Enjoyed the education. Jordan rails are very important. Helps prevent a bad accident worse. Plus think about this. They also add more stability to sleepers there are some curves that they have them on around Knoxville tenn. Major forces on a rail that transfers down to a tie. Come down a hill dynamics wide open the train wants to go straight thus pushing that outside rail out
Thank you very much Jason for the very informative comment and coming from an engineer's perspective. You of all people understand the extreme stress a moving train puts on the track structure. Very much appreciate your checking out the channel tonight my good friend. Bet you would have loved pulling a train back in the day with loaded cattle cars! LOL
Many years ago I sold rail produced by Bethlehem Steel. You are the first and only person I have seen to accurately explain the letters following the weight per yard stamping. Most have no idea what they (and there are many different ones) actually mean. Thank you.
Wow what a very nice thing to say James. I'm flattered. Hope you are a subscriber and will watch the rail identification marks video, although it won't be out until next fall or winter. Gonna really go into detail in that one. I do have an FRA rail defect manual and it is quite extensive in all the markings that could be found on a rail, plus I have a very old Sperry book that adds even more info in. Wish we could get together and talk sometime. We have a good bit of Beth rails here, perhaps you may have been someone we bought from in the past. 18 years ago when I started track maintenance full time here, someone once told me the RE stood for relay rail and it was only until a few years ago I found out what it really meant. I got that relay rail ingrained in my head and still find myself on occasion looking at it and thinking relay.... :-)
FYI Open Hearth furnaces are where the batches of steel were made. They used combustion gases or liquid fuel to heat the steel. Open hearth furnaces were replaced by the electric arc furnaces that make batches of steel now using electricity.
Thank you very much for writing in with the info lakeshadow. According to the FRA handbook for track inspectors, open hearth is also 1 of 5 different methods of cooling rail. Back then they didn't have the controlled cooling of rail we now have. That method is no longer allowed for rails to be cooled. Do appreciate your checking out the show tonight my friend.
That was neat! my grand father worked at Bethlehem steel in Lackawanna NY. they made rail there in the roller mill section of the site. While the site I work at has some old rail. 1937 maryland piece, most was replaced in 2012, including switches, No8 with 115 rail nippon rail . I got to look at the other rail and see where it was made. I believe there are 9 switches on site, with a triple ladder near the end that hooks up with CSX which was NYC. right now the yard across the street they are talking of shutting down and use Niagara falls yard. That will screw everything up. I was told we were waiting for near 3 weeks for a specific car that was supposed to be delivered that day…. not so much on time..
Glad you enjoyed Barry and thanks for sharing that with us. Would have been cool for me to have talked with your grandpa. Appreciate your stopping by and checking out the video my friend.
Thank you Bering Strait Railway and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy. Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine: ua-cam.com/video/oOug0z34118/v-deo.html Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out. ua-cam.com/users/ccrx6700
They do try and help prevent it from going off the bridge Who Ever. Depends on the derailment, doesn't always work every single time. Thank you for watching and may you have a most blessed day my friend.
I have never seen a man like you Dave enjoying your job so much, good for you! Also, thanks for sharing all about railroading with us, it's quite informative for a senior like me just using H.O. train's. 👍
Thank you for the very kind words. Very much appreciated. HO trains are cool. I have a huge basement here and still have my HO from way back Santa gifts early 1960's. But have an autistic grand son. It would be torture for him to not be able to be around any kind of layout.
One of our branch lines in ohio the 85lb yard rail is dated Carnegie steel 1898 and still sees 2 to 3 trains a week! Its in decent shape all things considered but probably much slower speeds for trains than when it opened originally
That is very cool! It's also sad in a way. The US was the absolute undisputed champion of heavy industry until quite recently in the scheme of things. We built everything. From toasters to the biggest cargo ships on the oceans. Now, we can't even make our own medications. I better stop before I get started on an epic rant, lol. Have a good one.
Awesome! Sure wish I had a piece of that rail with the mill brand on it! And you can take that as a hint, my birthday is right around the corner. Thanks so much for writing in and for watching today my friend.
@@pamike4873 I totally agree with you about the decline of America. TLC and everything should last however today's crap not so lucky. RR do so much for Americans and America .
@@ccrx6700 I have a section of "U" rail and a piece of pear-head rail. Both of those were not rolled after the war between the states. I also have a piece of girder rail from trolley track in the street and a piece of 8 lb rail. Just for information, there were at least 27 different sections or patterns of 75 lb rail rolled. I have a small book put out by a scrapping company of almost every rail section rolled, 1 9/16 to 8 inches tall.
Great video Dave, great content on this one, kinda knew the guard rail, but, im so glad you explained the wooden beam on the edge of the bridge. Didnt know it was used to keep them from skewing. Thats awesome. And the old rail add in was great. Predates the mine by a long shot. Thats cool stuff right there.
Great video as usual, Dave! You are a very gracious host for sharing your enthusiasm for and knowledge about the railroad. I always look forward to your next release!
Does guard rail have to be new rail or can it be old, used rail that got replaced somewhere on the line? It seems to me that since it's not intended for the wheels to ride on top of it that old scrap rails could be used and save some money.
Thank you a thorough and understandable (to a non-railroader) explanation. I noticed the extra rails in the past and wondered why they were there. Now I know. Thank you again!
You are certainly welcome Kevin, glad to hear you enjoyed and we do want to say how much we appreciate your writing in and for watching the video my friend.
Thanks for another informative video, Dave. I learned about guard rails from my HO-scale model bridges that had them and kept my model cars from falling off the bridges during derailments. It's still nice though to get a pro to explain them to those who don't know. I noticed years ago by watching videos that Norfolk Southern doesn't seem to subscribe to the use of GR's, and NS has many long, high, curved, high speed bridges. My blood would run cold if I were an engineer or conductor on an NS train and had to cross those bridges. I mean if a rail were to break or spread the gauge under the lead truck of a locomotive, there would be nothing from keeping it from immediately drifting all the way over and dropping the wheels on the outside from falling off the side of the bridge ties....game over for the crew! I would think that guard rails are always cheaper than the derailment clean up and the lawsuits that would follow, especially when deaths and chemical clean-ups are involved. Just my 2¢ on the rails.
You're very welcome Scotty, really glad you liked the show. I had not noticed that about NS, but no doubt your right. Someone who worked there once told me NS stood for No Sense.....LOL You are totally right in your thinking, I certainly agree with you there my friend.
What a great video⚠️ I used to wonder on those inner rails but never asked why. Now, thanks to you, I've learned some more good information. I also appreciate you translating the markings and codes on the rails. I'm going to watch more of your presentations. Thank you so much, my friend! (P.S.) love your words of "happy rails to you."😁
I'm not a railroader but I enjoy watching your videos. You have a pleasing personality and I like the way you describe what you do. I also like hearing about the line operation in general and what's going on with. Have a super great day!
Thank you very much TR for the very nice comment. I understand a big part of my viewers are not railroaders and try to talk about things in a way that is easy for everyone to understand. We really appreciate your checking out the video and being part of our channel tonight my friend.
That rail was made right before the great depression. We still use the PRR standards as the old school signals were wired as per standard. And you need to find which one. Use that when we rewire or hang a replacement position light signal. Now we have led bulbs!
Very good question Kenneth. it depends on what shape the rails are in. If they are worn, then yes replace them, but if there is no appreciable wear then we will keep them. Appreciate your taking the time to write in and for watching the movie today my friend.
Very informative. It might be fun to watch some of the decking getting replaced. I'd like to know how it's done. Looking forward to the travel videos too. Thank you for giving us a glimpse into your world.
Thank you so much John for the very nice comment. We really appreciate all the excellent support you have given the channel my friend. Got a video out sometime this summer on taking new bridge timbers down there. However it may be next year before they get replaced. Under ground here had some serious major problems last month and they only ran 12 trains the whole month, so money is tight right now and bridge deck replacement on back burner. You know I will do what I can to make a video when it does happen tho.
Thanks, many questions answered. If these guard rails work, and they are made from old 'used' rail, as rail is retired is there ever any thought given to installing it as guard rail in other places, like where the bed is on top of a fill, so to control a derailment better? Or would that guard rail get in the way of routine track work? I'm glad that you mentioned what OH stands for, as I was trying to think where there was a Steeltown in Ohio. Good stuff
Some RR's do install the guard rails on sharp degree curves, although that is more of a common thing in the UK and some other countries than it is here in USA. Big problem with that is the guard rails on a curve would have to be really close together in order for my tamping tools to miss them as they go down into the ballast on the insides of the rails. The closer they are the less effective the guard rails then become. You are correct there used to be a rolling mill in Steelton Oh. And when I first say this thought perhaps that was what the OH stood for, however that night checked my FRA track identification manual and it said the OH was open hearth method of cooling, so we will go with the info the FRA provides. Appreciate your writing in and watching my friend.
Had once been a specialty built here in Chicago along our elevated/electric “L/EL” Rapid Transit lines Of course we have one slightly raised single rail supplying 600 volts some foot outside the gauged parallels. Being elevated 100% of the time, everything you mentioned to prevent catastrophic derailing has become common place, and we certainly have had our share of unique derailments. Along the middle between two sets of tracks which so heavily patena'd, looks like a ghost set which if so had not been used in more than half a century and would obviously have been different gauge. Well I finally found out the other day that indeed ghost rails had been built as special use trackage.
Oldest rail I've ever seen was 1914, on the London &Port Stanley Railway. That was likely in the late 60's. The Railway became a spur when it was abandoned between Port Stanley and St.Thomas, and the London to St. Thomas section was used to service the Ford plant, and a few other industries. Not long after all the old track was replaced sometime in the mid to late 70's.
I love that old rail Rod. Got some pics of rail tolled in late 1800's will share with you sometime, that rail is not on our RR tho, it's mid Pa. my friend from Frontier took it out of a yard last year. Thanks for writing in and for watching today my friend.
This section St. Thomas to Port is still in use by the Port Stanley Terminal Rail. So is some of the old rail that our Tourist trains use. The PSTR has replaced all of the rail in the road crossings with 100lb. The Ford Plant was not serviced by the L&PS. the plant is gone but most of the heavy rail and yards remain unused. St. Thomas to London has a fair amount of train traffic. used by CN for various car loadings from industry on the line.
@@georgehowlett7023 , Yeah, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that, and the St. Thomas RR Museum before here. I lose track (ha) sometimes and I am trying not to be the old guy that repeats stories. :) Still using those 1914 rails? Wow.
Wow! What great information! My grandfather worked on railroads for 44 years and I have loved trains my entire life. You give us information many of us have wondered about for years and I thank you for that!
Great video! I hope you will film the changing of this bridge deck. That would be really fascinating! Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I enjoy your genuine enthusiasm for your job and all the little details.
Really glad you enjoyed Winston, I will try my best to be there when they change the deck, but there is never any guarantee I can, we shall see. Do appreciate your stopping by today my friend.
Another great video and tutorial Dave! I personally have learned a lot from you since being a subscriber of your channel. There's so much to learn abt railroading and having someone as knowledgeable as you makes understanding what's discussed that much easier to comprehend. We're very fortunate to be part of your channel and to have a teacher like you! You definitely make railroading fun and interesting and always look forward to seeing your next video! Thanks again Dave for sharing your videos with us along with your time and effort my friend!
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie Shawn. We do appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend, and for being such a faithful supporter of this channel.
Great video. Some further thoughts: On through girder bridges the inner track guard rails also serve the function of keeping derailed wheels on the timbers, thus keeping the car body from striking the bridge structure and causing damage to the bridge. Some railroads have removed these guardrails permanently because: it's difficult to tamp the approaches, which need it often; the timbers get spike killed and shorten their life; as ties/timber get old these guards can be knocked out of place easily and become non-effective in the case of derailment.
Thank you very much for sharing that Joe! Us not having a bridge like that here, that reason had never entered my mind, so glad you wrote in with that.
As always Dave, I learn so many interesting things from watching your videos! I find that the best teachers are people that enjoy their work and take great pride in their craft. You are precisely that type of person Dave. God bless!
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie Alex. We do appreciate your very nice comment and for watching my friend and for your faithful support of this channel.
Here in Oregon, we have lots of rail. I always wanted to know the story behind those things. First time viewer. Great job. Another thing I can point out to my family when on a road trip. No wonder I have seen so many of these guard rails along I-84 between Ontario Oregon & Portland. 400 miles. Also Baker City, LaGrande, Pendleton, Boardman and The mighty Columbia River.
Wow awesome video Dave, very interesting! I know the big trestle over the Yough River that Wheeling & Lake Erie runs doesn’t have guard rails, the ties on the trestle were all replaced about 2 years ago but they never put the guard rails back in and that trestle is 160ft high! And wow 1928 rail that’s awesome! Oldest I’ve ever seen was 1943 and still in use on W&LE. Great video Dave!👍🏼😎🇺🇸
Thank you very much Stretch Limo, really glad you enjoyed tonight's presentation my friend. That is the bridge at Speers you are talking about right? W&LE approached Frontier RR several years ago about putting in new timbers on that bridge, but it was so high up nobody wanted to work on it. That bridge is way up there! Oh how I wish I could catch a train going over it someday!!!!
@@ccrx6700 No I’m talking about the one that goes over the Yough River at Banning/ Jacobs Creek, same line only about 8-9miles east of the one your talking about at Speers, the Speers trestle is even taller/longer than the one I’m talking about, couldn’t imagine working on them!
As much as all Rail Roads preach Safety, they seem to cut corners at times! Once in an interview Wendy's founder Dave Thomas was asked "Why are Wendy's Hamburger Patty's square?" To which Dave's reply was "Because Wendy's doesn't cut corners!"
You are very correct in that statement irongoatrocky, sadly. As always we do appreciate your writing in and for watching and all the great support you have given us my friend.
Yes it is Paul. Only 3 mills left in US that still roll rail, sadly. We get all our new rail from Steelton Pa. which is about 5 hours away from us. Steelton is owned by Arcelor Mittal which is a Dutch/India owned company however.They are the largest steel manufacturer in the world currently. Very much want to say Thank You for taking in tonight's presentation my friend.
Hey Dave. I gotta say I wanted to be an engineer since I was 3 years old. Never went that route as a career. I always wanted to know stuff about the railroad. but I guess unless you do it you never get to learn railroading. So I absloutly love watching your videos. Thank you so much for posting these teaching and learning sessions. Awesome.
Thanks so much Troy for the very nice comment, that was special for me to read. I'm very pleased to hear you are enjoying the home movies. We really appreciate your watching them my friend.
Last year I was binging on "cab view" videos in Switzerland and Norway railways and I would often see these rails on some bridges and not others and often on straight stretches of rail for no apparent reason. Several times I left comments asking the purpose of those rails hoping someone would be able to answer the question but no one ever did. So glad YT recommended this video because you finally answered my question. Thank you. 🙂
I must say, your memory is amazing! To remember a wheel going off on that specific piece of track and that specific issue, man. You probably have more knowledge of what's happened on that track than the log books do!
Well thank you some beach, but had you been there as I was and saw those loaded cars over the hill sideways, it's something you would never forget either. It was very ugly! And you are right about the knowledge, I don't know a lot about much of anything, but I am the world's foremost expert on this particular RR. And that comes simply because I have been here on track the longest of anyone. And with all that knowledge, guess what? It doesn't pay a single cent more per hour than a guy here that just started....LOL
Thank you hugoknight1 and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy. Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine: ua-cam.com/video/oOug0z34118/v-deo.html Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out. ua-cam.com/users/ccrx6700
So interesting! I never knew the purpose of the timbers along the edges of the ties ok bridges. Also very interesting about the issue of soft roadbed on bridge approaches. I’d never thought about it before, but it’s obviously important: the bridge abutment will be concrete and not prone to any movement at all, so the track needs to be super-stable in the run-up to it. So strange that they didn’t want to put guard rails on the recently replaced decking: I’d think that it would be a small incremental cost, while they were once re-doing the decking. 🤔
Very good analysis of the exact issues we have on bridge approaches Dave. I know they didn't put them on the last 3 cause of money issues, we were a financially troubled company when those decks got replaced. Really appreciate your nice comment and for stopping by today my friend.
Very informative, especially since i don't see them here in michigan. we have thick steel bridge sides that go up past the rails acting as a barrier. I also like the stories about the derailments.
Very informative and interesting video. But I have to say that at the beginning I was a bit confused when you said it's 70° until I remembered that the US uses °Fahrenheit. :D And I was surprised to hear that in the US the Atlantic is also referred to as the great pond.
Pond is purely my invention Capitaen_Protron. Pleased to hear you had a good time watching despite our differences in terminology. But you got it figured out. Appreciate your taking the time to write in and for watching today my friend across the pond neighbor.
You are very welcome some beach. Wish I could meet you also. Really appreciate your very nice comment and for taking in the home movie today my friend.
Interesting stuff for railway geeks. When I waited for a London Underground I often wondered what the additional rails were for. They have a fair few tight bends some of which used to give a good screech. The inner guard rail was only a few inches away from the running rail.
Great history and lessons in track design and maintenance :) It is cool to know some of the history so when you see those cut ends on the guard rails, you know it was done so you could get a tamper/cribber in to deal with the softness on the bridge approaches. Nice!
Hi David , any chance of explaining to the folks why ballast goes soft at the ends of a bridge or level crossing . I know, but some of the other folks my not know why . Hint , springs & pot holes .
Dave. How many lengths of damaged rail do you have . From the big derailment last year. The inner rails on bridges dont need to have good top surfaces. Just to be there for emergencies to keep the trucks strait. Without track plates that would put them half an inch shorter than the main rails and the cost is cheap to use them other than loss of the scrap price unless Hulcher hauled away the derailed sections as part of the contract.. it's just a thought. Even if you only added a single rail to the inside of curves like this bridge till you could stockpile more.
That is an excellent thought Wayne and I have enough scrapped rail to cover every one of our bridges if needed. That very well may be a good fall project this year since we won't have our brush cutter back this year and we should have some time, just need a few extra helping hands. Do so appreciate your writing in with the great idea and for watching today my friend.
Thank you Dave for explaining the inside rail (Bridge Rail). A few weeks ago I had ask you what those inside rails were use for from another video and you graciously and some people also responded with what the purpose was for...... Love your videos...... And "Happy Railroading to you".
Guard rails are never tested when the ultrasonic testers come in Trainguy5634. And unfortionately they are not planning on putting the guard rails back on the bridges they took them off of. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Very good description of the guard rail. In place and you hope you don't have to use it and thousands of tons pass over it daily but not on it. I see you have a fairly wide walkway which is helpful in maintenance or if you have to replace a knuckle. Plenty of bridges in upper Michigan and Minnesta with heavy side shields to keep taconite from raining down on your car. Just saw a 🎥 on a grain train which derailed and luckily the wooden edge kept it upright and they were able to pull it back on the tracks. For some good big bridge scenes and work zones (plus the mega crane they moved in to work on it) check out Grain Express for then last month. Even an aerial view of a rail grinder at night. So an A+ for today's track construction!
Thank you so much for the A +, now where can I send you an apple...LOL We do thank you Paul for watching and writing in with the very nice and informative comment.
@@ccrx6700 You have been doing excellent stuff for years! You seen to enjoy your work and explain things in detail that cannot be found in many places. Your smile and laugh is infectious. Please keep it up!
I was just thinking about this topic the other day. Guard rails on bridges seem to be a rarity now especially on class one railroads. It seems they are inspected more often so derailments are less likely. However it would still be a good idea to install guard rails for some extra insurance. I don't think concrete ties have the option for guard rails.
Thanks for writing in and sharing that Tom. I've been hearing from others also about the lack of guard rails on Class 1's. That kinda amazes me. Do appreciate your stopping by and checking out the video today my friend.
Makes sense on cutting the guard rails closer to abutments to be able to tamp. Otherwise they should of ran concrete footings out from abutments to support the ties, lessen settlement, and been able to run your guards farther out. Enjoyed your guard rail back history talk. Cause I always wondered why some of your bridges didn’t have them.
Thank you very much for the nice comment Vicious. And, I do know that you are right for the last 3 bridge decks we have replaced why the guard rails weren't put in because they wanted to save a few dollars. I'm not happy bout that, but lot of factors went into those decisions. Last company that owned us cut our track budget 25% because they knew they were getting out and selling out mine.
That's great to hear you enjoyed watching 4ever dc. Really appreciate your very nice comment and for getting tickets to the home movie today my friend.
Your welcome Jon. Steelton in Ohio is not related to Steelton Pa. At Pa. The rolling mill in Pa. is owned by Arcelor Mittal and is only 1 of 3 rail rolling mills in the US that now exists. If memory serves me the Ohio Steelton is near Columbus and used to roll rail and make train car wheels? Correct me if I'm wrong in that. Really appreciate your checking out the channel tonight my friend.
Interesting history and I'm glad the powers that be let you make these videos. It's truly amazing that a rail from 1928 could look like it was made yesterday!
Dave really enjoy your videos your amazing attitude and sharing the vast experience and knowledge you have from 40+ years working on the railroad your podcast should have at least 100k subscribers come on people if your watching subscribe keep up the great work Dave !!!!!
Hopefully Gene I can do that. The timbers are now laying along side the rail on the other side of this bridge. I will have a video out of them delivering the timbers and us taking them down there, but deck replacement is now on back burner. They had terrible problems under ground and we only ran 12 trains the entire month so money is tight right now. Problems are getting solved and they are running decent now, but now we gotta find some dead track time to do the deck.
Loved it, Dave! I've always wondered about those "guard rails" on the bridges. Where is Bridge No. 8? I couldn't figure out its location from the video (my mind isn't as sharp!). I can't wait for your four-part series on riding the railroad! It it will bring back great memories of my ride with Rodney!!
Glad you enjoyed Pete! Bridge 8 is over Falls Hollow Rd. We will go over it in the 3rd video on the track ride. Do appreciate all the great support you are giving the channel my friend.
Thanks for the informative video Dave! I watch a lot of railroad videos, and have seen a derailment of a train on a long bridge and the subsequent rerailing of the train using cranes from the ground. That was an open topped bridge. How do they deal with card that derail on a trestle or no access from below? I guess they would need to pull the cars to the other end of the bridge?
You are absolutely correct Mojo. If they cannot be re railed on the bridge, then yep pull them off the bridge. Same thing in a tunnel. Easy Peasy.... LOL Appreciate your tuning in to the show my good friend.
Back in the 70's, when I was a young teen, we were snowmobiling on the abandoned railroad track beside the New Haven canal here in northern CT. As we reached the bridge by the old quarry, we all saw the bottom of my dad's sled when his skis became wedged on those guard rails. No one was hurt, we tag teamed the sled free, and were on our way. I've wondered what those inner rails were for since then and stumbled on the answer today. Thanks Dave.
Dave, as always I enjoyed your educational railroading video. You know the history of the railroad and coal company so it makes your videos interesting for me. You are a great ambassador for the Cumberland mine. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much Thomas for the very nice comment. We're very pleased to hear you are enjoying and we so do appreciate the support you have given us my friend.
Appreciate the information Dave it’s amazing I enjoy listening to the information you impart never have traveled by train in the states, more in the UK but even then never knew the ins and outs of maintaining a railroad, thank you very much for taking the time to inform.
Very well explained Dave and I learnt something too, about those side timbers which we do not use here. Love the old rail, it makes me think what trains ran over it all those years ago. Some of our rail is pretty old but I never saw any as old as that. we still have some signalling equipment in use from those times with castings that show the old companies names.
Really great to hear you liked the presentation cedarcam. We do appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend. Sure wish I could see some of those castings! That would be awesome for me.
@@ccrx6700 Sadly unlike you I never took my cam to record them Looking back I wish I had. I think somewhere I have a photo in a switch tower (Signal box) that had some dated castings in. I will see if I can find that some day and put it on my channel. I bought two signalling block section instruments when one box we had closed and not sure if they have a date stamped into the wood. I know one has L&Y which was Lancashire and Yorkshire and it was 1923 when that company ceased.
Thank you very much Donald for the very nice comment. You've been with us a long time now and I am trying to constantly get better at making these. We really do appreciate all the wonderful support you have given us my friend.
Well golly gee.... what an exceptionally nice thing to say. I'm flattered. I understand, far more than you may think, how nice it would be to work with competent people. We may be in the same boat my friend.
Your very welcome Truth Provider, glad you had a good time watching tonight. Do really appreciate your taking the time to write in and watch the presentation my friend.
Hi Dave, another fascinating video, thanks! How does a 1928 vintage rail stick get into a rail line built in the 90's? Is it NOS or maybe repurposed from another location? It's never used so it could last forever, right?
Thank you so much for the very nice comment Dean. Very good question. The guard rail no doubt was once used on another RR, then when it was deemed unfit for mainline service was sold as scrap rail. So it is cheap to buy up and use for the bridge guard rails. also FYI, our RR was built in 1975/76
Got some even older stuff to show you too sometime Eric. You are so right, a lot of water over the dam since then. As always we do appreciate the great support you have given this channel my friend.
@@ccrx6700 That's why I am so fascinated by vintage stuff, because I think that every old piece and equipment has a story to tell! There has been so much change since 1928, it's just to crazy to think about how that rail has been around for over 90 years! Think, 1928 was the first year for the Ford model A!
Oh wow, chrome plated? I really doubt you could find those. We once tried to but stainless steel spikes to use around our high coal spillage areas but they were astronomically expensive. Best thing to do is get a spike and chrome it yourself. Thanks for writing in and for taking in the video tonight my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I have a couple of rusty, very old spikes. I ground the rust off. I think the surface could accept some electroplating. I'll give it a try. Thanks.
@@thomasboese3793 Good idea. There is a paint used to refinish automotive tail light reflectors. It is a bright silver, mirror finish. I'll try that. Thanks.
You are certainly welcome. They tell me that you guys also use check rails on some very high degree curves. Appreciate your stopping by today and for taking the time to write in my friend.
Dave, great history lesson!! Thanks for sharing the information. It is always fun to see what you are going to bring us next. Fun to learn why things are the way they are. Take care!!
Thanks for the educational video. Congratulations on 45 years (in about 2 mo's) of being on the rails. That is a really long time. Lots of changes seen I'm sure.
You are very welcome Brian. I do love to tell the history of this place. Most of the old guys here have retired and or are deceased, so at least the history now will be saved for posterity. Really appreciate your very nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Your certainly welcome and thank you Rick for watching and writing in with the very nice comment. You know what, that would have made for a very interesting addition to the video about the steam running over it, dang it Rick why didn't you write in before I made this video and say that..... LOL You are so right and now you got my mind thinking and next video I make on the old Carnegie rail I will remember to say that, I hope, but you better keep reminding me!!!
Thank you very much Kurt. We're really glad to hear you enjoyed the home movie today and do appreciate all the great support you continue to give to this channel my friend.
Thank you so much for this informative video. I've hung around trains since I was 5 and wondered about those guard rails. I figured they were to keep the trucks on the bridge but never found documentation about it. Much oblige!
Enjoyed the education. Jordan rails are very important. Helps prevent a bad accident worse. Plus think about this. They also add more stability to sleepers there are some curves that they have them on around Knoxville tenn. Major forces on a rail that transfers down to a tie. Come down a hill dynamics wide open the train wants to go straight thus pushing that outside rail out
Thank you very much Jason for the very informative comment
and coming from an engineer's perspective. You of all people
understand the extreme stress a moving train puts on the track
structure. Very much appreciate your checking out the channel
tonight my good friend. Bet you would have loved pulling a train
back in the day with loaded cattle cars! LOL
@@ccrx6700 that would have been Interestijg haha
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I did NOT know for sure what they were for. BUT, based on movies & other videos , that was my best guess🤔.
Greetings from Sweden!
Many years ago I sold rail produced by Bethlehem Steel. You are the first and only person I have seen to accurately explain the letters following the weight per yard stamping. Most have no idea what they (and there are many different ones) actually mean. Thank you.
Wow what a very nice thing to say James. I'm flattered. Hope
you are a subscriber and will watch the rail identification marks
video, although it won't be out until next fall or winter. Gonna
really go into detail in that one. I do have an FRA rail defect manual
and it is quite extensive in all the markings that could be found
on a rail, plus I have a very old Sperry book that adds even more
info in. Wish we could get together and talk sometime. We have a
good bit of Beth rails here, perhaps you may have been someone
we bought from in the past.
18 years ago when I started track maintenance full time here, someone once told me the RE stood for relay rail and it was
only until a few years ago I found out what it really meant. I got
that relay rail ingrained in my head and still find myself on
occasion looking at it and thinking relay.... :-)
FYI Open Hearth furnaces are where the batches of steel were made. They used combustion gases or liquid fuel to heat the steel. Open hearth furnaces were replaced by the electric arc furnaces that make batches of steel now using electricity.
Thank you very much for writing in with the info lakeshadow. According to the FRA handbook for track inspectors, open hearth
is also 1 of 5 different methods of cooling rail. Back then they
didn't have the controlled cooling of rail we now have. That method is
no longer allowed for rails to be cooled. Do appreciate your
checking out the show tonight my friend.
That was neat! my grand father worked at Bethlehem steel in Lackawanna NY.
they made rail there in the roller mill section of the site. While
the site I work at has some old rail. 1937 maryland piece, most was replaced
in 2012, including switches, No8 with 115 rail nippon rail . I got to look at the other
rail and see where it was made. I believe there are 9 switches on site, with a triple
ladder near the end that hooks up with CSX which was NYC. right now the yard
across the street they are talking of shutting down and use Niagara falls yard.
That will screw everything up. I was told we were waiting for near 3 weeks
for a specific car that was supposed to be delivered that day…. not so much on time..
Glad you enjoyed Barry and thanks for sharing that with us.
Would have been cool for me to have talked with your grandpa.
Appreciate your stopping by and checking out the video my friend.
Thank you for posting this video!
You have another subscriber!
Thank you Bering Strait Railway and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy.
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I figured they must be for keeping the train from falling off of the track on a bridge. That would definitely suck more than a regular derailment.
They do try and help prevent it from going off the bridge Who Ever.
Depends on the derailment, doesn't always work every single time.
Thank you for watching and may you have a most blessed day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Glad it helps at least some of the time!
Inner and outer guard rail
Thanks for stopping by and taking in the video my friend.
I have never seen a man like you Dave enjoying your job so much, good for you! Also, thanks for sharing all about railroading with us, it's quite informative for a senior like me just using H.O. train's. 👍
Thank you for the very kind words. Very much appreciated.
HO trains are cool. I have a huge basement here and still have
my HO from way back Santa gifts early 1960's. But have
an autistic grand son. It would be torture for him to not be able
to be around any kind of layout.
@@ccrx6700 If the trains help you to reach him, that's outstanding.
Thanks for explaining the things a lot of Viewers have wondered about for many years. Helps us better understand the Railroad. Thank you. 👍🙏
You are certainly welcome Ken. We really appreciate your very nice comment and for checking out the presentation tonight my friend.
One of our branch lines in ohio the 85lb yard rail is dated Carnegie steel 1898 and still sees 2 to 3 trains a week! Its in decent shape all things considered but probably much slower speeds for trains than when it opened originally
That is very cool! It's also sad in a way. The US was the absolute undisputed champion of heavy industry until quite recently in the scheme of things. We built everything. From toasters to the biggest cargo ships on the oceans. Now, we can't even make our own medications. I better stop before I get started on an epic rant, lol. Have a good one.
Awesome! Sure wish I had a piece of that rail with the mill brand
on it! And you can take that as a hint, my birthday is right around
the corner. Thanks so much for writing in and for watching today
my friend.
@@pamike4873 I totally agree with you about the decline of America. TLC and everything should last however today's crap not so lucky. RR do so much for Americans and America .
@@ccrx6700 I have a section of "U" rail and a piece of pear-head rail. Both of those were not rolled after the war between the states. I also have a piece of girder rail from trolley track in the street and a piece of 8 lb rail. Just for information, there were at least 27 different sections or patterns of 75 lb rail rolled. I have a small book put out by a scrapping company of almost every rail section rolled, 1 9/16 to 8 inches tall.
@@royreynolds108 😊👍
Great video Dave, great content on this one, kinda knew the guard rail, but, im so glad you explained the wooden beam on the edge of the bridge. Didnt know it was used to keep them from skewing. Thats awesome. And the old rail add in was great. Predates the mine by a long shot. Thats cool stuff right there.
Glad you enjoyed and learned something new Pappy. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Great video as usual, Dave! You are a very gracious host for sharing your enthusiasm for and knowledge about the railroad. I always look forward to your next release!
Golly Herb, what a very nice comment. It is much appreciated and
also for all the great support you are giving the channel my friend.
Does guard rail have to be new rail or can it be old, used rail that got replaced somewhere on the line? It seems to me that since it's not intended for the wheels to ride on top of it that old scrap rails could be used and save some money.
It's almost always old rail Bernhard just for the reason you said.
Do appreciate your watching today my friend.
Thank you a thorough and understandable (to a non-railroader) explanation. I noticed the extra rails in the past and wondered why they were there. Now I know. Thank you again!
You are certainly welcome Kevin, glad to hear you enjoyed and we
do want to say how much we appreciate your writing in and
for watching the video my friend.
Thanks for another informative video, Dave. I learned about guard rails from my HO-scale model bridges that had them and kept my model cars from falling off the bridges during derailments. It's still nice though to get a pro to explain them to those who don't know. I noticed years ago by watching videos that Norfolk Southern doesn't seem to subscribe to the use of GR's, and NS has many long, high, curved, high speed bridges. My blood would run cold if I were an engineer or conductor on an NS train and had to cross those bridges. I mean if a rail were to break or spread the gauge under the lead truck of a locomotive, there would be nothing from keeping it from immediately drifting all the way over and dropping the wheels on the outside from falling off the side of the bridge ties....game over for the crew! I would think that guard rails are always cheaper than the derailment clean up and the lawsuits that would follow, especially when deaths and chemical clean-ups are involved. Just my 2¢ on the rails.
You're very welcome Scotty, really glad you liked the show. I had
not noticed that about NS, but no doubt your right. Someone
who worked there once told me NS stood for No Sense.....LOL
You are totally right in your thinking, I certainly agree with you
there my friend.
What a great video⚠️ I used to wonder on those inner rails but never asked why. Now, thanks to you, I've learned some more good information. I also appreciate you translating the markings and codes on the rails. I'm going to watch more of your presentations. Thank you so much, my friend! (P.S.) love your words of "happy rails to you."😁
Awesome Victor, what a very nice comment. We really appreciate
your taking the time to write in and for watching my good man.
I'm not a railroader but I enjoy watching your videos. You have a pleasing personality and I like the way you describe what you do. I also like hearing about the line operation in general and what's going on with. Have a super great day!
Thank you very much TR for the very nice comment. I understand
a big part of my viewers are not railroaders and try to talk about
things in a way that is easy for everyone to understand. We really
appreciate your checking out the video and being part of our
channel tonight my friend.
That rail was made right before the great depression. We still use the PRR standards as the old school signals were wired as per standard. And you need to find which one. Use that when we rewire or hang a replacement position light signal. Now we have led bulbs!
Thank you Tuco for writing in and for watching the video today
my friend.
When you replace ties on the bridge do you replace the rails also or do you use the same ones? Thanx Ken from gpt ms.
Very good question Kenneth. it depends on what shape the rails
are in. If they are worn, then yes replace them, but if
there is no appreciable wear then we will keep them. Appreciate
your taking the time to write in and for watching the movie
today my friend.
Very informative. It might be fun to watch some of the decking getting replaced. I'd like to know how it's done. Looking forward to the travel videos too. Thank you for giving us a glimpse into your world.
Thank you so much John for the very nice comment. We really
appreciate all the excellent support you have given the channel
my friend. Got a video out sometime this summer on taking new
bridge timbers down there. However it may be next year before
they get replaced. Under ground here had some serious major
problems last month and they only ran 12 trains the whole month,
so money is tight right now and bridge deck replacement on
back burner. You know I will do what I can to make a video
when it does happen tho.
@@ccrx6700 I appreciate you letting me know. I certainly get why it'll take time to see it. All of your videos are cool to watch.
Thanks, many questions answered. If these guard rails work, and they are made from old 'used' rail, as rail is retired is there ever any thought given to installing it as guard rail in other places, like where the bed is on top of a fill, so to control a derailment better? Or would that guard rail get in the way of routine track work? I'm glad that you mentioned what OH stands for, as I was trying to think where there was a Steeltown in Ohio. Good stuff
Some RR's do install the guard rails on sharp degree curves,
although that is more of a common thing in the UK and some
other countries than it is here in USA. Big problem with that is
the guard rails on a curve would have to be really close
together in order for my tamping tools to miss them as they
go down into the ballast on the insides of the rails. The closer
they are the less effective the guard rails then become.
You are correct there used to be a rolling mill in Steelton Oh. And
when I first say this thought perhaps that was what the OH stood
for, however that night checked my FRA track identification
manual and it said the OH was open hearth method of cooling,
so we will go with the info the FRA provides. Appreciate
your writing in and watching my friend.
Had once been a specialty built here in Chicago along our elevated/electric “L/EL” Rapid Transit lines Of course we have one slightly raised single rail supplying 600 volts some foot outside the gauged parallels. Being elevated 100% of the time, everything you mentioned to prevent catastrophic derailing has become common place, and we certainly have had our share of unique derailments. Along the middle between two sets of tracks which so heavily patena'd, looks like a ghost set which if so had not been used in more than half a century and would obviously have been different gauge.
Well I finally found out the other day that indeed ghost rails had been built as special use trackage.
Thanks for writing in and sharing with us Concertmanchicago.
We do appreciate your stopping by and taking in the video my good man.
Yes, I always wondered why the extra tracks were there. Now I know the rest of the story. Thanks Dave!!
You are very welcome darnoldie. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for checking out today's home movie my friend.
Oldest rail I've ever seen was 1914, on the London &Port Stanley Railway. That was likely in the late 60's. The Railway became a spur when it was abandoned between Port Stanley and St.Thomas, and the London to St. Thomas section was used to service the Ford plant, and a few other industries. Not long after all the old track was replaced sometime in the mid to late 70's.
I love that old rail Rod. Got some pics of rail tolled in late 1800's will
share with you sometime, that rail is not on our RR tho, it's mid Pa.
my friend from Frontier took it out of a yard last year. Thanks for
writing in and for watching today my friend.
This section St. Thomas to Port is still in use by the Port Stanley Terminal Rail. So is some of the old rail that our Tourist trains use. The PSTR has replaced all of the rail in the road crossings with 100lb. The Ford Plant was not serviced by the L&PS. the plant is gone but most of the heavy rail and yards remain unused. St. Thomas to London has a fair amount of train traffic. used by CN for various car loadings from industry on the line.
@@georgehowlett7023 , Yeah, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that, and the St. Thomas RR Museum before here. I lose track (ha) sometimes and I am trying not to be the old guy that repeats stories. :) Still using those 1914 rails? Wow.
Wow! What great information! My grandfather worked on railroads for 44 years and I have loved trains my entire life. You give us information many of us have wondered about for years and I thank you for that!
You are certainly welcome Don. Really appreciate your writing in
with the very nice comment my friend.
Great video!
I hope you will film the changing of this bridge deck. That would be really fascinating!
Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I enjoy your genuine enthusiasm for your job and all the little details.
Really glad you enjoyed Winston, I will try my best to be there when
they change the deck, but there is never any guarantee I can, we shall
see. Do appreciate your stopping by today my friend.
Another great video and tutorial Dave! I personally have learned a lot from you since being a subscriber of your channel. There's so much to learn abt railroading and having someone as knowledgeable as you makes understanding what's discussed that much easier to comprehend. We're very fortunate to be part of your channel and to have a teacher like you! You definitely make railroading fun and interesting and always look forward to seeing your next video! Thanks again Dave for sharing your videos with us along with your time and effort my friend!
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie Shawn. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend,
and for being such a faithful supporter of this channel.
Great video. Some further thoughts:
On through girder bridges the inner track guard rails also serve the function of keeping derailed wheels on the timbers, thus keeping the car body from striking the bridge structure and causing damage to the bridge.
Some railroads have removed these guardrails permanently because: it's difficult to tamp the approaches, which need it often; the timbers get spike killed and shorten their life; as ties/timber get old these guards can be knocked out of place easily and become non-effective in the case of derailment.
Thank you very much for sharing that Joe! Us not having a bridge
like that here, that reason had never entered my mind, so glad you
wrote in with that.
As always Dave, I learn so many interesting things from watching your videos! I find that the best teachers are people that enjoy their work and take great pride in their craft. You are precisely that type of person Dave. God bless!
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie Alex. We do
appreciate your very nice comment and for watching my friend
and for your faithful support of this channel.
Here in Oregon, we have lots of rail. I always wanted to know the story behind those things. First time viewer. Great job. Another thing I can point out to my family when on a road trip. No wonder I have seen so many of these guard rails along I-84 between Ontario Oregon & Portland. 400 miles. Also Baker City, LaGrande, Pendleton, Boardman and The mighty Columbia River.
Glad you enjoyed watching the video floraspec. We really appreciate
your tuning in and for sending the very nice comment my good man.
Wow awesome video Dave, very interesting! I know the big trestle over the Yough River that Wheeling & Lake Erie runs doesn’t have guard rails, the ties on the trestle were all replaced about 2 years ago but they never put the guard rails back in and that trestle is 160ft high! And wow 1928 rail that’s awesome! Oldest I’ve ever seen was 1943 and still in use on W&LE. Great video Dave!👍🏼😎🇺🇸
Thank you very much Stretch Limo, really glad you enjoyed tonight's
presentation my friend. That is the bridge at Speers you are talking
about right? W&LE approached Frontier RR several years ago
about putting in new timbers on that bridge, but it was so high
up nobody wanted to work on it. That bridge is way up there!
Oh how I wish I could catch a train going over it someday!!!!
@@ccrx6700 No I’m talking about the one that goes over the Yough River at Banning/ Jacobs Creek, same line only about 8-9miles east of the one your talking about at Speers, the Speers trestle is even taller/longer than the one I’m talking about, couldn’t imagine working on them!
@@stretchlimo7275 okay thanks cas aront recall seeing that one? Hmmm means a road trip 😊
As much as all Rail Roads preach Safety, they seem to cut corners at times!
Once in an interview Wendy's founder Dave Thomas was asked "Why are Wendy's Hamburger Patty's square?"
To which Dave's reply was "Because Wendy's doesn't cut corners!"
You are very correct in that statement irongoatrocky, sadly.
As always we do appreciate your writing in and for watching and
all the great support you have given us my friend.
Nice to see some rail products are still made in the GOOD OL' US OF A, instead of some foreign country!
Yes it is Paul. Only 3 mills left in US that still roll rail, sadly. We
get all our new rail from Steelton Pa. which is about 5 hours away from us. Steelton is owned by Arcelor Mittal which is a Dutch/India
owned company however.They are the largest steel manufacturer
in the world currently. Very much want to say Thank You for
taking in tonight's presentation my friend.
@@ccrx6700 i dont know if its still in operation, but Granite City Steel is about 2 hours from where i live.
@@paulsmith5398 pueblo now ran by Evraz i believe Paul
VERY COOL AND THANK YOU ,,INTERESTING..STAY WELL
You are very welcome Ralph Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Hey Dave. I gotta say I wanted to be an engineer since I was 3 years old. Never went that route as a career. I always wanted to know stuff about the railroad. but I guess unless you do it you never get to learn railroading. So I absloutly love watching your videos. Thank you so much for posting these teaching and learning sessions. Awesome.
Thanks so much Troy for the very nice comment, that was special
for me to read. I'm very pleased to hear you are enjoying the home
movies. We really appreciate your watching them my friend.
Last year I was binging on "cab view" videos in Switzerland and Norway railways and I would often see these rails on some bridges and not others and often on straight stretches of rail for no apparent reason. Several times I left comments asking the purpose of those rails hoping someone would be able to answer the question but no one ever did.
So glad YT recommended this video because you finally answered my question. Thank you. 🙂
You are welcome Ellesmere. We do appreciate your stopping by
and watching the video my friend.
I must say, your memory is amazing! To remember a wheel going off on that specific piece of track and that specific issue, man. You probably have more knowledge of what's happened on that track than the log books do!
Well thank you some beach, but had you been there as I was and
saw those loaded cars over the hill sideways, it's something you
would never forget either. It was very ugly! And you are right about
the knowledge, I don't know a lot about much of anything, but
I am the world's foremost expert on this particular RR. And that
comes simply because I have been here on track the longest of
anyone. And with all that knowledge, guess what? It doesn't
pay a single cent more per hour than a guy here that just started....LOL
Awesome informational video Dave!
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie Rick. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.
Just discovered your site. GREAT content! I love getting educated on all things about trains! You now have a new subscriber.
Thank you hugoknight1 and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy.
Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine:
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So interesting! I never knew the purpose of the timbers along the edges of the ties ok bridges. Also very interesting about the issue of soft roadbed on bridge approaches. I’d never thought about it before, but it’s obviously important: the bridge abutment will be concrete and not prone to any movement at all, so the track needs to be super-stable in the run-up to it.
So strange that they didn’t want to put guard rails on the recently replaced decking: I’d think that it would be a small incremental cost, while they were once re-doing the decking. 🤔
Very good analysis of the exact issues we have on bridge approaches Dave. I know they didn't put them on the last 3 cause of money
issues, we were a financially troubled company when those decks
got replaced. Really appreciate your nice comment and for
stopping by today my friend.
Very informative, especially since i don't see them here in michigan. we have thick steel bridge sides that go up past the rails acting as a barrier. I also like the stories about the derailments.
Really glad you liked watching the presentation tonight Arkay.
Can't thank you enough for tuning in to the channel my friend.
Dave you are a vast wealth of information! I loved the video and learned a lot, thanks. Can`t wait for the next one.
Glad you found the movie to be of value Wilbur. Really appreciate your very nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Very informative and interesting video. But I have to say that at the beginning I was a bit confused when you said it's 70° until I remembered that the US uses °Fahrenheit. :D And I was surprised to hear that in the US the Atlantic is also referred to as the great pond.
Pond is purely my invention Capitaen_Protron. Pleased to hear
you had a good time watching despite our differences in
terminology. But you got it figured out. Appreciate your taking
the time to write in and for watching today my friend across
the pond neighbor.
Thanks for the video, very informative. Love you and your content and wish I could shake your hand. God speed.
You are very welcome some beach. Wish I could meet you also.
Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the home movie today my friend.
Interesting stuff for railway geeks. When I waited for a London Underground I often wondered what the additional rails were for. They have a fair few tight bends some of which used to give a good screech. The inner guard rail was only a few inches away from the running rail.
Glad you enjoyed the presentation Trevor. We very much
appreciate your tuning in and watching my friend.
Great history and lessons in track design and maintenance :) It is cool to know some of the history so when you see those cut ends on the guard rails, you know it was done so you could get a tamper/cribber in to deal with the softness on the bridge approaches. Nice!
Thank you very much Brian for the very nice comment. We do
so appreciate your stopping by and checking out the video
my friend.
Hi David , any chance of explaining to the folks why ballast goes soft at the ends of a bridge or level crossing . I know, but some of the other folks my not know why . Hint , springs & pot holes .
I will do that in some future video Philip, excellent suggestion
and I always appreciate hearing what others are wanting to see.
Dave. How many lengths of damaged rail do you have . From the big derailment last year. The inner rails on bridges dont need to have good top surfaces. Just to be there for emergencies to keep the trucks strait. Without track plates that would put them half an inch shorter than the main rails and the cost is cheap to use them other than loss of the scrap price unless Hulcher hauled away the derailed sections as part of the contract.. it's just a thought. Even if you only added a single rail to the inside of curves like this bridge till you could stockpile more.
That is an excellent thought Wayne and I have enough scrapped
rail to cover every one of our bridges if needed. That very well may
be a good fall project this year since we won't have our brush
cutter back this year and we should have some time, just need
a few extra helping hands. Do so appreciate your writing in with
the great idea and for watching today my friend.
Great video Dave, great to learn!!! Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍👍👍
You are very welcome Ron. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Thank you Dave for explaining the inside rail (Bridge Rail). A few weeks ago I had ask you what those inside rails were use for from another video and you graciously and some people also responded with what the purpose was for...... Love your videos...... And "Happy Railroading to you".
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You are very welcome Bruce. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for checking out today's home movie my friend.
Any plans to add guard rails back to bridges with them? Are guard rails tested like main rails for defects?
Guard rails are never tested when the ultrasonic testers come in Trainguy5634. And unfortionately they are not planning on putting
the guard rails back on the bridges they took them off of. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Very good description of the guard rail. In place and you hope you don't have to use it and thousands of tons pass over it daily but not on it. I see you have a fairly wide walkway which is helpful in maintenance or if you have to replace a knuckle. Plenty of bridges in upper Michigan and Minnesta with heavy side shields to keep taconite from raining down on your car. Just saw a 🎥 on a grain train which derailed and luckily the wooden edge kept it upright and they were able to pull it back on the tracks. For some good big bridge scenes and work zones (plus the mega crane they moved in to work on it) check out Grain Express for then last month. Even an aerial view of a rail grinder at night.
So an A+ for today's track construction!
Thank you so much for the A +, now where can I send you an apple...LOL We do thank you Paul for watching and writing
in with the very nice and informative comment.
This gentleman has never worked a day in his life! I am so happy for him!
Really glad you enjoyed Sunset4Semiphores and we
do appreciate your watching today my friend.
@@ccrx6700 You have been doing excellent stuff for years! You seen to enjoy your work and explain things in detail that cannot be found in many places.
Your smile and laugh is infectious. Please keep it up!
I was just thinking about this topic the other day. Guard rails on bridges seem to be a rarity now especially on class one railroads. It seems they are inspected more often so derailments are less likely. However it would still be a good idea to install guard rails for some extra insurance. I don't think concrete ties have the option for guard rails.
They probably do more harm than good, especially with automated inspection systems in use today.
Thanks for writing in and sharing that Tom. I've been hearing from
others also about the lack of guard rails on Class 1's. That
kinda amazes me. Do appreciate your stopping by and checking out
the video today my friend.
Makes sense on cutting the guard rails closer to abutments to be able to tamp. Otherwise they should of ran concrete footings out from abutments to support the ties, lessen settlement, and been able to run your guards farther out. Enjoyed your guard rail back history talk. Cause I always wondered why some of your bridges didn’t have them.
Really great to hear you liked the presentation blue87fj60. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.
Cool Video.
Looking forward to the vids of the route.
maybe they did not put in the guardrails in because of money issues??
Thank you very much for the nice comment Vicious. And, I do know
that you are right for the last 3 bridge decks we have replaced
why the guard rails weren't put in because they wanted to save
a few dollars. I'm not happy bout that, but lot of factors
went into those decisions. Last company that owned us cut
our track budget 25% because they knew they were getting
out and selling out mine.
Dave! This info is fantastic. Take us to school at anytime 📖👷
🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲🙋
That's great to hear you enjoyed watching 4ever dc. Really appreciate your very nice comment and for getting tickets to the home movie today my friend.
Thanks for the Steelton explanation. There are two of them in Ohio.
Your welcome Jon. Steelton in Ohio is not related to Steelton Pa.
At Pa. The rolling mill in Pa. is owned by Arcelor Mittal and is only 1 of 3 rail rolling mills in the US that now exists. If memory serves me
the Ohio Steelton is near Columbus and used to roll rail and
make train car wheels? Correct me if I'm wrong in that. Really
appreciate your checking out the channel tonight my friend.
Nice video Dave Thank You Sir...I had no idea what they were for.
You are very welcome Wayne. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Interesting history and I'm glad the powers that be let you make these videos. It's truly amazing that a rail from 1928 could look like it was made yesterday!
Thank you for the very nice comment Curiosity. We really
appreciate your visiting with us and checking out the guard
rail video my friend.
Thanks for the education. Looking forward to the line videos….
You are very welcome Richard. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for checking out today's home movie my friend.
Dave really enjoy your videos your amazing attitude and sharing the vast experience and knowledge you have from 40+ years working on the railroad your podcast should have at least 100k subscribers come on people if your watching subscribe keep up the great work Dave !!!!!
Golly Thomas, I'm blushing.... what a very special comment and
so kind of you to say that. We really appreciate your support of
the channel my friend.
Hi Dave nice to see your smiling face. Very informative video really enjoyed it. Looking forward to next videos!
Really glad you liked the home movie today Brenda. As always we
so do appreciate your very nice comment and for watching my friend.
thank you very much for wealth of knowledge
You are very welcome Thomas. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
thanks i was wondering what them rails in the middle were for
You are certainly welcome John. Glad you enjoyed and we do
so appreciate your tuning in and watching tonight's presentation
my friend.
really enjoyed this video, thank you!
Glad you liked the show Deb Deb. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Would love to see a video when they redeck that bridge
Hopefully Gene I can do that. The timbers are now laying along side
the rail on the other side of this bridge. I will have a video out of
them delivering the timbers and us taking them down there,
but deck replacement is now on back burner. They had terrible
problems under ground and we only ran 12 trains the entire
month so money is tight right now. Problems are getting solved
and they are running decent now, but now we gotta find some
dead track time to do the deck.
You keep coming up with great ideas for videos.
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie Pleiku. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.
Appreciate your videos Dave, keep them coming. Stay safe.
You are certainly welcome Thinkoutsidedabox. We really appreciate your very nice comment and for stopping by and watching my friend.
Loved it, Dave! I've always wondered about those "guard rails" on the bridges. Where is Bridge No. 8? I couldn't figure out its location from the video (my mind isn't as sharp!). I can't wait for your four-part series on riding the railroad! It it will bring back great memories of my ride with Rodney!!
Glad you enjoyed Pete! Bridge 8 is over Falls Hollow Rd. We will
go over it in the 3rd video on the track ride. Do appreciate all
the great support you are giving the channel my friend.
Really good video Really enjoyed it thank u
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie James. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.
I learned something today. Thank you.
Your very welcome James, I am very pleased to hear you
enjoyed the presentation. Thank you so much for writing in and for watching my friend.
Thanks for the informative video Dave! I watch a lot of railroad videos, and have seen a derailment of a train on a long bridge and the subsequent rerailing of the train using cranes from the ground. That was an open topped bridge. How do they deal with card that derail on a trestle or no access from below? I guess they would need to pull the cars to the other end of the bridge?
You are absolutely correct Mojo. If they cannot be re railed on
the bridge, then yep pull them off the bridge. Same thing in a
tunnel. Easy Peasy.... LOL Appreciate your tuning in to the show my
good friend.
@@ccrx6700 I never even thought about a tunnel! That must be one heck of a job to pull cars out of a deep tunnel! 😮
@@PlanetMojo i hope never have to make a video of it happening here!
@@ccrx6700 I agree - but I would like to see it done somewhere!
Back in the 70's, when I was a young teen, we were snowmobiling on the abandoned railroad track beside the New Haven canal here in northern CT. As we reached the bridge by the old quarry, we all saw the bottom of my dad's sled when his skis became wedged on those guard rails. No one was hurt, we tag teamed the sled free, and were on our way. I've wondered what those inner rails were for since then and stumbled on the answer today. Thanks Dave.
Thank you very much for writing in and sharing your story. We really
appreciate your taking the time to pay us a visit and watching
my friend.
Thanks for the information, I didn't know what they were, but I had a good guess and was right. Always learning Thanks for sharing.
Your are certainly welcome MarvUSA. Really swell to hear you
had a good time tonight. We do appreciate your tuning in the channel
my friend.
Dave, as always I enjoyed your educational railroading video. You know the history of the railroad and coal company so it makes your videos interesting for me. You are a great ambassador for the Cumberland mine.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much Thomas for the very nice comment. We're
very pleased to hear you are enjoying and we so do appreciate
the support you have given us my friend.
Appreciate the information Dave it’s amazing I enjoy listening to the information you impart never have traveled by train in the states, more in the UK but even then never knew the ins and outs of maintaining a railroad, thank you very much for taking the time to inform.
Really great to hear you liked the presentation ferstuck37. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.
Very well explained Dave and I learnt something too, about those side timbers which we do not use here. Love the old rail, it makes me think what trains ran over it all those years ago. Some of our rail is pretty old but I never saw any as old as that. we still have some signalling equipment in use from those times with castings that show the old companies names.
Really great to hear you liked the presentation cedarcam. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend. Sure
wish I could see some of those castings! That would be awesome
for me.
@@ccrx6700 Sadly unlike you I never took my cam to record them Looking back I wish I had. I think somewhere I have a photo in a switch tower (Signal box) that had some dated castings in. I will see if I can find that some day and put it on my channel. I bought two signalling block section instruments when one box we had closed and not sure if they have a date stamped into the wood. I know one has L&Y which was Lancashire and Yorkshire and it was 1923 when that company ceased.
Thank you Dave for another interesting video! You know your railroading! I always look forward to your next video!
You are very welcome Raymond. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Your getting pretty good with vid creation... Nice intro leading into the general vid subject...Looking forward to the Four vid series excursion...
Thank you very much Donald for the very nice comment. You've been
with us a long time now and I am trying to constantly get better
at making these. We really do appreciate all the wonderful
support you have given us my friend.
Dave, you sir, are a master of your craft. I wished I worked with people as competent as you.
Well golly gee.... what an exceptionally nice thing to say.
I'm flattered. I understand, far more than you may think,
how nice it would be to work with competent people.
We may be in the same boat my friend.
That was educational. Thank you!
Your very welcome Truth Provider, glad you had a good time
watching tonight. Do really appreciate your taking the time
to write in and watch the presentation my friend.
Dave that was a great presentation about the tracks.
Well golly Margaret thank you very much for the very nice
comment. We're really glad you enjoyed the movie today my friend.
awesome indepth knowledge!
Very glad you found the video interesting. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the show today my friend.
Hi Dave, another fascinating video, thanks! How does a 1928 vintage rail stick get into a rail line built in the 90's? Is it NOS or maybe repurposed from another location? It's never used so it could last forever, right?
Thank you so much for the very nice comment Dean. Very good
question. The guard rail no doubt was once used on another
RR, then when it was deemed unfit for mainline service was sold
as scrap rail. So it is cheap to buy up and use for the bridge
guard rails. also FYI, our RR was built in 1975/76
Pretty cool that rail was rolled in 1928, think of all the things that have happened since that rail was rolled.
Got some even older stuff to show you too sometime Eric. You are
so right, a lot of water over the dam since then. As always
we do appreciate the great support you have given this channel
my friend.
@@ccrx6700 That's why I am so fascinated by vintage stuff, because I think that every old piece and equipment has a story to tell! There has been so much change since 1928, it's just to crazy to think about how that rail has been around for over 90 years! Think, 1928 was the first year for the Ford model A!
@@ericcoffedgp40 😊👍
Dave: An unrelated question. Where does one buy railroad spikes that are chrome plated?
Oh wow, chrome plated? I really doubt you could find those.
We once tried to but stainless steel spikes to use around
our high coal spillage areas but they were astronomically
expensive. Best thing to do is get a spike and chrome it
yourself. Thanks for writing in and for taking in the video
tonight my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I have a couple of rusty, very old spikes. I ground the rust off. I think the surface could accept some electroplating. I'll give it a try. Thanks.
@@Garcansdad Good luck!
If that fails, polish the spike and paint it a silver/chrome color.
@@Garcansdad 😊
@@thomasboese3793 Good idea. There is a paint used to refinish automotive tail light reflectors. It is a bright silver, mirror finish. I'll try that. Thanks.
Thank you for the video, Annette understands all about "check rails" (as they call them over here). Keep up the good work!
You are certainly welcome. They tell me that you guys also use
check rails on some very high degree curves. Appreciate your
stopping by today and for taking the time to write in my friend.
Nice! Seen those before never really knew what they were for! Thanks Dave!
You are very welcome Duane and it's great to hear you enjoyed
the home movie today, we really appreciate your getting tickets
to the show my friend.
Dave, great history lesson!! Thanks for sharing the information. It is always fun to see what you are going to bring us next. Fun to learn why things are the way they are. Take care!!
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie Tom. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.
hey my old friend great video
Thank you Cecil, glad you enjoyed. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Nice show 👍 5_11
Thank you Alan, it is pretty interesting stuff these bridge guard rails. Glad you could take the time to watch my friend.
Thanks for the educational video. Congratulations on 45 years (in about 2 mo's) of being on the rails. That is a really long time. Lots of changes seen I'm sure.
You are certainly welcome Adrein. We really appreciate your
very nice comment and for stopping by and watching my friend.
Great education video Dave, plus a history lesson!
You are very welcome Brian. I do love to tell the history of
this place. Most of the old guys here have retired and or are
deceased, so at least the history now will be saved for
posterity. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for taking in the video today my friend.
Thanks for the informative video Dave! Just think about the steam engines that ran on that old 1928 rail. Look forward to the upcoming rides.
Your certainly welcome and thank you Rick for watching and writing
in with the very nice comment. You know what, that would have
made for a very interesting addition to the video about the steam
running over it, dang it Rick why didn't you write in before I
made this video and say that..... LOL You are so right and now
you got my mind thinking and next video I make on the old
Carnegie rail I will remember to say that, I hope, but you better
keep reminding me!!!
Thank-You! Dave i like it a lot
Awesome Real Cotnoir. Very glad you enjoyed. So do appreciate
your checking out tonight's presentation my friend.
Another great video Dave !
Thank you very much Kurt. We're really glad to hear you enjoyed
the home movie today and do appreciate all the great support
you continue to give to this channel my friend.
Great video! Definitely great learning of railroad history. Have a great day!!
You are very welcome Johnathan. Really appreciate your very
nice comment and for checking out today's home movie my friend.
Thank you so much for this informative video. I've hung around trains since I was 5 and wondered about those guard rails. I figured they were to keep the trucks on the bridge but never found documentation about it. Much oblige!
Your certainly welcome and thank you William for watching and writing in with the very nice comment.
Thank you for taking the time to dive deeper into that’s railroading
Very glad you enjoyed the home movie George. We do
appreciate your nice comment and for watching my friend.