Sim-Lab GT1 Evo Cockpit Review
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Here is my latest cockpit review, this time taking a look at the Sim-Lab GT1 Evo! This latest cockpit from Sim-Lab is their new entry level Aluminum Extrusion based cockpit, slotting into a competitive price bracket. How does this cockpit stack up?
After a long time overbuilding a Wheelstand Pro, I am finally buying this cockpit.
Thanks for the review William, rest in peace.
@@JubbLaRacing Check out Boosted Media's video about Sim Racing Paddock. You will know why afterwards. Peace.
Still getting some pedal flex on the high end stuff it seems. Looks like it would be a great rig for anything outside of an OSW/Heavy pedal setup.
This looks perfect for my csl elite.
I'm just wondering if it would be better to mount the pedals directly onto the frame and angle them with their own hardware, instead of using the pedal plate?
Just completing my build with Ricmotech Real Gear GT1 pedals and plate. Mounting directory to 40/80 cross members. 0 flex. Photos to follow.
I can't really see, but is that seat base tilted backwards or parrelel to the floor?
what would be better to buy for about the same price? or a bit more
Miss this dude. Still helping me long after he's gone. 😢
HE PASSED AWAY??
@@akura2 took his own life. Watch out for people, you never know. ✌️
@@philclarke7712 wow… sorry to hear… RIP
@@akura2 I actually spoke to him a few weeks before... He found time for anyone that reached out. Had no idea he was struggling. Very sad. Possibly the best representation of sim racing that we had out there at the time. He was the best of us.
Not sure what the complaint about the instructions is? Shows you how to put two pieces together and there's not exactly 500 lengths of aluminium so it's pretty easy to figure out which bit attaches to which from the picture....
I mounted the rail for the shifter on the outer side with the two additional angles that come with the package. Gives you a better adjustability to move the rail forward or backward. First added rolls underneath but soon switched to some silent blocks to get rid of noise that shakes through the chassis.
Nice job looks like a great rig I'd love to try one out myself sometime !
We want STRIM boldylocks lol
Great review bud! That rig looks clean!!
my dd wheel is rock solid if u want a cockpit this is the ONE
it is funny how some reviews says it is perfectly fine for dd wheels and others says it is not.
I am waiting it to arrive and I will mount a small mige 20nm on it, and I am sure it will be totally OK.
SuperMonaco_GP How is it with the DD?
Yes, how is it?
@@acmarston how is it?
Any chance for review of SIMETIK K2 cockpit? Would love to hear your opinion on that.
nice thanks, that is going to be my sons rig.
What DD base did you use? It seems as though the 10nm or below DD bases work fine on this cockpit
I don’t get any flex on my GT1 Evo using an AccuForce Pro v2 and Fanatec ClubSport v3 pedals. I am 6’1” so needed to get taller uprights for the wheel deck.
Hi, you can't have torqued the rig up properly as mine has zero flex with 30nm DD wheel
I totally agree. He did something wrong
THANK YOU, So misreading! Gonna buy a DD this year, confident it’ll do the job
Great Review William !!!!
Extruded aluminum structure isn't designed to flex - it doesn't. The build quality (or manufacture assembly) would be the problem with flexing. A simple brace or proper construction would fix flexing. And most importantly, those very tiny 90 degree anchor points are WEAK. (look at the 2:25 mark) If those were 3"x 3" with two anchor bolts each face, there wouldn't be any flex. The flex isn't coming from the chassis, its the given hardware. And as a private jet mechanic, we kinda know stuff ;) Take care.
hi, so you think it could be possible to fix the amount of flex of the wheel tray by using some other anchor points and bolts than the ones are given with the rig?
thanks
@@_xndrzt Absolutely. like I said, if the 90deg anchor supports were larger and allowing for another bolt on each face to be installed, the would get rid a bunch of flex. Bigger anchor = decreasing leverage. One more bolt on each face = decrease leverage thus flexing.
Thanks for your straight talking review. Seeing it with TS-XW wheel looks the combo for me. I’m after a rally setup. Going from a G29 wheel & crappy basic play seat. Fanatec combo with the accessories for a rally makes the price explode. Or am I wrong? So much choice!
Haha big save big smile, love it !
Great Review! Good to hear your thoughts on DD wheel for it. Sounds like the P1 is better for those.
No thus guybis obviously an idiot. On simlabs it clearly states yiu have to buy a wheel bar for direct drive wheels. Stock wheel deck is for logitech, thrustmaster or lower end ffb. So you buy the gt1 evo and a direct drive wheel mount
So, i cant decide what to get. the Rseat Rs1 or the GT1 evo. atm im using the TX servo, T3pa pros & the TH8a, i will want to add a handbrake which will go next to the shifter in the future.
Did you ever decide which to get
Are u able to put the shifter on the left instead of right
Ben O Connor yes
William, at 4:25 you say that the wheeldeck is rocksolid, but at the same time you show the footage and it appears to have quite some flex in it. It's not noticable?.
The Pedal Deck wasn't really the bit that was flexing. Under braking, it was actually the front of the cockpit dipping into my old carpet (sometimes plush carpet does have its downsides xD). You can see the front of the cockpit dip down into the carpet.
Does it work well with fanatec clubsport v2.5, shifter sq, and csl elite pedals LC?
Or would you recommend spending a little more for GT1? or even P1?
Not looking to upgrade wheelbase to DD anytime soon (maybe 2, 3 yrs later)
Also, how long did it take to receive it?
Thanks for this review. I am looking at purchasing either the GT1 or the P1 when they are back in stock. Still trying to decide if this will be enough when I eventually upgrade to a Fanatec DD1. My gut tells me to get the p1 for futureproofing. I would be curious about your thoughts on the matter based on your experience with the GT1 and your OSW.
202TheRocker you could just add to this cockpit with a couple of extra aluminium lengths and large metal bolt plates to strengthen it up. That’s the joy of this material, as you can buy these parts later and fit to suit. I just bought one for a clubsport v2.5 and will use it when I upgrade to a dd1
I still don't understand why simple cockpits like this are so pricey. Really would like to know what the actual price mark up is....you'd probably choke in my opinion.
Well, go figure out out how much it would cost you to source all the parts for it then.
@@NickG40 wasn't be a smartass...I've been a delivery driver for companies for several yrs dealing with that material...let's just say I see prices.
@@NickG40 buying bulk is a completely different price as in buying per 8' or 10' length.
Yep that's like saying why did I buy a car I work for no named car manufacturer I know the cost of making that car........ and the price markup for a sim lab rig is less then 20% I know I have 3 of them. When u add in cutting of the profile custom hardware mounts for osw or the wheel deck this has. Your not just paying for the alloy you are paying for the customer service you get with it. If you can build this rig for cheaper getting the same wheel mount pedal mount.... maybe you should start selling them as well
@@WhiteHawk77 it's a standard set rig, not custom. Purchasing bulk is alot less than piece by piece as in custom built. Custom rigs I understand because of waste. Set standards no.
Question, you seem to be the same'ish size as me.
How do you like the NRG seat? And how do you fit in it? Have not found any decent big boi review on this seat yet.
Do you think there is any flex with the CSL DD on 5Nm or 8Nm?
no
There is a way to make the GT1 EVO work with Servo based Wheelbases but you got to spend a little more on reinforcing it.......IE larger corner brackets and corner/side plates....in other words reinforce the S**T out of it!....Plus I'm working on invert mounting my Heusinkveld Sprint Pedals as we speak using 4040 and part of the original baseplate. think a little and spend a little more you will be ok!
The light blue seat does not look like it would age well...
Thanks for the review.
According to the Simlab support, the gt1 Evo is more versatile than the gt2 which is more compact. For example, front mount, Inverted pedals rack, ... are available for gt1 ans not gt2.
For me, one detail is the fact that you can adjust the pedal plate in 2 dimensions which is not possible with the gt2.
So the gt1 seems to be more ajustable than the gt2.
What do you think about that ?
Bro he’s dead
@@helsamna3895The GT2 is still on their website but obsviously in the future it'll be replaced so my comment is OK at the date i did it. I bought the GT1 evo and i'm happy with it.
Maybe you speak about the man, so rest in peace
Great review! Are there any extra bracing/upgrades you can make to beef up the cockpit for direct drive?
Yes, they recently released an upgrade for it that helps it with DD Wheels. I just mounted it on, and there's a video clip of me testing it on Instagram!
@@Simracingpaddocklink please? And will it handle a 5-8nm dd?
i wonder what would be the price making something similar all by myself, if its like 150-200 euros maybe worth? nonetheless great review
I did some researching last night, and roughly piecing out the parts would come to about $200 or so in the profiling alone. Add some extra cost for the brackets, hardware, and making a wheel/pedal tray, and it would come to maybe around $275-$300 ish?
@@Simracingpaddock hmm i bet they buy everything in bulk so it should be a lot cheaper for them, but honestly the price is quite good as it is, too bad its kinda flimsy for direct drive wheel so its not your final stop cockpit, i think it would be possible to reinforce wheel stand without spending double.
can you make a video explaining how to adapt a real car seat on a sim cockpit?
Simple: by some seat mounting rails and then bolt everything onto it. You can get them from SimLab with your order or slightly cheaper off ebay. The seat itself is your own choice. I got mine off ebay, a Sparco R100. Maybe a bit too stiff for my taste.
Not liking the wheel deck being nonadjustable angle wise...unless I'm missing something.
You can adjust the angle up or down by some degrees depending on how you mount it.
How does this compare to the K2?
You have the Direct drive wheel mounted wrong
Matthew Hillman what wheel do you use daily?
Hey dude. Nice video! Can you name me your seat?
The seat I used for my testing was the NRG FRP-300. I got the seat/rails/brackets for $250 on Amazon in the USA.
@@Simracingpaddock Thanks mate.
What seat are you using? Any recommendations on where to find a good seat?
Their website
Local Scrap Yard!
I wish I could afford that
Which monitors do you use?
Great video! I just got my fanatec DD1 base and thinking between GT1 EVO and the P1 -X which is much more expensive. Which one do you think is better for a direct drive wheel. Is the P1 -X worth the 400 € difference?
I haven't driven a P1X, but I recently got the chance to drive a friend's P1, and I'd say that the difference is pretty significant. I'd say it would likely be worth the difference.
I just feel the main struggling point of the Evo right now is the wheel deck. Granted, I haven't tried a DD1 on an Evo, but I just think there would be more movement than I'd be comfortable with.
When I tried the DD2 on a friend's P1, it was 100% solid, felt no flex whatsoever.
@@Simracingpaddock Thanks mate, appreciate that
How much is shipping to the u.s.?
Over $100. Plus 2 weeks to build on there end and 1-2weeks shipping. I have a brand new black gt1 evo for sale. Never opened.
can you edit the angle of the wheel?
Yes
Yeah they have really bad instructions. it was the same for the triple stand. Quality product, but terrible instructions.
3:06 what rim is that?
That is the Turn R1 Pro Thrustmaster. It's basically an open topped steering wheel mounted onto the Ferrari 458 GTE rim button box.
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How does the Sim-Lab compare to the simetik k2 rig?
did you make any progress with this thought. i'm leaning toward s the k2 or the Extreme Simracing Cockpit www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FZ86BLT/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
as cool as the whole 80/20 thing might be, I understand its more sturdy, but at the end of the day I might be fine with something with a little wiggle if it looks better than the 80/20 stuff
Of course, because youre a hypebeast
a l u m i n i u m . M I N I U M NOT M I N U M
wrong.
Lol depends where in the planet your located 😉
@@RTAMOTORSPORTS NO IT DOESNT
@@beshjs408 YUPPPPPP -INUM
I was quite disappointed when you said it's Evo's wheeldeck is not designed to handle DD wheels and that it has considerable flex. I wasn't expecting even from entry-level 8020. I also saw on reddit report it has some flex. But then I saw other review where he claimed "there's no hint of movement in wheeldeck and pedal plate":
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What I'm curious about is that Chris' review is about 2 months after mine, and what I find interesting is that his Direct Drive Wheel Mount is slightly more sturdy than mine... So I'm curious if they ended up improving it after my review, because you can clearly tell in his review there is almost no flex.
@@Simracingpaddock Yes it looks like they improved the wheeldeck, because he confirmed in comments: "I can only report what I've found, which is that it's rock solid (as you can see in the video). I'm still using the rig 6 months later and am very happy with it". I may ask Sim-lab directly via email whether they improved it (or planning to) and let you know if I get an answer.
1 this wheel deck is for dd but it does work. But they sell a dd mount for this rig on there site.
What's with your input lag? You turn the wheel and there's a massive delay on the screen. I've got AC as well and when I play there is no lag at all.
I'm not sure, I need to try to figure out what's going on. I'm hoping it's not going to require a factory reset, but I just don't know what the heck is going on haha
EDIT: Realized my driver was about 5 months out of date. Just did a clean install of the latest driver, and it helped a LOT