Combat Sights Vs Target Sights With Tactical Hyve - Major Shooting Pros and Cons
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2022
- If you're an iron sight shooter, you probably have come across both combat sights and target sights. However, are you aware of the major pros and cons of each?
This video talks about the main advantages and disadvantages of combat sights vs target sights.
In addition to what is mentioned in the video, the actual shape of one's front sight or rear sight can have an effect, too. For example, some combat sights have rounded edges so that the sights have less chance of snagging against clothing during a concealed carry draw. There are some manufacturers who have created hybrid sights that aim to provide the best of both worlds.
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I thought there was some additional functionality with combat sights. The rear sight being a 90 degree angle to allow the slide to rack on a belt or table top.
There are. We refer to the shape in the description. This video revolves around the major difference when it comes to shooting.
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@@Shadow_Baron dude, chill. We're all here for a purpose. You were once a rookie too. No one is a pro from the start. Help, don't hinder.
@@Shadow_Baron A real sheepdog would never say something like that.
@@charliecharlie1761 Bet he's tacticool though..
I love the fact you added the Graphics in the video to explain exactly what you’re referring to. This is going to be an excellent video to show new shooters
Glad it was helpful!
Man that explained ALOT ! I appreciate the graphics
Agreed.
The graphics are excellent. Very very helpful and clear.
Finally a man who explained the difference between these two types of sights perfectly without showing partiality. Well done Sir!!
Trying to find the rear sight in CQB is a good way to get in trouble. Stop worrying about the rear sight! At 15 yards and in, raise up and look for the front sight, Hold the gun so you see the front sight on target while looking down the slide and just over the rear sight. Put the sight a little low, and squeeze the trigger. Your eyes will naturally center that front sight to the center the slide. Try it, it works. In CQB think shotgun... all you need is a bead on target. Same principle applies here.
At 10 meters you don´t need sights. Just line up the gun. I am not sure if you need sights at 15 meters to hit human size torso. So i prefer target sights on self defense situation so you can hit 25 yards human head size shots. You could need accuracy on close range too. You are not always on desert, highway or on a big street and bad guys can use cover too. Just my opinion. If you are poor shooter then you should get good pistol to make those ranged shots. Sure they cost more but are worth it. Learning to shoot is way easier with a good and good target sights or red dot.
Are you guys cops? If so, that explains the 90% miss ratio of all involved shootings "hurr durr who needs sights, just point shoot your pistol sonny, you can hit a man sized target at X yards".
@@paddypibblet846 People miss in shootings because that is what happens in gun fights. Look at in war how 90 percent of kills were from people that couldn’t even clearly see each other, killing each other with suppressive fire. That time you take to line up your target could cost you your life if you just put more shots down range. Especially considering cops have advantage in numbers, and a single bullet hitting could debilitate and end the threat. These two comments also didn’t say don’t aim and just shoot, especially the first one. They provided ways to hit targets without going grandma speed when you’re extremely close to your target. You’d also know that only aiming using the sights at close range is stupid because the bullet trajectory means your sights are only 100 percent in target at where you zeroed the sights and where they zero again as the bullet drops in its curve. Before it zeros, it hits way lower than your sights tell you, and after it zeros, it will hit higher and eventually hit lower again. This happens as the bullet enters its arch after being shot.
Used to go with trit night sights, through my training journey I've come to prefer the target sights for defensive use with a blank rear and FO front sight. Great video!
I’m interested to know what got you to make the switch. I’ve been on trit nights sights, but my latest addition came with target sights and I’m not the biggest fan of them. Are you only training in daylight conditions? Do you have a red dot co-witnessing?
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@@Mrdanielmesa Hey there,
Nobody responded. So I hope you are OK if I respond as I have answered the question for me.
So this is complex and will likely step on someones toes and irk someones mire. Think of training like a graph chart. As you learn, ideas that sounded good in the past start to not sound as good, and as you get even better might start to sound better again.
First off. Unless you are legitimate LEO or a first responder. I want to say that you should have night sights for "twilight" / "less light" conditions.
For the rest of us :
- With your night sights. Turn your light on your gun on. Do you see the sights as they are intended to be seen or do you see glow in the dark sights?
- Now consider target identity of a threat before being in a civilian shoot. Compute your own risk factor on how often you are in twilight conditions. Do you have a red dot sight also? Weigh all of this in appropriately.
Unless you are always preparing for the fight and that alone. Sure. Stick to night sights, or blacked out sights with a red dot.
As I have been shooting competition on my journey to get good. I have found that the feedback from competition sights is more precise and gives me more confidence to put the bullet into the correct circle at a given distance. If things are down and dirty, then I can still hone in my skill to shoot down and dirty from trying to get good.
I shoot competition with multiple Glocks with different sights. In the last 3 matches I found that going from gun to gun (with different sights) the POA POI was not the same under a shot timer. This is less then ideal for a variety of reasons and as a result I am going to be putting the same sight picture on all my guns except for my obvious red dot guns. I have merely reached the point where the same sight picture is going to be a benefit vs "where do I hold my gun for proper POA / POI" while shooting at matches.
Aligning the classic 3 dots night sights for me usually results in shooting WAY low or WAY high under the clock and actually slows me down if I want to go fast. I find to get closer to POA POI I need to look at the top of the sights and their alignment which makes the 3 dots even more distracting and "busy". I hope reading that was fun for you.
The only way you will likely figure out if you have the same problem is to ignore par time on traditional defense drills and push yourself to go as fast as you can to see if you have that issue. I didn't get it before or have it before, but I get it now. I used to attribute shooting high or low at my occasional competition as "a bad day". Now, its just how my eyes / mind acquires the dots fast and sends the bullet accordingly.
Big ups to this man not only giving great information and having visual examples... But he's in a desert and still able to keep his train of thought and patiently explain in the heat. 👌🏾 love these videos
This was a really helpful way for me to clearly identify which set of sights to go with for my range gun that will not be used in any defense setting. The graphics were a major help as well to enforce concepts I have read about .
So much information out there, and finally someone that took the time to go over target vs combat shooting. Thank You.
Myles has a gift for teaching.
I’ve been shooting for 13 years and never thought about this for iron sights at all. Thank you 🙏
This helped me out a lot - I just have a glock 42 and hate the stock sight - now I know combat sight is best since the 42 is EDC pocket carry self defense - I don't plan to snipe w/ 380 acp - thx again!
Here’s the takeaway: a front night sight will always be visible in all conditions. Target or fiber optics will not. Go try your fiber optic against a field of dirt. Then switch to green woods. Then go in the house well lit. Then turn the lights down. You’ll see. In certain environments red may be easier to acquire than green, or vice versa. Or you may not see them at all. But true night sights are always bright.
Buy once cry once.
Now go save up for that ACOG.
Blackout serreted rear with 2 subdued tritium vials and fiber optic front lit with tritium would be superior to night sights but for some reason isn't on the market aside from truglo TFO's but they're too busy
Wow, I have watched many videos on gun sights but this is the best one yet. Clear, precise explanations with excellent graphics. Great video!
I really never noticed which sights I had. I even went and checked my hand guns. One is target and the other is combat sights. I even tried the drill. I really did enjoyed the video, good job brother!
I have both types of sights, Truglo TFX PRO on a G19 and Dawson precision on a G17 with a 1200 lum Olight flashlight. which is my bed side table gun. When you have to defend yourself quickly, you don't even see the sights, you just point and shoot even with
the combat sights and with the precision sights and the flashlight guide, a perfect silhouette is generated that allows you to align the sights; Although as I said, if you have to shoot quickly you will only align the slide with the target and shoot.
Great video, thanks!
Awesome explanation of the difference between target and combat sights.
Thanks! This is really important information that the gun stores and peers never told me.
Good lesson on the difference of target and combat sights.... thank you...I definitely learned...
This answers my questions about iron sights. I’m grouping about 4” at 15 yards with my pdp 5” stock sights
Myles, you're very good at explaining these concepts in a no nonsense, idiot proof way. I'm a seasoned combat shooter myself, and I can still find information to take away from your videos. Keep up the good work, my friend. You're doing a great job, and I've started recommending your videos (along with others from other pros on UA-cam) to my younger soldiers coming up in the game. There are simply some things that are better explained by more eloquent folks than me. You're a great resource for that purpose. Thank you.
So as a combat shooter, do you prefer target sights or combat?
This an easy method to understand different categories of aiming for new shooters; I don't consider myself new, but some specific concepts and practices are new to me; thank you very much!
Best comment on here, I also love your humble mindset. Stay safe and take care.
Great video very well done. I have been shooting for years and you can always learn more!
This was a fantastic video. I need to think through what I was so sure of in purchasing new sights.
Thank you. I switched out my carry gun and couldn't figure out why my accuracy suffered so much. I went from target sights to combat and I can't hit crapola. This reason makes sense.
Nice video. It helps a lot to understand the difference of the sights. Now i know what im gonna use next time. Thank you bro. Keep it up.
Great video, had some doubts on my competition fiber optic sights for my beretta. Thanks brother
Hi Myles, thank you for your clear explanation on these sights.
Perfect video. Thank you it was exactly what I was looking for.
Great video... exactly what I wasn't aware of. Great presentation.
Nice discussion of the trade-offs between precision and combat sights.
Great video. I have target sights on all of my guns, as im primarily a plinker. I perfer the blacked out rear and use the slide to line up my targer for combat style shooting. One key to good combat shooting is to be able to fire without jerking and having to reaquire your target. Rapid fire drills with snapcaps mixed in help alot with keeping steady on target.
Great video! Very informative with knowledge I can use when purchasing new sights for my G19. Thanks!
Very informative and a great explanation over all.. thank you sir and keep it going 👍
Love the video needed a refresher so far hooked
Really well done video with great visuals. Thanks.
Great explanation of the options for new and intermediate shooters.
Glad it was helpful!
You always have great and helpful tips and information on your videos...thanks
Excellent explanation, as your inexpensive grip enhancements video. $1.79 a foot at hardware stores grip tape works phenomenal without expensive stippling which does wear. Thank you again for excellent informative content. Respectfully submitted.
Hey miles, I particularly like your videos because I'm a new shooter, got my carry permit about a year ago and have felt like there's such a large learning curve and guns are extremely complex. I'd like to see a video for new shooters on the AR 15, The dos and don'ts of building your own, certain things to watch out for, compatibility of parts, and basically strip the gun and explain what does what.
We'll put it in the pipeline!
Outstanding explanation - thanks for sharing 👍
I like the fiber optic front and blacked out rear. Good video
Thank you for sharing those info. Appreciate it.
Thank you for this video. I learned a lot
Truly outstanding review, Sir. Thank-You!
Excellent video and explanations. Thank you
Thank you. CZ p10c is a work of art and shoots like butter.
Another Excellent and Informative video. Thanks 🍻
Precise explanation. Thank you...❤❤
Love the video and the graphics add a great touch!
Great explanation. Thanks learn a lot.
Excellent Video. I did not know this. I am glad I stumbled onto this video.
What a very helpful video! I didn't even know that I really needed to see this until I saw it. Good job :-)
This is the best video I've ever seen on explaining sites
Great video. Very informative
Great training tool very informative thank you
Great video! Thank you!
Very helpful video, as I have explained many times to my students.
Great to hear!
Thank you for the knowledge 😊
Great work with the graphics!
Thanks Myles great video 👍🏿
Great explanation. Thanks
I have used the Truglo TFX Pro on my Glock 22 and Glock 27, really like these sights. I have used them for a long time
In 2023, I just got new Tru Glo TFX pro orange for my used Glock .45acp model 41. I'm adding Cerakote Elite Midnight(dark blue). I mostly get HD orange Trijicon style on my Glocks, M&Ps. Glock's Ameriglo 3 dot is not bad.
GREAT video man, thank you 👌🏽
Thanks for the info.. Never knew this
You covered the difference thoroughly in under 7 minutes. I liked how you used yourself as a prop for the lesson, not an approach I've seen. Might steal that. Lol
Good information. Thank you
Great video, thanks
Great video well have to use tins in my next class
Very helpful. Thanks
Excellent video!
Thank you!
Great info. Thank you.
Very good advice
Right on,good info!
Excellent presentation
Awesome video 🤘
Nice video. Accurate explanations. But it doesn't have to be either/or. First that U-notch rear provides a good visual aid for where "center" is for the front as the notch "converges" making it easier to locate center. I found that the Truglo rear, as shown works great with a narrower front. In addition, what I did was paint a phosfluorescent center dot on the rear do simulate a "figure 8" system so that I'm not using daylight for horizontal alignment, but the dot for that. With that particular rear with a center dot painted one can then use the two horizontally placed dots to get the vertical right. In fact, my replacement front sight improved my vertical point of impact as it was shorter than the Truglo front which allowed me to go to a 6 O'clock hold, not obscuring the target completely. I'm just as fast if not faster with this setup than my red dot. Just sayin'.
The one-and-only way I shoot is in well-lit ranges at paper bulls-eye targets. I have 7 pistols, all of which have at least a 5" barrel.
I recently purchased a new Anaconda. Colt departed from the original white square rear sight, and went with an all black sight instead. It is my only pistol with a black rear sight, and that is going to have to change soon. When I am focusing on the front sight, it means the rear sight is slightly out of focus. Having a white square line on the rear sight really helps with centering both horizontally and lining up vertically.
Well explained.. 🤝🏽
Nice video.. I couldn’t figure out the difference
Great video!!!
Very helpful. Thank you.
Very solid explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
Sights and people vary, but I generally get good precision from combat sights with time and training. I generally prefer the high visibility and fast target acquisition of combat sights to the sometimes difficult to acquire target sights. While I like tritium inserts, I admit their utility is questionable. Often when it’s dark, you need target identification with a light. Variables matter, but a bright light on the pistol, or even muzzle flash, may wash out the glow of the sights, leaving you with basically iron sights anyway. Thank you for the video! 😊
This was great!
Thanks for the Myles of info~
Very educational.
A target sight is usually larger and fully adjustable or adjustable for windage, the idea being to dial the sight in so the gun shoots exactly were you aim it. If its not adjustable then its a fixed "iron" sight. The original iron combat sights were small for pistols usually carried in a holster. But in more recent years sights got larger with added dots for faster target acquisition.
Great video!!! 👍
Thanks for the video man! Trying to turn my Glock 17 into a little bit better competition gun and home defense at the same time. Love your videos man
On my FNX 45 tactical it has a combat sight from Trijicon that glows like yours. I think i have a hybrid one. For a combat sight, the rear sight is very tight like target sight. But still not as tight as traditional target sights.
This channel is top notch.
Thank you
Makes sense now, I have shot and handled guns with target sights, and always hated them.. I like the old school 3 dot, sights. I don't like blacked out rear sights at all either. Just bought a gong, first one, says to shoot at least 12 yards/pistol, that's the furthest I've shot since the Indiana hero drill came out, can't remember his name, maybe Dylan something or other. I did that drill a few trips to the range, went back to 3 to 10 yards.
A company needs to come out with an actual GOOD hybrid fiberoptic / tritium sight. Only truglo & trijicon put out worthwhile models and they both have glaring negatives as well.
For what it's worth, I've had Truglo TFOs on my G19 for about 7 years now, and while they're definitely a little faded compared to ar first, they're still super bright, can seem all three dots if I roll over in the middle of the night and the gun is on the nightstand. No perfect mousetrap but those TFOs have been good to me.
good video, you can use target sights in self defence
especially from close range, sometimes you don't even have time to aim
With combat sights you can indeed shoot less accurately
I would put target sights on all my pistols
Great video thanks👍
Right on!
I've always been a big fan of Ameriglo night sights. You just never no when night sights might come in handy even if the pistol is not in your carry rotation.
thank you.
Very helpful!! Can you speak to a blacked out rear sight? Pros and cons? Thanks!