UA-cam can be a festering pile of bad stuff sometimes, but it's things like this -- so many of you coming out to offer thoughts and encouragement and so on -- that really makes it all worth it. Thank y'all, sincerely. This is fantastic.
The only bike that will sit nicely next to your Vespa is a Moto Guzzi V7 from Italy of course 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹. Great classic bikes with lots of grunt and character.
Look at, then buy a Moto Guzzi V7 850. Ive had my Vespa 300 GTS for 13 years now and love it. I bought the Guzzi a year ago and like the Vespa I'll probably never sell it. Great bike with that Italian je ne sais quoi. Shaft drive, easy valve maintenance, large fuel capacity, better brakes, unique motor, comfort, and style sets it apart from the bikes you've been looking at.
Old? I am 67years old. I had a Vespa 250GTV. I always wanted a Vespa. After my Team Oregon class, I fell in love with shifting and noise. The Vespa dealer sold Royal Enfield 500 classics as well. The retro, funky style scratched the same itch that the Vespa did. I loved that bike. Thumpy, Rattly, very mechanical funkiness. Never had ANY problems with it. Sold in a financial crisis. I now have another Classic 500 and I will probably never let go of it. It is too "stimulating" for a long ride. Wanted something for my 62 mile commute, bought a Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor.. Looked good, mechanically capable, smooth, capable.. but it didn't fit me. Literally. Sold it. I bought a Janus 450 It looks great, rides well but... do I trust it to get me to work? Not yet. I traded in my GTV for a 300GTS (mistake), found it very capable but not quite right. I traded it in for a Piaggio BV400. IT is a perfect commuting bike, fast, smooth, comfortable.... ordinary. I have not yet found the perfect bike. The search goes on. Love Italian stuff, love Retro... I would love to have a Moto Guzzi but there is ZERO customer/dealer support in the US. If you want an ADV bike, maybe the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 would suit your needs, I have read nothing but good stuff about it... even from Itchy Boots (whom I follow religiously)
As an owner of two Himalayans and a Classic, I would say if you want to be able to go from pavement to dirt without giving it a second thought... then go with a Himalayan. If you are stuck on pavement, then go for that beauty queen. Motorcycles are an object of desire, one of the few times you can follow your heart without regrets.
I know several people that have the Bonneville T10, and if you can find a used one that does have fuel injection. They’re always a great option and they’re highly reliable. Alternatively, you could always look at a Royal Enfield INT650. It’s kind of like the Bonneville except it has a little more character, depending on who you talk to. It’s easy to work on and modify the air fins on it serve a purpose as it is air cooled and not liquid so it’s one less thing to go wrong with it in the long run. And it’s also 2/3 the price at around $6000 new.
Have a look at the MotoGuzzi V7 (750 until ‘21 850 after). Similar thing to the Bonneville but aircooled, shaft drive, and prettier. It’s Italian but they’re simple and reliable.
Love your channel. I've had motorcycles since I was 12 years old. Currently I have seven of the damn things, including the first two I ever owned (sistership's) and the first bike I fell drop dead in love with when I was 15 (Honda S90) Ha! Have fun and keep the channel rolling......
I personally have a bonneville bobber which may be a little too much for someone who has a 12 year hiatus but you can’t go wrong with the T100. They are easy to manifest an all the triumphs I’ve had the pleasure of riding were a joy! They all also look incredible!
I have Royal Enfield 21 Himalayan, 22 Meteor, and 23 Classic 350. My wife and I LOVE them (she drives the Meteor) Himalayan seat sucks for long rides but always makes me smile. We have not had any problems even on 600 mile trips. We always take state routs/back roads instead of freeway. I agree Honda is reliable, but lacks character for me. I like Triumph, good character, handle highway easily. Sounds like Triumph will meet your goals, but those Royal Enfield always makes the journey peaceful. Good luck!
Thanks. Agreed on the Honda stuff. I'm beginning to realize how important character is to me in considering something like a motorcycle, or a watch, or whatever nice things I endlessly research...
The bonneville is the one that will give you the best riding experience. I rode a t120 black, that thing's just magical. It rides very well, pulls very hard, sounds amazing, and looks even more amazing. There are no comfort related bits, but you won't care. There's no wind protection, not that much luggage, the engine COOKS your jewels if you ride in summer traffic, etc. But trust me, you will not care. Because it's just so nice to ride. You'll love that one because it is fun. I loved it immediately. This one has the most "soul", by far. This is one of the best bikes out there if motorcycling is just a passion, and don't need it for practical reasons as well. The t120 is one of my "dream bikes", but it fits best as a second bike, to me, personally. Because I use my bike as an everything vehicle: commuting, carrying stuff, etc. RE's are the economical version. Low on power, not that great finishing touches, etc. But it is very functional, while still looking very nice. If you want transport and don't care too much about power, comfort and whatnot, RE are great. They're not uncomfortable, they just could be better. They are cheaper for a reason, so don't expect a premium bike without paying premium. But they are very good for the price, you will not go wrong with it. Their reliability is very respectable, and costs low. Not Honda level reliability, but definitely good enough. Kind of hefty, not that great handling, but if you ride "normally", you won't feel or notice ANY of this, because when riding normally, it works great. It's just that you'll reach limits fast, on this bike. If you don't ride sporty or fast, RE's are amazing. Don't know about highway riding, haven't ridden one on the highway, but it feels like it might be lacking on that particular application quite a little. It can do it, nonetheless, but don't expect any passes or long stretches. It might rattle a bit after a while, but it's normal, it is part of the bike feel. It's not too "much" of a bike, but it is a very good looking and functional one. This one is one of the best bikes for lower speed transport, while still looking good. The cb is probably the most capable of them all, all around. Doesn't excel in any environment, but can do it ALL respectably. Maybe a bit dull if you don't rev it up, but it's the bike you would ride in the hot, cold, day, night, on road, highway, off road, etc. I have one for 2 years now, and even if I rode plenty of bigger, better motorcycles, I still can't depart from this one. Because it is just so capable. It is very zippy around town, incredibly easy to ride, reliable and very long lived. It's just one of those bikes that can just go forever. It gets stupid long mileage because it sips around 3-3.4 liters of fuel per 100 km (68-78 mpg), and has a large-ish tank that lasts you for over 500 km range. It gets pretty lively when revving it up, and the engine is set up so that it can be revved for long periods of time. This is one of the reason some people say it might need a little more power, because they feel it revs a bit high at high speeds relative to it's redline, but it is set up that way: you could just ride it at 8k rpm on the highway all day and it won't complain. Oh, and the 22 suspension upgrade is quite a big step up. I rode the CB in the mountain twisties, highway, off road, through forest single tracks, solo, two up, with and without luggage, freezing cold, scorching hot, short and long rides. It's the kind of bike that sort of invites you to ride for a very long time on it. It's got good wind protection, comfy ergos, and the '22 suspension is good. The cb is also nicely designed: you got readily available connectors for whatever you want to install, easily accessible, it's got dedicated slots for USB stuff, extra buttons and whatnot, it's got a very accessible air filter, very easy to change the oil, it is designed to be easy to service it yourself. Well, except valves, while not hard to do, it is time consuming. The cb has the least "soul" out of these, but it can do anything you throw at it dependably and economically. Where some people see "dull", others see "rock solid". This bike is capable to be truly used, as a vehicle, not just a hobby. And it can do more off road than you can find on youtube, it's just about your skills (and tires, mostly tires). Trust me, I thought it's gonna be bad off road, but damn, it can go through pretty much anything, just a little slower than an enduro bike. So, in short: t120 has the most "soul" but a few niggles and drawbacks, RE is slower and heavy but economical without compromising on looks, and the CB objectively most capable all rounder of them three, but with the least "soul". If you're going to do off road or touring, get the cb. Otherwise, get the bonneville. RE if you want to keep costs low, but you'll be compromising on some things. Just my 2 cents. Good luck and ride safe!
@@itsthebugshow Congrats, man! I am sure you will enjoy it and it will bring you great experiences :) I'll check the video when it's out. Ride safe and be careful with the t120, it pulls really hard from a standstill!
I liked my Burgman from back in the day. My ex-wife made me sell it, so I did. ;( And less than a year later we chose to get a divorce, and I upgraded to the Burgman Executive. Great bike, minus eating through tires every 3,700 miles or so. I don't have it anymore, but my NC750X with DCT is even better than that. The tires last longer and it gets nearly twice the MPG.
I currently have a 300 Vespa Sei Giorni and a Triumph T100. The T100 is an awesome all-around approachable bike. It rides nice, looks great and has lots of aftermarket toyz available for it. Though not on your list, check out the Kawasaki Versys 650 LT. That is a fantastic do anything bike that comes with side cases and you can add a top case too. Sits nice and tall and can be a weekender or a tourer. I had one before my T100 and loved it. I vote for the T100 for the everyday classic and the Versys for your ADV fix.
First of all. Happy New Year. I just started subscribing to your UA-cam channel recently. As a current owner of 3 motorcycles and 1 scooter I find your videos compelling. It is nice to know that I am not the only one who is a two-wheeled enthusiast. Truthfully, I was just listening to your current video and not watching it. However, with that being said... First of all, stop watching the news. Unless it is weather related you will be better off doing other things with your time. IMO. Secondly, I would say go with the bike you really love. BUT, if it were me, I would go with the Honda CB500X with ABS. If you are planning on doing all the traveling you say you are planning, it has so many capabilities for modifications. For example, I personally would add the heated grips, a center-stand (easier for doing chain maintenance), lockable, water-proof and detachable hard saddlebags and a matching top-case, rear hugger, and a bigger and adjustable Puig windshield. I have a similar set up on my NC750X with DCT and I can go almost anywhere while getting between 67 to 74 MPG (and do so comfortably). I am not too sure about the mpg on the CB500X, but on my CBR500R I usually don't get any less than 68 MPG, so I am sure it has to be pretty comparable. Anyway, stay the course with videos and the background music. I know it will be a great year for you and your family no matter what you decide. You seem pretty well educated and I am sure you will make an educated choice.
Thank you! And thanks for the advice. On the CNN thing, I was watching the New Years Eve 'coverage,' not actual news. I kinda wish I had those two hours back though.
I'd say that it depends. I wouldn't even consider the Boneville. But long story short: If You want to travel more on side roads and really remote places you might want to pick the Himalayan. If You want to travel more like "from place to place" exploring the surroundings but without getting to deep into side-quests, then the CB500X will be fine Slightly more detail: If You want better and more mantainable highway speed, a less agrarian engine sound and just slightly worse economy I'd chose the CB500X (though the same bike, but in a different package is just coming out: the NX500 with TC and also a modern TFT display). But instead, if You want waaaaay more off-road capability with really long suspension, with a way more modern electronic package (with Google supported navi two riding modes and switchable ABS) I'd chose the Himalayan. But at the end of the day, they're both off-road capable and highway compatible, it's just that each of them excels in different aspects.
I owned a Triumph Bonneville T100 (old 865cc, carburetor) and many, many other motorcycles in my life. Now I bought a Vespa GTS Super 300. But my plan was to buy a smaller motorbike than my Kawasaki Z900RS that I still have now. So I tested Royal Enfield and was about to buy a Classic 350. It's a really great, little motorbike and if I would buy a motorbike I would like to buy the Royal Enfield. But for mow: I like the Vespa ans I will sell the Kawasaki. I don't need 2 motorbikes or a motorbike and a scooter. But everyone as he likes.
I've bought my Vespa GTS last fall, after riding around on my Honda NC750X DCT, this thing was fantastic, easy as a scooter (including storage space), the weight disappears when riding, a true motorcycle without the shifting hassle. Its plenty fast too and it has quite a fan-base as well, so maybe attract a few extra viewers with that?
I think that's the thing though. I don't want easier. I want something different than the vespa so I can mix things up. I miss riding a geared motorcycle...
I too have an NC750X with the DCT. It may be fuggly to some people (sorry for the language), but it is truly a marvel to behold and ride. Everything about it is so intuitive and I feel like it is the one motorcycle I have been riding all my life. I love the MPG on it and the storage capabilities. Anyway, ride safe and have a great new year.
I think you would be surprised with the feel, sound and soul of Himalayan. Try it first. But, I would say look into Suzuki Vstrom 650, the best all rounder ever made.
All those motorcycle options will make you very happy indeed. I'm a bit of a sucker for "classic" looking bikes and gravitate to companies with a rich interesting history of motorcycle manufacturing. I know you mentioned you don't want an Italian bike Bug but, you really should get up close and take a Moto Guzzi V7 for a ride... People who own them love them. They are incredibly simple motorcycles that any home mechanic can service. If there's anything that resembles the Vespa of motorcycles it is a Moto Guzzi V7. I only have one bike these days, a 2010 Triumph Bonneville 865 SE. Why? I love it, I've always gelled with the air/oil cooled, classic 270 degree 865cc engines (the best sounding in my opinion), Low maintenance modern 17 inch alloy wheels on my model make it a great handling bike with no inner tubed tires. If the faux carburettor's annoy you, look for a pre-2009 model, they have real carbs 🙂. I'm biased toward Triumph Bonnies but the Guzzi is worth a consideration. Not much goes wrong with them and they are easy to get on with as a daily rider. In fact you might find yourself falling in love with it. Air cooled, shaft drive, comfortable, beautiful design, and they sound great. Essentially the same bike they've been making since 1921! What's not to love?? 😊
The Moto Guzzi looks beautiful. I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a V7 in person. I love the idea of getting a pre-2009 Triumph just to have real carbs! That's hilarious and not entirely something I wouldn't do...
I would recommend you to go for the Royal Enfield Himalayan 452. The newer version is much much better. the 452 40BHP and the older one make just 24 that's a 67 % jump in power alone.
I agree with some of the other comments here. I think you would really like a Honda NC750X with the DCT. No matter what you do, make sure to test ride one before you go and buy something else, just so you can be properly informed about this bike before dismissing it. I was planning to buy a Guzzi V7 and decided to test ride a DCT NC750X just for shit and giggles… the V7 was forgotten immediately and I bought the NC. Instead of the Triumph you could look at a Guzzi V7, those are more authentic old school. And Guzzi’s have a certain something…
WOW! I was not expecting to find so many of us NC750X with DCT fans out here. But I am pleasantly surprised. I love all my Honda motorcycles and scooter and Honda Fit Sport car. (And my MX-5 RF.) Maybe Bug should consider getting the NC750X too with DCT too. It was not on his list, but are you listening Bug?
Get the Triumph T-100! Back in high school, I had a Triumph Daytona 500 that I LOVED. BTW, you're gonna get whupped around on the highway no matter what you're riding...my most recent motorcycle was a Kawasaki Vulcan 2000. It was 2000cc, 850 pounds (over a grand with me on it), would do well over 100, and out here in the desert, she got whupped all over the freeways! And just so's ya' know...yesterday I bought a 2024 Vespa GTS 300 "Classic" (in beautiful Beige Avvolgente!). I'm headed down to San Diego to finalize the paper work, etc., on 1/9. Did I mention that she's Beige Avvolgente? Thought so... Happy New Year, bug.! BTW -- I'll turn 70 this year...hell yes, I wanted another scoot!
That's absolutely FANTASTIC to hear! Would love to see pics of it when you get it. That beige color is really something special. I just love it when I hear about folks getting a new Vespa. Makes my fuel-injected heart happy.
@@itsthebugshow Jump over to the MV Group/General Discussion/Happy New Vespa Year. That's my post with a photo announcing Anita O'Day's imminent arrival. And thanks, bug. You know I dig your channel.
my suggestion would be wait for the new NX500 from Honda or get a Versys 650 LT... you can chuck on some 80/20 tires onto the Versys and its a quasi adv bike with built-in and keyed luggage on the sides with plenty of space to tie things to. It will get you there in decent time, efficiently and will make your aging bones happy you picked it... I personally want an NX500.
Umm, have you considered a maxi scooter? Suzuki Burgman 650, Yamaha Tmax, or my personal daily driver: BMW C650gt. Top speed nearly 120mph, handles great, can cruise at 90 all day…or so I’ve heard. Throw in heated grips, heated seat, and under seat storage…best of both worlds. That being said, I’ve been looking at adv’s lately too…
I hadn't actually considered a maxi, no. I did at one point have a thing for the Honda ADV scooter. I'd still love to try one, and honestly, I'd probably love it.
Oh, after a year with a Vespa 946 (used), still love it & have it, but wanted more power & such, looked at options... But ended up with a Piaggio BV400. Love it!! Plenty of oomph & very comfy seat. But if I were to learn to shift for a motorcycle, it'd be a Moto Guzzi!
Triumph has power is a great suburbs to the city commuter. I'm in Canada and I'm riding a BMW R9T (previously I had a vintage Triump/BMW flying brick and then a KLR that I rode to Nashville on) and really I'm most concentrated on a bike that can do 350+ KM on a tank that is comfortable and looks cool so if the RE or H CB can do that then I would pick one of those.
@@itsthebugshow It’s a very fun bike. I have the Pure version and have added an Aeroflow windscreen. Even with the 1200cc motor I can get 350km highway (with reserve). The very best feature on the bike that I will never buy a motorcycle unless it has it is traction control (BMWs is called Automatic Stability Control) and it’s wonderful.
I think you know what bike you need in your life, there is plenty of time to be sensible when you get really old. Having said that, as a potential alternative to the T100, I really like the look of the new 400cc machines and they seem to be excellent value.
I hear you about wanting a motorcycle to go longer distances and a little faster. I’ve only had my Vespa SuperTech since late Oct with now nearly 700 mi on it, I really want to go places that is impractical for a Vespa to travel - especially here in Texas where everybody drives mach 5 with their hair on fire. But I want the Honda Goldwing. That ain’t ever happening so I will just have to be content with my Vespa.
@@itsthebugshow LOL If I could I would. I long for the days of the 20ft long Lincoln Continental where you could run over a Volkswagen and never feel it.
54 HP is nice if you actually have somebody else with you or some package; that's where the Royal Enfield Himalayan s*cks imo, at least on the streets. The mentioned Honda has the benefits of the Royal Enfield, is though better on the street and easier "good to ride"; keep in mind that the Royal has one cylinder. That's great off road and I really like it but I'd hate it on longer road trips tbh. The Triumph is, if you don't wanna go "off road off road" - like, idk, I mean like trails and stuff because so normal not paved roads, I also tackle with a Honda CX500 from 1980 and I'm fine, you just have to take it maybe slower then or put other tires on it - the best machine though; it has "character" yet still the comfort of the Honda. In general though are there also other Bikes like the Boneville or if you already say you wanna deal with rusty bolts, you can also look in some older machines. The thing is, it depends actually on what you really wanna do. If you primarly go on roads (paved or not), you'll be happier with a little bit more performance and 2+ Cylinders. If you wanna go off road, but without / with not much package, then the Himalayan.
You've probably already looked at it, but to throw another bike into the mix - the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650. It's very similar to the Bonneville (being based on Royal Enfield's old Interceptor from the 60s), has ABS and EFI, but without the fake carb. Either way, Royal Enfield build quality and reliability has improved significantly with their new models from 2018 and onward. I wouldn't have any concerns about owning one in terms of reliability.
I love nonsensical cross-shops like this. I currently have a Himalayan, I'm considering swapping for a Kawasaki W800, Honda NC750, Enfield Classic 350 or a Bonneville. Essentially four bikes from different categories but I'd basically ride all of them the same way! I would advise against the Himalayan for your planned use case though, one of the 650s would be more suitable.
Rusty Bolts -I used to wrestle under that name. anyway - To me, those retro bikes are what a motorcycle looks like. I like Triumphs but - check out the kawasaki w650 and w800. All the Royal Enfields from 350 to 650 Super Meteor seem nice. on UA-cam there's an aussie called Waro who has your Vespa and Royal Enfield 350 - he says the Vespa is faster. And speaking of R.E. Himalayans, there's on youtube - 'Scooter in the Sticks' from Pa. who has one and does vids on it and loves it. (coincidentally, he too, has a Vespa 250). a freyed knot! haha just got it.
Funny, I had a similar joke ready to go. Something about Rusty Bolts being my porn name, but I get enough flack as it is. :) @ScooterintheSticks is a great guy. Love his channel. I actually reached out to him to pick his brain on this and he was nice enough to write me a long response back.
Im guessing the Vespa is too chill for you? No need to use a clutch. I get it . I really like ADVs and dual sports, and the fact you can go on or off street . I looked at alot of them before getting my Vespa. Kawasaki Versys 650 is a great adv. Hondas CBR 300 is pretty cool too.
No, I love my Vespa. Dearly. I see them as two pretty different things. I guess I'd describe the Vespa as chill, and I think that's what I love about it. In addition, I'd also like to have something that is less chill, to do different things. The Versys is pretty sweet. I was considering one but it was way too far away for me.
Hey bug, Happy New Year! From your list, I would exclude the RE Himalayan. Simply, it is too heavy, too underpowered and too ugly, no offence. Unless you want to go with the 2024 model, but I am not sure if that one is even available in the Americas, yet. If you really want to ride long distances on rough roads better go with a 300L Rally like Noraly. Now, between CB500X and T100 it would be a tough call. Those are beautiful machines but very different. I owned a T100 in the past and I own a CB500X now. It all depends on your use cases and which one raises your heartbeat more when you look at them in the garage. If you really want a do-it-all, super easy to ride and maintain, the friendliest-bike-award kind of a bike, go for CB500X. My only suggestion would be a 2022+ model. But, if you want to ride in style and look like a badass then T100 all day and everyday. Any year 2009+ would be a good choice and my choice would be 2021+. And for the end I just want to make one suggestion, that bike was already mentioned here but I will repeat it, look at Moto Guzzi V7 850, that is model 2021+. I think, if you love T100 then you would love V7 too because that machine is simply an italian masterpiece like your GTS (in bianco innocente).😁
Well, I have the three motorcycles categories in my garage that you're after -- 2022 Himalayan, 2006 Vespa GTS 250, 2001 Kawasaki W650, and a fourth -- a 2005 Vespa ET4. The W650 is comparable to the Triumph Bonneville you're lusting for. I test rode a couple and liked them but the weight was a bit heavier than I liked. But you're a lot younger than I am so it may not be an issue for you. The Himalayan is sort of in a glass by itself. I don't really find it comparable to much of anything aside from a farm tractor. The brand new 452 Himalayan would be more like the KTM390 Adventure or that Honda you speak of. All that aside. You'll figure out what you want. But I wanted to say I really enjoy listening to your comments and your voice presentation. I would watch the cat reviews. And Father Bug. I find the same desire to change up my channel. The only apparent avenue for me as I approach age 70 is riding for old farts. Important questions like, "Are you a riding coot, codger, or curmudgeon?" And amplified by whether an old rider is a creep with assholish tendencies or an asshole with creepish tendencies. Other than that I fear I have no options. Great video as always. Good luck with your adventures in finding a motorcycle!
Again, thank you. When I started this channel, I had this funny idea in the back of my mind that you'd hate it (Been watching your channel for some time now)... And that bugged me. I'm thrilled that you watch. You are one of the best out there. As for motorcycles... It's quite possible I found what I was looking for and if things work out, this is gonna be one heck of a video. It's 4 1/2 hours away! In 45 degree weather on the highway, I just can't imagine this is gonna be good. Stay tuned!!!
@@itsthebugshow I envy your sense of humor. Probably because my own is non-existent and my taste in humor is questionable. Aside from yours of course. My tastes run more towards Jackass's "Bad Grandpa" or the "Trailer Park Boys."
I smell some test ride videos coming up... i got a 24 year old Yamaha XJR, its fun and has plenty of character, tries to kill me on my off days. I got a Honda ST 1300, its nice and comfortable and its good for the longer rides. It is good for 2up. You want longer rides, so you need luggage options. Which bike is best for that, i think the Honda.
It really depends all of your choosen bikes are different. The now old Model Himalayan has for it´s low HP a lot of Torques at low End wich makes her capable Offroad and an pretty low Top Speed at around 120kpH/75mpH. Depending on your weight the Seat can suck at long Range butoverall it´s reliable . Not as good as Honda but better than Triumph Bonnies or any KTM. You would be better off with the New one if you search an Allrounder and even RE´s are reliable the new has to prove her self first or alternative the Itchy Boots way CRF300Rally. CB500X reliable yes, more HP than the RE yes. Faster on Road as the RE yes but with her high weight Mediocore Travel Bike but combined with her low Groundclearence only Mediocore Offroad as well. Even an rebuilded CB125F would be an better Offroad Bike. Classic Bonnie look Nice and Classic but an to high price for what it is and pure rational you would be better off with an Suzuki SV, Yamaha XSR, CL500, CB650R CB1000R or the upcoming Honda Rebel 1100. And Bonnies can be bitches in reliability. Don´t missunderstood the most are reliable but the Hand Full of Bitches makes them less reliable than Honda and Royal Enfield So now you have the Choice something reliable and capable Offroad the Himalayan, Best Allrounder with good reliability the NX or something good looking classic and retro wich can be an bitch and you want something overpriced classic and the least reliable than take the Bonnie. And to bring some other candidates Aprillia Tuareg 660 if you want to stay with Vespa, Triumph Tiger 660, Honda Transalp 750, Honda NX500 wich would be a small improvement but is an improvement to the CB500X, boring to drive Tenere 700 and V-Strom 650 & 800. All more reliable than an Bonnie, Better Onroad than an Himalayan and Better Allrounder that are not to heavy as an CB500X and in case of the NX500 even New cheaper than an good used Bonnie. If you really want Itchy Boots Style than even CRF300Rally. If you wan´t an personal Project an build up CRF300 and if you don´t bother to travel slow on backroads but reliable and dirt cheap with some offroad capabilities an build up 2021-today CB125F but that is so special that i don´t think that this is something for you or even worth to import one into the USA or Canada because official it´s not available but can be an nice secondary project for the channel 1000 cc + Variants or the Queen of the Desert Africa Twin nope to heavy because the Time will come where you have to lift them alone from the Ground and that is even cancer with the lighter ones . KTM/Husqvarna also out of the way not reliable enough and the only good one the 450 Rally Replica is not what you are looking for . BMW overhyped GS are also out of question exept you are looking for something like that with a lot of toys but nothing else to offer
Why not both ? Get a Royal Enfield INT or Conti GT (Conti has won my heart, but INT has won my spine. So INT was my decision) those are cheap and reliable. Plus the 2023 model year removed most of the issues that I did not like on the model. And added cast wheels. Thats a plus on one side (less weight and finally tubeless tires) but a big negative on the retro aspect of the bike. A major plus is that accessories for RE cost 3 times less for an INT650 then for my Tiger 850 Sport. And I am in Europe, not India. And some middle weight 700-900cc adventure bike. They all are disgustingly ugly to my taste (maybe the Moto Guzzi V85 TT is better, but you will need to get two. One to use when the other is broken and waits for parts for the next 5 months :D ). But the comfort levels one these kind of bikes are very good. Or get even more money and take a look at the Triumph 1200 scrambler line up. The one with upgraded forks and suspension. Looks cool, can go off road a bit, has plenty of tech. I could not justify one only for its lack of space for a passenger (im fat, and my hippo ass takes most of the seat).
Screw that Himalayan. It's too underpowered for U.S. freeways. Replace that option with a KTM 390 adventure and now you have a proper list. Where you live I would go with the Bonneville t120. "Easy to maintain". Moto Guzzi v7. I know it's Italian but it's air cooled and valve adjustments are easy.
Aw heck go all out and get a Tamarit. 🤪 Joking aside you're not likely to be sad with any of those, so i guess whichever is comfiest for you to be on/operating. I know, cop-out. Hashtag deal with it. And such. 😘
@@armedferret I know, right? It's the black version, and it's got 9000 miles on it. I dont know if the planets are aligning or satan is laughing at me...
Riding when you are 70....doing stupid stuff??? I resemble that remark!!!!!! I've went from scooter all the way up to Gold Wings and all the way back down to scooters. I just got rid of my GTS 300.........and bought another Primavera. 2 Vespas. I'm not watching your channel for the bikes any how.....I watch it for you weird humor.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's good, because if you are watching it for the bikes you'll be very sorely misinformed about just about every aspect of them. Except for the buttons. They're terrible and that's actual fact. Everything else I say is just made up.
I've spun off a motorcycle-only channel! Check it out: www.youtube.com/@bugmotochannel
UA-cam can be a festering pile of bad stuff sometimes, but it's things like this -- so many of you coming out to offer thoughts and encouragement and so on -- that really makes it all worth it. Thank y'all, sincerely. This is fantastic.
The only bike that will sit nicely next to your Vespa is a Moto Guzzi V7 from Italy of course 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹. Great classic bikes with lots of grunt and character.
Look at, then buy a Moto Guzzi V7 850. Ive had my Vespa 300 GTS for 13 years now and love it. I bought the Guzzi a year ago and like the Vespa I'll probably never sell it. Great bike with that Italian je ne sais quoi. Shaft drive, easy valve maintenance, large fuel capacity, better brakes, unique motor, comfort, and style sets it apart from the bikes you've been looking at.
Old? I am 67years old. I had a Vespa 250GTV. I always wanted a Vespa. After my Team Oregon class, I fell in love with shifting and noise. The Vespa dealer sold Royal Enfield 500 classics as well. The retro, funky style scratched the same itch that the Vespa did. I loved that bike. Thumpy, Rattly, very mechanical funkiness. Never had ANY problems with it. Sold in a financial crisis. I now have another Classic 500 and I will probably never let go of it. It is too "stimulating" for a long ride. Wanted something for my 62 mile commute, bought a Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor.. Looked good, mechanically capable, smooth, capable.. but it didn't fit me. Literally. Sold it. I bought a Janus 450 It looks great, rides well but... do I trust it to get me to work? Not yet. I traded in my GTV for a 300GTS (mistake), found it very capable but not quite right. I traded it in for a Piaggio BV400. IT is a perfect commuting bike, fast, smooth, comfortable.... ordinary. I have not yet found the perfect bike. The search goes on. Love Italian stuff, love Retro... I would love to have a Moto Guzzi but there is ZERO customer/dealer support in the US. If you want an ADV bike, maybe the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 would suit your needs, I have read nothing but good stuff about it... even from Itchy Boots (whom I follow religiously)
As an owner of two Himalayans and a Classic, I would say if you want to be able to go from pavement to dirt without giving it a second thought... then go with a Himalayan. If you are stuck on pavement, then go for that beauty queen. Motorcycles are an object of desire, one of the few times you can follow your heart without regrets.
...one of the few times you can follow your heart without regrets... I like that a lot.
I know several people that have the Bonneville T10, and if you can find a used one that does have fuel injection. They’re always a great option and they’re highly reliable. Alternatively, you could always look at a Royal Enfield INT650. It’s kind of like the Bonneville except it has a little more character, depending on who you talk to. It’s easy to work on and modify the air fins on it serve a purpose as it is air cooled and not liquid so it’s one less thing to go wrong with it in the long run. And it’s also 2/3 the price at around $6000 new.
Have a look at the MotoGuzzi V7 (750 until ‘21 850 after). Similar thing to the Bonneville but aircooled, shaft drive, and prettier. It’s Italian but they’re simple and reliable.
Love your channel. I've had motorcycles since I was 12 years old. Currently I have seven of the damn things, including the first two I ever owned (sistership's) and the first bike I fell drop dead in love with when I was 15 (Honda S90) Ha! Have fun and keep the channel rolling......
I did it! Watch the next video to see what I chose and my epic journey home...
I personally have a bonneville bobber which may be a little too much for someone who has a 12 year hiatus but you can’t go wrong with the T100. They are easy to manifest an all the triumphs I’ve had the pleasure of riding were a joy! They all also look incredible!
I have Royal Enfield 21 Himalayan, 22 Meteor, and 23 Classic 350. My wife and I LOVE them (she drives the Meteor) Himalayan seat sucks for long rides but always makes me smile. We have not had any problems even on 600 mile trips. We always take state routs/back roads instead of freeway. I agree Honda is reliable, but lacks character for me. I like Triumph, good character, handle highway easily. Sounds like Triumph will meet your goals, but those Royal Enfield always makes the journey peaceful. Good luck!
Thanks. Agreed on the Honda stuff. I'm beginning to realize how important character is to me in considering something like a motorcycle, or a watch, or whatever nice things I endlessly research...
Get a royal enfield interceptor good price, reliable and beautiful. Had it 2 years no problem and more than 14000 miles of smiles 😊
Get a Honda SCL500.
You are going to love it.
More than enough power and a trouble-free, great all around good-looking bike.
The bonneville is the one that will give you the best riding experience. I rode a t120 black, that thing's just magical. It rides very well, pulls very hard, sounds amazing, and looks even more amazing. There are no comfort related bits, but you won't care. There's no wind protection, not that much luggage, the engine COOKS your jewels if you ride in summer traffic, etc. But trust me, you will not care. Because it's just so nice to ride. You'll love that one because it is fun. I loved it immediately. This one has the most "soul", by far. This is one of the best bikes out there if motorcycling is just a passion, and don't need it for practical reasons as well.
The t120 is one of my "dream bikes", but it fits best as a second bike, to me, personally. Because I use my bike as an everything vehicle: commuting, carrying stuff, etc.
RE's are the economical version. Low on power, not that great finishing touches, etc. But it is very functional, while still looking very nice. If you want transport and don't care too much about power, comfort and whatnot, RE are great. They're not uncomfortable, they just could be better. They are cheaper for a reason, so don't expect a premium bike without paying premium. But they are very good for the price, you will not go wrong with it. Their reliability is very respectable, and costs low. Not Honda level reliability, but definitely good enough. Kind of hefty, not that great handling, but if you ride "normally", you won't feel or notice ANY of this, because when riding normally, it works great. It's just that you'll reach limits fast, on this bike. If you don't ride sporty or fast, RE's are amazing. Don't know about highway riding, haven't ridden one on the highway, but it feels like it might be lacking on that particular application quite a little. It can do it, nonetheless, but don't expect any passes or long stretches. It might rattle a bit after a while, but it's normal, it is part of the bike feel. It's not too "much" of a bike, but it is a very good looking and functional one. This one is one of the best bikes for lower speed transport, while still looking good.
The cb is probably the most capable of them all, all around. Doesn't excel in any environment, but can do it ALL respectably. Maybe a bit dull if you don't rev it up, but it's the bike you would ride in the hot, cold, day, night, on road, highway, off road, etc. I have one for 2 years now, and even if I rode plenty of bigger, better motorcycles, I still can't depart from this one. Because it is just so capable. It is very zippy around town, incredibly easy to ride, reliable and very long lived. It's just one of those bikes that can just go forever. It gets stupid long mileage because it sips around 3-3.4 liters of fuel per 100 km (68-78 mpg), and has a large-ish tank that lasts you for over 500 km range. It gets pretty lively when revving it up, and the engine is set up so that it can be revved for long periods of time. This is one of the reason some people say it might need a little more power, because they feel it revs a bit high at high speeds relative to it's redline, but it is set up that way: you could just ride it at 8k rpm on the highway all day and it won't complain. Oh, and the 22 suspension upgrade is quite a big step up.
I rode the CB in the mountain twisties, highway, off road, through forest single tracks, solo, two up, with and without luggage, freezing cold, scorching hot, short and long rides. It's the kind of bike that sort of invites you to ride for a very long time on it. It's got good wind protection, comfy ergos, and the '22 suspension is good.
The cb is also nicely designed: you got readily available connectors for whatever you want to install, easily accessible, it's got dedicated slots for USB stuff, extra buttons and whatnot, it's got a very accessible air filter, very easy to change the oil, it is designed to be easy to service it yourself. Well, except valves, while not hard to do, it is time consuming.
The cb has the least "soul" out of these, but it can do anything you throw at it dependably and economically. Where some people see "dull", others see "rock solid". This bike is capable to be truly used, as a vehicle, not just a hobby. And it can do more off road than you can find on youtube, it's just about your skills (and tires, mostly tires). Trust me, I thought it's gonna be bad off road, but damn, it can go through pretty much anything, just a little slower than an enduro bike.
So, in short: t120 has the most "soul" but a few niggles and drawbacks, RE is slower and heavy but economical without compromising on looks, and the CB objectively most capable all rounder of them three, but with the least "soul".
If you're going to do off road or touring, get the cb. Otherwise, get the bonneville. RE if you want to keep costs low, but you'll be compromising on some things.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck and ride safe!
Guess what?!?!? Check out Sunday’s video when it comes out… Spoiler alert, The T120 is very nice… :)
@@itsthebugshow
Congrats, man! I am sure you will enjoy it and it will bring you great experiences :)
I'll check the video when it's out.
Ride safe and be careful with the t120, it pulls really hard from a standstill!
I have a 23 CB500X, it’s a great bike, love it to bits. But I would go for the Triumph. Such a beautiful machine.
Check out the next video on Sunday. :)
I have always enjoyed having a motorcycle and a scooter at the same time. I currently have a couple of Suzuki bikes. A Burgman 400 and a TU250x
I liked my Burgman from back in the day. My ex-wife made me sell it, so I did. ;( And less than a year later we chose to get a divorce, and I upgraded to the Burgman Executive. Great bike, minus eating through tires every 3,700 miles or so. I don't have it anymore, but my NC750X with DCT is even better than that. The tires last longer and it gets nearly twice the MPG.
Best upgrade ever, going from an ex-wife to a Burgman Executive! Nice!
It taught me a lot in life and was the most valuable lesson I have ever learned.
I currently have a 300 Vespa Sei Giorni and a Triumph T100. The T100 is an awesome all-around approachable bike. It rides nice, looks great and has lots of aftermarket toyz available for it. Though not on your list, check out the Kawasaki Versys 650 LT. That is a fantastic do anything bike that comes with side cases and you can add a top case too. Sits nice and tall and can be a weekender or a tourer. I had one before my T100 and loved it. I vote for the T100 for the everyday classic and the Versys for your ADV fix.
Exactly what he said !
First of all. Happy New Year. I just started subscribing to your UA-cam channel recently. As a current owner of 3 motorcycles and 1 scooter I find your videos compelling. It is nice to know that I am not the only one who is a two-wheeled enthusiast. Truthfully, I was just listening to your current video and not watching it. However, with that being said... First of all, stop watching the news. Unless it is weather related you will be better off doing other things with your time. IMO. Secondly, I would say go with the bike you really love. BUT, if it were me, I would go with the Honda CB500X with ABS. If you are planning on doing all the traveling you say you are planning, it has so many capabilities for modifications. For example, I personally would add the heated grips, a center-stand (easier for doing chain maintenance), lockable, water-proof and detachable hard saddlebags and a matching top-case, rear hugger, and a bigger and adjustable Puig windshield. I have a similar set up on my NC750X with DCT and I can go almost anywhere while getting between 67 to 74 MPG (and do so comfortably). I am not too sure about the mpg on the CB500X, but on my CBR500R I usually don't get any less than 68 MPG, so I am sure it has to be pretty comparable. Anyway, stay the course with videos and the background music. I know it will be a great year for you and your family no matter what you decide. You seem pretty well educated and I am sure you will make an educated choice.
Thank you! And thanks for the advice.
On the CNN thing, I was watching the New Years Eve 'coverage,' not actual news. I kinda wish I had those two hours back though.
I'd say that it depends. I wouldn't even consider the Boneville.
But long story short: If You want to travel more on side roads and really remote places you might want to pick the Himalayan. If You want to travel more like "from place to place" exploring the surroundings but without getting to deep into side-quests, then the CB500X will be fine
Slightly more detail: If You want better and more mantainable highway speed, a less agrarian engine sound and just slightly worse economy I'd chose the CB500X (though the same bike, but in a different package is just coming out: the NX500 with TC and also a modern TFT display). But instead, if You want waaaaay more off-road capability with really long suspension, with a way more modern electronic package (with Google supported navi two riding modes and switchable ABS) I'd chose the Himalayan. But at the end of the day, they're both off-road capable and highway compatible, it's just that each of them excels in different aspects.
I owned a Triumph Bonneville T100 (old 865cc, carburetor) and many, many other motorcycles in my life. Now I bought a Vespa GTS Super 300. But my plan was to buy a smaller motorbike than my Kawasaki Z900RS that I still have now. So I tested Royal Enfield and was about to buy a Classic 350. It's a really great, little motorbike and if I would buy a motorbike I would like to buy the Royal Enfield. But for mow: I like the Vespa ans I will sell the Kawasaki. I don't need 2 motorbikes or a motorbike and a scooter. But everyone as he likes.
I've bought my Vespa GTS last fall, after riding around on my Honda NC750X DCT, this thing was fantastic, easy as a scooter (including storage space), the weight disappears when riding, a true motorcycle without the shifting hassle. Its plenty fast too and it has quite a fan-base as well, so maybe attract a few extra viewers with that?
I think that's the thing though. I don't want easier. I want something different than the vespa so I can mix things up. I miss riding a geared motorcycle...
I too have an NC750X with the DCT. It may be fuggly to some people (sorry for the language), but it is truly a marvel to behold and ride. Everything about it is so intuitive and I feel like it is the one motorcycle I have been riding all my life. I love the MPG on it and the storage capabilities. Anyway, ride safe and have a great new year.
I think you would be surprised with the feel, sound and soul of Himalayan.
Try it first.
But, I would say look into Suzuki Vstrom 650, the best all rounder ever made.
Hi! I have a Vespa GTS300 2023 and a Triumph Bonneville Speedmaster 2024! fabulous combo!!!
All those motorcycle options will make you very happy indeed. I'm a bit of a sucker for "classic" looking bikes and gravitate to companies with a rich interesting history of motorcycle manufacturing. I know you mentioned you don't want an Italian bike Bug but, you really should get up close and take a Moto Guzzi V7 for a ride... People who own them love them. They are incredibly simple motorcycles that any home mechanic can service. If there's anything that resembles the Vespa of motorcycles it is a Moto Guzzi V7. I only have one bike these days, a 2010 Triumph Bonneville 865 SE. Why? I love it, I've always gelled with the air/oil cooled, classic 270 degree 865cc engines (the best sounding in my opinion), Low maintenance modern 17 inch alloy wheels on my model make it a great handling bike with no inner tubed tires. If the faux carburettor's annoy you, look for a pre-2009 model, they have real carbs 🙂. I'm biased toward Triumph Bonnies but the Guzzi is worth a consideration. Not much goes wrong with them and they are easy to get on with as a daily rider. In fact you might find yourself falling in love with it. Air cooled, shaft drive, comfortable, beautiful design, and they sound great. Essentially the same bike they've been making since 1921! What's not to love?? 😊
The Moto Guzzi looks beautiful. I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a V7 in person.
I love the idea of getting a pre-2009 Triumph just to have real carbs! That's hilarious and not entirely something I wouldn't do...
Consider a Suzuki SV650. Perfect midsize motorcycle and Japanese reliability. Good luck on your search.
That's a good call and a bad omission on my part. I loved my Suz GS500E so much.
I would recommend you to go for the Royal Enfield Himalayan 452. The newer version is much much better. the 452 40BHP and the older one make just 24 that's a 67 % jump in power alone.
I agree with some of the other comments here. I think you would really like a Honda NC750X with the DCT. No matter what you do, make sure to test ride one before you go and buy something else, just so you can be properly informed about this bike before dismissing it. I was planning to buy a Guzzi V7 and decided to test ride a DCT NC750X just for shit and giggles… the V7 was forgotten immediately and I bought the NC. Instead of the Triumph you could look at a Guzzi V7, those are more authentic old school. And Guzzi’s have a certain something…
That Guzzi. It' sweet. Hadn't really considered that one. Uhg.
WOW! I was not expecting to find so many of us NC750X with DCT fans out here. But I am pleasantly surprised. I love all my Honda motorcycles and scooter and Honda Fit Sport car. (And my MX-5 RF.) Maybe Bug should consider getting the NC750X too with DCT too. It was not on his list, but are you listening Bug?
Get the Triumph T-100! Back in high school, I had a Triumph Daytona 500 that I LOVED. BTW, you're gonna get whupped around on the highway no matter what you're riding...my most recent motorcycle was a Kawasaki Vulcan 2000. It was 2000cc, 850 pounds (over a grand with me on it), would do well over 100, and out here in the desert, she got whupped all over the freeways! And just so's ya' know...yesterday I bought a 2024 Vespa GTS 300 "Classic" (in beautiful Beige Avvolgente!). I'm headed down to San Diego to finalize the paper work, etc., on 1/9. Did I mention that she's Beige Avvolgente? Thought so... Happy New Year, bug.! BTW -- I'll turn 70 this year...hell yes, I wanted another scoot!
That's absolutely FANTASTIC to hear! Would love to see pics of it when you get it. That beige color is really something special.
I just love it when I hear about folks getting a new Vespa. Makes my fuel-injected heart happy.
@@itsthebugshow Jump over to the MV Group/General Discussion/Happy New Vespa Year. That's my post with a photo announcing Anita O'Day's imminent arrival. And thanks, bug. You know I dig your channel.
@@victorhawkins3461 That's such a cool story. Makes me kinda weepy in a good way. I love it!
my suggestion would be wait for the new NX500 from Honda or get a Versys 650 LT... you can chuck on some 80/20 tires onto the Versys and its a quasi adv bike with built-in and keyed luggage on the sides with plenty of space to tie things to. It will get you there in decent time, efficiently and will make your aging bones happy you picked it... I personally want an NX500.
Umm, have you considered a maxi scooter? Suzuki Burgman 650, Yamaha Tmax, or my personal daily driver: BMW C650gt. Top speed nearly 120mph, handles great, can cruise at 90 all day…or so I’ve heard. Throw in heated grips, heated seat, and under seat storage…best of both worlds. That being said, I’ve been looking at adv’s lately too…
I hadn't actually considered a maxi, no. I did at one point have a thing for the Honda ADV scooter. I'd still love to try one, and honestly, I'd probably love it.
Oh, after a year with a Vespa 946 (used), still love it & have it, but wanted more power & such, looked at options... But ended up with a Piaggio BV400. Love it!! Plenty of oomph & very comfy seat. But if I were to learn to shift for a motorcycle, it'd be a Moto Guzzi!
The Honda is probably the best bike. However, I too love Italian. Have you considered a Moto Guzzi.
No but I'm starting to think I should...
Triumph has power is a great suburbs to the city commuter. I'm in Canada and I'm riding a BMW R9T (previously I had a vintage Triump/BMW flying brick and then a KLR that I rode to Nashville on) and really I'm most concentrated on a bike that can do 350+ KM on a tank that is comfortable and looks cool so if the RE or H CB can do that then I would pick one of those.
Oh man the R9T looks so sweet. Is it a blast to ride?
@@itsthebugshow It’s a very fun bike. I have the Pure version and have added an Aeroflow windscreen. Even with the 1200cc motor I can get 350km highway (with reserve). The very best feature on the bike that I will never buy a motorcycle unless it has it is traction control (BMWs is called Automatic Stability Control) and it’s wonderful.
I think you know what bike you need in your life, there is plenty of time to be sensible when you get really old. Having said that, as a potential alternative to the T100, I really like the look of the new 400cc machines and they seem to be excellent value.
Wow, yeah. I just looked at the numbers on those and, that's a pretty nice set-up for that price!
I'd go for semething light in your place. Like a Ducati Scrambler. The bikes you picked are heavy as hell.
Unless, that's really what you go for.
Try interceptor 650
I just bought 1 a week ago i loved it
I hear you about wanting a motorcycle to go longer distances and a little faster. I’ve only had my Vespa SuperTech since late Oct with now nearly 700 mi on it, I really want to go places that is impractical for a Vespa to travel - especially here in Texas where everybody drives mach 5 with their hair on fire. But I want the Honda Goldwing. That ain’t ever happening so I will just have to be content with my Vespa.
A Goldwing? Why not just strap some wheels on your couch? :)
Nice work getting 700 miles in. That's pretty quick!
@@itsthebugshow LOL If I could I would. I long for the days of the 20ft long Lincoln Continental where you could run over a Volkswagen and never feel it.
54 HP is nice if you actually have somebody else with you or some package; that's where the Royal Enfield Himalayan s*cks imo, at least on the streets. The mentioned Honda has the benefits of the Royal Enfield, is though better on the street and easier "good to ride"; keep in mind that the Royal has one cylinder. That's great off road and I really like it but I'd hate it on longer road trips tbh.
The Triumph is, if you don't wanna go "off road off road" - like, idk, I mean like trails and stuff because so normal not paved roads, I also tackle with a Honda CX500 from 1980 and I'm fine, you just have to take it maybe slower then or put other tires on it - the best machine though; it has "character" yet still the comfort of the Honda.
In general though are there also other Bikes like the Boneville or if you already say you wanna deal with rusty bolts, you can also look in some older machines.
The thing is, it depends actually on what you really wanna do. If you primarly go on roads (paved or not), you'll be happier with a little bit more performance and 2+ Cylinders. If you wanna go off road, but without / with not much package, then the Himalayan.
You've probably already looked at it, but to throw another bike into the mix - the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650. It's very similar to the Bonneville (being based on Royal Enfield's old Interceptor from the 60s), has ABS and EFI, but without the fake carb.
Either way, Royal Enfield build quality and reliability has improved significantly with their new models from 2018 and onward. I wouldn't have any concerns about owning one in terms of reliability.
Cool, yeah I'm starting to hear good things about the REs and might really need to take them more seriously.
I love nonsensical cross-shops like this. I currently have a Himalayan, I'm considering swapping for a Kawasaki W800, Honda NC750, Enfield Classic 350 or a Bonneville. Essentially four bikes from different categories but I'd basically ride all of them the same way! I would advise against the Himalayan for your planned use case though, one of the 650s would be more suitable.
You really need to check the new Himalayan out.
Rusty Bolts -I used to wrestle under that name. anyway - To me, those retro bikes are what a motorcycle looks like. I like Triumphs but - check out the kawasaki w650 and w800. All the Royal Enfields from 350 to 650 Super Meteor seem nice. on UA-cam there's an aussie called Waro who has your Vespa and Royal Enfield 350 - he says the Vespa is faster. And speaking of R.E. Himalayans, there's on youtube - 'Scooter in the Sticks' from Pa. who has one and does vids on it and loves it. (coincidentally, he too, has a Vespa 250). a freyed knot! haha just got it.
Funny, I had a similar joke ready to go. Something about Rusty Bolts being my porn name, but I get enough flack as it is. :)
@ScooterintheSticks is a great guy. Love his channel. I actually reached out to him to pick his brain on this and he was nice enough to write me a long response back.
Im guessing the Vespa is too chill for you? No need to use a clutch. I get it . I really like ADVs and dual sports, and the fact you can go on or off street .
I looked at alot of them before getting my Vespa. Kawasaki Versys 650 is a great adv. Hondas CBR 300 is pretty cool too.
No, I love my Vespa. Dearly. I see them as two pretty different things. I guess I'd describe the Vespa as chill, and I think that's what I love about it. In addition, I'd also like to have something that is less chill, to do different things.
The Versys is pretty sweet. I was considering one but it was way too far away for me.
Hey bug, Happy New Year!
From your list, I would exclude the RE Himalayan. Simply, it is too heavy, too underpowered and too ugly, no offence. Unless you want to go with the 2024 model, but I am not sure if that one is even available in the Americas, yet. If you really want to ride long distances on rough roads better go with a 300L Rally like Noraly.
Now, between CB500X and T100 it would be a tough call. Those are beautiful machines but very different. I owned a T100 in the past and I own a CB500X now.
It all depends on your use cases and which one raises your heartbeat more when you look at them in the garage.
If you really want a do-it-all, super easy to ride and maintain, the friendliest-bike-award kind of a bike, go for CB500X. My only suggestion would be a 2022+ model.
But, if you want to ride in style and look like a badass then T100 all day and everyday.
Any year 2009+ would be a good choice and my choice would be 2021+.
And for the end I just want to make one suggestion, that bike was already mentioned here but I will repeat it, look at Moto Guzzi V7 850, that is model 2021+.
I think, if you love T100 then you would love V7 too because that machine is simply an italian masterpiece like your GTS (in bianco innocente).😁
Thanks for the comment. The V7 is really growing on me. Very nice.
Well, I have the three motorcycles categories in my garage that you're after -- 2022 Himalayan, 2006 Vespa GTS 250, 2001 Kawasaki W650, and a fourth -- a 2005 Vespa ET4. The W650 is comparable to the Triumph Bonneville you're lusting for. I test rode a couple and liked them but the weight was a bit heavier than I liked. But you're a lot younger than I am so it may not be an issue for you.
The Himalayan is sort of in a glass by itself. I don't really find it comparable to much of anything aside from a farm tractor. The brand new 452 Himalayan would be more like the KTM390 Adventure or that Honda you speak of.
All that aside. You'll figure out what you want. But I wanted to say I really enjoy listening to your comments and your voice presentation. I would watch the cat reviews. And Father Bug. I find the same desire to change up my channel. The only apparent avenue for me as I approach age 70 is riding for old farts. Important questions like, "Are you a riding coot, codger, or curmudgeon?" And amplified by whether an old rider is a creep with assholish tendencies or an asshole with creepish tendencies. Other than that I fear I have no options.
Great video as always. Good luck with your adventures in finding a motorcycle!
Again, thank you. When I started this channel, I had this funny idea in the back of my mind that you'd hate it (Been watching your channel for some time now)... And that bugged me. I'm thrilled that you watch. You are one of the best out there.
As for motorcycles... It's quite possible I found what I was looking for and if things work out, this is gonna be one heck of a video. It's 4 1/2 hours away! In 45 degree weather on the highway, I just can't imagine this is gonna be good. Stay tuned!!!
@@itsthebugshow I envy your sense of humor. Probably because my own is non-existent and my taste in humor is questionable. Aside from yours of course. My tastes run more towards Jackass's "Bad Grandpa" or the "Trailer Park Boys."
Love the map cues……but remind me not to ask you to navigate! 😂
I smell some test ride videos coming up... i got a 24 year old Yamaha XJR, its fun and has plenty of character, tries to kill me on my off days. I got a Honda ST 1300, its nice and comfortable and its good for the longer rides. It is good for 2up. You want longer rides, so you need luggage options. Which bike is best for that, i think the Honda.
At your age (at any age beyond 86y+17y = 104y ), clearly, get something your heart's in.
It really depends all of your choosen bikes are different. The now old Model Himalayan has for it´s low HP a lot of Torques at low End wich makes her capable Offroad and an pretty low Top Speed at around 120kpH/75mpH. Depending on your weight the Seat can suck at long Range butoverall it´s reliable . Not as good as Honda but better than Triumph Bonnies or any KTM. You would be better off with the New one if you search an Allrounder and even RE´s are reliable the new has to prove her self first or alternative the Itchy Boots way CRF300Rally.
CB500X reliable yes, more HP than the RE yes. Faster on Road as the RE yes but with her high weight Mediocore Travel Bike but combined with her low Groundclearence only Mediocore Offroad as well. Even an rebuilded CB125F would be an better Offroad Bike.
Classic Bonnie look Nice and Classic but an to high price for what it is and pure rational you would be better off with an Suzuki SV, Yamaha XSR, CL500, CB650R CB1000R or the upcoming Honda Rebel 1100. And Bonnies can be bitches in reliability. Don´t missunderstood the most are reliable but the Hand Full of Bitches makes them less reliable than Honda and Royal Enfield
So now you have the Choice something reliable and capable Offroad the Himalayan, Best Allrounder with good reliability the NX or something good looking classic and retro wich can be an bitch and you want something overpriced classic and the least reliable than take the Bonnie.
And to bring some other candidates Aprillia Tuareg 660 if you want to stay with Vespa, Triumph Tiger 660, Honda Transalp 750, Honda NX500 wich would be a small improvement but is an improvement to the CB500X, boring to drive Tenere 700 and V-Strom 650 & 800. All more reliable than an Bonnie, Better Onroad than an Himalayan and Better Allrounder that are not to heavy as an CB500X and in case of the NX500 even New cheaper than an good used Bonnie. If you really want Itchy Boots Style than even CRF300Rally.
If you wan´t an personal Project an build up CRF300 and if you don´t bother to travel slow on backroads but reliable and dirt cheap with some offroad capabilities an build up 2021-today CB125F but that is so special that i don´t think that this is something for you or even worth to import one into the USA or Canada because official it´s not available but can be an nice secondary project for the channel
1000 cc + Variants or the Queen of the Desert Africa Twin nope to heavy because the Time will come where you have to lift them alone from the Ground and that is even cancer with the lighter ones . KTM/Husqvarna also out of the way not reliable enough and the only good one the 450 Rally Replica is not what you are looking for . BMW overhyped GS are also out of question exept you are looking for something like that with a lot of toys but nothing else to offer
Bug, i see you on a Moto Guzzi V7 Café edition. ❤
Why not both ? Get a Royal Enfield INT or Conti GT (Conti has won my heart, but INT has won my spine. So INT was my decision) those are cheap and reliable. Plus the 2023 model year removed most of the issues that I did not like on the model. And added cast wheels. Thats a plus on one side (less weight and finally tubeless tires) but a big negative on the retro aspect of the bike. A major plus is that accessories for RE cost 3 times less for an INT650 then for my Tiger 850 Sport. And I am in Europe, not India.
And some middle weight 700-900cc adventure bike. They all are disgustingly ugly to my taste (maybe the Moto Guzzi V85 TT is better, but you will need to get two. One to use when the other is broken and waits for parts for the next 5 months :D ). But the comfort levels one these kind of bikes are very good.
Or get even more money and take a look at the Triumph 1200 scrambler line up. The one with upgraded forks and suspension. Looks cool, can go off road a bit, has plenty of tech. I could not justify one only for its lack of space for a passenger (im fat, and my hippo ass takes most of the seat).
The Royal Enfield seems to be the one that seems to have the same soul as the Vespa, so instead of Italy. this time India.
Screw that Himalayan. It's too underpowered for U.S. freeways. Replace that option with a KTM 390 adventure and now you have a proper list. Where you live I would go with the Bonneville t120. "Easy to maintain". Moto Guzzi v7. I know it's Italian but it's air cooled and valve adjustments are easy.
Aw heck go all out and get a Tamarit. 🤪 Joking aside you're not likely to be sad with any of those, so i guess whichever is comfiest for you to be on/operating.
I know, cop-out. Hashtag deal with it. And such. 😘
A Triumph T120 popped on my radar today... It's 300 miles away. Seriously considering it...
@@itsthebugshow do eet!! Those are schmexy.
@@armedferret I know, right? It's the black version, and it's got 9000 miles on it. I dont know if the planets are aligning or satan is laughing at me...
@@itsthebugshow RIP your wallet. :D
Let’s do some scooter miles here in Portland and deliberate Itchy Boots over some non-alcoholic IPAs.
I need help on how to scratch my nose in my full face helmet? Haha
Not everyone understands. It took me weeks to figure it out.
How about a Honda NC750X?
The NC750X has been recommended to me a lot. I don't love the idea of the DCT, but since so many have suggested it, I really need to give it a ride...
Bonneville - no brainer.
Perfect for me then.
A true all rounder would be the new Honda 750 TransAlp. Bonneville is very nice though, and you can always change up or add later. 🤷♂️
Oh yeah, no on the Himalayan. Had one, liked it. Rode cross country during Covid. Sucked big time for touring. Big mistake.
I’d say the Honda but only fools follow my advice so get the Bonneville.
Honda Transalp.
Yes !!!
Royal Enfield? I'm shooting for the Hunter only because unlike you, I've never ridden a MC. 4 years+ under my belt Vespa 250 then the BV 400.
That's a really sweet looking bike, and that price is very right!
@@itsthebugshow the price is really sweet! I'll keep my BV for longer/touring trips.
Buy royal enfield, because I’m from india
Honda AfricaTwin DCT
Automatic motorcycle
I dunno... I really want a different experience than my Vespa. Feeling the need for a shifter.
Riding when you are 70....doing stupid stuff??? I resemble that remark!!!!!! I've went from scooter all the way up to Gold Wings and all the way back down to scooters. I just got rid of my GTS 300.........and bought another Primavera. 2 Vespas.
I'm not watching your channel for the bikes any how.....I watch it for you weird humor.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's good, because if you are watching it for the bikes you'll be very sorely misinformed about just about every aspect of them.
Except for the buttons. They're terrible and that's actual fact. Everything else I say is just made up.
Why are there so many campers on the side of the road? homeless??
Yeah, it's pretty bad here, like other cities I guess.
great joke
Bonneville for sure if not Z900RS