Hi there, I have a 116d n47 e81 with suspected timing issue,lined up mark on cams and fitted locking tool also fitted flywheel pin, removed clutch/flywheel and cover. My question is the fuel pump cogs mark was off by 45 degrees, but when fitted crank locktool and turned cranck 45degdrees anticlockwise the pump marks line up. Should it line up b4 or after? I have picture ,do you have a email that i can send them to you just to confirm if it correct.
Hi. If you look at on the video at 6:46 the timing mark on fuel pump is lined up with copper marker on the chain. That is how it suppose sit when camshaft locked and crank shaft positioned. Mark the front crankshaft pully with marker or tippex while the pin locked in the flywheel so you can check the position later before re assembling everything. But, if it moves a bit, it is OK.
Usually, N47 don't bent valves. But it is always a good idea to do pressure test on cylinder after camshaft carrier is removed. Use cylinder head pressure tester. Hope it helps. Sorry for the delay
Thanks for the video. My timing chain broke. Can I ask you if I can swap any n47 over from any bmw? Can I also ask if you have done any engine swaps from n47 to n57?
There are 3 types of n47 engine. The first one is n47d20a the first generation of n47 mostly fitted on bmw 2007-2010. The second one is n47d20c mostly fitted from 2010-2013 the last one is is the same code n47d20c but it is the latest n47d20c only fitted from 2013 till 2015. So you need to know which generation is yours. But yes as long as the gen is the same as yours you can get one from any series. You may need to get bare engine only as some components won't fit from series to series. The second question I never done but I belive it is doable.
You had the engine out and you did not replace the crankshaft bearings? Also the high pressure pump notch should line up with the mark when the special tool is fitted on the crankshaft and locked the crankshaft to 45deg atdc at nr1 cylinder. The bearings are also gone on these engines by this time.
Yes it is a good idea to replace the bearings on this kind of sinario, but the price will go higher than what the customer planned to spend. Regarding the mark on fuel pump, I don't know how you didn't see it but, it exactly where it should be. I am willing to learn new method or skills. Belive or not I have done more than 100 n47 engine through out. But like I said I am happy to take your input. Thanks for watching
@@carsEVsvans The customer will spend much more at the end unless get rid of the car. I see this many times that somebody replace the timing and again you have to pull the engine out to do the bearings and usually that time the crankshaft is gone also. At the end it could cost 5 times more. Its not a good idea to replace the bearings it is necessary. Regarding the timing maybe it is not visible properly on the video. If you follow the manufacturer instructions and use the timing setup tool you are ok.
Is it mandatory to take of the oilpan or no cus i need to just change the chain noting is broken
Can u do a n57 glow plug diy?
Hi there, I have a 116d n47 e81 with suspected timing issue,lined up mark on cams and fitted locking tool also fitted flywheel pin, removed clutch/flywheel and cover. My question is the fuel pump cogs mark was off by 45 degrees, but when fitted crank locktool and turned cranck 45degdrees anticlockwise the pump marks line up. Should it line up b4 or after? I have picture ,do you have a email that i can send them to you just to confirm if it correct.
Hi.
If you look at on the video at 6:46 the timing mark on fuel pump is lined up with copper marker on the chain. That is how it suppose sit when camshaft locked and crank shaft positioned. Mark the front crankshaft pully with marker or tippex while the pin locked in the flywheel so you can check the position later before re assembling everything. But, if it moves a bit, it is OK.
In your case, did you find bent valves?
Usually, N47 don't bent valves. But it is always a good idea to do pressure test on cylinder after camshaft carrier is removed.
Use cylinder head pressure tester.
Hope it helps.
Sorry for the delay
Thanks for the video. My timing chain broke.
Can I ask you if I can swap any n47 over from any bmw?
Can I also ask if you have done any engine swaps from n47 to n57?
There are 3 types of n47 engine. The first one is n47d20a the first generation of n47 mostly fitted on bmw 2007-2010. The second one is n47d20c mostly fitted from 2010-2013 the last one is is the same code n47d20c but it is the latest n47d20c only fitted from 2013 till 2015. So you need to know which generation is yours. But yes as long as the gen is the same as yours you can get one from any series. You may need to get bare engine only as some components won't fit from series to series. The second question I never done but I belive it is doable.
What mileage was on this car ?
Around 102k
Thank you for sharing the video
You had the engine out and you did not replace the crankshaft bearings? Also the high pressure pump notch should line up with the mark when the special tool is fitted on the crankshaft and locked the crankshaft to 45deg atdc at nr1 cylinder. The bearings are also gone on these engines by this time.
Yes it is a good idea to replace the bearings on this kind of sinario, but the price will go higher than what the customer planned to spend. Regarding the mark on fuel pump, I don't know how you didn't see it but, it exactly where it should be. I am willing to learn new method or skills. Belive or not I have done more than 100 n47 engine through out. But like I said I am happy to take your input.
Thanks for watching
@@carsEVsvans The customer will spend much more at the end unless get rid of the car. I see this many times that somebody replace the timing and again you have to pull the engine out to do the bearings and usually that time the crankshaft is gone also. At the end it could cost 5 times more. Its not a good idea to replace the bearings it is necessary. Regarding the timing maybe it is not visible properly on the video. If you follow the manufacturer instructions and use the timing setup tool you are ok.
What cover is that that you replaced
Timing chain cover
What’s price for labor?
Price starts from £800 and could go up to £1600.
Great video!!! What brand you use for the timing chain kit?
FAI kit
@@carsEVsvans FAI it’s not the correct kit pff… the official kit is Febi Bilstein