Vietnam's Cham Community
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2013
- A report on how Vietnam's ethnic Cham community has survived through many of the country's political upheavals especially along the country's border with Cambodia. It features how community leaders want to preserve the traditional Cham culture as much as they can before it's too late.
Reporter/Producer: Susan Yu
Cameraman: Eric Seldin
Broadcast: STAR TV Focus Asia 2003
Huh. Muslims in Vietnam.
Even as a Vietnamese person, I learn something new about my country everyday.
The Dai-viet invaded Champa, migrating to south and domineering the culture and oppressed the rest. The Champan King had a close ties with the Malay Kingdoms and converted to Islam in 17th century. You don’t learn this history in school?
@@faridrusli3403 vietnamese and cambodaisn were the majority of the population of the champa nation.. champa were always a seafaring poeple and dindt every have a majority of the population. vietnamese cam in huge numbers as refugees fomr the chaos of the mongols invasions and spread down into the cambodian territories as well and slowly outpopulated them. but the time the cham began delcining they were already probably only 10-15 percent of their own country. they still survived in a form of political entity till the 19th century withthe arrival of european mercinaries int he region and really only fell complacently form power in the 19th century.. remeber there was no vietnam as a nation before the french created it prior to that there was a number of fragmented states .
@@faridrusli3403 did you learn anything about the opium war in school?
Hindus were majority in cham community in early vietnam
Still hindus of vietnam is majority but combodian cham is now mulla
Animistic not Hindu or Muslim
Lmao not hindus but animistcs pajeet
@@hoameitat7121 not animistic but hindu. You can read wikipedia:
"The first recorded religion of the Champa was a form of Shaiva Hinduism, brought by sea from India. Hinduism was the predominant religion among the Cham people until the sixteenth century. Numerous temples dedicated to Shiva were constructed in the central part of what is now Vietnam. The jewel of such temple is Mỹ Sơn. "
we moved to china about 400 years now, because of the war between vietnam and cham. we still now call ourself cham, and speak cham but too much different to theirs. most important is we still keep the same religion，Alahamdulilia!
Lee xiang any cham with the old tribal tattoos?
@@Ghostrider33333 sorry,we dont have tattoo coz we r cham muslim
@@leexiang9549 do you live in Hainan (海南). i hear some rumor that there are a Cham community who fled from champa to there many decades
alhamdulilah keep your language to your childern and your neighbor
hey does cham is malay?..Because i look..some cham are malay..cham malay..is it true?
What about the much larger group of Vietnamese Hindu Cham?
Is there? I thought majority of the Cham in Vietnam were Muslim.
Jesse Calcat they are an even smaller minority in Vietnam.
Are you talking about the Cham Bani in Phan Rang?
Cham were originally Hindu. But since the entire world cares more about Muslims...the people who made this said "fuck them"
First, majority of cham people are hindu because of war and failure against enemies and they don't believe their religion then the country was divided two main religion including Muslim and Hindu.
I know this is a much older video, but I learned a long time ago that my father's lineage comes from Người Chàm which obviously makes me one as well. He never really taught me the history behind it, so if anyone has any useful tips or information that they'd like to send me, I would really appreciate it. I really want to learn more about this part of my family. I'm Vietnamese American, and unlike what I see here in the video, our family has always practiced Buddhism. Thank you again!
The Dai-viet (Vietnamese) from the north invaded the Champa Kingdom (who were Cham) and migrating to the south and become the dominant culture in 19th century. Both are ethnically and linguistically different. However the Cham are closer to the Malay by race (Austronesian) and the language (Malayo-Polynesian) compared to Vietnamese. You can read more on the History of Champa Kingdom until its fall in 1832 by the vietnam expansion and suppression of Cham culture and language and Cham community refugees in Malaysia after the fall of Saigon and Phnom Penh in 1975. This may not be important to you but i think you should rethink that Cham and Vietnamese (nguoi viet/kinh) are not the same.
@@faridrusli3403 thank you for teaching me
I am a non cham vietnamese, proud convert of Hinduism from Catholic faith.
Actually champ was hindu community just like Indonasia but after that many of them accept Islam.
Super brother🙏🙏🙏
Me too! (but from Buddhism)
You are a hindu now???
@@jasontodd4031 dude bro🙏🚩 , Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism too are the integral part of Hinduism
Seeing you weave tells me that you still maintain the ancient way of life practiced by your ancestors. Minorities on the mainland southeast asia knew how to weave. Please keep it up.
I am Cham and I live in CAMBODIA. My first language us still Cham and I still speak in everyday.
let's go back to vietnam because vietnam is where champa was born, not cambodia
@@Kephandien98 exactly.
@@Kephandien98 yes and can you bring your illegal Viet friends back too?
I’m jarai and can understand some Cham words.
To make the history short, Cham are the descendant of the Javanese, the modern day Malsysian/Indonesian. They practiced Hindu religion like that of the Khmer(Cambodian). When Javanese excepted Islam as their new religion, Cham people also followed. With Annam(Vietnam) relentlessly encroached into Champa and a constant war with Khmer, over times, Champa king deteriated and vanished by 17th century.
I'm a Javanese, my ancestors were of course Mahayana Buddhist and they willingly converted to Islam without even being forced by anyone (They followed what religion their King/Maharaja adheres to). And now, 95 percents of Javanese people are Muslims and Javanese has been the majority ethnic group in the Southeast Asia even since the ancient time. We influenced & ruled a lot Other Inhabitants of the Nusantara (Now : Indonesia). Our leader also made an oath to unify all the people and the regions of the Nusantara under one rule (Javanese rule) which was already fulfilled, but after the colonisation we're separated with our brethren who are the Malaysians, Bruneians, and Singaporeans (They all were once the tributary states to the Javanese Thallasocratic empire, prior to the European coming). Indonesia was almost 98% Muslims, but after the coming of the Dutch forcing people to adhere to their religion & spreading hatred among indigenous ethnic groups (Devide Et Impera Tactic) Many People eventually left Islam. That's the Greatest difference between Christianity & Islam. Islam was spread by Peace with no violence (Trade, marriage, and Da'wah). Meanwhile, Christianity was spread here by the Dutch with colonisation, force, torture, and other-violence involving tactics to Christen all the Muslims in Nusantara. And Thanks to Islam, Now Indonesia is the world's most civilised Developing country with the lowest Homicide & Suicide rate in the world. And in the whole history, Indonesia never had any organised crime group (Like Yakuza, Triad, Wah Ching, Born To Kill, etc.), and there has never been any street gangs in Indonesia. Furthermore, Overseas Indonesians never participated nor established any organised crime group like others do.
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See! Indonesia is the only country on Earth that has big population who almost all are Muslims, but how come she can maintain the homicide rate very-very low? Simply, it's because the teachings of Islam that civilised us. So, You want to say again that These Muslim Indonesians are dangerous? In fact, No other developing countries can be as civilised as Indonesia. Even The U.S and the U.K won't have any chance comparing to Indonesia. Truthfully speaking, Living in Indonesia is 8 Times safer than live in the U.K and that of course is multiple times even safer than live in the so-called America.
*Extra Fact :* All Muslim-majority countries have the lowest suicide rate in the universe
I'm pretty sure, Khmer & Cham have Javanese ancestry, it's all because Cambodia was once a part of the Javanese dominion. Just look at the Khmer script! It resembles a lot the Kawi script (Old Javanese alphabet)! We Indonesians also love the Khmer, because Khmer are the most peaceful Buddhists in Southeast Asia. Khmer don't discriminate Khmer Islam (Cham), that's why We really respect Khmer people. Love from a Javanese ❤ 🇮🇩🇰🇭
@@Velvetia datanya dari mana mbak, link dong
Just type on your search engine by the keyword of "Intentional Homicide Rate" and afterwards, click on the Wikipedia
It's should be on the first result.
@Jacky Phantom Do you know Borobudur Temple? It's the biggest Mahayana Buddhist Temple on Earth. It's located really close to where my ancestors originated from (Southern Part of Central Java).
Thanks for upload this video.I can able to know the Cham Muslim community in Vietnum.
From India
U should learn Chams in cambodia
nowadays they are close to malaysia. because I meet many malaysian in cambodia in cham village. I dont know why
Someday they r going to blow up vietnam. Kaboom!
I’m a Cham Vietnamese American and I know there is a lot of misinformation in this. I don’t recall any Cham person only practicing Ramadan for three days and allowing alcohol. I want to learn more about my people but i think this hurts other Cham people living in America from learning about this.
I'm a Cham Vietnamese American and Korean. I used to lived in a village with a lot of people that speak Cham, and I still understand and speak it.
Im interested in knowing if there are any cham alive who still have the old tribal tattoos.
shine shine do you live near a large Cham community? There are many in the East and west coast. I don’t know much about the middle of america.
Jellymee ee I cant say I do but please let me know if you find information on this!
Waynimations I messaged the “patterns
Of life” documentary directors and they said there are some still alive who have them. I just can’t find any info. I hope someone goes and documents the tradition, for the sake of preserving the ancient knowledge within those patterns. However Cham being predominantly Muslim, I’m sure that this practice is not only banned but looked down upon.
Wiki:
Bani Islam is the syncretic form of Shi'a Islam that blends indigenous practices of matriarchy, ancestor veneration and Hinduism is practiced by the Cham Bani, who predominantly live in Vietnam's Bình Thuận and Ninh Thuận Provinces, and is considered unorthodox from mainstream Islam.[82] The Cham Bani worship in thang magik, the main communal setting for rituals.[82] They also celebrate the month of Ramuwan (Ramadan), during which ancestors are called to return home for veneration, and the acar (priests) stay at the thang magik for one month and adhere to a vegetarian diet.[82]
However, a small band of Chams, who called themselves Kaum Jumaat, follow a localized adaptation of Islamic theology, according to which they pray only on Fridays and celebrate Ramadan for only three days. Some members of this group have joined the larger Muslim Cham community in their practices of Islam in recent years. One of the factors for this change is the influence by members of their family who have gone abroad to study Islam.
Their history and our history is same
even we are from champa Kingdome the Chakma people
No, u chakma people are not from champ kingdom.
Actually champ kingdom like other south east asians came from hindus of north-east, east and south India and have a cultural influence of north India.
And u chakma people are north-east hindu-buddhist ( hindus in ancient times ).
Actually u people lost your territory in east-Pakistan ( now bangladesh ) during Independence and migrated into India due to Britishers ( which divides India into different countries by making wrong borders ) and Pakistani army [ which kicked u from east-pakistan ( now Bangladesh) because you weren't muslims and also you wanted to merge your land into India. And Pakistani army didn't like your plan ].
You're right
i want to correct your statement , alcohol is not allowed in muslim vietnam community .
our long lost brothers in indo china.you may come back to malaysia at anytime.
@GreaterGood510 Lol his ex-prime minister also fundamentalist ........
Mokadir bodoh
Come Malaysia just like that, and get bumiputra
@@Truthseeker838 your pm modi is mental retarded case.....first safe minorities from his cruelty.
Malangnya Champa telah jatuh ke tangan Vietnam
In 12th century, the Cham defeated Khmer Empire at Angkor in Cambodia. The Khmer Empire ended with the fall of Angkor in the 15th century. Since then, Angkor has been abandoned entering a spiral of decline from which it never recovered.
Viet nam is not a part of China ,or ethnic minority of China - Viet Nam is a nation who deafeated the mongols during 13th century while China is conquered by them ! Viet nam is independant from china since 980 more than 1000 years ago !
But the barbaric Viet tribes were slaves of China for over 1000 years!
@@supremekhmer6596 : we had kicked the china's ass out from time to time. and how about khmer empire? who are crying on internet nowaday? khmer baby all the time.
I don't recall women weaving in public view as "haram" (forbidden) in Islam. Not even here in Malaysia, and Islamic ulamas (religious scholars) here don't even mention about that. Maybe this ruling of forbidding women from weaving in public view comes from the ultra-orthodox Wahabbis / Salafis, not from the Shafiis.
Maybe, in their tradition
Yeah, that is true there is no ruling about this. Women are allowed to do weaving in public
I’m champa and I speek cham
champa is malay
Champ is hindu
@@rajankandel3317 your father
Are u Malay?
@@karrel.982 not they are your father ....... Go and research
I didn't know there's a local muslim community in Vietnam. I really wanted to visit Vietnam but was worried about where to find halal food and where to pray. This is quite a surprise for me.
Cham muslims dont follow halal rules. Do to isolation for hundreds of years from mainstream Islam, Cham Islam has fused to a degree with buddhism and hindu elements.
@@mongolchiuud8931
You don't make propaganda, Muslims in Vietnam still follow religious rules, they don't eat pork and don't drink alcohol
Indonesian Tangkas how is it proproganda if it’s true? Youre Indonesian how do you NOT know the Cham people asked for Indonesian and Malay clerics to help bring there Islam back to orthodoxy. Because after hundreds of years there Islam has changed. it was big news in the Islamic community in south east Asia.....are you sure YOU are Indonesian or just a troll.
@@mongolchiuud8931
here are some comments from Cham, they say that the news is not true
don't worry about that. im vietnamese. a local who know very clearly that there are many halal restaurants in Ha Noi or Ho Chi Minh. in Ho chi minh city you can pray in many mosque. such as Saigon Central Mosque 80 years old locate in 66 Dong Du Street, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
. or Jamiul Islamiyah Mosque in 495B Tran Hung Dao Street, Cau Kho Ward, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
. etc.. even in Ha Noi you can pray in Al Noor Mosque : Few Minute walk away from Dong Xuan Market and the night market. welcome to vietnam my friend
Idk where this place is at but my Cham community in an giang pray 5 times a day and fast Ramadan the 29th to 30 days
I am a Muslim from Malaysia.I hv visited Chau Doc a number of times.I hv friends here.I dont know where did Susan Yu did her research or from where she got some of the informations.Really surprised!We Muslims dont consumed pork.Alcohol not allowed.Who told her alcohol is allowed.
There's a period of time, religion wasn't allowed to be practiced under Communist rule. They are now allowing it; therefore, some ppl just follow their religion loosely.
@@sgcl10658 Well, whatever it is it's Haram (Forbidden)
I'm kinda disappointed that they don't live on the coast where all Austronesians naturally thrive.
On the coast of Viet Nam, in the region formerly known as Panduranga, the 19th century Vietnamese emperor Minh Mạng forcibly moved certain Cham villages away from the South China Sea in order to cut Cham people's ties with Insular SE Asia, thus reducing their power and ability to seek help from other Austronesian peoples with whom they held longstanding trade, cultural, and linguistic ties. This is according to a Cham anthropologist who revealed this deeper history to me. Some of the Hindu Cham (Balamon) in that region still preserve oceanic/water concepts in their funeral practices and concepts of the afterlife. Yet like most people they've learned to adapt to their new landscape/conditions in order to survive. This is somewhat similar to the history of the Cham in Chau Doc Province, who emigrated west (into/towards Khmer lands) during Vietnamese conquest of their kingdom of Champa (which occurred between 1460s-1830s).
Not all Austronesians lives in the coasts. The Taiwanese Aborigines themselves lived in the inlands
Come back your community please you're special more more
I am champa people
Muslims Praying 5 time's a day , and friday not only every friday , and no alcohols, @ ammendment @
cham was a hindu kingdom establised by kings from India, where buddhism and jainism proliferated too. they became muslims. too bad.
Alhamdulillah..
What's the reason?
there is still some hindu cham left.. but most are muslims
@@Phongtranvlog5777 like many southeast asian kingdom, trade
I'm Cambodia 🇰🇭 Champa Muslim 🥰🥰
Many misinformation in this video unfortunately. It is NOT against Islam for women to weave in public as stated in 4:26. That's ridiculous. In Malaysia, many Muslim women are engaged in economic activities and they conduct themselves openly. One such place is Pasar Siti Khadijah in Kelantan where almost all the shops are manned by women. How on earth Susan Yu came about this info is beyond me.
in saudi arabia ,woman just have the right to drive a car recently ! in many muslim countries we don't see any woman in the market .All the vendors are men !
@@thnguyen372 wrong... majority of vendors for eg fish are Muslim women.
@@BoqPrecision Yes, especially the Muslim women in Malaysia. You see many women at the wet market in Kelantan and the majority of the vendors are women. Even in Indonesia the largest Muslim country there are many female vendors in the wet markets across the country.
@@thnguyen372 You're confusing ethnic patriarchal customs with Islam.
Do you know that there is nothing in Islamic laws which say that women cannot drive ?
Do you know that the Caliph Umar Al-Khattab once appointed a woman to oversee the marketplace at Madinah which during that time was the city's economic centre ?
Salaam to all Champa brother from Bangladesh 🇧🇩❤️
Cham is ethnic Ba Chao
If you put up an enclosure around the weaving area, then you won't be visible in the public.
Beautiful culture! Im wondering, do the majority of ethnic Cham in Vietnam practice Islam or Hinduism today?
Cham Hinduism live in Ninh Thuan province. Cham Islam live in An Giang province.
Mostly Islam.
@@sgcl10658 majority of cham in Vietnam are hindu but Cambodian cham is muslim and few Mahayana Buddhist and no hindu . But in 22 cham Vietnam villages 15 are hindu and the rest 7 muslim
long live champa... from java (jawa) - Indonesia.
👍Tq
same and acheh
Out of all the other religions why Islam?
They used to be Hindu but in 15th century, the Cham King changed his religion to Islam then followed the royal family members, eventually their people.
Why do you hate islam islamophobic people?
Vietnamese cham are mostly hindu and Cambodian cham is fully muslim
@@sgcl10658 17th, it’s bc of a Cham princess
Don't worry!keep silent.everything are going to create music mix them all together with twitter
This is wrong. The Chams never defeated the Khmer Empire. It was just a surprised attack by one of the Cham King probably in the middle of the night and he just looted some statues and bought it back to his city.
My name last name is Cham
Chams seem to be doing much better than your average Khymer or Loation
I thought most cham in Cambodia are muslim and hindu in Vietnam
8 phút 21 giây
i love cham Muslims so peaceful
Really peaceful when they are minority and when they are majority they fight to divide country as what they have done to India and former Yugoslavia
If Islam is so peaceful they wont be killing muslim for leaving the faith in majority muslim countries
Thank you my friend, love from Cham people
What arabic doing in cham culture??
Really Islam is your culture and traditions??
The King of Champa had a close ties with Malay Kingdoms and converted to Islam in 17th century, adopting Jawi alphabet (modified Arabic script).
What Indian doing in Cham?
Really Hindu is your culture and traditions?
@@lamlam381 Difference is that non-Indian Hindus still retain their culture. Hindu beliefs have been absorbed into the local culture. For many Muslims, they try to become Arab, even the script they write with, clothing and names they adopt from Arabs. That is very different to Hinduism and other Eastern religions which were syncretised with local religions and cultures. Balinese Hindus are not the same as Indian Hindus. Nepalese Hindus are not the same as Indian Hindus. Bhutanese Hindus are not the same as Indian Hindus.
Alhamdulillah cham people stay muslim after 8 th
🥰🇰🇭
Don"t forget. Vietnam who created the Khmer Rouge! Pol Pot was a scapegoat.
Lol. Chinese propaganda. Get ready to convert your nationality to Chinese soon because they will take over your country.
tại sao quá cay? Pol pot giết chết nhiều người khmer, không phải việt công.
You should be lucky Viet Cong helped Kampuchea to remove Pol Pot otherwise there are no smart Khmer generation because Pol Pot killed them all
According to historians, protracted border wars between the Chinese and the Cham people had continued for many centuries. China had many times attempted to invade and occupy Kingdom of Champa. To survive, the Cham and Vietnamese people united together as one army standing up against the Chinese invaders. And again, they came together to protect their country Vietnam against other foreign invaders in the 20th century. Vietnam is a multiethnic country with 54 distinct minorities, including Cham people. They always unite together defending their homeland against all foreign invaders.
Cham-Vietnamese War (1471)
On November 28,[6] 1470, Le Thanh Tong formally launched his attack as a 100,000-strong Vietnamese naval expedition set out that day, followed by another Vietnamese army consisting of 150,000 men on December 8.[7]
The Vietnamese army was reorganized to copy the Chinese army, armed with gunpowder weapons. Le Thanh Tong raised a total of 300,000-strong army in the battlefield and, significantly outnumbering the 100,000-strong Cham army. This came at a massive financial cost since it drained the Vietnamese treasury of 1,000 gold liang each day.[8] However, it decisively won the war.
The Vietnamese conducted a *genocide campaign* against the Cham, slaughtering 60,000 when taking the capital. The Vietnamese committed arson and theft and burned massive parts of Champa, seizing the entire country.
*The Cham representatives told the Ming Empire that "Annam destroyed our country".* The Chinese Ming Dynasty records contain the extent of the Vietnamese destruction wrought on Champa. The Vietnamese enslaved several thousand Chams and enacted forced assimilation of Vietnamese culture onto Chams. The number included 50 members of the royal family.[9] The Chams informed the Ming that they continued to fight against the Vietnamese occupation of their land, which had been turned into the 13th province of Đại Việt.[10]
The Champa kingdom was destroyed by the invasion, leaving small rump states which lasted until 1832, when emperor Minh Mang initiated the final conquest of the remnants of Champa. The Vietnamese ceramics trade was severely affected due to impact suffered by the Cham merchants after the invasion.[11] The Ming scholar Wu Pu (吳樸) recommended that to help stop the Vietnamese, Ming should help resuscitate the Champa Kingdom.[12]
The Ming Empire sent a censor, Ch'en Chun, to Champa in 1474 to install the Champa King, but his entry was blocked by Vietnamese soldiers who had taken over Champa. He proceeded to Malacca instead and its ruler sent back tribute to the Ming dynasty[13].Malacca sent envoys again in 1481 to inform the Ming that while going back to Malacca in 1469 from a trip to China, the Vietnamese attacked them, castrating the young and enslaving them. The Malaccans reported that Đại Việt was in control of Champa and sought to conquer Malacca, but the Malaccans did not fight back due to lack of permission from the Ming to engage in war. The Ming Emperor scolded them, ordering the Malaccans to strike back with violent force if the Vietnamese attacked.[14][15]
Only a small Cham kingdom remained in the south but this did not persist. Around 162,000 Cham remain in Vietnam today.[16]
The victory allowed the Đại Việt a period of stability since it united the north under the Trinh dynasty. It also allowed the kingdom to consolidate its power in its later conflict with the Nguyen family that ruled the south.
tl;dr Are you Vietnamese or Champa? Vietnamese are the reason of their mass exodus from their homeland, and being subject to vietnamisation after conquest.
Why do ppl argue over this? All you have to do is Google Champa kingdom. Champa had long history of conflicts with Khmer empire and Dai Viet kingdom. Champa did have marriage alliance with Dai Viet but never lasted long. Cham were known for surprised attacks and looting. Vietnam attacked backed and wiped them out. Vietnam was wrong, but Champa was not innocent either. Champa once attacked Hanoi, the capital of Vietnam.
Cham never had a united war with vietnamese. They were under Chinese emperors. If you said China wanted to be occupied over Cham. That's not true. This was the Vietnamese who were been free from Chinese.
Cham People Were Hindus
#soudi arab government help them plz#
Formerly the kingdom of champ was under the protection of Majapahit empire like the myth film 😷 prncess of joseon mrry qin empror , prncess of champ mrry fifth brawijaya (mjaphit emperor)
muslim Việt nam
japan tradition land of chinese champ..
Kelantan Muslims are champ people
No they arent,the culture might be kinda similiar because of khmer influence but the language is very different.The chams are closer to the acehnese.
@@gamergenix5429 hm i undertsand kelantan and i actually understand cham language its similar
@@gamergenix5429 champa was part of one of the kelantan kingdom and kelanta-pattani always together with champa
@@gamergenix5429 kelantan-pattani and cham never had khmer influence but similar only and look at the music instrument like serunai it is from kelantan-kedah-pattani and south thai even champ have serunai which is called saranai
@@gamergenix5429 look at this dance ua-cam.com/video/7lkJObSG50Q/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/D6xXUWAbLjA/v-deo.html look at the headwear of the women
Vietnam government need to provide a place that the champa people can live their own like but still consider Vietnamese just like American and Indians
What u know about America and India
@@Truthseeker838 he means native americans
muslim Cham is good brothers in Vietnam :), brother Religions :)
Trong Hoang Phan when they becoming in majority then u see what Muslims do...
We love Cham for a longtime!
@@Sanatani_kattar
Malaysia and Indonesia: "Are we joke to you"
@@indonesiantangkas7446 yes they r joke but when they become majority in India and all asian countries people will see the impact just like pakistan ,brunie,malyasia,afghan,bangladehs,maldives, syria, and many morw
@@IM_Nothing00 thats why India is among the lowest gdp per capita
Cham Muslim is NOT real ISLAM
To all brothers and sisters in Islam all over the world. As we all know that the media is always telling something bad to Muslims. We Muslim VietNam, we pray 5 times in a day, in Ramadhan we fast full month , we do exactly as same as the Muslim Umah do all over the world. Alcohol is Haram as we all know. You watch this video clip you should know that they are trying to tell you something that untrue! I hope this comment will reach to every Muslim watching this video.
Don't worry to much, we all know about it.
salemohgame we indian Muslims respect cham Muslims forget about lier media they always insulating islam for publicity
salemohgame fuck yourself
salemohgame u forget your forefathers culture
positive society fuck yourself mohammad the rapist
Cham comeback Hinduism this was your great root
+Vicky Rock Key word is was
***** yas
You are right Vicky. Iam Vietnamese Cham baptize as Catholic in Vietnam; now I embrace Hinduism philosophy and traditions. The Chams that embrace Muslim done it mainly in confusion and convienience; like most Vietnamese we lost our true tradition because of wars and ravages of time. If one was to seriously take religious life into account , one should investigate, question, explore. when I observed the Catholic religion, I had alot of questions and confusion, I felt like a fish out of water. Through my inquisitiveness and blessing from God, I found my true religion that agree with my soul and spirit. To me Islam if too confining to the soul and offer no real path towards enlightenment, only rituals and a confusing book. Hindusism offer one a path, road map and guidlines toward self-realization and real freedom from the suffering of this world and after if you dont want to reincarnate
Quevan Pham yes brother we know ones time Champa ruled biggest kingdom in south east Asia. But now they are suffering in combodia Thailand Vietnam they lost own unity and golden history. Ones time was you are king of sauth east Asia
As much as I dont like the way things have turn out for the Chams, Khmer, Annams and other ; I am grateful for Mother India, For over 20.000 years she still hold steadfast to her tradtitions and remain a beacon light of hope, and a spiritual pillar for those seeking truths and real liberation now and after
Listen to me.
Veitnam Cham pa are= Hindu.🕉🙏🏻
Cambodia Cham pa are = ☪hutiya Muslims
90 percent champas are muslim
And listen
South Thailand is Muslim Thai/Malay
Rip Buddhism and Hinduism slowly in S.E Asia lol
@@persianimmortal2869 Muslims in Southeast Asia are culturally very different to Middle Eastern Arab/Persian Muslims. Despite being Muslims, they still retain their pre-Islamic Hindu-Buddhist cultural heritage and practice a form of Islam that is influenced by Sufism and is very different to the form of Islam practices in the Middle East. Southeast Asia is influenced by Indian and Chinese culture and heritage and even though people are Muslim, they still retain their indigenous heritage. Largest Muslim country in the world (Indonesia) retains all of its Hindu-Buddhist Indic cultural heritage. So in other words, never going to happen but keep laughing though.
Cringe
Cham are Hindus
Were, not now due the their last King.
@@sgcl10658 Vietnamese cham are mostly hindu and Cambodian cham are muslim
Thanks to Cham . Javanese the second largest muslim ethnic group in the world was islamized by Cham
Poor javanese. they could have been so much more, but instead they were handcuffed into the most primitive and barbaric religion with a 7th century mindset even though the rest of the world is in the 21st century.
Datuk Rajo fuck 7th century relegion
so that is a shame point not for proud go convert your self in hindu back.
Heil. Seriously. Filipinos are an island in a sea of Islamic shit. The Cham (they wanted to leave Hinduism for some reason), and the other Malay cousins like the Indos, Malays, Bruneians. But don't worry, there's the Bailnese...respect to Bali, East Timor and of course the other Malay ethnic groups...the people of the Eastern Islands: Saamoans, Maori etc.
Shanu Kumar, they lost their soul when the Cham converted.
why cham people converted and divided. they are weak now
Champa kingdom was conquers by Vietnamese and they have to fled the country to avoid genocide from imperial vietnam but have to go back in vietnam 1979 because of khmer rogue
Vietnamese cost a lot innocent Cambodia civilian including the champa yoo
True my dad told me that Vietnam took over some of the Champa land
Vietnam belong to Cham people.Viet and Sukothai (Thai) stole Malays' Kingdom .Malay kingdoms very big since Srivijaya Era.
Sorry. Chams aren't Malay. Neither are the Malays themselves and the Indonesians. They care more about their religion than their ethnicity. To that...I say go fuck yourself.
They are melayu champa and Ayuthaya
@Ranker srivijaya are more to buddist than hindus
indian comming up in vietnam to restore cham old religion and culture
Vicky Rock it will not happen we will Fuck you bitch,Who want to listen to Indian,India is a shithole country full of rapists!
@@charleshoang6481 www.newindianexpress.com/world/2017/jan/14/third-phase-of-cambodia-temple-restoration-by-indian-archaeologists-begins-1559618.html
english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/art-entertainment/198393/india-helps-translate-ancient-inscriptions-in-my-son-sanctuary.html
indianexpress.com/article/explained/ananda-temple-ta-prohm-cham-monuments-thiruketeeswaram-how-india-is-restoring-cultural-symbols-beyond-its-shores-temples-4842494/
Major Restoration is done already
Domestic Chihuahua so why you don’t eat beef and worship, uhm, mouses?
The haft of Vietnam land befor is land of Muslim Belongs to Muslim
Nah bitch. The Champa had their land in Vietnam when they were Hindus. Now they've lost it, and they're muslim. Those days are gone now. Too long ago. So fuck off Sothy Wath.
Cham belong to Malaysia not Vietnam,they live in wrong country !
I already knows about this history
@@charleshoang6481 then take your muslim cham to your malaysia
@@charleshoang6481 Malaysia gave shelter to Viet boat people during Viet-US War. Malaysia save desperate people. TQ Malaysia. We'll never forget....
Champs are not Muslims.
They are muslim you stupid
@@ThatOneMalaysianGuy Vietnamese cham are mostly hindu and Cambodian cham are muslim and some Mahayana Buddhist and no hindu. In 22 Vietnamese cham villages 15 are hindu and rest 7 muslim
cham peoples larnig Arabic script it's so funny.....
what's is larnig?????????
Muzafar Wan Kuran.
u meant learning? ok.
I mean learning a middle eastern Scripture whose Not related to the Asia
so middle eastern is not Asia? where is it?
No they no peaceful islam no peace
The Cham is Cambodian
You on that Hashish? Chams are Javanese from Borneo. They aren't Cambodians.
AYU ꧁ꦥꦿꦶꦪꦤ꧀ꦠꦸꦤ꧀ꦗꦮꦶ꧂
Yes, indeed we are cousin
Indonesians, Malaysians, and Bruneians love the Chams, Khmer Islam, and the rest of Cambodian peoples. We never forget our relatives there. May Allah Bless All The Khmer Islam with healthiness, serenity, wealth, and happiness. And keep them all under His protection from any kinds of Heinous Fitnah and prejudice. Amin Ya Robbal Alamin. 😊🌈
AYU ꧁ꦥꦿꦶꦪꦤ꧀ꦠꦸꦤ꧀ꦗꦮꦶ꧂
Aameen
@@Velvetia they arw austronesian just like us
*North vietnam* and *south vietnam* is genetically very distinct. I think that should be separate.
I agree
@@wordsandverses where are you from?
lol. where do you come from joker? we are vietnamese and we have 54 ethnics. we have a Cultural diversity . why do you want us separate ?
Vietnam invaded champa they wiped them off the map,they invaded Cambodia and took more their land and lie about it
Claimbodia online land claiming shut off
Islam has the most ancient laws and rules in todays society, some even barbaric and unhumane. Just get as far as possible from it and Vietnam will be safer.
AYU Inoue your country still Bombing Churches and Caning Womens
Look...how many Southeast Asians work in Malaysia, including Vietnamese who work in Malaysia, they are safe.
and look at the tolerance of religious differences in Indonesia.
we are fine here, why do non Muslims always make propaganda and say bad things about Islam?..
and we don't denigrate other religions, but why do non Muslims often judge badly about Islam?.
And why do Indians always make religious propaganda to Southeast Asia?..
its newest major religion. similar to judaism and christianity
in Vietnam. we don't care your religion. as long as you don't harm this country.
According to historians, protracted border wars between the Chinese and the Cham people had continued for many centuries. China had many times attempted to invade and occupy Kingdom of Champa. To survive, the Cham and Vietnamese people united together as one army standing up against the Chinese invaders. And again, they came together to protect their country Vietnam against other foreign invaders in the 20th century. Vietnam is a multiethnic country with 54 distinct minorities, including Cham people. They always unite together defending their homeland against all foreign invaders.
Wrong history. It was Vietnam the conquer and destroy thier country Champa and colonize and commit genocide and they did not fight together in war
@@neozeon2567 đánh chămpa là dơ Đạie viet đánh còn Việt Nam! Thì mới dk thành lập lúc đánh thực dân pháp