The Leica M11D could DESTROY the Fuji X100VI

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  • @michialharris1850
    @michialharris1850 6 місяців тому +66

    Only thing leica will ever destroy is pockets 😂

  • @cornellouis
    @cornellouis 6 місяців тому +37

    Including a lens this is a 10X cost difference. I don't think they're competing for the same dollars.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +18

      Raise your hand if you didn’t watch the video but left a comment 🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @grainsilver
      @grainsilver 6 місяців тому

      @@davidherring 🤣

  • @kidnoble
    @kidnoble 6 місяців тому +9

    The level of trolling is even more impressive when I read the comments here 😂😂😂

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      In all fairness they deserve it.

  • @TheWurzelmaster
    @TheWurzelmaster 6 місяців тому +7

    Wait, no film advance lever?! We need to reset the shutter button manually!

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +2

      Ok that’s too far.

    • @iam.neekeeteen
      @iam.neekeeteen 6 місяців тому +1

      every advance is just $0.99!

    • @thebitterfig9903
      @thebitterfig9903 6 місяців тому

      I mean, that’s kinda something that fans of the Epson RD1 enjoyed. It was a digital camera build within the frame of a Corina/Voightlander Bessa, and you had to cock the shutter by using an advance lever.

  • @JPWineberg
    @JPWineberg 6 місяців тому +10

    Better yet, how about a film camera with an EVF! 😜

  • @rossxjohnson
    @rossxjohnson 6 місяців тому +6

    It's not April 1st yet. You had me going for a bit. That ioe greer strap comment. 🤣 Good on you for not taking things seriously.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +2

      We can have fun and enjoy the day.

  • @phototristan
    @phototristan 5 місяців тому +2

    If you want more limited tonal range of the Monochrom, that defeats the point of it, just shoot color and turn it to black and white.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  5 місяців тому

      The entire video is parody my friend.

    • @ramblingcameraman990
      @ramblingcameraman990 26 днів тому

      @@davidherringI mean, there’s a few great suggestions, but definitely turned parody once you started talking about $10 transfer fees, $300 CLA’s and hand checking 😂😂😂

  • @streetphotojournalism
    @streetphotojournalism 22 дні тому

    So by this point most of us are aware that Leica hasn’t been able to fix the freezing issues in the m11 and m11p, yes they are still requiring a battery pop out reset. So with the m11D how do you know it’s frozen without a screen? Do you find out when you get home to download the images?

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  22 дні тому

      That’s a great question honestly.

  • @alexjowx
    @alexjowx 6 місяців тому +3

    This is objectively ridiculous. But I would really want this camera 😅
    Only thing I would remove out of the list is paying for the film development.
    As for storage, they could sell 13GB SD, with the look/ISO being a physical aspect of the card.
    You’d have a Portra 400 card, and it could do only that. And if remove it before the 36 shots, it wipes itself

  • @camelotvanerven9667
    @camelotvanerven9667 6 місяців тому +3

    Has the M6 not centre weight metering, as opposed to spot?

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      Pretty sure it’s spot, but I could be wrong.

    • @oCorvus
      @oCorvus 6 місяців тому +3

      @davidherring
      This is a common misconception but is indeed center weighted.
      If you remove the lens and cock the shutter you will see the white metering patch on the shutter curtain. According to the manual this has a diameter of 12mm, which is equal to 2/3 the height of the frame.
      Additionally the manual shows that if you are using the 28/35/50 lenses you can use the smaller frame lines 75/90/135 as a rough visual representation as to the size of the metering circle.
      Anyways, great vid as per usual!

  • @saurabhbhardwaj6753
    @saurabhbhardwaj6753 2 місяці тому

    Com'on Dave! When u started I was excited to get one but as soon as you started adding the cost, I got off tracked very fast. The bigger problem with film for some of us is not the cost, it's the availability of films, good labs to develop and scan and as you rightly mentioned the headache through airport security. I would get the new MD only to get rid of such headaches and better my present experience. I have been a very happy owner of the Leica M-D for last 7 years and for film I use my beloved M5 and leicaflex SL2. Now I can't wait for this new release. My only hope is that Leica keeps true to the roots and not have any gimmicks like the fake lever and plastic selector on the back panel we saw on the M10-D, though I hope we get colours like 240 or M10R. Like you, the Fujifilm didn't sing to me at all as soon as I held it, and my only interest in that camera was the film effects, if Leica is able to add Leica looks as default in the images, then its surely gonna be a winner, at least that will make me think about it- and yes...may be it will be in Brass as my laical M-D is. I will add this to my wish list as well :)

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  2 місяці тому

      Just remember this video is 1000% a parody and as ridiculous as I could make it haha

  • @LegacyGuitars
    @LegacyGuitars 6 місяців тому +1

    AND Leica could add a big brother model for Medium Format, and limit us to 12 shots for the 6x6 version and so on. The price should obviously double for the medium format options.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      The Leica67 is what we actually need.

    • @LegacyGuitars
      @LegacyGuitars 6 місяців тому

      They should make it weigh like 6 lbs just so you can really "feel" the experience, it feels genuine. @@davidherring

  • @glassworkscreative
    @glassworkscreative 23 дні тому

    The jump cuts and punch ins that are either designed to mask the single cam or inability to put together a full thought is very distracting.

  • @johannesgeenen4169
    @johannesgeenen4169 6 місяців тому +1

    I'd love to see Leica taking pre-configured 4-GB-SD-Cards only. You configure them with a simple editor to dial a fixed ISO setting and a definite color grade to the camera. 4GB is just enough for a couple of dozen shots in TIFF format - pretty close to the original 135 film experience. And it should have a built-in fixed capacitor battery that is good for one SD card full of exposures. You could use either a (fake) rewind lever or (fake) film advance lever to charge that small battery with a couple of strokes. I know, this might be a challenge because the light meter would drain the battery - but why should a Leica need a light meter at all (or this fancy back-lit frame lines)? Given the 70th anniversary of the M3 - this truly retro-spec'd M3-D would crash the market.

  • @artemkanaki9274
    @artemkanaki9274 6 місяців тому

    They already made a camera that you described, it’s called m6.
    Leica D series are very niche cameras therefore they cost more than regular m262 and m10. I doubt that 10k camera (without a lens) can compete with 2k fuji.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      … which is why I made this parody video.

  • @etienneplumer1
    @etienneplumer1 4 дні тому

    Fantastic one! 😂 The best moment on You Tube for a long time. It’s seriously radical and fun at the same time. Cheers!

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  3 дні тому

      Haha thanks!

    • @etienneplumer1
      @etienneplumer1 2 дні тому

      @@davidherring I just catched my M11-D this morning. I was talking about this "niche in the niche" camera with the shop manager. He told me that, in the past, the Germans were using very basic Leica cameras (derived from the microscope's branch) to read and record the gas meters! No screen, hyperfocal only and no viewfinder is the next step!!! 😁

  • @narasonfun
    @narasonfun 6 місяців тому

    I want to see the physical and functional film advance lever on Leica digital M body like Epson RD-1.

  • @rio_nakayama
    @rio_nakayama 6 місяців тому

    Got a good one, it has to have a real mechanical 'film wind' lever, like the Epson RD-1 (Seriously).. They've got to do it!

  • @rafibenatar2519
    @rafibenatar2519 6 місяців тому +1

    What kind compare Fuji x100VI to M11? It’s like comparing pick up truck to super car!

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      Commenting without watching the video is actually a sin, and it’s Holy Week friend.

    • @rafibenatar2519
      @rafibenatar2519 6 місяців тому

      I did watch till the end trust me!

    • @alexjowx
      @alexjowx 6 місяців тому +1

      @@rafibenatar2519that’s even worse.

    • @michialharris1850
      @michialharris1850 6 місяців тому +1

      Not really

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot 6 місяців тому +1

      @@rafibenatar2519 This whole video was a troll man. Nothing about it is serious that's the point.

  • @j.f.7509
    @j.f.7509 6 місяців тому

    Here's my wish list: No light meter at all, manual cocking the shutter (like the Epson R-D1), ISO from 25 to 400, CCD sensor, after 36 shots it says "card is full, replace" (need to pull out and re-insert the card), and for the final touch, already taped up and a bogus ssn etched on the baseplate (by a shaking hand). 😆

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      I could get down with these! 😂

  • @ldmndz4652
    @ldmndz4652 6 місяців тому

    Very cool and interesting points!..really like the Limited ISO being set! and the 36 shots..lol These two being set really makes you think more about everything!..like you said the "traditional" photography days..you get better at composition, story telling, your light source, etc etc..be cool to have this as an option for sure!..

  • @heystrictunit
    @heystrictunit 6 місяців тому

    😄Nice one! Honestly, I would love them to make an MxD that would have the form factor of M6, without a screen, with an old type of framelines illumination, a manual lever for recocking the shutter, and maybe some collaboration with Kodak and Ilford on film simulations. I know that's physically impossible right now, but it would be nice🙃

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      Dreams.

    • @stevieraveon
      @stevieraveon 6 місяців тому

      I have been waiting for them to make one that looks like the iiia, still holding my breath.

  • @fictiondc
    @fictiondc 6 місяців тому

    It’s a good start but they could do more.
    No auto ISO. Need to add a feature where you manually set film speed on the back and you need to remember what film look you set for the entire 36 frames.
    $5 purchase once a year to replace battery or you go into no meter mode.
    1 out of every 50 times digital files come back blank due to incorrect loading.
    1 out of every 50 times files come back with streaks on files due to bad digital film lab processing.

  • @ramblingcameraman990
    @ramblingcameraman990 26 днів тому

    You lost me at the $10 file transfer 😂

  • @dean_hinnant
    @dean_hinnant 6 місяців тому

    Im down for the 36 exposures at an iso setting and a color or monochrome profile. Overall though I’d like for a camera with that much pay-to-play, to have a lower entry price. Part of this also feels a little too Tesla. That said, I appreciate the effort to talk about fresh ideas for cameras!

  • @superkrell
    @superkrell 4 місяці тому

    Been there, done that!
    Last year, 2023, after purchasing a MD 262 came to realize the ultimate digital camera for film lovers. The Leica MD 262 is the camera that has succeeded for a digital camera coming as close to a film camera`s experience ever. It actually slows you down like a film camera while having a fully manual mode like my Nikon F2! Anything other than the MD 262 would deviate from a true film experience that the MD already has...!

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  4 місяці тому +1

      This video is a parody. :-)

    • @superkrell
      @superkrell 4 місяці тому

      @@davidherring
      I had to look up the definition of parody...!

  • @stevieraveon
    @stevieraveon 6 місяців тому

    This is so outrageously good, lol. Thanks! I think you should add #11 with an old leather smell scent, owners must apply once a month or their M11D will be taken away from them.
    Also, a manual film rewind knob for 36 before your can load the next film sim.

  • @hermanzhang6494
    @hermanzhang6494 6 місяців тому

    what you are saying, it makes it so inconvenient that you might as well get a M6 which costs way less.

  • @partean
    @partean 23 дні тому

    The only digital camera I would ever own.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  23 дні тому

      It’s definitely a beautiful camera.

  • @Timeistheonlyessence
    @Timeistheonlyessence 6 місяців тому +1

    Did April 1st come early?

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      Gotta stay ahead of the market… like Sony.

  • @JVHammond
    @JVHammond 6 місяців тому +2

    You should only be able to buy the Leica with cash, because that’s a film experience! 😅

  • @joseadrianchiyahalvarez3809
    @joseadrianchiyahalvarez3809 6 місяців тому

    really great specs my friend, i hope will be true, i love the film experience, but only one thing why we need to pay for everything, i think that the digital format will be easy and cheap, if not why we change our m6 or m7... 🙃 and another thing will be to advance the pics you have to use the lever like in film 😛

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      Wouldn’t it be wild if they actually made this camera?

    • @joseadrianchiyahalvarez3809
      @joseadrianchiyahalvarez3809 6 місяців тому

      @@davidherring would be awesome, a really true film experience but in digital, so the only thing to change from your specs will be the extra cost, the digital always give us free cost taking pictures, its it? 🙂

  • @Leicam10
    @Leicam10 6 місяців тому

    How can the m8 and Otter old ccd sensors give us the colors many of us we want but not the new m11. How hard can it be 🤔

  • @GuillaumeCM-im7pd
    @GuillaumeCM-im7pd 4 місяці тому

    A bump on my Leica makes any Leica owner faint (and is very likely to alter the telemeter). However solid the body could be, I would never use it to destroy anything… Certainly not an excellent camera from Fuji that is a perfect complement to Leica M. I have an x100, dusty as all from first generation but I love it too.
    Tout title destroys my interest for a video though…

  • @BrandonHinsley
    @BrandonHinsley 5 місяців тому

    The price to take the 36 images off of your camera should vary based on location. I mean I can dev only in LA for $7!

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  5 місяців тому

      This is a great feature! Unlock “Roaming” for $99/yr.

  • @i003410
    @i003410 12 днів тому

    36 shots only? Limited ISO? Aye.. just make the M11D worthy for the 2% crazies and ignore the rest of the 98% market. Thank goodness these crazies do not run multinational companies.

  • @killa-kitty
    @killa-kitty 4 місяці тому

    only 36 exposures on the camera can not be reality. It will be enought that leica m11d software makes new folders on SDcard in every 36 shot counts.

  • @JackTse
    @JackTse 6 місяців тому

    Great learning video on equipment attitudes … also great music in this vid

  • @irvinmartin9259
    @irvinmartin9259 6 місяців тому

    The hardest thing about the film experience to replicate is the antici……pation of the developed and printed photos. After clicking the shutter, it should take a week for them to appear.

  • @boltonpd0719
    @boltonpd0719 26 днів тому

    You forgot the CCD sensor

  • @sam.halljr
    @sam.halljr 6 місяців тому

    What if I have a blackberry and can’t access the fotos app….

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      Well you’re screwed then.

  • @Stringbob
    @Stringbob 6 місяців тому

    Sounds like you want an M8 Dave!!!

  • @toomanynegatives
    @toomanynegatives Місяць тому

    Are we just describing the m9?

  • @wanderingwongs7464
    @wanderingwongs7464 6 місяців тому

    That'll be the fastest CLA in the history of Leica 😅

  • @forgottenamericana
    @forgottenamericana 6 місяців тому

    There’s quite a buzz out there on the M11D. I like outside the box videos like this. 🤪

  • @spooky_lights
    @spooky_lights 6 місяців тому

    "In app purchases," 😂 this is gold! wait, not gold, BRASS!

  • @Malick333
    @Malick333 6 місяців тому

    All Current UA-camrs: “How can I make X100VI content any way possible???”
    🤣🤣🤣😘😘😘

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      This was more about the M11-D but thanks for the comment.

    • @Malick333
      @Malick333 6 місяців тому

      @@davidherring exactly, which is why it was clever to get me to click it. I wouldn’t have clicked about the 11D only 😉

  • @TheNewBruno69
    @TheNewBruno69 5 місяців тому

    if anyone wanna have a TLDR and is into videogames, it's like EA develops a Leica LMAO, i am almost cringing if i didn't knew it was a parody, love all the horrible ideas, the CLA was nonsense that i love it

  • @gustavomonasterios6083
    @gustavomonasterios6083 6 місяців тому

    Crazy Ideas, but paying to see the pictures 😮. The machine is already expensive. A lease camera and payment method is the developing of the pictures 😂😂😂, another idea haha. Good and fun episode 😅

  • @blakeanderson5428
    @blakeanderson5428 6 місяців тому

    I love how cheeky this gets!

  • @philipmode
    @philipmode 6 місяців тому

    I laughed along with the absurdities in this video, and then thought back to all the time and money I’ve sunk into a camera system without all the 21st century conveniences. So I guess the joke’s on me.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      The joke is on all of us on this blessed day.

  • @davesaunders59
    @davesaunders59 6 місяців тому

    Fuji have the X-Pro line. If Fuji made an X-Pro full frame M Mount camera with an OVF and EVF I believe Fuji would make $

  • @mandiworld
    @mandiworld 6 місяців тому

    What do you want... a Fujilica? Not happening!

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      First off, let’s watch the sass, ok? Second off how do you know Fuji won’t buy Leica and make the classic FUJEIKA? (Say it slowly)

  • @HJ-nh1wl
    @HJ-nh1wl Місяць тому

    Sadly ….. there would only be one customer - YOU!
    Leica would still charge ….. £5,000 plus!
    Majority of what you say is correct or points well made - but you or we all have a choice! Either fiddling or no-fiddling with the menu! Including inserting an old style small Gigabit card (2 Gb if you can get hold of one that records at high speed!), etc. etc.etc!
    BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU WISH FOR! Leica does have a habit of listening to its users!

  • @AdamAllen
    @AdamAllen 6 місяців тому +2

    Almost got me.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      No you can admit it, I got you.

  • @SpencerLupul
    @SpencerLupul 6 місяців тому

    did you release this a few days early? 😂

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      Gotta be the first to market!

  • @Filmstill__
    @Filmstill__ 6 місяців тому

    Some good points here brother but that digital repair at 300 bucks got me 😂

  • @tboogz7767
    @tboogz7767 6 місяців тому

    Believe me, if i could afford a Leica, I’d have one already… instead i have an X100V.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      Well you should rethink your priorities and stop choosing things like rent, food, insurance, debt, and avocado toast.

  • @labonnemedia
    @labonnemedia 5 місяців тому

    If it was 2 grand, sure... but it'll be like 8k, so no, its not the same group of people buying these devices.

  • @crespotakesphotos
    @crespotakesphotos 23 дні тому

    This video only convinces me to get an M6 instead 😂

  • @Scroogethegrouch
    @Scroogethegrouch 6 місяців тому

    Let’s overcook the pudding and drop the lightmeter - as a happy user of a Leica M-A I’ll prefer a good sunny-16…

  • @wanderingwongs7464
    @wanderingwongs7464 6 місяців тому

    Great ideas, Dave! Leica, if you're listening...😅

  • @thatsamuellu
    @thatsamuellu 6 місяців тому

    That’s a proper film experience digital camera. 📷 more interesting than x100VI. 😂

  • @TonyNomadic
    @TonyNomadic 6 місяців тому

    Leica is trying to take all my money… Fuji needs to stop playing about the x pro 4

  • @MakePictures
    @MakePictures 6 місяців тому

    LOL i didn’t even watch the vid yet- your title made me spit coffee

  • @lukasvanderlende
    @lukasvanderlende 6 місяців тому

    I love your humor Dave

  • @hellogregory3449
    @hellogregory3449 6 місяців тому

    Would have been a great April Fools day post 😜

  • @thomstevenson8322
    @thomstevenson8322 6 місяців тому

    Hilarious! Good job, Dave!

  • @yingthao6855
    @yingthao6855 6 місяців тому

    Sounds very inconvenience for 2024 :(

  • @zteefzeefje
    @zteefzeefje 6 місяців тому

    Hilarious 😂
    And of course visoflex disabled hotshoe 😂

  • @bushbeatnik4480
    @bushbeatnik4480 5 місяців тому

    2 stupid 2 be stupid. Just here for the comments. I bought my m6 in 90...new with V4 35cron. When were your born? This is seriously funny. nice vid.

  • @SavedbybGrace
    @SavedbybGrace 6 місяців тому

    Do you reallly think the M6 is the epitome of the film camera? Agree that it's awesome... MP for me. And BTW... thankfully your'e not on the leica development team!!! 🤣

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      The M6 is the most sought after Leica film camera, with the MP just being an updated / modern version of it. And Leica would be #BLESSED to have me! 😂

    • @SavedbybGrace
      @SavedbybGrace 6 місяців тому

      @@davidherring 🤓I do love the M6. I've owned two including the "Millenium" which I foolishly sold... 😵‍💫

  • @garymc8956
    @garymc8956 6 місяців тому

    Have to admit you had me going for a bit. Nice tongue in cheek.

  • @SportPlusDad
    @SportPlusDad 6 місяців тому

    Maybe I missed the part about not being able to offload any pictures until you finished taking 36 photos. THAT would be authentic.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      Yep, Throttled Transfer section! 😂

  • @donjagoe
    @donjagoe 6 місяців тому

    Great stuff..

  • @LaFuenteOnFilm
    @LaFuenteOnFilm 6 місяців тому

    Leica is gonna make all of us broke 😅

  • @CalMukumoto
    @CalMukumoto 6 місяців тому

    lol , every reason l love my M11 over my Nikon FM 🎉😂

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

    • @CalMukumoto
      @CalMukumoto 6 місяців тому

      @@davidherringNo problem, Sir, I thought it was an Arby’s. Great video 🎉

  • @straydog6166
    @straydog6166 23 дні тому

    Just buy a M6, I don't get the point.

  • @sigriston
    @sigriston 6 місяців тому

    To destroy the X100 six you need the Leica M six man… M6 all the way

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому +1

      I don’t disagree!

    • @sigriston
      @sigriston 6 місяців тому

      @@davidherring nice, that’s the message I got from the video anyway: film provides has the best “film” experience.
      Now seriously… picking between the X100VI, M6 and M11, that’s legitimately one hell of a problem to have, those cameras are all amazing! 😻

  • @lephotographinc
    @lephotographinc 6 місяців тому

    I concur wholeheartedly. LMAO.

  • @vincepetitjean
    @vincepetitjean 6 місяців тому

    a few days early for April fools

  • @heikoh.schulz9429
    @heikoh.schulz9429 6 місяців тому

    Early for a 1. April joke 😂

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      Gotta be ahead of the market ya know?

  • @gobgobcachoo
    @gobgobcachoo 6 місяців тому

    Lmao. No, it won't.
    I shoot both systems. 😂 It's apples and oranges.
    Good clickbait title, however.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for actually watching the video! Or at least reading the description.

  • @Gvacam1222
    @Gvacam1222 4 місяці тому

    Please stop it you will give them ideas for m12 🤣

  • @stefanbender2584
    @stefanbender2584 6 місяців тому

    Could....not.

    • @davidherring
      @davidherring  6 місяців тому

      … did you actually watch the video or are you just dropping your comment based on the title?

    • @stefanbender2584
      @stefanbender2584 6 місяців тому

      @@davidherring why did you choose this kind of title? why did leica stop the CL? Not expensive enough?

  • @BermJA
    @BermJA 6 місяців тому

    Ha. Isn’t film great? You (meaning anyone) can spend all of this extra money just to be tortured, and for the opportunity to tell everyone how special and unique it is to be a film photographer.

  • @walkingmanvideo9455
    @walkingmanvideo9455 22 дні тому

    A potato could destroy the x100vi.

  • @BadVoodoo11
    @BadVoodoo11 3 місяці тому

    I actually lol 😂 good job

  • @jdsd771007
    @jdsd771007 6 місяців тому +1

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @AlanGreenberg-i8p
    @AlanGreenberg-i8p 6 місяців тому

    LOL

  • @richarddutchholland4780
    @richarddutchholland4780 6 місяців тому

    😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Ullr-Zero-Kelvin
    @Ullr-Zero-Kelvin 6 місяців тому

    😂😂😂

  • @MattWiener
    @MattWiener 6 місяців тому

    Leica is an incredible rip off