Ooomg Dave.. my heart just sank for you and all those hard working guys.. looks like something that would happen to me.. I'm thinking a Dato blade.. well only if it would fit in a circular saw.. Look forward to seeing this challenge.. !! That's Railroading! 😜 DD
Hey Dave always is a pleasure to have you visit with us. But as you full well know, things like this happen. That's railroading. next video coming out mid next week will show you more. Got several of your videos on the to watch list. I've just been really busy lately. For those of you reading this, Dave is a former UP engineer and has a really cool channel, please check out some of his videos to get a real insider's knowledge on railroading: www.youtube.com/@daylightdave9405
@@ccrx6700 This was so nice of you Dave.... Im curious as to how the Bridge Nightmare is going? So we got nailed by a storm with high winds here.... One of my 20+ ft. trees is now laying in my driveway.... I gotta break out the saw too! Ooooh crap.... DD 🤪
Agree! Speaks volumes about their company and the leadership within. Positive, creative, and hardworking employees who value quality work and longevity being fully devoted to the task at hand. That doesn’t happen by magic and it speaks to the quality of the company leadership who clearly lead by example.
Also sometimes it points to where the reality of the problem lies...... we all make mistakes time to time as nobody is perfect!..... thus it can eliminate wrongful blame, or point out where we have to be careful in the future!
It certainly is. Without their support thousands of viewers would never get to see stuff like this. We are all very fortunate that the company I work for allows this. Management here knows I do these videos and have no problem with it, although it does come with some stipulations. Appreciate your nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.
Yes he was David. Richard was 72 years of age when they did this bridge, very hot out and he stayed up on that truck all day long, all week. He's been a railroader all his life and loves it. Thanks so much my friend for watching the bridge deck replacement video.
Dave - you have a very “laid back” style of commentary that is both educational and fun to watch/listen to. I have learned so much about the railroad from you. I was walking near railroad tracks with my wife and I showed her how and why the rail coupler bolts are staggered as a backup in the event a train shears off any, you would have at least 1/2 of the bolts still intact. That was all you, my friend! Thank you for these great videos!
@Neil H, Agreed, I noticed this the 1st. video I watched. Dave has a "One of a Kind" style of teaching that you never get tired or bored ... he makes learning fun and interesting !
Next long video coming out you will see even more the timbers being replaced, that should be out sometime mid next week Hugh. it is really interesting to watch. Short video was because a large number of young viewers watch on their phones and watch the shorts rather than long videos, so shorts is to capture that viewing audience which would not normally see this being done. Very glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching my friend.
I prefer regular length over short as well but these are a lot of work and take a lot of time and even in the shorts I get good information and learn things.
Thank you very much for sharing this with us, the trials and difficulties of railroading has certainly been brought to the fore in this situation. It is fascinating to see these men at work.
There is always something. They will get it fixed and back in business. Looking forward to the next video. You have dedication working all day. Getting off work then filming this project.
Hi Dave. Again I say, it's always a pleasure to watch you. You are so awesome and explain things so that us non railroaders can understand it. Keep up the great job. Mark
Sure would be nice to have a job once in awhile that doesn't have problems tho Rick....:-) But, that's railroading. Always enjoy having you visit with us my friend
Oh my I felt like I was right there with you while this work is going on. I love this stuff and you're right, you won't see this kind of thing anywhere else. Thank you again Dave for this fantastic stuff.
Neat work by some great operators Dave. Very frustrating to see the dap problem, but I have no doubt the crew will get it sorted! To quote a very wise man..."that's railroading" 🙂
Yep, that's railroading, not sure about the wise man part tho....LOL Richard is 72 and a very good operator and a great guy. How bout that, same name as you. Can't thank you enough my friend for coming out and playing on the bridge with us tonight.
Holy crap, Dave! You were making me nervous when you were out on that bridge! What a terrible problem for Bridge 8! Again, these are amazing issues that the general public would never know. Thank you, sir, and be careful!!
LOL, believe it or not Pete I'm afraid of heights, I don't like getting up on a step ladder. But being up on a RR bridge that high never bothers me.... now go figure that one out. Appreciate your visiting with us today my friend.
Glad you enjoyed John. Guys persevered and got the job done despite the adversity they faced. Richard is 72 years of age and a really great guy. Always is a pleasure to have you stop by and check things out my friend.
From a viewers' perspective your 'Major Problems' are our manor from heaven. I really enjoy triumph over adversity type vids particularly when it's rail based.
Well thank you very much for the very kind words. Adversity happens on the RR. These guys were the best. They persevered and never gave up working thru a tough situation in the high heat. Kudos to them. Always is a pleasure to have you join us and hear from you my friend.
Very cool! I spent a lot of time as a kid around railroad bridges, and I always loved the size and strength needed to carry the Big Iron! Thanks for showing us this awesome repair.
@@ccrx6700 Luckily although doing each timber will be annoying and time consuming, it won't be too hard to fix the problem. At least you're not stuck without options.
These guys ha d lot of adversity to deal with, but they handled it and never gave up. More to come in the next video. Always do appreciate your dropping by and writing in my friend.
Thank you very much John for the very kind words. Really glad you are enjoying. We are very fortunate that the company here allows me to do this. Thousands of folks get to see a part of railroading that no one else shows. Very much appreciate all your wonderful support of the channel my friend.
yep but that's railroading. We had a great bunch of guys here Eric that never gave up despite the adversity they faced. Thanks so much my friend for all your wonderful support of the channel.
Wow, that sucks Dave. To have that sort of problem with just a few days to have the job completed. That really amazes me that the rails can bend like that from the heat. They looked like they had a pretty good curve to them. I sure like how you share all of this with us and the way you explain things. Keep these great videos coming for us.
Thank you so much for the very nice comment. Mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable job and never gave up. Very much appreciate your dropping by and taking in the presentation my friend.
Dave, Travis here, I love the videos!! been watching since you first started UA-cam. I'm 27 and always had a passion about railroading, its awesome. I love it so much I tried to apply to Pan Am but it's tuff to get into, so I've been a paving guy doing road paving since I was 18. I still might try and apply to work on rails again. but I want to say thank for all your knowledge, good spirt and everything you do, your an inspiration, you definitely are a mentor, keep these awesome videos going. be safe out there sir.
Wow Travis, what an awesome and very nice comment. We are so glad you are having a good time with us. We really appreciate all the wonderful support you have given the channel my friend.
That looks like a real headache Dave! Whenever work is done there is a possibility for mistakes. You and your colleagues will come up with a solution. Thank you for sharing Dave, you always keep a positive attitude!
Yep Raymond somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts. Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
I learn something new with every video you share Dave. I've come to understand why another railfan would refer to the track as the single biggest moving part of any railroad. Stay safe sir.
It is pretty interesting to watch isn't it Paul. Something that not too many folks ever get to see being done up close. Richard the operator is 72 and been a railroader all his life. He's not only a very good operator but a great guy. Thank you my friend for checking out the video today.
Thank you Tom for the very nice comment. We certainly appreciate all your wonderful comments and all the great support you have given the channel my friend.
Your certainly welcome James. A much needed improvement. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch the video my friend, may you have a very good day. And, if you haven't already done so, check out my second channel with more cool videos on it: www.youtube.com/@ThatsDavesOtherDoings
Most folks had no clue what a dap is WheezerOfJuice, now a whole lot of folks know. The machine they use to cut the daps at the mill is pretty impressive. I was at the mill watching them but they asked me not to make any videos there. Glad you could take the time to write in and to check out the bridge deck replacement.
Hey Dave, thanks a lot for stopping on your way home just to take that cool video for us. Always appreciate the interesting things you take the time to share 👍
Dave, that is the ultimate BUMMER. I guess that is why Norm Abrams always said measure twice, cut once. That is going to be a tough go with all of the fresh creosote. As always, thanks for taking your time after work to get an excellent video, edit it and post it. Awesome!
Things happen Tom, but that's railroading. Just not a part you want to see. Guys did awesome and worked thru a tough situation. Next video out will show you more of what they did. Always enjoy hearing from you my friend.
that is bad when some one screws up, and others have to do the fix it. I hope that they find who oopsed and make them accountable. it is just a great watching the skill of the operator move the long ties, fitting under the rails. making it look so easy! hours of doing that type of repairs, nice video to see another aspect of railroading! barry
Mistake happen Barry as you well know. But these guys persevered and got the job done despite the adversity they faced. Always appreciate your taking the time to visit with us my friend.
Your welcome Jeff. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Here is the next video in that series where I show you how they made their corrections: ua-cam.com/video/7-KKDoYjxSs/v-deo.html
Lots involved in this project of bridge timber replacement. We helped the Bridge and Buildings dept. once and awhile but we usually didn't take care of this. Great video once again Dave. Have a nice rset of your evening.(Steve)
Yes sir, big job. Most RR's as you say, have their own bridge departments that specialize in this kind of stuff. Really glad you enjoyed and we certainly appreciate all your wonderful support of the channel my friend.
Yep William, glad I could show you a heat buckle. Fortunately it went back almost to place the next morning after the rails had cooled, they only had to bar rail over a bit to get it back in place. Thank you so much for dropping by and checking out the bridge repairs tonight my friend.
Richard is 72 Valerie. Been a railroader all his life and is a great guy. We like to see Richard show up here. Men like that they don't make anymore. Certainly do appreciate all the wonderful support you have given our channel my friend.
Dave, I was building a new run around and at one end was a bridge 🌉 that required 65 timber. Being we were going over water 💧, we had to use Green Treated Timber. No dap. We removed the old Timber, cleaned off the steel, gave it a quick coat of red Primer paint, then laid Convear belt onto the beams for cushion. Since we had no dap, I tacked 6 Timber together then marked out for the dap. Using a good circular saw & a 60 tooth blade, I just kept going back and forth, about a 1/4 inch between passes. Took my hammer and broke the wood off then cleaned up what was left with a chisel. The beam was about 18 inches wide 😳. Stay safe my friend, Richard Bause
I'm surprised the EPA still allows many RR to use creosoted timbers over streams. Good job on the hand dapping, that's a lot of work! They used a circular saw and a hand adze for these. Always appreciate your joining in with us and checking things out my friend.
Thank you very much for the nice comment. We really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in. Kudos to these guys who never gave up and dealt with a very tough situation.
Your welcome Robin. Our timber supplier has original prints for some of the bridges and some they can't find them, this one they couldn't find. Guy who measured did not measure center span girder right. A big mistake, but mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable job in what they had to deal with. Always appreciate it when you come to visit with us my friend.
Thank you Gary for the really nice comment. Cannot say enough how much we appreciate your kind words and for taking the time to watch tonight my friend.
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you liked the video B GE. Really appreciate your taking the time to check it out and may you have a very good day my friend.
Yes they did EJ, those guys persevered and got the job done, Kudos to them for their excellent efforts. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend. Thank You.
We were lucky Brian to have such a great bunch of guys here who persevered and never gave up. Thanks so much for the very nice comment and for all your wonderful support of the channel my friend.
Your welcome Matt. Really nice to have you join in with us playing on the bridge my friend. I'm sure those guys would have loved a cold glass of lemonade on those really hot days.
That’s a dang good operator right there! Great video,Dave! Also love seeing safety is first and foremost! That really stinks about the dap not being cut wide enough. A lot of work to make it right. Thanks for explaining what dap is! I was way wrong as I thought it was for the tie plates. Also Dave,on a curved bridge like that with some super elevation on the track,can that be accomplished by the dap angle where it meets the bridge girder? Be safe out there friend!
Yes he is Rusty. Richard is 72 years of age and a really good operator. One of the best, We always tease Lucky about how he needs to learn from Richard, along with some more colorful railroad humor....LOL Thank you so much for checking out the presentation tonight my friend.
Mistakes happen, this one was a big mistake, but the guys persevered and got the job done despite the adversity they faced. Kudos to them. Very much appreciate your deciding to tune in and watch the show today my friend.
Engineer sir. Works are very amazing. by replace of crossing bars on the railway track. It is very systematic hard works also. Thankyou for introducing of this informable video.
Yep Thomas somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts. Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
Very glad you enjoyed Robert, thank you for the really nice comment. Appreciate your visiting with us and watching. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Yep Dave somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts. Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
Thank you Jim. Early next week will be another video out where I show you what they did to widen the dap, it was a pain, but they got it done, but that's railroadin. Thank you so much my friend for dropping by and watching tonight.
These guys had some tough things to deal with Lawrie, but they persevered and got thru it. Kudos to them for that. We were lucky to have such a fine group of men on this job who didn't give up. Always appreciate your visiting with us my friend.
Man o man that had to be gutting for the guys when that fitment problem was discovered. Hopefully the trimming goes smoothly, the heat buckle gets drawn back into place, and the train can start rolling on schedule! Fantastic video Dave! Thanks for showing the good days annnnd the bad days! 👍🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃💯💪
Thank you for the very nice comment. These guys did a heck of a job sticking with some tough situations. Kudos to them specially in that really hot weather. Buckle cam back in when it cooled off over night, they just had to bar it over a bit into place. Will show you more of the trim work in the next video out this week. Appreciate your watching my friend.
Anthony that operator is 72 years of age. he is an excellent operator and a really great guy. hard worker, I can only speak in superlatives when talking about him. Thank you so much my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
Thank you my good man. You are so right about the skills. Great pilots are not made in calm seas, they are made in rough seas. Very much appreciate your visiting with us and taking in the video tonight.
Had some Uncles on the MOW crews for the CSX Gainesville Midland RR. We got old ties to build bridges over the creeks and rivers on our farm.. And for corner posts for pasture fences. They worked great.
Got many a tie for a post here on my farm also Tom. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Hi Dave, oops somebody has an elasticated tape measure! Thank you for your time to film and to show us your updates, I suppose if you were to use a combination of new timbers and old soft ones would that increase the risk of rail bending and fracture in time? Thank you and have a great weekend. Rgds, Peter.
Yep Peter somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts. Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
That sucks that those daps were cut wrong! When you do widen them, won't they be too wide? Just wondering if the notch locks them in place, and if their too wide they will slip around? Sounds like you have the bent rail problem handled, but that bad dap cut problem really sucks. 😖
Timber supply company dapped the timbers the way they were given the measurements. Unfortunately the guy who measured did not measure the center girder right. But mistakes happen to the best of us. My dad always said to err is human, to forgive divine. Dap in the timbers helps to keep them from sliding laterally on the girders. On bridges that have curves the daps are cut to also add in super elevation on the high rail. Always appreciate your coming out to visit with us my friend. Will show you more of what they did in the next video coming out soon.
That man is 72 years of age Joshua! Been a railroader all his life. Excellent operator and a great guy to be around and have on the job. There nothing he hasn't done on the RR. Thank you so much for paying us a visit and checking out the show my friend.
Yep, but he could have picked a cooler day to show up....LOL. We certainly do appreciate your visiting with us Paul and checking out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Never a dull moment on the railroad! Looks like a job for a skilled chainsaw person. Very interesting video Dave. I like learning how things are done especially on construction projects. Look forward to the next installment.
Agreed- circular saw for vertical cut, then chainsaw horizontal rip cut. Sounds tricky and back breaking, but fast! Maybe make a temporary "bench" at good working height and have grapple truck move them on and off.
Always an adventure here Wilbur. These guys did a remarkable job dealing with the adversity and high heat. They never gave up. We give them a big thumbs up for their efforts. More to show you on the bridge in the next video out. Thanks so much my friend for all your great comments and wonderful support of the channel.
Thank you very much Chris, glad you enjoyed. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Someday I'm gonna figure out how to make a scratch and smell video, creosote will permeate the viewers home location when that happens.... :-) Railroaders love the smell of creosote on a very hot day.... Thank you so much my friend for visiting with us tonight.
Great video Dave, looks like someone had a big boo boo. Someone will have to answer to that😳 Looks like OT is needed to get this done Now. Thats railroading. Thanks again Dave 👍 🚂 Please keep us updated
Timber supply company dapped the timbers the way they were given the measurements. Unfortunately the guy who measured did not measure the center girder right. But mistakes happen to the best of us. My dad always said to err is human, to forgive divine. Always appreciate your coming out to visit with us my friend. Will show you more of what they did in the next video coming out soon Christopher.
Thank you for the nice comment David and your welcome. Really appreciate your visiting with us to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Some of them were, some weren't. Can't judge a timber from just the tops. Got to watch underneath as a train goes over the bridge. If the timbers are moving up and down, those timbers are soft and spongy and not a good thing. When that happens, it's time to replace all of the timbers. Very much appreciate your stopping by and checking out the show my friend.
They should put a dado blade on a circular saw and cut to width. It's gonna take a long time, but it's quicker than reordering, I'm guessing. Thank you for getting out there and showing the details on this project. This stuff is fascinating.
Stay tuned, next week will be the sequel to this video where I show you what they did to widen the daps. Very much appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the video today my friend.
Aww what a setback Dave and it was going so well up to then. It is not just the problem of getting the dap cut wider but one of having the tools on site to do it and turning each timber over to cut then back the right way up again all adding time to the work. At least it was not 3am on a cold winters night which is when a lot of jobs like that run into problems over here. Over Christmas there are a few big jobs planned but we have strikes so I can see a lot of delays getting things fixed on schedule.
Yes it was a significant set back but as you know cedarcam, that's railroading. :-) It happens to the best of us. Guys did an awesome job persevering despite the adversity and high heat. But like you say on a cold winter night it would have been far worse to deal with. Hope things get resolved on the labor issues. At least the RR workers here won't be going on strike, if they did, that would cripple our country in a very short time. Always appreciate your faithfulness in watching my friend.
Thank you so much Mike. We gonna have to get some That's Railroading stickers made up so you can paste them on your hard hat...:-) Glad to hear you enjoyed. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend.
Thank you for the kind words J. mygrant. You are right, he is a really good operator. Appreciate very much your checking out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Yeah I know that loads of fun I actually am a timber framer and deal with massive timbers all day long so yeah they're going to have fun and it's got preservatives in it what fun
We could have used your expertise here Kevin! Why didn't you show up before I made the video back in June? ... LOL Very much appreciate your taking the time to tune in and watch my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Well I hate to say it I live in Greenville South Carolina and I'm quite a few hours away from you you should always talk to the Amish which is kind of funny because that's how I learned the basics of timber framing was from a Amish group that was traveling teaching timber framing
It was a very hot week Thomas. Richard is 72 and stayed up there on that grapple all day long. He is a good man, everyone likes Richard. I will give him your compliments next time I see him.
Mistakes do happen, sadly in this case it cost them a good bit of time and the bridge deck did not get completed yet. But, that's railroading. Really appreciate your stopping by and checking out the show my fellow railroader.
@@ccrx6700 you would be amazed on how track is renewed and maintained in New York City Tranist. Some parts of the job we still work the old basics, and other parts modern-day. It is a well rounded education of track, from ballast, concrete to bridge (structure), tangent, curves and switches. Be safe out there. Always get home the same way you left!!
Yep Russell, but that's railroading.... :-) Mid next week you will see the third video in this mini series and in that one will show you what they did to fix the daps. So stay tuned. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with me my friend.
I was cringing when you were on the bridge by where the railroad ties were taken out. That looked like a long drop😬 Just watching the video brought back memories of being afraid of heights. I couldn’t do the job you do
it is most interesting David, I too am afraid of heights, I don't even like getting up on a step ladder, yet being on one of our RR bridges doesn't bother me at all, that's really weird. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the deck replacement my friend.
Deck replacement was done last week in June. We got the deck timbers delivered last March which was shown in the last video. My time schedules on videos are often far ahead of when I made them. Appreciate your checking out the show tonight my friend.
Yes it is Bill, just not a part of railroading you like to see, but it happens and as you know, railroaders find a way to get thru tough situations. Really appreciate all your wonderful support of the channel my friend.
I live near a tie plant where they creosote. When a delivery of new ties is shipped out, you can smell the fresh ties about 3/4 of a mile behind the semi on the interstate. Sometimes it makes you wonder if you’re suddenly having engine problems because of the smell 😂 I can’t imagine working all day in the heat right next to them.
Creosote is some wicked stuff. I rather imagine when the wind is right Will you get a whiff of that from time to time at your home. Very much appreciate all the great support you have given the channel and for all you wonderful comments my friend.
A circular saw and a couple of 2" chisels. Set the blade to the depth you need, make a bunch of kerfs and then chip out the flakes with the chisels. I just finished a major amount of dap corrections for the miter rail seats on a drawbridge. The bascule and approach spans had a grade mismatch at the heel. It involved lowering eight 60" by 30" miter rail seat plates and then run off the grade change by dapping the approach span ties. Not too hard to do, but watch the that the wind doesnt blow the sawdust onto your sweaty body during a hot day. I've even set up fans and blowers to blow the sawdust away from me. Creosote affects people differently. Me, not so much, I've seen it peel the skin off of other people like a really bad sunburn.
Your right, creosote can cause some nasty burns. My dad was a lineman for the local power company and back then they climbed creosoted poles. Great idea on the fans. They could have used your help on these my friend. Always appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Gosh Dave, that's a big deal with no easy or quick fix. Takes the steam right outa the old boiler. Like you always say that's railroading, but not the way we like to see it. Stay safe Dave and thanks for the update!!
No easy fix Rick, but these guys persevered and saw it thru despite the adversity they faced. Kudos to them. Appreciate the nice comment and for checking out the show today my friend.
Dave 2nd spans over the road my guess? If the person doing tie data look from under side would have seen that especially on solid deck ! Also on class 1s we call the long ties outriggers another thing in hot weather only take out 12 ties put back 12 button up move on that keeps rail from kinking ! 42 years in bridge dept put on thousands of ties ! When i frist started we daped all are tie at frist with 2 man cross cut saw and foot adz then later added chainsaw we thought we were in heaven !!
Thank you so much for the great comment. yep center span over the road. The guy measuring did not take into account the approach span girders were not as wide as center girders. I have no idea why they did not spike the rail down like you said it should have been done. I wondered that myself, but rail did come back in when it cooled off that night. To correct the dap, that's what they used was a hand adze, will show that in the next video coming out. Really appreciate your watching today my friend. Wish you had been here to add in your expertise. Railroad experience is invaluable, can't find out what guys like you know from reading a book about it.
If you had watched a train pass over the bridge from underneath then you would have seen the timbers were spongy also some of them were still in decent shape, some were not holding spikes. Thank you very much for taking the time to check out the video my friend.
Some of them were, some weren't Wayne. Can't judge a timber from just the tops. Got to watch underneath as a train goes over the bridge. If the timbers are moving up and down, those timbers are soft and spongy and not a good thing. When that happens, it's time to replace all of the timbers. Very much appreciate your stopping by and checking out the show my friend.
Many years ago (1950s), my Dad and his friends got hold of some half-crossties, hauled them out to a little island in the Laguna Madre, and made a foundation for a fishing cabin. I think the cabin is still there.
Lot's of good uses for used ties and timbers. Glad to see they weren't going to waste Thomas. Thank you so much for checking out the bridge problems my friend.
Dave, been a fan a long time. If you need to get rid of the ties, I am a volunteer with the North Alabama Railroad Museum and they are in desperate need for as many ties as the can get their hands on. I've been a fan for a while, definitely enjoy your humor and upbeat spirit.
We generally do give the timbers away, they are still here, but trucking them to you would cost a small fortune, but if you're still interested, write me back. Of course trucking would be on you guys expense. Very glad you are enjoying the home movies my friend. We certainly appreciate your wonderful support.
Assuming this is a multi-span bridge and the dapping error is just at the main span. The approach spans are likely shorter than the main span, so the girder flanges are likely narrower, and center-to-center of girders is also quite possibly different. If measurements for the tie dapping were taken in the field on just one of the approach spans that would explain it. Original plans could also not reflect what was actually constructed. Draftsman specialized in railway structures here, learned a long time ago to require that field measurements are taken at each span.
You are exactly right. Center girder is wider and measurement was taken on approach ones, a fatal mistake. Our timber supply company has several of the original US Steel prints for some of our bridges but they could not find the one for Bridge 8. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend. Excellent comment, you are a thinking man.
Looks like some dicey work there :) Only the best trained crews and skilled operators here. This is way above the ground and there aren't a lot of places to get out of harm's way. Who would have thought bad daps would be such an issue. How would you have known they weren't dapped correctly unless you had known up front that X number of the timbers needed a different dap on one part of the bridge. Add in the heat warp and - well - this looks like a huge evolution for sure. I feel for you folks, even though that's railroadin' - it is a bunch of work you folks hadn't planned on.
Guys had their hands full on this one Brian. They persevered and never gave up and with the high heat, we have to give them a lot of thumbs up. Thanks for the very nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.
Will show you in the next video out what the guys did to re do the dap. It was a pain, but they did what they had to do. Unwanted things sometimes happen on the railroad as in life itself. But these guys persevered and never gave up. Thanks so much my friend for checking out the presentation.
Hello from Los Angeles California. What is the purpose of the set of small rails that for example that are in the middle of the actual tracks the train ride on on a bridge that meet at a point on each end? i wish I could've explained it better, sorry.
Those are guard rails. If a derailment occurs on the bridge, the guard rails keep the derailed car close to the running rails so it doesn't fall off the bridge.
You explained it perfectly my friend. here is a video I made that tells you everything you ever wanted to know about the bridge guard rails. ua-cam.com/video/M9HZTKMyim8/v-deo.html
Ooomg Dave.. my heart just sank for you and all those hard working guys.. looks like something that would happen to me.. I'm thinking a Dato blade.. well only if it would fit in a circular saw.. Look forward to seeing this challenge.. !! That's Railroading! 😜 DD
Hey Dave always is a pleasure to have you visit with us. But
as you full well know, things like this happen. That's railroading.
next video coming out mid next week will show you more.
Got several of your videos on the to watch list. I've just been
really busy lately. For those of you reading this, Dave is a former UP
engineer and has a really cool channel, please check out some
of his videos to get a real insider's knowledge on railroading:
www.youtube.com/@daylightdave9405
It's keeping men working
@@robswan4170 You got it Rob.. it's all keeping us old guys young.. have a good weekend.. 👍 😊 DD
@@ccrx6700 This was so nice of you Dave.... Im curious as to how the Bridge Nightmare is going? So we got nailed by a storm with high winds here.... One of my 20+ ft. trees is now laying in my driveway.... I gotta break out the saw too! Ooooh crap.... DD 🤪
"Dado" blade
It’s great that your management lets you film this stuff
Agree! Speaks volumes about their company and the leadership within. Positive, creative, and hardworking employees who value quality work and longevity being fully devoted to the task at hand. That doesn’t happen by magic and it speaks to the quality of the company leadership who clearly lead by example.
Also sometimes it points to where the reality of the problem lies......
we all make mistakes time to time as nobody is perfect!.....
thus it can eliminate wrongful blame, or point out where we have to be careful in the future!
It certainly is. Without their support thousands of viewers would
never get to see stuff like this. We are all very fortunate that
the company I work for allows this. Management here knows
I do these videos and have no problem with it, although it
does come with some stipulations. Appreciate your
nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.
The best “Work” videos on UA-cam 👍👍👍
Thank you very much pdalko for the very kind words. We really
appreciate all your wonderful support of the channel my friend.
Operator doing a good job putting in ties thanks for sharing Dave
Yes he was David. Richard was 72 years of age when they did this
bridge, very hot out and he stayed up on that truck all day long,
all week. He's been a railroader all his life and loves it. Thanks so
much my friend for watching the bridge deck replacement video.
Dave - you have a very “laid back” style of commentary that is both educational and fun to watch/listen to. I have learned so much about the railroad from you. I was walking near railroad tracks with my wife and I showed her how and why the rail coupler bolts are staggered as a backup in the event a train shears off any, you would have at least 1/2 of the bolts still intact. That was all you, my friend! Thank you for these great videos!
Thank you Neil for the very kind comment. Glad you are enjoying the
home movies. We really appreciate all your wonderful support
my friend.
@Neil H, Agreed, I noticed this the 1st. video I watched. Dave has a "One of a Kind" style of teaching that you never get tired or bored ... he makes learning fun and interesting !
This is what I wished we'd seen the other day rather than a short. This is interesting.
Next long video coming out you will see even more the timbers
being replaced, that should be out sometime mid next week Hugh.
it is really interesting to watch. Short video was because a large
number of young viewers watch on their phones and watch
the shorts rather than long videos, so shorts is to capture that
viewing audience which would not normally see this being done.
Very glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching my friend.
I prefer regular length over short as well but these are a lot of work and take a lot of time and even in the shorts I get good information and learn things.
Thank you very much for sharing this with us, the trials and difficulties of railroading has certainly been brought to the fore in this situation. It is fascinating to see these men at work.
Your very welcome John. Thank you so much for all your wonderful
comments and for the great support you have given the channel
my friend.
A couple guys (masked and suited), a skill saw, some creosote and a brush, you're golden.
Who you gonna call? Ghost Busters.... LOL Thanks so much
my friend for dropping by and checking out the presentation
today my friend.
"Skil" saw. It's a brand name.
There is always something. They will get it fixed and back in business. Looking forward to the next video. You have dedication working all day. Getting off work then filming this project.
Thank you Beverly for your always positive comments. We
really appreciate all your wonderful support my friend.
Hi Dave. Again I say, it's always a pleasure to watch you. You are so awesome and explain things so that us non railroaders can understand it. Keep up the great job. Mark
Thank you for the nice comment Mark. It's always a pleasure
to have you visit with us and hear from you. May you have a
very good day my friend.
Well Dave it's not a job unless you have problems. Great video Dave!
Sure would be nice to have a job once in awhile that doesn't
have problems tho Rick....:-) But, that's railroading. Always
enjoy having you visit with us my friend
Oh my I felt like I was right there with you while this work is going on. I love this stuff and you're right, you won't see this kind of thing anywhere else. Thank you again Dave for this fantastic stuff.
Appreciate the very nice comment Marti. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
Neat work by some great operators Dave. Very frustrating to see the dap problem, but I have no doubt the crew will get it sorted! To quote a very wise man..."that's railroading" 🙂
Yep, that's railroading, not sure about the wise man part tho....LOL
Richard is 72 and a very good operator and a great guy. How bout that, same name as you. Can't thank you enough my friend for
coming out and playing on the bridge with us tonight.
Holy crap, Dave! You were making me nervous when you were out on that bridge! What a terrible problem for Bridge 8! Again, these are amazing issues that the general public would never know. Thank you, sir, and be careful!!
LOL, believe it or not Pete I'm afraid of heights, I don't like
getting up on a step ladder. But being up on a RR bridge that
high never bothers me.... now go figure that one out. Appreciate
your visiting with us today my friend.
That's a unique problem with the ties. Shame it caused extra work for the crew. That crane operator sure is good too. Thanks for sharing again sir.
Glad you enjoyed John. Guys persevered and got the job done
despite the adversity they faced. Richard is 72 years of age
and a really great guy. Always is a pleasure to have you
stop by and check things out my friend.
From a viewers' perspective your 'Major Problems' are our manor from heaven. I really enjoy triumph over adversity type vids particularly when it's rail based.
Well thank you very much for the very kind words. Adversity happens
on the RR. These guys were the best. They persevered and
never gave up working thru a tough situation in the high heat.
Kudos to them. Always is a pleasure to have you join us and
hear from you my friend.
Very cool! I spent a lot of time as a kid around railroad bridges, and I always loved the size and strength needed to carry the Big Iron! Thanks for showing us this awesome repair.
Appreciate the nice comment and glad you enjoyed Lowell. Thanks so much for stopping by and may you have a very good day my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Luckily although doing each timber will be annoying and time consuming, it won't be too hard to fix the problem. At least you're not stuck without options.
@@ManiacRacing 😊👍
Woah, what a task!
Extra work to be done but needing it within 3 days makes things even tougher.
These guys ha d lot of adversity to deal with, but they handled
it and never gave up. More to come in the next video. Always
do appreciate your dropping by and writing in my friend.
Dave, Of all the railroad shows that are on U-TUBE yours is THE MOST INFORMATIVE; I HAVE WATCHED SEVERAL. You are doing it all with your cell phone.
Thank you very much John for the very kind words. Really glad
you are enjoying. We are very fortunate that the company here
allows me to do this. Thousands of folks get to see a part
of railroading that no one else shows. Very much appreciate
all your wonderful support of the channel my friend.
That's disappointing, but you guys work wonders! As always Dave thanks for having us along!
yep but that's railroading. We had a great bunch of guys here Eric that never gave up despite the adversity they faced. Thanks so much
my friend for all your wonderful support of the channel.
@@ccrx6700 Like true railroaders! You're welcome Dave!
Wow, that sucks Dave. To have that sort of problem with just a few days to have the job completed. That really amazes me that the rails can bend like that from the heat. They looked like they had a pretty good curve to them. I sure like how you share all of this with us and the way you explain things. Keep these great videos coming for us.
Thank you so much for the very nice comment. Mistakes
happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable job
and never gave up. Very much appreciate your dropping by
and taking in the presentation my friend.
Dave, Travis here, I love the videos!! been watching since you first started UA-cam. I'm 27 and always had a passion about railroading, its awesome. I love it so much I tried to apply to Pan Am but it's tuff to get into, so I've been a paving guy doing road paving since I was 18. I still might try and apply to work on rails again. but I want to say thank for all your knowledge, good spirt and everything you do, your an inspiration, you definitely are a mentor, keep these awesome videos going. be safe out there sir.
Wow Travis, what an awesome and very nice comment. We are so
glad you are having a good time with us. We really appreciate
all the wonderful support you have given the channel my friend.
That looks like a real headache Dave! Whenever work is done there is a possibility for mistakes. You and your colleagues will come up with a solution. Thank you for sharing Dave, you always keep a positive attitude!
Yep Raymond somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable
job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts.
Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
I learn something new with every video you share Dave. I've come to understand why another railfan would refer to the track as the single biggest moving part of any railroad.
Stay safe sir.
Thank you very much for taking the time to check out the presentation my friend. We really appreciate your visiting with us.
Thanks for taking time after work and showing us. You get a raise.
Thank you for the very kind words, very glad you liked the show.
We very much appreciate your tuning in and watching my friend.
Love watching railwork! Especially with the grappler sliding in the ties… no doubt it’s not his first day!! Keep up the great work!
It is pretty interesting to watch isn't it Paul. Something that not
too many folks ever get to see being done up close. Richard
the operator is 72 and been a railroader all his life. He's not
only a very good operator but a great guy. Thank you my friend
for checking out the video today.
THANK YOU DAVE,,STAY WELL
Your certainly welcome. So nice of you to stop by today and
check out the home movie my friend.
Great maintenance of way work, Stuff we would never get to see, thanks Dave for stopping by on your way home
Thank you Tom for the very nice comment. We certainly appreciate
all your wonderful comments and all the great support you
have given the channel my friend.
Thank you sharing this difficult project issue with us, Dave. James.
Your certainly welcome James. A much needed improvement. Really appreciate your taking the time to watch the video my friend, may you have a very good day. And, if you haven't already done so, check out my second channel with more cool videos on it:
www.youtube.com/@ThatsDavesOtherDoings
Today I learned what a timber dap is. Thanks Dave! 😄
Most folks had no clue what a dap is WheezerOfJuice, now
a whole lot of folks know. The machine they use to cut the daps
at the mill is pretty impressive. I was at the mill watching them
but they asked me not to make any videos there. Glad you
could take the time to write in and to check out the bridge
deck replacement.
Hey Dave, thanks a lot for stopping on your way home just to take that cool video for us. Always appreciate the interesting things you take the time to share 👍
Thank you very much for sending your very kind words. We really
appreciate your tuning in and watch my friend.
Dave, that is the ultimate BUMMER. I guess that is why Norm Abrams always said measure twice, cut once. That is going to be a tough go with all of the fresh creosote. As always, thanks for taking your time after work to get an excellent video, edit it and post it. Awesome!
Things happen Tom, but that's railroading. Just not a part
you want to see. Guys did awesome and worked thru a tough
situation. Next video out will show you more of what they did.
Always enjoy hearing from you my friend.
that is bad when some one screws up, and others have to do the fix it.
I hope that they find who oopsed and make them accountable.
it is just a great watching the skill of the operator move the long
ties, fitting under the rails. making it look so easy! hours of doing
that type of repairs, nice video to see another aspect of railroading! barry
Mistake happen Barry as you well know. But these guys
persevered and got the job done despite the adversity they
faced. Always appreciate your taking the time to visit with
us my friend.
Thanks for explaining that Dave, looking forward to the resolution of the problem. Sounds very labor intensive. Thanks Dave!
Your welcome Jeff. Really appreciate your taking the time
to watch and write in my friend. Here is the next video in that
series where I show you how they made their corrections:
ua-cam.com/video/7-KKDoYjxSs/v-deo.html
Well like you always say , that's railroading ... Good vid of a tough job ... Much appreciated ... Thx Dave for posting these vids ...
Your welcome, very glad to have you stop by and take in the
presentation my friend.
Lots involved in this project of bridge timber replacement. We helped the Bridge and Buildings dept. once and awhile but we usually didn't take care of this. Great video once again Dave. Have a nice rset of your evening.(Steve)
Yes sir, big job. Most RR's as you say, have their own bridge
departments that specialize in this kind of stuff. Really glad
you enjoyed and we certainly appreciate all your wonderful
support of the channel my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Your very welcome Dave and have a nice rest of your evening.
Amazing the effect of the sun on the rails. Thanks Dave
Yep William, glad I could show you a heat buckle. Fortunately
it went back almost to place the next morning after the rails
had cooled, they only had to bar rail over a bit to get it
back in place. Thank you so much for dropping by and checking
out the bridge repairs tonight my friend.
He's doing a great job! Thanks for sharing.
Richard is 72 Valerie. Been a railroader all his life and is a
great guy. We like to see Richard show up here. Men like
that they don't make anymore. Certainly do appreciate all
the wonderful support you have given our channel my friend.
Great video Dave. Only you give us such great detail. That looks like a lot of notching to do. Have a great day my friend.
Thank you so much Lewis for your always positive and kind
comments. We very much appreciate all your wonderful
support my friend.
Dave, I was building a new run around and at one end was a bridge 🌉 that required 65 timber. Being we were going over water 💧, we had to use Green Treated Timber. No dap.
We removed the old Timber, cleaned off the steel, gave it a quick coat of red Primer paint, then laid Convear belt onto the beams for cushion.
Since we had no dap, I tacked 6 Timber together then marked out for the dap.
Using a good circular saw & a 60 tooth blade, I just kept going back and forth, about a 1/4 inch between passes.
Took my hammer and broke the wood off then cleaned up what was left with a chisel.
The beam was about 18 inches wide 😳.
Stay safe my friend,
Richard Bause
I'm surprised the EPA still allows many RR to use creosoted
timbers over streams. Good job on the hand dapping, that's
a lot of work! They used a circular saw and a hand adze for
these. Always appreciate your joining in with us and checking
things out my friend.
@@ccrx6700 thanks my friend.
When it comes to water 💧, EPA & DEC are always looking over your shoulder 👀.
How hard some people work. Good video keep em alive !
Thank you very much for the nice comment. We really appreciate
your taking the time to watch and write in. Kudos to these
guys who never gave up and dealt with a very tough situation.
Thanks for this video!
Looks like someone from the past left your folks quite a mess!
Your welcome Robin. Our timber supplier has original prints for some
of the bridges and some they can't find them, this one they
couldn't find. Guy who measured did not measure center span
girder right. A big mistake, but mistakes happen to the best of
us. These guys did a remarkable job in what they had to
deal with. Always appreciate it when you come to visit with
us my friend.
I just love channel and you seem to have best personality. Keep up the amazing work Dave
Thank you very much Rob for the very kind words. So glad you
are enjoying. We certainly appreciate your wonderful support my friend.
Contractor is doing a great job thanks Dave for letting us look over your shoulder great video thanks again
Thank you Gary for the really nice comment. Cannot say
enough how much we appreciate your kind words and for
taking the time to watch tonight my friend.
He makes it look easy, some one with lots of experience
Thank you for the nice comment and glad you liked the video B GE. Really appreciate your taking the time to check it out and may
you have a very good day my friend.
By golly that is pretty bad but the crew is going to over come and get the bridge back in service on time. Take care, stay safe and good luck.
Yes they did EJ, those guys persevered and got the job done,
Kudos to them for their excellent efforts. Always is a pleasure
to have you visit with us my friend. Thank You.
That's a swift kick in you know what! How you handle adversity speaks volume! Great video Dave.
We were lucky Brian to have such a great bunch of guys here who
persevered and never gave up. Thanks so much for the very
nice comment and for all your wonderful support of the channel
my friend.
Time to make lemonade. Thanks for the unique footage and insight.
Your welcome Matt. Really nice to have you join in with us
playing on the bridge my friend. I'm sure those guys would
have loved a cold glass of lemonade on those really hot days.
@@ccrx6700 Absolutely, referring to the dapped timbers, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. 😀
That’s a dang good operator right there! Great video,Dave! Also love seeing safety is first and foremost!
That really stinks about the dap not being cut wide enough. A lot of work to make it right. Thanks for explaining what dap is! I was way wrong as I thought it was for the tie plates. Also Dave,on a curved bridge like that with some super elevation on the track,can that be accomplished by the dap angle where it meets the bridge girder? Be safe out there friend!
Yes he is Rusty. Richard is 72 years of age and a really good
operator. One of the best, We always tease Lucky about how
he needs to learn from Richard, along with some more
colorful railroad humor....LOL Thank you so much for checking
out the presentation tonight my friend.
Thank you, Dave, for taking your time and showing us this.
Your very welcome Robert. Thank you so much for the kind words
and for taking the time to watch my friend.
Wow! How one mistake can have a huge impact on a job .
Hope it all pans out okay .
Thanks for showing us Dave 👍
Mistakes happen, this one was a big mistake, but the guys
persevered and got the job done despite the adversity they
faced. Kudos to them. Very much appreciate your deciding
to tune in and watch the show today my friend.
Engineer sir.
Works are very amazing. by replace of crossing bars on the railway track. It is very systematic hard works also. Thankyou for introducing of this informable video.
Yep Thomas somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable
job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts.
Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
Every jobs a big job
Thanks for the video
That's railroading Kevin. :-) Always glad to have you stop
by and visit with us my friend. Thank You.
that was interesting thankyou for explaining the terms as im in uk looking forward to next bridge episode
Very glad you enjoyed Robert, thank you for the really nice comment. Appreciate your visiting with us and watching. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Wow, that was unfortunate Dave, I feel for all involved! Good luck with it all!
Yep Dave somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But
mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable
job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts.
Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
Great video Dave. Somebody is going to have a dirty job cutting the dap wider. Stuff happens so they say. 🙏
Thank you Jim. Early next week will be another video out
where I show you what they did to widen the dap, it was a pain,
but they got it done, but that's railroadin. Thank you so much
my friend for dropping by and watching tonight.
Omg I could feel the the cursing over here in the uk 😂😂😂dam good team thanks Dave for the vid hope it gets sorted out soon.
These guys had some tough things to deal with Lawrie, but
they persevered and got thru it. Kudos to them for that. We
were lucky to have such a fine group of men on this job
who didn't give up. Always appreciate your visiting with us
my friend.
Man o man that had to be gutting for the guys when that fitment problem was discovered. Hopefully the trimming goes smoothly, the heat buckle gets drawn back into place, and the train can start rolling on schedule!
Fantastic video Dave! Thanks for showing the good days annnnd the bad days!
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Thank you for the very nice comment. These guys did a heck
of a job sticking with some tough situations. Kudos to them
specially in that really hot weather. Buckle cam back in when
it cooled off over night, they just had to bar it over a bit into
place. Will show you more of the trim work in the next video
out this week. Appreciate your watching my friend.
You’re the best my friend!
Thank you for the kind words Paul. We really appreciate your taking
the time to watch the videos my friend.
The person operating the crane has skills a job well done
Anthony that operator is 72 years of age. he is an excellent
operator and a really great guy. hard worker, I can only
speak in superlatives when talking about him. Thank you so
much my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
Another great video, Dave! Skill is not handling when everything is going according to plan, it's how you act when it isn't :)
Thank you my good man. You are so right about the skills.
Great pilots are not made in calm seas, they are made in
rough seas. Very much appreciate your visiting with us and
taking in the video tonight.
Had some Uncles on the MOW crews for the CSX Gainesville Midland RR. We got old ties to build bridges over the creeks and rivers on our farm.. And for corner posts for pasture fences. They worked great.
Got many a tie for a post here on my farm also Tom.
Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch. May
you have a most blessed day my friend.
Hi Dave, oops somebody has an elasticated tape measure!
Thank you for your time to film and to show us your updates, I suppose if you were to use a combination of new timbers and old soft ones would that increase the risk of rail bending and fracture in time?
Thank you and have a great weekend.
Rgds, Peter.
Yep Peter somebody measure wrong on the center span girders. But
mistakes happen to the best of us. These guys did a remarkable
job and never gave up. Kudos to them for their supreme efforts.
Really thank you my friend for taking the time to watch and write in.
That sucks that those daps were cut wrong! When you do widen them, won't they be too wide? Just wondering if the notch locks them in place, and if their too wide they will slip around? Sounds like you have the bent rail problem handled, but that bad dap cut problem really sucks. 😖
Timber supply company dapped the timbers the way they were
given the measurements. Unfortunately the guy who measured
did not measure the center girder right. But mistakes happen
to the best of us. My dad always said to err is human, to forgive
divine. Dap in the timbers helps to keep them from sliding
laterally on the girders. On bridges that have curves the daps
are cut to also add in super elevation on the high rail.
Always appreciate your coming out to visit with us my friend.
Will show you more of what they did in the next video coming out
soon.
@@ccrx6700 👍
That man is a surgeon with that crane! It’s like an extreme version of the game Operation 😮
That man is 72 years of age Joshua! Been a railroader all his
life. Excellent operator and a great guy to be around and have
on the job. There nothing he hasn't done on the RR. Thank you
so much for paying us a visit and checking out the show my friend.
Looking good Dave.. Thanks fir the update.
Your welcome northernliving. Always is a pleasure to have you
visit with us my friend. Glad you enjoyed the show.
Great video Dave, that can really mess things up!!
Thank you Ron. Very much appreciate all your wonderful support
of the channel you have given us my friend.
Murphy is at it again! Dang him!
Yep, but he could have picked a cooler day to show up....LOL. We certainly do appreciate your visiting with us Paul and checking out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Never a dull moment on the railroad! Looks like a job for a skilled chainsaw person. Very interesting video Dave. I like learning how things are done especially on construction projects. Look forward to the next installment.
Agreed- circular saw for vertical cut, then chainsaw horizontal rip cut. Sounds tricky and back breaking, but fast! Maybe make a temporary "bench" at good working height and have grapple truck move them on and off.
@@alandaters8547 Excellent idea!
Always an adventure here Wilbur. These guys did a remarkable
job dealing with the adversity and high heat. They never gave up.
We give them a big thumbs up for their efforts. More to show
you on the bridge in the next video out. Thanks so much my
friend for all your great comments and wonderful support of
the channel.
Good one, Dave. Thanks
Thank you very much Chris, glad you enjoyed. Really
appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch the
video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
I love the smell of creosote and most other petroleum distillates.
Someday I'm gonna figure out how to make a scratch and smell
video, creosote will permeate the viewers home location when
that happens.... :-) Railroaders love the smell of creosote
on a very hot day.... Thank you so much my friend for
visiting with us tonight.
Great video Dave, looks like someone had a big boo boo. Someone will have to answer to that😳 Looks like OT is needed to get this done Now. Thats railroading. Thanks again Dave 👍 🚂 Please keep us updated
Timber supply company dapped the timbers the way they were
given the measurements. Unfortunately the guy who measured
did not measure the center girder right. But mistakes happen
to the best of us. My dad always said to err is human, to forgive
divine. Always appreciate your coming out to visit with us my friend.
Will show you more of what they did in the next video coming out
soon Christopher.
Thank you, it fun to watch n learn
Thank you for the nice comment David and your welcome. Really appreciate your visiting with us to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Those old timbers seem to be in relatively good shape!
Some of them were, some weren't. Can't judge a timber from
just the tops. Got to watch underneath as a train goes over the
bridge. If the timbers are moving up and down, those timbers
are soft and spongy and not a good thing. When that happens,
it's time to replace all of the timbers. Very much appreciate
your stopping by and checking out the show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 I see what you mean, does that railroad interchange at all with others, or is it strictly load and unload the same cars point A to point B?
They should put a dado blade on a circular saw and cut to width. It's gonna take a long time, but it's quicker than reordering, I'm guessing. Thank you for getting out there and showing the details on this project. This stuff is fascinating.
Stay tuned, next week will be the sequel to this video where
I show you what they did to widen the daps. Very much appreciate
your taking the time to drop by and check out the video today
my friend.
Aww what a setback Dave and it was going so well up to then. It is not just the problem of getting the dap cut wider but one of having the tools on site to do it and turning each timber over to cut then back the right way up again all adding time to the work. At least it was not 3am on a cold winters night which is when a lot of jobs like that run into problems over here. Over Christmas there are a few big jobs planned but we have strikes so I can see a lot of delays getting things fixed on schedule.
Yes it was a significant set back but as you know cedarcam,
that's railroading. :-) It happens to the best of us. Guys did an awesome job persevering despite the adversity and high heat.
But like you say on a cold winter night it would have been
far worse to deal with. Hope things get resolved on the labor
issues. At least the RR workers here won't be going on strike,
if they did, that would cripple our country in a very short time.
Always appreciate your faithfulness in watching my friend.
Thanks
Your certainly welcome Vince. Appreciate very much your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
Dave you had another really good video again tonight so I put on my railroad hardhat and my 🦺 to watch your video tonight
Thank you so much Mike. We gonna have to get some That's Railroading stickers made up so you can paste them on your
hard hat...:-) Glad to hear you enjoyed. Always is a pleasure to
have you visit with us my friend.
Richard certainly has a deft touch as an operator!
Thank you for the kind words J. mygrant. You are right, he is a really
good operator. Appreciate very much your checking out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Yeah I know that loads of fun I actually am a timber framer and deal with massive timbers all day long so yeah they're going to have fun and it's got preservatives in it what fun
We could have used your expertise here Kevin! Why didn't
you show up before I made the video back in June? ... LOL
Very much appreciate your taking the time to tune in and
watch my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Well I hate to say it I live in Greenville South Carolina and I'm quite a few hours away from you you should always talk to the Amish which is kind of funny because that's how I learned the basics of timber framing was from a Amish group that was traveling teaching timber framing
Though me not being Amish obviously put a modern twist on it instead of using a double Buck saw I use a 16 in 25 amp skil saw
The crane operator has a good touch. It is almost as if he handles those big timbers with thumb and forefinger. Amazong.
It was a very hot week Thomas. Richard is 72 and stayed up
there on that grapple all day long. He is a good man, everyone
likes Richard. I will give him your compliments next time I see him.
Great video
Thank you Craig, very glad you had a good time watching.
We certainly appreciate your taking the time to visit with us
and write in my friend.
I worked track for NYCT on elevated structure 25 years, break out the chain saw. Minor set back!!
Mistakes do happen, sadly in this case it cost them a good bit
of time and the bridge deck did not get completed yet. But, that's
railroading. Really appreciate your stopping by and checking out
the show my fellow railroader.
@@ccrx6700 you would be amazed on how track is renewed and maintained in New York City Tranist. Some parts of the job we still work the old basics, and other parts modern-day. It is a well rounded education of track, from ballast, concrete to bridge (structure), tangent, curves and switches. Be safe out there. Always get home the same way you left!!
That really turned out to be a problem, anxious to see the solution.
Yep Russell, but that's railroading.... :-) Mid next week you
will see the third video in this mini series and in that one will
show you what they did to fix the daps. So stay tuned. Always is
a pleasure to have you visit with me my friend.
I was cringing when you were on the bridge by where the railroad ties were taken out. That looked like a long drop😬 Just watching the video brought back memories of being afraid of heights. I couldn’t do the job you do
it is most interesting David, I too am afraid of heights, I don't
even like getting up on a step ladder, yet being on one of our
RR bridges doesn't bother me at all, that's really weird. Thank
you very much for stopping by and checking out the deck
replacement my friend.
Hi Dave. I thought you guys had already started working on this bridge back in October?
Deck replacement was done last week in June. We got the
deck timbers delivered last March which was shown in the last
video. My time schedules on videos are often far ahead of when
I made them. Appreciate your checking out the show tonight
my friend.
Always interesting!👌
Thank you Paul, glad you enjoyed the video.
Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch. May
you have a most blessed day my friend.
Ahhhh! That’s railroadin!
Yes it is Bill, just not a part of railroading you like to see, but
it happens and as you know, railroaders find a way to get thru
tough situations. Really appreciate all your wonderful support
of the channel my friend.
I live near a tie plant where they creosote. When a delivery of new ties is shipped out, you can smell the fresh ties about 3/4 of a mile behind the semi on the interstate. Sometimes it makes you wonder if you’re suddenly having engine problems because of the smell 😂 I can’t imagine working all day in the heat right next to them.
Creosote is some wicked stuff. I rather imagine when the wind
is right Will you get a whiff of that from time to time at your
home. Very much appreciate all the great support you have
given the channel and for all you wonderful comments my friend.
A circular saw and a couple of 2" chisels. Set the blade to the depth you need, make a bunch of kerfs and then chip out the flakes with the chisels. I just finished a major amount of dap corrections for the miter rail seats on a drawbridge. The bascule and approach spans had a grade mismatch at the heel. It involved lowering eight 60" by 30" miter rail seat plates and then run off the grade change by dapping the approach span ties.
Not too hard to do, but watch the that the wind doesnt blow the sawdust onto your sweaty body during a hot day. I've even set up fans and blowers to blow the sawdust away from me. Creosote affects people differently. Me, not so much, I've seen it peel the skin off of other people like a really bad sunburn.
Your right, creosote can cause some nasty burns. My dad was
a lineman for the local power company and back then they
climbed creosoted poles. Great idea on the fans. They could have
used your help on these my friend. Always appreciate your
taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
Gosh Dave, that's a big deal with no easy or quick fix. Takes the steam right outa the old boiler. Like you always say that's railroading, but not the way we like to see it. Stay safe Dave and thanks for the update!!
No easy fix Rick, but these guys persevered and saw it thru despite
the adversity they faced. Kudos to them. Appreciate the nice
comment and for checking out the show today my friend.
Dave 2nd spans over the road my guess? If the person doing tie data look from under side would have seen that especially on solid deck ! Also on class 1s we call the long ties outriggers another thing in hot weather only take out 12 ties put back 12 button up move on that keeps rail from kinking ! 42 years in bridge dept put on thousands of ties ! When i frist started we daped all are tie at frist with 2 man cross cut saw and foot adz then later added chainsaw we thought we were in heaven !!
Thank you so much for the great comment. yep center span
over the road. The guy measuring did not take into account the
approach span girders were not as wide as center girders.
I have no idea why they did not spike the rail down like you
said it should have been done. I wondered that myself, but
rail did come back in when it cooled off that night. To correct
the dap, that's what they used was a hand adze, will show
that in the next video coming out. Really appreciate your
watching today my friend. Wish you had been here to add
in your expertise. Railroad experience is invaluable, can't find out
what guys like you know from reading a book about it.
The timbers taken out of the bridge looked to be in good condition. Why were they replaced? Thanks for your great videos!
If you had watched a train pass over the bridge from underneath
then you would have seen the timbers were spongy also some of
them were still in decent shape, some were not holding spikes.
Thank you very much for taking the time to check out the video my friend.
@@ccrx6700 ah ha--don't just look but watch/observe and inspect. Great to watch the care you all take with your road...
@@j.mygrant3752 😊👍 thank you
From the video the bridge did not look that bad. Thanks Dave
Some of them were, some weren't Wayne. Can't judge a timber from
just the tops. Got to watch underneath as a train goes over the
bridge. If the timbers are moving up and down, those timbers
are soft and spongy and not a good thing. When that happens,
it's time to replace all of the timbers. Very much appreciate
your stopping by and checking out the show my friend.
Many years ago (1950s), my Dad and his friends got hold of some half-crossties, hauled them out to a little island in the Laguna Madre, and made a foundation for a fishing cabin. I think the cabin is still there.
Lot's of good uses for used ties and timbers. Glad to see
they weren't going to waste Thomas. Thank you so much for
checking out the bridge problems my friend.
Dave, been a fan a long time. If you need to get rid of the ties, I am a volunteer with the North Alabama Railroad Museum and they are in desperate need for as many ties as the can get their hands on. I've been a fan for a while, definitely enjoy your humor and upbeat spirit.
We generally do give the timbers away, they are still here, but
trucking them to you would cost a small fortune, but if you're still
interested, write me back. Of course trucking would be on
you guys expense. Very glad you are enjoying the home movies
my friend. We certainly appreciate your wonderful support.
@@ccrx6700 how many do you have available so I can let the director know
@@EH-nw6bu bout 140 right now. We may have more this winter if they change the east end approach. Its not done yet
Where are you located
Assuming this is a multi-span bridge and the dapping error is just at the main span. The approach spans are likely shorter than the main span, so the girder flanges are likely narrower, and center-to-center of girders is also quite possibly different. If measurements for the tie dapping were taken in the field on just one of the approach spans that would explain it. Original plans could also not reflect what was actually constructed. Draftsman specialized in railway structures here, learned a long time ago to require that field measurements are taken at each span.
You are exactly right. Center girder is wider and measurement
was taken on approach ones, a fatal mistake. Our timber supply
company has several of the original US Steel prints for some
of our bridges but they could not find the one for Bridge 8. Thanks
so much for watching and writing in my friend. Excellent comment,
you are a thinking man.
Looks like some dicey work there :) Only the best trained crews and skilled operators here. This is way above the ground and there aren't a lot of places to get out of harm's way. Who would have thought bad daps would be such an issue. How would you have known they weren't dapped correctly unless you had known up front that X number of the timbers needed a different dap on one part of the bridge. Add in the heat warp and - well - this looks like a huge evolution for sure. I feel for you folks, even though that's railroadin' - it is a bunch of work you folks hadn't planned on.
Guys had their hands full on this one Brian. They persevered and
never gave up and with the high heat, we have to give them a
lot of thumbs up. Thanks for the very nice comment and for
taking the time to watch my friend.
Wow!! 😯 somebody messed up big time. Hopefully it won't take too long to get it fixed right.
Will show you in the next video out what the guys did to re do
the dap. It was a pain, but they did what they had to do.
Unwanted things sometimes happen on the railroad as in
life itself. But these guys persevered and never gave up. Thanks
so much my friend for checking out the presentation.
Hello from Los Angeles California. What is the purpose of the set of small rails that for example that are in the middle of the actual tracks the train ride on on a bridge that meet at a point on each end? i wish I could've explained it better, sorry.
Those are guard rails. If a derailment occurs on the bridge, the guard rails keep the derailed car close to the running rails so it doesn't fall off the bridge.
You explained it perfectly my friend. here is a video I made
that tells you everything you ever wanted to know about the
bridge guard rails.
ua-cam.com/video/M9HZTKMyim8/v-deo.html