Lining with a Rotary | Fridays with Franco
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Third episode of "Fridays with Franco", Bishop's new weekly Facebook Live show where Franco answers your questions!
0:00 Intro
0:40 Lining with a rotary machine
13:52 When lining with a rotary, do I need a larger needle to get a true thickness of the line?
16:03 What is the best way to wrap the WAND with non-disposable grips?
18:51 INK-EEZE spray bandage
21:28 Needle slows down during bottom part of cam rotation?
22:57 The problem with adjustable give
29:47 Is the Packer WAND good for 14RL & 11RS?
32:05 Which WAND for @flaks32f type of work?
32:51 Which WAND for an easy transition from the Microangelo or Magi?
33:03 Good starter rotary machine: WAND or V6?
34:59 Microangelo grommets?
35:35 2 inch WAND aluminum grips
36:19 ARMA grips
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I want too thank Bishop for helping me out I got Robbed for all my tattoo Equipment my wife Wrote a letter and Bishop helped me out and I can't thank them enough I am now about too buy the Bishop wand packer... I will most definitely stick with this Company for life they did a lot for me but now I am buying the packer wand. Thank you Bishop so much you make the best and like I said Bishop didn't Half too help me out but they did and I will always show them love made in USA God bless you.
USE YOUR SENSES, eyes, ears, touch, machine and your hand are together as one, the settings are in my hand not so much my machine. Adaptability is a must. It made my day to hear you basically say what I've lived by since 92. Thank you !
Those Fridays with Franco are gold... Thank U ! Keep those amazing teaching chat with us 🙏
Very informative , I appreciate you guys taking your time to do these videos, i switched to rotaries about two years ago and had to figure it out on my own , nice that you’re helping out everyone.
I’ve had this video saved for weeks in my studying Playlist, I’ve just found the time to watch it. My god, you guys are the coolest! This helped me so much. Looking forward to watch more from u! ❤️🔥
I am a lifetime customer !!! Customer Service is REAL FN SERVICE. SALUTE THANK YOU!!
This was perfect and informative in the way I needed to hear it. Thank you so much. I struggle sometimes with that fear. I tell myself I can always go back rather then blowout but this helped my mindset of letting go of that fear and finding the right depth and not hesitating and pulling back on the pressure before finishing my line. Thanks again for sharing the knowledge
I love rotary will never go back to all those moving parts . Every two minutes trying to re tune a coil machine to find the "sweet spot". A rotary is so consistent . Easier to find the sweet spot. I still struggle with the fear of blowouts so my lines aren't coming out saturated enough. I like how you simplify everything 👏. Thank you for your time both of you sincerely. I own many machines as you can imagine. I own two magi's and I love them for shading and packing colour. As you explained with the organic give
Franco is so sincere and helpful. Thanks!
I learned with coils and have used them for 16yrs. Made the switch over to rotary and today dig it. It was an adjustment for sure. And switching over has saved my wrist for sure. Doesn't feel like a brick in my hand anymore.
Such a great company! Great educational advice, thank you!
Thank you very much for your professional opinion and insight on rotary lining verse coil...very helpful and appreciated
Holy crap, dude. I'v just found my mentor. Best regards from Poland 🇵🇱
TY......my friend needed more information & your knowledge is exactly what he was intrigued by. TY once again with much respect .Lupe & Gato
You guys are doing an awesome job, especially with shipping supplies during this virus situation. Thank you
I love my coils for lining and my capo v6 for color blends and what I like about coils is the sound and the punch in a properly tuned machine can't wait to buy a packer wand from you .
Thanks for these videos, really cool and informative. 🙏
V5 was the 1st rotary I could line with. V6 performed even better. Just ordered the Micro. Also, thank you guys for the generous sample packs.
Honestly i learned to tattoo with coils but i feel like i learned to become an artist with the v6 now with the fantom and shader packer/liner i feel im taking it to a new level
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤘 love my bishop. Thanks a million Franco
Love my microangelo, and my phantom. Great machines...
I’m glad to hear Carlos Torres is a partner. I met him once at the London show and he was such I nice, kind guy. I’m happy to give money to anything he’s involved with.
I personally removed the return spring on my v6 when using cartridges. I realize that if you count the return spring in the cartridge plus the return spring in the cam, causes resistance in the motor. Throwing off the rpm thus making it hard to line...
Customer service is top notch 👍🏼
Wishing the best for ya at bishop 🔥🤘🏻
Love my bishop. over 40 yrs with coil, can"t hold a coil. my bishop has just the right weigh. Will order the packer. Can"t wait.
Best tutorial ever.. Thank you so much!
What’s not to like about this company? Top dawgs in my opinion 👌🏻
Congratulations, you are now my tattoo master.
I’m still a begginer but I started with a rotary cause I could only afford one machine and it seemed like the best choice (it could shade/pack and maybe line if I got the hang of it) so I instinctively played around with the “xyz” and don’t think I’ll ever have to switch to a coil, even though I have one now. Great video, thanks for the info!!!
Thank you 🙏🏼
I'm really new to practical tattooing (though I've been learning theory for over 2 years), and I feel like what you're saying about letting the hand do the give -if I understand you right- is best described as responding to - and adjusting your hand pressure to - the haptic feedback you're getting in both your machine hand and your stretching hand when the needle hits the skin. Or in other words: the tattooing technique needs to take into account more than just how it looks. Sound can also play a role, but is probably the most difficult to pick up on consistently, so visual and tactile feedback are -in my opinion- the main points to focus on. Those remain consistent even if there's music playing, or someone else is working in the booth next to you.
And by the way, thanks a lot for making this video, it's been very informative - even just 28 minutes in! Now to watch the rest!
Awesome topics thank you Franco
Thank you for sharing
great video guys. I used to love bishop machines but I was pretty disappointed when my bishop rotary motor died after just 10 months of usage. never dropped the machine, never used it out of the recommended voltage.. that was pretty sad actually for a machine that cost me 400€. I get the feeling that the more established a brand gets the less they care about costumer service & highend production. I bought machines from private machine builders where every machine is unique & they work just fine as ever where some established ones broke down after a few months to a year...
What a COol Team at the B-shop,Greets from Germany.
I was amazed on how small it is but packs the ink well
Chingon 🙂🤙
Bishop all the way i really love all machines
I'm new to tattooing. Your right we never settle being second best. We want to be the best
This is great!! Thanks Franco!! One thing though... if one is a liner, another shader its still the same thing as having an adjustable machine. Just gotta buy another machine.. good one lol if this was the case just make one machine and master at getting ur hand pressure just right for each skin and style of tattoo. But ur right! Before all these helpful tools we gotta master our craft.
Hear you just fine great work
I’m excited to try these new rotaries with massive throw 5mm + and see if I can punch through lines as fast as I can with a coil.
You are a genius 🙏 thanks for this information 💯
I use a coil machine with a cartridge conversion tube. So I get the quick change and sharpness of cartridges and I keep the buzz and sound of a coil machine. I use a hp/2 supply so I can keep my coil machine top notch tuned for optimal work. It’s just what works best for me. Coil with cartridge is way to go.
the camera needed to figure out its xyz lol great video learn so much from you guys i think i will be investing in all 3 wands kudos to you guys god bless
Awesome information Franco. Great knowledge. Thank you for sharing. Wish you and Bishop continued success and blessings. 👊🏽
Thank you
Prfect video, thanks !
Was never able to line with a rotary. (Not bishop) I never felt like it went in like my coils. Ended up trying a sidewinder and it’s the best of both worlds. I feel like it punches ink in like any coil, but has the consistency of a rotary.
Again I haven’t tried bishop machines so no hate from me!
Good video ❤
which machine would you suggest is closest to getting lines as if i was using a coil v6 or Packer?
Hi, Franco, greetings from Mexico City!! I want to ask you about the fantom, I actually want one so badly, but the thing is they are out of stock, I really hope that you can put in stock asap, but my question is: the Fantom works for Linning too, I mean I need an all around machine, and if it's a Bishop I'm all set to be happy and get the job done every time. And for last I want to thank you your commitment and your support to the tattoo industry, I truly appreciate that and I'm really grateful for found Bishop machines, (here you have a truly fan of yours man, yeahhh) so... thank you, And hope to hear about you Sir. God Bless!!
I have one client on which I did a tattoo a while back, and everything turned out amazing. Solid line work, nice packing, smooth finish. Then we started on another project and for an unknown reason, the lines just wouldn't heal... I love doing tattoos with different line weight and have been for many years. This is the first time I have encountered this problem. I have only been lining with rotary for the last two years, tattooing with coil for the previous 6. But even in the last 2 were I was using the wands, no one ever had this issue. I really appreciate the xyz. It is something we all somewhat hear of, but not necessarily something that we understand, or get explained. Regarding my issue, I initially thought that maybe, out of nowhere, I went bunkers and heavy handed. But would that make sense?
The client was good enough to trust me further and come back. So I tattooed him again and the results were much better, but not as smooth as I like them to be.
The fact that I had no other incidents previous to this, or since, makes me wonder what the issue is. Could it be that it was the sharpy used for the freehand design? I only found one article mentioning that possibility accross the web... Maybe a barbed tip? A health condition my client is unaware of? Or was I super heavy handed that particular day?
Eitherway, I have been very attentive to everything I do since, and it makes me question over everything I do. So much so that I have been considering starting o er from the very basics up again. Althought this is one bad case out of a couple thousand good ones.
I will definitely be working the xyz, but what do you think might have cause this issue?
Thanks for your time!
Can i use v6 for lining and shading? Or i need a separate machine for shading? Thanks
my thoughts match it... i was figuring out from the beginning but i was still stuck in it but ur opinion matches my thoughts thanks
I always see my needle bounce so i got me the ARMA stainless steel grip for my microangelo
Video wasn't sideways for me. Lol! Good content either way!
Got my Capo V6 now it's a absolut Packing wonder it's miles away from all their other Rotary's I am working from know only with bishop products u catch me and from the bottom of my heart thanks for making my art wishes come through ILKAY splashtattooberlin city Europe
respect! nothing more
Ty
Can you make a video on the needle carts and what is good and or bad about them
I wish you would come out with some more coil machine
Thank you I’m so confused with how my old coil machines have such little throw and then the rotary machines are like 4mm I’m just sitting here wondering if I’ll have to setup my cartridge different than I would with a coil like can I let the needle hang as much and can I’d glide over the skin on a slow
Voltage lol so many wuestions
love this talks, i dont even tattoo, YET, i would love too haha but the video is only on 360p ? people cant see the details when you close up.
love the videos , keep up the good work :D
Damn I learned a lot in your Videos, very very informative, you're a genius! Thank you very much for sharing Franco🤘🤘🤘.. I will buy Wand Packer soon✌✌✌
L¹!P!aQ
Testing mo sakin pre hahaha
@@alkatraz706 di sila naglabas ng stainless steel grip eh... Cheyenne Unlmtd nlang bnili ko😅😅😅
Would you recommend going from a could tattoo machine to a rotary?
I set my V’s at 1.0 above where it start hitting. And on my first line. I do 3 speeds in that line. I start slow for about quarter inch, than I hit second gear, than 3rd gear. And than I go back a look at that 3/4 of a inch of line. And I’ll see which gear/speed laid the best. And than I’ll go that speed the rest of the tatt. That way I find my speed I need for that person within 3/4 of an inch of the first line
I have one of your V4 from 2012 which wand would you compare?
Yes yes yes
Hey I have all 3 machines. And all works extremely well. My question is that from my understanding the packer and liner have the same motor. Only difference is the cam. But I can feel a strong difference in regards 2 what feels like "give" the packer feels soft but powerful and the liner is very hard and powerful. Is it jus the cam or is there some "give" difference. BTW not complaining as I luv all 3.???
Camera guy needs to check his xyz 🤣 great video much appreciated 👍🏼
Thanks for this kind of videos!
Should make cartridges that stay flush with the base of the tip like a alastic band does for a tridional machine
Bought a $20 coil machine. I had to go over almost every line 2 or 3 4 times finally dropped $100 on a better rotary. I'll find out today if thats my issue.
Wat tattoo machine do u recommend for a beginner
I think the guy asking about the slowing of the needle during the cam rotation is referring to the bottom part of the needle stroke (and the top) as the needle slows to change direction. If you picture the rotational motion, and focus on the up /down velocity vector of the needle, the max up/down velocity would be midway through the stroke. Past that midway point, the up/down vector begins to slow down until velocity reaches zero (bottom of stroke), and then direction changes and the upward velocity begins to grow again. So based on that, the position of the needle would look like a mathematical sin wave over time, suggesting that the up /down motion of the needle builds up speed through the stroke and then slows to change direction.
If this understanding of the mechanics is correct, I'm also curious as to what considerations can be made in understanding different strokes and how this impacts the skin (no pun intended). My guess is that the longer strokes can build up higher needle speed, and a heavier hand can make sure the needle hits more mid stroke when velocity is peaked - all of this being able to push big groups and penetrate the skin easily. And I think that the slower velocity phase of different stroke lengths would be barely noticeable, so as long as the hand is light, any stroke length can do soft shading similarly. So... Longer stroke better for all rounder?
Thank you for this comment Christian! I will send this over to Franco and have him address it in a future episode of "Fridays with Franco" :)
ARMA GRIP!!!😮
These I pad artist don't know that feeling of perfect line work
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You sound like a salty hater
For a all around machine, what's suggested, main is tight lines, then everything else. Thanks
plenty of videos is already about that.... but the shader.
Can I use shader wand for 3, 5, 7 lining?
What ever works for you there is no law. Only what you let or stop yourself from doing
why dont you apply arma grip mechanism in bishop wand?
Dude I’m trying so hard lining with a rotary. I’m so close to going back to coils, I can’t get these lines I swear. I stretch like crazy too. Smh
Is it expensive to start sir any advice what is the best brand of machine legit ink power supply etc. Pls help me sir I know I can do it pls guide me sir I'm willing to learn and listen to your advice.
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My name is devin lundy from dallas tx my question is how do u explain throw
When I did a portrait was when I was 22 years ago . Then I started to get asked if I can do a portrait. AS A TATTOO. Am I ready to do it if I started tattooing this year .
Alden Arthur lol that’s something you have to answer yourself man.
A year in the future I can hear you
Whats the range of voltage for a wand packer?
Big fan of bishop ...but curious abt the wand packer can ..line smooth or not ...i m planning to get the packer
Yes :) It's an all-in-one machine. If you're comfortable with rotaries, you can shade, line, and color pack with the Packer Wand 👍
@@BishopTattooSupply can you line and shade with wand "shader"? If so what are the limitations compared with using the "packer" as an all-in-one? Thanks
Can I line and shade with wand shader
@@TheGally01 I believe you can at least iv not heard anything in reviews that say you can't they say the liner hits too hard to be a shader through
@@jediknight1294 I've since bought the neuma 4..absolute best machine for lining I've ever used..incredible
Franco is the man! Always super down to earth I TRIED TO SELL HIM A STERALIZER from JESSIE at BODY AND MIND. Mayne he'll remember me??? Awesome work and dope ass machines!!!
As far as I’m concerned pressure should never really be a factor if your machine hits hard enough it should do its job. As soon as I ever pressed harder because my rotary is shit (xion pen) the lines are just not great or their skin gets raised from jamming their skin. The problem with slowing the hand speed is everyone who tattoos their wrist are fricked and I just think taking longer is not good for my hands.
Yes I can here you gteet
Shame I missed the live show
Don't worry brother! You can tune in next Friday 😀
When are we getting the stainless steel grip for the Wand??
We will have updates on future episodes. Stay tuned! :)
Will surely buy Wand with stainless grip❤❤❤
I shade and pack better with coil and line better with rotary I love rotary machines
I don’t get accepted on the facebook family group😢
i got bishop shader its amazing. i am not paid just costumer but i love it
Wow the first video ive ever seen with one thumb down...nice...#BISHOPROTARY4LIFE!!!
Bring a 10mm liner machine for 100rl
The video wasnt sideways lol
Give definitely dosent mean much. My Xion spectra never works right on a harder or softer setting, only neutral