I think your suspicions are correct Mick. It is a shame because the same amount of work goes into fixing it. Nice work around with the resistor though, did you try different values to see what worked best or did you use calculations to pick the resistor?
Thanks Vince! 👍I tried a few different ones first, I think I tried 100k, then a 47k and worked down to around 22k. 10k was too much. Seems I just hit 4k subs today.
@@Mymatevince No lol, just trial and error :). I know you have repaired a few different controllers. Have you replaced the stick before? Just wondering if you had any problems like this?
@@BuyitFixitI have replaced them, I had a different problem where the stick went to 100% really quick, about half way through the travel. I was told in the comments that it was because of using cheap replacements. Stuck an Alps in there (genuine) and it was perfect. I think the quality control isn't there on the cheap/fake ones. Carbon tracks are probably not applied with the same amount of carbon on each potentiometer etc. Most people wouldn't notice in gameplay, but easy to see on the gamepad testers 👍
That was pretty much my thoughts. I see your up early as usual 😂😂. My wife is currently bottle feeding 2 lambs in the front room, that time of year 😂😂😂
Nice fix with the resistor, if they aren't copy products they must be assembly line rejects, I hope they have a better quality control than that. How is the weather station working
Thanks Morten. Yes the weather station is working great! I looked at it around the time of that rain you might of heard on the video and it was saying 'it's raining cats and dogs' again lol. Makes me chuckle for some reason 😂😂😂
Interesting fix. It's a lot of work to replace these parts, so it certainly would be better, if the replacement parts were good and not fake ones :) Recently had to clean my Playstation 1 Dual Shock controller button contacts as Start button refused to work at all. Simpler construction, but of course with age (mine is from 1999), always risk of damage because of possibly brittle plastic parts. Got lucky though, no damage and the controller works fine again :)
On the eBay listing, the one in the photo clearly was stamped ALPS, but although the shot was brief, I didn't see ALPS stamped on the new ones you received.
Hi Steve, yes they did have apps stamped on them, but the logo didn't look quite as clear / deep as the ones I removed hence me thinking possible fakes.
@@BuyitFixiti have the same issue but for a PS4 controller, they also have ALPS stamped on them but not as clear as the original had them, one way i know to spot fakes is the resistors have very large "hooks", but the replacements i bought look in every way like an original, the things even have a number in the blue plastic under the potentiometer, just like the original ones
Sounds similar to my experience. I ended up ordering some from Digikey I think it was as I knew they wouldn't be fakes. They were a different colour and I had to remove some plastic pegs from the bottom but they have all worked OK so far.
Well done, using resistors, not sure if there are trimming resistors onboard. Most 'cheap' replacements seem to be fakes (also see WalterWolf Gaming). A real ALPS will be at least £6 each.
Older video but i dont think you got counterfeit alps, just the wrong resistance value alps. Xbox needs 10kohm but you were probably sent 2.1kohm or 2.3kohm ps4 alps.
Nice video. But not a proper teardown before he tried to get the joystick predominaters out. I was omg he is going to melt a cable. Definitely needed to do research before attempting the fix. The left and bottom pads is what needed to replaced only as they pop off by using prying tool. Desoderimg and resodering was just an extra step.
Thanks Shely, it wasn't meant to be a proper tear down. Yes you can just change the potentiometers on the joysticks but I wanted to replace the whole joystick assembly as the thumbstick button could also be worn and cause problems further down the line. Not the most interesting repair compared to some of the other stuff I've done such as repairing a FLIR infrared camera, or a medical ultrasound scanner,
I didn't expect the inside to contain multiple PCBs stacked onto each other. Edit: I would like to see how it looks in the software if you try to do a small circle instead of using the whole range. I bought N64-style USB controllers, and their small circles look like an exaggerated ace of diamonds, which messes up aiming. I expect it to be a problem with the electronics. However, they may compensate for non-existent nonlinearities. Then again, I wonder how they can mess that up. Unfortunately, I guess a fix for the N64 controllers involves a µController, which maps diagonal movement to new positions while not touching the vertical and horizontal axis.
@@BuyitFixit Wow, thank you :). I didn't know that there were specific tests. I should document what I actually observed. The test only includes the circle at the full range or also small circles? For N64, the full range might have looked worse, too. But for half range, the whole thing was scaled down and massively skewed. So much that I would almost talk rather about a cross than about an ace of diamonds.
@@BuyitFixit If it is not too much work, I would be really interested. As I said, I don't expect them to show that, but I would be curious. If they don't show that, it might be possible to just replace the electronics of those N64-Style controllers. Most of the electronics in there are for wireless capabilities, I guess?
@@maxmustermann2596 I'm not 100%, I thought the N64 were wired? Or am I getting mixed up with game cube? I didn't really have those consoles back in the day. EDIT: Sorry I just re read what you typed, USB type N64. I don't think I've came across those before.
I don't think "literally" and "zero" mean what you think they mean. The problem with lifting the label is damaging the edge and the adhesive, where it doesn't stick back down properly. That's my pet hate. I sometimes cut out the circle of the sticker neatly.
To lift label corner neatly and it resticks every time here is my go to. get prying tool or tooth pick, nudge it slowly a bit at a time then with tweezers pull enough up so u can get to screw. Peel it back down and it looks like no one has been inside the controller.
@@ShelyMB this is pretty much my goto. I will sometimes put the hot air on 80 with no nozzle and literally wave it a second or 2 and it helps the adhesive loosen a little
I think your suspicions are correct Mick. It is a shame because the same amount of work goes into fixing it. Nice work around with the resistor though, did you try different values to see what worked best or did you use calculations to pick the resistor?
Thanks Vince! 👍I tried a few different ones first, I think I tried 100k, then a 47k and worked down to around 22k. 10k was too much. Seems I just hit 4k subs today.
@@BuyitFixit Thanks Mick, I was wondering if you used some fancy formula 😂 Congrats on 4K subs!
@@Mymatevince No lol, just trial and error :). I know you have repaired a few different controllers. Have you replaced the stick before? Just wondering if you had any problems like this?
@@BuyitFixitI have replaced them, I had a different problem where the stick went to 100% really quick, about half way through the travel. I was told in the comments that it was because of using cheap replacements. Stuck an Alps in there (genuine) and it was perfect. I think the quality control isn't there on the cheap/fake ones. Carbon tracks are probably not applied with the same amount of carbon on each potentiometer etc. Most people wouldn't notice in gameplay, but easy to see on the gamepad testers 👍
That was pretty much my thoughts. I see your up early as usual 😂😂. My wife is currently bottle feeding 2 lambs in the front room, that time of year 😂😂😂
Read my mind with resister trick , good fix 👍👍👍
Thanks G!👍
Nice fix with the resistor, if they aren't copy products they must be assembly line rejects, I hope they have a better quality control than that. How is the weather station working
Thanks Morten. Yes the weather station is working great! I looked at it around the time of that rain you might of heard on the video and it was saying 'it's raining cats and dogs' again lol. Makes me chuckle for some reason 😂😂😂
Interesting fix. It's a lot of work to replace these parts, so it certainly would be better, if the replacement parts were good and not fake ones :)
Recently had to clean my Playstation 1 Dual Shock controller button contacts as Start button refused to work at all. Simpler construction, but of course with age (mine is from 1999), always risk of damage because of possibly brittle plastic parts. Got lucky though, no damage and the controller works fine again :)
Thanks Mr JSV, and great news you managed to fix your controller too! 👍
On the eBay listing, the one in the photo clearly was stamped ALPS, but although the shot was brief, I didn't see ALPS stamped on the new ones you received.
Hi Steve, yes they did have apps stamped on them, but the logo didn't look quite as clear / deep as the ones I removed hence me thinking possible fakes.
@@BuyitFixiti have the same issue but for a PS4 controller, they also have ALPS stamped on them but not as clear as the original had them, one way i know to spot fakes is the resistors have very large "hooks", but the replacements i bought look in every way like an original, the things even have a number in the blue plastic under the potentiometer, just like the original ones
Sounds similar to my experience. I ended up ordering some from Digikey I think it was as I knew they wouldn't be fakes. They were a different colour and I had to remove some plastic pegs from the bottom but they have all worked OK so far.
Well done, using resistors, not sure if there are trimming resistors onboard. Most 'cheap' replacements seem to be fakes (also see WalterWolf Gaming). A real ALPS will be at least £6 each.
Thanks Ralph. I'd rather have a part that is going to work as it should. I'll check that out as I've bought a job lot of 3 more controllers from Ebay.
@@BuyitFixit Mouser appears to stock them (£2.93 each), assuming you have an account. Needless to say, triple check everything before purchase.
@@ralphj4012 Thanks Ralph 👍
Lots of work there.
Yeah.. I ended up winning a lot of 3 on Ebay too.. lol.
Older video but i dont think you got counterfeit alps, just the wrong resistance value alps. Xbox needs 10kohm but you were probably sent 2.1kohm or 2.3kohm ps4 alps.
I'm fairly sure I checked the resistance and they were 10K when I measured them.
Nice video. But not a proper teardown before he tried to get the joystick predominaters out. I was omg he is going to melt a cable. Definitely needed to do research before attempting the fix. The left and bottom pads is what needed to replaced only as they pop off by using prying tool. Desoderimg and resodering was just an extra step.
Thanks Shely, it wasn't meant to be a proper tear down. Yes you can just change the potentiometers on the joysticks but I wanted to replace the whole joystick assembly as the thumbstick button could also be worn and cause problems further down the line. Not the most interesting repair compared to some of the other stuff I've done such as repairing a FLIR infrared camera, or a medical ultrasound scanner,
There also is a calibration software you can use to fix that
Yes, but unfortunately only on PC. If you use it on the Xbox like I do, there is no way to calibrate it.
I didn't expect the inside to contain multiple PCBs stacked onto each other.
Edit: I would like to see how it looks in the software if you try to do a small circle instead of using the whole range. I bought N64-style USB controllers, and their small circles look like an exaggerated ace of diamonds, which messes up aiming.
I expect it to be a problem with the electronics. However, they may compensate for non-existent nonlinearities. Then again, I wonder how they can mess that up.
Unfortunately, I guess a fix for the N64 controllers involves a µController, which maps diagonal movement to new positions while not touching the vertical and horizontal axis.
Hi Max, I did a circle test for you, and uploaded the picture here: imgur.com/a/6l4J2ps
@@BuyitFixit Wow, thank you :). I didn't know that there were specific tests. I should document what I actually observed.
The test only includes the circle at the full range or also small circles?
For N64, the full range might have looked worse, too. But for half range, the whole thing was scaled down and massively skewed. So much that I would almost talk rather about a cross than about an ace of diamonds.
@@maxmustermann2596 The site I used is called gamepad-tester.com yes you can move smaller circles if you wish :)
@@BuyitFixit If it is not too much work, I would be really interested. As I said, I don't expect them to show that, but I would be curious.
If they don't show that, it might be possible to just replace the electronics of those N64-Style controllers. Most of the electronics in there are for wireless capabilities, I guess?
@@maxmustermann2596 I'm not 100%, I thought the N64 were wired? Or am I getting mixed up with game cube? I didn't really have those consoles back in the day. EDIT: Sorry I just re read what you typed, USB type N64. I don't think I've came across those before.
My pet hate is people shoving a screwdriver through the label. It takes literally zero effort to lift the label carefully.
It's not really going to be seen, but I know what you're saying.
I don't think "literally" and "zero" mean what you think they mean.
The problem with lifting the label is damaging the edge and the adhesive, where it doesn't stick back down properly. That's my pet hate. I sometimes cut out the circle of the sticker neatly.
To lift label corner neatly and it resticks every time here is my go to. get prying tool or tooth pick, nudge it slowly a bit at a time then with tweezers pull enough up so u can get to screw. Peel it back down and it looks like no one has been inside the controller.
@@ShelyMB this is pretty much my goto. I will sometimes put the hot air on 80 with no nozzle and literally wave it a second or 2 and it helps the adhesive loosen a little
Xbox. Controller. Repair. Fake. ALPS. Joystick
Not calibrate
Not on the XBOX. There is no calibration. On a PC you can, but that only stores the calibration value on the PC, not in the controller.
thank you for answer . is it possible to store it in the regulator somehow? only hw adjustment? the service can be stored in the controller
Not as far as I know. Microsoft may have some HW tools to adjust but unfortunately they are the only people to have them if such a tool exists.
😢 yes yes or drift fix PCB on Aliexpress ok ?
It would be similar to the resistors that I added so yes it would work 👍