In Defense of Common Sense | with Jodi Shaw & Leslie Elliott

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  • Опубліковано 18 лют 2023
  • Leslie Elliott of ‪@theradicalcenter‬ and Jodi Shaw join me to speak about their peer-support network, Solid Ground Support, where normies support each other in defending their lives and livelihoods against present-day progressive totalitarians.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 97

  • @hellyeah_ellajane
    @hellyeah_ellajane Рік тому +12

    I feel bolstered just knowing these types of people are out there. I love that they can laugh and have merriment despite the insidious underpinnings of the conversation.
    I’ve taken some small steps towards “coming out” as a red-pilled, right-leaning, AR-15 toting, TERFish, future homeschooler, trad-con wife to my friends and family. It’s scary because I want to maintain relationships with them but not at the cost of my integrity and fundamental values.

  • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
    @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Рік тому +23

    I loved the internet hags and harpies part. It's nice seeing people laughing for real. Things are so grim and scary right now.

    • @friedmandesigns
      @friedmandesigns Рік тому +3

      The Sun also rises. Cheers to getting through our modern epoch which embraces negative species-survival traits, and our getting back to reason and _real_ compassion vs. the telegraphed kind.

  • @job1925a
    @job1925a Рік тому +8

    You had me at "When are the adults coming back into the room?"
    I have had that same thought for years!

    • @workhorse7134
      @workhorse7134 Рік тому

      The idealogues are following Maos cultural revolution by letting the children lead the way.
      It's insane but that's what they want because the architects are themselves insane.

  • @904daniela
    @904daniela Рік тому +9

    It's so refreshing to hear people talking about serious things and making jokes in between. It's like real conversations ;)

  • @peterlynley
    @peterlynley Рік тому +24

    From extreme silliness to profound. What a great interview.

  • @NaoCut
    @NaoCut Рік тому +26

    Man, your podcast is such a fresh breath of air. No matter how scary or as troubling the subject matter may be.

  • @janmariolle
    @janmariolle Рік тому +11

    I knew this was going to be good so I saved it for a moment when I could give my complete attention. Thank you Leslie, Jody, and Benjamin. Good stuff here.

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 Рік тому +16

    I love Benjamin Boyce ! He really talks to the best ever . He allows and brings out the best !

  • @ilfautdanser9121
    @ilfautdanser9121 Рік тому +14

    Thank you for this. I do have friends and some family that understand or agree on the various issues and insanities that have taken over our world. What I lack is anyone to converse with on these issues in a deep or meaningful way. People that I once trusted as reasonable have gone woke and seemingly lost the ability to think critically. It's been a lonely few years. So I thank you for introducing me to these wonderful women and the possibility they offer

    • @deborahknox2433
      @deborahknox2433 Рік тому +4

      It's really a great community of people. If you decide to join, I think you will get a lot out of it.

  • @lotteingerslev5776
    @lotteingerslev5776 Рік тому +4

    Thank you SO much to all three of you. Such a wonderful and wise and funny conversation between three beautiful minds!

  • @thomassimmons1950
    @thomassimmons1950 Рік тому +11

    Love these two gals. Great stuff goin on. I'm beginning (in fits and starts) starting to have hope...
    PS: Here's a perspective. You see a Rainbow flag, or say BLM sign, don't think Rue Paul, or say Lizzo, think Claus Schwab and the Davos Gang. This whole revolution is top down deal... fugghedaboudit !

  • @TheBiancap
    @TheBiancap Рік тому +9

    Unnerving, my one and only spiritual experience was similar in many ways to the one Lesley described

  • @mehitabel325
    @mehitabel325 Рік тому +12

    I had a similar experience as Leslie of reconciling myself with the universe after a really hard time in my life. I'm glad she shared her story! Dealing with loss and sorrow, as hard as that is, changes your perception.

  • @amylombardi7378
    @amylombardi7378 Рік тому +5

    Love Leslie's description of her spiritual experience ❤

  • @sharonleecowan4075
    @sharonleecowan4075 Рік тому +3

    Yes, the power to be able to say things out loud. And the power of being together with others who are going through the same thing. I experienced the same sense of relief and invigoration when I joined an online peer-support group of parents of trans-identified kids . . .

  • @ludlowworthington697
    @ludlowworthington697 Рік тому +17

    Jodi’s story about first watching Jordan Peterson was hilarious and very similar to mine, except I was on a commuter train. I kept my iphone close to my chest and couldn’t shake the sense I was about to get in trouble.

    • @StormBringer5
      @StormBringer5 Рік тому +2

      I was listening to Benjamin Boyce in the grocery store, someone asked me what I was listening to and I LIED. The fear of getting caught is real lol.

  • @suspiciousentity9305
    @suspiciousentity9305 Рік тому +7

    Something that has gone hand in hand with the degradation of the interpersonal is how "erotic" has become increasingly synonymous with "pornographic". There should be a big difference in the expectations these words evoke.

    • @DDeCicco
      @DDeCicco Рік тому +8

      Great point. I'm a millennial and my generation really seems mislead when it comes to healthy sexuality. Sex positivity has given way to "all ways of sexually expressing yourself are equally valid and normal". Meanwhile, I see my peers having frequent shallow encounters and developing a jaded outlook on relationships while never considering that their conduct is leading to their dim attitude towards sex and dating.

  • @friedmandesigns
    @friedmandesigns Рік тому +2

    This was excellent, Benjamin. Thank you, man. And of course, thanks Jodi and Leslie ... A wise time-traveler told me that thankfully, this epoch of the Identity Totalitarians as a/the cognition control construct(s) does not last forever. Warm winds and keep on!

  • @florenceellis214
    @florenceellis214 Рік тому +1

    I cracked up at "roman shower"🤣
    Thank you for this calmversation. So great to laugh at the absurdity of it all!

  • @MrGuanyin
    @MrGuanyin Рік тому +3

    Such an incredibly insightful conversation. Exceptional guests

  • @ReturntoReason
    @ReturntoReason Рік тому +25

    Jodi is the best. She's simultaneously a badass and the sweetest person ever.

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 Рік тому +5

    Oh Leslie , oh yes ...

  • @panninggazz5244
    @panninggazz5244 Рік тому +6

    Beauty = form and function. As Stein said. A rose is a rose is a rose
    Universal truth

    • @Zidana123
      @Zidana123 Рік тому

      You are wrong and so is Stein, whoever he is
      Different personality types exist and see different things as beautiful; there is no universal in this regard
      Some people see the individual overcoming all obstacles as beautiful
      Some people see the absorption of the individual into the mass as beautiful
      Some people see the preservation of tradition as beautiful
      Some people see the transgression against tradition as beautiful
      And all these people pursue their own standard of beauty in their own way--you yourself have seen the fallout of these pursuits in your society

  • @Atomb
    @Atomb Рік тому

    Wonderful. Thanks once again Benjamin.

  • @muskepticsometimes9133
    @muskepticsometimes9133 Рік тому +5

    Boyce n girls !!
    JO-DEE !!!

  • @suspiciousentity9305
    @suspiciousentity9305 Рік тому +3

    The fractal comment caught me off-guard, because in many ways, language has the qualities of a fractal, even just technically speaking if you look at how words get strung together. I've wondered how that might affect the way language shapes or might reflect our thinking in a more general sense, over time. Piattelli-Palmarini at U Arizona is the guy who pointed this stuff out for me.

  • @robertmacdonaldch5105
    @robertmacdonaldch5105 Рік тому +3

    45:00 laughing and mocking are 2 of the best tactics.

  • @juliettesmoon
    @juliettesmoon Рік тому +2

    This was awesome. Peeps should check out Jodi’s interview on American Thought Leaders.

  • @hreedwork
    @hreedwork Рік тому +3

    Thank you 🙏

  • @jamesgriffith4
    @jamesgriffith4 Рік тому +4

    Good to see serious academics get the giggles.

  • @miroirs-jumeaux
    @miroirs-jumeaux Рік тому +4

    Jordan Peterson the "centrist fold".
    Benjamin, don't tease - if there's an IDW swimsuit calendar or something in the works, the people must be made aware and allowed to start preordering.
    I'm sure it would be tasteful, sensual, memorable, etc.

  • @luismagill
    @luismagill Рік тому +4

    O Leslie is so sweet i am compelled to look away for fear of being engulfed by her strength and beauty, any how in the age of Aquarius a Goddess demands the castrated men serve its power beneath the power where the ego resides. Jodi is on the ball with it is for the good women to rise in creative endeavors and so communicate a light and way to be.

  • @Lornaannhartley
    @Lornaannhartley Рік тому

    This was a great conversation....thank you.

  • @melissajones5985
    @melissajones5985 Рік тому +5

    30:10 This comment, Benjamin is so funny and apt in a gen x way. Wonderful

    • @BenjaminABoyce
      @BenjaminABoyce  Рік тому +1

      Coulda been a Portlandia sketch

    • @melissajones5985
      @melissajones5985 Рік тому +1

      @@BenjaminABoyce It's yours, Benjamin and there's something really good there that's much better than Portlandia. Your notion is funnier and more bracing than Portlandia. With apologies to Portlandia as that show provided great commentary regarding pillaging musician's craft, but the show ended before 2020, if I'm not mistaken.

  • @adrianw5055
    @adrianw5055 Рік тому +6

    Leslie Elliott is beautiful 😍

  • @MrGuanyin
    @MrGuanyin Рік тому +1

    Jodi and Leslie - your views on relationship, to self (inc future self) and to others are really well articulated. Expressing the fundamental substrate of connection and relationship to all things - I think this is the origins of what we experience as beauty. Brilliant interview.

  • @drewid0847
    @drewid0847 10 місяців тому

    awwwww...I love that you always show your cats

  • @christianbolt5761
    @christianbolt5761 Рік тому +2

    After a while they will a good data set of the types of problems people are running into, and what helps.
    You should have them back on

  • @amylombardi7378
    @amylombardi7378 Рік тому +1

    Please note: A high percentage of academic workers (instructors, those who actually teach) are contingent adjuncts and not at all "elites" in terms of income or job security.

  • @erichthor2580
    @erichthor2580 Рік тому +5

    The people that need convincing or need to make them aware are the kind of people that are the incredulous. They look but they don't see and they're not really aware. They're kind of sensing that there's something wrong but they don't really care enough to be bothered with it. These kind of people are just lazy thinkers. They are lazy of mine and lazy a body. The trick is how can we motivate these kinds of incredulous individuals into action. Yes it's true you can't make people care but how can you make them aware enough to ask questions and maybe motivate them to care enough to disseminate the information between friends and family. There has to be some sort of ubiquity or universality in order to motivate the incredulous individuals into action if it's not ubiquitous enough then people will not care enough to do anything about it. People like Judy and Leslie have the energy and gumption to put their thought into action, unfortunately not everyone are like this.

  • @hengineer
    @hengineer Рік тому

    Benjamin with the Celebrity Deathmatch joke, "The Al-Gorithm"

  • @teledoink
    @teledoink Рік тому

    I would love to join their peer support group to be able to discuss the extreme nepotism and racism I experienced working at a university in San Francisco for almost a decade. But I don’t want these $5 monthly payments showing up on my credit card card as my husband doesn’t get it

  • @robertmacdonaldch5105
    @robertmacdonaldch5105 Рік тому +2

    "Internet hags and harpers"

  • @helenablavatsky9136
    @helenablavatsky9136 Рік тому +2

    💜

  • @dianedorbin6783
    @dianedorbin6783 Рік тому +2

    Cult Dynamics and post-cult strategies for recovery would be helpful.....

    • @dianedorbin6783
      @dianedorbin6783 Рік тому

      and how to find a non-Woke therapist

    • @dianedorbin6783
      @dianedorbin6783 Рік тому +1

      peer support combined with a good dive into family systems/abuse dynamics/personality disorders is pretty eff
      ective

  • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

    Leslie blushed bigtime at 45:00

  • @Richard-ul8yz
    @Richard-ul8yz Рік тому +3

    Waking up from wokeness.

  • @NinjaKittyBonks
    @NinjaKittyBonks Рік тому +3

    Mr. Benjamin is the _true_ 🥷🐈. Makes The Kitty jealous😿

  • @melissajones5985
    @melissajones5985 Рік тому +1

    59:00 Leslie!

  • @Louis-wp3fq
    @Louis-wp3fq Рік тому +3

    Leslie is so pretty [/simp]

  • @robertmacdonaldch5105
    @robertmacdonaldch5105 Рік тому +1

    1:02:00 women are keepers of the culture

  • @megankwisdom
    @megankwisdom Рік тому +2

    your cats are ridiculously cute 🥰🥰

  • @simonskinner1450
    @simonskinner1450 Рік тому

    I am a lone ranger who accidently has found the truth of the NT, I fly solo against all establishment in the religion of Abraham. People have vested and invested interests in a collective wisdom, so "what can I do?", is the question. I am going to rely on a better logic of argument that can break down the defensive wall of saving grace on the Cross, and realising they will actually be judged as they die.
    Though I am drafting a book on 'hereafter' teaching I was convinced in my conscience to make a Ytube video series called 'Myths in so-called Christianity', as a so-called Christian myself I am liken to an ex-Woke questioning the Virtue Signal.
    In Wokism the Virtue Signal is salvation, like the Cross in Christianity, both WOKE and Christianity use 'aunt sally' arguments, or 'gaslighting' to capture the minds of those who are the MEEK.

  • @persnipoles
    @persnipoles Рік тому

    "There are bo warriors until you get out of that loop."
    But why would you be vulnerable to that mental loop?
    i've heard a sort of death by many cuts theory of child abuse. Somebody's examples included making a child sit on granny's lap when he didn't want to because of her bad breath. I.e., asserting your freedom of association, for reasons you needn't give, is part of basic autonomy. Overpowering that prerogative was asserted to be one setup for abuse. Overpowering it for the benefit of strangers I'll just flatly call wreckless & malicious grooming. And how else do u do that to children apart from shame, guilt trips, coercion? Demanding of you that you submit to another's choice of associations is degrading to you. Accepting it involves accepting that you're not worth boundaries of your own choice.
    Well, exactly that was done to whites, by category, in the '60s & '70s and in perpetuity thereafter. Could that explain a "perpetual mental loop" among adults like Jodi? I'm not even asking. QED.
    What I'd leave open is how many involved would have to be character disordered ...

  • @mark4asp
    @mark4asp Рік тому +8

    I don't always agree with using our intuitions as the basis for our ideas - because our intuitions can sometimes lead us badly astray. However - in today's world - where the academy, media, institutions, government, ..., betray us so badly - we are better off trusting our intuition ahead of many of the so called 'experts'.
    I personally - still trust the evidence; and - if anything - I distrust my intuition.

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman Рік тому

      Intuition is the birthplace of the hypothesis.
      Logical positivism is the faith that there is an objective 'out there' out there. Science adheres to that faith.
      Intuition is the unconscious act of assembling patterns to reveal what appeals to our nature.
      Our nature loves beauty, authenticity and integrity.

  • @thomassimmons1950
    @thomassimmons1950 Рік тому +7

    WOW...ya hate to judge people ya don't know, but jeez Louise...how do ya blow a chance with a dame like Leslie. Not my business...just sayin.

    • @delightfuldissident859
      @delightfuldissident859 Рік тому +3

      I couldn't agree with you more. It's a special kind of stupid to take someone like Leslie for granted!

    • @thomassimmons1950
      @thomassimmons1950 Рік тому

      @@delightfuldissident859 Cheers!

  • @weeb3277
    @weeb3277 Рік тому +1

    34:47 yes, it's just a euphemism for anti-white.

  • @panninggazz5244
    @panninggazz5244 Рік тому

    Roman Shower. Gagagaggah.

  • @rijntje73
    @rijntje73 Рік тому +1

    How can you cheat on a beautiful and wise woman like Leslie? 😵‍💫 I'm sorry, but that baffles me. The grass is always greener I guess... 🤷🏼‍♂

    • @Bingewatchingmediacontent
      @Bingewatchingmediacontent 3 місяці тому +1

      Less than a year later and she’s married to Benjamin. So I guess it all works out

    • @rijntje73
      @rijntje73 3 місяці тому

      @@BingewatchingmediacontentDon't you dare cheat on her, Benjamin! 😠

  • @anthonyhopkins9976
    @anthonyhopkins9976 Рік тому +3

    Benjamin, please for the love of god BURN THAT HAT!!!

  • @bridieconroy1368
    @bridieconroy1368 Рік тому +2

    eeeew 'first playboy' ? said to two women............ eeeeewwww (and so sly)

  • @simonskinner1450
    @simonskinner1450 Рік тому

    TRUTH IS BEAUTY. It is seen as 'UGLY' because it makes the alternatives into a lie, but WOKISM is the alternative that suits every VICTIM, as they see themselves as they can't face the TRUTH.

  • @Cladina_Green
    @Cladina_Green 11 місяців тому

    The word "woke" and all it's derivations is quite off-putting to me as someone on the left. I feel attacked lol. I will listen anyway tho.

  • @emmalouie1663
    @emmalouie1663 Рік тому +1