4:54 Usually I'd fix an error like this, but my internet is legitimately so bad at the moment that this video would be a day late since I caught it after I uploaded.
the discount thing is really cool for getting a bit more variety in rounds, the EZchem is hilarious as a concept and might actually be useful and i’m generally liking how AI’s coming along so far. Glory to the WEEWOO Helm (it’s craftaftable btw, pretty easy too, so literally the entire sec team can have them at once). also, for anyone reading, Harmony is 100% worth checking out, thanks to Liten and the other maintainers for their work
My only disappointment is that the Easychem booklet doesnt mention Left-4-ded as a possible chemical you can make for easier mutation chances. Koibean can be a pain in the ass sometimes, let alone getting Deus or Rainbow Weed.
you know ss14 makes me realise just how much stuff is in ss13 in the first place, SS14 seems to have been around for a fair amount of time and its STILL porting over features. its nuts man.
I'm sad at the Research Director losing the binary radio - used to have a roboticist that'd only be friends with the borgs and talk with them on that channel.
Yeah I think at the same time though, its cool that now only silicons are *supposed* to be able to talk on that frequency... Perhaps the RD could be given some special interface with the AI or something to allow them to request a status report on the station without all of command having to see it in their comms
Oh boy! The HoS shotgun is now linearly worse than an enforcer! I freakin love when special items get outclassed by standard equipment that crew can easily obtain at any point!
@@zankthegreat4291every time I've seen it used as such it tends to perform about as good as (or straight up worse if hos can actually aim) a regular disabler due to the spread and fire rate
RD losing binary is kinda weird, wonder if this is a prelude to Malf-AI, but otherwise lots of very cool changes. Botany getting round-start access to a bit of unstable mutagen and other botany chems is also great.
"You get an empty bottle, bottle of *potassium*, hydrogen, nitrogen, *phosphorous*, and ethanol, and then as well as a vial of radium and chlorine." Hmm, I think I'll grow some *sugar*cane. along with fly amanita, glassthistle, and pyrocotton.
Botany chemistry kit is great QoL for botany. I dont particularly play a lot of botany but i know its a little annoying that you have to take a roundstart trip to chemistry if you want to do mutations
Round start running to chem isn't even optimal, unless you're trying to make subpar mutant plants. It's best to improve the base plant so you get a 6 produce vulgaris that can be mutated into 6 produce deus, because once you're at deus you can't fix the produce count without a lot of extra work. That and chemists are not fans of you demanding stuff way too early, especially if you force the issue, that's how you get refused service. This doesn't mean you can't ask, just expect them to make it after they made the meds.
I really really like the Agrichem for botany. Sometimes medbay doesn't have a chemist, or they're stockpiling lots of lifesaving drugs and don't have time to make you the requisite bucket o' mutagen for having fun playing botany. Or, map specifically, it saves you the pain of walking the length of the entire station on Cog because Botany on Cog is on the complete opposite side of Medbay. I'd say I've been able to use Unstable Mutagen roughly half of the time, and I've only gotten to use stuff like Diethylamine twice. With the Agrichem kit, I should be able to use it every single round. Granted, it doesn't seem like it makes a lot of the stuff, but I think you can make 60 units of Diethylamine and 90 units of Unstable Mutagen. That's enough Mutagen to give Chemistry time to get settled with making their compulsory 15 jugs of medicine before having botany drop a bucket on their desk and point at it meaningfully. You can even make Left-4-Zed by yourself, though that cuts directly into how much Unstable Mutagen you get to make.
Having discounts was the most major thing the game was missing. Just for the reason you just listed that it makes you want to try out something that you wouldn't want to use ever. It opens up the game so much when players just have that option
Ah yes. Nerf to the ground one thing in eshotgun it was worth going for. Litaraly worse than enforcer now. Thanks wizden for bringing back Emergency Orders. No fun allowed i guess
@@Jedai_Gamesi was whining? I was so fucking happy the it was added. It was one of few good things wizden added in game alongside AI. And now it worthless, wizden really dont know what player want
it's still an excellent weapon due to literally having infinite shots so long as you can recharge it, that's like saying that the laser rifle is garbage because it can't out-dps the lecter.
@@the8626 Are you nuts? You really can't compare laser to a rifle. Laser shotgun cannot shot through the wall and does not act like a laser does. Enforcer is objectively better than this laser shotgun because it can self recharge on the spot with the ammo box
Antimov/overlord boards should be a TC purchase, great idea just weird to have it readily available. Also a custom laws board you could buy as syndie would be crazy
WTF, dude... The main downside of the shotguns is reloading and low capacity. You need to take some other weapon with you to not run out in a critical moment. So they take the one shotgun that can be used as the main weapon and force you to go back to brig to reload. The thing's gonna be left to rot in the locker for the whole round now. They need to map portable chargers to make it remotely useable now and even that's gonna be a hard sell cause of how much space those take.
Well as he said, before it was a threat to the whole station, so a nerf was needed to not make it quite as easy to be a one man army if an antag gets hold of it.
@@drakonlegend4452 the captain's laser has a pretty piss-poor overall damage output compared to ballistic weapons, unlike the energy shotgun. and as well, the whole point of the captain's laser is that it's literally on the captain, one of the most important and hardest people to kill who is specifically supposed to be going away from any situation where they could get hurt, whereas the HoS is specifically supposed to be dealing with threats in head-on confrontation.
@@catgckool428 Captain's laser is also a threat to the entire station. And he gets a crack melee weapon and godlike armor on top of it. Nobody wants to nerf those. Besides, one gun isn't going to get an antag to win. Not even china lake can do that.
@@the8626 Yeah, for some reason the guy who's supposed to actually fight gets a gun worse than revs can get from cargo, not even mentioning nukies with their bulldogs, china lakes and L6s. If HoS is a dumbass and died before all of his men did that's not the shotgun's fault. At this point they might aswell remove it and add back the documents. They are at least convenient to carry.
But does the tech anomaly trigger Hi-sec doors? What happens if ....by "accident" overcharge close to the armory? Love the "botany kit" (Now if they can fix a lot of botany areas and kitchen areas, that would be greeeeat), I think it would be great if they added an "starter kit" for every job somehow to introduce new players to stuff.
5:50 WTF dude for what. It was a cool easteregg and nobody was using the box fr anyways because everybody sees the box and immidiatly knows "Hm there is sombody hiding under that"
If you want a RMC round to comentate on, see #1079, it was a hell of a round. 3 hours and 55 minuets. Req began looting the MP quarters because the rest of the ship ran dry. Planetside had 2 almost evacs at the 2 hour mark. Constant siege gameplay.
The snoth is the most evil and vile creature to ever exist. While the mothroach is pure and innocent the snoth is vile and sinister. Do not trust a snoth ever.
The snail doesn't actually speak if you get it from a ghost raffle, it only does that if you debug control it So it shouldn't say anything while gibbing someone in a normal round
LILTEN, you gotta do spectating the recent salamander round, IT WAS ABSURD, even if it wasn’t very nukie centered I enjoyed the round as hamlet 1:30 in
The lil chemistry crate is great for newbotanists but provided very little value to robust botanists, providing only a half bottle of widely used chem. Give me mutagen round start the chemists will thank
Did they nerf ghetto EVA? Now even with 2 pieces of winter gear I still take cold damage in space. Sucks. In the end all comes down to nerfing crew, huh?
@@wtfdude1830 basic snails appear, I have seen all varieties in Levi. Its just havent seen snail who gibs people. But they do have funny bug where they can say last words and it works.
![[SS14] Every Crew Job/Role in Space Station 14](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6oBATdmQyqg/mqdefault.jpg)
4:54 Usually I'd fix an error like this, but my internet is legitimately so bad at the moment that this video would be a day late since I caught it after I uploaded.
What's the mistake?
Nothing happened
the discount thing is really cool for getting a bit more variety in rounds, the EZchem is hilarious as a concept and might actually be useful and i’m generally liking how AI’s coming along so far. Glory to the WEEWOO Helm (it’s craftaftable btw, pretty easy too, so literally the entire sec team can have them at once).
also, for anyone reading, Harmony is 100% worth checking out, thanks to Liten and the other maintainers for their work
My only disappointment is that the Easychem booklet doesnt mention Left-4-ded as a possible chemical you can make for easier mutation chances. Koibean can be a pain in the ass sometimes, let alone getting Deus or Rainbow Weed.
you know ss14 makes me realise just how much stuff is in ss13 in the first place, SS14 seems to have been around for a fair amount of time and its STILL porting over features. its nuts man.
It's because Wizden spends most of their time banning people off the steam forums for criticism.
@@Clown_the_Clownit's not the same people who are developing but sure
I mean, ss13 is like more than 20 years old, ss14 like 2/4 years only.
@@Bardomppretty sure 14 has been in development for at least 5 years.
@@Clown_the_Clown criticism and racism are 2 different things
Time for anomaly scientist dragging their protolathe next to the tech anomaly 'in case it connects to the APE and criticals itself'
son of a bitch, i thought it was a free anomoly, but you just made me realize it will likely be the most annoying fucker of all to manage
Great idea
The tech anom is going to be funny if you have c4 on your bag
the clown then it sees tech anom near armory is like christmas morning if it was forever
Clown cant use guns
I'm sad at the Research Director losing the binary radio - used to have a roboticist that'd only be friends with the borgs and talk with them on that channel.
Yeah I think at the same time though, its cool that now only silicons are *supposed* to be able to talk on that frequency... Perhaps the RD could be given some special interface with the AI or something to allow them to request a status report on the station without all of command having to see it in their comms
It's almost certainly because they're gonna add antag AI to the game and it is good for AI to be able to talk privately with its borgs.
@@thorjelly that's fair - though I'd love to have private comms with just borgs even if it's just a radio sort of thing
Oh boy! The HoS shotgun is now linearly worse than an enforcer! I freakin love when special items get outclassed by standard equipment that crew can easily obtain at any point!
the WT550 is better at this point. has lots more sustainability
The laser shotgun can't even shoot through glass, right? Its projectiles behave more like that of a disabler's. I dunno man...
@@fernando47180 yeah cant shoot through glass
Isn't it's use as a stun gun the best way to use it? It's a ranged baton
@@zankthegreat4291every time I've seen it used as such it tends to perform about as good as (or straight up worse if hos can actually aim) a regular disabler due to the spread and fire rate
RD losing binary is kinda weird, wonder if this is a prelude to Malf-AI, but otherwise lots of very cool changes.
Botany getting round-start access to a bit of unstable mutagen and other botany chems is also great.
I like playing Borg. I want more crew to have access to binary :(
Imagine taking out the AI as a syndie then using a voicemask and binary key to command borgs impersonating the AI
Or maybe a prelude to adding languages , like deepstation, i loved toggling my species language in ss13 lol.
Yes it’s because of malf, otherwise Borgs and ai would need to gib rd round start
i think reason for that is AI core now is in charge of borgs so RD losing access to binary makes sense.
"You get an empty bottle, bottle of *potassium*, hydrogen, nitrogen, *phosphorous*, and ethanol, and then as well as a vial of radium and chlorine."
Hmm, I think I'll grow some *sugar*cane. along with fly amanita, glassthistle, and pyrocotton.
Death nettle.
Acids have a much faster metabolization rate
😈
Napalm and phlogiston, based
that sec helmet just screams bully me, imma return to sec
The justice helm is exactly what I have been waiting for
THEY ADDED THE SNAIL TO SS14!!
Botany chemistry kit is great QoL for botany. I dont particularly play a lot of botany but i know its a little annoying that you have to take a roundstart trip to chemistry if you want to do mutations
Round start running to chem isn't even optimal, unless you're trying to make subpar mutant plants.
It's best to improve the base plant so you get a 6 produce vulgaris that can be mutated into 6 produce deus, because once you're at deus you can't fix the produce count without a lot of extra work.
That and chemists are not fans of you demanding stuff way too early, especially if you force the issue, that's how you get refused service. This doesn't mean you can't ask, just expect them to make it after they made the meds.
@andrewgreeb916 who gaf about optimal
Welp, hos shotgun is now dumpster trash no point even taking it out the locker
I really really like the Agrichem for botany. Sometimes medbay doesn't have a chemist, or they're stockpiling lots of lifesaving drugs and don't have time to make you the requisite bucket o' mutagen for having fun playing botany. Or, map specifically, it saves you the pain of walking the length of the entire station on Cog because Botany on Cog is on the complete opposite side of Medbay.
I'd say I've been able to use Unstable Mutagen roughly half of the time, and I've only gotten to use stuff like Diethylamine twice. With the Agrichem kit, I should be able to use it every single round. Granted, it doesn't seem like it makes a lot of the stuff, but I think you can make 60 units of Diethylamine and 90 units of Unstable Mutagen. That's enough Mutagen to give Chemistry time to get settled with making their compulsory 15 jugs of medicine before having botany drop a bucket on their desk and point at it meaningfully.
You can even make Left-4-Zed by yourself, though that cuts directly into how much Unstable Mutagen you get to make.
My nightmare of a snail has come true. I'm going to most definitely touch it xD
Having discounts was the most major thing the game was missing. Just for the reason you just listed that it makes you want to try out something that you wouldn't want to use ever. It opens up the game so much when players just have that option
Now you can play the snail game where a slow snail tries to find everyone
Finally alert computer is working and it's much useful because it shows you alarm on map rather than using section names like in ss13
A tech anomaly near the bridge could be interesting
Ah yes. Nerf to the ground one thing in eshotgun it was worth going for. Litaraly worse than enforcer now. Thanks wizden for bringing back Emergency Orders. No fun allowed i guess
You all were whining about how stupidly OP shotgun was... It literally your fault that it was nerfed so shut up.
@@Jedai_Gamesi was whining? I was so fucking happy the it was added. It was one of few good things wizden added in game alongside AI. And now it worthless, wizden really dont know what player want
@@Jedai_Games the people that complain about something being tooo powerful is typically a loud minority
it's still an excellent weapon due to literally having infinite shots so long as you can recharge it, that's like saying that the laser rifle is garbage because it can't out-dps the lecter.
@@the8626 Are you nuts? You really can't compare laser to a rifle. Laser shotgun cannot shot through the wall and does not act like a laser does. Enforcer is objectively better than this laser shotgun because it can self recharge on the spot with the ammo box
i feel sad about the shotgun all it take is EMP to take you down beside the fact that that its a close range gun mean you exchange fire with hostiles
Antimov/overlord boards should be a TC purchase, great idea just weird to have it readily available. Also a custom laws board you could buy as syndie would be crazy
WTF, dude... The main downside of the shotguns is reloading and low capacity. You need to take some other weapon with you to not run out in a critical moment. So they take the one shotgun that can be used as the main weapon and force you to go back to brig to reload. The thing's gonna be left to rot in the locker for the whole round now. They need to map portable chargers to make it remotely useable now and even that's gonna be a hard sell cause of how much space those take.
Well as he said, before it was a threat to the whole station, so a nerf was needed to not make it quite as easy to be a one man army if an antag gets hold of it.
@@catgckool428well we better nerf cap gun now because THAT is a threat to the whole station….this is stupid
@@drakonlegend4452 the captain's laser has a pretty piss-poor overall damage output compared to ballistic weapons, unlike the energy shotgun. and as well, the whole point of the captain's laser is that it's literally on the captain, one of the most important and hardest people to kill who is specifically supposed to be going away from any situation where they could get hurt, whereas the HoS is specifically supposed to be dealing with threats in head-on confrontation.
@@catgckool428 Captain's laser is also a threat to the entire station. And he gets a crack melee weapon and godlike armor on top of it. Nobody wants to nerf those. Besides, one gun isn't going to get an antag to win. Not even china lake can do that.
@@the8626 Yeah, for some reason the guy who's supposed to actually fight gets a gun worse than revs can get from cargo, not even mentioning nukies with their bulldogs, china lakes and L6s. If HoS is a dumbass and died before all of his men did that's not the shotgun's fault. At this point they might aswell remove it and add back the documents. They are at least convenient to carry.
Justice helmet is absolute MENACE.
Can't wait for nuki mice to be discounted to 1 tc and buy them all
But does the tech anomaly trigger Hi-sec doors? What happens if ....by "accident" overcharge close to the armory?
Love the "botany kit" (Now if they can fix a lot of botany areas and kitchen areas, that would be greeeeat), I think it would be great if they added an "starter kit" for every job somehow to introduce new players to stuff.
5:50 WTF dude for what. It was a cool easteregg and nobody was using the box fr anyways because everybody sees the box and immidiatly knows "Hm there is sombody hiding under that"
If you want a RMC round to comentate on, see #1079, it was a hell of a round. 3 hours and 55 minuets. Req began looting the MP quarters because the rest of the ship ran dry. Planetside had 2 almost evacs at the 2 hour mark. Constant siege gameplay.
Love you Lilten
Holy ss13 update, i LOVE it
My first meeting with snail ended me dying from touching it
EI NATH! Snails. Pretty cool
The snoth is the most evil and vile creature to ever exist. While the mothroach is pure and innocent the snoth is vile and sinister. Do not trust a snoth ever.
I am as a RND master will always super crit this anom near chemvend or protolat....
The mutating kit only gives you 5u radium even tho it looks full
Energy shotgun should accept any batteries
aw look at that snai- EI NATH!!!
Does anyone know what this is referencing?
@@TheXello wizard gib spell and the immortal snail that kills you if it touches you
The snail doesn't actually speak if you get it from a ghost raffle, it only does that if you debug control it
So it shouldn't say anything while gibbing someone in a normal round
@@wsketchyis it a natural spawn or?
@@drakonlegend4452 Yeah there's a small chance for snails to be the instant death one I think
Wee-woo hat is easily the best thing. Unless the AI can activate wee-woos? Can we have station wide wee-woo?
Wait, what happens if a borg gets hit by the Super cit Tech Anomaly?
Oh no
Obey the anomaly?
I deliberately stood next to one as a borg when it crit and nothing happened
A lot of cool changes, but all that anybody wants to talk about is the energy shotgun.
LILTEN, you gotta do spectating the recent salamander round, IT WAS ABSURD, even if it wasn’t very nukie centered
I enjoyed the round as hamlet 1:30 in
currently any mob you killed on wreck will also disappear with it when wreck dispawn
Carp bounty is a race to the ATS
who here remembers the train round that had the gibbing snail a couple of days ago?
Atmos thanks you
The lil chemistry crate is great for newbotanists but provided very little value to robust botanists, providing only a half bottle of widely used chem. Give me mutagen round start the chemists will thank
Did they nerf ghetto EVA?
Now even with 2 pieces of winter gear I still take cold damage in space. Sucks.
In the end all comes down to nerfing crew, huh?
What's this? Liltenhead uploaded? REJOICE!!
Lilten, u gotta do the heretic antag for goob station
Can the killer snails even appear in normal games? Or its just low %?
probs admeme
I had one round in salamander, mostly turbo snail that ate most of my plants. It was an admeme event
@@wtfdude1830 basic snails appear, I have seen all varieties in Levi. Its just havent seen snail who gibs people.
But they do have funny bug where they can say last words and it works.
welp lil' ten is dead, hope the new snail channel goes well
I feel like devman watched the movie Turbo
rest in rest secways
weh
ligma
No.