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With the opening statement, i wish he would visit south carolina air national guard, eastover, sc and i feel he would be impressed. I am no longer part of national guard but SCANG has a good history. Iraq 02, 03, jordan, Afghanistan, etc
I believe that UKIP were extremely competent in working for the people they represented - Russian operatives. Boris Johnson managed to get a seat in the House of Lords for Lebedev, the son of a KGB agent Boris met at a party in Italy when Boris was foreign secretary. See? Very effective in representing their people. Just not you and me.
@@valuggel8972 Ukraine's problem is that every Western politician feels they can avoid blame if Ukraine falls but none feel they'll take the credit if it triumphs.
This is probably the best argument for funding the war that I've seen so far. Everyone always tries to lecture on the morality of it, when none of it is moral. People know this and those appeals come off as condescending to those who aren't complete trend zombies. Bronk's characterization of the otherwise cliche "peace through strength" doctrine is the way politicians should be framing the war. He's right about Europe, as well. There are many problems facing the continent right now, but at some point people have to see the trade-offs. You can't just pretend that you're serving the people because you're putting your budget toward the NHS while the US spends all of its money on war. You have to acknowledge that part of what allows the EU to be successful is NATO and the massive contributions that the US makes to the alliance, as well as the broader worldwide deterrence strategy employed by the US against all members of anti-Western opposition. Unlike the old Soviet Bloc, China is a thriving economy embedded into every aspect of Western industry and fueled by Western inaction. Deterrence against this sort of enemy AND the other fronts in Europe and the Middle East is not something that can be undertaken by the US alone.
Yes, but China has the so call "100 years of humiliation" anguish crap. So if they find a weakness in the western power they will use it immediately. Just to remember that there still is CCCP in power and in the Korean war in 50's they cross the border from north with 500000 troops overnight against the UN coalition . So if Russia is not beaten to learn for good this will not end well for anybody.
There is a lot of that talk. Why do we need to fight China? Nobody can formulate the reasons behind it. All you need is to walk into Walmart and see where the stuff is made to realize how out of touch people who are calling for that war are.
Uh, it's our corrupt west that tries to rob Russia and the rest of the world all the time. It's never the other way around. Starting with the simply fact, that Europe got shit worth to conquer/rob and the USA mainly wood and coal left, so, yeah, not really. Our 'free west' wants to be strong to dominate the world and take what they want. By the way only for our "elites" of course.
Wow Justin killed it with this one! His analysis is absolutely excellent! Please tell him thank you, for sharing his time with us, and thank you Mooch for everything you're doing. I really appreciate the straight question & answer, no sensationalism or bullspit.
Justin clearly has an amazing, perhaps unparalleled command of a plethora of facts on all aspects of military weapons systems and their geopolitical distribution on both sides of current and potential future conflicts. Most impressive is that at the end of this episode, he reveals his brilliant understanding of the operational, strategic, and international political levels of warfare, and their manifestation in the current geopolitical situation. Bravo on another virtuoso performance, Justin!
Dr Bronk is detailed and clear with his data and analysis. Thanks for having him on your show occasionally. The context he provides brings clarity to a difficult situation in Ukraine. BZ
A great presentation as always Ward. At the 53:30 min mark, for all our American friends who grow "tired"' of the long war. It's time to recall an excerpt from this great speech by a great leader of the world 60 years ago. These words, every single word, applies to us here now... ...from President John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address (1961) "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge--and more. To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided there is little we can do--for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder."
My question to you would be when did Ukraine become our friend? Non Nato member, not even a member of the EU. Sure, I support that with our true allies. Canada, France, the UK to name a few. We've never cared about Ukraine back then, we don't now. The only reason we see them as friends is because we hate Russians. To that, I ask why?What has that Gov done to us since 1992? I can't think of anything.
Old allies....like Russia? Russia was an ally before the Bolsheviks....so why does everyone ignore what the west has actually done towards Russia in the last 20+ years as opposed to what Russia has actually done to anyone else. Ukraine is a thoroughly corrupt money laundering puppet state.
Yes. The key reason for this is that western media is owned by a handful of people. A simple example. How many Russian soldiers have died in the Ukraine war? US government / CNN and so on claim 390000. The leaked Pentagon papers stated it was 34000-43000. BBC and Medizona have tracked Russian media/social media and have a real number of 39400. Exact inline with the leaked Pentagon papers. Ukraine casualties are 100% censored. That is why we see 0 figures about it beside the insane Russian claims. I hope we all understand how dangerous it is when the Western media is painting up a picture that have no base in reality. In the same article US claim Russia outnumber Ukrine 3-1 on the front. According to Zelensky Ukraine have 600K active military. USA say Ukraine have 500K. Putin says that Russia have 640K troops. According to Ukraine Russia have 450k troops in Ukraine. How the F do the media /Pentagon claim 1-3? 50 countries have sent weapons to Ukraine. Almost all destroyed. And the reason for the war is not "Putler mad". It is way more complex and Ukraine will turn its back to NATO after the war since they where used as cannonfodder.
There was no apparent analysis of or comment about Russia "aging out" demographics. They simply don't have any way of replacing the elderly who are dyeing at a much faster rate than the current diminishing birth rate. By 2040 in all liklyhood they won't have a labor force to grow and produce food or have enough young men or women to manufacture weapons of war or put on a uniform and fight with anyone. America needs to seriously accelerate the weapons supply to Ukraine for at lest three more years. Very doable if we vote out the Washington D.C swamp bent on making socialists out everyone.
This all nice but part of the responsibility lies on the US's shoulders. It's like we've all forgotten about the Wolfowitz doctrine. I won't depict Russia and Putin as the victim. But try and roll back 20 years ago. Russia was a partner, France was going to deliver stealth military ships, US airlines flew to Moscow, business would run hot between Russia and western countries. Russia was a buoyant partner, a partner nonetheless. And the situation was improving. Also, remember the Minsk agreements, and then the steps towards Ukraine's joining Nato. How was Russia suppposed to interpret that ? And what about the pressure upon russian-speaking populations since 2014 ? We didn't bat an eye despite documented bombardments of civilian populations by ukrainian forces. We have done everything for that war to happen. And nothing against. In accordance with the Wolfowitz doctrine and D.C.'s cultural neoconservatism. This fascinating interview deals with tactical issues, not political, cultural, diplomatic roots of it all. Very interesting though 👍
From Canada: Hey, Ward - I join with the others commenting on the high quality of your output. Thanks. And also thank you for knowing when to let you guests express themselves without interrupting.
As a Canadian I can speak to your comments. Growing up in the 90s I knew many young people that thought about joining the Forces, but when you talked to people in uniform back then (and maybe still) they were almost always unhappy due to uneven training and terrible kit, it really dissuaded lots of us from joining. When the PM used the army in old age homes during COVID it really hurt morale and a lot of people quit.
I was in the US Army from 04-08. Similarly, we had lots of issues with gear. My weapon would jam due to a mechanical failure at least once per training exercise, including once in combat in Iraq. The ACU camo we were given didn't match the terrain. Spare parts for vehicles and weapons were unheard of, so we stole them from units. That's not to mention all the blame we endured from senior enlisted and officers for s😂t we had no control over. I'm telling my kids not to do it, which is sad because I've had relatives in nearly EVERY major war going neck to the revolution.
@@Jon.A.Scholt cool story. Cope with your worship of the state, and being sent to war to die frivolously by unserious former teachers, lawyers and real estate agent MPs however you need to brah.
Sensational quality content. Thx @WardCarroll for making this available. Living in Austria, you know something is changeing in Europe when 2/3 of the austrians think it is a good idea to spend more money for our armed forces. We have crippled our defensive military capabilities to a point that are a joke in the last decades. Based on this turn around I hope that Justin's scenario of a weak Europe will not become reality.
I looked it up and you're right, 69 percent support the recent increase in military spending and 57 percent want to spend even more. When I was still living in Austria, there was a sense of pride that we don't waste money on the military
It’s been a multi decade campaign by Russia to demoralise the west and cause us to be indecisive. You can see it in all aspects of us not standing up for what is important to us.
I admire the pacifism, but disarmament in the modern system leads to MORE violence not less. Paradoxically. I would be happier if countries who choose to do such a thing still keep an aspect of their force top notch. Just having great mountain infantry can be valuable, Even if the rest sucks, with the Alliance.
@@JoeyJoJoJr0 Most all of the western volunteer fighters have said "f' this" at this point in time. 😂 Ukraine is recruiting women for the meat grinder now 🤷♂
Justin's eloquent speaking, knowledge, experience and credibility are impressive. This video gives me something that I can share to politicians here in the us. My letters to them don't carry much weight even if I've been saying basically, exactly what Justin is saying. People don't respond to the message, they respond to the messenger. Thank you for this tremendous asset that I can use to influence people in the right direction!
@@The_ZeroLine Yes, because unfortunately most politicians (globally) only look to the weekly and monthly polls and just keeping their HUGE $$$$ for doing next to nothing.
@@xxyyzzplants131You didn't finish your comment...It should have read "I like the young Doctor because, he doesn't sound like (the) pompous ass that he is...!"
How can Justin be smart and not know that Ukraine has exhausted: money from most NATO countries, military equipment from most NATO countries, $$$ from U.S. taxpayers, military equipment from the DOD in un-United States... The war is over...Let that sink in...Russia is and has been slowly winning by draining the U.S. of $$$ and weapons along with all the other NATO countries...It has become an almot won war of attrition... Someone want to guess if Justin's so smart, he is completely unaware that Putin is not willing to end the war in Ukraine until he can be assured that Ukraine will come to be a very NEUTRAL country and it's very likely he will finish the war off before December of 2024. Then he will likely be dealing with a U.S. President that is actually alive and can hopefully think straight about the new world order that will have a very different "pecking order"...!
As Ukrainian I express gratitute for you to put this conversation on public. We are really heavily dependent on Western support not only to win but to survive either.
You always dependent on someone it is your specialization. Before 2014 you begged for the discounts for gas from Russia never paying your previos bills saying that we are brotherhood states and Russia can't leave Ukraine without support. For the west it is just a new story but we saw it for years.
@@doublehelix7880 Nice try Ivan. So nobody can express support for a country being attacked without going there himself. Send yourself to Russia then, if you're not already there.
As a lifelong student of these types of political and military issues for over 45 years (when I was a cadet at uni, as a NATO fighter pilot and as a strategic consultant), everything that Justin and Ward say here ticks all the necessary boxes and stacks up logically for me. Western governments need to act accordingly, and keep doing so for as long as it takes.
Do you seriously think that most, if any, of our politicians are serious or Intelligent at anything (besides lining their pockets, and some can't even do that).
How much are these guys getting paid by Military-Congressional Industrial Complex and Intel agency criminals. What WAS purpose of NATO? Have we kept our commitments to any agreements? Y'all have the blood of 500,000+ Ukrainians on your hands.
@@fredrickcombs1629for some strange reasons, Brits are afraid that if Ukraine fells, Putin will soon role tanks towards them. I mean, it is obvious, Putin want London City and British tea. And for king Charles to point him as PM of UK. And that makes Brits very, very afraid.😂
Those Rafales in the Mach Loop look beautiful; the French know how to make a beautiful aircraft. The single seat Mirage 2000 is still my all time favorite.
What we are learning from witnessing the Russo-Ukraine war is in several ways a replay of World War I. Specifically, weapons technology has outstripped the lingering tactics of a previous era, resulting in offensive operations becoming too costly to sustain long enough to make decisive gains. In that war, offensive tactics consisted mainly of massed infantry formations charging enemy lines. These Napoleonic era tactics might've worked as late as the Franco-Prussian War, but by 1914 the prevalence of machine guns, bolt-action rifles, and improved long-range artillery made these massed infantry assaults ineffective and prohibitively bloody. Today, 20th century tactics for mechanized warfare are being outstripped by 21st century weapons technology. In the budding age of drone warfare, the Cold War adage of "If it can be seen, it can be hit, and if it can be hit it can be killed" is true more than ever. Mass up for an armored offensive, and it won't take long before you are discovered and any element of surprise is gone. Another consideration is that what was once a capability enjoyed largely by America alone - the ability to quickly coordinate massed air and artillery fire on a target - is now something that more nations have, including the Russians and the Ukrainians. Again, once you break cover to go on the attack, you'll not only soon be seen but all kinds of indirect fire will soon be coming down on you. Is it any surprise that neither side in this conflict can gain an advantage using the tactics of their grandfathers in an age of constant surveillance and precision guided munitions? Is it any surprise that as a result, to survive both sides have gone to ground? Or that they are expending artillery ammunition at phenomenal rates to just pound away at each other's trench lines? I hope that NATO planners are realizing that we need to come up with a totally new way of warfighting, particularly land and air warfare, that will not rely on large-scale mechanized assaults into the teeth of prepared defenses. There's no way that Western populations will put up with the kind of go-nowhere slaughter that's happening in the Ukraine right now.
Good point but in an actual war all space surveillance would be targeted (because America relies on it) and the fog of war would be much thicker, Ukraine is a unique situation.
The West has the capability to move forward. In WW1 both sides were throwing all they had at the front and were getting nowhere. Ukraine has been trickle fed weapons. This is not the same as either WW.
Yes, but the fact that Ukraine hasn’t been able to gain much ground is because the Western alliance hasn’t provided Ukraine with enough tools to push Russian forces back. If the full weight of NATO forces were employed, there’s no doubt that Russia would be pushed back to the 1991 border.
It wasn't by accident that of all the possible realms the war was pivoted to where the volume of dumb shells is the key deciding factor. The Russians knew they had the fundamental advantage there. And had it been some other resource, we'd be talking abt that thing now not the shells. Like in the Cuban Missile Crisis, that resource was the fidelity of control over the nuke. Khrustchev had military/party/kgb i.e. triply redundant hierarchy ensuring he was heard/understood/followed, at speed and nuance. Kennedy just had the military & they 2nd guessed / didn't trust each other. That enabled Khrustchev to dance that much closer to the nuclear edge. Note how that engagenent's conventional metrics (proximity to home base, relative force scale & structure, technological superiority, etc) were all rendered moot - the only thing that'd mattered was who can walk closer to the edge of nuclear abyss without falling over. That's what got the Jupiters out if Turkey w/o a replacement. Anyway, back to shells. Russia's advantage in bumb shells is fundamental because such shells are a relatively simple, low-margin, specialized item. I.e. in a free market driven economy, it's a pretty terrible investment to expand their production catering to peak demand.
@@AlexKarasev The LOX/kerosene fuelled Jupiters and Atlases were as obsolete in 1962 as the R-7. The US had Titans and Minutemen coming online, and Polaris in the subs, so IRBMS like Jupiters and Thors in Turkey did not need to be replaced.
@@awuma not sure if your reply is sarcasm or serious so I'll respond in the same deadpan manner. When comparing deterrent (or first strike) value of a given position, flight time is the #1 - nay - #0 priority. Moscow was 8 minutes from Turkey, and nothing was stopping newer missiles to eventually replace the obsolete Jupiters except the promise made in exchange for the Soviets getting theirs out of Cuba (6min flight time to DC). But this is a side branch from the main point - he who manages to pivot the fighting to their chosen dimension, wins. Regardless of the power imbalance in other realms. Such realms could be time, land, reputation, proximity, blood, treasure, objectivity, taste, strength, speed, range, altitude, heat, cold, and so on. Have you seen the movie Ford vs Ferrari? That race was about breaks. These things are often counter-intuitive.
Justin’s perspective just changed my mind about supporting Ukraine. Not because of any one side is right or wrong but deterring Russia from thinking twice about going to war with us.
Why would Russia WANT to go to war with your country? Do you WANT to go to war with them? And if so, why? If you're American, you are already in 1st place for "Countries Russia DOES NOT want to go to war with." If you belong to a NATO country, the same protections are afforded to you by proxy. Our support for the corrupt Zelensky regime is DRIVING hostility for the west, not improving our security or "making Russia think twice"
but the problem is does Ukraine have the menpower. to fight long war. and can they outlast Russian. in terms of menpower and as well as operational capacity. if they dont detteriorate then something is really wrong with Russian army.
Who's "us"? As long as you don't attack Russia and don't creep on their borders and place troops there, you don't need to worry about war with them. Because that's what this is about: your "us" has been trying to march towards Russia's borders, and put its troops and weapons at Russia's borders, and Russia is putting a stop to it in Ukraine now.
Dr. Bronk is one of the very few people, who actually know what they're talking about and are able to convey their take on the situation in crystal clear terms. If we do let Russia and China get their way now, we're risking a hot world war with unimaginable consequences.
+ Iran, and a long list of other evil actors (Hamas, Hesbollah, Syria, Taliban; Venezuela) and so on we have to keep these morons at a distance. Borders closed down, and so on. Why do we have daily flights e.g. from Tehran to Munich? There should be *0* flights from Iran into the whole EU.
I have a 9 year old daughter. In 10 years time when we are fighting a war against China, Russia, Iran and North Korea and she gets her draft notice, she's going to say to me "Why didn't you guys sort this?"
This is another exceptional, highly articulate analysis from Dr Justin Bronk. It's very rare to get insights of this breadth and depth, with no hesitation or wasted words... on any topic, let alone two simultaneous hot wars, two strategic politico-military challenges and an uncertain political climate on two continents. Thank you, Ward & Justin.
You the paid follower or Ward's second account. We just wasted another $100.000.000. According to USA MSM Ukraine should have already "liberated" Luhanks and Donetsks. Justin what a great guy he wants to Built up our Economy with more WAR INDUSTRY. Justin is a little WAR MONGERING British "cigarette".
More articulate than yourself with your non-British accent? The guy is deluded and brainwashed actually but maybe you like that, hence the countless hours of watching this utter trash. 🤓 It's better to watch Star Wars.
Total nonsense actually. Natobots: "Russia can't take one village in ukraine ha ha" Also Natobots: "Russia is going to attack entire world next year!" Delusional and delirious in both cases.
@@bdleo300Nice try, Ivan. How many rubbles you get for that comment? Russkibots: Russia just wants peace and security from evil imperialist NATO. Also russkibots: We would never invade NATO because we can't beat the whole world, we only want to attack helpless countries. How crazy of you evil natobots to prepare for Russian invasion!
Yes, if they were to present this case, the truth, then the USA would be united on the responsibility to defend Europe and Europe would be defending Ukraine
@@Greg-yu4ij Ah, yes, the myth of it being "Russia bad, Ukraine good" instead of what it really is: "Russia bad, Ukraine also bad." Or are we going to just gloss over how Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, as well as one filled with National Socialist admirers, an inconvenient fact even the New York Times had to admit.
Such a knowledgeable and articulate source of info. What a waste war is. I hope lots of people with any concern for Ukraine get to see this as soon as possible. Please pass it around.
concern with ukraine is concern for lockheed martin and blackrock profits the military age men of ukraine are all already dead. not much left to be concerned about there. thats from time magazine who said the "average age of ukr soldiers is 46" no im not russian no im not a communist im just the person telling you the truth. this has been known for 2 years. endless war and debt only benefits the banks.
@@SabbaticusRex Bronk makes the explicit point that relaxing the defense of Ukraine now will only give the Orcs time to better prepare for their next assaults. Did you miss Bronk's point entirely?
@@SabbaticusRex pushing EU against Russia as much possible is exactly in US interest, to avoid what from US perspective is the sum of all fears: a strong EU/Russia partnership which could challenge US world dominance
As a Canadian I’m greatly disappointed with our countries inability to procure military equipment in a sane, orderly manner. The F35 debacle is the most recent example. But it’s been the same for helicopters, ships, and basic equipment. Everything becomes a political football, so nothing gets done. Who wants to work in that kind of environment? One man’s opinion.
That is 100% on the liberal party. They cancel contracts that the conservatives sign and then end up paying more later or buying junk subs, etc. Trudeau and this liberal party are more obsessed with making everyone call males women than they are of Canada having a competent military and defence strategy.
The Liberals have committed a bunch of long term capital funding, which is essentially them kicking the can down the road to another finance minister to actually spend in a future budget. There's also a ton of politcal games with procurement that relate to MPs wanting to buy votes by making sure certain firms get government contracts that please the right stakeholders within their ridings. Our military is in an excessively sorry state across the board and it is going to take a really vociferous effort to make it clear to the public why we need to invest a lot more money into the military.
One F35 or 115000 drone. If you have air defense, the drones are way better. BTW. Canada should have bought Gripen. 1/7 the cost and smaller radar cross-section then SU57.
I remember being a teenager in the 90s during the whole Sea King clusterfuck, what a mess. This country needs a functioning military procurement process and we need it 30 years ago FFS.
Good point about FOD clearance. Which will involve both a lot of work and a cultural shift. The Soviets were infamous for using pretty shoddy concrete for airfields.
The Great Big Problem WRT security in Europe is that it's been nearly 35 years since they felt threatened...meaning the entire current political establishment treats the subject as a distraction, at best as an industrial base opportunity.
How do we get Justin to hammer these realities into the thick skulls of Western governments ? He puts it so clearly it's impossible to miss unless you are dimwitted to the extreme or simply stupid enough not to want to hear the reality. Thanks Justin.
Unfortunately I think you’ve just described most of our leaders 😟 They need to wake up Ukraine is already suffering with attention being centred on Israel at the moment.
@@eozeL68Israel doesn’t need the same support Ukraine does. It’s mainly using air power not 155. The idea that Ukraine is just being used as a test ground is patently absurd as almost everything sent is old and already battle tested. Even Stormshadow, which is 20 years old and was already the subject of a update/replacement program, has seen use in Lybia and the Gulf. As it stands Ukraine defeating Russia is way more important than supporting Israel in a police action. Providing other Arab countries stay out of it. Even Iran has stated Hamas will not get direct support. The only danger is if Israel cause so many civilian casualties that the Arab countries feel they can’t just watch. But that’s why the carriers are there. I don’t see them jumping in to what they consider is a crises of Hamas own making.
@marknicholson2281 Ukraine will never defeat Russia no matter how much Nato tries. Its like when you hear people saying oh Germany lost the war because of the winter and so on, the actual truth is Germany would never have won against the Soviet Union no matter what they did. It is just a superior country when it comes to military mobilisation and production. They are a very bad choice of enemy for anyone to have. The worst. A war against them on their turf is unwinnable. The good thing with them though is they never go to other people's turf.
I listen to roughly 10 to 12 hours a day 6 days a week of UA-cam news content and have followed the Ukraine war in great detail. This was the single most informative video I have consumed and all that time. Many thanks!
After spending so much time on UA-cam, btw what's your job description?, you should have a more clear view on what's actually happening in UA. Most probably you have chosen to listen to only one side of the conflict, otherwise you wouldn't have classified this video as "the single most informative video". Prime example that this is not the case is that he claims that the number of downed RU planes provided by UA is way off and then taking the rest of the data provided by UA on face value and using them for his analysis.
@@mikek.1761If I remember correctly, he only discussed two of the data points: casualties and aircraft losses. He generally agreed with one and disagreed with the other, spending some time discussing why for each. Maybe I overlooked it, but I don't remember him giving any credit or doubt to any other figure on that "box score".
I work as an engineer in the defense industry and right now my employer is hiring pretty much anyone with a relevant bachelor’s engineering degree and a clean criminal record because we simply need more engineers. It’s not a bad problem to have, especially since many other sectors of the economy (particularly tech) are hard to get entry level jobs in, and the local economy gets a big boost too.
And all just for the destruction of Ukraine, the Ukrainian nation, 6 million Ukrainian refugees, 200,000+ Ukraine KIA, plus wounded, widows, and orphans. 60,000 Russian KIA, plus wounded, widows, and orphans. Destroying Germany's economy. Disabled people in Europe who need an electric wheel chair not being able to afford to charge them. US Defense Industries and US Oil companies posted record profits in 2022. Does anyone doubt the US Military Industrial Petroleum Complex, US Congress, EU and NATO leaders don't understand their own 'business model' how it works and how to profit. It couldn't be more simple.
As Justin points out twice in this interview, the cost of deterrent military power is a pittance in comparison with the human and economic costs of an undeterred war.
The cost of weapons systems and services goes into the sand, but the profit part into the pockets of the right folks. To halt such investment is to tell for-profit defense enterprises to suspend operations, let their investors get margin calls, and lose core skills. This is why the Wolfowitz Doctrine was adopted in 1992. You can't just stop the music.
@@zd1322 sophisticated investors have access to cheap capital and while an average reader of this can invest on margin (close to 1:1 leverage, using investment itself as the collateral), leverages of 5:1 or greater have been available to the sophisticated investors. At 5:1 leverage, a 20% drop in the investment wipes you out. How much was the drop in some of the Cold War era investments that the general public knows as the "Peace Dividend"? They couldn't kill that thing fast enough.
Echoes of Chamberlin’s “Piece in our time” months later Poland is split in half and the Blitz rolls through France… there’s some real stupidity in the US congress displayed.
This is one of the most compelling videos I’ve seen in a long time. Dr. Justin Bronk’s knowledge and experience are deep and his views are on point. This video should be required watching for all Americans. If China decides to attempt to invade Taiwan with all this going on, a potential WW III could be in the balance. I fear our young people aren’t prepared for what that would mean for us to ensure the survival of the American way of life as we’ve come to know it. Fantastic interview, Mooch.
Why do you care about Taiwan as an American, have you ever thought about that? Is the US anywhere near Taiwan? Maybe Its the US that should stop maintaining aggressive vassal states with the sole purpose of pissing off its geopolitical rivals.
"Russia is a military powerhouse that poses an existential threat to the other countries of Europe." "Russia is bogged down in Ukraine, its military disorganized and struggling to be effective." PICK ONE. Because both cannot be true.
🎚🇺🇸 *Historically it took the US roughly 3-4 years to ramp up into WWII.* *Russia doesn't have as far to go, but isn't transitioned yet.* *No leftist oriented government views people as other than a commodity to be manipulated, used, and disposed of by the state.* *Russian weapons tech isn't caught up, but it does maintain what is still considered the largest nuclear weapons stockpile in the world, and has been renewing its nuclear weapons stockpile, and has been steadily overhalling it's Strategic Rocket Forces do have far more accurate missile systems today than in the 1980's to mid 1990's. That is when it all began to quietly change.*
Maybe read some history. Russia's a slow learner that doesn't care much about losing masses of lives and equipment so long as they ultimately achieve victory. The Soviets lost every battle against Germany for a year at the start of the war, lost tons of territory including Kyiv and most of modern day Ukraine and 21 Million people overall during WW2. But eventually recovered to kick Hitler's ass
@@jbc-3975 Soviet Union was much bigger and more capable than modern day Russia. And the only reason they didn't lose to Germany was Land Lease Act that provided them with the critical resources and materiel they needed, some of which they just couldn't get on their own.
1st off you're confusing pre and post-war Soviet Union, but that doesn't change the fact that they endured 21 million dead and a years worth of horrible defeats but kept coming back for more. The fact that the US supplied some (I repeat 'some') of the equipment and weaponry is irrelevant to the point at issue - which is about the Russian public's seeming willingness to accept casualties that would cause Western countries to withdraw/ seek a negotiated settlement or capitulate. @@oberonmeister
If you read these dreams 20 times over they will never become reality...You are living in a dream cult...American has not won a war since WWII with Japan...!
5-6 years to train a pilot, dozens if not hundreds of millions for a plane, maintenance and training and then one rocket puts an end to all that in seconds. This model is unsustainable in a large scale conflict. Especially in a world of increasingly capable drones. The era of super expensive planes and flight jockeys is ending.
I agree that low cost and unmanned weapons systems are going to change the calculus quite a bit, but to say "The era of super expensive planes and flight jockeys is ending" is not too different then the stance in the 50's that the US Navy wasn't needed anymore because US Airforce super bombers would fight the next war. That didn't pan out at all. We love to push the pendulum to extremes not realizing that somewhere in the middle is reality most of the time.
I truly believe that f16 will make no difference in this war. I certainly don't want Ukraine to lose, but its impossible to see how this changes things enough to win this.
It will make difference. It will give ability to Ukrainians to harass Russians way they couldn't before, so it will prolong the war even further. Also, it's far convenient for Western countries to just send air deployed weapons from then on, without need to modify ex Soviet planes, like they've been doing so far.
Another excellent video, I like your style of commentary as well. I would be really interested in your take on the taking of the cargo ship in the Red sea.
This is freaking brilliant analysis by Justin. We need to get the word out on this here in the U.S. Stopping support for Ukraine should NOT be on the table. We should be INCREASING it.
Who or what should I believe? I've listened to several podcasts featuring former intelligence agents and military men such as Doug MacGregor, Andrei Mortyanov, Larry Johnson, Scott Ritter, Larry Wilkenson and Jeffery Sachs just to name a few. They all paint quite a different picture with the war in Ukraine. They assert as many as 700,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed compared to about 60,000 Russian soldiers killed. They all have impressive knowledge of world history, European history, military history. Ukraine at some point in the beginning wanted to enter negotiations with Russia and England's Boris Johnson put the kibosh on that at the behest of the United States. Regardless of what you may think of our involvement with other countries you have to look at our country and its current status. We're currently paying over 1 trillion dollars per year in interest payments on debt that can never be repaid. That combined with our current political and military state I don't think we are going to fare well in the years ahead. The middle east is more powerful and much stronger that it was back in 1991 or 2001. Quite sad for us if you ask me. And, it scares the hell out of me.
Believe MacGregor and Scott Ritter and other clear thinking minds who knew from the start that it was ridiculous to dream of Ukraine having any kind of chance of victory.
Ritter's a convicted sex offender and both are pissed off that they were drummed out of the military. They're also both on Putin's payroll - as I'm guessing are you - assuming you're not a Bot@@blackshoe2000
@@brodieboy3 Man, if you look at the comment by time, it's incredible how many Russian bots/payed actors there are. You can tell their point doesn't even make logical sense, instead it's just trying to create short term exaggerated psychological effects to the public as a tactic
Thanks for keeping Ukraine in the news stream...supporting Ukraine definately having a good impact on our "economy" and our readiness (war goods production). Would love to hear same discussion from Paco perspective...impact on our military readiness and capabilities.
He keeps talking about us pumping all that money into our own factories making munitions to send to Ukraine: as if it's a "good thing". But it's really just another source of bottomless money printing and continued inflation that is hung on the shoulders of every US citizen.. and we feel it every day at the pump, at the grocery store and the mortgage payment, etc. I can understand the idea of fighting the war front over there so we don't have to fight it here.. but we can't just pretend that all this money printing is beneficial to our economy- because ultimately it is just a form of tax on the American people and it is accelerating all the time. Inflation will be the downfall of the dollar and the fall of our great empire because those who create the money have blind eyes to it's consequences.
@@calholli It does not need to rest on ordinary citizens. A historically massive tax adjustment was provided at the top end of the tax spectrum in the previous administration which has driven us deep into deficit and we now argue about funding basic services for regular folks. Those beneficiaries are exactly the kinds of people most likely to benefit from Ukrainian control of proven Black Sea oil and gas. If you want to look for someone to actually fund aid to Ukraine, it's them. The "great again" part becomes a real thing by returning to the previously great-for-marginal-working-folks tax brackets.
@@calholliwe have been disposing our trash basically and getting russian kills with it. Thank God you have no say. You think the economy is like a household or business account.
@inscrutianaII seems like an easy solution and in general I'm not oppossed to it. However I think it can be a little more complicated than just raising taxes on places like Amazon and the Uber rich. You have to consider that many have the option to simply move their funds offshore, move their businesses out of the US etc. Doesn't matter if you have higher tax rates if noone pays them in the end.
"The enemy has made that decision for you." Actually no. NATO made that decision back in the 90's when a decision was made to renege on the agreement not to expand NATO. The ongoing fight in Ukraine is essentially a doubling down on that mistake making any prospect of a negotiated settlement very remote.
That”s a Russian lie and no document has been provided to support. But lets”s assume it was true then Russia would have the right to invade a soveiregn country?
(1) "Dictators and Bullies" are those who want to station nuclear warheads in Ukraine right beside Russia. (2) "Dictators and Bullies" are those who would vandalize and blow up the two Nord Stream pipelines. (3) Was not Crimea conquered by Catherine the Great of Russia in the 1800's ? (If Ukraine wanted to keep Khrushchev's gift of Crimea, they needed to stay in USSR. (4) The Minsk agreement was signed by Ukraine, Russia, OSCE, brokered by France.
Imagine if the West allowed Zelensky to negotiate peace in March 2022. Imagine if we never enacted the 2013 Ukranian coup at all. Crimea would still be Ukranian. Unbelieveable, right? And to think we threw it away.
Nobody talk about that. The truth is that, some western countries wanted this war. As a result of this desire to lead proxy war with Russia,they annihilated Ukraine.
Indeed. The west has been trying to destroy Russia for 400 years and counting across 6 different wars. A different solution to deal with Russia long term is needed.
I'm a bit puzzled the F-18 has not been mentioned more. It's more rugged than the F-16. But, as Ward and Justin have previously noted, the Gripen would be best. The problem would be supply. But aren't there lots of F-18 Classics sitting at Davis-Monthan? Considering that the Ukrainians are flying resuscitated museum pieces and wrecks, the F-18's could be useful.
@@awuma There are some early versions of the F-18 in Australia, Canada, and elsewhere, slated for replacement by F-35’s… My guess is that it’s been hard enough getting one training program going, let alone two. But as far as I’m concerned, all this logistics should have started two years ago
The guy's history is wrong too. Chechenia was part of the Russian Federation but Russia pulled out its military for five years 94-99, not a 'six month ceasefire'. In that time the territory because essentially lawless and served as a springboard for terror into surrounding areas and more ethnically Russian parts of the Federation. There was no 'six month ceasefire' or any ceasefire in the Georgia-Russian war either. Instead Georgia attacked two areas that had gained autonomy way back at the breakup of the Soviet Union (and had been autonomous even in Soviet times), and that attack included attacks on the Russian peacekeepers in the area. Russia invaded and advanced to about 40 km from Tblisi, at which time peace talks were held and Russia withdrew. It gained nothing and the status quo ante was restored. Georgia has gradually returned to more normal relations with the Russian Federation...as befits a country that has tens of thousands of its citizens working in Russia. In Syria it was the Western powers and Turkey that fomented a supposed 'democratic' revolution. The internationally recognized government of Syria turned to its long time ally Russia for help in defeating this mostly Islamicist movement. To this day the US occupies a chunk of NE Syria against the will of the Syrian government.
I always wondered who Western countries would react if armed opposition would show on their streets. We know for US and White House when Trump's supporters stormed in. Yellow Vests in France with AK-47s, RPG-7 and Igla's? Or "moderate IRA" with ATGMs? I think it would be bloodbath because they would be terrorists and not "opposition".
@@liquidragonfu5546:: I just read (CNN) the United States' Intelligence Agency reported the figure as "315,000.00". CNN ... _any_ United States' agency ... can they be trusted ?
The phrase about consumption of ammunition, or any other supplies, double the expectation and then add a zero is so bloody standard for all wars, especially those since the start of the 20th century, that it is embarrassing to have to state it again. Operating military forces in real, actual combat eats supplies like nothing else on Earth.
Isn't an example of smaller airforces deprioritising a mission set and relying on allies is the NATO Baltic Air Policiing, or Iceland and Ireland's air defence. It's interesting to hear the dichotomy between the older instructors and the newer restructors regarding readiness and "being really good" what has changed in the last 20-30 years to get to that stage? It clearly needs reversing before the older instructors leave. It does seem to me that the numbers of many combat resources are too low and that the time taken to make deicisons and build stuff and replace them are insufficient. I wonder if F16s can be made more FOD resistent (e.g. put some sort of grid over the air intake until it's on the runway) that would allow you to prepare less area to the standard needed. I would say with the development of highly accurate balistic missiles that we're seeing in the gulf it's potentially the most worrying problem. For me the main point using F16 is that it should enable more effective SEAD with the ability to reprogram HARM in flight, if russian air defence can be degraded then life gets alot easier for the aircraft. If Britain is to play its part in a major European war in 2-3 years time we really need to pull our fingers out at the moment we're not looking at having plugged the gaps until the 2030s...
When has Britain adequately prepared for a military challenge in the last 120 years? The penny pinchers always win out and the the word "warmonger" is tossed about with abandon. With the amount of heavy armour and personnel the British Army has been pared down to they would have trouble defending a corner shop in East Grinstead.
They are, they are the one defending liberty. Post 9/11 Ukraine send troops to Afghanistan in solidarity. They questions we should ask is how to help them and defeat Russia.
@@erikeliasson9875 share Chief the third most corrupt country on the index is suddenly a bastion of freedom and democracy we should do everything we can to help them out by that you mean as much unlimited tax dollars as it's required? f no
@@erikeliasson9875 911 was an inside job so unless they're defending us from our own government they're not getting the job done they're just the money laundering operation for the military industrial complex and you're one of their rubes.
Definitely. Russia already occupies the "Transnistria" region of Moldova. The problem is that taking Ukraine and Moldova do not achieve Russia's strategic goals. They also need to take NATO territory in Romania, Poland, and the Baltics to plug the land invasion routes to Moscow. That means war with NATO and since Russia can't compete with conventional weapons, the use of tactical nukes.
Excellent discussion but, it is based on false assumption of Russian KIAs till date. Russia has fought mostly a defensive war so far. As such it is difficult to accept your proclaimation that Russians have suffered 100K plus KIA more than Ukrainian KIAs.
I believe a major problem with training them in new hardware is that they learn it okay but their superiors at home are not being trained and they force old Soviet doctrine onto the very disappointed Ukrainian soldiers. This happened when European armour was delivered. I expect it will happen with the F16s too.
The problem is trainig itself not being relevant in the situation Ukraine is in. NATO combined arms doctrine relies on many components of which Ukraine only has very few. Modern armor they were supplied (very late and in insufficient numbers) can only operate effectively under full air superiority condition which Ukraine never had and very unlikely will ever have. Without that russian helicopters can just shoot them one by one with AT missiles from safe distance like on a training range. Thoursands of km long and doesens km deep minefields that russians can constantly refresh remotely after demining don't really help with active maneuvering either. Remember what NATO instructor answered ukrainian tankers when they asked how to deal with minefields? "Just go around them!" Yeah... See, it's not ukrainians being too stupid to embrace and use western doctrine, it's the west's unwilingness to supply all the components their doctrine requires in sufficient numbers and in timely manner that makes Ukraine unable to use it.
Please, share this video to anybody who says that supporting Ukraine is too expensive and ask them to watch at least the last 10 minutes. Some of them might actually watch it.
When you really start thinking about it, even something as simple as what he said at the start, "how you take your shots" can get mind bendingly complicated. I've flown a small number single engine private planes and I'm well aware of the need to pay attention to everything going on around me. Regardless it's still difficult to imagine the task saturated environment these pilots are in from wheels up until touchdown.
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With the opening statement, i wish he would visit south carolina air national guard, eastover, sc and i feel he would be impressed. I am no longer part of national guard but SCANG has a good history. Iraq 02, 03, jordan, Afghanistan, etc
The last 5 minutes are the most important! Make a short...
to be fair, it serves those european cowards and cucks right to be steam rolled by russia in the future
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I'm a Brit
*What really scares me isn't Russia - At least not in & of itself*
*Its the gross incompetence of ALL our main Political groups*
And by"gross incompetence of ALL our major political groups" I assume you mean not only in the UK but also the USA and most of western Europe?
True, sadly true.
Yes that is it.
This is planned destruction of the West, it is not incompetence.
I believe that UKIP were extremely competent in working for the people they represented - Russian operatives. Boris Johnson managed to get a seat in the House of Lords for Lebedev, the son of a KGB agent Boris met at a party in Italy when Boris was foreign secretary.
See? Very effective in representing their people. Just not you and me.
Thanks, the Justin Bronk episode was one of the best things I've ever seen on youtube.
A genuine privilege to have Professor Bronk on the channel and hear his latest insights, many thanks both!
This guy is worth his weight in gold!
USA is.competitor vs Europe - Russia could be raw material partner for Europe...that is the real strategy😊
@@valuggel8972 Ukraine's problem is that every Western politician feels they can avoid blame if Ukraine falls but none feel they'll take the credit if it triumphs.
@@valuggel8972Russia has no interest in being a "partner" with anyone, and never has. Annexing countries is not partnering with them.
@@valuggel8972 Baloney. Europe has almost entirely weaned itself from Russian energy, and is highly committed to a net-zero future.
Thanks!
This is probably the best argument for funding the war that I've seen so far. Everyone always tries to lecture on the morality of it, when none of it is moral. People know this and those appeals come off as condescending to those who aren't complete trend zombies. Bronk's characterization of the otherwise cliche "peace through strength" doctrine is the way politicians should be framing the war. He's right about Europe, as well. There are many problems facing the continent right now, but at some point people have to see the trade-offs. You can't just pretend that you're serving the people because you're putting your budget toward the NHS while the US spends all of its money on war. You have to acknowledge that part of what allows the EU to be successful is NATO and the massive contributions that the US makes to the alliance, as well as the broader worldwide deterrence strategy employed by the US against all members of anti-Western opposition. Unlike the old Soviet Bloc, China is a thriving economy embedded into every aspect of Western industry and fueled by Western inaction. Deterrence against this sort of enemy AND the other fronts in Europe and the Middle East is not something that can be undertaken by the US alone.
Yes, but China has the so call "100 years of humiliation" anguish crap. So if they find a weakness in the western power they will use it immediately. Just to remember that there still is CCCP in power and in the Korean war in 50's they cross the border from north with 500000 troops overnight against the UN coalition . So if Russia is not beaten to learn for good this will not end well for anybody.
well said, I agree a 100% to your statement
There is a lot of that talk. Why do we need to fight China? Nobody can formulate the reasons behind it. All you need is to walk into Walmart and see where the stuff is made to realize how out of touch people who are calling for that war are.
@@ivan200804 Well, the goal is NOT to fight them... economic entanglement being one of the reasons why, as well as one of the methods of deterrence.
Uh, it's our corrupt west that tries to rob Russia and the rest of the world all the time.
It's never the other way around. Starting with the simply fact, that Europe got shit worth to conquer/rob and the USA mainly wood and coal left, so, yeah, not really.
Our 'free west' wants to be strong to dominate the world and take what they want. By the way only for our "elites" of course.
Wow Justin killed it with this one! His analysis is absolutely excellent! Please tell him thank you, for sharing his time with us, and thank you Mooch for everything you're doing. I really appreciate the straight question & answer, no sensationalism or bullspit.
If only the idiot politicians would listen to him!
Justin clearly has an amazing, perhaps unparalleled command of a plethora of facts on all aspects of military weapons systems and their geopolitical distribution on both sides of current and potential future conflicts. Most impressive is that at the end of this episode, he reveals his brilliant understanding of the operational, strategic, and international political levels of warfare, and their manifestation in the current geopolitical situation. Bravo on another virtuoso performance, Justin!
His analysis of the past and current events is mostly accurate. His analysis of the future isn't, since his personal interests are tied to the MIC
Too bad it's based on false assumptions (lies?).
Killed himself with lies and cope only ukrops have already lost lmao
Dr Bronk is detailed and clear with his data and analysis. Thanks for having him on your show occasionally. The context he provides brings clarity to a difficult situation in Ukraine. BZ
His so called facts are dreams that cannot possibly come true...
Not difficult. Existential.
@@thedfactorisgospel2
You are both myopic and ignorant of history.
@thedfactoris..-whatever ← confirmed kremlinbot.
Your favor of more war. Justin is full of crap. You should have taken to listen to him. The USA just wasted 100,000,000
A great presentation as always Ward. At the 53:30 min mark, for all our American friends who grow "tired"' of the long war. It's time to recall an excerpt from this great speech by a great leader of the world 60 years ago. These words, every single word, applies to us here now...
...from President John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address (1961)
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
This much we pledge--and more.
To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided there is little we can do--for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder."
OK boomer.
USA already paid any price. Now it’s broke. 🤷♀️ 🤷 🤷♂️
Kennedy, the idiot who took over the Vietnam war from the French? A war that was ended by..... Nixon.
My question to you would be when did Ukraine become our friend? Non Nato member, not even a member of the EU. Sure, I support that with our true allies. Canada, France, the UK to name a few. We've never cared about Ukraine back then, we don't now. The only reason we see them as friends is because we hate Russians. To that, I ask why?What has that Gov done to us since 1992? I can't think of anything.
Old allies....like Russia? Russia was an ally before the Bolsheviks....so why does everyone ignore what the west has actually done towards Russia in the last 20+ years as opposed to what Russia has actually done to anyone else. Ukraine is a thoroughly corrupt money laundering puppet state.
Count not their broken pledges as a crime.....They meant them .. how they ment them ..at the time...anon
Brilliant commentary - we live in VERY dangerous times
Yes. The key reason for this is that western media is owned by a handful of people. A simple example. How many Russian soldiers have died in the Ukraine war? US government / CNN and so on claim 390000. The leaked Pentagon papers stated it was 34000-43000. BBC and Medizona have tracked Russian media/social media and have a real number of 39400. Exact inline with the leaked Pentagon papers. Ukraine casualties are 100% censored. That is why we see 0 figures about it beside the insane Russian claims. I hope we all understand how dangerous it is when the Western media is painting up a picture that have no base in reality. In the same article US claim Russia outnumber Ukrine 3-1 on the front. According to Zelensky Ukraine have 600K active military. USA say Ukraine have 500K. Putin says that Russia have 640K troops. According to Ukraine Russia have 450k troops in Ukraine. How the F do the media /Pentagon claim 1-3? 50 countries have sent weapons to Ukraine. Almost all destroyed. And the reason for the war is not "Putler mad". It is way more complex and Ukraine will turn its back to NATO after the war since they where used as cannonfodder.
There was no apparent analysis of or comment about Russia "aging out" demographics. They simply don't have any way of replacing the elderly who are dyeing at a much faster rate than the current diminishing birth rate. By 2040 in all liklyhood they won't have a labor force to grow and produce food or have enough young men or women to manufacture weapons of war or put on a uniform and fight with anyone. America needs to seriously accelerate the weapons supply to Ukraine for at lest three more years. Very doable if we vote out the Washington D.C swamp bent on making socialists out everyone.
Well said
This all nice but part of the responsibility lies on the US's shoulders. It's like we've all forgotten about the Wolfowitz doctrine.
I won't depict Russia and Putin as the victim. But try and roll back 20 years ago. Russia was a partner, France was going to deliver stealth military ships, US airlines flew to Moscow, business would run hot between Russia and western countries. Russia was a buoyant partner, a partner nonetheless. And the situation was improving.
Also, remember the Minsk agreements, and then the steps towards Ukraine's joining Nato. How was Russia suppposed to interpret that ?
And what about the pressure upon russian-speaking populations since 2014 ? We didn't bat an eye despite documented bombardments of civilian populations by ukrainian forces.
We have done everything for that war to happen. And nothing against. In accordance with the Wolfowitz doctrine and D.C.'s cultural neoconservatism.
This fascinating interview deals with tactical issues, not political, cultural, diplomatic roots of it all.
Very interesting though 👍
From Canada: Hey, Ward - I join with the others commenting on the high quality of your output.
Thanks.
And also thank you for knowing when to let you guests express themselves without interrupting.
I second that
Greetings from Denmark
As a Canadian I can speak to your comments. Growing up in the 90s I knew many young people that thought about joining the Forces, but when you talked to people in uniform back then (and maybe still) they were almost always unhappy due to uneven training and terrible kit, it really dissuaded lots of us from joining.
When the PM used the army in old age homes during COVID it really hurt morale and a lot of people quit.
I was in the US Army from 04-08. Similarly, we had lots of issues with gear. My weapon would jam due to a mechanical failure at least once per training exercise, including once in combat in Iraq. The ACU camo we were given didn't match the terrain. Spare parts for vehicles and weapons were unheard of, so we stole them from units. That's not to mention all the blame we endured from senior enlisted and officers for s😂t we had no control over. I'm telling my kids not to do it, which is sad because I've had relatives in nearly EVERY major war going neck to the revolution.
@@willowtree5267a family of government meat. Something to be proud of for some people I guess.
@rmack9226
May want to check that cynicism. Nearly every woman I've dated (or know) find it extremely unattractive.
@@Jon.A.Scholt cool story. Cope with your worship of the state, and being sent to war to die frivolously by unserious former teachers, lawyers and real estate agent MPs however you need to brah.
@rmack9226 Statements from someone who clearly dreams of licking foreign boots
Sensational quality content. Thx @WardCarroll for making this available. Living in Austria, you know something is changeing in Europe when 2/3 of the austrians think it is a good idea to spend more money for our armed forces. We have crippled our defensive military capabilities to a point that are a joke in the last decades. Based on this turn around I hope that Justin's scenario of a weak Europe will not become reality.
I looked it up and you're right, 69 percent support the recent increase in military spending and 57 percent want to spend even more. When I was still living in Austria, there was a sense of pride that we don't waste money on the military
It’s been a multi decade campaign by Russia to demoralise the west and cause us to be indecisive. You can see it in all aspects of us not standing up for what is important to us.
I admire the pacifism, but disarmament in the modern system leads to MORE violence not less. Paradoxically.
I would be happier if countries who choose to do such a thing still keep an aspect of their force top notch. Just having great mountain infantry can be valuable, Even if the rest sucks, with the Alliance.
@RobinTheBot within which alliance?
Weak Europe is already a reality. Exceptions are only England and Poland.
Thanks
Thanks for the support!
The words of Dr. Bronk needs to be heard across the free world, in the defense of Ukraine!
Please share this everyone!
NO Both Ward and Bronk are straight out.
@@ScrappyXFLstraight out what?
@@zd1322I’m pretty sure crappy has all but said, “I don’t agree with Dr. Bronk or Ward.”
Then go fight, and go save "democracy"!
@@JoeyJoJoJr0 Most all of the western volunteer fighters have said "f' this" at this point in time. 😂 Ukraine is recruiting women for the meat grinder now 🤷♂
Justin's eloquent speaking, knowledge, experience and credibility are impressive. This video gives me something that I can share to politicians here in the us. My letters to them don't carry much weight even if I've been saying basically, exactly what Justin is saying. People don't respond to the message, they respond to the messenger.
Thank you for this tremendous asset that I can use to influence people in the right direction!
@@The_ZeroLine Yes, because unfortunately most politicians (globally) only look to the weekly and monthly polls and just keeping their HUGE $$$$ for doing next to nothing.
Dreams not actual facts...
I like the young Doctor because, he doesn't sound like a pompous ass.
@@xxyyzzplants131You didn't finish your comment...It should have read "I like the young Doctor because, he doesn't sound like (the) pompous ass that he is...!"
How can Justin be smart and not know that Ukraine has exhausted: money from most NATO countries, military equipment from most NATO countries, $$$ from U.S. taxpayers, military equipment from the DOD in un-United States...
The war is over...Let that sink in...Russia is and has been slowly winning by draining the U.S. of $$$ and weapons along with all the other NATO countries...It has become an almot won war of attrition...
Someone want to guess if Justin's so smart, he is completely unaware that Putin is not willing to end the war in Ukraine until he can be assured that Ukraine will come to be a very NEUTRAL country and it's very likely he will finish the war off before December of 2024.
Then he will likely be dealing with a U.S. President that is actually alive and can hopefully think straight about the new world order that will have a very different "pecking order"...!
I could listen to you guys talk all day. Awesome episode
He's out of touch, though...😅
Im glad this guy is on our side.
I doubt the Russians or PRChas anything or anyone like this.
Yeah, smart, but watch what happens when you feed incorrect data into an industrial robot. 🤖
That's what's happening here. 😮
As Ukrainian I express gratitute for you to put this conversation on public. We are really heavily dependent on Western support not only to win but to survive either.
@@marvinadams4784 You can do way better - hop on a plane and go there in the trenches. I can assure you that they will not refuse you joining the AFU.
Probably shouldn't have made a national leader out of a clown.
You always dependent on someone it is your specialization. Before 2014 you begged for the discounts for gas from Russia never paying your previos bills saying that we are brotherhood states and Russia can't leave Ukraine without support. For the west it is just a new story but we saw it for years.
@RealOolonColluphid Well, you can start by sending yourself to Ukraine. They will welcome you and you will get a first class ride to the trenches.
@@doublehelix7880 Nice try Ivan. So nobody can express support for a country being attacked without going there himself. Send yourself to Russia then, if you're not already there.
As a lifelong student of these types of political and military issues for over 45 years (when I was a cadet at uni, as a NATO fighter pilot and as a strategic consultant), everything that Justin and Ward say here ticks all the necessary boxes and stacks up logically for me. Western governments need to act accordingly, and keep doing so for as long as it takes.
Do you seriously think that most, if any, of our politicians are serious or Intelligent at anything (besides lining their pockets, and some can't even do that).
Really? What war has the US fought since 1945 that has not been a disaster for all involved?
How much are these guys getting paid by Military-Congressional Industrial Complex and Intel agency criminals.
What WAS purpose of NATO?
Have we kept our commitments to any agreements?
Y'all have the blood of 500,000+ Ukrainians on your hands.
War mongering Brit fool and according to Ward we just wasted another $100,000,000
@@fredrickcombs1629for some strange reasons, Brits are afraid that if Ukraine fells, Putin will soon role tanks towards them. I mean, it is obvious, Putin want London City and British tea. And for king Charles to point him as PM of UK. And that makes Brits very, very afraid.😂
It's amazing that we can get more information and honest discussion from a UA-cam video than all the parliament's and senate's combined
I don’t, they’ve proven they don’t know anything consistently over the past decades.
@@c1ph3rpunk so negative. It’s easy to criticize from the outside looking in
It’s proven that parliament ‘s and Senate’s are like a delusional circus.
I always wonder what the politicians really know vs like to know and share.
I could literally listen to stuff like this the entire day!
Those Rafales in the Mach Loop look beautiful; the French know how to make a beautiful aircraft. The single seat Mirage 2000 is still my all time favorite.
Expensive...
Yes but we can never trust them.
have the French ever asked you to trust them? @@1346crecy
What we are learning from witnessing the Russo-Ukraine war is in several ways a replay of World War I. Specifically, weapons technology has outstripped the lingering tactics of a previous era, resulting in offensive operations becoming too costly to sustain long enough to make decisive gains.
In that war, offensive tactics consisted mainly of massed infantry formations charging enemy lines. These Napoleonic era tactics might've worked as late as the Franco-Prussian War, but by 1914 the prevalence of machine guns, bolt-action rifles, and improved long-range artillery made these massed infantry assaults ineffective and prohibitively bloody.
Today, 20th century tactics for mechanized warfare are being outstripped by 21st century weapons technology. In the budding age of drone warfare, the Cold War adage of "If it can be seen, it can be hit, and if it can be hit it can be killed" is true more than ever. Mass up for an armored offensive, and it won't take long before you are discovered and any element of surprise is gone.
Another consideration is that what was once a capability enjoyed largely by America alone - the ability to quickly coordinate massed air and artillery fire on a target - is now something that more nations have, including the Russians and the Ukrainians. Again, once you break cover to go on the attack, you'll not only soon be seen but all kinds of indirect fire will soon be coming down on you.
Is it any surprise that neither side in this conflict can gain an advantage using the tactics of their grandfathers in an age of constant surveillance and precision guided munitions?
Is it any surprise that as a result, to survive both sides have gone to ground? Or that they are expending artillery ammunition at phenomenal rates to just pound away at each other's trench lines?
I hope that NATO planners are realizing that we need to come up with a totally new way of warfighting, particularly land and air warfare, that will not rely on large-scale mechanized assaults into the teeth of prepared defenses. There's no way that Western populations will put up with the kind of go-nowhere slaughter that's happening in the Ukraine right now.
Good point but in an actual war all space surveillance would be targeted (because America relies on it) and the fog of war would be much thicker, Ukraine is a unique situation.
There hasnt been any slaughtering going on in ukraine in the last year because there hasnt been any fighting for nearly 12 months lol
The West has the capability to move forward. In WW1 both sides were throwing all they had at the front and were getting nowhere. Ukraine has been trickle fed weapons. This is not the same as either WW.
@@manlystyleunder50 There's been a lot of fighting, it just hasn't moved any lines on maps!
Yes, but the fact that Ukraine hasn’t been able to gain much ground is because the Western alliance hasn’t provided Ukraine with enough tools to push Russian forces back. If the full weight of NATO forces were employed, there’s no doubt that Russia would be pushed back to the 1991 border.
Dr. Bronk’s summary on why defense investments are important now rather than in a year is perfect.
By and large it is happening here in the U.S. via investments by congress in our Depot Upgrades/expansion activity.
Maybe if the US stopped starting Wars in the First Place ?
The fact that Europe as a whole has not made the investments needed to increase artillery shells by now is bordering on criminal.
It wasn't by accident that of all the possible realms the war was pivoted to where the volume of dumb shells is the key deciding factor. The Russians knew they had the fundamental advantage there. And had it been some other resource, we'd be talking abt that thing now not the shells. Like in the Cuban Missile Crisis, that resource was the fidelity of control over the nuke. Khrustchev had military/party/kgb i.e. triply redundant hierarchy ensuring he was heard/understood/followed, at speed and nuance. Kennedy just had the military & they 2nd guessed / didn't trust each other. That enabled Khrustchev to dance that much closer to the nuclear edge. Note how that engagenent's conventional metrics (proximity to home base, relative force scale & structure, technological superiority, etc) were all rendered moot - the only thing that'd mattered was who can walk closer to the edge of nuclear abyss without falling over. That's what got the Jupiters out if Turkey w/o a replacement. Anyway, back to shells.
Russia's advantage in bumb shells is fundamental because such shells are a relatively simple, low-margin, specialized item. I.e. in a free market driven economy, it's a pretty terrible investment to expand their production catering to peak demand.
@@AlexKarasev The LOX/kerosene fuelled Jupiters and Atlases were as obsolete in 1962 as the R-7. The US had Titans and Minutemen coming online, and Polaris in the subs, so IRBMS like Jupiters and Thors in Turkey did not need to be replaced.
@@awuma not sure if your reply is sarcasm or serious so I'll respond in the same deadpan manner. When comparing deterrent (or first strike) value of a given position, flight time is the #1 - nay - #0 priority. Moscow was 8 minutes from Turkey, and nothing was stopping newer missiles to eventually replace the obsolete Jupiters except the promise made in exchange for the Soviets getting theirs out of Cuba (6min flight time to DC).
But this is a side branch from the main point - he who manages to pivot the fighting to their chosen dimension, wins. Regardless of the power imbalance in other realms.
Such realms could be time, land, reputation, proximity, blood, treasure, objectivity, taste, strength, speed, range, altitude, heat, cold, and so on. Have you seen the movie Ford vs Ferrari? That race was about breaks. These things are often counter-intuitive.
For US exceptionalists, all is intuitive: We're the best, all our stuff is the best, and we must rule the world.
Justin’s perspective just changed my mind about supporting Ukraine.
Not because of any one side is right or wrong but deterring Russia from thinking twice about going to war with us.
Why would Russia WANT to go to war with your country? Do you WANT to go to war with them? And if so, why? If you're American, you are already in 1st place for "Countries Russia DOES NOT want to go to war with." If you belong to a NATO country, the same protections are afforded to you by proxy. Our support for the corrupt Zelensky regime is DRIVING hostility for the west, not improving our security or "making Russia think twice"
Well I know the side that didn't invade anybody isn't wrong so Russias wrong.
Correct. Seems a hell of a lot of politicians cannot understand this.
but the problem is does Ukraine have the menpower. to fight long war. and can they outlast Russian. in terms of menpower and as well as operational capacity. if they dont detteriorate then something is really wrong with Russian army.
Who's "us"? As long as you don't attack Russia and don't creep on their borders and place troops there, you don't need to worry about war with them. Because that's what this is about: your "us" has been trying to march towards Russia's borders, and put its troops and weapons at Russia's borders, and Russia is putting a stop to it in Ukraine now.
People need to listen to this man. Many thanks for interviewing Dr. Bronk.
Idiots like Marjorie Traitor Greene should listen to this.
Dr. Bronk is one of the very few people, who actually know what they're talking about and are able to convey their take on the situation in crystal clear terms. If we do let Russia and China get their way now, we're risking a hot world war with unimaginable consequences.
Really?
+ Iran, and a long list of other evil actors (Hamas, Hesbollah, Syria, Taliban; Venezuela) and so on
we have to keep these morons at a distance. Borders closed down, and so on.
Why do we have daily flights e.g. from Tehran to Munich? There should be *0* flights from Iran into the whole EU.
@@kgb-files9260 yes, really.
I have a 9 year old daughter. In 10 years time when we are fighting a war against China, Russia, Iran and North Korea and she gets her draft notice, she's going to say to me "Why didn't you guys sort this?"
it is enough not to provoke Russia and China and then there will be no global wars
This is another exceptional, highly articulate analysis from Dr Justin Bronk. It's very rare to get insights of this breadth and depth, with no hesitation or wasted words... on any topic, let alone two simultaneous hot wars, two strategic politico-military challenges and an uncertain political climate on two continents. Thank you, Ward & Justin.
You the paid follower or Ward's second account. We just wasted another $100.000.000. According to USA MSM Ukraine should have already "liberated" Luhanks and Donetsks. Justin what a great guy he wants to Built up our Economy with more WAR INDUSTRY. Justin is a little WAR MONGERING British "cigarette".
More articulate than yourself with your non-British accent? The guy is deluded and brainwashed actually but maybe you like that, hence the countless hours of watching this utter trash. 🤓 It's better to watch Star Wars.
Total nonsense actually.
Natobots: "Russia can't take one village in ukraine ha ha"
Also Natobots: "Russia is going to attack entire world next year!"
Delusional and delirious in both cases.
@@bdleo300Nice try, Ivan. How many rubbles you get for that comment?
Russkibots: Russia just wants peace and security from evil imperialist NATO.
Also russkibots: We would never invade NATO because we can't beat the whole world, we only want to attack helpless countries. How crazy of you evil natobots to prepare for Russian invasion!
Love coming to class whenever Professor Bronk is on the ticket
The kind of information an informed electorate needs to know.
Yes, if they were to present this case, the truth, then the USA would be united on the responsibility to defend Europe and Europe would be defending Ukraine
@@Greg-yu4ij Ah, yes, the myth of it being "Russia bad, Ukraine good" instead of what it really is: "Russia bad, Ukraine also bad." Or are we going to just gloss over how Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, as well as one filled with National Socialist admirers, an inconvenient fact even the New York Times had to admit.
@@Greg-yu4ijpropaganda
@@chesterhiggens Which part specifically? What was inaccurate or non-fact based?
@@chesterhiggens Ivan, run from your troll factory before a stormshadow comes knocking...
Such a knowledgeable and articulate source of info. What a waste war is.
I hope lots of people with any concern for Ukraine get to see this as soon as possible. Please pass it around.
concern with ukraine is concern for lockheed martin and blackrock profits
the military age men of ukraine are all already dead. not much left to be concerned about there. thats from time magazine who said the "average age of ukr soldiers is 46"
no im not russian
no im not a communist
im just the person telling you the truth. this has been known for 2 years. endless war and debt only benefits the banks.
@@SabbaticusRex Bronk makes the explicit point that relaxing the defense of Ukraine now will only give the Orcs time to better prepare for their next assaults. Did you miss Bronk's point entirely?
@@SabbaticusRex pushing EU against Russia as much possible is exactly in US interest, to avoid what from US perspective is the sum of all fears: a strong EU/Russia partnership which could challenge US world dominance
@vincenzoturco5249 Do you prefer the dominance of the Russians?
@vincenzoturco5249 Don't you see the danger in the fusion of brains/education/technology with a stupid brutal huge herd that will follow any order?
As a Canadian I’m greatly disappointed with our countries inability to procure military equipment in a sane, orderly manner. The F35 debacle is the most recent example. But it’s been the same for helicopters, ships, and basic equipment. Everything becomes a political football, so nothing gets done. Who wants to work in that kind of environment?
One man’s opinion.
That is 100% on the liberal party. They cancel contracts that the conservatives sign and then end up paying more later or buying junk subs, etc. Trudeau and this liberal party are more obsessed with making everyone call males women than they are of Canada having a competent military and defence strategy.
The Liberals have committed a bunch of long term capital funding, which is essentially them kicking the can down the road to another finance minister to actually spend in a future budget.
There's also a ton of politcal games with procurement that relate to MPs wanting to buy votes by making sure certain firms get government contracts that please the right stakeholders within their ridings. Our military is in an excessively sorry state across the board and it is going to take a really vociferous effort to make it clear to the public why we need to invest a lot more money into the military.
Who poses any actual threat to Canada? Or are you just lamenting that we aren't contributing enough to the US empire's war machine?
One F35 or 115000 drone. If you have air defense, the drones are way better. BTW. Canada should have bought Gripen. 1/7 the cost and smaller radar cross-section then SU57.
I remember being a teenager in the 90s during the whole Sea King clusterfuck, what a mess. This country needs a functioning military procurement process and we need it 30 years ago FFS.
And my summary of the report: It's right on target. A brilliant perspective on the real world.
Good point about FOD clearance. Which will involve both a lot of work and a cultural shift. The Soviets were infamous for using pretty shoddy concrete for airfields.
Luxury vs practicality in war, where the norm can turn into unattainable luxuries overnight. Such a clown show this was.
The Great Big Problem WRT security in Europe is that it's been nearly 35 years since they felt threatened...meaning the entire current political establishment treats the subject as a distraction, at best as an industrial base opportunity.
Not just Europe; the USA is the same and for much longer.
How do we get Justin to hammer these realities into the thick skulls of Western governments ? He puts it so clearly it's impossible to miss unless you are dimwitted to the extreme or simply stupid enough not to want to hear the reality. Thanks Justin.
VERY good question.
Unfortunately I think you’ve just described most of our leaders 😟
They need to wake up Ukraine is already suffering with attention being centred on Israel at the moment.
Well said
@@eozeL68Israel doesn’t need the same support Ukraine does. It’s mainly using air power not 155. The idea that Ukraine is just being used as a test ground is patently absurd as almost everything sent is old and already battle tested. Even Stormshadow, which is 20 years old and was already the subject of a update/replacement program, has seen use in Lybia and the Gulf.
As it stands Ukraine defeating Russia is way more important than supporting Israel in a police action. Providing other Arab countries stay out of it. Even Iran has stated Hamas will not get direct support.
The only danger is if Israel cause so many civilian casualties that the Arab countries feel they can’t just watch. But that’s why the carriers are there. I don’t see them jumping in to what they consider is a crises of Hamas own making.
@marknicholson2281 Ukraine will never defeat Russia no matter how much Nato tries. Its like when you hear people saying oh Germany lost the war because of the winter and so on, the actual truth is Germany would never have won against the Soviet Union no matter what they did. It is just a superior country when it comes to military mobilisation and production. They are a very bad choice of enemy for anyone to have. The worst. A war against them on their turf is unwinnable. The good thing with them though is they never go to other people's turf.
I listen to roughly 10 to 12 hours a day 6 days a week of UA-cam news content and have followed the Ukraine war in great detail. This was the single most informative video I have consumed and all that time. Many thanks!
Try 'the new Atlas' if you want something more accurate.
After spending so much time on UA-cam, btw what's your job description?, you should have a more clear view on what's actually happening in UA. Most probably you have chosen to listen to only one side of the conflict, otherwise you wouldn't have classified this video as "the single most informative video". Prime example that this is not the case is that he claims that the number of downed RU planes provided by UA is way off and then taking the rest of the data provided by UA on face value and using them for his analysis.
@@mikek.1761If I remember correctly, he only discussed two of the data points: casualties and aircraft losses. He generally agreed with one and disagreed with the other, spending some time discussing why for each. Maybe I overlooked it, but I don't remember him giving any credit or doubt to any other figure on that "box score".
@@sickboy8682 Ah yes, the New Atlas", by pro-CCP and pro-Kremlim conspiracy blogger Tony Cartalucci. Great source to decimate your IQ.
Its strange that in one qualifiable area, jets, we know Ukraine is massively lying, but we are willing to believe them in casualties inflicted.
it's a sort of strategy...
@@buravan1512Yeah, a genocidal one!
I work as an engineer in the defense industry and right now my employer is hiring pretty much anyone with a relevant bachelor’s engineering degree and a clean criminal record because we simply need more engineers. It’s not a bad problem to have, especially since many other sectors of the economy (particularly tech) are hard to get entry level jobs in, and the local economy gets a big boost too.
Not a problem the Russians or Chinese have is it.
And all just for the destruction of Ukraine, the Ukrainian nation, 6 million Ukrainian refugees, 200,000+ Ukraine KIA, plus wounded, widows, and orphans. 60,000 Russian KIA, plus wounded, widows, and orphans. Destroying Germany's economy. Disabled people in Europe who need an electric wheel chair not being able to afford to charge them.
US Defense Industries and US Oil companies posted record profits in 2022. Does anyone doubt the US Military Industrial Petroleum Complex, US Congress, EU and NATO leaders don't understand their own 'business model' how it works and how to profit. It couldn't be more simple.
Always Justins’ perspective is enlightening and refreshingly accurate and insightful. The cost of peace is high but worth every penny
As Justin points out twice in this interview, the cost of deterrent military power is a pittance in comparison with the human and economic costs of an undeterred war.
The cost of weapons systems and services goes into the sand, but the profit part into the pockets of the right folks. To halt such investment is to tell for-profit defense enterprises to suspend operations, let their investors get margin calls, and lose core skills.
This is why the Wolfowitz Doctrine was adopted in 1992. You can't just stop the music.
@@AlexKarasevok bot. Margin calls? Lol
@@zd1322 sophisticated investors have access to cheap capital and while an average reader of this can invest on margin (close to 1:1 leverage, using investment itself as the collateral), leverages of 5:1 or greater have been available to the sophisticated investors. At 5:1 leverage, a 20% drop in the investment wipes you out. How much was the drop in some of the Cold War era investments that the general public knows as the "Peace Dividend"? They couldn't kill that thing fast enough.
Amazingly frank from Justin, If only he was our PM here in the UK, we may get something done.
Not PM - he would be distracted by all the other crap.. He needs to be Minister of Defence.
Echoes of Chamberlin’s “Piece in our time” months later Poland is split in half and the Blitz rolls through France… there’s some real stupidity in the US congress displayed.
How so?
This is one of the most compelling videos I’ve seen in a long time. Dr. Justin Bronk’s knowledge and experience are deep and his views are on point. This video should be required watching for all Americans. If China decides to attempt to invade Taiwan with all this going on, a potential WW III could be in the balance. I fear our young people aren’t prepared for what that would mean for us to ensure the survival of the American way of life as we’ve come to know it. Fantastic interview, Mooch.
If you don't want WW3, then just don't start it...
Why do you care about Taiwan as an American, have you ever thought about that? Is the US anywhere near Taiwan?
Maybe Its the US that should stop maintaining aggressive vassal states with the sole purpose of pissing off its geopolitical rivals.
"Russia is a military powerhouse that poses an existential threat to the other countries of Europe."
"Russia is bogged down in Ukraine, its military disorganized and struggling to be effective."
PICK ONE. Because both cannot be true.
Actually, it’s neither. Russia has what it wants in Ukraine and poses no threat to other countries in Europe.
🎚🇺🇸 *Historically it took the US roughly 3-4 years to ramp up into WWII.*
*Russia doesn't have as far to go, but isn't transitioned yet.*
*No leftist oriented government views people as other than a commodity to be manipulated, used, and disposed of by the state.*
*Russian weapons tech isn't caught up, but it does maintain what is still considered the largest nuclear weapons stockpile in the world, and has been renewing its nuclear weapons stockpile, and has been steadily overhalling it's Strategic Rocket Forces do have far more accurate missile systems today than in the 1980's to mid 1990's. That is when it all began to quietly change.*
Maybe read some history. Russia's a slow learner that doesn't care much about losing masses of lives and equipment so long as they ultimately achieve victory. The Soviets lost every battle against Germany for a year at the start of the war, lost tons of territory including Kyiv and most of modern day Ukraine and 21 Million people overall during WW2. But eventually recovered to kick Hitler's ass
@@jbc-3975 Soviet Union was much bigger and more capable than modern day Russia. And the only reason they didn't lose to Germany was Land Lease Act that provided them with the critical resources and materiel they needed, some of which they just couldn't get on their own.
1st off you're confusing pre and post-war Soviet Union, but that doesn't change the fact that they endured 21 million dead and a years worth of horrible defeats but kept coming back for more. The fact that the US supplied some (I repeat 'some') of the equipment and weaponry is irrelevant to the point at issue - which is about the Russian public's seeming willingness to accept casualties that would cause Western countries to withdraw/ seek a negotiated settlement or capitulate. @@oberonmeister
I watch any channel Justin speaks on. He's a boss.
This is incredibly sobering and I’m grateful to you both for creating a way for me to understand what’s going on.
It really was a good episode. We sit in the comfort of distance, while a very brutal struggle is going on.
Very sobering indeed. The situation is going rapidly in a terrible direction both militarily and politically.
If you read these dreams 20 times over they will never become reality...You are living in a dream cult...American has not won a war since WWII with Japan...!
5-6 years to train a pilot, dozens if not hundreds of millions for a plane, maintenance and training and then one rocket puts an end to all that in seconds. This model is unsustainable in a large scale conflict. Especially in a world of increasingly capable drones. The era of super expensive planes and flight jockeys is ending.
I agree that low cost and unmanned weapons systems are going to change the calculus quite a bit, but to say "The era of super expensive planes and flight jockeys is ending" is not too different then the stance in the 50's that the US Navy wasn't needed anymore because US Airforce super bombers would fight the next war. That didn't pan out at all. We love to push the pendulum to extremes not realizing that somewhere in the middle is reality most of the time.
To state the minimum, as well as the obvious, excellent analysis by Dr. Bronk
I truly believe that f16 will make no difference in this war. I certainly don't want Ukraine to lose, but its impossible to see how this changes things enough to win this.
It will make difference. It will give ability to Ukrainians to harass Russians way they couldn't before, so it will prolong the war even further. Also, it's far convenient for Western countries to just send air deployed weapons from then on, without need to modify ex Soviet planes, like they've been doing so far.
I agree, the only thing that will make them win is a renewed industrial capacity in the West. We have allowed ourselves to grow weak.
@@Dembilaja "Prolong the war" == "Prevent genocidal occupation and re-colonization"?
Of course, the F-16 will make zero difference in this war of attrition.
@@Dembilaja someone harassing poor ruzzkie again😢
Another excellent video, I like your style of commentary as well. I would be really interested in your take on the taking of the cargo ship in the Red sea.
Which cargo ship, and taken by whom? I can't remember coverage of that? Probably my inattention...
Thanks Ward, Justin is a phenomenal resource. Your’s is always genuine and direct reporting. Thank you
This is freaking brilliant analysis by Justin. We need to get the word out on this here in the U.S. Stopping support for Ukraine should NOT be on the table. We should be INCREASING it.
Yes, odd isn’t it that so many of the GOP Congress that seems to be weirdly Moscow-friendly also want to end aid to Ukraine.
Go fight for them, they lack manpower so maybe you could act instead of wasting and destroying the economy ?
Why?
Because we're the only ones allowed to destroy countries that did nothing to us?
Yeah push in
Lol
This should be a requirement for Congress to watch.
Who or what should I believe? I've listened to several podcasts featuring former intelligence agents and military men such as Doug MacGregor, Andrei Mortyanov, Larry Johnson, Scott Ritter, Larry Wilkenson and Jeffery Sachs just to name a few. They all paint quite a different picture with the war in Ukraine. They assert as many as 700,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed compared to about 60,000 Russian soldiers killed. They all have impressive knowledge of world history, European history, military history. Ukraine at some point in the beginning wanted to enter negotiations with Russia and England's Boris Johnson put the kibosh on that at the behest of the United States. Regardless of what you may think of our involvement with other countries you have to look at our country and its current status. We're currently paying over 1 trillion dollars per year in interest payments on debt that can never be repaid. That combined with our current political and military state I don't think we are going to fare well in the years ahead. The middle east is more powerful and much stronger that it was back in 1991 or 2001. Quite sad for us if you ask me. And, it scares the hell out of me.
Believe MacGregor and Scott Ritter and other clear thinking minds who knew from the start that it was ridiculous to dream of Ukraine having any kind of chance of victory.
Ritter's a convicted sex offender and both are pissed off that they were drummed out of the military. They're also both on Putin's payroll - as I'm guessing are you - assuming you're not a Bot@@blackshoe2000
@@brodieboy3 Man, if you look at the comment by time, it's incredible how many Russian bots/payed actors there are. You can tell their point doesn't even make logical sense, instead it's just trying to create short term exaggerated psychological effects to the public as a tactic
Ritter is a pedophile who wants to see the US collapse because he was convicted. MacGregor is just an idiot that can't count
*Dude... you forgot that you will soon be asked for your ancestors who destroyed 20 million indigenous people of North America!*
Thanks for keeping Ukraine in the news stream...supporting Ukraine definately having a good impact on our "economy" and our readiness (war goods production). Would love to hear same discussion from Paco perspective...impact on our military readiness and capabilities.
Hopefully it’s a wake up call for the dangers of “just in time” inventory for defense needs.
He keeps talking about us pumping all that money into our own factories making munitions to send to Ukraine: as if it's a "good thing". But it's really just another source of bottomless money printing and continued inflation that is hung on the shoulders of every US citizen.. and we feel it every day at the pump, at the grocery store and the mortgage payment, etc. I can understand the idea of fighting the war front over there so we don't have to fight it here.. but we can't just pretend that all this money printing is beneficial to our economy- because ultimately it is just a form of tax on the American people and it is accelerating all the time. Inflation will be the downfall of the dollar and the fall of our great empire because those who create the money have blind eyes to it's consequences.
@@calholli It does not need to rest on ordinary citizens. A historically massive tax adjustment was provided at the top end of the tax spectrum in the previous administration which has driven us deep into deficit and we now argue about funding basic services for regular folks. Those beneficiaries are exactly the kinds of people most likely to benefit from Ukrainian control of proven Black Sea oil and gas. If you want to look for someone to actually fund aid to Ukraine, it's them. The "great again" part becomes a real thing by returning to the previously great-for-marginal-working-folks tax brackets.
@@calholliwe have been disposing our trash basically and getting russian kills with it.
Thank God you have no say.
You think the economy is like a household or business account.
@inscrutianaII seems like an easy solution and in general I'm not oppossed to it. However I think it can be a little more complicated than just raising taxes on places like Amazon and the Uber rich. You have to consider that many have the option to simply move their funds offshore, move their businesses out of the US etc. Doesn't matter if you have higher tax rates if noone pays them in the end.
This video should be mandatory viewing for every member of congress, especially the last 9 minutes.
Fear fear fear fear fear fear fear. Always remember. Be afraid.
Yet another great interview by Cmdr. Carroll with Dr. Bronk. Well done gentlemen.
Justin speaks, we listen.
The cost for the U.S. to provide resources is a pittance compared to what a European war if they do not defeat Russia.
Russia will not be defeated by the Ukraine. It’s unfortunate but it’s the reality of the situation
"The enemy has made that decision for you." Actually no. NATO made that decision back in the 90's when a decision was made to renege on the agreement not to expand NATO. The ongoing fight in Ukraine is essentially a doubling down on that mistake making any prospect of a negotiated settlement very remote.
That was with USSR ... you guys always kiss Russia a..
That”s a Russian lie and no document has been provided to support. But lets”s assume it was true then Russia would have the right to invade a soveiregn country?
(1) "Dictators and Bullies" are those who want to station nuclear warheads in Ukraine right beside Russia.
(2) "Dictators and Bullies" are those who would vandalize and blow up the two Nord Stream pipelines.
(3) Was not Crimea conquered by Catherine the Great of Russia in the 1800's ?
(If Ukraine wanted to keep Khrushchev's gift of Crimea, they needed to stay in USSR.
(4) The Minsk agreement was signed by Ukraine, Russia, OSCE, brokered by France.
Thank you for these long chats, very informative.
Thank you Justin. Glad you’re there for us. Hope everyone is listening.
This young mans knowledge is amazing. Someone in the American government needs to listen up.
🙏🏾💪🏾🙏🏾💪🏾
Imagine if the West allowed Zelensky to negotiate peace in March 2022. Imagine if we never enacted the 2013 Ukranian coup at all.
Crimea would still be Ukranian. Unbelieveable, right? And to think we threw it away.
Nobody talk about that. The truth is that, some western countries wanted this war. As a result of this desire to lead proxy war with Russia,they annihilated Ukraine.
But it wouldn't be a US puppet-state and that's the issue. The US wants Russia to be weak and impotent at all costs, that's what this war is all about
This guy knows his airplanes but not much else. Unfortunately the politicians are no different. This conflict could have been avoided easily.
Indeed. The west has been trying to destroy Russia for 400 years and counting across 6 different wars. A different solution to deal with Russia long term is needed.
wrong, it was inevitable since 91
@@ilya_anatolychwhy was it inevitable ?
@@binks3371Thanks to Western elites that wanted the destruction of Russia using Ukrain as a Proxy.
Because Murica
Excellent analysis
Another great interview with Dr. Bronk!
F-18 makes sense too, honestly better than Viper for rough field operations. Just not as many available on the market.
I'm a bit puzzled the F-18 has not been mentioned more. It's more rugged than the F-16. But, as Ward and Justin have previously noted, the Gripen would be best. The problem would be supply. But aren't there lots of F-18 Classics sitting at Davis-Monthan? Considering that the Ukrainians are flying resuscitated museum pieces and wrecks, the F-18's could be useful.
@@awuma There are some early versions of the F-18 in Australia, Canada, and elsewhere, slated for replacement by F-35’s… My guess is that it’s been hard enough getting one training program going, let alone two. But as far as I’m concerned, all this logistics should have started two years ago
The guy's history is wrong too. Chechenia was part of the Russian Federation but Russia pulled out its military for five years 94-99, not a 'six month ceasefire'. In that time the territory because essentially lawless and served as a springboard for terror into surrounding areas and more ethnically Russian parts of the Federation.
There was no 'six month ceasefire' or any ceasefire in the Georgia-Russian war either. Instead Georgia attacked two areas that had gained autonomy way back at the breakup of the Soviet Union (and had been autonomous even in Soviet times), and that attack included attacks on the Russian peacekeepers in the area. Russia invaded and advanced to about 40 km from Tblisi, at which time peace talks were held and Russia withdrew. It gained nothing and the status quo ante was restored. Georgia has gradually returned to more normal relations with the Russian Federation...as befits a country that has tens of thousands of its citizens working in Russia.
In Syria it was the Western powers and Turkey that fomented a supposed 'democratic' revolution. The internationally recognized government of Syria turned to its long time ally Russia for help in defeating this mostly Islamicist movement. To this day the US occupies a chunk of NE Syria against the will of the Syrian government.
I always wondered who Western countries would react if armed opposition would show on their streets.
We know for US and White House when Trump's supporters stormed in. Yellow Vests in France with AK-47s, RPG-7 and Igla's? Or "moderate IRA" with ATGMs? I think it would be bloodbath because they would be terrorists and not "opposition".
This analysis should be required watching, unfortunately, for every politician of the G20.
I always look forward to the Justin interviews. 👍👍
Very insightful. Thank you.
Excellent episode. Thank you
Why didn't you mention the fact that the US/NATO started the Ukraine conflict back in 2014 ?
"Ukraine good, Russia bad," is the dumbed down logic, Ward. You're smart enough and experienced enough to know it's more complicated than that.
Lol apparently not also where is the proof of these 300,000 Russia casualties? Oh yeah Ukraine told us lol
Haha l had to laugh at that. They'd have no army left if that were the case. @@liquidragonfu5546
@@liquidragonfu5546:: I just read (CNN) the United States' Intelligence Agency reported the figure as "315,000.00".
CNN ... _any_ United States' agency ... can they be trusted ?
@@liquidragonfu5546::
I just read (CNN) that the United States' Intelligence Agency reported 315,000.00 Russian casualties.
@@liquidragonfu5546::
The United States' Intelligence Agency has reported 315,000.00 Russian casualties according to CNN.
The phrase about consumption of ammunition, or any other supplies, double the expectation and then add a zero is so bloody standard for all wars, especially those since the start of the 20th century, that it is embarrassing to have to state it again. Operating military forces in real, actual combat eats supplies like nothing else on Earth.
Isn't an example of smaller airforces deprioritising a mission set and relying on allies is the NATO Baltic Air Policiing, or Iceland and Ireland's air defence.
It's interesting to hear the dichotomy between the older instructors and the newer restructors regarding readiness and "being really good" what has changed in the last 20-30 years to get to that stage? It clearly needs reversing before the older instructors leave.
It does seem to me that the numbers of many combat resources are too low and that the time taken to make deicisons and build stuff and replace them are insufficient.
I wonder if F16s can be made more FOD resistent (e.g. put some sort of grid over the air intake until it's on the runway) that would allow you to prepare less area to the standard needed. I would say with the development of highly accurate balistic missiles that we're seeing in the gulf it's potentially the most worrying problem.
For me the main point using F16 is that it should enable more effective SEAD with the ability to reprogram HARM in flight, if russian air defence can be degraded then life gets alot easier for the aircraft.
If Britain is to play its part in a major European war in 2-3 years time we really need to pull our fingers out at the moment we're not looking at having plugged the gaps until the 2030s...
When has Britain adequately prepared for a military challenge in the last 120 years? The penny pinchers always win out and the the word "warmonger" is tossed about with abandon. With the amount of heavy armour and personnel the British Army has been pared down to they would have trouble defending a corner shop in East Grinstead.
Justin is a genius. Period.
The real question that needs to be asked is WHEN WILL UKRAINE PAY US BACK?
Never!!!
They are, they are the one defending liberty. Post 9/11 Ukraine send troops to Afghanistan in solidarity.
They questions we should ask is how to help them and defeat Russia.
@@erikeliasson9875 share Chief the third most corrupt country on the index is suddenly a bastion of freedom and democracy we should do everything we can to help them out by that you mean as much unlimited tax dollars as it's required? f no
@@erikeliasson9875 911 was an inside job so unless they're defending us from our own government they're not getting the job done they're just the money laundering operation for the military industrial complex and you're one of their rubes.
@@erikeliasson9875 lol
4 days ago, Denmark pledged a new €1 billion package of artillery ammo, drones and tanks to Ukraine
Awesome analysis, thank you so much for making this perspective available to us!
Thanks professor 👍🏼
Justin is spot on.
Thank you Mooch. If only every British - and European - voter would take time to watch AND understand this one...
Yay the video is back! Hate it when youtube does stuff like this, they've just been going more and more downhill.
I wondered what had happened to this vid, too.
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It was copyright claimed I think. But ward manged to sort it out
Moldova is not NATO and is the most probable secondary objective for annexation
Definitely. Russia already occupies the "Transnistria" region of Moldova. The problem is that taking Ukraine and Moldova do not achieve Russia's strategic goals. They also need to take NATO territory in Romania, Poland, and the Baltics to plug the land invasion routes to Moscow. That means war with NATO and since Russia can't compete with conventional weapons, the use of tactical nukes.
And they are keenly aware of this probable Russian strategy!
Newsflash: when you're the loser, you don't get to dictate terms.
I hope our leadership is listening to what this young man is saying otherwise someone’s gonna hand our Ass on a platter
This guy needs to watch the video back. His stupidly is unreal.
Excellent discussion but, it is based on false assumption of Russian KIAs till date. Russia has fought mostly a defensive war so far. As such it is difficult to accept your proclaimation that Russians have suffered 100K plus KIA more than Ukrainian KIAs.
I believe a major problem with training them in new hardware is that they learn it okay but their superiors at home are not being trained and they force old Soviet doctrine onto the very disappointed Ukrainian soldiers. This happened when European armour was delivered. I expect it will happen with the F16s too.
The problem is trainig itself not being relevant in the situation Ukraine is in. NATO combined arms doctrine relies on many components of which Ukraine only has very few. Modern armor they were supplied (very late and in insufficient numbers) can only operate effectively under full air superiority condition which Ukraine never had and very unlikely will ever have. Without that russian helicopters can just shoot them one by one with AT missiles from safe distance like on a training range. Thoursands of km long and doesens km deep minefields that russians can constantly refresh remotely after demining don't really help with active maneuvering either. Remember what NATO instructor answered ukrainian tankers when they asked how to deal with minefields? "Just go around them!" Yeah...
See, it's not ukrainians being too stupid to embrace and use western doctrine, it's the west's unwilingness to supply all the components their doctrine requires in sufficient numbers and in timely manner that makes Ukraine unable to use it.
Another outstanding video. Thank you
Please, share this video to anybody who says that supporting Ukraine is too expensive and ask them to watch at least the last 10 minutes. Some of them might actually watch it.
Spending 200 billions per year on Afgan war, nobody gives a Damm. Spending less than 100 billions on Ukraine and everyone losses their mind
How sad, encouraging people to look at the countless deaths in Ukraine as good for business at home.
When you really start thinking about it, even something as simple as what he said at the start, "how you take your shots" can get mind bendingly complicated. I've flown a small number single engine private planes and I'm well aware of the need to pay attention to everything going on around me. Regardless it's still difficult to imagine the task saturated environment these pilots are in from wheels up until touchdown.