Super CVs & Jets?! WG Is Drunk.

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  • Imagine reading all the negative feedback about CVs and still deciding to squeeze in new Super CVs with jet planes into randoms. Now that's being out of touch.
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  • @Flamuu
    @Flamuu  2 роки тому +225

    If you ever feel like you're out of touch with something, don't fear, you can never be as out of touch as WG is these days.
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    • @gotfrydzbouillon4191
      @gotfrydzbouillon4191 2 роки тому

      Welll....
      ua-cam.com/video/6qtHO1uij3k/v-deo.html

    • @tirandeshibaraki743
      @tirandeshibaraki743 2 роки тому +1

      The USS United States looks a Forrestal class CV. Odd that they didn't go with that class instead.

    • @simeonbailey9799
      @simeonbailey9799 2 роки тому +2

      You could say that again

    • @mcsquared4238
      @mcsquared4238 2 роки тому +1

      I dont play cv's much and tbh i dont play this game that much in general but why am i the only one who plays that class ever cus ive never had trouble with dealing with cv's past a few moments in a DD and when i play with a cv anything other than a few types of lone DD's seems to blow every single plane ive ever had out the water.
      I agree super cv's are bad but thats because i think the super ship tier is a bad idea if theyre going to be paired up with lower tiers
      But for the love of god give tell me why those things are op because i just don't get it.

    • @TheStefanskoglund1
      @TheStefanskoglund1 2 роки тому +1

      @@tirandeshibaraki743 Revolt of the admirals - against USAF's SAC and Truman

  • @jacobszymczak9323
    @jacobszymczak9323 2 роки тому +1227

    WG: "Am I so out of touch?"
    *"No. Its the players who are wrong"*

    • @lexwaldez
      @lexwaldez 2 роки тому +26

      WG would never pose the question "Are we out of touch." WG would ask "Why are our players and CC's so stupid?"

    • @chrisaustin9949
      @chrisaustin9949 2 роки тому

      @@JohnSmith-cb6qx You tell us. Why do you keep playing?

    • @TheOriginalShakuraz
      @TheOriginalShakuraz 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnSmith-cb6qx
      You anger all the little keyboard ninjas who put all the money in that game, their mommies earned so hard.

    • @RhomasTotevenaar
      @RhomasTotevenaar 2 роки тому +2

      nah bro silent majority

    • @stefanpajung113
      @stefanpajung113 2 роки тому +2

      I read that in Principal Skinner's voice :D

  • @jlthiess
    @jlthiess 2 роки тому +595

    Ah yes, I’d forgot about the part of the Battle of the Denmark Strait where Blackburn Buccaneers found and sank the Bismarck with anti-ship missiles within minutes of her leaving port. So excited to finally be able to re-enact this iconic moment in game.

    • @domitiusseverus1
      @domitiusseverus1 2 роки тому +12

      😂 I know right

    • @TheBaralinChannel
      @TheBaralinChannel 2 роки тому +36

      Yes, I too play World of Warships for its widely recognized and esteemed historical accuracy. Give me a break.

    • @thomasembleton1467
      @thomasembleton1467 2 роки тому +22

      Amusingly buccaneers are in timeframe thanks to the sverdlov class cruisers that are already in game!

    • @177SCmaro
      @177SCmaro 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheBaralinChannel
      The problem is THIS inaccuracy is breaking the game.

    • @TheBaralinChannel
      @TheBaralinChannel 2 роки тому

      @@177SCmaro It's not even in the game yet for us to know if it'll break it :V

  • @Halbostfriese
    @Halbostfriese 2 роки тому +908

    WG 2017: "USS Enterprise will soon be available. Her specialty is a strong drop per strike."
    WG 2023: "USS Enterprise will soon be available. Her specialty is her high speed compared to other vessels at Warp 9,5 with strong phaser banks and multiple launchers for photon torpedoes."

    • @SaiIor_Moon
      @SaiIor_Moon 2 роки тому +31

      -WoWs x Star Trek collab when WG?-

    • @platiuscyndar9017
      @platiuscyndar9017 2 роки тому +57

      WG 2025: "USS Enterprise will soon be available. Her speciality is her large bulk at 3 miles length, combined with heavy armament, shielding, and her capability to field unlimited repair teams."

    • @benjamingasaway9882
      @benjamingasaway9882 2 роки тому +24

      I'm sorry I did not hear you mentioning anything about the continues cloaking device that dose not care about shooting at things, the shields rated at being able to repel multiple solar luminosity's also it might be able to blow you up in the past. Can't forget the important stuff now can we.

    • @DerKurfuerst
      @DerKurfuerst 2 роки тому +17

      @@benjamingasaway9882 no cloaking. We have to stay somewhat historical!

    • @joncouncil4454
      @joncouncil4454 2 роки тому +3

      @@DerKurfuerst We kind already have that. Subs.... (At least that's what the Bird Of Prey was supposed to mimic originally in fighting style)

  • @DinoHade
    @DinoHade 2 роки тому +521

    A great addition to World of Seaplanes!

    • @doge3908
      @doge3908 2 роки тому +11

      More like world of balans 😂

    • @MARSRigel1
      @MARSRigel1 2 роки тому +7

      More like World of Naval Aviation, no like seriously, they really should change that name.

    • @icetea1455
      @icetea1455 2 роки тому +6

      Wargaming is destroying the game soon jets will spell the end of ships

    • @lolroflroflcakes
      @lolroflroflcakes 2 роки тому +1

      Technically a carrier does not launch seaplanes, they launch and retrieve ordinary aircraft. Seaplanes are aircraft that take off from and land on the water, World of Seaplanes would see you swarmed by Catalina Flying Boats and kingfishers

    • @doge3908
      @doge3908 2 роки тому

      @@MARSRigel1 they did give up on doing ww2 and Ww1 stuf

  • @WeekendWarrior92
    @WeekendWarrior92 2 роки тому +311

    Coming Soon!! ™
    Tier XI SuperSubs: Now with Nuclear Missiles! Works like the bomber squadron cosumable but with unlimited range so that you can annihilate the entire enemy spawn without even using your brain.

    • @aokaze-minotaur
      @aokaze-minotaur 2 роки тому +26

      Don't give them ideas .

    • @cemborembo
      @cemborembo 2 роки тому +10

      trust me, they're gonna do it. it's gonna be the super gimmick every few minutes or so, and you will only be able to fly in one direction with very limited steering.
      it's gonna be balanced cause newbs won't hit them at first but veterans are gonna nail every destroyer for 30k.

    • @urietony
      @urietony 2 роки тому +3

      WG DEV: write it down. WRITE IT DOWN!!!

    • @undhund7588
      @undhund7588 2 роки тому

      Take my money! xD

    • @Brigadier9
      @Brigadier9 2 роки тому

      Also Glorious Rossiskaya Submarine with VA-111 Shkval super-cavitating rocket torpedos.

  • @oskillaFTJ
    @oskillaFTJ 2 роки тому +191

    Remember when supership were about "what if nations kept building artillery focus ships"

    • @memyshelfandeye318
      @memyshelfandeye318 2 роки тому +29

      .. that was ... yesterday, wasn't it?

    • @yourfavoritelawnguy2722
      @yourfavoritelawnguy2722 2 роки тому +20

      @@memyshelfandeye318 they noticed less CV's than usual in matches, so they knew this must be the answer. Spreadsheet never lies comrade

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 2 роки тому +6

      Pepperidge Farms remembers.

    • @Texas240
      @Texas240 2 роки тому +3

      "if nations kept building artillery focused ships, they would've realized that CV are more dominating on the high seas" There, that's the entire statement that must have just not been translated properly.

  • @filiphavlicek6804
    @filiphavlicek6804 2 роки тому +692

    WG in 2021: "We are adding superbattleships to explore artilery focused designs that could have been built in a world where carriers didnt dominate naval warfare"
    WG in 2022: *Adds supercarriers*

    • @greatmatt301
      @greatmatt301 2 роки тому +24

      Yeah that's my thought LOL

    • @Pepega_Ch
      @Pepega_Ch 2 роки тому +28

      Congrats, wg! They've outplayed themselves!

    • @davidward2651
      @davidward2651 2 роки тому +24

      I asked WG about that on today's stream and Conway's response was (paraphrased) "Yes, but that was when we were just introducing super-battleships. Carriers are part of the game, and we've rolled out other types of superships now, so it wouldn't be complete without them"

    • @Nejevu
      @Nejevu 2 роки тому +31

      Next,super submarine with nuclear missile

    • @Nejevu
      @Nejevu 2 роки тому

      Lol

  • @Sotha42
    @Sotha42 2 роки тому +376

    I like how they managed to go with a US paper carrier. Midway refit would be a better choice - more en par with HMS Eagle.

    • @kurfurst6465
      @kurfurst6465 2 роки тому +54

      Or even Essex, she was already a t9 back before the CV rework and irl had the same Banshee aircrafts

    • @kagakai7729
      @kagakai7729 2 роки тому +24

      Superships are typically extreme late-stage ship designs that were rarely feasibly implementable and were often outlandish in their proposed capabilities. HMS Eagle is more the exception than the rule, while USS United States was absolutely the H-46 of carriers, with her bombers planned to carry literal nukes at one point in time.

    • @skdKitsune
      @skdKitsune 2 роки тому +35

      @@kagakai7729 Yet the germans get a 1937 design (not even the real one) as their "supership" luluz

    • @mr_derpo9729
      @mr_derpo9729 2 роки тому +26

      just put in the Forrestal its literally a called super carrier, existed, and was commissioned in 1955 if wg still cares about fitting into the proper "time period"

    • @Sotha42
      @Sotha42 2 роки тому +3

      @@kagakai7729 Is the point of super ships to be unreasonable? Then yes, they should go for United States and replace eagle by Habakuk. If the point of superships is be the next step in evolution, then why follow a dead branch instead of going for an actual CV? If refit midway is too small a step, then go for Forrestal.

  • @CSSBTGaming
    @CSSBTGaming 2 роки тому +273

    Well if they are putting the USS United States in then they could've totally put the Forrestal and Kitty Hawk classes in as well, maybe even the Enterprise. The Long Beach (CGN-9) could even pass for a super cruiser as well. If they keep it up, they might as well give the Soviet ships Styx missiles.
    I don't get it. If Wargaming wanna do a cold war and/or modern naval warfare title, it would've been better for them to do it as more of a standalone title or expansion. It's not smart for them to casually powercreep the preexisting WOWS content to no end and gimp the current playerbase with more modern superweapons while they toy with their ideas. :(

    • @seelenwaechter
      @seelenwaechter 2 роки тому +24

      Next year Zumwalt class DDs and U 212A class subs...

    • @Swarm509
      @Swarm509 2 роки тому +16

      They have been doing this with World of Tanks forever, so it makes sense for them to push it here. Plus with what the other Free to Play games that are similar to this are doing.
      I think this will just push more players away from high tier content, I know I already am playing way more tier 5 to 7 ships, they just feel better.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 роки тому +10

      If they've got to add more powerful ships, they could always add new tiers. Of course, that would mean people might expect the new tier to be balanced, and we can see what they think of _that_ concept...

    • @micklane7306
      @micklane7306 2 роки тому +8

      War thunder proves this sentiment wrong. Though I do agree that in both cases the tech trees should be split between WW2 and cold war era vehicles.

    • @dabombinablemi6188
      @dabombinablemi6188 2 роки тому +8

      Considering WOT console has cold war and WW1/2 tanks seperated - its not like Wargaming hasn't done it before.

  • @hughejass9461
    @hughejass9461 2 роки тому +77

    Now now, I'm sure WG will thoroughly test these new super carriers in ranked and random battles ruining everyone's experiences yet again.

  • @huathai8204
    @huathai8204 2 роки тому +87

    Next step, nuclear tipped guided missiles...

    • @TheStefanskoglund1
      @TheStefanskoglund1 2 роки тому +9

      Baltimore rebuild - equipped with Talos missiles with W30 warhead (3 kton.)

    • @JohnSmith-ux3tt
      @JohnSmith-ux3tt 2 роки тому

      Beat me to it :-)

    • @Zero01k
      @Zero01k 2 роки тому +5

      Nuclear shells for Iowa class BBs

  • @paccin339
    @paccin339 2 роки тому +72

    Wg: totally ignores world of warplanes for like, 5 years
    Wows in the meantime: w H a t... P l a n e s?

    • @fogbattleshipyamato9173
      @fogbattleshipyamato9173 2 роки тому

      They really lost the ww2 charm of the ships that I knew when I joined the game

  • @DeteCT0R
    @DeteCT0R 2 роки тому +90

    Im just curious what happen if everyone start saying we want more CV's. Maybe WG removes? Reverse logic.

    • @locutusofscifi1033
      @locutusofscifi1033 2 роки тому +9

      No, because that would assume that they even listen at all.

    • @Texas240
      @Texas240 2 роки тому +2

      You simply cannot reverse #RussianLogic

  • @failomas1443
    @failomas1443 2 роки тому +90

    can't wait for super-subs with cruise missile to strike anything in the map from spawn and with that the game is complete.

    • @Draculas-knight
      @Draculas-knight 2 роки тому +4

      Add tactical nukes and then they will transition to a metro 2033 game

    • @Hevlikn
      @Hevlikn 2 роки тому +4

      i think guided missile cruisers would be a great addition to the game; 1) drive into border; 2) destroy CV; 3) win

    • @Martin120577
      @Martin120577 2 роки тому

      They are probable already way ahead, already developing it.

    • @coyote4961
      @coyote4961 2 роки тому +2

      The future of WoWs... 5 minute matches where each team kills eachother with jets, supersonic rockets, cruise missiles, use of satellite radar to spot whole map, get 5 kills then get a nuke, etc...

    • @Texas240
      @Texas240 2 роки тому

      Honestly, that sounds like a Gaijin game...

  • @Herastheblackwolf
    @Herastheblackwolf 2 роки тому +151

    Not fixing the bad chat system, not fixing the bugs with the dispersion nor rendering, not fixing this bullshitty mm (nor including +/-1), not fixing harbour performance, no new map, no manual AA to counter with skill against CVs (-skill), no real counter against fire. But hell yeah, we wanted super Ships including Jets.

    • @johnvdk9936
      @johnvdk9936 2 роки тому +6

      You forget the broken API that is withholding us from decent stats in 3rd party websites like WoWs numbers...

    • @chrisaustin9949
      @chrisaustin9949 2 роки тому +1

      So why do people keep playing games they hate? You see this in every game. Same thing in World of Warcraft, a small loud subset of players who can't tell us enough how much they hate the game they are playing. It's a free world, go play something else?

    • @zane660
      @zane660 2 роки тому +18

      @@chrisaustin9949 because wows has no competition. For example if a shooter is trash than you just play another one, but wows is literally its own thing. And thats why wg can make it as bad as they want, since they know people who want to play a game about naval warfare have no alternative.

    • @grimmshredsanguinus2915
      @grimmshredsanguinus2915 2 роки тому

      Thats their apologise more scamming

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 2 роки тому +1

      Plus there are still tons of REAL ships that they could still add, like a British battlecruiser line.

  • @rallius8629
    @rallius8629 2 роки тому +96

    Create the problem ----> super carriers with jets, Sell the solution -----> AA cruisers with missiles.

    • @evanlease803
      @evanlease803 2 роки тому +1

      Stonks

    • @Tohka47
      @Tohka47 2 роки тому +8

      Then give the jets flare and jammer. Solve the problems by give the ships freaking S400 or patriot defend system....

    • @Volunteer-per-order_OSullivan
      @Volunteer-per-order_OSullivan 2 роки тому

      Since that'd probably mean HMS Duke of Edinburgh, I'm not even mad.

    • @Blackreaper95
      @Blackreaper95 2 роки тому +1

      @@Tohka47 Sm3 and CWIS

    • @claverse5478
      @claverse5478 2 роки тому

      CIWS: hello there

  • @runner74u
    @runner74u 2 роки тому +18

    1:30 "Japanese aircraft carrier United States"
    I would like to see WG's version of THAT aircaft carrier, sure.

  • @Opaheke1
    @Opaheke1 2 роки тому +22

    Remember back in the RTS days WG pulled the jets from the Midway because they were OP. Got me wishing for the RTS days. Next up, guded missiles.

  • @Cailus3542
    @Cailus3542 2 роки тому +79

    My initial response in the clan Discord was "Supership carriers. Oh my God." This was followed shortly thereafter by "FUCKING JET AIRCRAFT!?".
    That should say it all, I expect.

    • @WintersFinalstand
      @WintersFinalstand 2 роки тому +5

      Jets were already on the way to wows. Tbh, the future it seems is tiers 11 and on. Which means AA becomes missile based.

    • @cjmpaja
      @cjmpaja 2 роки тому +5

      Also the Midway used to have jets a long time ago...

  • @John-cg5sk
    @John-cg5sk 2 роки тому +18

    Still amuses me to think that someone at WG after everything thinks:
    "Yeah, this is a good idea."

    • @Lucpol1986
      @Lucpol1986 2 роки тому

      As long as coin keeps rolling in, 'anything' can be added it seems...

  • @mathew0172
    @mathew0172 2 роки тому +37

    How to kill your own game DIY feat. WG

    • @MattH88S
      @MattH88S 2 роки тому +4

      The Anti-CV crowd has said forever that CVs would kill the game, and it's never happened. I doubt SuperCVs will either.

    • @zane660
      @zane660 2 роки тому +4

      @@MattH88S your exactly the type of player wg needs

    • @marmalade6681
      @marmalade6681 2 роки тому +1

      @@MattH88S to a point it has.. 90% of the people i played with 2-3 years ago have left and said they wont be coming back. the common denominator is the imbalance of CV's. A lot of new people are playing now, but the quality of the games at higher tiers are a lot worse. Its too easy now to buy your way and play T10 battles with no experience in how to play the game. So.. CV's did drive away, IMO, a lot of older and more capable players but have been replaced by a different group of people that dont have the experience. BUT.. thats just my opinion as i said.
      A good CV player can very much target and ship and remove it from the game. You cant mitigate that with positioning like you can with other ships and you cant shoot back. NOW.. it hasnt 'killed' the game, but the game has suffered just the same.

    • @MattH88S
      @MattH88S 2 роки тому

      @@marmalade6681 and most of the people I've played with are still around, these anecdotes are pointless. Wargaming has their data they are acting on, and as a company that desires to make money, I'm quite certain that increasing their player pool and improving player retention are things they base decisions on. If the community was actually hemorrhaging players when new CVs were announced, I'm 100% certain Wargaming would be aware of this and act accordingly to save their bottom line. Pride only means so much when bean counters get involved.
      If they continue to introduce carriers, it means their data is indicating players either have no issue with them or enjoy them. It's likely a vocal minority of players that hate CVs when you account for the 95% of the playerbase that just plays the game and doesn't comment on the forums or youtube.
      CVs have literally the lowest dpm in the game. If you get caught out and "removed", then you apparently positioned poorly and have little understanding about mitigating CV damage with movement. A Schlieffen will remove an isolated individual from the game much faster than any CV can or will, and there is no dodging her secondaries nor point-blank torps.

    • @marmalade6681
      @marmalade6681 2 роки тому

      @@MattH88S Maybe you should re-read what i actually wrote. and.. Have a nice day

  • @mavvh1054
    @mavvh1054 2 роки тому +69

    Note: the USS United States was being developed at the end of the war but most designs I've seen did not look like that.

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah, this ship looks more like a Forrestal class if anything.

    • @treystroeder588
      @treystroeder588 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly my thought on the matter. No matter how it's cut, the playerbase certainly wont like it, I think.

    • @Dingdong0810
      @Dingdong0810 2 роки тому +2

      its because USS United States was going to be a platform for bombers carrying tactical nukes and had almost zero capability for concentional warfare. if you look at wargaming's design, its actually a mix of 1947, 1948 design of USS United States with modifications for none-nuclear missions like replacing retractable bridge with an actual bridge. and adding early warning radar.
      the wargaming version of uss united states is 1947 design hull with funnels and side catapult for fighters from 1948 design and added an island for bridge and radar.

    • @andrewsmith6776
      @andrewsmith6776 2 роки тому +1

      Honestly to me it kinda looks like the wikipedia article's picture for it but just with a superstructure slapped on top... They probably guessed that a flat top carrier with an armored deck was too bullshit, even for them?

    • @anderskorsback4104
      @anderskorsback4104 2 роки тому +2

      USS United States? Would that literally be "United States Ship United States" ?

  • @hockerrocker8576
    @hockerrocker8576 2 роки тому +38

    WG: Player, do you want a supership CV!
    Player: NOOO!!!
    WG: Nice, you get two...
    greed eats the brain.

  • @monarch3335
    @monarch3335 2 роки тому +31

    Hey at least we haven't seen an ultra-fantasy variant of the Tone class where they have Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles instead of aircraft bolted to the stern. Wait, what's that I'm hearing? Tone-class guided missile cruiser? Tier whatnow?

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому +7

      *ARPEGGIO of Blue Steel Noises*

    • @fanis1414
      @fanis1414 2 роки тому +4

      It's probably just a matter of time until they add something like Shinano but with ohka carrying planes.

    • @giroromek8423
      @giroromek8423 2 роки тому

      Just wait for French DDs armed with MM-39 Exocet.

    • @silverhost9782
      @silverhost9782 2 роки тому +1

      Sounds like something you'd see in Azur Lane tbh

  • @PL-kt2hi
    @PL-kt2hi 2 роки тому +14

    Can we get an T 11 version of the war canoe next? You know: 2km detectability, 20 torpedoes, 15 guns with base 100mm of HE armor penetration? And reload for both weapons systems at 2s and 30s? FFS WG...

  • @deltawarshipdelta8565
    @deltawarshipdelta8565 2 роки тому +47

    This was totally predictable on WG’s side adding jets to a WW2 game. Imagine this ship with tier 8 ships, so you have jets facing a Bismarck or something similar ?

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому +16

      *Terrified Bismarck Noises*

    • @TheIcyWizard705
      @TheIcyWizard705 2 роки тому +4

      I mean if we're being honest jets were already in the game long ago, TX CV's used to get one of the aircraft types as jets

    • @timpeschke5054
      @timpeschke5054 2 роки тому +7

      This has battlefield 2042 vibes, ww2 soldiers vs modern navy seals

    • @michaelmcnally2331
      @michaelmcnally2331 2 роки тому +1

      These cvs are super tier so surely tier 9/10 and super ships only will see these

    • @deltawarshipdelta8565
      @deltawarshipdelta8565 2 роки тому +1

      @@michaelmcnally2331weren’t they adding them in random battles ? If so knowing WG there is a high chance that they will make tier 8 face super ships xD

  • @ME262MKI
    @ME262MKI 2 роки тому +40

    That means we are going to get carrier based ME-262s!

    • @Qwerty-jl2yw
      @Qwerty-jl2yw 2 роки тому +8

      Shut up wehrb, these planes were all built to be launched off carriers, the me262 certainly was not

    • @irunmun9034
      @irunmun9034 2 роки тому +15

      @@Qwerty-jl2yw the me262 can fly, you cannot

    • @alamoemperor3845
      @alamoemperor3845 2 роки тому +3

      @@Qwerty-jl2yw The f9f did not have an afterburner like the one in that preview either .-.

  • @FlyngSnoopy
    @FlyngSnoopy 2 роки тому +12

    Jet aircraft?!? Really? What's next - antiship cruise missiles?

    • @ArmageddonEvil
      @ArmageddonEvil 2 роки тому +4

      I said basically the same thing. lol

    • @DeteCT0R
      @DeteCT0R 2 роки тому +1

      The jets not really a new things in wows. Midway was jets before they replaced the current one.

    • @ArmageddonEvil
      @ArmageddonEvil 2 роки тому

      @@DeteCT0R Basically reintroducing the 'Pre-Altered Midway.' XD

  • @cncmne7404
    @cncmne7404 2 роки тому +25

    Man i never thought i would say this but i pray to i dunno what , that the barriers of reality break down and that Wargaming ends up in Commoragh (40k fans will know).

    • @D4rkn3ss2000
      @D4rkn3ss2000 2 роки тому +3

      Everyone at WG needs AND DESERVES a long visit to the dungeons of Lord Vect

    • @yhormthemidget
      @yhormthemidget 2 роки тому +2

      @@D4rkn3ss2000 lets be real, Vect is one of 40k's biggest asshole but I wouldn't punish him that much. After interacting with WG for a few minutes he would rather choose the sweet embrace of Slaanesh.

    • @fanis1414
      @fanis1414 2 роки тому +1

      They should change their name to warpgaming

    • @Feffdc
      @Feffdc 2 роки тому

      I see you are a man of culture...

  • @vasiliyt8600
    @vasiliyt8600 2 роки тому +14

    I am waiting for the class that will counter all these new Super CVs.... The Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser. :D

  • @TheSaberra
    @TheSaberra 2 роки тому +17

    So, Japanese in their infinite wisdom did, according to WG, a war refit of Atago that made the ship worse, hence it's tier lower. And then WG slapped a gimmick to make sure it's strong enough for this tier.

    • @SuperStevieye
      @SuperStevieye 2 роки тому +3

      The refit of Maya is actually accurate

    • @HVSvideos
      @HVSvideos 2 роки тому +2

      Maya's design is actually the one historically accurate thing in this entire devblog lol. By herself she would probably be too similar to Myoko but they went completely overboard with the gimmicks.

    • @TheRealJohnux
      @TheRealJohnux 2 роки тому

      Given they needed more AA if it even did anything, it wasn't a super bad Idea.

  • @lalxl
    @lalxl 2 роки тому +7

    At this rate next year we'll have a line of IJN Super submarine aircraft carriers....

  • @zx-3948
    @zx-3948 2 роки тому +5

    Wg: "Let's add super-ships! They can be tier 11!"
    Also WG: "Let's now add super-carriers! They will be tier 20!"
    Everyone else: "Excuse me what the fuck"

  • @Pyromaniac2k9
    @Pyromaniac2k9 2 роки тому +7

    Playerbase: "CVs are way too OP now, WG fix this shit!"
    WG: adding Kitakami with torp and AA consumable
    Also WG: "There has been a miscommunication..."

  • @ILGlocker
    @ILGlocker 2 роки тому +5

    I bet within 2 years there will be helicopters. So many ships already have the H landing pad.

  • @taterino2722
    @taterino2722 2 роки тому +62

    At this point, modern warships sound like a better idea than these new super ships. I mean, the Modern Warships mobile game is basically WOWs with 21st century navies. Oh well, at least wg's art department gets to shine again.

    • @ScallywagBeowulf
      @ScallywagBeowulf 2 роки тому +14

      The WG art department is the only good thing remaining in this game.
      I had a thought the other day to maybe come back to WoWS and try the new German BBs, because I loved secondary builds, but I decided not to deal with that chaos.

    • @Tswa567
      @Tswa567 2 роки тому +3

      At this point I want the art department to do bad so there’s nothing good to praise them on

    • @g6g401
      @g6g401 2 роки тому +1

      Art dept. has to perform because they're the only ones selling the game.

    • @ulfenburg7539
      @ulfenburg7539 2 роки тому

      yeah well that modern war ships game is aboslute trash. I tried it since I wanted the kirov and it was okay but then carries.... you cant shot the planes down. That literally doesn't happen and they strike you for 1/5 of you health and can strike you 2-3 times before they fly over you. They can very very quickly kill and this is like in a matter of like 20 seconds...

  • @adrianwalkowiak1190
    @adrianwalkowiak1190 2 роки тому +16

    maybe Wg will make special kind of battles just for CV's , filled with bots so CV players can fullfill their sadistic dreams on bots, not ruining game for other players. (Ofc u can join this battle with surface ship if u want, but i can bet u 97% of player base if given choice will avoid any game involving any kind of CV)

    • @lmaogottem5984
      @lmaogottem5984 2 роки тому +1

      tbh the cv players probably wont even notice theyre in a bot match, the gameplay is so braindead it doesnt matter anyways

  • @arlingo
    @arlingo 2 роки тому +11

    Maya: atago with one less turret, reload booster, and F3 torps..

  • @zlkimagenX
    @zlkimagenX 2 роки тому +24

    Annnnnd I'm done, this is my limit. Tier 11 cv's when we have no counterplay to tier 10?
    I think thats my last straw

    • @InsolentHalo
      @InsolentHalo 2 роки тому +2

      thats how you stop them, stop playing and they will actually finally listen when their income drops.

    • @zlkimagenX
      @zlkimagenX 2 роки тому +1

      @@InsolentHalo took me long enough to realise. The only way to win is to not play.

    • @tamaskristofcsak145
      @tamaskristofcsak145 2 роки тому +1

      I considered leaving this game for nearly a year, but this looks like the final sh*t! I quit, before they release these nightmares. Rip good old WoWs, time to burn my free time with something else.

    • @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835
      @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835 2 роки тому

      I used to play World of Tanks from 2015 to the end of 2018. I knew at that time that my favourite game was being ruined by WG since around start of 2017 but I still liked it so I kept playing because it was only game I could play like a unicum player and I enjoyed being better than 90% of playerbase.
      Then I migrated to:
      World of Warships around time of CV revork in 2019. Learned from my mistakes in WoT so instead of spending around 100-150 euro on game in total I only spent 3 euro on WOWS in total. Only grinded ships up to tier 8 and again I was skilled and aggressive player who enjoyed bullying WoWS infamously dumb player base in randoms.
      Played wows until around mid-2020 when I realized WOWS have reached even worse state than WoT.
      Never playing games made by WG ever again.

  • @nonamenameless5495
    @nonamenameless5495 2 роки тому +11

    Black Friday and Xmas are over and all the fools went crazy spending money whilst ignoring the past development of the game and WG s attitude...so what do you expect, ofc they ll continue on their path... it only took em 2 months of sweet talking and ppl awarded them with money despite of all the BS of the past 2 years so ofc it s gonna continue the way it did before sweet talking became necessary to cash in on the holidays.
    P.S.: ...oh and now we know why they consider changing plane spotting :) yay

  • @CallmeRoth
    @CallmeRoth 2 роки тому +10

    IJN ships having low range... couldn't be more opposite to the real ships.

  • @Abrams6578
    @Abrams6578 2 роки тому +5

    Tbf, all the consumables except for MBR are all normal ones for the Takao class ships to have, so not too surprising it gets the same as her sisters.

    • @dzello
      @dzello 2 роки тому

      Except Takao is tier 8 whereas this is tier 7. So that means it gets those consumables... At a lower tier. Those consumables at tier 7 is VERY surprising.

  • @lucidnonsense942
    @lucidnonsense942 2 роки тому +2

    Nuclear submarines when?
    At 5 minutes you dive and tactical nuke the entire map.

  • @Con9359
    @Con9359 2 роки тому +7

    Looks like wg is trying to piss of the remaining players aswell.

  • @potatowhisperer333
    @potatowhisperer333 2 роки тому +9

    I can’t wait for the matches with both normal and super CVs…

  • @comradevlad7459
    @comradevlad7459 2 роки тому +3

    Wasn’t the whole original point of the “superships” that they’re were “what ifs” if cvs never existed? Well that went out the window FAST

  • @lorischarrex2770
    @lorischarrex2770 2 роки тому +18

    Wasn't the point of superships to be fictional ships in a world where CVs wouldn't have been the focus in the end of WW2. Wasn't it the point to have ships with bigger guns or new stronger weapons rather than planes. I am confused...

    • @lorisschuchardt5682
      @lorisschuchardt5682 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, you are the problem not WG, it's not like they don't care anymore

    • @joeboe1194
      @joeboe1194 2 роки тому +3

      what you're saying makes sense. therefore, you are the problem

    • @lorischarrex2770
      @lorischarrex2770 2 роки тому

      @@lorisschuchardt5682 Well nice to see that people who are doubtful about Wargaming decisions and who are hoping for the game to continue to be viable, are the Problem.
      I will help you understand my concerns better. On the fifth of October 2021 there was a devblog released at 12.00 who state the following: " It represented our view of how military shipbuilding could have evolved if the decision had been made to continue building powerful artillery ships." So once again I ask what were the superships introduced as?
      Evolution of artillery ships!!!
      It is too early to know what kind of impact super CVs will have but what they have shown us is not a great idea and is defeating the concept of superships

    • @fogbattleshipyamato9173
      @fogbattleshipyamato9173 2 роки тому

      Who knows what they actually meant back then

  • @anonymousstout4759
    @anonymousstout4759 2 роки тому +3

    Ah yes I remember watching this stuff on history channel about operation Ten-Go where Yamtoo actually got attacked by 52 Jets with surface to ground missiles, shit is nuts. Thanks to wg for putting the effort into small details

  • @metallord999
    @metallord999 2 роки тому +2

    Next up the soviet supercarrier which is not even a CV its just the Kirov-class battlecruiser

  • @anubhavmathur9823
    @anubhavmathur9823 2 роки тому +7

    They should remove the penalty for leaving games early because i can see at least half the team just quitting

    • @zane660
      @zane660 2 роки тому +1

      Getting in a super cv game= autopilot straight in and watch some yt until ur dead

  • @dzello
    @dzello 2 роки тому +5

    Well... Maya will be fun... :D

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому

      Yes, the good news in this piece.

    • @dzello
      @dzello 2 роки тому

      @@Dcarp7 Looks kinda strong because its extremely loaded with consumables and it totally makes up for the lost guns, Ill most likely get it.

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому

      @@dzello Cool.

    • @dzello
      @dzello 2 роки тому +1

      @@Dcarp7 If you have Yamamoto, you'll also likely enjoy it even more (extra consumable if you get first blood).

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому

      @@dzello yeeeeessss.

  • @droidmotorola3884
    @droidmotorola3884 2 роки тому +5

    Meanwhile no supership is able to shoot down a single plane from a low HP T10 cv

  • @nvsantos7516
    @nvsantos7516 2 роки тому +1

    Players: AA is a garbage
    WG: i heard u say more CV?

  • @AnIllinoisan
    @AnIllinoisan 2 роки тому +3

    The A2J Savage was designed to drop nuclear bombs (or 12,000 lbs of conventional bombs).. Just think about that: we will have a nuclear bomber blowing the crap out of gunboats.
    Also, it was never equipped with torpedos, so nice job there Wargaming.

  • @linusdroptips660
    @linusdroptips660 2 роки тому +1

    WG in 2023: we decided to add the Ticonderoga class missile cruiser

  • @tbalmer1207
    @tbalmer1207 2 роки тому +8

    when are we getting AA missiles on HMS tiger then as she was the first ship fitted with them...

  • @BigD321
    @BigD321 2 роки тому +5

    I was excited for hornet as its one of my favorite historical ships, but that quickly died with the realization that they’re adding supercarriers, I mean the United States literally looks like a modern supercarrier.
    Weegee strikes again

    • @_badger_9902
      @_badger_9902 2 роки тому

      With a "tactical squadron"

    • @raptor4916
      @raptor4916 2 роки тому

      It lacks the angled deck so it looks like the cursed early super carriers

    • @avatarwarmech
      @avatarwarmech 2 роки тому

      @@_badger_9902 the tactical squads of the only ones that have the Jets and they work on the same basis like the tone or Kearsarge where you will not be able to launch them right away they're on a timer

    • @natsumeyashi3383
      @natsumeyashi3383 2 роки тому

      Nimitz class WWII version

  • @MajesticDemonLord
    @MajesticDemonLord 2 роки тому +3

    I remember when WG removed Jet Aircraft from carriers because they were insanely OP...

  • @timmy3822
    @timmy3822 2 роки тому +1

    Welp, I remember the good old days playing this in CBT and in the first year or so post launch. It was my favourite game, so sad to see what it has become due to Wargamblings greed and incompetence. I remember people complaining about the speed of Saipan planes when it came out, and how fast you could make repeated strikes, these jet aircraft are on an entirely different level.
    Next they'll be throwing in Tomahawk cruise missiles from guided missile ships.

  • @samulivainionpaa9338
    @samulivainionpaa9338 2 роки тому +6

    Soon german cv's will send out FW-200 Condors loaded with Fritz-X to do 20k citadel damage with pinpoint accuracy

    • @skdKitsune
      @skdKitsune 2 роки тому +7

      Instantly deletes every single italian BB on the map as special gimmick

    • @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835
      @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835 2 роки тому

      If this will be German CV, then imagine what would Soviet superCV be like MonkaW

    • @aulderx1437
      @aulderx1437 2 роки тому +1

      @@tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835 Just Admiral Kuznetsov

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV 2 роки тому

      I'm surprised the British super CV isn't Habbakuk, launching Avro Lancaster bombers armed with Tallboys.

  • @Routerproblem
    @Routerproblem 2 роки тому +3

    "Japanese Aircraft carrier United States" 1:28

  • @lordbrain8867
    @lordbrain8867 2 роки тому +7

    So now we have Yorktown, Enterprise, and Hornet all in the game. I love the history of the ships, but they're literally all from the same class. What's the justification behind this besides money?

    • @bigmanooscar7904
      @bigmanooscar7904 2 роки тому +1

      well you cant get enterprise anymore unless you put in thousands of dollars so now you can put get yorktown or hornet

    • @SakuraShade
      @SakuraShade 2 роки тому

      At least with Hornet, it has the option to use the B-25B Mitchell bombers, given that was the ship the Doolittle Raid took off from, and I would hope that's the plan (as much as army level bombers will be aids to deal with) but still, aside from the history we don't need more CVs in the game.

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому

      So far, none.

    • @memyshelfandeye318
      @memyshelfandeye318 2 роки тому +1

      ... more money!!!

    • @JohnSmith-ux3tt
      @JohnSmith-ux3tt 2 роки тому

      WG: "Huh. What other reason is there?"

  • @link4chunk522
    @link4chunk522 2 роки тому +4

    Vodka just tastes too good

  • @arivael
    @arivael 2 роки тому +3

    Going to be lovely to see what happens when someone puts Cunningham on Eagle and procs the speed boost he gives.

  • @archieforber7201
    @archieforber7201 2 роки тому +2

    So HMS Eagle, a carrier so modern it was still in service in one of the worlds foremost navies in the 1970s, is going to be fighting ships built in the 1930s, say Yamato to pick a name out of the hat. The Eagle will have most of its stations manned by people born AFTER the end of ww2. It’s not even the same era I mean wtf

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому

      Is this the "Final Countdown" crap again? Sounds like something that Azur Lane would pull.

    • @yhormthemidget
      @yhormthemidget 2 роки тому

      @@Dcarp7 at least AL would put tits on them. Unlike WG, they know what their playerbase needs

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому

      @@yhormthemidget Eh, yeah.

  • @HeyNobody_OG
    @HeyNobody_OG 2 роки тому +6

    2022 The Year of Modernisation of game apparently what else coming?
    First Yets Second Cruise Missiles and CIWS? Third Nuclear Submarines that launch 180 knot torps at you oh boi this year is gonna be fun 🤣

    • @samulivainionpaa9338
      @samulivainionpaa9338 2 роки тому +2

      Imagine rushing a russian submarine with a dd and they fire a Skhval supercavitating torpedo trough your bow, WG things

    • @HeyNobody_OG
      @HeyNobody_OG 2 роки тому

      @@samulivainionpaa9338 You wont even get to rush it it will ShipWreck Missile You before you even start the engines up 🤣

    • @samulivainionpaa9338
      @samulivainionpaa9338 2 роки тому

      @@HeyNobody_OG Imagine playing a BB and it launches a 65-76 at you, one hour of wake-homing fun times with 3 times the explosive mass of Japanese Type 93, all of which detonates below the hull and thus would probably be citadel damage. Coming soon at tier 12

  • @mattmac4087
    @mattmac4087 2 роки тому

    "Hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of Miscommunication!"

  • @winter_soldier_ymb8630
    @winter_soldier_ymb8630 2 роки тому +6

    MAKE CVs GREAT AGAIN HYPE !

  • @alperenozgur4491
    @alperenozgur4491 2 роки тому +2

    I am pretty sure wg thanos snapped half of the playerbase with this devblog

  • @jimmymullen3016
    @jimmymullen3016 2 роки тому +3

    Could they at least update the effect of radar to extend range and effectiveness of aa? Actually give cv something to sweat about if it flies over an active bubble and take a little of the pressure off dds as cruisers have to burn through their radars.

  • @173muppet
    @173muppet 2 роки тому +1

    It's like a bad April fools joke.... in January

  • @cipher3172
    @cipher3172 2 роки тому +7

    Well it sounds like I absolutely want Maya, mostly cause I really like Takao-class CAs anyways, but those stats sound nice. I do realize they say ships are being tested and stats may change. And I wish they'd fix CV gameplay first and actually give us a defence against planes cause even with the best AA it's still not enough.

  • @missk1697
    @missk1697 2 роки тому +1

    Now we just wait for supersubmarine with nuclear ICBMs to finally irradiate this game into extinction.

  • @rhysofsneezingdragon1758
    @rhysofsneezingdragon1758 2 роки тому +9

    I'm just happy they're taking about Hornet.

  • @DavidMartin-ym2te
    @DavidMartin-ym2te 2 роки тому

    CVA58 - United States - was originally a through deck flush decker with no Island. Norman Friedman's book US Aircraft Carriers (P243 if you have that book) shows an impression from October 1948 that looks quite a lot like the WoWs model with Banshees and Neptunes on deck. They also made a seakeeping model with Cutlesses on deck.

  • @shadopulse5185
    @shadopulse5185 2 роки тому +3

    I won’t be surprised if Maya’s tier 7 was just a typo that was never fixed. Apart from those stats that are comparably busted to the Myoko, she’s compared more to the Atago than the same tier Myoko. Hell even if they bump her up a tier she’ll still be a strong T8 cruiser, that should really be the move considering how much T8’s earn better than the T7 premiums anyway

    • @TheRealJohnux
      @TheRealJohnux 2 роки тому

      Funfact. Maya is a Takao Class. So she should be Tier 8.

    • @shadopulse5185
      @shadopulse5185 2 роки тому

      TheRealJohnux i know, and tbf we’ve had tons of different tier ships of the same class in the Mutsu and Musashi. It just is weird

    • @TheRealJohnux
      @TheRealJohnux 2 роки тому

      @@shadopulse5185 yeah, but those were actually build different literally.

    • @shadopulse5185
      @shadopulse5185 2 роки тому

      TheRealJohnux i mean, as different as the Maya was to the Takao class. Mutsu and Musashi were just pre-refit versions of their bigger sisters. Maya was a refit version with 8 and not 10 guns among other changes

  • @LunaStarFire
    @LunaStarFire 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly my fave game mode was the halloween ships, each one was broken if you knew how to use it. It was just a really fun mode

  • @sankyu3950
    @sankyu3950 2 роки тому +2

    Tbh I wouldnt be suprise if wargaming decided to add more tier and add cold war ships only because there is a certaint amount of blueprint and ship dated from that era that eventually they will run out of ships without creating there own. Atleast they added the proper IJN Maya

  • @lamwen03
    @lamwen03 2 роки тому

    Foreshadowing is when you hear the theme from Jaws playing

  • @hunter35193
    @hunter35193 2 роки тому +3

    I feel like have a homing missile aa button on some ships that works like depth charges (cd) would balance things a bit a bit better.

  • @pdorn1
    @pdorn1 2 роки тому

    15:33, the sound of Flamu's soul dying.

  • @NFKnaru
    @NFKnaru 2 роки тому +4

    The funny thing is; when they presented the first super battleships the idea behind it was: if aircraft carriers hadn't gained a prominent role in WWII, how would future artillery-based ships have developed?
    Well now we have super aircraft carriers ...
    Now we just need super super battleships to see what kind of ships would have been created if super aircraft carriers didn't exist. ahahahahaha

  • @freetolook3727
    @freetolook3727 2 роки тому

    Wargambling: "We're not out of touch with the player base. The spreadsheets said so."

  • @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835
    @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835 2 роки тому +9

    I used to play World of Tanks from 2015 to the end of 2018. I knew at that time that my favourite game was being ruined by WG since around start of 2017 but I still liked it so I kept playing because it was only game I could play like a unicum player and I enjoyed being better than 90% of playerbase.
    Then I migrated to:
    World of Warships around time of CV revork in 2019. Learned from my mistakes in WoT so instead of spending around 100-150 euro on game in total I only spent 3 euro on WOWS in total. Only grinded ships up to tier 8 and again I was skilled and aggressive player who enjoyed bullying WoWS infamously dumb player base in randoms.
    Played wows until around mid-2020 when I realized WOWS have reached even worse state than WoT.
    Never playing games made by WG ever again.

  • @Mamiya645
    @Mamiya645 2 роки тому

    I'm getting increasingly convinced Gaijin and WG are twins born from the same how-did-this-survive-nine-months-let-alone-conceive-at-all pregnancy.

  • @totallynotpotato9268
    @totallynotpotato9268 2 роки тому +4

    If they introduce Cold War Era ships/tier 11 they should have a separate tech tree and mm

  • @SwedishFarmer94
    @SwedishFarmer94 2 роки тому +2

    Ok WG, put supercarriers and their ridiculously fast planes in the game. But you must also give every BB, cruiser and DD that will face them AA that blows them out of the sky with ease.

  • @guvyygvuhh298
    @guvyygvuhh298 2 роки тому +5

    I wish I could uninstall the game twice bcz now I'd love to hammer that button
    Went thru the sub buffs dev blog before you posted the vid, alt f4ed after seeing the dumbass 75% ASW airstike nerf, booted up the wg launcher and with no hesitaion i uninstalled the game
    13/5 would do that again

  • @whoosah6289
    @whoosah6289 2 роки тому

    This is gonna be so much fun. For people, who abandoned playing this game long time ago, watching it on Twitch and YT. KEKW

  • @rajaichan6084
    @rajaichan6084 2 роки тому +4

    Bruh,i realy hope they made a special map for this ship bcs holy crap its gonna be bullshit

  • @Exar-Kun
    @Exar-Kun 2 роки тому +2

    If this goes on we will see subs with ICBMs soon...

  • @Sky_Guy
    @Sky_Guy 2 роки тому +3

    I quit WoWS long ago but at this rate I might have to stop watching Flamu too, even the secondhand cancer is starting to be too much.

  • @beinggayisonlyafractionofm6144
    @beinggayisonlyafractionofm6144 2 роки тому

    Introducing the brand new ship Pyotr Veliky,
    This battlecruiser unlike it's battleship ancestor carries Anti-ship missiles, ASW rockets, Surface to Air missiles, Dual purpose guns,torpedoes and has an "advanced" aim assist thanks to the onboard computers and radars. It can also launch helicopters that can be used for "Recon" purposes
    We plan to add more ships like this in the future as it helps the gameplay to be more engaging and fun, one such example is the modernized Missouri that was used in Operation Desert Storm and a new "Ground Effect Vehicle" category for the Lun Class Ekranoplan

  • @bestboigabe459
    @bestboigabe459 2 роки тому +4

    I'm fine with more CVs as long as their historical, and that usually means American, so I'm happy, I still want Essex back

    • @Dcarp7
      @Dcarp7 2 роки тому +1

      Since we are getting Yorktown and Hornet, I would love to have Essex and Taiho in my port.

  • @windborne8795
    @windborne8795 2 роки тому +1

    The USS United States was actually laid down but, cancelled. It'll be interesting to see how WG implements this thing though.

    • @adrewadrew5860
      @adrewadrew5860 2 роки тому +1

      Super cariers hmmm...... Nimitz class confirmed?

  • @spinrushrc
    @spinrushrc 2 роки тому

    This was really really funny! And to think everyone was crying about slow subs. When Karma comes around she always makes me laugh.

  • @lmaogottem5984
    @lmaogottem5984 2 роки тому +2

    i think wg looks at people making memes about jet planes being added, and they use that as an excuse to add then. much like how its only new players who played for 5 hrs asking for subs, so they used that as an excuse to add then. at this rate theyre actually going to add ballistic missiles unironically

  • @ethanthomas9743
    @ethanthomas9743 2 роки тому +1

    Remember when they introduced super ships WG literally said we’re doing this because what if naval warfare continued down the line of making massive battleships instead of aircraft carriers? And now here we are

  • @DaylightFan4449
    @DaylightFan4449 2 роки тому +1

    the moment i saw this Devblog i was waiting for the Flamu vid