charcter who asked Simon to use the "spiral energy" to bring back the fallen only asked Simon to do that thinking they had the power to do that, and Simon who is just a regular living human obviously doesnt have some super brain so he just responded charismaticaly with what he believed was the right thing to say/do without even knowing himself if he could raise the dead.
Since what "Spiral Energy" actual is, the concept of life & evolution is constantly moving forward, like time..you can't reverse the effects of life...that's the *one thing that absolutely cant be done* unless one was God themself. They can obtain many many many God like abilities, like creating & destroying universes, or HECK even manipulating/controlling time can be done , but *NOT* control/manipulate Life ...as again, that's *not* how "Spiral Energy" works or can even be used as it would completely go against the very concept of "Spiral Energy".
*BECAUSE:* "Spiral Energy" is just the energy used to represent the will to live ...it's literally the the energy that's produced from a living beings will to survive & struggle out of pure heart/spirit.
In simpler terms it's just literally the concept of evolution/life manifested as energy.
And the few who have the strongest passion for survival a.k.a. passion to live/survive, can actually manifest the concept of life/evolution into physical energy in amounts so concentrated that whatever their heart/spirit/emotions *(their desire I simpler words)* is focused on is effected by that overwhelming amount of emotion/desire/energy.
Simon & Kamina just happen to find some advancedly scientifically created technology (mech) that was designed to actually harness that energy in its physical state, and thus, the first mech users called it "Spiral energy" ...and since simon has SOOOOOO much hope & unstoppable will to live, survive, and protect, that energy is literally converted into physical usable energy, hence why there is *literally NOTHING* that can beat any person who has an unbreakable spirit/heart. ...making them quite literally a mortal god in the universe of Gurren Laggan.
Um how was that one guy given a tempory body tho?
@@Coldbreeze69 cause he was already alive mate.
Hence his talking head.
Remember, his brain was cloned, so they kept the head hooked up to a machine keep it alive...and since hes actually "alive" and since his cells contains helix-shaped DNA structures, he therefore was organisim/being that had access to "Spiral Energy"
...which incase you didn't understand *(as the show makes some parts of the explanation a little unclear for younger audiences)*
"Spiral energy" is literally just the energy living organisms use to "grow" from survival which allows a species/organism to go through evolution...hence why the "ANTI-Spiral" "Stopped" their DNA evolution ..as by just simply being living, growing evolving organisms the oppertunity for life to continue evolving, and the energy living organisms with helix shaped-DNA structures would use in order to evlove/grow is what Anti-Spirals feared would be the destruction of the universe.
So essentially, they wanted to halt all life from growing and evolving due to a theory they came up with
I also already explained this in the original comment.
i wonder what would happen if there was a true god in gurren lagann
How do we know if spiral power is the power of evolution it means that God is the final evolution, and by creating the spiral energy he can manipulate and change it, so no other being could change that energy
8:42 I just realized, but this Battle left a lot of people dead, just from the Mecha existing.
Thanks for the explanation. I never actually saw the whole series myself but its popularity is so vast that even I can recognize it. Just from this, it easily earns the record of being the most over-the-top Anime series in existence! And I thought Getter Emperor and Mezinger Zero were insane.
laggan throwing simon in the end is so fucking metal
Bro good video you explained the full show in a nutshell.keep up the good work.
Great video.I like the references of Gurren Laggan. It would be awesome to see a mecha talk about gundam 00
This show is easily in my top 10 anime of all time, no doubt about that. And as a correction, when Granzeboma and STTGL each created their Giga Drill Breaks in the movie, those small dots around them were universes, not galaxies, as after STTGL debuted he was still growing massively in size.
@The Fantom Convoy gainax said they were universes not galaxies
@The Fantom Convoy so it was a multiverse
Damn, the Anti-Spiral really puts Unicron to shame!
The one issue I tend to have with these mechs is the size. Namely what we are told vs what we actually see.
For example, we are told that the titular mecha is several millions light years big, yet from what we see in the show it is a couple of thousands at most. And further muddling things is that those things supposedly take place in a special universe with different rules. This becomes apparent when a tear is created and we can see the Earth. This taken into consideration when also comparing the Anti-Spiral home-world and we can tell that the mechs are far smaller, about the size of the Earth/Moon system, give or take. Still unreasonably huge by most metrics, but nowhere near as universe shattering as most assume.
Nop
Re-watch that Series so many times
1:42 I had never noticed all those references in that one shot! Getter-1, Getter Dragon, Mazinger, Jeeg, Voltes V
This was great to watch, it brought back some good memories for me. Fantastic video.
Have you thought of talking about Tetsujin 28? I feel like there's a lot to say in regard to that (of course, I've only watched the 2004 series, but still).
It's the grand-daddy of the mecha genre, is it not?
@@wagdawgwag872 yes and no. Its the first robot anime even though the pilot used a remote control for an rc car and didnt pilot the robot as we know it. The first truely piloted robot was mazinger z
woah you got best guy ever to do a collab the awesome dude. gurren lagann has turned into one of my favorite anime in the previous year and im really glad you this vid good job.
This show is so over the top LOL I love it.
Awesome Mecha video as always! I love learning more about Mecha series and even more when it's something I know.
Keep up the great work.
a GLORIOUS video! you guys ROCKED this. So much Mecha LUV
This brought back some great memories
*hears SpongeBob* one of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong
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No fucking way.
@@180223 wait, so Squidward was a spiral warrior all along?
@@PRODAt3 *Beastman
Viral still was a spiral warrior even as a beastman, one doesn't exclude the other.
Holy fuck! This is the perfect collab
When you run outta mechs so you become one made of your own blood. Metal af
I like u gurren lagann and ur biggest form, but I still have to give it to getter emperor due to its. "Continually consuming time, space and matter"
great video Love this anime
turn on subtitles at 5:36. you wont be disappointed XD
LMAO
Really enjoyed this video!
Im not cry, its just tears
God, I love gutter Laggan, it's just so AWESOME!
My favorite anime ever made.
6:32 so simon could’ve brought kamina back towards the end of the series 💔💔😔
can but does not want
because even that would dishonor his valuable sacrifice and even though it hurts you have to learn to cope with that bite and move on honoring his memory
If you would have said that every transformations ability was to just use a bigger drill and ended it there I still would have been satisfied.
I wonder if a universal catastrophe would appear and an Simon is needed, will the Lagann respond to Simons call. I imagine something like Mjolnir flying through space to Thor
If that would happened, Simon would beat it with only laggan
Now there is alot of robot that I want you to talk about, here's a list, hope you can have a consider and keep up the awesome work!
Kotetsushin Jeeg, Dancuga or perferly Dancuga Nova, Mazinkaiser, King Gainer and My boi---ZOID GENESIS, MURASAME LIGER
17:56 "with it's huge size" it's actually larger than the universe
approximately larger than a larger dimension
Demonbane next please!
It's trash. Just like all the boning powered mechs.
That makes you wonder why in dragon ball characters doesnt just fuse, 2 fuses fusing could easily pass zeno
I forgot about that Dai-Gurren British Flag.
That was actually a thing that almost happened.
a very good video i my self love both the anime and both films so i am very pleased that you did your homework right and made such a nice to watch video
thank you for your time and stress you put in it!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
Looking again on 2022, and a still love it the anime and all of it
So AWSOME!!! 🤩
Hey, I just want to say...LOVE your content. You go into such detail and you made me learn a thing or to! just want to say, keep it up!
Also, LONG LIVE TEAM DAI-GURREN!!
Thanks! Glad you like my work.
I used to think Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann will always be league above every other mechs in terms of strength....
But then I played SRWZ3 lol. The whole concept of Spiral Energy proves that any living being is capable of utilizing the Spiral Energy, meaning as long as you can draw, just about any mech can turn Tengen Toppa as so you desire lol.
No, not every living spiral being can just will any mech into existence, kamina for an example, had very little potential for spiral energy compared to simon, everyone has a limit, some may not have much but others like simon have basically no limit.
So, Gurren Lagann was an april fools' joke. That explains a lot.
One thing i noticed,
It may or may not be intentional, but "I have the best wife in the universe swing" may have been inspired by Getter Robo too
Specifically Getter 3's Daisetsu-zan Oroshi!
>the next one is Zeorymer
_AWAKE, ZEORYMER-_
Show them your true power, ZEORYMER!!!
Zeorymer:MMMMM!!!!
**CLASH**
Explosions!!
How did I get here? How did you get on my dash? OH SHIT MECHA, FUCKING SUBSCRIBED
Great vid. When watching the final battle of the original anime one thing I realised was that TTGL also riffs off the long running shonen fighting manga/anime, with each new form being a "power up" of the hero. The only difference being Gainax squishes their DBZ/Naruto/etc story into 27 eps rather than the drawn out hundreds of episodes we get from those series.
Yeah, TTGL does have several elements from shonen anime