At this point, M. Night should just be paid to come up with premises for a better writer/director to execute. "From the mind of M. Night Shyamalan comes a Christopher Nolan film." Hell yeah!
I totally agree with that lol. The man comes up with great ideas. And we need more of that when it feels like we’re stuck in the age of remakes and unnecessary sequels. But he just can never seem to deliver, execution wise.
At that point you don't need M. Night anymore. Nolan can come up with his own premises just fine. M. Night should just hire a professional screenwriter or multiple and give them the premise and let them develop it without interference. His films would come out much better.
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
@@ButterCookie1984They're talking about how M. Night consistently comes up with great ideas showcased in movie trailers that make you want to see them. But he has genuinely some of the shittiest execution, and one of the worst track records of anyone in the film industry of his stature. Name a household director who is widely known, and who's still working in Hollywood after decades, who fucks up as bad as M. Night has. He's made like 5 great films, and 20 pieces of shit.
@@ButterCookie1984 they’ve been saying it for years. i’m shocked that this guy, who realistically made one good film, is able to crank out horrible films and still keep going.
@@clavis_aureawell he’s actually good at profiting. He’s also rich and produces his own stuff. In addition he has a reputation for being one of the best directors to work for because he’s really nice. Most people, and all fans will say there’s more than one lol
Exactly, his family is his kryptonite : he can't use his killer abilities when they are there, for some reason he's stuck to camouflaging himself as a nice guy, but he can't think straight (and even the camouflage doesn't work that well with them, they're the only ones who see through his lies) Also, he's still hoping he'll be able to cast that whole story away after getting his phone back, and he needs to get them away before doing anything violent or stupid, or they will definitely understand he's the butcher for good. He's still in compartimentalizing mode
Since they also establish he has OCD to some degree, I can see him not wanting to wreck a decent door after the fact. But in the theater it did bug me despite some interesting filmmaking with keeping so much action from the characters only available audibly and some good tension.
You can even see he can't think straight, as you can hear him asking "where's the bathroom master key ?" To his wife ! The dude CAN break doors, manipulate people, open handcuffs with a rotten celery and locate every item, he's the OCD guy who has everything in order but suddenly he NEEDS a key, and HE out of all people asks where the key is ??? It's to show us even his most basic abilities won't work in that situation, he's freaking out. Just like David Dunn can't even take a slap when underwater, when he has emotions Cooper is a 6 foot 5 little boy, unable to plan anything or lie properly. That's the whole POINT of the movie
The sixth sense is a great movie I feel like that film could’ve won Oscars for Toni Collette, Haley Joel Osment, could’ve won a best screenplay or best picture
Kinda like how the Beekeeper film would have been much better if it just stuck to the call centers. Modern movies have a real issue where they just keep going and adding more and more.
Yea it got really weird that she had no security as she left the arena. Nobody whatsoever to back her up. I was like ok this is crazy. And then the bathroom scene like omg he started to lose my interest. Definitely should’ve stayed
SPOILER - The cops knew he was an insanely dangerous psycho killer with 12+ torturous murders under his belt. But they send 2 officers and an old lady FBI profiler into the house to capture him with tasers. Then, once he's assaulted an officer, been zapped 3 times, and is lying face down on the floor they all just stand around looking down at him. No one jumps on him and cuffs him. Good lord!!
Yes! It’s obvious when the Butcher dons a blood red apron, like a butcher would. AND Lady Raven is also a super hero using her specific powers to foil the villian.
I’m sorry but after 25 years we just have to accept the fact that M Night is a literal alien that doesn’t understand actual human interaction. It’s the only logical explanation. No one in his movies ever acts like a real life person.
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
When he reached for the bike at the every end, I was in disbelief because it felt like M Night was fucking with us at that point. Also, the limo scene really took me out when he somehow escapes with.no one seeing it?
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
A better twist would’ve been that there were 2 serial killers at the concert and they weren’t actually after him, he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
More than 50% of his films are GREAT and his first few big movies like Sixth Sense have literally THE most iconic twist endings, so I don't think this statement is accurate at all. It's more accurate to say M Night is literally a HIT or a MISS in terms of execution, but his ideas are usually fresh and unique.
Seems he’s amazing at creating concepts but he’s horrible at execution sometimes. With this movie, he’s literally created an impossible situation and made one man tasked to get out of it. In real life bro would have been got quick, but because that can’t happen yet the thousands of armed guards, and employees, and guest have to be idiots. Which destroys the movie. It’s like watching the world’s greatest escape artist escape a room by breaking through the wall and getting out. It naturally just makes the antagonist looks not as smart as well because he might as well just walk around screaming “I’m the Butcher!” And nobody would do anything. Neat concept, done wrong.
Fun thing is I accidentally saw "The Trap" and "The Watchers" the same day, not knowing Shyamalan's daughter even existed at all. Even not knowing her nepobaby involvement in them, I noticed both of those movies suffered a lot for it.
I can’t believe Im reading this because last night I watched Trap and then I watched The Watchers next lol. Tbh I didn’t like either one. Trap was good in the first act and then fell apart. Watchers was ALRIGHT but I wouldn’t have watched it ever again either.
Cody, I love how Lady Raven was able to communicate with Spencer, go live stream, find his location and text her driver all before a firefighter could get the door open 🤣
Cant wait for "Trap 2"....i´ve heard the plot is, that "The Butcher" is going to the cinema with his daughter watching a 3 hours long movie starring shyamalans daughter.
So basically it will be like that time some film makers tried to catch the zodiac killer by making a movie about him and hope he goes to see it and do handwriting
They do catch him in the second movie....soooo...."Trap 3" takes place in prison, where "The Butcher" sits in his cell...unpacking a gift box from his daughter....with photos, cakes etc in it....and a book with 1500 pages , written by....shyamalans daughter....and "The Butcher" likes to read.
Hartnett was GREAT for what this role needed, but holy hell it was like this was her belated Sweet 16 gift to his daughter. She had no reason having that much screentime
Josh Hartnett's acting in Black Mirror is still one of the best performances I've ever seen him do. Him kicking out the chair at the end still gives me chills. I thought about all of the different ways that it could have played out and they really did choose the most heart wrenching way it could have gone. No sweet revenge. Just two men floating through the vast emptiness of space that have lost everything they have ever cared about.
I told my wife, it felt like a 2 hour music video of his daughter. Josh hartnet was the only bright spot, m nights daughter was very unconvincing as an actress.
It just got really dumb near the end, specifically when Cooper straight up told Lady Raven who he was. I said out loud, ‘Why?!’ He was in the clear; the backstage person literally said, ‘You can use the exit to get to the car.’ Why the hell did he need to tell her he’s the killer? That made no sense, and it literally just went downhill from there. I tried to turn my brain off, but I just couldn’t. Edit: I know he would have been questioned by the cops, but it still doesn’t make sense for him to just straight up tell her who he is. In this movie, he already ran into a bunch of cops, and none of them thought he was the killer. He should have just taken his chances with the police questioning him.
Before he told Raven who he was, he couldn't just simply walk out because there was a whole bunch of cops posted at the exit. The PR lady told Cooper that he would just be questioned by the police for a little bit before he walks out. He had to reveal his identity to Raven and coerce her into telling the cops he's with her, so he could avoid being interrogated by the police and walk out unbothered. But anyway, I agree the script fell apart towards the end for other reasons.
If you pay attention to film as dumb as it is. there's good reason. A pr person said that exit he was going to take was going to be covered up as well. So there's no chance he could leave without being questioned. That's why he told her. Though hear me out and this is very much so dumb thing. If that happens in the way you thought it would. Then movie would been cut short and there was no plot no stakes (even though again script was stupid to begin with) nothing just hey i am leaving through this exit that doesn't have cops covering it good bye and movie over. Like that would be biggest cop out if you think about it more.
Like why is this exit not being covered by cops? Like did cops fuck up and not see the building plans of all possible exits? So yea you got pissed off over something that was at least logical
You clearly turned it off bc there was a logical reason given to us why he couldn’t just walk out the back ?? They were a shit load of cops at the back door
Why don't the cops know who he is if his wife was the one who tipped them off? That's the dumbest part about the whole thing. I've never seen a movie that falls apart this quickly after turning your brain on.
The fact that Chris Stuckmann gave this movie a positive review free of any criticism is the final nail in the coffin for me. I’m SUPER excited for his movie, but if he can’t be honest when he reviews other movies he needs to stop reviewing movies.
@@GwynWilliams-rg8vb you can enjoy a mediocre movie while acknowledging its flaws; especially when reviewing movies is literally your *full time job*. I enjoy tons of REALLY bad movies too, but that doesn’t mean I don’t know they’re bad still.
@@GwynWilliams-rg8vb maybe hearing people speak honestly about a (very obviously) not good movie made me miss the guy who was my favorite movie critic for a decade 🙁
***SPOILER***SPOILER**** ....My big issue was the fact that even if the wife reported the husband just to assure herself that he wasn't The Butcher, what sort of mother puts her kid in potential danger to prove it?
@@CodyLeachYT Oh but it's so much worse, because she left the partial receipt in one of his safe houses, where it's made clear no crimes had taken place, (which is why she still wasn't sure if he was the butcher) this whole multi million dollar sting operation, was predicated on a tip off to a house, that had no evidence inside, except the receipt, and they still went along with it. Instead of just staking out the safe house. So dumb.
Shyamalan is the king of cool concept, bad execution. As messed up as it may seem to say, I just wish he would come up with concepts and let others direct. It's been dud after dud after dud with him to the point where I'm shocked that he's still able to fund and direct moderately high-profile movies. I guess even though he has one of the worst track records in regards to movie reviews, he still is profitable. I thought his career was done after directing the last airbender, but here he is 14 years later still making duds.
Also the FBI profile lady seemed dumb/incompetent. She build this tailored description of the killer and how he’d make an elaborate plan to escape, yet she did not anticipate/check the father and daughter that left with lady raven.
Because simply she thought they were with her. Like she wouldn't double guess herself on that because she is trustworthy and aware of fbi's plan. If she was not in on this plan (lets say that) then she would question why is she escorting a father and daughter out of the concert? Its dumb but somewhat logical but at same time dumb
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
Also why was none of the fbi actively looking at cameras to see this creepy man walking around at multiple points in sometimes remote areas of the stadium? Lol
I don't see what problems could arise from a bunch of uniformed cops setting a trap for a violent serial killer in a concert venue filled with innocent people, most of which are underage girls.
"even if he pulls a fire alarm let no men out"- Haley Mills fbi profiler character. Because there's nothing like civil liability of gross negligence and death, confinement, etc.
They shoulda just called it NepoTrap. It was a bait n switch wannabe launch for another of M Night’s kids. Josh Hartnett’s performance was the only thing watchable in this movie.
The part that ruined it for me was actually the casting and acting of the kidnap victim . Wasn’t scared, wasn’t messy, traumatised or anything. It looked like the director just got his son to play the role. It also doesn’t follow the mo of an actual serial killer profile either. This made the killer seem tame and not scary at all. If instead they cast someone else or tbh, didn’t even show the kid on the phone but you just heard him, that would have been far beter
Did anyone else Laugh out loud at that scene where its just the security footage of spencer being kidnapped and he’s cartoonishly yanked into the back of that van? I was literally having to restrain myself it was soooo uninteionally hilarious 😊
White panel van!!? Seriously, a white panel van open sliding door kidnapping!!? Did he offer the guy some candy or ask him if he wanted to see a puppy too? I facepalmed so hard I almost knocked myself out.
People need to understand the difference between a hook (a serial killer is trapped inside an arena set up as a trap to get him) and a plot twist (the protagonist has been dead all along). Both can be "surprising" and "subversive" but a hook is part of the Act 1 setup and you reveal that to the audience in your blurb/synopsis. Plot twist (delivered at the midpoint, climax, epilogue - sometimes all three in VERY twisty thrillers) are delivered anywhere from Act 2-3 and usually are concealed because they CHANGE the expectation laid down by the setup. Trap is NOT spoiling a plot twist. It's just simply a story that is HIGH CONCEPT and has a HOOK.
Bit like Abigail, her being a child vampire was a hook NOT a twist. But everyone complained the film was spoiled by the trailer, I went in figuring any twists would be the film's specific takes on how vampires work in that universe 🤷♀️
The humor of Trap absolutely landed. The movie goes downhill the moment he takes the singer hostage, which was completely unnecessary. He could have easily escaped. The ONLY info the FBI has is that the killer has a tattoo on his right arm. Daughter is given some fake tattoos ... PROBLEM SOLVED!!!
The way Taylor Singh reacted after The Butcher revealed who he was doesn't make sense. Any normal person would've alerted the cops in the hallway right away.
Old woman: "planning on killing me and stealing my things at night"... Mark Walberg: "Whaaaat, nooooo"...... Funniest line in a movie about plants killing humans. Lol😂😂😂
"There are things happening beyond our understanding." 😂 Mark had a real hard time w/ the absurd direction he was given. U can tell by the way he talks about his experience that he thinks M is a total hack 😂
I would’ve had a twist where the guy he kidnapped was the actual serial killer that he tracked down. Then the rest of the movie is him trying to escape the concert to get back to finish the killer. Kind of a well, I’ve got things going on, but my daughter wants to go to a concert.
I KNEW you were gonna say Signs for the example of intentional M Night humor that lands 😂 the scene where Graham walks in and sees Merrill and the kids wearing tinfoil hats is still hilarious to me
M. Night and his daughter said they discussed the music before even writing the script, and she did write all the songs for the movie. So you’re not wrong about it revolving around her as an artist. 😂 I’m seeing this tomorrow, even though you’re not the only one to say this isn’t so great. 🥴 But I honestly wasn’t expecting anything fantabulous knowing it’s M. Night, and he put his daughter as a centerpiece. I’m just going for my guy, Josh, in all honesty. 😆
The fact that I’m still going to see this trainwreck after hearing nothing but negative reviews is a true testament to how much I love Josh Hartnett and want that man to get his flowers. Woof.
How is it a train wreck. Chris stuckmann gave it a good review. At the end of the day reviews are OTHER PEOPLES opinions. Go see it and make your own. People bashed the Tarot movie. I watched it on Netflix last night and I liked it a lot
@@BoxingFan4Life I watch film reviews to get an idea of whether or not I’m going to like something and if it’ll be worth my coin to see it at the theater. Trap seems to across the board be objectively poorly written with most of the focus being put on M. Night’s daughter. I know myself well enough to know I’m not going to love this movie. But I’m still gonna see it, because like I said, I love Josh Hartnett and am glad to see him in a leading role again.
@@BoxingFan4Life Chris Stuckmann doesn't review movies... He's a kiss ass to the directors because he's a movie maker know. He's the only person that likes this movie.
Was pumped for this movie but it was absolutely terrible. The ONLY saving grace it has is Hartnett's performance as a psychopath, he kills it. But even that doesnt save this disaster
Great point. I purposely avoided almost everything about Trap(not an easy thing to do). Knew about Josh Hartnett, serial killer,indoor stadium blah,blah,blah. I was wondering why,WHY!?!?!? this one girl was featured and she sang soooooooo many songs. After hearing Mr.Leaches review in my car after the movie......oh,.......it was the directors daughter. (While talented......wayyyyyy too much screen time
Thank you for this. After I got hit with Long Covid and I lost my last remaining braincells, I started questioning whether a story is stupid or if it's just me. You've been a big help on that front today. If I behaved like this guy during a major law enforcement operation or tried to mess with a bike while in police custody for ANYTHING, I'd get two in the heart and one in the head. And I'm 5'2 and I wear orthopedic shoes. His plot armor is adamantine.
The legal team of Lady Raven’s music label would never have approved her being apart of something like this. A woman got pushed down the stairs and a venue employee was burned, both by the killer. The liability lawsuits would be ridiculous.
The Stupidest part: If ____ is the one who informed on him than why did they have to set this elaborate bullshit up to catch someone who they technically already know the name of
@@ashleyjohnson9990So they fucking knew their husband was a killer. It's literally exactly the same argument. They wanted their husband to get caught and knew he was a killer. They wanted him to get caught so much in fact that they set up this insanely idiotic breadcrumb trail of bullshit. But they didn't just outright say, it's my husband.
15 minutes of fantastic followed by hour 15 of foolishness! An actual Mom thinks her husband is a killer and let's daughter go to a concert with him after using concert ticket as a clue, doesn't even give authorities his info 😮 Out of the 14 plus inexplicable events of movie that gets me speaking like Scooby-Doo!
Everything that happened during the concert to continually propel him along - the employee flat-out explaining the trap, the police on the radio literally telling everyone exactly what the killer would do so he would know to do something different, etc.. I honestly thought it was going to turn out that this was all in his imagination and there really WASN'T a trap, but his guilty conscious was going to give him away. HAD that been the direction all of those stupid contrivances would have totally been fine.
A perfect summation of this bad bad movie. I went last night for a bad movie experience because MNS is a train wreck. The first half is a "good bad" movie, but then the last half is just an "annoyingly bad bad" movie.
Things just work out for Cooper. Completely bad writing. Oh cops? Secret tunnel and steal their outfit! Oh the car is surrounded? Just wear a new outfit! Arrested? Just pick the lock!
The film was of course intended as a concert movie for Saleka (M. Night's daughter). The real problem was when the story as well as the pace of the film was subordinate to that, which was evident when the audience was forced to listen to complete songs even as Josh was trying to evade the police and FBI. While the original setting was already contrived to the extreme, the third act after they got away was so preposterous that it was actually insulting to the viewers, treating them as if they are all six-year-olds. By the time they got outside, Lady Raven already knew Cooper was the killer. She would identify him to the police and his family would know. Short of killing her or holding her hostage, the only thing left for him is to run. Yet he allowed her to take him home and visit his family. What was he doing - trying to pretend to be good daddy for an additional five minutes? As you said what Lady Raven did made no sense either, and the third act was simply there to let Saleka instead of Josh becoming the focus in the third act.
This movie made me so mad I almost left the theater. So many things were just impossibly stupid. Like is the FBI looking at the cameras? If they were they would see this guy being completely suspicious roaming around the stadium. When Raven had the totally illogical idea to go to the butchers house I was screaming! Why would you do that? It makes no sense to go to his home! Then when she gets there she tells the driver to wait outside. Why? He has a much better chance than you! Which also makes me wonder why a famous popstar has zero security but whatever. Then she steals his phone, goes in the bathroom and does an instagram live stream. Call 911!! Wtf are you doing? Then the ending where they for some reason want to capture him alive. This dude has killed and mutilated 12 people. Shoot him!! Then when he's being carried off to the jail these freaking idiot cops allow his daughter to run pass all of them and hug her dad. What protocol is this? What if he had taken the lil girl hostage? There are over 100 things like this in this movie that is so freaking illogical.
How about the rescued guy, Spencer, still standing shivering in a police blanket on the side of the road waiting for Lady Raven to drive up and give him a hug. 🤣😂🤣.
BRO - *respect* - I just discovered you and I love how you are honest and speaking truth and not just sucking up to M.Night - I’m a new fan and subscriber!!!!
Accurate opening statement. Literally one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Almost walked out because I cared so little about what happened. The acting, script, direction, editing, HUGE plot holes. My wife’s first words after: “nobody will ever convince me that this wasn’t M. Knights way to show off his daughter and sell her music”.
As much as I was like “how the fuck did he just get away” to “okay there’s no way” I still enjoyed the film only because of John’s performance. But the end with him getting out of the cuffs, I don’t think that’s supposed to mean “he’s gonna get free” I think he was actually just testing if he COULD get out. There’s no way he can get out of the armored vehicle and there’s no way the cops won’t shoot him if he tries to fight. Thats also why he’s laughing, because I think he was testing if he could sneak it on and open it and when he did, he gave himself that reassurance that he is still insanely smart and can fool the police at any point, but he knows he’s still caught. So he has a laugh to himself of crazed confidence and achievement
Josh Hartnett was really good and so is the premise, but holy shit, did this movie unravel quick, fast, and in a hurry. Here’s hoping Josh gets a part in a good movie soon.
You forgot to mention how Lady Raven’s fans were able to locate, call the cops, and release a hostage in an undisclosed location in about five minutes.
@@bhillis99The entire story literally makes zero sense dude. The entire plot relies purely on the cops not knowing who the killer is. But the person who tipped the cops off, and wants him to get caught is literally his wife. So she knows who the killer is, but hides that information from the cops to make their job more dangerous, just for shits and giggles I guess.
Honestly I think the high reviews are from Lady Raven fans. There’s no way people truly believe this is a 10/10 film. This movie was borderline childish.
Maaaaan I had a fantastic time last night watching this! That dinner table scene had me on edge! I didn’t even know that singer was his daughter so I didn’t go in with that preconceived opinion on having her in the movie. Josh killlled this role and he absolutely carries it. There are two things that really annoyed me, but overall, I loved it
You have bad taste and that’s okay. The poison was damn near foreshadowed it was so obvious. I actually didn’t know that was his daughter either. But by the end I definitely said “why does he keep zooming in on her face? She cute but not that cute 😭”
Yeah I also didn't know that going in. I presumed the concert scenes showing so much of the singer was to make the concert feel immersive. As if you're the killer dude listening and plotting
So before the cops allowed him to pick up bike, let's not forget in the previous seen he charged at them, fatally injuring one, then charged the other. Did they used the assault riffle they had pointed at him? No, they chose to put it down to taze him.
As I was watching the first half I was predicting that Cooper was in fact not the butcher. The twist would be that he actually caught the butcher (Spencer) and wanted to dispense justice himself for killing one of his loved ones. Still sort of a silly twist, but at least it would have been more entertaining than that second half of the movie.
Thank you for the review ( I didn't know it was an M Night movie) ! I actually got a birthday Cameo from you today from my best friend Trish and it absolutely made my day.
Josh was in the crowd when he was also in the limo. You see it quickly before swat gets there. How’s he take over the limo, n the singer is confused why she’s handcuffed. She would’ve seen him intercept the limo, we saw all them but him get in the limo. His family is outside of the garage, but one shot later there not from his perspective giving her time to exit the car bc he’s out of it. Movie didn’t give any answers to it.
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
Frankly you're very generous with this review. Hartnett was as always very watchable but I also felt 2nd hand awkwardness for him in the ridiculous situations/interactions who was made to act out. His daughter has a beautiful voice but not as strong in acting for such a prominent role.
Yessss!!! Been waiting for this video! Wow I feel like I owe an apology to The Room, because *this* is actually the most illogical movie I’ve ever seen. It’s like everyone in it has never interacted with human beings before! The character decisions… 🤦🏻♂️ It’s like if you were to say “I’m hungry. Should I have chicken or fish for dinner? Actually I’m just gonna eat the plates.” That was everyone in this movie!!!!
Scenes that killed me - THE FRYER SCENE - THE BATHROOM SCENE BC HUH - THE RAVEN LADY TRYING TO TALK TO HIM LIKE HIS MOM - THE END WHY WAS HE LAUGHING LIKE THAT IS HE SERIOUS SINISTER OR SILLY SINSTER -THE MOVIE Things I liked ❤Josh Hartnett ❤
Totally totally totally understand your criticisms. I honestly just had a blast with this because of how quirky and off-putting Josh Hartnett was in this, lmao. Also, this is such weird reasoning but I love the Hitman game franchise and so to have a chunk of this film be Hartnett sneaking around, getting key cards, causing distractions and accidents, and getting past security just really brought out a whole other level of enjoyment to me 😂 I'll tell ya what though, I am super excited for Cuckoo.
I hated how they seemed to be building to something with Jodie and/or her mom and then it just went nowhere, and the only payoff we got was an argument in the crowd that accomplished nothing
The plot thematically ends halfway through the movie. After the final escape idea, the movie is over. Everything in the 3rd acted is forced and illogical.SPOILERS ..... ..... .... .... ..... Once he tells Raven, who he is. The movies over, when he says you can stop and let us out here. You do it...you know who he is, what he looks like, his name, his f**king daughters name, why go to the house and all that. I get you want to save the kid, but. ...... I was really hoping the third ending was going to show that his wife was the actual mastermind and verbally abused jim for being dumb like his mother would. Or at least have Sam Jackson show up and let him out of the police truck.....SOMETHING!!! PINK BIKE AND PIE
....that his wife was the actual mastermind and verbally abused jim for being dumb like his mother would. Oooh I like that. That could have almost saved the movie.
I think that him being quirky and the line delivery was because the man was literally a psychopath and could not fully understand human emotions therefore he came off awakward and over the top with some of the lines on purpose because he is acting like he knows how to be normal when he doesn’t
Slightly hate myself, but I didn't think it was too bad. Evening knowing the ending before watching it. It kept me intrigued. And I liked his daughter 😂
Never in my life have i ever felt violated by hollywood in til i saw this monstrosity turd. My God 2 hours of my life was subjected to the biggest waste of energy frequency and vibration. If u or a loved one suggests to see. Please just run. The end is near and this is proof. Im so traumatized i can not even use proper grammer. I'd rather watch soul plane while being bamboo tortured
I just got back from seeing it myself. I didn't watch your review before seeing the movie but when I first saw it show up in my feed, I was sure I'd come out of it thinking "insulted" was a bit much. You have my sincere apology. "Insulted" is, if anything, a massive understatement. This was not a movie. This was an advertisement for Saleka Shyamalan's music career.
I saw it a few days ago and was gob-smacked at how underwhelming this movie was... Here's my pitch for a better version - pull a From Dusk Til Dawn with the same storyline. He IS a serial killer and they ARE looking for him at this concert, but then half way through, the singer/dancers/stage crew etc reveal they are vampires and turn it in to a huge blood bath by locking the doors to the arena and killing everyone... then Josh becomes the 'good' guy, (similar to George Clooney) trying to get his daughter and others out of there. Easy.
I thought it was terrible as well. The awful dialogue and the weird way M. Night has his actors say it is so odd to me. All of his characters sound like lifeless automatons. Great review and rant!
Zombie is more likeable; he fully embraces the B movie, and it doesn't always work but can be fun most of the time. M Night gets too far up his own a$$ and most of his movies are average at best.
Rob Zombie draws inspiration for his films from 70s exploitation films nowadays we might call them grindhouse films. These films are dirty, grimy, dark and show the absolute worst in human nature. If you are not into those types of movies then you probably will not like anything Rob Zombie puts out. For those of us who like that style which I will admittedly say is very few we're okay with it. As far as m. Night S goes he is far less consistent with his projects. The only thing that they really have in common is there's going to be a plot twist.
@@toddbarts9916 You don't have to remind me of the type of movies that Rob Zombie produces. I've seen House of 1000 Corpses, Lords of Salem, and the 2 Halloween movies he directed as well as a few others. You're wrong about one major thing between M. Night Shyamalan and Rob Zombie though. Neither of them can write an effective film script to save their life
I agree !! This movie would’ve ended when he pulled lady Raven aside in her dressing room to let her know he was the killer and had some stranger named Spence captive… she should’ve yelled for Security. Let him push the button and kill Spence. What does she care?
Even the premise isn't good when you think about it. He could've walked right out of that concert. Without his picture or prints, there's no way they'd have known it was him via a quick interview. Just so much bad writing. The wife wants him in jail so she doesn't just call the police, instead, she endangers her daughter. And there's no way a pop star could see the info she needed that quick using IG live. Streaming to just a few hundred its hard to keep track. Imagine getting 1000 messages at once. And finally, when they let him put on his shirt after they caught him I wanted to tase myself.
And just a gripe about M. Night's ubiquitous cameos. When Alfred Hitchcock made a cameo in his films, I always felt it was just a humorous wink at the audience. When M. Night does it, it's like he's flailing his arms and dancing saying, "Hey, look at me! I'm the director!" And now it looks like it will be a generational thing
Just got back from the theater and all of us thought this movie was absolute trash. I wish I could go back to 6:45 and take the tickets the old couple in the parking lot were giving away for twisters. 😢
Check out my ranking of all 15 M Night films:
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0:51 this part here dude sounds like a nice way of saying "m night always disappoints, yet i keep watching his junk."
Just saying.
At this point, M. Night should just be paid to come up with premises for a better writer/director to execute. "From the mind of M. Night Shyamalan comes a Christopher Nolan film."
Hell yeah!
Big brain. He should be a producer, that would be a good role. Use his own money to fund his ideas made by other people.
I totally agree with that lol. The man comes up with great ideas. And we need more of that when it feels like we’re stuck in the age of remakes and unnecessary sequels.
But he just can never seem to deliver, execution wise.
Yes!!!
At that point you don't need M. Night anymore. Nolan can come up with his own premises just fine. M. Night should just hire a professional screenwriter or multiple and give them the premise and let them develop it without interference. His films would come out much better.
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
Trailer comes out: m night is back
Movie comes out: m night is done
Repeat
Who is saying he is done?
@@ButterCookie1984They're talking about how M. Night consistently comes up with great ideas showcased in movie trailers that make you want to see them. But he has genuinely some of the shittiest execution, and one of the worst track records of anyone in the film industry of his stature.
Name a household director who is widely known, and who's still working in Hollywood after decades, who fucks up as bad as M. Night has. He's made like 5 great films, and 20 pieces of shit.
😂😂😂
@@ButterCookie1984 they’ve been saying it for years. i’m shocked that this guy, who realistically made one good film, is able to crank out horrible films and still keep going.
@@clavis_aureawell he’s actually good at profiting. He’s also rich and produces his own stuff. In addition he has a reputation for being one of the best directors to work for because he’s really nice. Most people, and all fans will say there’s more than one lol
About the killer not smashing through the door is made even more ridiculous when you remember that his character is also a firefighter.
You have to keep the two lives seperate.
Exactly, his family is his kryptonite : he can't use his killer abilities when they are there, for some reason he's stuck to camouflaging himself as a nice guy, but he can't think straight (and even the camouflage doesn't work that well with them, they're the only ones who see through his lies)
Also, he's still hoping he'll be able to cast that whole story away after getting his phone back, and he needs to get them away before doing anything violent or stupid, or they will definitely understand he's the butcher for good. He's still in compartimentalizing mode
Since they also establish he has OCD to some degree, I can see him not wanting to wreck a decent door after the fact. But in the theater it did bug me despite some interesting filmmaking with keeping so much action from the characters only available audibly and some good tension.
You can even see he can't think straight, as you can hear him asking "where's the bathroom master key ?" To his wife !
The dude CAN break doors, manipulate people, open handcuffs with a rotten celery and locate every item, he's the OCD guy who has everything in order but suddenly he NEEDS a key, and HE out of all people asks where the key is ???
It's to show us even his most basic abilities won't work in that situation, he's freaking out. Just like David Dunn can't even take a slap when underwater, when he has emotions Cooper is a 6 foot 5 little boy, unable to plan anything or lie properly. That's the whole POINT of the movie
@JeanVlogDandamme I actually seen Unbreakable last night. Good movie
Its actually frustrating how he has great concepts but never sticks the landing
What about Sixth Sense, Unbreakable and even Split?
@@cometark42 ok maybe not never lol just happens alot to him
@@clarkness77 Absolutely
He's good for about one or two decent films a decade. Somehow, that makes it worse.
The sixth sense is a great movie I feel like that film could’ve won Oscars for Toni Collette, Haley Joel Osment, could’ve won a best screenplay or best picture
The premise was terrific. If the movie had stayed at the concert it would have been so much better.
Kinda like how the Beekeeper film would have been much better if it just stuck to the call centers. Modern movies have a real issue where they just keep going and adding more and more.
Yea it got really weird that she had no security as she left the arena. Nobody whatsoever to back her up. I was like ok this is crazy. And then the bathroom scene like omg he started to lose my interest. Definitely should’ve stayed
I disagree. The dialogue and tension free set up already showed it for what it was. Maybe a better director could have done something with it.
@dcallahan713 I thought it would have been serviceable if it had remained. Not a classic lol
@Muzzlecrowe-li9kt one of My friends noted the lack of security. I attend cons and those celebs even minor ones know the crazies are out.
SPOILER - The cops knew he was an insanely dangerous psycho killer with 12+ torturous murders under his belt. But they send 2 officers and an old lady FBI profiler into the house to capture him with tasers. Then, once he's assaulted an officer, been zapped 3 times, and is lying face down on the floor they all just stand around looking down at him. No one jumps on him and cuffs him. Good lord!!
And this is after they send 5,000 cops to go interview 20,000 concert goers.
To be fair, that is fairly realistic because the dude was white. 😅
I'm black so I'm like tasers??? Wow...Unreal 😂 movie was trash🤮 then they put a shirt on him after... WTF😂
And let him kneel down and take a piece of a bicycle in clear view of all of them at the end. This movie was FILLED with plot holes like that
I was screaming “NO FUCKING WAY!” most of the movie.
The film was called Trap and we still fell for it. 😂
I definitely one of the people who fell for it yesterday 😭😭😭
@@palmmahir3888 lol I didn't.... I didn't go see it 😂
Sucks for those of you who did fall for it 😂
I didn't even know M Night's daughter made music.
Basically. This movie is straight do do
The limousine escape should have been cut entirely
No. It signals that he has supernatural ability- this is in the Unbreakable, Glass, and Split universe.
@@ButterCookie1984 That is what I thought but I think it was just shitty writing ....
Yes! It’s obvious when the Butcher dons a blood red apron, like a butcher would. AND Lady Raven is also a super hero using her specific powers to foil the villian.
I agree. I didn't like the scene. They could have linked the Unbreakable, Glass, and Split universe in a different way.
@@lordswine7962 So all M Knights movies truly are from the unbreakable universe ? I'm not sure this character will tie into that world tho ....
When m.night said this was one of the quickest scripts he’s ever written my red flags went off immediately
Any other acclaimed director, this could be interesting.
With M Night, this was a warning... a threat, almost
@@guiltygage2493 When did he say this?
The script is definitely the weakest aspect
And here i thought that his TLA script was his quickest
The actors sound like AI (early days) wrote the script.
I’m sorry but after 25 years we just have to accept the fact that M Night is a literal alien that doesn’t understand actual human interaction. It’s the only logical explanation. No one in his movies ever acts like a real life person.
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
He's that out of touch.
Honestly, I think he’s probably on the spectrum
100% agree… christopher nolan also suffers from this
M. Night writes every movie like he thinks Wes Anderson is directing.
When he reached for the bike at the every end, I was in disbelief because it felt like M Night was fucking with us at that point. Also, the limo scene really took me out when he somehow escapes with.no one seeing it?
In completely different clothes
Both entirely predictable outcomes too.
Its obvious that he has supernatural abilities. Cooper is not an ordimary guy.
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
I was like wtf they’re just gonna let him pet the bicycle ?!?
A better twist would’ve been that there were 2 serial killers at the concert and they weren’t actually after him, he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
M Night Shyamalan making a great movie is the biggest plot twist ever
More than 50% of his films are GREAT and his first few big movies like Sixth Sense have literally THE most iconic twist endings, so I don't think this statement is accurate at all. It's more accurate to say M Night is literally a HIT or a MISS in terms of execution, but his ideas are usually fresh and unique.
The Sixth Sense was the biggest twist all along
Seems he’s amazing at creating concepts but he’s horrible at execution sometimes. With this movie, he’s literally created an impossible situation and made one man tasked to get out of it. In real life bro would have been got quick, but because that can’t happen yet the thousands of armed guards, and employees, and guest have to be idiots. Which destroys the movie. It’s like watching the world’s greatest escape artist escape a room by breaking through the wall and getting out. It naturally just makes the antagonist looks not as smart as well because he might as well just walk around screaming “I’m the Butcher!” And nobody would do anything. Neat concept, done wrong.
@@shebreathesingold8043 sixth sense,signs and unbreakable are great films, split is a good film, the other 13 are varying degrees of dogshit
@@christopherfrost1820lmao
Fun thing is I accidentally saw "The Trap" and "The Watchers" the same day, not knowing Shyamalan's daughter even existed at all. Even not knowing her nepobaby involvement in them, I noticed both of those movies suffered a lot for it.
I can’t believe Im reading this because last night I watched Trap and then I watched The Watchers next lol. Tbh I didn’t like either one. Trap was good in the first act and then fell apart. Watchers was ALRIGHT but I wouldn’t have watched it ever again either.
Cody, I love how Lady Raven was able to communicate with Spencer, go live stream, find his location and text her driver all before a firefighter could get the door open 🤣
Cant wait for "Trap 2"....i´ve heard the plot is, that "The Butcher" is going to the cinema with his daughter watching a 3 hours long movie starring shyamalans daughter.
So basically it will be like that time some film makers tried to catch the zodiac killer by making a movie about him and hope he goes to see it and do handwriting
They do catch him in the second movie....soooo...."Trap 3" takes place in prison, where "The Butcher" sits in his cell...unpacking a gift box from his daughter....with photos, cakes etc in it....and a book with 1500 pages , written by....shyamalans daughter....and "The Butcher" likes to read.
@@bottnetbottner5366 That sounds dumb but i watch it to see where this may go.
Trap 2: Trap Harder followed by Trap 3 with a Vengeance
Hartnett was GREAT for what this role needed, but holy hell it was like this was her belated Sweet 16 gift to his daughter. She had no reason having that much screentime
Perfectly said
Josh Hartnett's acting in Black Mirror is still one of the best performances I've ever seen him do. Him kicking out the chair at the end still gives me chills. I thought about all of the different ways that it could have played out and they really did choose the most heart wrenching way it could have gone. No sweet revenge. Just two men floating through the vast emptiness of space that have lost everything they have ever cared about.
I told my wife, it felt like a 2 hour music video of his daughter. Josh hartnet was the only bright spot, m nights daughter was very unconvincing as an actress.
Her acting was ok, but she's a talented artist
She gave Sofia Coppola on Godfather III vibes through and through:
Yes! Way too much music. I didn’t need to see all that 😂
I thought she was great
@@mikefobfan101 No. No it wasn't. And no. No she isn't.
It just got really dumb near the end, specifically when Cooper straight up told Lady Raven who he was. I said out loud, ‘Why?!’ He was in the clear; the backstage person literally said, ‘You can use the exit to get to the car.’ Why the hell did he need to tell her he’s the killer? That made no sense, and it literally just went downhill from there. I tried to turn my brain off, but I just couldn’t.
Edit: I know he would have been questioned by the cops, but it still doesn’t make sense for him to just straight up tell her who he is. In this movie, he already ran into a bunch of cops, and none of them thought he was the killer. He should have just taken his chances with the police questioning him.
Before he told Raven who he was, he couldn't just simply walk out because there was a whole bunch of cops posted at the exit. The PR lady told Cooper that he would just be questioned by the police for a little bit before he walks out. He had to reveal his identity to Raven and coerce her into telling the cops he's with her, so he could avoid being interrogated by the police and walk out unbothered. But anyway, I agree the script fell apart towards the end for other reasons.
If you pay attention to film as dumb as it is. there's good reason. A pr person said that exit he was going to take was going to be covered up as well. So there's no chance he could leave without being questioned. That's why he told her.
Though hear me out and this is very much so dumb thing. If that happens in the way you thought it would. Then movie would been cut short and there was no plot no stakes (even though again script was stupid to begin with) nothing just hey i am leaving through this exit that doesn't have cops covering it good bye and movie over. Like that would be biggest cop out if you think about it more.
Like why is this exit not being covered by cops? Like did cops fuck up and not see the building plans of all possible exits? So yea you got pissed off over something that was at least logical
You clearly turned it off bc there was a logical reason given to us why he couldn’t just walk out the back ?? They were a shit load of cops at the back door
Why don't the cops know who he is if his wife was the one who tipped them off? That's the dumbest part about the whole thing. I've never seen a movie that falls apart this quickly after turning your brain on.
The fact that Chris Stuckmann gave this movie a positive review free of any criticism is the final nail in the coffin for me. I’m SUPER excited for his movie, but if he can’t be honest when he reviews other movies he needs to stop reviewing movies.
He should probably stop reviewing then
Maybe he just enjoyed it
@@GwynWilliams-rg8vb you can enjoy a mediocre movie while acknowledging its flaws; especially when reviewing movies is literally your *full time job*. I enjoy tons of REALLY bad movies too, but that doesn’t mean I don’t know they’re bad still.
@@Wraiven22 why worry about it, this isnt even his video lol
@@GwynWilliams-rg8vb maybe hearing people speak honestly about a (very obviously) not good movie made me miss the guy who was my favorite movie critic for a decade 🙁
***SPOILER***SPOILER****
....My big issue was the fact that even if the wife reported the husband just to assure herself that he wasn't The Butcher, what sort of mother puts her kid in potential danger to prove it?
Or doesn’t just make an anonymous call to the cops to get him arrested. No let’s go around our ass to get to our elbow.
@@CodyLeachYT😂 oh man, that is way better than how I put it!
@@CodyLeachYT I love this analogy. If she had been a little more direct, a lot of havoc could have been prevented.
@@CodyLeachYT Oh but it's so much worse, because she left the partial receipt in one of his safe houses, where it's made clear no crimes had taken place, (which is why she still wasn't sure if he was the butcher) this whole multi million dollar sting operation, was predicated on a tip off to a house, that had no evidence inside, except the receipt, and they still went along with it. Instead of just staking out the safe house. So dumb.
Using big words like nepotism 🤦🏿♂️😬@@CodyLeachYT
Shyamalan is the king of cool concept, bad execution. As messed up as it may seem to say, I just wish he would come up with concepts and let others direct. It's been dud after dud after dud with him to the point where I'm shocked that he's still able to fund and direct moderately high-profile movies. I guess even though he has one of the worst track records in regards to movie reviews, he still is profitable. I thought his career was done after directing the last airbender, but here he is 14 years later still making duds.
His whole schpeel became how to bring audiences to a theater and make the money that’s literally the entire formula
Also the FBI profile lady seemed dumb/incompetent. She build this tailored description of the killer and how he’d make an elaborate plan to escape, yet she did not anticipate/check the father and daughter that left with lady raven.
Because simply she thought they were with her. Like she wouldn't double guess herself on that because she is trustworthy and aware of fbi's plan. If she was not in on this plan (lets say that) then she would question why is she escorting a father and daughter out of the concert?
Its dumb but somewhat logical but at same time dumb
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
Also why was none of the fbi actively looking at cameras to see this creepy man walking around at multiple points in sometimes remote areas of the stadium? Lol
The pie scene killed me. It was bad up to that point but, for me, that just threw it right in the dumpster and set the whole thing on fire.
Right!? Plus the foley sound effects of him eating were like 3x the volume.
In that pie scene, the wife actually took a first bite and the villain made sure she did to know that she didn't do anything to the pie.
It didn't bother me.
Genuinely serious, he prob hit ChatGPT to write it
@@nowayjose1313I enjoyed that detail
That FBI trap would be a huge liability issue.
And cost along with why they are doing this? Didn't they learn there lesson from that movie that tried to catch The zodiac killer?
I don't see what problems could arise from a bunch of uniformed cops setting a trap for a violent serial killer in a concert venue filled with innocent people, most of which are underage girls.
@@StrawberryShorty I'm in tears! 😭😭😭😭
I had the same thought although its not like its the first crime movie that had that problem.
"even if he pulls a fire alarm let no men out"- Haley Mills fbi profiler character.
Because there's nothing like civil liability of gross negligence and death, confinement, etc.
They shoulda just called it NepoTrap. It was a bait n switch wannabe launch for another of M Night’s kids. Josh Hartnett’s performance was the only thing watchable in this movie.
The part that ruined it for me was actually the casting and acting of the kidnap victim . Wasn’t scared, wasn’t messy, traumatised or anything. It looked like the director just got his son to play the role. It also doesn’t follow the mo of an actual serial killer profile either. This made the killer seem tame and not scary at all. If instead they cast someone else or tbh, didn’t even show the kid on the phone but you just heard him, that would have been far beter
I just wanna know what the cops were gonna ask
“Sir are you a vicious serial killer? No? Okay have a great day move along”
Did anyone else Laugh out loud at that scene where its just the security footage of spencer being kidnapped and he’s cartoonishly yanked into the back of that van?
I was literally having to restrain myself it was soooo uninteionally hilarious
😊
It's his signature style to make tense moments comical
We laughed a handful of times, and that’s being one of them. Josh’s facial expressions were great, he did well, and most of them were just hilarious.
Whole theatre bust out laughing. Such a shitty movie
@@evandaymon8303 oh! I didnt know that!
White panel van!!? Seriously, a white panel van open sliding door kidnapping!!? Did he offer the guy some candy or ask him if he wanted to see a puppy too? I facepalmed so hard I almost knocked myself out.
People need to understand the difference between a hook (a serial killer is trapped inside an arena set up as a trap to get him) and a plot twist (the protagonist has been dead all along). Both can be "surprising" and "subversive" but a hook is part of the Act 1 setup and you reveal that to the audience in your blurb/synopsis. Plot twist (delivered at the midpoint, climax, epilogue - sometimes all three in VERY twisty thrillers) are delivered anywhere from Act 2-3 and usually are concealed because they CHANGE the expectation laid down by the setup. Trap is NOT spoiling a plot twist. It's just simply a story that is HIGH CONCEPT and has a HOOK.
Agreed. I think a lot of people do not understand the difference.
VERY TRUE!
Bit like Abigail, her being a child vampire was a hook NOT a twist. But everyone complained the film was spoiled by the trailer, I went in figuring any twists would be the film's specific takes on how vampires work in that universe 🤷♀️
Another M for Night Apolgist. The movie is mid at best.
Who was dead? Can you explain?
The humor of Trap absolutely landed. The movie goes downhill the moment he takes the singer hostage, which was completely unnecessary. He could have easily escaped. The ONLY info the FBI has is that the killer has a tattoo on his right arm. Daughter is given some fake tattoos ... PROBLEM SOLVED!!!
Yeah, M Night always comes up with the most intriguing plots; unfortunately, i don't think he's executed any of them well since "Signs".
what was the plot twist there? I forgot!
@@tosomt5419 Water caused a deadly reaction when it came in contact with their skin.
The visit was good.
No, it was that everything came in full circle with the family. The boys asthma, the uncle’s bat skills, the girls water problem…
I liked unbreakable and the visit. They had much better endings imo
The way Taylor Singh reacted after The Butcher revealed who he was doesn't make sense. Any normal person would've alerted the cops in the hallway right away.
Taylor Singh 💀
😂😂😂
Old woman: "planning on killing me and stealing my things at night"...
Mark Walberg: "Whaaaat, nooooo"......
Funniest line in a movie about plants killing humans. Lol😂😂😂
Anytime a Happening reference comes up.... it is a good day
"There are things happening beyond our understanding."
😂 Mark had a real hard time w/ the absurd direction he was given. U can tell by the way he talks about his experience that he thinks M is a total hack 😂
I would’ve had a twist where the guy he kidnapped was the actual serial killer that he tracked down. Then the rest of the movie is him trying to escape the concert to get back to finish the killer. Kind of a well, I’ve got things going on, but my daughter wants to go to a concert.
When they made the serial killer an incompetent idiot by the end, I become so frustrated.
That made me mad to. Like he is a serial killer. But now a singer is outsmarting him?
@ScottSullivanTV the killer was put in a bad situation because it was front of his family. This is actually very realistic.
@@nowayjose1313😂😂😂
@Evan-k Great debate there. Care to contradict or do you just believe it wouldn't happen because it was directed by someone specific?
@@nowayjose1313 you're defending a M. Night movie, I've already won the "debate"
I KNEW you were gonna say Signs for the example of intentional M Night humor that lands 😂 the scene where Graham walks in and sees Merrill and the kids wearing tinfoil hats is still hilarious to me
M. Night and his daughter said they discussed the music before even writing the script, and she did write all the songs for the movie. So you’re not wrong about it revolving around her as an artist. 😂 I’m seeing this tomorrow, even though you’re not the only one to say this isn’t so great. 🥴 But I honestly wasn’t expecting anything fantabulous knowing it’s M. Night, and he put his daughter as a centerpiece. I’m just going for my guy, Josh, in all honesty. 😆
The fact that I’m still going to see this trainwreck after hearing nothing but negative reviews is a true testament to how much I love Josh Hartnett and want that man to get his flowers. Woof.
How is it a train wreck. Chris stuckmann gave it a good review. At the end of the day reviews are OTHER PEOPLES opinions. Go see it and make your own. People bashed the Tarot movie. I watched it on Netflix last night and I liked it a lot
@@BoxingFan4Life I watch film reviews to get an idea of whether or not I’m going to like something and if it’ll be worth my coin to see it at the theater. Trap seems to across the board be objectively poorly written with most of the focus being put on M. Night’s daughter. I know myself well enough to know I’m not going to love this movie. But I’m still gonna see it, because like I said, I love Josh Hartnett and am glad to see him in a leading role again.
If you like suffering, this will do it for you
@@BoxingFan4LifeChris Stuckmann is a lost cause.
@@BoxingFan4Life Chris Stuckmann doesn't review movies... He's a kiss ass to the directors because he's a movie maker know. He's the only person that likes this movie.
Was pumped for this movie but it was absolutely terrible. The ONLY saving grace it has is Hartnett's performance as a psychopath, he kills it. But even that doesnt save this disaster
Josh Hartnett is a fantastic fuggin’ actor. 30 Days of Night still a stone cold banger!
Best vampire movie ever besides underworld lol. Also he’s easy af on the eyes
His brief scenes in Sin City.
I only like the first Underworld film.
Hartnett should be in betrer roles.
30 days of night is one of the best vampire movies ever !!!
@@catherinebreitfeller669
It definetly is.
Those cops on the roof were surprisingly eager giving detaiks to a fast food worker..
The actual m. night shyamalan twist is that he "trapped' you into watching his daughter in a bullshit music video movie.
Great point. I purposely avoided almost everything about Trap(not an easy thing to do).
Knew about Josh Hartnett, serial killer,indoor stadium blah,blah,blah.
I was wondering why,WHY!?!?!? this one girl was featured and she sang soooooooo many songs. After hearing Mr.Leaches review in my car after the movie......oh,.......it was the directors daughter.
(While talented......wayyyyyy too much screen time
Once I heard his daughter was the singer I knew it was just a vanity project to get her career going.
The real trap is the friends we made along the way.
I was truly convinced that lady raven was going to assemble the avengers with kid cudi and Russ to save his wife at the end of the movie
Thank you for this. After I got hit with Long Covid and I lost my last remaining braincells, I started questioning whether a story is stupid or if it's just me. You've been a big help on that front today.
If I behaved like this guy during a major law enforcement operation or tried to mess with a bike while in police custody for ANYTHING, I'd get two in the heart and one in the head. And I'm 5'2 and I wear orthopedic shoes. His plot armor is adamantine.
The legal team of Lady Raven’s music label would never have approved her being apart of something like this. A woman got pushed down the stairs and a venue employee was burned, both by the killer. The liability lawsuits would be ridiculous.
The Stupidest part: If ____ is the one who informed on him than why did they have to set this elaborate bullshit up to catch someone who they technically already know the name of
_____ didn’t tell the police _____ just left a clue to lead them to the concert
@@ashleyjohnson9990 but i thought the cops set up the entire concert to trap him? cant have it both ways
@christopherfrost1820 yes the cops set up the trap but only because the ticket stub was planted
@@christopherfrost1820yeah they didnt know his name. They just knew that the suspected killer would be there
@@ashleyjohnson9990So they fucking knew their husband was a killer. It's literally exactly the same argument. They wanted their husband to get caught and knew he was a killer. They wanted him to get caught so much in fact that they set up this insanely idiotic breadcrumb trail of bullshit.
But they didn't just outright say, it's my husband.
Dude yes this man can MAKE a trailer. I'm always so excited to see his next movie but then bam. I'm blown right back into reality
15 minutes of fantastic followed by hour 15 of foolishness! An actual Mom thinks her husband is a killer and let's daughter go to a concert with him after using concert ticket as a clue, doesn't even give authorities his info 😮 Out of the 14 plus inexplicable events of movie that gets me speaking like Scooby-Doo!
Scooby doo is a great way to describe this film,
Lol.
If it wasn't for those meddling kids I would have gotten away with it. Lol. Awful, awful film.
@Scottymol Wooow you nailed that one 👏 😃😄🤣 Movie had me talking like Scooby-Doo! Rut, Raggy!!!
Everything that happened during the concert to continually propel him along - the employee flat-out explaining the trap, the police on the radio literally telling everyone exactly what the killer would do so he would know to do something different, etc.. I honestly thought it was going to turn out that this was all in his imagination and there really WASN'T a trap, but his guilty conscious was going to give him away. HAD that been the direction all of those stupid contrivances would have totally been fine.
A perfect summation of this bad bad movie. I went last night for a bad movie experience because MNS is a train wreck. The first half is a "good bad" movie, but then the last half is just an "annoyingly bad bad" movie.
Things just work out for Cooper. Completely bad writing. Oh cops? Secret tunnel and steal their outfit! Oh the car is surrounded? Just wear a new outfit! Arrested? Just pick the lock!
The film was of course intended as a concert movie for Saleka (M. Night's daughter). The real problem was when the story as well as the pace of the film was subordinate to that, which was evident when the audience was forced to listen to complete songs even as Josh was trying to evade the police and FBI. While the original setting was already contrived to the extreme, the third act after they got away was so preposterous that it was actually insulting to the viewers, treating them as if they are all six-year-olds. By the time they got outside, Lady Raven already knew Cooper was the killer. She would identify him to the police and his family would know. Short of killing her or holding her hostage, the only thing left for him is to run. Yet he allowed her to take him home and visit his family. What was he doing - trying to pretend to be good daddy for an additional five minutes? As you said what Lady Raven did made no sense either, and the third act was simply there to let Saleka instead of Josh becoming the focus in the third act.
This movie made me so mad I almost left the theater. So many things were just impossibly stupid. Like is the FBI looking at the cameras? If they were they would see this guy being completely suspicious roaming around the stadium. When Raven had the totally illogical idea to go to the butchers house I was screaming! Why would you do that? It makes no sense to go to his home! Then when she gets there she tells the driver to wait outside. Why? He has a much better chance than you! Which also makes me wonder why a famous popstar has zero security but whatever. Then she steals his phone, goes in the bathroom and does an instagram live stream. Call 911!! Wtf are you doing? Then the ending where they for some reason want to capture him alive. This dude has killed and mutilated 12 people. Shoot him!! Then when he's being carried off to the jail these freaking idiot cops allow his daughter to run pass all of them and hug her dad. What protocol is this? What if he had taken the lil girl hostage? There are over 100 things like this in this movie that is so freaking illogical.
How about the rescued guy, Spencer, still standing shivering in a police blanket on the side of the road waiting for Lady Raven to drive up and give him a hug. 🤣😂🤣.
BRO - *respect* - I just discovered you and I love how you are honest and speaking truth and not just sucking up to M.Night - I’m a new fan and subscriber!!!!
Cody is very real with his opinions. Ive been watching his channel a long time. If you like horror and/or want honest reviews, hes that dude
Accurate opening statement. Literally one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Almost walked out because I cared so little about what happened. The acting, script, direction, editing, HUGE plot holes. My wife’s first words after: “nobody will ever convince me that this wasn’t M. Knights way to show off his daughter and sell her music”.
As much as I was like “how the fuck did he just get away” to “okay there’s no way” I still enjoyed the film only because of John’s performance. But the end with him getting out of the cuffs, I don’t think that’s supposed to mean “he’s gonna get free” I think he was actually just testing if he COULD get out. There’s no way he can get out of the armored vehicle and there’s no way the cops won’t shoot him if he tries to fight. Thats also why he’s laughing, because I think he was testing if he could sneak it on and open it and when he did, he gave himself that reassurance that he is still insanely smart and can fool the police at any point, but he knows he’s still caught. So he has a laugh to himself of crazed confidence and achievement
Josh Hartnett was really good and so is the premise, but holy shit, did this movie unravel quick, fast, and in a hurry. Here’s hoping Josh gets a part in a good movie soon.
You forgot to mention how Lady Raven’s fans were able to locate, call the cops, and release a hostage in an undisclosed location in about five minutes.
As a Millennial female, I am seeing this even if it's the worst film ever, because of Josh Hartnett 😂😂😂
@@knittermh it’s not too bad. I enjoyed it. Some are making it out to be very bad. And it isn’t.
@@bhillis99The entire story literally makes zero sense dude. The entire plot relies purely on the cops not knowing who the killer is. But the person who tipped the cops off, and wants him to get caught is literally his wife. So she knows who the killer is, but hides that information from the cops to make their job more dangerous, just for shits and giggles I guess.
lol,, he takes off his shirt
@@Cassie00111sold😂
Girl same ❤😊
Honestly I think the high reviews are from Lady Raven fans. There’s no way people truly believe this is a 10/10 film. This movie was borderline childish.
Maaaaan I had a fantastic time last night watching this! That dinner table scene had me on edge! I didn’t even know that singer was his daughter so I didn’t go in with that preconceived opinion on having her in the movie. Josh killlled this role and he absolutely carries it. There are two things that really annoyed me, but overall, I loved it
100% agreed. It was very enjoyable.
What are those 2 annoying things?
You have bad taste and that’s okay. The poison was damn near foreshadowed it was so obvious.
I actually didn’t know that was his daughter either. But by the end I definitely said “why does he keep zooming in on her face? She cute but not that cute 😭”
Yeah I also didn't know that going in. I presumed the concert scenes showing so much of the singer was to make the concert feel immersive. As if you're the killer dude listening and plotting
Same. It's not that deep, it's just fun
Hear me out. M. Night Shyamalan is still a brand name and any one of his movies is a big event when it comes out. Still a damn good bet.
Honestly Josh Hartnett makes it completely worthwhile, he managed to make me disregard all the flaws
So before the cops allowed him to pick up bike, let's not forget in the previous seen he charged at them, fatally injuring one, then charged the other. Did they used the assault riffle they had pointed at him? No, they chose to put it down to taze him.
I stopped watching M Night movies many years ago. He’s terrible.
As I was watching the first half I was predicting that Cooper was in fact not the butcher. The twist would be that he actually caught the butcher (Spencer) and wanted to dispense justice himself for killing one of his loved ones. Still sort of a silly twist, but at least it would have been more entertaining than that second half of the movie.
Thank you for the review ( I didn't know it was an M Night movie) ! I actually got a birthday Cameo from you today from my best friend Trish and it absolutely made my day.
Josh was in the crowd when he was also in the limo. You see it quickly before swat gets there. How’s he take over the limo, n the singer is confused why she’s handcuffed. She would’ve seen him intercept the limo, we saw all them but him get in the limo. His family is outside of the garage, but one shot later there not from his perspective giving her time to exit the car bc he’s out of it. Movie didn’t give any answers to it.
It's crazy to me that anyone anticipates a M Night film anymore.
His whole formula became how to get audiences to come to the theater and get the money
F yall dumbave that cnt recognize ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE THIS YEAR AND TOP TEN SERIAL KILLER of all time...alot of and great suspension..MF here crying like a lil gal cuz they r hating Niggt hooking yp his kids like they wish they dad would've or could've done for them..LOOK AT HIS WEIGHT LOL...loser!
especially after making a whole movie just to promote his daughters music and lack of acting abilities.
Frankly you're very generous with this review. Hartnett was as always very watchable but I also felt 2nd hand awkwardness for him in the ridiculous situations/interactions who was made to act out. His daughter has a beautiful voice but not as strong in acting for such a prominent role.
Josh Hartnett was my favorite part of this film. The story is bleh but it was fun. His performance in my opinion saved this movie for me.
I'd watch it again because of him
He’s so charismatic
Law enforcement could’ve saved all their time by having the ticket scanner asking him to go to will call because he was chosen for ticket upgrades.
Yessss!!! Been waiting for this video! Wow I feel like I owe an apology to The Room, because *this* is actually the most illogical movie I’ve ever seen. It’s like everyone in it has never interacted with human beings before! The character decisions… 🤦🏻♂️ It’s like if you were to say “I’m hungry. Should I have chicken or fish for dinner? Actually I’m just gonna eat the plates.” That was everyone in this movie!!!!
Dude I was rolling my eyes left and right
The Room with Brie Larson? I don’t like her but she is amazing in that movie. It’s based off a real case. Tragic as hell
@@caleighhraeeNo. The Tommy Wiseau movie that the disaster artist is based on ( the making of)
This is the first movie I’ve considered walking out of since the the fountain over 15 years ago. Absolute garbage
@caleighhraee that Brie Larson film is just called 'Room', the film 'The Room' was Tommy Wiseau lol
Scenes that killed me
- THE FRYER SCENE
- THE BATHROOM SCENE BC HUH
- THE RAVEN LADY TRYING TO TALK TO HIM LIKE HIS MOM
- THE END WHY WAS HE LAUGHING LIKE THAT IS HE SERIOUS SINISTER OR SILLY SINSTER
-THE MOVIE
Things I liked
❤Josh Hartnett ❤
Totally totally totally understand your criticisms. I honestly just had a blast with this because of how quirky and off-putting Josh Hartnett was in this, lmao. Also, this is such weird reasoning but I love the Hitman game franchise and so to have a chunk of this film be Hartnett sneaking around, getting key cards, causing distractions and accidents, and getting past security just really brought out a whole other level of enjoyment to me 😂
I'll tell ya what though, I am super excited for Cuckoo.
I’m convinced that when he found out about “trap” music, he was like “but what if a trap concert was a TRAP concert “
I thought you were about to blow a kiss when you first mentioned how you feel about Josh Hartnett! lol.
😂
I hated how they seemed to be building to something with Jodie and/or her mom and then it just went nowhere, and the only payoff we got was an argument in the crowd that accomplished nothing
The plot thematically ends halfway through the movie. After the final escape idea, the movie is over. Everything in the 3rd acted is forced and illogical.SPOILERS
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Once he tells Raven, who he is. The movies over, when he says you can stop and let us out here. You do it...you know who he is, what he looks like, his name, his f**king daughters name, why go to the house and all that. I get you want to save the kid, but. ......
I was really hoping the third ending was going to show that his wife was the actual mastermind and verbally abused jim for being dumb like his mother would.
Or at least have Sam Jackson show up and let him out of the police truck.....SOMETHING!!! PINK BIKE AND PIE
Your idea is 1000% better than what the movie is.
@@Circurose TBH, part of the fun of bad movies is getting to correct them. I love hearing people's theories on how movies should have ended.
....that his wife was the actual mastermind and verbally abused jim for being dumb like his mother would.
Oooh I like that. That could have almost saved the movie.
I think that him being quirky and the line delivery was because the man was literally a psychopath and could not fully understand human emotions therefore he came off awakward and over the top with some of the lines on purpose because he is acting like he knows how to be normal when he doesn’t
Bingo! You got it. We did too!
Josh Hartnett should get way more recognition from Penny Dreadful.
Slightly hate myself, but I didn't think it was too bad. Evening knowing the ending before watching it. It kept me intrigued. And I liked his daughter 😂
I acknowledge all of the flaws of the movie, but I still had a good time. Respect your opinion though!
It was awful!! It’s so dumb. It’s like “show don’t tell” film school 101. None makes sense. 🫤🫤
@@suzyq3771 Well I guess everyone has a different way of looking at it, that's good
Never in my life have i ever felt violated by hollywood in til i saw this monstrosity turd. My God 2 hours of my life was subjected to the biggest waste of energy frequency and vibration. If u or a loved one suggests to see. Please just run. The end is near and this is proof. Im so traumatized i can not even use proper grammer. I'd rather watch soul plane while being bamboo tortured
Man you’re cranking them out !
I’m going to bed but saved a window for the AM. Gonna listen with some breakfast ❤️
I just got back from seeing it myself. I didn't watch your review before seeing the movie but when I first saw it show up in my feed, I was sure I'd come out of it thinking "insulted" was a bit much.
You have my sincere apology. "Insulted" is, if anything, a massive understatement. This was not a movie. This was an advertisement for Saleka Shyamalan's music career.
I saw it a few days ago and was gob-smacked at how underwhelming this movie was...
Here's my pitch for a better version - pull a From Dusk Til Dawn with the same storyline.
He IS a serial killer and they ARE looking for him at this concert, but then half way through, the singer/dancers/stage crew etc reveal they are vampires and turn it in to a huge blood bath by locking the doors to the arena and killing everyone... then Josh becomes the 'good' guy, (similar to George Clooney) trying to get his daughter and others out of there.
Easy.
I thought it was terrible as well. The awful dialogue and the weird way M. Night has his actors say it is so odd to me. All of his characters sound like lifeless automatons. Great review and rant!
I guess M. Night Shyamalan and Rob Zombie have a lot in common
I think Zombie is 7/7. 😅He is one of my favourite film makers.
@@PawsomePalsPetService Yeah, well I'm pretty sure Cody would disagree with you
Zombie is more likeable; he fully embraces the B movie, and it doesn't always work but can be fun most of the time. M Night gets too far up his own a$$ and most of his movies are average at best.
Rob Zombie draws inspiration for his films from 70s exploitation films nowadays we might call them grindhouse films. These films are dirty, grimy, dark and show the absolute worst in human nature. If you are not into those types of movies then you probably will not like anything Rob Zombie puts out. For those of us who like that style which I will admittedly say is very few we're okay with it. As far as m. Night S goes he is far less consistent with his projects. The only thing that they really have in common is there's going to be a plot twist.
@@toddbarts9916 You don't have to remind me of the type of movies that Rob Zombie produces. I've seen House of 1000 Corpses, Lords of Salem, and the 2 Halloween movies he directed as well as a few others. You're wrong about one major thing between M. Night Shyamalan and Rob Zombie though. Neither of them can write an effective film script to save their life
I agree !! This movie would’ve ended when he pulled lady Raven aside in her dressing room to let her know he was the killer and had some stranger named Spence captive… she should’ve yelled for Security. Let him push the button and kill Spence. What does she care?
Cody, can we expect an updated M. Night Shyamalan ranking. You did one when Old released, but it’d be nice for an update!
Sunday!
Stop with the ranking shit it's a waste
@christopherrogiero458 ill knock you out
@@christopherrogiero458It’s Cody’s channel. He can do whatever the hell he wants. You don’t like it? Then don’t watch it. It’s that simple.
@@christopherrogiero458who shit in your cereal?
Even the premise isn't good when you think about it.
He could've walked right out of that concert. Without his picture or prints, there's no way they'd have known it was him via a quick interview.
Just so much bad writing. The wife wants him in jail so she doesn't just call the police, instead, she endangers her daughter.
And there's no way a pop star could see the info she needed that quick using IG live. Streaming to just a few hundred its hard to keep track. Imagine getting 1000 messages at once.
And finally, when they let him put on his shirt after they caught him I wanted to tase myself.
Bro needs to stop making movies … you had like 2 good movies bro it’s over .
nah yeah. always a let down. signs and six sense is legit the only real good ones
@@overcomingwithin Unbreakable and Split are pretty good too
No Sith Sense Signs Unbreakable Split Glass The Visit are all enjoyable and not terrible. But when M Night is bad he's really bad lol.
He’s definitely 70% good and 30% bad
Nah he’s made classics. Let bro cook
And just a gripe about M. Night's ubiquitous cameos. When Alfred Hitchcock made a cameo in his films, I always felt it was just a humorous wink at the audience. When M. Night does it, it's like he's flailing his arms and dancing saying, "Hey, look at me! I'm the director!" And now it looks like it will be a generational thing
Even though you just did a " I hate spoiler" review yesterday, I am very like minded of you and just wanna see this movie on account of your review!
Just got back from the theater and all of us thought this movie was absolute trash. I wish I could go back to 6:45 and take the tickets the old couple in the parking lot were giving away for twisters. 😢