Military Aviation Expert Handicaps NATO's Air Forces
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Prof Bronk is exactly what the RUSI is supposed to be doing.
I have said from the begining of the war in the Ukraine that instead of looking at the successes of NATOs weapons against Russian tanks we should be looking at our own airforces and considering whether they would have the same issues as the Russians.
We really need to look at our mission capabilities and whilst I appreciate Dr. Bronks opinion that we should be capable of relying on our allies I'm not sure that can be done for many of the countries simply because there is still a real likelihood of some countries going to war alone (e.g. Falklands).
Looking at the RAF - lack of SEAD, Lack of and small number of planned AWACS aircraft come to mind - both of which could be remidied with relatively small investments now but are fundamental to network centric warfare and warfare in the next 20-30 years.
I do certainly think that having a multirole aircraft does limit the pilots abilities to focus on a particular task set.
Multi-role means it can do more things...but not as well as specialized aircraft/pilots could....IMHO
@@jimkeats891 A jack of all trades makes compromises, we need specialty aircraft as well
@@gups4963 I agree! Of course, I'm a HUGE "fan boy" of the A-10! :D
NATO doesn't need to look too hard at Russia because it already knows very well the problems it has. The decline of NATO armed forces has been painfully obvious for decades. The real issue is that leaders are unable to actually agree on what the actual problems are, and they are unable to agree on solutions.
Spent 9 years of my Naval career in aviation. I absolutely love your videos
The 10 year political delay allowed us to buy 88 airframes instead of 66 that were proposed 10 years ago. Plus the entire fleet will be Block 4 aircraft at minimum. The Hornets have been in RCAF service since 1982. The last of the CF-35A fleet is due in 2034, Hornets will fly until that time. USMC is still flying them, just not off the carriers anymore. No more traps but still have some airframe hours left in them. RCAF bought 25 RAAF A/B Hornets-18 flyable the rest in parts/training. Fleet is 94 with 86 flyable. Entire Hornet fleet is getting Hornet Extension Program-1 (HEP-1) comms, sniper pod upgrades, improved digital avionics. 36 of the lowest hour are getting further HEP-2 including APG-79 AESA radar/radomes from SuperBug to work with the AIM-120D we bought in 2017. AIM-9X and AGM-154 JSOW capability are included. Supposed to IOC in 2023.
All upgrades are supposed to support the RCAF/NORAD/NATO mission through 2032.
What's on the walls?
In 1990, as a 19 year old American, I had the pleasure of visiting Sweden, staying in the home of the exchange student, Fred, my family had hosted the year before, with whom I had become close friends.
One member of that family was a fighter pilot in the Swedish air force, stationed at nearby Angelholm. The pilot, Anders, was kind enough to bring Fred and me on the base for a tour, his instructions were simply to not make it obvious I was American, but things were easy going enough that he obviously really wasn't worried.
Your description of the Swedish air force system makes his attitude make more sense to me today, he'd been in the air force about ten years and was fairly senior, and he must have felt that even if my not being a Swede was found out by his commanding officer, it wasn't going to negatively affect his career. (At 19, none of this occurred to me, but when I've thought of that day in later years, I've often wondered how much trouble he was risking and could only conclude, not much).
Anyhow, I recall getting a look at jets getting worked on in the hangar, so cool. Then we went to the runway to talk to someone about setting up a flight in a trainer aircraft. The someone was getting a jet ready to fly and while we were there chatting, they started the engines, which standing next to the wing was the loudest thing I've ever heard. It was painfully loud to the point where I was sure I could feel something in my ears tearing unless I jammed my fingers firmly over my ears. My friend did the same, while Anders wore a headset with a mic that both protected his ears and allowed him to continue talking.
At some point we went into the squadron offices. All over the walls were framed pictures of naked women, obviously clipped from magazines. One specifically I recall was a demonstration of anal sex with a big x over it, warning against the practice due to the risk of HIV transmission. Ah, the things one recalls.
Anders took us up in a prop driven, single engine aircraft with four seats. The seats were like metal lawn chairs with black cloth webbing. We flew all around the Helsingborg area where the family lived. He went over Oresund, which separates Sweden from Denmark, and did some rolls and spins. I recall Anders joking that if he strayed past halfway over the Sund, we'd be in Denmark and he'd have to spend the afternoon doing paperwork to explain why he'd done that. He carefully stayed on the Swedish side. Anders also kept asking how we were doing, were we feeling sick? I'm fortunate in that I don't suffer from motion sickness and I enjoyed the mild acrobatics he was doing. Anyhow, that day was one of the most fun of my life.
Consider the relaxed attitude of the Swedish air force in 1990, at a time when the USSR was in its final internal crisis, a month or so before Saddam invaded Kuwait, and draw your own conclusions.
Bronk is always ready highlight what needs to be done next. He is a great asset for the channel
Thanks Ward its always good to here from Justin
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Good job Mooch and Bronk! A bunch of info in a concise package. 👍
Min 9:50 - Keflavik Iceland. 57th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. Love your contents Carroll. Keep rockin' !
Thank you for taking this on. Go Navy!
Two interesting, clever, experienced guys. Great to listen to this stuff. I have no real reason to listen, but just can‘t help but be interested.
Happy Thanksgiving to both of you. Enjoyed the insight.
Justin is a remarkable resource!
Very interesting and some nice inside info there WC. Bronk gets around, doesn't he? Carry on.
Insightful as always
HELL YEAH! But where is the rest? This cant be just a 10 minute interview!
Excerpt from a longer video yesterday- it's around an hour long so plenty of discussion there!
Thanks mate, have been waiting for months for this, not sure how i missed it!@@davidsmith8997
For all others who are wondering what happend;: It was taken down because of a bad copyright claim, and will be up tomorrow according to the community page.
@@TDCIYB77 Thank you for that update!
Watched this in the airport. Thank you both for keeping me company!!!!
Being cynical is a Canadian pass time, especially when it comes to procurement. Multiple governments both Liberal and Conservative cut military spending for decades. Now we can't live up to our obligations on the international stage. A national embarrassment and a scary prospect for those we ask to put their lives on the line for us.
Played hockey with a bunch of military guys in Winnipeg. Great guys. Great attitudes. What really amazed me is that not one of them, ever, called out the political leadership or complained about the lack of training and equipment. It is clear the Canadian military is very demoralized. Getting out was on people's minds. Canada is a mess.
Trying to draw equivalency between Liberal and Conservative governments on defence is a fools game. Liberals are cancer for the military. They don't understand them, relate to them or like them. But they do LOVE them for photo ops and to commit them to all their pet projects.
Unfortunately, after each Liberal 'decade of darkness', Canada's military basically is so broken it finds itself in an existential crisis, which is where we are now... again.
As a US armchair tactician, Canada only exists as a wasteland where soviet nuclear bombers are shot down to prevent nuclear fallout from impacting our way of life.
@@CharlesLambert137that’s armed forces policy that’s why. I once asked a sailor in the RCN what he thought of how things were. His ONLY comment was they weren’t allowed to give their opinions on such things…bro took his oath seriously
@@CharlesLambert137as it should be. Active duty military shouldn’t. The rest of the population can do that through VOTING and letting their opinion be known.
Cool perspective!
11 minutes in there is an F18 flying the Mach Loop in Wales. First time I have seen a plane turn around and fly back the way it came!
Mooch you working on a vid of the VP-4 overshoot at K-Bay? Guessing a training flight for a new pilot since they aren't slated to deploy for awhile. We used to do training runs back in the day from Barbers Pt to Moffett Field.
Was only a matter of time before a patrol plane left the landing, closing barbers was bad, lot of P3 drivers kept saying saying KBAY is to short
A surprise Bronk video!
Seems an abridged version of the full interview previously published but it's not a UA-cam Short.
Weird.
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Perfect
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Great Vid, Damn this guy is smart and of course so are you.
Reupload ????
What went wrong ???
Since I watch first one all I can say is.
I love You both keep up the good work. 👍🤟❤
Copyright claim
@@stevenschurter4133 copyright for what ? WTF that was interview, how do you copyright a fruking interview???
Always upvote The Bronkman.
Most Central European air forces' job was to provide support for peace keeping or peace enforcement missions, in Asia or Africa, beside the usual Air Policing, Recon XIntel stuff, for the last 30 years. Since February 2022, the mission has completely reversed. Now defence of NATO is the main mission and not some kind of expeditionary support.
How is air space limitation a problem for the Canadian airforce?
Anchor chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
Lately, I’ve been wondering, what if your country’s defense industry develops a game changing air to air missile with a tremendous range, fantastic radar, great computer logic for autonomous targeting, but it costs about as much as 1/5 an enemy fighter, could you afford to use it? If it takes five shots in a BVR fight to down an advanced fighter, are you winning the war? But then I thought, you also need to add in the cost of damage the incoming fighter could do on the ground or other aircraft, so bring on the super missiles.
China actually has done that with its newest a2a missile, over 200 Mile range, hypersonic mach 7, miniature aesa and IR dual seekers. It's on Chinese flankers as we speak. And it's the base version, with more advanced versions already in testing that can go into space and slow down or speed up to turn sharply.
Thankful for abridged Bronk take (smart re-view marketing as well). re your latest video sponsor: I prefer *Aviator Wallet* functionally to Ridge Wallet's offerings. Go well
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Thanks for the support!
No outro theme ward?
Another great video, Mooch! If Dr. Bronk ever had the opportunity to visit with TOPGUN or MAWTS-1, I'd be very interested to hear his perspective on the caliber of training provided by these institutions. I'd also be interested in your perspective on the adequacy of the current flying hour programs. Are US aviators/aircrew getting enough flight time to keep their proficiency where it needs to be?
I just read the Navy and Marine Corps 2023 magazine and it had a great article on both of those programs.
So the biggest obstical for competency within each force is retention driven by incentives (not necessarily monetary) how can this be overcome in the modern world?
Great comparison of Germans vs Swedes wrt motivation / will to fight. Also comparison of flight experience (time) vs specialization (and technology). I pick motivation and experience over tech anytime.
I am conflicted on the statistical and technical value of analysis from Dr Bronk from “sample” flights with the the NATO Air Forces, but I applaud the hands on approach (go to the front and see what’s happening). It may not actually be the front, but only a sideshow.
What happened to the full livestream? I watched it just yesterday, but I don't see it on your channel page anymore.
Breaking original into two episodes because of copyright claim (MiG-31 image) that caused UA-cam to remove original. Second half coming soon!
@@WardCarroll man that sucks. I hope you're able to sort this out well enough. UA-cam really has devolved it's policies recently.
I truly enjoy Dr. Bronk's appearance on your channel Commander. There is no political BS. Just facts and Dr. Bronk's educated opinions. Any time he appears, I listen to the details, such as the lack of motivation of the Luftwaffe. Could the Germans train in Sweden or Norway? Is the issue that the Bundesrat limits training?
The best thing you could do for NATO is somehow build a NATO NTTR. With modern long range SAMs it’s difficult to replicate a realistic threat with the airspace available to any single NATO nation. The problems I see in NATO have nothing to do with the militaries. It’s at the political level.
The US should invite pilots from counties like Germany & those others that have less access to implementing higher levels of training like use of weapons, & other things they need more training on. The US has the ability to offer all aspects of this without government restrictions. This should be available to all our NATO allies.
I cannot see your Patreon link via the link. Do you use something different now?
Is this a reupload? I thought I saw this a few days ago.
Deep intel on the Carl Vinson in busan?
I hope NATO Sr leadership listen to Dr Bronk’s analysis and do whatever they can to address shortcomings.
Counties tend to rob from Peter to pay Paul and Democratic countries tend to be worse because they are doing it for the voters. For instance, four U.S. aircraft carriers have as many operational fighters as the UK, France and Germany combined. About half their money goes toward active troops and pensions. Those countries are also putting in their 2% of their GDP. Instead, the money is going toward social programs. Even with the high taxes and the inability to raise taxes higher due to rioting, those nations have incurred a higher debt to GDP ratio than the U.S.
Well, there is still something called commercial aviation, in Western European airspace. It is not possible to close vast amounts of this air space, without hurting a vital part of the transportation network.
Just have a look at FR24
It is not 1980s where the line of contact was at the Werra Elbe. A new NATO / Russian conflict would take place around the Vistula.
Why the silence on the F-35 crash?
That would be a NOT according to what I’m hearing.
Living in Elliot Lake, Ontario, Canada, I am wondering if there are some contributing Uranium in Ukraine?
I wonder what the quality of training and level of moral is like, overall, in todays Navy squadrons. Thanks aMooch and Dr. Bronk.
Both morals and morale have taken hits throughout NAVAIR.
Optempo is hell especially INDOPACOM
Original video has disappeared. With this cryptic message from UA-cam “This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Alexander Rybalchenko” Russian troll anyone?
We’ll see. Claim removal effort in work.
@@WardCarroll
I wish you the very best. It's ridiculous, copyrighted an interview. UA-cam really has gotten pathetic with it's policies recently.
In Mother Russia, copyright claims YOU! 🫵🏼
And now for this question: what is the best non-US NATO Air Force ?
And what would Dr. Bronk's assessment be of our readiness (allied forces, not just the US) should the Russians or Chinese decide to do more than rattle their sabers?
Exactly.
We would be in big trouble in my opinion
Trying to draw the units out and exhaust their resources
Give me one of those planes and I'd fly the hell out of it!!!
It's crazy how expensive modern fighter jets are, but it's clear that without equally significant investments in flying time those jets just become expensive paper weights. I hope NATO can keep up those investments while also investing in Ukraine. Both are crucial for deterring future wars.
Russia is not going to attack NATO due to the nuclear deterrent. For all intents and purposes those overpriced and overhyped bomb trucks like the F35 are just expensive paperweights.
isn't it hard on a pilot to fly a high performance jet for 20-25 yrs, that seems like it would be pretty hard on the body to pull high Gs for 2 decades or more. I feel for the swedes, I dont know of any american fighter pilots that routinely fly F-16s or F-15s for 20 yrs. maybe a joy ride every now and then.
If anyone can answer my question I'd appreciate it. Do European NATO fighters train against aggressors, or is it only the US doing this?
Only the US has specific Aggressor units. Other NATO allies train with units who also have an aggressor role. Has got to do with sizes.
U.S. trains against/with/utilizing both, and atypically? NATO does too, but the amount,who, and what? Varies country to country/service to service/planned mission set to planned mission set. (Think- if the U.S. does and is in partner or Op4 with other NATO AirForces? They too get that experience! ;) ). The answer is nuanced, there is no blanket response really. Yes apllies, but again, how much of each can even be classified in some instances, depending on (planned) mission set.
Those who could provide in depth details to answer that? Cannot, or will not, amd assuredly are advised to avoid questions like this: as it can upset OpSec, and even put themselves and other pilots at risk.
I hope that helps answer your question, someone may have a better answer I am sure!
i'll just use a general reply to thank the feedback given here. So, concluding: yes, but different to US use case.
We often have pilots from other Air Forces training with our forces, partly so they can take back strategic/logistical information to their groups which they can then integrate into their training, making them and us a more cohesive group if we have to join up in real battles.
God Bless America and the Men and Women Who Keep US Safe.
HMMM all seems rosy
For a full blown WWIII? NO!
good to see some shade towards canada. too many mild language and not enough direct language…maybe because of goodwill? flying under the radar, canada is.
Was in the RAF for 18 years and retired in 94. Since the late eighties we stopped
training ie no station excercises in Germany. Due to saving money.
It's all been down hill from there. More and more area's went civilian once again to save
money. Operation types went down. Now the guy's leaving can't even get their pension.
We've no chance if we ever get into a hostile situation. We fly the flag with one or two jets.
Who are we kidding.
Didn't i just watch this?
Yes. Breaking into two episodes because of copyright claim (MiG-31 image) on original, which caused UA-cam to take it down. See “community” tab on channel for more details.
@WardCarroll Right. Thank you for clearing that up. Not that it's possible to get too much of Justin 😅
Interesting video. Bronk is always interesting.
When I saw the title, I was expecting something else. That is on me.
Actually, what I was expecting was some comparison with the Russians. If it came to a war between NATO and Russia, the latter's air force would be shot down in a day or two, based on what has gone on in Ukraine. In fact, Russia's air force has been losing capability steadily since the beginning of the Ukraine war. This is a combination of relatively poor training, the effect of sanctions on their technology and the loss of many of the experienced pilots they had.
Hey Justin. Still the best money ever spent?
I hear about Air Force pilots doing sorties all the time, but do they ever do filteries?
Why don't they all just come train over the central USA? We love just seeing a-10s here! I'm actually not joking when I suggest this, if there's a way to get them here. I realize it would be expensive, but then everyone could train together too. Really doesn't have to be his essential USA they could just do it somewhere where it's possible to do that.
Even practicing over European airspace as a single space, instead of within political boundaries might be better. It doesn't sound like that's possible there. Not for training. So train it over here. Or somewhere.
The Canadian airforce has airspace issues? Really?
One country that has completely "outsourced" its airforce roles to its next door allies is Ireland (and it's not even a NATO member).
Ireland needs a believable and resilient coastguard asap. They are the EU outer border and prone to drugs logistics along their coastline.
Canada has done the same exact thing with our air force army and navy, its all the bare minimum for the Americans to think we contribute. We have some new ships and f-35s coming but for the size we are geographically we need more and when we do get the new equipment its going to be literally decades before we even think about getting new stuff We have more ocean front and more land than everyone else besides russia yet we have 80-90 and fighters 15 patrol planes . With out America we would be screwed
@@willpugh8865unfortunately the US like it this way. we get to be the big scary, we make the big decisions, everyone else gets in line (and spends billions paying the US for their equipment on top of all that)
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I love mine.
How does NATO readiness and moral compare with their assumed adversaries?
Im just a civilian from Romania , so i admit that my opinion it's subjective and maybe uninformed ,but i have to say that most western EU nations are somewhat naive and don't really grasp the reality of the war, and the long term consequences if Russia manages to have positive gains in Ukraine . Also i have to say i have little to no trust in the west EU NATO countries , if the war reaches the east NATO border , not because of incompetence but political agendas . The only other NATO allies i believe will honor the treaty are the other east eu NATO members and the U.S. The F-16 jet pilot training center recently opened in Romania gives me hope , because that was more of an U.S. effort .
Great insight on “trust” of EU / NATO. What is their “will” to actually fight with you on the front line. Well stated!
Good to see the Dr. again.
Glad we don't have F-16's screaming for diversity classes, or F-18's begging for equality with the Stealth family.... Yet.
No, just A-10 and F-16 drivers who look at the F-35's CAS claims with derision because they saw the F-35 training schedule and the see that there isn't a single CAS training sortie scheduled.
The Political military industrial complex will have to decide if spending money to keep loading the desert parking lots full of old weapons of war has value?
Bad ass Jets are cool, but is the juice worth the squeeze when in the long run, the tech can do it cheaper and with better performance?
We know that each air-wing costs a shit ton of cash just to be ready for battle in the Hardware, fuel, training, logistics, food, medical, hiring, boot camp, and retirements.
I’m Canadian. And our government is a total embarrassment They’ve gutted our military. And now is cutting a further $15 billion from the military budget. If I was the USA I’d leave Canada on it’s own in the event of any problems!! .
What happend to the full interview?? Taken down due to safety/classification concern or just for Ward to make more money on splitting it up?
Copyright claim that was solved. 😐
🤷🏻... No notice...
This must be a recycle
All western nations enjoy wonderful equipment. The gear is up to the task. Our cultures, on the other hand, are not.
Neither our political class nor the average citizen, has the stomach nor the historical frame of reference, to engage in a serious, long-term, high body count war.
The Abrams tank and the Arleigh Burke destroyer are positively awesome platforms. Do we have field grade and flag rank leadership actually capable of and willing to effectively employ these assets IF they can get a green light from the uniparty kleptocrats in the District of Conflumbia? I am doubtful.
Lucky for me, I like Chinese food.
Trust me, you don't actually like Chinese food. Ever heard about the Siege of Suiyang?
Didn't need an 11 min video answer is obviously just "yes".
Germany needs to move on from their past. They should've done many years ago.
As a german I can absolutely concur to the impression Mr. Bronk must have had when visiting and talking to his fellow colleagues. The political mood in Germany is rock bottom right now, due to the current financial instability because of the Germans supreme court verdict - effictively "vaporizing" 60 bn. € into thin air. It is a mess with this gov. right now; run by m0r0ns, who aren't able to 1. forecast a possible outcome of the high court (and prepare for it) and 2. not being able to create a constitutionally valid financial budget for the past years! Just for that Germany should be kicked out of NATO... "Freedom has a price tag" sth. lost on the greens and socialists!
Basically, what I heard is (to borrow from Winston) that the combined NATO air force is the worst air force except for all the other air forces that exist out there today
There’s an old saying. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. This guy makes me think he’s a foreign agent. Just my first thought.
Justan Canada is fine. I am pretty sure Canada will send F-18, such as they are, to Ukraine as soon as F-35 are received. Can’t say the same for other countries. Canada is a Russian border country and should be developing a strong military presence in the future. We will see. Ruck Fussia
Who do you hate more? China or Russia?
Ukraine may be under the US nuclear umbrella already if they don’t have them
Ukraine could build their own nuclear weapons? Discuss…
With all due respect to Justin, it’s Justin Bronk, PhD, not “Dr. Justin Bronk.” I spent 12 years at a major research university, and I can’t stand it when a non-medical person is called “Dr.” in front of his or her name. Even the Dean of our school at the time said that. “Don’t call me Dr. So-and-so.” It’s used to confer authority, and not in a good way. I.e., don’t question me because I’m supposedly an expert.
All due respect, given the quality of education these days, the title of "Doctor" doesn't mean much anymore, no matter who assumes it. I don't care if it'an MD or a PhD. Scary times.
@@e.l.norton I would definitely agree, although at least medical doctors have to pass a board certification test every few years to continue practicing as a physician. Still, medical errors are very much a real thing. Just like anything else, you have to think for yourself and be your own advocate.
I'm a medical doctor, I have absolutely no problem with a doctor of philosophy being called "Doctor" providing you're not in a clincial environment. If you've done a PhD you've damn well earned it.
With all due respect, that's not how we do it in the UK. Here when you have a PhD you are entitled to refer to yourself as Doctor.
I understand that in the US things are different, but as you can probably discern from Dr Bronk's accent he is not from the US. So there you go.
@@hammondpickle Calling non-medical people with PhDs “Doctor” is part of the western vernacular, and it’s growing. Again, it’s often used to confer authority in a way that is often used to stifle debate.
why are you so worry ? Russian Air force in such a bad conditiion that not even a considiration, Who else China?? Paper Dragon, But yeah he is right NATO Air Force are naked...Need to learn more from Israelies pilots :)
What a dumb statement, Russia has more fighters operational than all of Western Europe combined. And more strategic bombers operational than the USA. Russian air force is very strong and su 57 is finishing its first 12 plane production run w new engines and expecting to build 22 next year. 🤣
@JamesOMalley-hb4tf dude before you post anything or trying to insult someone. Try better. How do you know what is going on in Russian Air force. What is the condition of Aircraft? How many hours does the pilot flew?
@@Karabas-Barasbas5 by using reading comprehension and doing research. Russian pilots fly nearly the same hours and some than Americans. You can Google Russian air force and see for yourself. 🤡 how do you know the Russian air force is in "bad shape" ? 🤣 just wait until you figure out they have better missiles with longer range and arguably the best radar in the world.... 😂
@@JamesOMalley-hb4tf dude , I'm from Soviet union so what ever ruzzians are saying you have to divide it by ten.
Ask yourself very simple question, how second army in the world is struggling against poores country in the Europe I mean Ukraine ?
Now their Aircrafts are suffering from outdated Aivionics and Very poor electronics craftsman. Why ruzzians are not flying over Ukraine and only use very old SU24 and only at the front line ? What good operational Aircraft they have ? None, they can't use them since they don't have high precision weapons. Again when the last time they faced Dog fight ? Ohh I can tell you in 1972 in Israel , operation "Focus" they lost 5 MIGs and they were not flying over mid-east anymore.
@@JamesOMalley-hb4tf you have no idea what are you talking about, SU-57...ok ok, They are sending old T-64 to the battle cause they can't supply new tanks and you are talking about high precision missiles...They don't have resources for this. You need to stop reading what russians are writing and listen to what their military personnel says...best rockets my ass , have you seen pictures of SU-34 covered with car tires? Dude stop smoking what you are smoking or at least share it... Good day
With all due respect to both of you and your professionalism and experience, I would be more than happy if by some chance you'll manage to look into the following news article from June, last year (2022). Needless to say, the "investigation" led up to nowhere. Any explanation from the authorities is still missing. It was the time when we had these S-300 missiles, hitting farms in Poland, or Tu-141 Reconnaissance jets hitting Croatia's capital - Zagreb, despite this...NATO Air...Something-something...One last thing before pasting the article- I'm writing this in one desperate attempt to dispel doubts that such a thing as "NATO Air Force" exists. Nope. There is the USAF and some allied "support"...In my opinion. Without further ado:
Phantom plane played with the nerves of six NATO countries
Jun 10, 2022
A small aeroplane toyed with the nerves of the air defences of six NATO members before landing on Thursday (9 June) in a small airfield in Bulgaria, whereby the pilot and passengers promptly disappeared.
The prosecutor’s office in the Bulgarian city of Targovishte launched an investigation into a mysterious incident with a small ‘Beechcraft’ plane that flew into the skies of several European countries and landed at a local airfield usually reserved for agricultural aircraft.
The aircraft was found abandoned with a still-warm engine.
It is unclear why the 60-year-old two-seater flew over almost all of Europe to land in Bulgaria or whether the unknown pilot was alone or had passengers.
The Bulgarian Ministry of Interior said the plane took off Lithuania and passed through seven countries, including Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Serbia, before landing in Bulgaria. Six of them, except Serbia, are NATO members.
The media reported that the air defences in several countries spotted the intruder, scrambling jets to intercept it while trying to initiate contact with the pilot, without success.
The plane entered Bulgaria from the northern city of Vidin, where it landed for refuelling, but it is not known precisely where it was refuelled.
The Ministry of Defense announced that the plane entered the airspace of Bulgaria without an approved flight plan shortly after 7 pm on Wednesday.
The plane was reportedly spotted by the Hungarian and Romanian Air Force, which scrambled F-16 jets to intercept the Beechcraft. Upon entering Bulgarian airspace, the country’s air force was also activated.
The media quoted the director of the airport in Debrecen, Hungary, who reportedly said the Beechcraft also landed at a small airport in Hungary. Reportedly five or six people got off and refuelled the plane using jerrycans. The Hungarian police tried to stop them, but they were swift and took off quickly.
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