A few years ago I wore a dress to a 20s- themed party, and I got criticism for not even trying to dress in a way that's appropriate for that aera. I just smiled and nodded, and didn't mention to anyone, that it was a dress my great-grandmother actually wore in the 20s, when she was a young woman... 🙃
Elle-Iza Logan It’s so sad that most people don’t know what they are talking about but speak as though they are the authority on the matter. Lol! I bet you looked great!
Is no one else going to appreciate that its a 1920s video and the length of it is 19:20 Update- God this was 3 years ago 😳 i thought maybe 1 person would like this 😂
she sounds like she's trying to hide the fact that she's immortal, like 'when I saw people in the ninetee- OH WAIT NO I DIDNT ACTUALLY uh I DISNT SEE PEOPLE um I WASNT THERE!!!
I got invited to a “great gatsby” themed party this weekend and I’m filled with such existential dread. Do I dress accurately or concede defeat and just dress how they expect me to
I wonder what you ended up doing. I'm helping my husband get together an outfit for a "Roaring 20s" themed Christmas party coming up and I have the exact same dread.
"1920s is one of the most stereotyped decades I have ever witnessed. ... I didn't witness the 1920s, what am I talking about?" Is so much funnier in that context. Gotcha! 😂
*meme movie must now explain herself HOW LONG HAS SHE BEEn HeReE* Tell me about ww1 ww2 evRyThNg Edit: auto correct made mom into movie *meme mom I mean*
Omg same for the 50s though! I was invited to a 50s themed party once and put on my grandma's old dancing dress (which she wore when she was my age, in the 50s!) and everyone else was in cheap polka dot pinup dresses making fun of me 🙄
My grandma was a teen in the early 20's. My mom told me she would hide in her room with her best friend, put shorter skirts on and put rouge on their knees, dance around her room giggling! I love those stories!
@@double-edgedallusionart6384 I've read that some decades ago (can't remember if it was the '60) it was fashionable to paint your knees with drawings (a star, or a flower, smily face). Could it be something like that, maybe?
I can believe it! There was a lot of nudity in bohemian circles; we haven't invented anything. Also cocaine and really risque films; think about Mae West and Dorothy Parker. The Hays Censorship rules were not implemented until 1934. I remember a film called Ecstasy with … I'll look it up, which wasn't considered porn and was about exactly what it said.
My grandmother confided in me that she was a flapper. The styles you describe/show are spot on as they're similar to old family photos. Grandma said the only makeup she dared risk was her trademark red lipstick & that was considered risque, her father would have skinned her had she done any more and she was pushing the limit as it was. There was a twinkle in her eye when she also confided in me she was one to dance on tables. lol She wore the red lipstick up until she passed at 72. ;)
My great grandma was an almost flapper too! She came from a modest, traditional family but was 14 years old when 1920 began. Very soon she chopped off all her hair, plucked and drew her eyebrows, and wore lipstick. She also entered the workforce young and was a general badass, sounds very much like your grandma as well, it's wonderful to remember our ancestors all together ❤️
SusyG320 you should just look it up and save someone time. I'm guessing any attempt at self-expression for a woman made her a synonym for a prostitute at the time
Good video. Everyone thinks every woman dressed like a flapper in the 1920's. It's like saying everyone dressed like a hippy in the 1960's. It's generalizing big time.
I wonder what the general stereotype fashion be of this current decade? Some could say hipster I guess but that was more of a trend that crossed over between decades, and kind of fading out of popularity now.
@@jordanmoch2222 We've entered time period where there are a lot of different styles going on. People are legit wearing whatever tf they want or find appealing at this point. So who knows in which way these last 2 decades will be looked at in like 100-200 years, especially since there's so much actual content of photos and videos that's gonna be left behind. But I also feel like it's impossible to look at any era objectively while you're still living it. We're on the inside but who knows how they're gonna look at us from a time distance.
Years ago my sister in law had a 1920s themed wedding. Me: spends a few months studying period magazines, photos, and fashion ads. Sews historically accurate outfit complete with period underwear and stockings. Every other guest: buys "sexy flapper girl" costume from Halloween shop My poor husband spent the entire wedding listening to me whine about other people's clothes.
LOL. Same here. I show up at theme party dressed historically correct and everyone else bought their togas at some Halloween store or are using bed sheets.
@@paletasdhielo yeah it’s so much fun! 😂😂 Every time my mom and I watch period style dramas, she has to listen to me rant about how inaccurate the clothes are and list facts about the time period
@@PrettyPinkPeacock Maybe in the U.S or Canada, but it surely isn't in Europe or East Asia which make up a huge part of the human population, so it's really not that popular.
I really feel those "time-traveler slip-ups". My friends have a running list of weird shit I've said that is "evidence" that I'm actually a vampire/immortal. Being a history nerd does weird things to your thought process.
Bro i can relate to you a lot. I know a lot about like the past and like old songs that my granma doesn't even know and it makes it look like im older than her but like im in a young body lol. I just know abt those things since i do a lotta research becoz i think its really interesting.
Same. Especially since I'm always in a suit because I work pretty much everyday and am on call even when I'm chilling with my friends (im a mortician) lol
There's no such thing as reading "too much" into a book. Literature is like art, and everyone can interpret it in many different ways. Looking at a piece of art (painting, sculpture, novel, poem, etc.), you can admire both the stylistic and artistic choices of the artist, guess upon the artist's intentions, and also bring your own background and past experiences into an interpretation uniquely your own. That's the true power of art. Not "looking pretty," but inspiring us to make connections between and within ourselves, the human condition, and the meaning of life.
I think Betty Boop distorted the image of the 1920s fashion era. Her hairstyle is reminiscent of the bob haircuts of the 1920s, but her clothing is very tight and revealing, and her silhouette is far too curvy to represent the beauty standards of that era. Once Betty Boop was developed into a whole character of her own, I think she was meant to be a contemporary fashion icon of the 1930’s who could invoke some nostalgia for the care-free, pre-depression era, but without appearing dated.
And I'm here thinking, my non-binary kid would have loved an undergarment that smoothed and flattened their silhouette! I wonder how many people had some degree of relief from gender dysphoria due to these non-corsets? 🤗
I read a novel awhile back about this woman who had always been considered unattractive and unfashionable, then she came into some money and went to buy new clothes for a trip. The sales girls were all gushing over her figure and she was like, “Wait, WHAT?”
@@MichelSarmento On Halloween you're supposed to be inaccurate since it's not reenactment but a mockery of a certain style. A reenactor that rants about innacuracy on Halloween costumes is as dumb as a person who buys Halloween costumes as real clothes from the period.
20s: "I am highly misrepresented!" Edwardian Era: "At least people sorta recognize you and don't think you are your younger sibling whenever they see a corset..." 'eyes over to Victorian Era'
I highly dislike the Edwardian Era, but am in love with the Victorian Era. Lol. It drives me crazy when someone refers to Edwardian dress as Victorian. People also like mix Regency in with Victorian or use Regency images when speaking about the earlier Georgian period around the Seven Years War or American Revolutionary War (Regency & both those wars are in the Georgian Era but the fashion during the sub-era of Regency was vastly different).
Kristin Byers I feel you on the Regency era! It's one of my favorite eras and all these romance novels and books have skewed how the general public sees it,
I love the Victorian Era too...but you know whats worse??? When I wear my ELIZABETHAN gown and people tell me they like my VICTORIAN dress....ummmm you are about 300 or so years off (and they look nothing alike) but ok *glares at them in Fashion History*
This is why Edith Head wore blue lensed glasses so that she would be able to see what the camera saw. And was better able to dress the actresses in the correct colors/styles for films.
@@user-xb5bz4fu9o, when you put things into perspective though, is it really a huge deal if someone dresses like a 1920s celeb? No. So, who friggin' cares? We'll all be dead soon anyway.
One distinction though: women of good social standing never left home without gloves and a hat, ever! Evening gloves (and styles of them, and the dresscode they involved, or dressing for an evening at the opera etc are another issue. My grandmother was born 1906 and lived to 99, 5 years old. She never left the house without gloves and hat or barét or at least a silk scarf. She was my best friend and closest family member and I learned all I know about her era of life, fashion, housekeeping etc from her, as well as life skills to manage through hard times, rationing; also the womens rights movement, adaptibility and social duties to the less fortunate. I wish everyone had the experience of a close relationship to someone of her generation, I miss her dearly.
It's actually pretty uncommon to see photos of women in the 1920s wearing gloves unless they're also wearing heavy coats. While some women would have kept the tradition of their parents' eras, it's more likely that the older women today who never leave the house without wearing a hat and gloves obtained that habit in the 1950s when it was fashionable.
One of my least favorite things about people who claim to love 1920s fashion is that they really only like Hollywood's version of 1920s fashion, but believe authentic pieces from that time are ugly and unflattering. In today's curvy society, perhaps we would think the boxy shape of the 20s is ugly, but back then it was scandalous, a complete rejection of prewar standards of beauty, and through that, prewar standards of everything, even morality. I love real 1920s fashion not only because I find it aesthetically pleasing, but because I love The Lost Generation and everything they did to mold their own version of Western Society out of everything the war left behind.
People that call it ugly have no imagination, theres always something beautiful to be had. My figure lends itself very well to this (small bust, straighter waist) so I think the drop waist style is adorable! I love the points you made. When you search out the authentic instead of the generic representation, there's so much more to be had!
Hi guys I have a 1920's party dance to attend in December where can I find more of the actual dress evening wear or something like that is the style of the not movie 1920's?
Arielle Mermaid I think that the best idea is to thrift something that looks close to the look you're going for then try to adjust the dress to be more historically accurate. As for accessories, you can raid a sewing drawer for little scraps of fabric and try to fashion them into something resembling 1920s accessories. At least, that's how I do it :)
S.E.G. Studio Actually, I thought they did a pretty damn good job. The costumes weren’t quite right for 1922, but for general 20s pastiche it’s one of the better ones.
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they're not too bad except for Daisy's costumes that look very 1929-meets-modern-Chanel to me. but then, to not accentuate the leading lady's waist would be a disgrace!
When I hear 1920s, I immediately think of Julie Andrews in Thoroughly Modern Millie -- though the movie was made in the 60s, it isn't too far off fashion-wise.
I went to a 1920s gala a year ago and bought an antique heavily beaded/sequined tabard dress and all antique accessories. Needless to say, I stuck out in a sea of fringed dresses! It’s ok though, my dress was gorgeous and and I felt beautiful in it.
I wish she would stop swirling her eyes way up to the left it really disturbing and detracts from what she has to say,flapping your hands around also detracts frim the message. Pity🤨
In the 1920s they stopped wearing "corsets". They were called "girdles". My mother was born in 1920, so I got to see fashion through her - looking at all her photos of her life.
That skit in the beginning is so damn relate-able. And it's always that same black fringe dress! I think people just don't get that a lot of those 'glamor' photographs they're looking are actually risque images of burlesque dancers and movie stars. It's like if somebody a hundred years from now were to look at pictures of Beyonce in her stage costumes and decide that was just how women dressed in 2018. Not a safe assumption at all!
@@oliveoconnor5589 Lmao, well if you do, then that's awesome. Then there's me, sees something cute or glittery and I buy it then I wear it, but constantly worry about damaging it or getting it dirty. lol
Are you me? Are we the same person? I've had this conversion on the phone hundreds of times, and I have to start every conversation with, "Do you want to dress authentically, or are you just going to rehash every cheap two-bit "1960s variety show does 1920s" costume?" I remember how pissed I was that a TA with no historical fashion experience took points off in my 1950s Popular Culture Class essay on fashion, because I referenced the transition from 1940s utility fashions into continued post-war rationed wear in Europe, then went through how New Look was an influence, but too expensive fabric wise for most women to emulate initially, how the 50s transitioned into mid decade trends, and then what we think of 60s influences. I got a note on my paper that said "Stick to the 50s!" I was incensed. No decade stands alone. There is no point where the decade ends and everyone throws out the last decade's influences.
EXACTLY! Just watch any TV show that was _actually_ made during a decade, and look how long it takes the clothes to change to the look everybody thinks about. Or another fave subject of mine--music. Every decade has songs that sound like the previous one in the beginning, then some that kinda foreshadow the next towards the end. I've made several chronological decade collections, (why? for fun!) and each time, I've been able to pick a very last song that kinda sounds like the next decade, and it was indeed from the _current_ one the collection was about. For example, with the 1950's collection, I ended on the "Peter Gunn Theme"--which sounds SO James Bond-y, but was from 1959. Look how DISCO the fashions of 1980 are! Or the first season of Mad Men with the round longer skirts and ponytails! Or how some early 1970's songs are still totally war-protesty. As you said, no decade stands alone, and I for one find the _actual_ transitions fascinating.
Direness well if you don't agree with the TAs grade, you can always take it to the professor of the class or the dean. :) Then get the grade you deserve. Maybe they'll see your passion and offer you a part time job in the field of study. :)
That TA should've been taken to task for such a ridiculous comment. How he/she could even hold that position with that point of view is beyond comprehension.
Robin Chesterfield I remember watching "The Funhouse" that was made in 1981 and the way the main character dressed reminded me of the 70's. Or the movie "He Knows Your Alone" was made in 1980(also Tom Hank's first film) and the way the cop looks in it and the house looks like a magazine from the 70's.
Knees and ankles had been hidden until then. So when the hemlines came up a little and ankles were shown ... *le gasp!* Shocking! So when hemlines came up to just below the knee, and when you walked up stairs or stepped up into a car, you'd give this very provocative flash of knee. *GASP!!!* Scandalous! And prior to this, no makeup was the fashion. Victorian ladies didn't wear makeup (or wore very little of it, and then lied about it), and Edwardian ladies wore just a teensy bit, but in a way so they didn't look like they were wearing makeup. Older ladies in the Edwardian era (1900-1910 ish) thought it was scandalous that the younger ladies were wearing rouge on their cheeks or wearing lip-tints. Rather the same as the older folks being scandalised by the super short mini skirts.
Why are the beauty ideals always something super unreasonable? "Be thin everywhere, but large chested" "Be thick and curvaceous, but not fat" "Be flat-chested and ruler-shaped, but not skinny"
That's a weird wayto see something that is simply "Don't be black or white, be grey" like obviously modern standars for example are not only "don't be fat" is also "don't be skinny", Is the middle what you don't see... You can be skinny without being obese and be skinny without being anorexic... it's not that hard to understand
@@cesar6447 But modern standards aren't that lol. The standard is "be fat, but only in the places I want" (chest, hips, thighs, etc.), which is impossible unless your genetics blessed you with lucky fat distribution
Because they want you to embody sort of 'connection of the opposites', which is always impossible (or barely impossible) to achieve. Like you know, they want you 'being thin' but if you are too far in it, you become shadowy/questionable ('she looks so unhealthy, she might be suffering from annorexia, or is a drug addict or whatever').
The costumers of Downton Abbey did a great job showing the gradual changes in fashion, with some people changing their style and others continuing older fashion silhouettes
One thing you forgot to mention about Hollywood makeup at the time that it was very vibrant and clown-like, but you can't tell because it's in black and white, but the strange colors made the film look the way the director wanted. (Like how the Addams Family set was actually bright pink to get the proper eerie haunted house look on B&W film.)
Also fwiw, bright pink is a huge, dominant occultic color 😞😔😝 But that's a whole different topic of conversation. The real makeup used in early films was bizarre colors, to make facial features show up... bright chartreuse yellow, blues, stark heavy black. It must've looked crazy lol! 😁
Make another one for the 80's, a lot of people are exaggerating 80s fashion and making them look bad, while the actual one I personally think it's really cool
OMG THIS I’m currently looking up 1980s fashion for a story I’m writing and every time I google “1980s women’s fashion” I’ll get a bunch of images of cheap exaggerated Halloween costumes like NO I’m looking for actual 1980s stuff
@@judyemmstoyradio3064 Exactly! One thing that could help (albeit, perhaps a little creepy) is to find real-deal photos of the era you’re looking at online. No ads, stock photos or anything meant to sell something, just real-deal run of the mill photos. Things like family photos, Christmas photos or even home videos could help. A lot of people tend to share their personal old photos & videos online. Photos from news/big events can also help, since the point of them wasn’t to exaggerate anything (or at least exaggerate anything visually).
There was also a severe shortage of men in 1920 & I’ve often wondered whether younger women were having fun with fashion because they weren’t trying to please men, or whether they were having fun because they were competing for the few single men. I love 1920s fashion. I used to have some of my grandmother’s day dresses-they were long and drapey with dropped waists and sashes.
A few years ago I made a 3 piece 1920's dress for my sister, (she had to wear 20's fashion for an event); But when she showed me the pictures of that knight I notice she didn't wear the dress, instead she wore a short black dress and a feather on her head because she didn't wanted to look out of place compared to everyone else, I got really mad and I promise not to sew her a garment again.
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hahaha that's a bit sad but yes, 1920s fashion is not as flattering and sexy as everyone wants it to, especially day-to-day fashions. for sexy screen sirens I would suggest 1930s instead!
It's because of fotos (most of them from the end of that decade) like this, that people think, 1920s dresses were tight fitted, and all about fringe and sexyness: i.pinimg.com/originals/34/fb/65/34fb65f993a8d001fa05a4594e6baf2b.jpg i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/19/6c/8e196c89e450a6e6a535276136a9e8d6.jpg i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/fa/75/c9fa75611902acb278a038ec231fd822.jpg i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/3f/8f/7e3f8fbf797917f8519296a079100654.jpg i.pinimg.com/236x/5b/05/be/5b05be22a8aeb10a7138c6aa655e2528--s-hair-s-flapper.jpg But all these women were famous movie stars, who wanted to look as modern, beautiful und sexy as possible. Or the pictures were taken on film sets, where the actresses played dancers or whatever.
Above the knee skirts started right before WWII- as a way to save fabric for the war. The skirts became long again one last time for the 1950s, before finally become short as a fashion staple in the mid 1960s.
"Good girls" wore girdles until pantyhose appeared in the late '60s. (You knew you were finally a woman when your mother gave you your first girdle, so your behind wouldn't jiggle when you walked.) When I was in high school in the late'50s/early '60s your skirt hem had to touch the floor when you knelt on the floor, or you were sent home. Throughout the '60s, a straight skirt did NOT cut in under your behind, and if clothing had stretch-folds across the front, it was obviously too small.
LOL! Another boomer! Remember your first set of princess heels? and your first set of stockings? The rule of three for underthings? I was a 60s teeny bopper, so my skirts had to reach below the tips of my fingers. When "melted and poured" dresses were a shame, not a fashion trend. Slips? Another fashion casualty.
Dodi Tov Oh, fingertip-length skirts are fun. My high school in the 2000's had the "fingertip length" rule for skirts. I never wore anything above the knee, so I didn't worry about it then, but as an adult, I learned that my long torso and short arms mean that my fingertips hit just a couple of inches under my butt - if I'd worn a skirt that short to school, they would have changed the length policy in a heartbeat!
I must say that's quite funny because I graduated high school in 2017 (in South Africa, we have compulsory school uniforms here) and we had to kneel on a chair/bench too, to make sure the skirt would touch it. So, some things take a while to change unfortunately haha ;)
The reasoning behind it (so your behind wouldn't jiggle) seems bizarre. I thought it was for your figure and so you could hold your stockings up, which makes sense. Is this really something people paid attention to when it came to TEENAGE GIRLS? I'd be more worried about the people looking at teenage butts that closely. I'm not aware of mine "jiggling" at all in vintage clothing, which generally isn't super tight and doesn't draw attention to that body part. I just walked back and forth in front of the mirror and even in my nightgown, I see no "jiggling". Granted, I'm petite and skinny but how fat could the average 50s teenage girl have been?
"Jiggle" was probably the wrong word. Put your hands on your behind and walk. Feel the way one cheek goes up, then the other cheek goes up, then ... and so on. That's what the girdle was supposed to reduce, but I couldn't think of a word for it. "For your figure" -- no way a '50s or '60s mother was going to want to enhance her teenaged daughter's figure! Adult women wore them to hold in a waist and belly, and lift a sagging behind, and because it wasn't considered "nice" not to, but very young women would be wearing them to tame that backside. "Hold stockings up" - stockings for teens were for special occasions only. They were expensive (whether silk or the new-fangled nylon) and you could rarely get more than two wearings out of them before they were full of runs. We had garters, worn just above the knee, worked fine with full skirts that didn't pull up when you sat down, and garter belts. Girdles worked better with stockings than garter belts because garter belts tended to let the stockings fall down when sitting released the tension on the front straps. But again, teens rarely wore stockings anyway. "People looking at teenaged butts" -- high school boys would literally battle to be the one right behind a girl going up stairs in a straight skirt. They had little enough to look at otherwise, and that sway and rise and fall, and resulting speculation, was worth the battle.
@@RobertLutece909 *oH NO fIRSt We hAVe tO FIgHt a WaR aND NoW aLl Of tHE CurVY WaMAn ARe gOnE!!!!! WhATeVeR sHALl I DO???????* cuz women couldn't be happy, comfortable, and party with their boyfriends/husbands who returned home from war without being absolute QUEENS and not be forced to wear ultra tight clothing made for misogynistic men
luckily you can choose to look like you want these days, you just can't choose how people look at you. so you can wear a potato sack, but can't make everyone do the same)
My grandmother (born in the Edwardian era), said she wore bandages over singlets or spencers underwear, to flatten her bust, then a corselette or a camisole to hold it all in place.
So, I've been researching 1920's fashion for a (completely unsurprising) Gatsby themed wedding in October. And I just had a revelation and I'm certain that this is the only place where someone will care. Ok. I think......that people get the long gloves trend from Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany's?? Because the 20s has the cigarette holders all day and I think the muggles automatically think cigarette holders = that iconic image. Idk. Just a thought. Also I find that many people seem to get the 20s confused with a 30s hollywood glam vibe. Anyway. I'm sewing a dress and going historically accurate cause I'm that girl. Just can't decide between early 20s or mid 20s. Also I'm totally a huge fangirl and love your videos.
@@R83145 Etsy.com has a lot of shops that reproduce historic patterns. I found the one I'm using there. Some people size them others leave that to you. PastPatterns.com also has a great selection of multi-sized and single sized historic patterns from various decades.
I know this is off-topic, but can you do a tutorial on how to do that gorgeous scarf wrap over your hair? When I try it, it comes undone pretty quickly.
Ugh. Mary Pickford and Olive Thomas both had long wavy hair. Karolina doesn't know everything and her forte is style and fashion trends, not a "time traveler." There were carry-overs from the 1910s style in the early 1920s. Young rebellious women also wore skirts above their knees on purpose (to piss people off or attract young men) not because their clothes were "ill-fitting" or "hand-me-downs" as Karolina has absurdly suggested. They wore headbands, yes, headbands were a thing among the very young. I think Karolina chooses to focus on the upper class, and middle-class housewives. That's fine, and she's right that most women didn't look like that or wear black fringe dresses, but she's not one hundred percent correct.
@Sandra Swan Okay but what I said was true. Look up Mary Pickford and Olive Thomas they were prominent actresses women would have copied from the late 1910s in the early 1920s. I'm not a fashion expert but my great-aunt was a little girl in the 1920s and I knew her well before she died when I was in middle school. I watch silent films, and read old novels from the modern period (approximately 1900s to 1940s). You have to do more than just look at fashion photos, to truly get inside the mind of the 1920s you have to appreciate their art, their writing, their film, and the fact that fashion didn't move as quickly as it does today. No TV, no internet, poor people had newspapers or magazines, went occasionally to the picture show. Karolina is absolutely talented at sewing clothes or capturing a look of a long-ago period. That being said, I find her lacking in any one deep period. Do you understand what I mean? I like the modern period in fiction. My favorite historical period runs approximately from 1890 to 1955. She doesn't specialize in a period, if she does it's like from the 18th century, there's a lot of important detail missing and that needs to be corrected. I like what she does but some of her videos are too arrogant.
@Sandra Swan Dolores Costello (Drew Barrymore's grandma)....the examples are endless. The marcel wave is something important you should know about 1920s hair. Not every woman was a rich lady in New York or London. And women did copy movie actresses, too.
@Sandra Swan a lot of the hairstyles you see in the "punk" or teenaged movements of the 1970s are from the 20s and 30s because those were their grandparents (my great-aunt was my mom's aunt). The butt-length hair with big black eyeliner and red lips. Even the weird frizzy hair that was straight at the top and clipped with barrettes or put into ponytails looks exactly like a Lottie Pickford photo. www.pinterest.com/pin/766034217865522518/ ...young people tend to hate everything about their parents but be inspired by the fashion of their grandparents or great-grandparents. The horned rimmed glasses and tendency toward DIY in older X-ennials and the first wave of Millennials is a reflection of having grandparents who were young from WWII through the early 60s, for example. It also suggests a retrieval of late 1800s style (the beards and waxed mustaches, for instance) which I think is distinctly from Millennial childhoods viewing films or art of mostly Gen X (but sometimes Boomers) trying to capture the last century (19th) at the more recent turn of the century (20th).Think about how many movies from the 1990s are about the 1890s. It's almost too much to account for
The key word for 1920s fashion is androgyny. Girls wanted the boyish figure. They wanted to chop their hair off like Joan of Arc. If you think you could be mistaken for a boy in a dress and lipstick, you're probably doing it right. If you are a boy in a dress... well, it wasn't very publicized, but it did happen. That's how Conrad Veidt was divorced by his first wife. He wore a designer gown she was waiting for to a crossdressing dinner party.
Kathryn Geeslin she ordered it and was waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Then she got home late from work (she was a cabaret dancer, I think) and there he was, wearing it, surrounded by other men in drag. Then she divorced him. At least, that's what she told the journalist.
Funny example--not the most accurate, but ever seen the movie "Thoroughly Modern Millie"? Basically Julie Andrews' character wants to look like the fashionable girls around her when she comes to the city, so she gets a dress and a string of beads like that...but the beads bunch up and flop all over the place. ...unTIL she gets a corset that _flattens down her boobs_, and only THEN is the look right! XD
I feel really lucky to have access to pictures of my family ancestors from 1913, 1929, 1943, 1955, etc. (we even have a tintype). As to the flapper costumes, people cling to them because they are fun and sexy, similar to inaccurate saloon girl costumes of the 1800's. It never occurred to me that those cheap Halloween costumes were supposed to be historically accurate. Thank you for a thoughtful video.
Oh god. Oh god, this again. Whenever people try to be like “oh, 1920s was so fun and fringe and champagne,” and I’m like NOOOOOOOOOOO! There is so much more history behind the 1920s. It was the first, whole decade after women got rights. It was during the first wave of feminism. The 20s was also after the war. People don’t think about the history!
I thought the first wave was the suffragettes(?) in the victorian era. But 1919 (i dunno if everywhere but in Germany at least) women got the rights to vote.
Topsyturvy10 that’s not accurate. There were some Southern states that denied the right to vote to blacks until the voting rights act of 1965, not through all of the US.
When I was in highschool one of our history projects was to research what life was like in the 1920's and one of the things we had to research was what people wore. I spent HOURS looking for credible sources of fashion other than the flapper and vamp outfits and didn't find a thing. Not everyone wore the same style, it's not how it was then it's not how it is now, and I knew that, but because of the attention we have given to the flapper fashion that it seems to be all the 1920's fashion was composed of. It frustrates me because it takes depth out of history and makes those people who lived in that time a singular group of people void of all individuality and personality. They were real people with personalities and and differing views, not one person was the same and writing history with broad terms means you will eventually forget a part of it.
At 16, my grandma bobbed her hair, and her dad gave her a good cussing. That was 1925, and he was not amused. Her clothes were dresses that DID look like a potato sack, and as the Depression came about, probably WERE made of those sacks at times. I thought she was beautiful, and she never wore makeup, because first, the expense, second, the impracticality, as she picked cotton to feed her children. A bob would have been practical in the hot sun, and she told me she wore an old bonnet to keep the sun off her face. Also, VERY practical. Thanks for the video, and for keeping it honest and real.
To be fair probably the only reason people are so inaccurate at 1920s parties is they probably don’t care and the fact that if they were to actually go full on 1920s it would be considered unflattering today plus some of the styles are hard to replicate
I agree, If you want to be historically accurate, great, but if another person isn't that fastidious, so what? There are many worse things a person could do.
True. And I’m not costuming an historically accurate movie. And if I’m going to a party or a “Gatsby” themed wedding do I want to be the one person who is walking around saying “Well ACTSHUALLY people didn’t actually wear that”? No, let people have their fun
@@edgarallenpwned3538 Good point, Everyone *loves* that person. As much as they love the person who responds to what they said with "Actually you shouldn't have used "nauseous* you should have said "nauseated*. We've all met them in different incarnations.
Bettie Stiletto YES! Or the person who decides to scoff at your delicious lunch of General Taos’s chicken and chicken chow mein to inform you that these aren’t “authentic” Chinese dishes, and that you’re obviously a philistine who hasn’t travelled much like *they* have if you’re able to eat that kind of *Westernized garbage*, as they go on and on giving their unsolicited advice about how you really need to go to one particular restaurant in some obscure town 100 miles away which actually makes the most AUTHENTIC Peking Duck and orange slices for dessert Then you crack open your fortune cookie, which they inform you aren’t even a Chinese invention, and the fortune inside tells you that you will meet a person who will test your patience
I think I love you. I'm literally laughing out loud, as I have met the Chow Mein oracle. Three times I have met them. Can there be three official oracles, perhaps not, but I'm sure an oracle oracle will chime in and let me know if I'm woefully ignorant in that department. There's also the "Most obscure song by your favourite band that you, you poor ignorant plebe have obviously never heard of, though you'll never actually be asked before the soliloquy begins. It sounds remarkably like that of the "Authentic Peking Duck" in passion, if not in kind.. One fact I do like throwing around but only to silence the arrogant prats, is that a fundamental rule of the English language is that common usage dictates correctness, It's always been effective. For the other testers of patience, at least Portandia can be an antidote, though at times it's so accurate it can trigger flashbacks..
As a child, I was told that flappers were called flappers because they had long saggy boobs that flapped around when they danced and that all women looked like this in the 20s. I don't know why. But I wished to share this misinformation with you.
Hm would it be acceptable to go as an Erté muse? Im thinking half naked, wrapped in fur with a giant bejeweled headpiece? Preferably with a cheetah on a leash
Oh my goodness...my school had a 20's themed banquet, and though I admit, my dress wasn't all that historically accurate (more like 1920s INSPIRED, but you know, with authenticity comes cost). However I didn't particularly claim it WAS accurate to the decade. But one of my friends comes in my room having had her makeup done by a slightly older girl. The poor dear had basically maroon lipstick and heavy eye makeup (I think it looked more like a goth person). THEN THE OLDER GIRL STARTS TALKING ABOUT THE SILENT SINEMA PEOPLE TO DEFEND HER COLOR CHOICES. And I'm over in the corner going "Oh no oh please no..." NOT EVERYONE NEEDED TO CREATE CONTRAST BETWEEN THEIR EYES AND LIPS AND FACE TO BE SEEN ON CAMERA!!! Poor historical me was cringing sufficiently that evening. But I suppose I understand the cost issue, and most people can't afford to spend a couple hundred dollars on a dress they will wear once.
At last someone gets realistic with 20's makeup! Thank you. I am tired of seeing tutorials from "20's girls" looking like racoons. Also, that black and white movies and pictures back then was not our black and white. They had way more contrast, hence the darkness. I love your videos btw!!
Of all the the things in this world to be be bloody sick and tired of, I have to say those raccoon eyed girls who think they look like women from the 1920s are tops on my list.. for sure. Isn't there some kind of law.. Deport the lot of them, it's a disgrace.
Can you do 80's fashion? Cause these days people seem to think that the 80's was just neon vomit 😂😂 Anyway I just like a lot of era's and their fashion, and I think that these caricatures that people make of these era's are very silly ( e.g the 70's hippie )
The 80s were such a lawless wasteland. Urban fashion, goth, new wave, rockabilly, punk, whatever Molly Ringwald was doing that week, denim on denim, preppy, yuppie, androgyny, athletic gear, Aqua Net, the advent of the baseball cap, and shoulder pads as far as the eye could see... God I love 80s fashion ❤️
80s fashion is so confusing. One minute you have a look that appears like 2019, then the other that looks like a cheesy exercise video with spandex and thick moustaches
I think whenever you get a term for an fashion, like 'flapper' or 'hippie', the whole decade becames a stereotype. I remember going to a music festival and people were dressed as stereotypical hippies while I saw going around in my actual vintage 70s clothes and people who not stop staring at me.
mintjaan The same thing happened to me, also it annoys me how people on music festivals (or even worse, costume parties) go on and say "I'm dressing up as a hippie"
Because everyone who wore bell bottoms was a hippy lol. It wasn't a ubiquitous style of pants in the 60s & 70s or anything 😉 I've seen pants go skinny, wide, skinny, wide, skinny, wide skinny & now it's swinging wide again? Same with hem lengths of skirts. I like how now you can wear whatever you want & nobody really bats an eye. It's all Vintage inspired now ♡
Someone working on a fashion history project: "everyone knows people in the 20s, wore long pearl necklaces, and flapper dresses" Karolina: "HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!"
Bringing historical justice, one video at a time. 🙌🏻✊🏻❤️ Seriously though if only flappers knew they would be the bane of the 20s, I wonder what they would say. Probably that we get them all wrong anyway, people don't really understand it was more about shaving their legs and pits or wearing deodorant for the first time in history than wearing a feather boa.
Wasn't the trend of shaving legs and pits started by razor companies desiring to sell more razors? If so, I wouldn't interpret the event of shaving and showing it off as liberating but rather as an example of the power of advertising. One minute body hair is normal, a few businessmen say otherwise, then the next thing you know everybody is shaving xD Not that I don't shave, it's ingrained in almost everyone's brains now that shaved legs and pits look better... I even think so O.o
Sarah Kirk I'm not a make up historian, so I can tell you I'm 100% sure about this, but I knew that as long as women had skirts feet length and sleeves they didn't worry much about hairs and perspiration, you had perfumes, but not deodorants. When skirts began to shorten, razors for women followed shortly. There's a charming video on Lisa Eldridge's channel interviewing Madeline March (she's a proper make up historian!) and the very beginning they discuss 1890's vs 1920's beauty products, I remember a dainty little razor and the infamous "Odour Oh No" deodorant. As for being ingrained into pretty much every woman's mind you're right, as much as -as a feminist - would like to at least have a choice, I really can't see myself otherwise 😫😂
I laugh so hard at the beginning of this video because as a costume designer, i can't tell you how many times I have had the SAME questions asked of me! And specifically about the 20s! Well, it's actually not really a set of questions but more a telling of what they are going to wear seeking validation ("I was thinking like a long black tee shirt and I could cut off the sleeves and pin a row of that fringe stuff at the bottom?") followed by disappointment when I tell them my opinion, and finally, "Well, then you can make something for me!"
Andrew MacLaine "Yes I can make something for you, especially seeing as how you've just taken up my time in this pointless way. I charge for phone time, and for my advice. It's not free. So the least you can do now is place an order!" Lol. Just my own processing. I'm a massage therapist, and we get similar calls & pointless expectations 😀
not so much seem, they are doing those themes in December because December 5th was the end of prohibition. I know a speakeasy that throws wonderful "Repeal Day" parties.
A great resource for finding clothing that represents a particular era is to look for vintage sewing pattern sites. The patterns are usually categorized by decade. The models on envelopes will also show examples of shoes and accessories as well.
Old video I know, but for any history fans, my great grandmother was thrown off the tram by the conductor because her skirts were too short and she was clearly "that type of girl", this was shortly after the first world war. She read that the latest London fashion at the time was slightly shorter skirts that skimmed the tops of the boots, so she took her skirt up and ended up walking.
Ugh, thank you for mentioning this! People seem to think that people wore nighttime flapper fashion 24/7. It was still quite conservative despite rising hemlines.
As a child in the late 50s, I was playing in my friend's attic. I'll never forget opening an old trunk and finding a flapper dress that belonged to her mother. I thought it was amazing. It was short, straight and full of fringe. We tried it on and it came to our ankles, but I was a very short 11 years old, and the owner was a tall statuesque woman. So I could only imagine how it looked on her.
The 1920 aesthetic that people are remembering and attributing was popularized by The Ziegfeld Follies. Please take a moment to peruse Google images to see the short skirts, fringe, and feathers. You are correct in that women were not wearing these looks out on the streets, they were strictly for the theatre. But their length and design was a product of giving the dancers the ability of movement range and creating more drama on the stage. People are not "wrong" in remembering fringe and short skirts, they are just not realizing what they actually came from and instead thinking it was popular nightclub clothing. And if you image search flapper and find period pictures, there are the lengths you talk about.. mid calf MAYBE a touch higher! Though you will find The Ziegfeld girls interspersed, so I can understand the confusion
Thank you!!! I was thinking of making a video about the very same subject! It frustrates me how such a beautiful era of clothing has been reduced to cheap costume.
All so very true! Those "20's" "flapper" tiny fringe dresses make me so sad :( Real 1920's fashion was so beautiful and Halloween costume shops have distilled the decade into such an unfortunate caricature!
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Exactly! And I don't even want to think what fashion designers have in store for 2020s as I'm SURE they will come up with "1920s style" clothes...
TheClosetHistorian I remember when American girl had sold a flapper costume for the dolls and that's basically what your description detailed. What was worse is it was also a shimmery purple colored material and was you guessed it, that part was the fringe and had a deep purple bodice. And yet they sell historical dolls...
I really enjoyed watching Downton Abbey, because the way their costumes changed from begging to the end of show. And also things how they adjusted to phone or radio. Like dowager countess said there s no way she got electricity at her house because it irritates her eyes.
Ooh, if you liked Downtown Abbey, you know what else you should watch? Upstairs, Downstairs. It also goes from like, 1900's to the end of the '20s and has the fashions, attitudes, technology change with the times (accurately!) while the characters play their stories out. There's a whole big WWI story arc and the costumes are gorgeous and... It's basically Downton Abbey only made in the 1970s, and with way more episodes. :)
My great-grandmother was from the 20s, my grandmother was born in 1928. My great granny was so into the 20s that she couldn't accept women in the family having long hair! Love your vids, cause I love history!
Fernanda Somenauer Garcia I am a cosmetologist and back in the late 2000's I had an elderly client who would've totally agreed with your granny! She used to complain all the time about how ugly the news anchor women all looked with their long straight hair....and couldn't they see that! Lol I really cherish the memory of all those weekly wash and set ladies I used to have. God rest there souls, they are passed now.
It was interesting to watch on Downton Abbey how they made the slower more realistic transition from the 1910's into the 1920's, though I know Englands version was somewhat different from ours.
Similar with Upstairs, Downstairs--when they first brought in electricity: GASP! When they first had a phone, _only_ the upstairs people or the butler were allowed to use it. The household's first car was a special, precious item--and they still ALSO had horses! Dresses went from the Edwardian to the Belle Epoque to more conservative wear during WWI to the 1920s withOUT fringe and tiny skirts. And then there was the episode about suffragettes, and...
I absolutely love and appreciate the history and learning of the accuracy of what they actually wore. But if you are ever invited to a "1920s themed" party you do not have to stress out about being historically accurate unless you absolutely want to. Dressing up in theme parties is just for fun. Have fun with it. Wear what makes you feel comfortable, fun, flirty and pretty. Lol
Grandma told me they got 3 outfits a year in those days. That's all, and she wasn't afraid to work. How people can say they were so wealthy in the 1920's is beyond me.
They weren't. I mean there was the huge Crush in the 1929. It is just that usually it is rich people who indicate fashion so most people just overly-generalized stuff
Also, the picture shown was Sid Charisse (dancing with Gene Kelly, in Singing in the Rain) . . . she was *famous* for her legs. So 1) they wanted to really show off one of her best assets, 2) the ballet required exceptional movement in the costume, and 3) it was designed and filmed in 1952 (costume design made for historical accuracy was *really* iffy back then). Also, I love Sid Charisse in that movie, and if you haven't seen it, stop everything and go watch it right now. She's only in the dream sequence toward the end, but really the whole movie is fantastic. One of Debbie Reynolds' earliest films that she did at 19 years old.
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it’s true, she’s A-MAH-ZING! and those legs and the way she moves them - damn!
Fitzgerald's Bernice Bobs her Hair perfectly describes what 20's women looked like. He says the trendy flapper look was a strict minority of women and the majority wouldn't cut their hair at all. The flapper movement was actually a counter cultural movement of young women rebelling against the strict conformity of the 1900s in exchange for promiscuity, partying and living it up. It was largely a French fashion weaponized by American women for liberation in fashion and life
I love this video! The 20s had such lovely clothing looks much more comfortable than what we wear now! I love 30s and 40s too actually anything up to the end of the 1960s is my jam! I would love to know more about the women who wore suits and played with gender because I feel like they were so brave and broke down so many barriers xx
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oh I love masculine styles from 30s and 40s! they all look so badass whereas if I was wearing that I would end up looking like a weird uncle
Karolina Żebrowska me too I mean we think we would look fabulous but just no lol they were so brave to step out and be themselves though it amazes me x
I think the masculine style of the 40s is rather inspired by the military. And maybe not even inspired but forced, because many textiles like nylon was taken for the military-related use. And I would be much more careful with assuming women would wear certain clothes to counsiously show how brave they are. It's really just fashion and we are all affected by it but not everyone are aware of it.
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True, but in 1930s it was an act of bravery to go around in a fully masculine attire, when the mainstream fashion was all about femininity. each time Marlene Dietrich did that everyone was going crazy. and Katherine Hepburn's man-like outfits were definitely not what the fashion designers had in mind for women at that time.
When talking about stars and famous people, I think it would be more about the image and style they wanted to create and be known for than showing real bravery. It wasn't really fashionable back then, was it?
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"i have not witnessed 1920s what am i talking about"
sounds like something someone from the 1920s would say................
👀
We caught her slipping for a second...
@@thedashingboysenberry4489 HAHAHAHA
People she is polish, English is not her mother tongue so she made just a genuine mistake, but is very funny to read your comments;)
*vampire suspicions increase*
A few years ago I wore a dress to a 20s- themed party, and I got criticism for not even trying to dress in a way that's appropriate for that aera.
I just smiled and nodded, and didn't mention to anyone, that it was a dress my great-grandmother actually wore in the 20s, when she was a young woman... 🙃
wow, amazing! a bit sad though’
One of my girlfriends is the same size and shape as her mother. She wears her mother’s 50’s and 60’s clothes to parties and looks great!
Elle-Iza Logan It’s so sad that most people don’t know what they are talking about but speak as though they are the authority on the matter. Lol! I bet you looked great!
Elle-Iza Logan That was a cool thing to have done.If I were you,I would’ve told them though.
People can be stupid
Is no one else going to appreciate that its a 1920s video and the length of it is 19:20
Update- God this was 3 years ago 😳 i thought maybe 1 person would like this 😂
I think it's brilliant and totally loving it :) :)
I didnt notice until you pointed it out lol
Haha *clever*
😂 I didn't notice that
mind blowwwnnnn
I love how she talks like she was alive in 1920 "I didn't see a lot of woman wearing gloves" this proves my point that karolina is an inmortal
she obviously means in photos
@@headphonic8 ok but why don't u just have fun and let ppl joke??
@@headphonic8 That's what she is trying to make you think
@@headphonic8 r/wooosh
@@headphonic8 r/wooosh
she sounds like she's trying to hide the fact that she's immortal, like 'when I saw people in the ninetee- OH WAIT NO I DIDNT ACTUALLY uh I DISNT SEE PEOPLE um I WASNT THERE!!!
so funny
Like certain fashion's didnt encourage other people.
Time traveler
At the start of the video she says she witnessed... Then she corrected herself 😂
She's actually gay
I got invited to a “great gatsby” themed party this weekend and I’m filled with such existential dread. Do I dress accurately or concede defeat and just dress how they expect me to
THIS!!!
I wonder what you ended up doing. I'm helping my husband get together an outfit for a "Roaring 20s" themed Christmas party coming up and I have the exact same dread.
@@sararamonajohansson do it correctly and educate the people
a e s t e t h i c b i t c h don’t do that it’s a party, let ppl have fun
yes i know what you mean
This whole channel is more interesting if you assume she's a century old vampire recounting the fashion of her youth..
Baz Griffith thank you for that new perspective that changes everything
"1920s is one of the most stereotyped decades I have ever witnessed. ... I didn't witness the 1920s, what am I talking about?" Is so much funnier in that context. Gotcha! 😂
Wow yes omg
*meme movie must now explain herself HOW LONG HAS SHE BEEn HeReE*
Tell me about ww1 ww2 evRyThNg
Edit: auto correct made mom into movie
*meme mom I mean*
Ready to go into this with a new outlook 😂
Omg same for the 50s though! I was invited to a 50s themed party once and put on my grandma's old dancing dress (which she wore when she was my age, in the 50s!) and everyone else was in cheap polka dot pinup dresses making fun of me 🙄
Cause your dress was better, the heck with those
They were just jealous because you had the right style and appropriate clothing lmao
That must’ve been so annoying
Dude I can honestly feel how annoying it was
Bruh I’m sorry
My grandma was a teen in the early 20's. My mom told me she would hide in her room with her best friend, put shorter skirts on and put rouge on their knees, dance around her room giggling! I love those stories!
such a cute story ❤️
Awww
Go grandma
Why out rouge on their knees? I dont understand.
@@double-edgedallusionart6384 I've read that some decades ago (can't remember if it was the '60) it was fashionable to paint your knees with drawings (a star, or a flower, smily face). Could it be something like that, maybe?
“ I don’t think I’ve seen that many people wearing gloves.” Yep, totally a vampire.
Nope, she's an Immie and she has her Polish Hussar Saber (a karabella, not a szalba) out of sight but always ready...
"why i dont tan" because youre a vampire
Describing a ‘historical’ dress results in angry cat noises
An artist just uploaded a video in how tiana 1920s should have looked like m.ua-cam.com/video/jF3VUc2S4QA/v-deo.html
Or just google photos of the 1920s and you’ll see. Society thinks it was tassel dresses and Gatsby fashion but that was just the rich.
My friends grandma was arrested for indecent exposure on the beach in 1925
I can believe it! There was a lot of nudity in bohemian circles; we haven't invented anything. Also cocaine and really risque films; think about Mae West and Dorothy Parker. The Hays Censorship rules were not implemented until 1934. I remember a film called Ecstasy with … I'll look it up, which wasn't considered porn and was about exactly what it said.
@@JayVal90 they were on a beach so how is that being a thot?
@@zwitter_zwitter because that's the REAL measure of a man 🙄
@@JayVal90 bruh. Who even said that it is? Go back to your sad existence
JayVal90 if you think women are less valid because they wear bikini’s at the beach you live a very sad existence.
My grandmother confided in me that she was a flapper. The styles you describe/show are spot on as they're similar to old family photos. Grandma said the only makeup she dared risk was her trademark red lipstick & that was considered risque, her father would have skinned her had she done any more and she was pushing the limit as it was. There was a twinkle in her eye when she also confided in me she was one to dance on tables. lol She wore the red lipstick up until she passed at 72. ;)
I stan your grandma, rip ❤
Ah, my grandmother also told me to always have red lipstick. Good times. May our grandmothers rest in peace and continue dancing up there.
My great grandma was an almost flapper too! She came from a modest, traditional family but was 14 years old when 1920 began. Very soon she chopped off all her hair, plucked and drew her eyebrows, and wore lipstick. She also entered the workforce young and was a general badass, sounds very much like your grandma as well, it's wonderful to remember our ancestors all together ❤️
Awwww bless her ☺💖
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you should just look it up and save someone time. I'm guessing any attempt at self-expression for a woman made her a synonym for a prostitute at the time
Good video. Everyone thinks every woman dressed like a flapper in the 1920's. It's like saying everyone dressed like a hippy in the 1960's. It's generalizing big time.
I wonder what the general stereotype fashion be of this current decade? Some could say hipster I guess but that was more of a trend that crossed over between decades, and kind of fading out of popularity now.
Jordan Moch that’s a good question but hard to answer. The 2010’s are all over the place.
@@jordanmoch2222
Often, it's 'barely there.'
@@jordanmoch2222 We've entered time period where there are a lot of different styles going on. People are legit wearing whatever tf they want or find appealing at this point. So who knows in which way these last 2 decades will be looked at in like 100-200 years, especially since there's so much actual content of photos and videos that's gonna be left behind. But I also feel like it's impossible to look at any era objectively while you're still living it. We're on the inside but who knows how they're gonna look at us from a time distance.
"*Everyone* thinks *every* woman dressed like a flapper.." And you say they're generalizing big time. Irony?
Years ago my sister in law had a 1920s themed wedding.
Me: spends a few months studying period magazines, photos, and fashion ads. Sews historically accurate outfit complete with period underwear and stockings.
Every other guest: buys "sexy flapper girl" costume from Halloween shop
My poor husband spent the entire wedding listening to me whine about other people's clothes.
LOL. Same here. I show up at theme party dressed historically correct and everyone else bought their togas at some Halloween store or are using bed sheets.
Ahh
xD
But complaining about how people are dressed is so much fun!
@@paletasdhielo yeah it’s so much fun! 😂😂 Every time my mom and I watch period style dramas, she has to listen to me rant about how inaccurate the clothes are and list facts about the time period
“Back then, it’s more fashionable to look like a potato bag than have something that actually fits you.”
What I wish today's fashion standards were
I missed my time.
feel like my times lol
Terrifying times...
Autumn Gaikowski-Lindsay Have you heard of Street fashion?
Imagine people 3050 looking at pictures of the Kardashian’s and thinking “so that’s what people wore in 2018!” Lol
Then you compare that to the everyday fashion of teens from the era: hoodie and sweats, all black and grey
ehh tbf her make up look is both extreme and super popular though.
ROFLMFAO! Anthropology is a thankless discipline ;)
Resting sad face you made me feel off my bed
@@PrettyPinkPeacock Maybe in the U.S or Canada, but it surely isn't in Europe or East Asia which make up a huge part of the human population, so it's really not that popular.
Therapist: Modern Karolina doesn’t exist, she can’t hurt you.
Modern Karolina: *exists in sunglasses*
I- 🤣
I’m dying
*laughs in modern fashion*
Modern Karolina look so cool while Vintage Karolina look elegent(is that how we spell it shshhzhs). I love bothhhh
your username scares me/lh
"So basically, I have this little black dress-"
"NOOOOOOooooo"
NoOoOoOoOoOoOo
NOoOOoOoOooO
I really feel those "time-traveler slip-ups". My friends have a running list of weird shit I've said that is "evidence" that I'm actually a vampire/immortal. Being a history nerd does weird things to your thought process.
Mood
No one has mentioned reincarnation yet.
nyn bat xD
Bro i can relate to you a lot. I know a lot about like the past and like old songs that my granma doesn't even know and it makes it look like im older than her but like im in a young body lol. I just know abt those things since i do a lotta research becoz i think its really interesting.
Same. Especially since I'm always in a suit because I work pretty much everyday and am on call even when I'm chilling with my friends (im a mortician) lol
Even the video's length is 19:20! That's attention to details.
I genuinely had no idea hahaha
When an English teacher reads too much into the book 😂
michbabe lmao!! This was already a great comment thread, and you managed to make it better :D
There's no such thing as reading "too much" into a book. Literature is like art, and everyone can interpret it in many different ways. Looking at a piece of art (painting, sculpture, novel, poem, etc.), you can admire both the stylistic and artistic choices of the artist, guess upon the artist's intentions, and also bring your own background and past experiences into an interpretation uniquely your own. That's the true power of art. Not "looking pretty," but inspiring us to make connections between and within ourselves, the human condition, and the meaning of life.
manicmuffin found the teachers pet
So, does that mean all those cutesy photos of women in the 20’s flashing their kneecaps were of somebody’s grandma getting freaky?
oh my
Yuuup :) that was the "thots" behavior back then. So cute hahaha 😆 perceptions
Those were the nudes back then
@@yogarcia6066 lmao showing your knees = full nude
Girls gone wild....
My great-grandmother called ballerinas all sorts of names because they showed their knees haha.
I think Betty Boop distorted the image of the 1920s fashion era. Her hairstyle is reminiscent of the bob haircuts of the 1920s, but her clothing is very tight and revealing, and her silhouette is far too curvy to represent the beauty standards of that era. Once Betty Boop was developed into a whole character of her own, I think she was meant to be a contemporary fashion icon of the 1930’s who could invoke some nostalgia for the care-free, pre-depression era, but without appearing dated.
Logan Downs Betty Boop was based on Esther baby Jones who didn’t have the stereotypical alleged 1920 body type.
@@duchessofdissent5728 No, actually -- she was based off Helen Kane.
Edit: wait never mind I'm stupid
Please, stop hating on Betty Boop, ok?!
@@Sarasapien Who says we were hating on a damn cartoon? You okay?
Questionable Q lol yes I’m okay :) I’m just being stupid 🌻
"Flat boyish silhouette" wow, i could've been considered sexy in 1920s
And I'm here thinking, my non-binary kid would have loved an undergarment that smoothed and flattened their silhouette! I wonder how many people had some degree of relief from gender dysphoria due to these non-corsets? 🤗
I read a novel awhile back about this woman who had always been considered unattractive and unfashionable, then she came into some money and went to buy new clothes for a trip. The sales girls were all gushing over her figure and she was like, “Wait, WHAT?”
@@shayelea its like i always say "you're not ugly, you're just poor"
And I would've been really unattractive 😂
And in the 60s with Twiggy.
My Grandmothers wore corsets without boning until 2004 until they passed away. Today its called " shape wear", corsets have never gone away.
If it has no boning it's technically a girdle, even if they still label it as a corset to sell
I boned my corset yesterday, came right in the ribs!
@@omarkiller2222 THIS!!!!!!! gahahaha
Shapewear, spandex, heck even Tuxedos are designed to gently tighten the waist and help create the snatched waist look.
Or the girdle. That is what they called them (no I'm not elderly)
You should do a video roasting historical halloween costumes
Claire Fee I would love to do that!! Most people are so inaccurate about fashion history
YES! ROAST THE HEATHENSSSS
Omg yes
Yes, please! Especially since Halloween is in two days...
@@MichelSarmento On Halloween you're supposed to be inaccurate since it's not reenactment but a mockery of a certain style. A reenactor that rants about innacuracy on Halloween costumes is as dumb as a person who buys Halloween costumes as real clothes from the period.
20s: "I am highly misrepresented!"
Edwardian Era: "At least people sorta recognize you and don't think you are your younger sibling whenever they see a corset..." 'eyes over to Victorian Era'
Needleworker's Realm I KNOW RIGHT!! The Edwardian and Victorian era are my favorite ♡♡♡
I highly dislike the Edwardian Era, but am in love with the Victorian Era. Lol. It drives me crazy when someone refers to Edwardian dress as Victorian.
People also like mix Regency in with Victorian or use Regency images when speaking about the earlier Georgian period around the Seven Years War or American Revolutionary War (Regency & both those wars are in the Georgian Era but the fashion during the sub-era of Regency was vastly different).
Fax 🅱️
Kristin Byers I feel you on the Regency era! It's one of my favorite eras and all these romance novels and books have skewed how the general public sees it,
I love the Victorian Era too...but you know whats worse??? When I wear my ELIZABETHAN gown and people tell me they like my VICTORIAN dress....ummmm you are about 300 or so years off (and they look nothing alike) but ok *glares at them in Fashion History*
"I don't think I've seen that many people wear/do that..."
Admit it. You lived through the 1920s. You were not born in this era.
She was born in the beginning of time she's an immortal vampire
This is why Edith Head wore blue lensed glasses so that she would be able to see what the camera saw. And was better able to dress the actresses in the correct colors/styles for films.
I thought it was common sense that every day people didn't wear what celebrities or actresses wore.
You'd think so, but the famous people's looks are easier to find and more famous, so...
@@robinchesterfield42, exactly.
And what's wrong with wanting to look like the celebrities of the time anyway?
I mean a good chunk of why fashion changed was b/c of influential and powerful people. To make rich/expensive fashion affordable for all to wear lol.
@@pinds83 That's not wrong, pretending everyone wore this style is
@@user-xb5bz4fu9o, when you put things into perspective though, is it really a huge deal if someone dresses like a 1920s celeb? No. So, who friggin' cares? We'll all be dead soon anyway.
i love the fact that the video lasts exactly 19:20
holy crap you're right
:o
One distinction though: women of good social standing never left home without gloves and a hat, ever! Evening gloves (and styles of them, and the dresscode they involved, or dressing for an evening at the opera etc are another issue.
My grandmother was born 1906 and lived to 99, 5 years old. She never left the house without gloves and hat or barét or at least a silk scarf. She was my best friend and closest family member and I learned all I know about her era of life, fashion, housekeeping etc from her, as well as life skills to manage through hard times, rationing; also the womens rights movement, adaptibility and social duties to the less fortunate. I wish everyone had the experience of a close relationship to someone of her generation, I miss her dearly.
You are so lucky to have that knowledge. Do you keep a blog to share it with others?
It's actually pretty uncommon to see photos of women in the 1920s wearing gloves unless they're also wearing heavy coats. While some women would have kept the tradition of their parents' eras, it's more likely that the older women today who never leave the house without wearing a hat and gloves obtained that habit in the 1950s when it was fashionable.
i love that the length is 19:20
Melyssa Hawes wow :0
Did she do that on purpose??
Witchcraft!
One of my least favorite things about people who claim to love 1920s fashion is that they really only like Hollywood's version of 1920s fashion, but believe authentic pieces from that time are ugly and unflattering. In today's curvy society, perhaps we would think the boxy shape of the 20s is ugly, but back then it was scandalous, a complete rejection of prewar standards of beauty, and through that, prewar standards of everything, even morality. I love real 1920s fashion not only because I find it aesthetically pleasing, but because I love The Lost Generation and everything they did to mold their own version of Western Society out of everything the war left behind.
People that call it ugly have no imagination, theres always something beautiful to be had. My figure lends itself very well to this (small bust, straighter waist) so I think the drop waist style is adorable! I love the points you made. When you search out the authentic instead of the generic representation, there's so much more to be had!
Hi guys I have a 1920's party dance to attend in December where can I find more of the actual dress evening wear or something like that is the style of the not movie 1920's?
Arielle Mermaid I think that the best idea is to thrift something that looks close to the look you're going for then try to adjust the dress to be more historically accurate. As for accessories, you can raid a sewing drawer for little scraps of fabric and try to fashion them into something resembling 1920s accessories. At least, that's how I do it :)
@@ariellel6123 Amazon or Wish. Party City websites
I feel like people could say they only like 50s fashion because of Hollywood, too.
It probably doesn't help that most Hollywood movies are godawful when it comes to representing the 1920s.
LittleMissLounge except movies from that time period. But you're correct about modern movies.
S.E.G. Studio Actually, I thought they did a pretty damn good job. The costumes weren’t quite right for 1922, but for general 20s pastiche it’s one of the better ones.
they're not too bad except for Daisy's costumes that look very 1929-meets-modern-Chanel to me. but then, to not accentuate the leading lady's waist would be a disgrace!
When I hear 1920s, I immediately think of Julie Andrews in Thoroughly Modern Millie -- though the movie was made in the 60s, it isn't too far off fashion-wise.
IceNixie0102 that movie took place in 1922 though and the dresses looked like they were from 1929. So still not accurate.
I went to a 1920s gala a year ago and bought an antique heavily beaded/sequined tabard dress and all antique accessories. Needless to say, I stuck out in a sea of fringed dresses! It’s ok though, my dress was gorgeous and and I felt beautiful in it.
Good for you 😌
Great and I bet tbey were green wjth envy.
I wish she would stop swirling her eyes way up to the left it really disturbing and detracts from what she has to say,flapping your hands around also detracts frim the message. Pity🤨
In the 1920s they stopped wearing "corsets". They were called "girdles". My mother was born in 1920, so I got to see fashion through her - looking at all her photos of her life.
I'MDEprEssEdaNDqUIrkY im 16 and my grandad was born in 1930 xD be died 2016 i think?
@I'MDEprEssEdaNDqUIrkY aw..
My great grandmother was born in the 20s and she is currently 98 I believe, about to be 99 :)
My great-Aunt wore a corset until she died, in 1976. The only place we could order one for her in later years was Sears Roebuck.
Yep my grandmas both wore girdles until they were in their 70s.
@@RobertLutece909 yeah, why would children under ten years of age need that
That skit in the beginning is so damn relate-able. And it's always that same black fringe dress!
I think people just don't get that a lot of those 'glamor' photographs they're looking are actually risque images of burlesque dancers and movie stars. It's like if somebody a hundred years from now were to look at pictures of Beyonce in her stage costumes and decide that was just how women dressed in 2018. Not a safe assumption at all!
I'm sorry did you just assume that I dont wear that in my day to day life?!💁
Oh dam that's a really good comparison. I'm gonna use that next time
I don't dress like any stage Beyoncé. I'm coachella Beyoncé
@@oliveoconnor5589 Lmao, well if you do, then that's awesome. Then there's me, sees something cute or glittery and I buy it then I wear it, but constantly worry about damaging it or getting it dirty. lol
*looks at a picture of Lady Gaga in her meat dress*
"How very interesting. They wore garments made of meat in the 2000s!"
Flat chest was fashionable? Finally my era.
😂
Amen
Shetasen lol
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Same
Can we _PLEASE_ appreciate the fact that the video is 19:20 minutes long?? It just fits the overall feeling so much!!
Are you me? Are we the same person? I've had this conversion on the phone hundreds of times, and I have to start every conversation with, "Do you want to dress authentically, or are you just going to rehash every cheap two-bit "1960s variety show does 1920s" costume?"
I remember how pissed I was that a TA with no historical fashion experience took points off in my 1950s Popular Culture Class essay on fashion, because I referenced the transition from 1940s utility fashions into continued post-war rationed wear in Europe, then went through how New Look was an influence, but too expensive fabric wise for most women to emulate initially, how the 50s transitioned into mid decade trends, and then what we think of 60s influences. I got a note on my paper that said "Stick to the 50s!"
I was incensed. No decade stands alone. There is no point where the decade ends and everyone throws out the last decade's influences.
EXACTLY! Just watch any TV show that was _actually_ made during a decade, and look how long it takes the clothes to change to the look everybody thinks about.
Or another fave subject of mine--music. Every decade has songs that sound like the previous one in the beginning, then some that kinda foreshadow the next towards the end. I've made several chronological decade collections, (why? for fun!) and each time, I've been able to pick a very last song that kinda sounds like the next decade, and it was indeed from the _current_ one the collection was about. For example, with the 1950's collection, I ended on the "Peter Gunn Theme"--which sounds SO James Bond-y, but was from 1959.
Look how DISCO the fashions of 1980 are! Or the first season of Mad Men with the round longer skirts and ponytails! Or how some early 1970's songs are still totally war-protesty. As you said, no decade stands alone, and I for one find the _actual_ transitions fascinating.
Direness well if you don't agree with the TAs grade, you can always take it to the professor of the class or the dean. :) Then get the grade you deserve. Maybe they'll see your passion and offer you a part time job in the field of study. :)
That TA should've been taken to task for such a ridiculous comment. How he/she could even hold that position with that point of view is beyond comprehension.
Robin Chesterfield I remember watching "The Funhouse" that was made in 1981 and the way the main character dressed reminded me of the 70's. Or the movie "He Knows Your Alone" was made in 1980(also Tom Hank's first film) and the way the cop looks in it and the house looks like a magazine from the 70's.
Direness Exactly! History doesn't exist in a vacuum!
Sensing lots of knee fetishes in that era
It was the first time knees were SEEN!
Yeah possibly so because during this time period men were attracted to women's calf muscles
trippy alien I-
finally they got over ankles xDDDD
Knees and ankles had been hidden until then. So when the hemlines came up a little and ankles were shown ... *le gasp!* Shocking! So when hemlines came up to just below the knee, and when you walked up stairs or stepped up into a car, you'd give this very provocative flash of knee. *GASP!!!* Scandalous!
And prior to this, no makeup was the fashion. Victorian ladies didn't wear makeup (or wore very little of it, and then lied about it), and Edwardian ladies wore just a teensy bit, but in a way so they didn't look like they were wearing makeup. Older ladies in the Edwardian era (1900-1910 ish) thought it was scandalous that the younger ladies were wearing rouge on their cheeks or wearing lip-tints. Rather the same as the older folks being scandalised by the super short mini skirts.
Why are the beauty ideals always something super unreasonable?
"Be thin everywhere, but large chested"
"Be thick and curvaceous, but not fat"
"Be flat-chested and ruler-shaped, but not skinny"
That's a weird wayto see something that is simply "Don't be black or white, be grey" like obviously modern standars for example are not only "don't be fat" is also "don't be skinny", Is the middle what you don't see... You can be skinny without being obese and be skinny without being anorexic... it's not that hard to understand
@@cesar6447 But modern standards aren't that lol. The standard is "be fat, but only in the places I want" (chest, hips, thighs, etc.), which is impossible unless your genetics blessed you with lucky fat distribution
Because they want you to embody sort of 'connection of the opposites', which is always impossible (or barely impossible) to achieve.
Like you know, they want you 'being thin' but if you are too far in it, you become shadowy/questionable ('she looks so unhealthy, she might be suffering from annorexia, or is a drug addict or whatever').
It's because if beauty ideals were actually reachable, how would they sell you products to make you look more like those impossible ideals?
Be a horse. Be the night sky. Be seen and not seen. Levitate.
The costumers of Downton Abbey did a great job showing the gradual changes in fashion, with some people changing their style and others continuing older fashion silhouettes
One thing you forgot to mention about Hollywood makeup at the time that it was very vibrant and clown-like, but you can't tell because it's in black and white, but the strange colors made the film look the way the director wanted. (Like how the Addams Family set was actually bright pink to get the proper eerie haunted house look on B&W film.)
TheSameYellowToy Lol it was said the reason they put on so much eyeliner was because the eyes were hard to see on the camera. Creepy lol.
she did cover that
Wait seriously??? That's so cool!!
She definitely mentioned that 😊 very interesting!
Also fwiw, bright pink is a huge, dominant occultic color 😞😔😝 But that's a whole different topic of conversation.
The real makeup used in early films was bizarre colors, to make facial features show up... bright chartreuse yellow, blues, stark heavy black. It must've looked crazy lol! 😁
Make another one for the 80's, a lot of people are exaggerating 80s fashion and making them look bad, while the actual one I personally think it's really cool
This. People think 80's fashion is all mismatched neon vomit an I hate it lmao
me: the 80s werent even that long ago, how can people mess it up already...
also me, realising we are now in 2021 :*surprised pikachu face *
OMG THIS I’m currently looking up 1980s fashion for a story I’m writing and every time I google “1980s women’s fashion” I’ll get a bunch of images of cheap exaggerated Halloween costumes like NO I’m looking for actual 1980s stuff
Additionally, late 80s was different from early 80s(which basically applies to every era).
@@judyemmstoyradio3064 Exactly!
One thing that could help (albeit, perhaps a little creepy) is to find real-deal photos of the era you’re looking at online. No ads, stock photos or anything meant to sell something, just real-deal run of the mill photos. Things like family photos, Christmas photos or even home videos could help. A lot of people tend to share their personal old photos & videos online. Photos from news/big events can also help, since the point of them wasn’t to exaggerate anything (or at least exaggerate anything visually).
Does that mean that flapper clothes then was what Coachella clothes are now?
To put it nicely, flappers then were our THOTs now
There was also a severe shortage of men in 1920 & I’ve often wondered whether younger women were having fun with fashion because they weren’t trying to please men, or whether they were having fun because they were competing for the few single men. I love 1920s fashion. I used to have some of my grandmother’s day dresses-they were long and drapey with dropped waists and sashes.
Because of ww1?
@@alia.1041 no most single people people ether died during the war or quickly got married before the war
A few years ago I made a 3 piece 1920's dress for my sister, (she had to wear 20's fashion for an event); But when she showed me the pictures of that knight I notice she didn't wear the dress, instead she wore a short black dress and a feather on her head because she didn't wanted to look out of place compared to everyone else, I got really mad and I promise not to sew her a garment again.
hahaha that's a bit sad but yes, 1920s fashion is not as flattering and sexy as everyone wants it to, especially day-to-day fashions. for sexy screen sirens I would suggest 1930s instead!
karllydolly really :c that so sad for real
Mokoshh it's real the dress has never been worn, but I didn't kept my promise, I can't be mad at my sis for long.
It's because of fotos (most of them from the end of that decade) like this, that people think, 1920s dresses were tight fitted, and all about fringe and sexyness:
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But all these women were famous movie stars, who wanted to look as modern, beautiful und sexy as possible. Or the pictures were taken on film sets, where the actresses played dancers or whatever.
Antonia Pust yes, that's why plus what Karolina explained on the video. It's a shame ppl don't know the difference.
Above the knee skirts started right before WWII- as a way to save fabric for the war. The skirts became long again one last time for the 1950s, before finally become short as a fashion staple in the mid 1960s.
Amanda Dixson Thank you.
Amanda Dixson I think they were knee length, not above the knee. You don’t see above the knee until mid 60s.
LOL, they didn't turn down their "pantyhose!" I think you meant their hose or stockings.
Seymour Clearly that is the same thing as pantyhose
They certainly did show their knees before WWII. Look at phozos from that time. There also have always been fashion rebels ;)
"Good girls" wore girdles until pantyhose appeared in the late '60s. (You knew you were finally a woman when your mother gave you your first girdle, so your behind wouldn't jiggle when you walked.) When I was in high school in the late'50s/early '60s your skirt hem had to touch the floor when you knelt on the floor, or you were sent home. Throughout the '60s, a straight skirt did NOT cut in under your behind, and if clothing had stretch-folds across the front, it was obviously too small.
LOL! Another boomer! Remember your first set of princess heels? and your first set of stockings? The rule of three for underthings? I was a 60s teeny bopper, so my skirts had to reach below the tips of my fingers. When "melted and poured" dresses were a shame, not a fashion trend. Slips? Another fashion casualty.
Dodi Tov Oh, fingertip-length skirts are fun. My high school in the 2000's had the "fingertip length" rule for skirts. I never wore anything above the knee, so I didn't worry about it then, but as an adult, I learned that my long torso and short arms mean that my fingertips hit just a couple of inches under my butt - if I'd worn a skirt that short to school, they would have changed the length policy in a heartbeat!
I must say that's quite funny because I graduated high school in 2017 (in South Africa, we have compulsory school uniforms here) and we had to kneel on a chair/bench too, to make sure the skirt would touch it. So, some things take a while to change unfortunately haha ;)
The reasoning behind it (so your behind wouldn't jiggle) seems bizarre.
I thought it was for your figure and so you could hold your stockings up, which makes sense. Is this really something people paid attention to when it came to TEENAGE GIRLS? I'd be more worried about the people looking at teenage butts that closely. I'm not aware of mine "jiggling" at all in vintage clothing, which generally isn't super tight and doesn't draw attention to that body part. I just walked back and forth in front of the mirror and even in my nightgown, I see no "jiggling". Granted, I'm petite and skinny but how fat could the average 50s teenage girl have been?
"Jiggle" was probably the wrong word. Put your hands on your behind and walk. Feel the way one cheek goes up, then the other cheek goes up, then ... and so on. That's what the girdle was supposed to reduce, but I couldn't think of a word for it.
"For your figure" -- no way a '50s or '60s mother was going to want to enhance her teenaged daughter's figure! Adult women wore them to hold in a waist and belly, and lift a sagging behind, and because it wasn't considered "nice" not to, but very young women would be wearing them to tame that backside.
"Hold stockings up" - stockings for teens were for special occasions only. They were expensive (whether silk or the new-fangled nylon) and you could rarely get more than two wearings out of them before they were full of runs. We had garters, worn just above the knee, worked fine with full skirts that didn't pull up when you sat down, and garter belts. Girdles worked better with stockings than garter belts because garter belts tended to let the stockings fall down when sitting released the tension on the front straps. But again, teens rarely wore stockings anyway.
"People looking at teenaged butts" -- high school boys would literally battle to be the one right behind a girl going up stairs in a straight skirt. They had little enough to look at otherwise, and that sway and rise and fall, and resulting speculation, was worth the battle.
So to summarize: knee-less, forehead-less, breast-less, pale potatoe was the look to go for.
Sounds like an amoeba
🤣🤣😂😂 you're not wrong...
They really took the woman figure and stripped everything off from it we'd love to see on one today. . Man id be way too curvy!
@@RobertLutece909 *wHaT have tHeY doNe tO Our thiCk wiVes?*
I would be THE beauty icon in the 20's
@@RobertLutece909 *oH NO fIRSt We hAVe tO FIgHt a WaR aND NoW aLl Of tHE CurVY WaMAn ARe gOnE!!!!! WhATeVeR sHALl I DO???????*
cuz women couldn't be happy, comfortable, and party with their boyfriends/husbands who returned home from war without being absolute QUEENS and not be forced to wear ultra tight clothing made for misogynistic men
Let's bring 1920's fashion back into style for those of us who prefer the potato sack look please
Everyone's fat now so it would be nice to not have to see the jiggling.
No lol
Meriam I am a potato sack lol
not everyone is skinny=everyone is fat.
luckily you can choose to look like you want these days, you just can't choose how people look at you. so you can wear a potato sack, but can't make everyone do the same)
“Yooo I saw her KNEES, bro it was so SMEXY”
"Bro is it getting hot in here or did I just see her kneecaps?"
xD
"smexy" sounds like Mexican sexy.
@@mansionwb y e s
My grandmother (born in the Edwardian era), said she wore bandages over singlets or spencers underwear, to flatten her bust, then a corselette or a camisole to hold it all in place.
amazing!
Karolina, do you have an email address that I can send you pictures of my grandmother in the late twenties/early thirties ball gowns?
You should find it at the "Info" tab on my channel!
Seems like a painful trend
Ouch, I would have suffered so much in that era lol
So, I've been researching 1920's fashion for a (completely unsurprising) Gatsby themed wedding in October. And I just had a revelation and I'm certain that this is the only place where someone will care.
Ok.
I think......that people get the long gloves trend from Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany's??
Because the 20s has the cigarette holders all day and I think the muggles automatically think cigarette holders = that iconic image.
Idk. Just a thought. Also I find that many people seem to get the 20s confused with a 30s hollywood glam vibe.
Anyway. I'm sewing a dress and going historically accurate cause I'm that girl. Just can't decide between early 20s or mid 20s.
Also I'm totally a huge fangirl and love your videos.
Nicole Kristich i have the same themed party this week that i hope at least one item would be correct
Probably you won't even read this, but can you tell us where to get authentic 1920s sewing patterns?
@@R83145 Etsy.com has a lot of shops that reproduce historic patterns. I found the one I'm using there. Some people size them others leave that to you. PastPatterns.com also has a great selection of multi-sized and single sized historic patterns from various decades.
Did you....did you just call us muggles? 😂
I know this is off-topic, but can you do a tutorial on how to do that gorgeous scarf wrap over your hair? When I try it, it comes undone pretty quickly.
yes! i second that. i’m new to your channel and i was transfixed by your scarf prowess. tutorial please!!!
+1!
Same!!
Please do.
Yessss 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 it looks gorgeous and I desperately want to try
Are you telling me that there are people who think women in the 1920s wore stilettos and had long wavy hair!?!?!
Ugh. Mary Pickford and Olive Thomas both had long wavy hair. Karolina doesn't know everything and her forte is style and fashion trends, not a "time traveler." There were carry-overs from the 1910s style in the early 1920s. Young rebellious women also wore skirts above their knees on purpose (to piss people off or attract young men) not because their clothes were "ill-fitting" or "hand-me-downs" as Karolina has absurdly suggested. They wore headbands, yes, headbands were a thing among the very young. I think Karolina chooses to focus on the upper class, and middle-class housewives. That's fine, and she's right that most women didn't look like that or wear black fringe dresses, but she's not one hundred percent correct.
@Sandra Swan Okay but what I said was true. Look up Mary Pickford and Olive Thomas they were prominent actresses women would have copied from the late 1910s in the early 1920s. I'm not a fashion expert but my great-aunt was a little girl in the 1920s and I knew her well before she died when I was in middle school. I watch silent films, and read old novels from the modern period (approximately 1900s to 1940s). You have to do more than just look at fashion photos, to truly get inside the mind of the 1920s you have to appreciate their art, their writing, their film, and the fact that fashion didn't move as quickly as it does today. No TV, no internet, poor people had newspapers or magazines, went occasionally to the picture show. Karolina is absolutely talented at sewing clothes or capturing a look of a long-ago period. That being said, I find her lacking in any one deep period. Do you understand what I mean? I like the modern period in fiction. My favorite historical period runs approximately from 1890 to 1955. She doesn't specialize in a period, if she does it's like from the 18th century, there's a lot of important detail missing and that needs to be corrected. I like what she does but some of her videos are too arrogant.
@Sandra Swan Lottie Pickford, too.
@Sandra Swan Dolores Costello (Drew Barrymore's grandma)....the examples are endless. The marcel wave is something important you should know about 1920s hair. Not every woman was a rich lady in New York or London. And women did copy movie actresses, too.
@Sandra Swan a lot of the hairstyles you see in the "punk" or teenaged movements of the 1970s are from the 20s and 30s because those were their grandparents (my great-aunt was my mom's aunt). The butt-length hair with big black eyeliner and red lips. Even the weird frizzy hair that was straight at the top and clipped with barrettes or put into ponytails looks exactly like a Lottie Pickford photo. www.pinterest.com/pin/766034217865522518/ ...young people tend to hate everything about their parents but be inspired by the fashion of their grandparents or great-grandparents. The horned rimmed glasses and tendency toward DIY in older X-ennials and the first wave of Millennials is a reflection of having grandparents who were young from WWII through the early 60s, for example. It also suggests a retrieval of late 1800s style (the beards and waxed mustaches, for instance) which I think is distinctly from Millennial childhoods viewing films or art of mostly Gen X (but sometimes Boomers) trying to capture the last century (19th) at the more recent turn of the century (20th).Think about how many movies from the 1990s are about the 1890s. It's almost too much to account for
The key word for 1920s fashion is androgyny. Girls wanted the boyish figure. They wanted to chop their hair off like Joan of Arc. If you think you could be mistaken for a boy in a dress and lipstick, you're probably doing it right. If you are a boy in a dress... well, it wasn't very publicized, but it did happen. That's how Conrad Veidt was divorced by his first wife. He wore a designer gown she was waiting for to a crossdressing dinner party.
Seraphina Sullivan One she was waiting for? He wore it before she could? He must have wanted a divorce!
Kathryn Geeslin she ordered it and was waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Then she got home late from work (she was a cabaret dancer, I think) and there he was, wearing it, surrounded by other men in drag. Then she divorced him. At least, that's what she told the journalist.
Seraphina Sullivan interesting world we live in.
Funny example--not the most accurate, but ever seen the movie "Thoroughly Modern Millie"? Basically Julie Andrews' character wants to look like the fashionable girls around her when she comes to the city, so she gets a dress and a string of beads like that...but the beads bunch up and flop all over the place.
...unTIL she gets a corset that _flattens down her boobs_, and only THEN is the look right! XD
Seraphina Sullivan I wonder if "potato sac" to the hip was some kind of rebellion after 100 s of years of corsets.
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"Yep, old Hollywood was pretty racist."
*Old* Hollywood? *Was* ?
حان وقت لعب دور الضحية
@@adecentdelinquent8986 ?
@@medelicoribu7072google translate says it means "time to play the victim"
Yea they're the worst now. They even have diversity checklists. What a joke
I could see you as a university professor lecturing about this subject EASILY
I feel really lucky to have access to pictures of my family ancestors from 1913, 1929, 1943, 1955, etc. (we even have a tintype). As to the flapper costumes, people cling to them because they are fun and sexy, similar to inaccurate saloon girl costumes of the 1800's. It never occurred to me that those cheap Halloween costumes were supposed to be historically accurate.
Thank you for a thoughtful video.
“I have not witnessed 1920’s, what am I talking about?”
*L I E S*
I understood she was talking about her research of the fashions of the twenties.
Edith Gray yeah I’m just playing on the joke that she is immortal haha
She probably went into coffin slumber until she could get healed by moonlight again
Jellyfish 0 that is definitely a possibility
*_F A L S E H O O D_*
Who else is watching this in Dec. 2019 to get ready for the 2020s?
Edit: It is now July 2020.... oof... 😅
Too funny....meeeeee
New Years ever partay!!
This is stressing me out
lol me
Yep. Going to a Roaring 20's NYE party 😬
Me too! Party theme!
Haha yes! Throwing a 20’s party
"the ideal is to be flat and have some meat on"
well, my body would be very desirable back then. Great video! Love how knowledgeable you are!
Whoo boy, same. My sister call me the titless wonder😬
I have no boobs but also no meat. I was born in the wrong generation. There must have been a time when I would have had a "nice" figure.
Mc Hobbit the 90s loved kate moss, and her sharp stature. truly, we can never be happy with ourselves 100%
I have no boobies too! And I have reeally meaty legs... probably too wide hips for the 20’s? Idk
Mc Hobbit in the 60’s and 90’s you would have had the “ideal” figure.no worries body trends always come back around.
Oh god. Oh god, this again. Whenever people try to be like “oh, 1920s was so fun and fringe and champagne,” and I’m like NOOOOOOOOOOO! There is so much more history behind the 1920s. It was the first, whole decade after women got rights. It was during the first wave of feminism. The 20s was also after the war. People don’t think about the history!
I thought the first wave was the suffragettes(?) in the victorian era. But 1919 (i dunno if everywhere but in Germany at least) women got the rights to vote.
Yes. But women were already becoming more loose prior to the 1920s. The 1890s was called the "Naughty Nineties" for a reason.
Only white women got the right to vote in 1920
Topsyturvy10 that’s not accurate. There were some Southern states that denied the right to vote to blacks until the voting rights act of 1965, not through all of the US.
@@bellasmom2013 okay? That's great?? Like thanks for elaborating but don't tell me I'm wrong when I'm not
When I was in highschool one of our history projects was to research what life was like in the 1920's and one of the things we had to research was what people wore. I spent HOURS looking for credible sources of fashion other than the flapper and vamp outfits and didn't find a thing. Not everyone wore the same style, it's not how it was then it's not how it is now, and I knew that, but because of the attention we have given to the flapper fashion that it seems to be all the 1920's fashion was composed of. It frustrates me because it takes depth out of history and makes those people who lived in that time a singular group of people void of all individuality and personality. They were real people with personalities and and differing views, not one person was the same and writing history with broad terms means you will eventually forget a part of it.
At 16, my grandma bobbed her hair, and her dad gave her a good cussing. That was 1925, and he was not amused. Her clothes were dresses that DID look like a potato sack, and as the Depression came about, probably WERE made of those sacks at times. I thought she was beautiful, and she never wore makeup, because first, the expense, second, the impracticality, as she picked cotton to feed her children. A bob would have been practical in the hot sun, and she told me she wore an old bonnet to keep the sun off her face. Also, VERY practical. Thanks for the video, and for keeping it honest and real.
To be fair probably the only reason people are so inaccurate at 1920s parties is they probably don’t care and the fact that if they were to actually go full on 1920s it would be considered unflattering today plus some of the styles are hard to replicate
I agree, If you want to be historically accurate, great, but if another person isn't that fastidious, so what? There are many worse things a person could do.
True. And I’m not costuming an historically accurate movie. And if I’m going to a party or a “Gatsby” themed wedding do I want to be the one person who is walking around saying “Well ACTSHUALLY people didn’t actually wear that”? No, let people have their fun
@@edgarallenpwned3538 Good point, Everyone *loves* that person. As much as they love the person who responds to what they said with "Actually you shouldn't have used "nauseous* you should have said "nauseated*. We've all met them in different incarnations.
Bettie Stiletto YES! Or the person who decides to scoff at your delicious lunch of General Taos’s chicken and chicken chow mein to inform you that these aren’t “authentic” Chinese dishes, and that you’re obviously a philistine who hasn’t travelled much like *they* have if you’re able to eat that kind of *Westernized garbage*, as they go on and on giving their unsolicited advice about how you really need to go to one particular restaurant in some obscure town 100 miles away which actually makes the most AUTHENTIC Peking Duck and orange slices for dessert
Then you crack open your fortune cookie, which they inform you aren’t even a Chinese invention, and the fortune inside tells you that you will meet a person who will test your patience
I think I love you. I'm literally laughing out loud, as I have met the Chow Mein oracle.
Three times I have met them. Can there be three official oracles, perhaps not, but I'm sure an oracle oracle will chime in and let me know if I'm woefully ignorant in that department.
There's also the "Most obscure song by your favourite band that you, you poor ignorant plebe have obviously never heard of, though you'll never actually be asked before the soliloquy begins. It sounds remarkably like that of the "Authentic Peking Duck" in passion, if not in kind..
One fact I do like throwing around but only to silence the arrogant prats, is that a fundamental rule of the English language is that common usage dictates correctness, It's always been effective.
For the other testers of patience, at least Portandia can be an antidote, though at times it's so accurate it can trigger flashbacks..
As a child, I was told that flappers were called flappers because they had long saggy boobs that flapped around when they danced and that all women looked like this in the 20s. I don't know why. But I wished to share this misinformation with you.
ZachsAnomaly I-
Lol 😄
😂😂😂😂
thank you so much
Lmfao 😂
Hm would it be acceptable to go as an Erté muse? Im thinking half naked, wrapped in fur with a giant bejeweled headpiece? Preferably with a cheetah on a leash
pindaenbeer BLESS
LIVING
Iconic
Nailed it!
I love this so much lol
Oh my goodness...my school had a 20's themed banquet, and though I admit, my dress wasn't all that historically accurate (more like 1920s INSPIRED, but you know, with authenticity comes cost). However I didn't particularly claim it WAS accurate to the decade. But one of my friends comes in my room having had her makeup done by a slightly older girl. The poor dear had basically maroon lipstick and heavy eye makeup (I think it looked more like a goth person). THEN THE OLDER GIRL STARTS TALKING ABOUT THE SILENT SINEMA PEOPLE TO DEFEND HER COLOR CHOICES. And I'm over in the corner going "Oh no oh please no..." NOT EVERYONE NEEDED TO CREATE CONTRAST BETWEEN THEIR EYES AND LIPS AND FACE TO BE SEEN ON CAMERA!!! Poor historical me was cringing sufficiently that evening. But I suppose I understand the cost issue, and most people can't afford to spend a couple hundred dollars on a dress they will wear once.
At last someone gets realistic with 20's makeup! Thank you. I am tired of seeing tutorials from "20's girls" looking like racoons. Also, that black and white movies and pictures back then was not our black and white. They had way more contrast, hence the darkness.
I love your videos btw!!
Of all the the things in this world to be be bloody sick and tired of, I have to say those raccoon eyed girls who think they look like women from the 1920s are tops on my list.. for sure. Isn't there some kind of law.. Deport the lot of them, it's a disgrace.
Can you do 80's fashion? Cause these days people seem to think that the 80's was just neon vomit 😂😂 Anyway I just like a lot of era's and their fashion, and I think that these caricatures that people make of these era's are very silly ( e.g the 70's hippie )
The 80s were such a lawless wasteland. Urban fashion, goth, new wave, rockabilly, punk, whatever Molly Ringwald was doing that week, denim on denim, preppy, yuppie, androgyny, athletic gear, Aqua Net, the advent of the baseball cap, and shoulder pads as far as the eye could see...
God I love 80s fashion ❤️
How about 80’s trad goth
I hate when people just throw on neon legwarmers, a tutu and put their hair up in a side ponytail and say they're dressed like the 80's lol
Emily Williams “whatever molly ringwald was doing that week,” KSSKSKKSKS why is that so true. 😂
80s fashion is so confusing. One minute you have a look that appears like 2019, then the other that looks like a cheesy exercise video with spandex and thick moustaches
I think whenever you get a term for an fashion, like 'flapper' or 'hippie', the whole decade becames a stereotype. I remember going to a music festival and people were dressed as stereotypical hippies while I saw going around in my actual vintage 70s clothes and people who not stop staring at me.
mintjaan The same thing happened to me, also it annoys me how people on music festivals (or even worse, costume parties) go on and say "I'm dressing up as a hippie"
I’ve seen it happening with the 80’s as well.
Oh no, people having fun dressing up in costumes! 😱
Ealdy Haha well that's true! They have fun, but I think the "issue" is the accuracy of the costumes
Because everyone who wore bell bottoms was a hippy lol. It wasn't a ubiquitous style of pants in the 60s & 70s or anything 😉 I've seen pants go skinny, wide, skinny, wide, skinny, wide skinny & now it's swinging wide again? Same with hem lengths of skirts. I like how now you can wear whatever you want & nobody really bats an eye. It's all Vintage inspired now ♡
Someone working on a fashion history project: "everyone knows people in the 20s, wore long pearl necklaces, and flapper dresses"
Karolina: "HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!"
Karolina, Phoenix Wright style: OBJECTION
Karolina pulling a Danganronpa 'I GOT IT!' 😂
Karolina Zebrowska - The Ultimate Fashion Historian
Bringing historical justice, one video at a time. 🙌🏻✊🏻❤️
Seriously though if only flappers knew they would be the bane of the 20s, I wonder what they would say.
Probably that we get them all wrong anyway, people don't really understand it was more about shaving their legs and pits or wearing deodorant for the first time in history than wearing a feather boa.
stella ockham imagine girls in 2100s girls in a 2010s party, all dressed up as if they were in a kanye west's video
Wasn't the trend of shaving legs and pits started by razor companies desiring to sell more razors? If so, I wouldn't interpret the event of shaving and showing it off as liberating but rather as an example of the power of advertising. One minute body hair is normal, a few businessmen say otherwise, then the next thing you know everybody is shaving xD
Not that I don't shave, it's ingrained in almost everyone's brains now that shaved legs and pits look better...
I even think so O.o
usagi18 hahaha, I wish I could see them ❤️
Sarah Kirk I'm not a make up historian, so I can tell you I'm 100% sure about this, but I knew that as long as women had skirts feet length and sleeves they didn't worry much about hairs and perspiration, you had perfumes, but not deodorants. When skirts began to shorten, razors for women followed shortly. There's a charming video on Lisa Eldridge's channel interviewing Madeline March (she's a proper make up historian!) and the very beginning they discuss 1890's vs 1920's beauty products, I remember a dainty little razor and the infamous "Odour Oh No" deodorant.
As for being ingrained into pretty much every woman's mind you're right, as much as -as a feminist - would like to at least have a choice, I really can't see myself otherwise 😫😂
Sarah Kirk well actually I shave not because it looks better, but because I hate how my pit and leg hair feels.
I laugh so hard at the beginning of this video because as a costume designer, i can't tell you how many times I have had the SAME questions asked of me! And specifically about the 20s! Well, it's actually not really a set of questions but more a telling of what they are going to wear seeking validation ("I was thinking like a long black tee shirt and I could cut off the sleeves and pin a row of that fringe stuff at the bottom?") followed by disappointment when I tell them my opinion, and finally, "Well, then you can make something for me!"
Andrew MacLaine "Yes I can make something for you, especially seeing as how you've just taken up my time in this pointless way. I charge for phone time, and for my advice. It's not free. So the least you can do now is place an order!"
Lol. Just my own processing. I'm a massage therapist, and we get similar calls & pointless expectations 😀
@@iahelcathartesaura3887People always want something for free. I stopped telling people that I can sew.
I would love for this to become a series! So informing and your whole look is beautiful :)
Expect a view spike on this December 2019 as every one seems to be having a Gatsby party
Jup, already been invited to one
I'm so irritated with them all being called Gatsby parties, already
not so much seem, they are doing those themes in December because December 5th was the end of prohibition. I know a speakeasy that throws wonderful "Repeal Day" parties.
A fapsby farty!
Time traveler
I love the REAL 1920'S every day clothes more than the stereotypical/fancy dance dresses tbh!/
DominosAndHearts omg same.
Yes same!
Your hair is kinda giving me Frida Kahlo vibes with the middle part and the headpiece
Soso Jones I could see that. I was getting Rosie the riveter
A great resource for finding clothing that represents a particular era is to look for vintage sewing pattern sites. The patterns are usually categorized by decade. The models on envelopes will also show examples of shoes and accessories as well.
Old video I know, but for any history fans, my great grandmother was thrown off the tram by the conductor because her skirts were too short and she was clearly "that type of girl", this was shortly after the first world war.
She read that the latest London fashion at the time was slightly shorter skirts that skimmed the tops of the boots, so she took her skirt up and ended up walking.
Ugh, thank you for mentioning this! People seem to think that people wore nighttime flapper fashion 24/7. It was still quite conservative despite rising hemlines.
As a child in the late 50s, I was playing in my friend's attic. I'll never forget opening an old trunk and finding a flapper dress that belonged to her mother. I thought it was amazing. It was short, straight and full of fringe. We tried it on and it came to our ankles, but I was a very short 11 years old, and the owner was a tall statuesque woman. So I could only imagine how it looked on her.
The 1920 aesthetic that people are remembering and attributing was popularized by The Ziegfeld Follies. Please take a moment to peruse Google images to see the short skirts, fringe, and feathers. You are correct in that women were not wearing these looks out on the streets, they were strictly for the theatre. But their length and design was a product of giving the dancers the ability of movement range and creating more drama on the stage. People are not "wrong" in remembering fringe and short skirts, they are just not realizing what they actually came from and instead thinking it was popular nightclub clothing. And if you image search flapper and find period pictures, there are the lengths you talk about.. mid calf MAYBE a touch higher! Though you will find The Ziegfeld girls interspersed, so I can understand the confusion
Being a trans guy in the 1920s would be either amazing or an absolute nightmare
Definitely the latter.
WHY?
Do you mean a transwoman because of the figure? Also like, definitely reallll bad, either way
"Mother, may i get one of those chest-flattening corsets?"
"Oh, so you can get a more fashionable silhouette?"
"Yea sure thing :))"
I mean it was kinda illegal sooooo
Thank you!!! I was thinking of making a video about the very same subject! It frustrates me how such a beautiful era of clothing has been reduced to cheap costume.
HUGE shout out to the high school graduating class of 1928 !!!
Sounds quite....
DEPRESSING!
Janelle Northcut I see what you did there.....
I'M CONFUSED
All so very true! Those "20's" "flapper" tiny fringe dresses make me so sad :( Real 1920's fashion was so beautiful and Halloween costume shops have distilled the decade into such an unfortunate caricature!
Exactly! And I don't even want to think what fashion designers have in store for 2020s as I'm SURE they will come up with "1920s style" clothes...
Oh no! I hadn't thought of that, at least that will be entertaining I suppose ;)
My husband’s maternal grandmother was a flapper, and never, ever wore fringe.
I hate seeing online ads for 1920s dresses worn by a model with giant tits, and long loose hair,makes my blood boil!
TheClosetHistorian I remember when American girl had sold a flapper costume for the dolls and that's basically what your description detailed. What was worse is it was also a shimmery purple colored material and was you guessed it, that part was the fringe and had a deep purple bodice. And yet they sell historical dolls...
1920s fashion is like the oversized jackets and dresses of the 2000s
Hardcore *yes*
I really enjoyed watching Downton Abbey, because the way their costumes changed from begging to the end of show. And also things how they adjusted to phone or radio. Like dowager countess said there s no way she got electricity at her house because it irritates her eyes.
Ooh, if you liked Downtown Abbey, you know what else you should watch? Upstairs, Downstairs. It also goes from like, 1900's to the end of the '20s and has the fashions, attitudes, technology change with the times (accurately!) while the characters play their stories out. There's a whole big WWI story arc and the costumes are gorgeous and...
It's basically Downton Abbey only made in the 1970s, and with way more episodes. :)
Robin Chesterfield thank you for recommendation 👍
My great-grandmother was from the 20s, my grandmother was born in 1928. My great granny was so into the 20s that she couldn't accept women in the family having long hair! Love your vids, cause I love history!
Fernanda Somenauer Garcia I am a cosmetologist and back in the late 2000's I had an elderly client who would've totally agreed with your granny! She used to complain all the time about how ugly the news anchor women all looked with their long straight hair....and couldn't they see that! Lol I really cherish the memory of all those weekly wash and set ladies I used to have. God rest there souls, they are passed now.
Your great granny and I would get along great, I hate having long hair
It was interesting to watch on Downton Abbey how they made the slower more realistic transition from the 1910's into the 1920's, though I know Englands version was somewhat different from ours.
Similar with Upstairs, Downstairs--when they first brought in electricity: GASP! When they first had a phone, _only_ the upstairs people or the butler were allowed to use it. The household's first car was a special, precious item--and they still ALSO had horses! Dresses went from the Edwardian to the Belle Epoque to more conservative wear during WWI to the 1920s withOUT fringe and tiny skirts. And then there was the episode about suffragettes, and...
I absolutely love and appreciate the history and learning of the accuracy of what they actually wore. But if you are ever invited to a "1920s themed" party you do not have to stress out about being historically accurate unless you absolutely want to. Dressing up in theme parties is just for fun. Have fun with it. Wear what makes you feel comfortable, fun, flirty and pretty. Lol
Grandma told me they got 3 outfits a year in those days. That's all, and she wasn't afraid to work. How people can say they were so wealthy in the 1920's is beyond me.
They weren't. I mean there was the huge Crush in the 1929. It is just that usually it is rich people who indicate fashion so most people just overly-generalized stuff
Also, the picture shown was Sid Charisse (dancing with Gene Kelly, in Singing in the Rain) . . . she was *famous* for her legs. So 1) they wanted to really show off one of her best assets, 2) the ballet required exceptional movement in the costume, and 3) it was designed and filmed in 1952 (costume design made for historical accuracy was *really* iffy back then). Also, I love Sid Charisse in that movie, and if you haven't seen it, stop everything and go watch it right now. She's only in the dream sequence toward the end, but really the whole movie is fantastic. One of Debbie Reynolds' earliest films that she did at 19 years old.
it’s true, she’s A-MAH-ZING! and those legs and the way she moves them - damn!
Fun fact: this video, about 1920s fashion, is exactly 19:20 minutes long...
Fitzgerald's Bernice Bobs her Hair perfectly describes what 20's women looked like. He says the trendy flapper look was a strict minority of women and the majority wouldn't cut their hair at all. The flapper movement was actually a counter cultural movement of young women rebelling against the strict conformity of the 1900s in exchange for promiscuity, partying and living it up. It was largely a French fashion weaponized by American women for liberation in fashion and life
I love this video! The 20s had such lovely clothing looks much more comfortable than what we wear now! I love 30s and 40s too actually anything up to the end of the 1960s is my jam! I would love to know more about the women who wore suits and played with gender because I feel like they were so brave and broke down so many barriers xx
oh I love masculine styles from 30s and 40s! they all look so badass whereas if I was wearing that I would end up looking like a weird uncle
Karolina Żebrowska me too I mean we think we would look fabulous but just no lol they were so brave to step out and be themselves though it amazes me x
I think the masculine style of the 40s is rather inspired by the military. And maybe not even inspired but forced, because many textiles like nylon was taken for the military-related use. And I would be much more careful with assuming women would wear certain clothes to counsiously show how brave they are. It's really just fashion and we are all affected by it but not everyone are aware of it.
True, but in 1930s it was an act of bravery to go around in a fully masculine attire, when the mainstream fashion was all about femininity. each time Marlene Dietrich did that everyone was going crazy. and Katherine Hepburn's man-like outfits were definitely not what the fashion designers had in mind for women at that time.
When talking about stars and famous people, I think it would be more about the image and style they wanted to create and be known for than showing real bravery. It wasn't really fashionable back then, was it?