Is there a way to sound the alarm without using the pull-station? Say if I wanted to set the alarm to do a fire drill at my house, could I set off the alarm just by pushing a button on the panel?
Hi Alarm guy, I also have a Fire-alarm MS-4 just like that one, I had it for about 5 years, well the problem is that i put the wrong wiring and it through a spike trying to put the battery and now I cant make it stop beeping. What can I do help!
HI Actually in addresable fire alarm loop system i want to tranfer one sonder with manual break point.Is this possible means how can i transfer please make a video for this as soon as possible....
If you use an addressable sounder you can replace it with addressable call point with same address as that of sounder. But the problem here is you should reprogram the panel or else it will show unidentified device or unknown device. If you think you don't need to program it which is no need to see which floor or office the detectors operated then you can go to the panel settings where you can find engineering options there you can find auto learn option which after which your panel takes all detector address and will be in normal condition.
I have a question, it might be really stupid. But I'm new to fire alarms... I'm thinking about getting this exact panel, I am going to have pull stations hooked to it. My pull stations only have one positive one negative not meant for series can u hook more than one wire to one zone on a panel?
To be honest, I would not get a panel yet if you are just a beginner. They can fry easily and there are certain procedures you must follow when wiring power, devices, etc. I fried one by knowingly wiring up the power with the power turned on and had to buy a new one. They also run on high voltage which can be dangerous if not careful. To answer your question, yes, you can hook up as many pull stations as you want to a zone. For this panel, as far as I know, each NAC can support up to 24 devices. But don't quote me on that. I think it is great that you are starting fire alarms, glad to hear it! But I would not get a panel quite yet. I would start off small and get bigger the more experienced you get. I am just giving you advice and precautions because I don't want you to buy a panel and pay all that money and fry or damage it. So again, I would start off with just mini systems with 9v adapters or so and then get a real panel later when you have more experienced. Just as some advice. Great questions, and I look forward to your awesome fire alarm videos! If you want to know how to wire a pull station to a notification appliance without a panel, I made a video specifically explaining and showing how to do that. Just go look for it on my channel, it should be really easy to find. Good luck!
I'm not getting one for a hobby system, I'm getting one for actual safety but... I have been researching these systems since I was a kid but.. I just got my first alarm and am not used to wiring, thats what i meant by beginner so if u have any videos that would help me learn how.... or anything please let me know. I sort of need a panel to get pull stations and smoke detectors, but I still am not very good at the wiring part, Also I have been trying to find a good video on how to make your own power supply for it but I cant figure out how but I would like to make my own DC adapter that is grounded for it's more safe for power surges and stuff. Just let me know if you know any videos that help making power adapters for them cause like u said I don't want to short out my panel :)
The adapters you can just buy online on Amazon, or any supply place like that. I would not recommend MAKING your own adapter or power supply. The wiring part is the part where if it done improperly, it can fry the device you hooked up to the panel's NAC circuit. If the power is done incorrectly, then the panel will short out. (fry). I will send you a list of videos that might help you with wiring, fire alarms in general, etc etc etc. ;)
Thanks!! I had to wait a long time for mine as well. I paid about $300 for mine. Which was kind of a rip-off because I got it for the retail price. But it was the cheapest one I could find. I got it from eBay.
I prefer to use speaker wiring on conventional fire alarm panels for demonstration because they’re cheap and easy to find everywhere compared to Honeywell Genesis wiring which might be challenging to find. In fact, I used speaker wiring to hook up my Notifier SFP-1024 FACC which has 10 zones and is conventional and got the wiring from Home Depot and Amazon
So there are two screw terminals in each circuit that require resistors. So to wire them, you just bend the resistor and put one end of the resistor in one screw terminal and the other end of it in the other screw terminal. It does not matter what end you put it into on the circuit. The only terminals in the panel that need resistors are the NAC Circuits and Zones. Nothing will happen if you don't put resistors on. But it is highly recommended for a system.
Nice! Glad those guys were able to help you out with the install! You can always contact me as well if you have any questions, I'd be glad to lend my assistance!
@@firealarmperson4774 It's not a rude comment I was just telling it like it is. Sorry if you were offended. I actually really enjoy your channel and videos.
On eBay, just like you would order anything else. Just be advised that you may get a little bit of a knock-off price for it. Meaning if you can't find a good deal on it. Then you might end up buying it for the retail price which is what I paid for mine.
i'm planning on picking one of these up my self now that I know more of what it can do!! Sure wish there were some discord channels I could join for gaining more info on this stuff...I am enjoying my newest hobby!
hi fire alarm person i am not shure if you can make a tutorial of how wire up a pannel to a pull station smoke dectectors and notification appliances so the other people can learn that
Fire alarm Vlogs Fire alarms an vlogz Lol. To be honest, I pay for pretty much everything I buy. Including fire alarm devices/devices in general. Except for the police alarms. My parents paid for those. They were Christmas gifts.
Fire alarm Vlogs Fire alarms an vlogz Nope, not exactly. I pretty much pay for all my alarms and most of my belongings in general. So I am the one that has the money to buy them for myself.
@firealarmperson I have a fire alarm system and I have a fire lite ms-5ud 3 and a p2w and a p2r and a est genesis remote strobe and a bg12 and a simplex pull station
I addressed the name of the panel in the video. Also, you should be able to tell what the panel is by the box and looking at the panel itself. But you are right; it is a Fire-Lite MS-4.
Looks like fun!! Enjoy the panel!
It is loads of fun! Sure will :)
I hope I get an ms2 for my bday :) nice vid
@@firealarmperson4774does it have a 24vdc power supply
I wish that i can afford a control panel😢
Is there a way to sound the alarm without using the pull-station? Say if I wanted to set the alarm to do a fire drill at my house, could I set off the alarm just by pushing a button on the panel?
Where did you get it?
Hi Alarm guy, I also have a Fire-alarm MS-4 just like that one, I had it for about 5 years, well the problem is that i put the wrong wiring and it through a spike trying to put the battery and now I cant make it stop beeping. What can I do help!
You should put backs or reset troubles
is it eze to set up ?
Where can I get a monitored fire alarms
Where did you get this?
Do all firelite panels only work with 110v or also 220v? Because I live in Europe and I would want to get a firelite panel
you need 120-125v
Yes, they do have a 220 to 240 V, fire lite Ms-4E
HI
Actually in addresable fire alarm loop system i want to tranfer one sonder with manual break point.Is this possible means how can i transfer please make a video for this as soon as possible....
If you use an addressable sounder you can replace it with addressable call point with same address as that of sounder. But the problem here is you should reprogram the panel or else it will show unidentified device or unknown device. If you think you don't need to program it which is no need to see which floor or office the detectors operated then you can go to the panel settings where you can find engineering options there you can find auto learn option which after which your panel takes all detector address and will be in normal condition.
Where did you get your panel
Can you use a annunciator on the ms4??
yes
I have a question, it might be really stupid. But I'm new to fire alarms... I'm thinking about getting this exact panel, I am going to have pull stations hooked to it. My pull stations only have one positive one negative not meant for series can u hook more than one wire to one zone on a panel?
To be honest, I would not get a panel yet if you are just a beginner. They can fry easily and there are certain procedures you must follow when wiring power, devices, etc. I fried one by knowingly wiring up the power with the power turned on and had to buy a new one. They also run on high voltage which can be dangerous if not careful. To answer your question, yes, you can hook up as many pull stations as you want to a zone. For this panel, as far as I know, each NAC can support up to 24 devices. But don't quote me on that. I think it is great that you are starting fire alarms, glad to hear it! But I would not get a panel quite yet. I would start off small and get bigger the more experienced you get. I am just giving you advice and precautions because I don't want you to buy a panel and pay all that money and fry or damage it. So again, I would start off with just mini systems with 9v adapters or so and then get a real panel later when you have more experienced. Just as some advice. Great questions, and I look forward to your awesome fire alarm videos! If you want to know how to wire a pull station to a notification appliance without a panel, I made a video specifically explaining and showing how to do that. Just go look for it on my channel, it should be really easy to find. Good luck!
I'm not getting one for a hobby system, I'm getting one for actual safety but... I have been researching these systems since I was a kid but.. I just got my first alarm and am not used to wiring, thats what i meant by beginner so if u have any videos that would help me learn how.... or anything please let me know. I sort of need a panel to get pull stations and smoke detectors, but I still am not very good at the wiring part, Also I have been trying to find a good video on how to make your own power supply for it but I cant figure out how but I would like to make my own DC adapter that is grounded for it's more safe for power surges and stuff. Just let me know if you know any videos that help making power adapters for them cause like u said I don't want to short out my panel :)
The adapters you can just buy online on Amazon, or any supply place like that. I would not recommend MAKING your own adapter or power supply. The wiring part is the part where if it done improperly, it can fry the device you hooked up to the panel's NAC circuit. If the power is done incorrectly, then the panel will short out. (fry). I will send you a list of videos that might help you with wiring, fire alarms in general, etc etc etc. ;)
Thank You :)
Sent it.... did you get it?
Is that speaker wire you're using?
Yes.
I tried removing the cover for the dip switches on this panel, but the screw won't come out. Is there a specific way you have to do it?
Carson Delmoe Not really, you might just have to pull harder on the black plastic cover though.
Awesome!!! have fun with the panel!! BTW i'm glad to help
Sure will :) I am glad you are willing to help me. That really means a lot!
Anytime!
Ok! I'll watch it!
On a MS-4 How would you wire a 4 wire device on on NAC? Just curious
Use both NACs.
Thank you for your videos! I use them to continue my practical education!
No problem! I’m glad you enjoy my content!
Congratulations on your new panel, I am still sadly waiting for mine, how much did you pay for that one and where did you get it???
Thanks!! I had to wait a long time for mine as well. I paid about $300 for mine. Which was kind of a rip-off because I got it for the retail price. But it was the cheapest one I could find. I got it from eBay.
Fire Alarm Person
@@firealarmperson4774 I found the same one brand new for $100
When you have the real cable red do you need to wire the same way?
ScriptingStuff yes
I prefer to use speaker wiring on conventional fire alarm panels for demonstration because they’re cheap and easy to find everywhere compared to Honeywell Genesis wiring which might be challenging to find. In fact, I used speaker wiring to hook up my Notifier SFP-1024 FACC which has 10 zones and is conventional and got the wiring from Home Depot and Amazon
I’m trying to program firelite 5024 it’s not easy for a novice like me
Nice job and I'm always glad to help!
Thanks!! I am glad you are willing to help me out!
25130
good job with the work you did
what are the resistors for and how do you wire them
So there are two screw terminals in each circuit that require resistors. So to wire them, you just bend the resistor and put one end of the resistor in one screw terminal and the other end of it in the other screw terminal. It does not matter what end you put it into on the circuit. The only terminals in the panel that need resistors are the NAC Circuits and Zones. Nothing will happen if you don't put resistors on. But it is highly recommended for a system.
Can I wire a red cable on this reply pls
Nice! Glad those guys were able to help you out with the install! You can always contact me as well if you have any questions, I'd be glad to lend my assistance!
Yes. It is nice to find an expert that cares enough to help. :)
Hi i have a question, I put the wrong wiring in the battery for my fire-alarm MS-4 and now it can' t stop beeping don't know what to please help!
@@sandraquinteros4446 sorry but your panel broke due to that
How is the power wired?
Nolan Clay 120v
Where did you get your's from? I'm getting mine from eBay!
eBay
@@firealarmperson4774 This was an old comment so I didn't expect a response lol
How much does it cost ?
victor carcamo about 400 for that panel
"That didn't really make a difference" well yea cause you only taped half of the horn you left the bottom half uncovered.
I really don’t want to hear those kinds of rude comments about my videos that I work very hard to put together.
@@firealarmperson4774 It's not a rude comment I was just telling it like it is. Sorry if you were offended. I actually really enjoy your channel and videos.
This kit costs how much dollars ?
Ali Ahmed about 505 - 510 dollars
How do you order one?
On eBay, just like you would order anything else. Just be advised that you may get a little bit of a knock-off price for it. Meaning if you can't find a good deal on it. Then you might end up buying it for the retail price which is what I paid for mine.
This is a conventional panel, and yes, I learned my lesson on the whole pricing thing like you mentioned. :)
ok
i'm planning on picking one of these up my self now that I know more of what it can do!! Sure wish there were some discord channels I could join for gaining more info on this stuff...I am enjoying my newest hobby!
im getting a BG-12 pull station i ordered one im gonna get a wheelock as for the alarm
Maybe should put into my house at SPI Texas
my ms4 doesn't come with dipswitches.
How much was it?
hey we have the same amount t of subs!lol
Big B Robinson lol
Do a video together
Savage Gamer what?
+Big B Robinson Now you have more. I subbed
Congratulations
nice i have a vista 20p fire alarm pull station
thats a security system LOL
@@SodiumInduction-hvhe doesn’t even have a real fire alarm system lol
@@GentexGuy1997 yep
Hey you need to get an Address able fire alarm system. You would enjoy learning how to program and all that. And be able to do more.
Tyler Cook I plan on getting an addressable panel/system at some point. No telling when. :/
hi fire alarm person i am not shure if you can make a tutorial of how wire up a pannel to a pull station smoke dectectors and notification appliances so the other people can learn that
nice at least this has a nicer piezo buzzer
Everytime there is a trouble on my panel, the alarm won’t turn off
spooky did you press Acknowledge?
Some panels have a button labeled "Tone Silence" instead, or sometimes you have to press acknowledge/tone silence twice.
I just swapped 10 of those with the dmp xr150. Now they live in dumpsters
:*(
I installed one inside my house and one outside, for monthly fire drills
same! (videos will be out soon)
Instead of once of month I do the drill at the beginning of the month and the test at the end so twice a month the fire alarm goes off in my house
Fire alarms freak me out sometimes not in videos
Glad to see this happen!
I am glad too. Thank you!
I work at a company that installs these, thanks
Good One!
wow good quality
I know its heavy ive replaced one
Wow, i really want a panel my i can’t afford it though
Fire alarm Vlogs Fire alarms an vlogz Lol. To be honest, I pay for pretty much everything I buy. Including fire alarm devices/devices in general. Except for the police alarms. My parents paid for those. They were Christmas gifts.
Is that why u have so much fire alarms?
Fire alarm Vlogs Fire alarms an vlogz Nope, not exactly. I pretty much pay for all my alarms and most of my belongings in general. So I am the one that has the money to buy them for myself.
Fire Alarm Person but aren’t they a waist of money if you don’t need them
I made A fire alarm control panel ‘ it is the elenco s.c 100 36 volts 11Amps.
Wha... wha? Wha? Wha? Bye MS-5! Hello MS-4!
I like fire alarm panel
i am going to save for new
I have a ms2 panel but not ms4
Also I'm making a fire alarm control panel.
@firealarmperson I have a fire alarm system and I have a fire lite ms-5ud 3 and a p2w and a p2r and a est genesis remote strobe and a bg12 and a simplex pull station
Fire-Lite MS 4 Is My Guess
I addressed the name of the panel in the video. Also, you should be able to tell what the panel is by the box and looking at the panel itself. But you are right; it is a Fire-Lite MS-4.
Fire Alarm Person .
i wish i had the red fire alarm no pull
sir Ji Hindi me video nahi bante aap
next time open it already/
Cute dogo
i have a money
Hello Fire Alarm person couple ?s
Hi! Yes?
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