Subscribed. Fantastic review. There's not many people that can speak without repeated "um's" or "uh's" and you pulled it off without a hitch. Great video. Thank you.
Great review Darren Miles. I've been interested in purchasing one myself and I think your review will go a long way towards helping me out with the Phantom 2 Vision. With all the new additions at CES I think there will be a lot to chose from in the next couple of months. 350 bits *****
Mobilitytoday - This point has come up in several other comments on the thread. If you play back the review, you'll note that I was quoting another reviewer, though I haven't experienced this issue myself.
Darren Miles When you do a review of a product don't quote other reviewer, TRY IT OUT or search for quality sources, especially with a widely known information like the emergency landing.
Fergesslich Thanks for the feedback. Keep in mind that at the time of this review, the phantom 2 Vision + had literally been released 5 days earlier and there wasn't a ton of information available. However, an earlier reviewer had commented that on 2 occasions the drone just shut down completely at about 15% power - though I hadn't experienced that myself, I felt it was important to mention.
Good day. But that is wrong as well with how it response to low battery. It will not fly back and land. It will land where it's at. The only time it will fly back to home location is when you lose connection to the receiver.
Great review Darren. Too bad about the long delay with the camera, I'm not experiencing this at all on mine. As you suggest, this might be a firmware upgrade issue.
Thanks Patrice, let me ask you a question, are you shooting in RAW or JPG? I *think* the delay may be happening because I'm shooting in RAW - haven't tested JPG as I use the lens profile correction - which requires RAW (for auto detection) so I switched to RAW before I ever took the first photo...
Awesome review. I have a Phantom F300 and a cheap HD camera, FPV but no gimbal. I'm pretty amazed at how nice the Vision+ works. I'm definitely going to buy it. Good job Darren ! Keep up the good work !
Thanks for the review. I am waiting for the UPS truck to deliver my P2V+Production kit. I studied some other platforms but this seems to foot every bill I need as a Gulf Coast photographer. What sells a waterfront home is a picture FROM the water! Thanks for the info.
I noticed the horizons are tilting in the review videos. This means you've got FPV mode on. Switch FPV off in the app and the gimble will mimic the horizon.
Hi Darren! Thanks for your great review. Have been thinking about getting myself a quad... After looking at this, I was finally convinced. So this afternoon I ordered one..
Impressive review. Well done. One question: I've heard a lot of regarding the sensitivity of the gimbal and the camera being too delicate that a minor crash will destroy the camera and gimbal mechanism. Is this true? Thanks.
I've crashed the Phantom 2 once, and it came away OK. However, I don't have a ton of faith in the overall construction, not quite professional grade, but it's certainly adequate.
BTW, the F stop on the P2V and P2V camera is 2.8 amazingly. When they first released the p2v the spec was all over the place, but they have removed it.
Darren I agree with you 100%. I've spent 40 years as a professional pilot & most of my life I've lived here in Florida was born and raised over in Boynton Beach. During those years and while flying professionally I have scratch my head at the FAA's thinking over the last four decades countless times. I have a friend who works for the FAA out of California he's been assigned the task to look at UA-cam and other sites where people are posting commercial work using drones just in order to create a backlog of fines and discomfort for the average guy. He personally thinks it's the most ridiculous job he's ever done in his last 20 years! Since the advent of the quadcopter drone and using cameras to do minor commercial work another issue has arisen and that has been with skydivers who video you during your free fall. While they've been doing this for decades all of a sudden theres now this issue of doing commercial aerial work for profit and/or compensation even though your lift is far less then your drag so you're not really an airplane but a falling rock. It's crazy isn't it? By the way I'm not far from you I live over in Central Florida in the town of Winter Haven. Regards
Nice review. I've owned the Phantom 2 w/ Zenmuse H3-2D for about 7 months and love it, but am thinking about swapping over to the Vision2+ for the additional gimbal plane and simplification of use. Only concern is losing the GoPro's 2.7K & 4K video ability. The V2+ does 1080p max. Not sure about your "crashing at 10 minutes batt life" comment. I think all Phantom Quadcopters have a safety "return home" feature. I've run mine down to the wire a few times and it simply made a soft landing straight down. Thankfully it wasn't over water. Sounds like you've made a nice business helping Thurston and Lovie sell houses down there. :-) Danny Harmon Tampa
Thanks for your review. The way your approached it convinced me it was time to buy. Thanks again keep up the direct approach for those who don't like the side step approach.
I'm from Sarasota, and I ordered my Vision + last Week. It should be here on Tuesday. I'm excited. I'm a pilot and retired automobile dealer. I look forward to talking to you Darren. You have a great voice, and your presentation was a 9.5! I may send the Phantom back and order a Turbo Ace Matrix-G.
Thanks Phillip! Appreciate the kind words! I too am curious about the turbo ace matrix, I'm also curious about DJI's other offerings that would allow me to hook up a DSLR to the copter for even better video quality....
Hello, Iv'e been enjoying your channel since purchasing my DJI Phantom2 Vision Plus. There has been a lot of talk on the news about the drones like what we fly, what is your take on all this Do you think the drones will become illegal or if not, what do you think will become of this hobby I just invested into and love? It's got me worried and a bit bummed. Thanks for your time in advance. Tommy
Great, incisive review. I'm not a novice shooter, but am a n00b with flying platforms in the market for my first. Would this make a good choice? Is this compatible with any first-person goggle systems?
Darren, have you had much flight experience prior to this? Wondering how is the learning curve for a brand new pilot. Also, do you find value in the prop guards? I know probably not needed for experienced. But just in case :) also, can it be programmed to return home in case the distance travelled may exceed the battery power needed?
Probably one of the most well organized and thorough reviews I've seen on this product Darren. Just an FYI the official name is the DJI Phantom 2 Vision+. Subscribed.
Great review. I already had mine on the way when I found your video but it reaffirmed my decision and gave me some additional good insights. Very good content well delivered. Thanks.
Darren, Great review. I have been flying the Phantom 2 Vision and unhappy, well pissed, about video quality. Watching this convinced me to go with the vision Plus. Very happy with the video quality now. So I can shoot better video (just for fun) from the east side of Alligator alley. Your right about taking photos and the shutter response. Would be nice if that was fixed.
Darren, I was looking for the complete review of how about's and you have given it all. You being a professional in Phtotography, your verdict is quality and now my decision on buying this is final. Just to note, I must say the kid who's seen flying was very confident :). Great Work Darren!! Thank you.
I have HEARD (but not verified) that an option to reduce moire is to shoot at 720P and 60fps rather than 1080P and 30fps. The recommendations I have read recommend AGAINST using 1080i to do 60fps.
Very professional review Darren. I have the Vision 2 and am considering upgrading to the +. Is that an ipad you are using? I looked for the DJI app but couldn't find one for the ipad. FYI the Phantom uses lipo's and it's common knowledge that they shouldn't be drained below 20% of their capacity. Thanks, Scott
Thank you sir! I did a battery test and ran it until the drone stopped. DJI has built in some safe guards where you can't go that high when the battery capacity dips too low, it'll only allow you to hover a few feet off the ground... I managed to get the app on the iPad, I forget how, but it let me sync the app with the iPad and it works just fine, but better because you can actually see the shot before you take it :-)
After you have used this vision + for awhile, how do you like it? Did you ever get the camera delay figured out? It seems strange that it takes your camera that long to take a picture. I have the vision + as well and it maybe a bit long to snap a picture but it's still under a second.
Hi Darren Miles, Thank you kindly for your thorough review and also the nice scenery actually! Picked up a few good tips. Just a quick question. I just recieved my device PV2+ and have flown in only a couple of times. I came across something about the camera tilt that raised my concern. I noticed when I tilt the camera via the app (smartphone soft/touch buttons), it tilts quite crisply responding to every click precisely on the gimbal, however when I use the metallic looking dial on the top left hand corner on the Remote Control (just above the S2 switch), the gimbal wobbles the camera before actually tilting it up and down, sort of like a very fast nod up/down before actually tilting in the direction that I want it to go so it makes it difficult to do as smooth of a tilt or like step by step tilt as it does through the app. Almost looking like it's a bit confused before responding... Like a wobble or shake, sorry I don't know how to describe it any better.. Is this normal or is my RC dial faulty? Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers q[^_^]p
Excellent video, really enjoyed your review. I was just wondering if you are able to detach the camera on it or if its permanently attached to the drone itself?
Very well done Darren! Your overall professionalism shines thru brightly. The composition of your presentation, style, etc. My P2V+ arrived 2 weeks ago and I'm still on cloud nine. I love it. QUESTION for the expert tho: As an avid photog I can see the value in a UV or polarizing filter on the P2V+. It's available for the Phantom Vision, but not for the PLUS. Anything fashioned right on the lens may effect the gimbal. Any ideas Darren? Have you tried any filters?
Great review Darren, thanks! My wife is a realtor and I'm a home inspector so one of these will work for us both. My question is regarding wi-fi. I have read on other sites that maintaining the signal in populated areas is a challenge as other routers etc. interfere. I am sure you take your RE photos in suburbs etc. Any issues with the phantom not communicating or doing the dreaded flyaway?
So far no issues at all, whenever it disconnects it'll attempt to return to where it took off and 1 of 2 things will happen, it'll either reconnect with the remote or it'll descend and land where it took off and land. However, If you're in a dense area and you've flown overt a few buildings or trees and it disconnects, it may fly into something upon its return :-)
Phenomenal review. Extremely professional. Thank you for breaking it down the way you did. It certainly helped me with making a decision to go ahead with my purchase.
Excellent review! Do you know if the Vision+ camera rig can be removed and replaced with an Zenmuse H3-3D or pano head down the road, if desired? Do you think you could shoot an aerial pano with the Vision+ rig as is?
Thanks dan! Audio matters, it was one of the first things I learned about video - bad audio can ruin what is otherwise a great production. Glad you noticed!
Very good review. You didn't mention anything about audio. I'm guessing audio is not possible during the video filming process, due to the motor and prop noise. Is that correct?
As for the issue you talked about not being able to keep oriented. You can with the computer software enable the ICU on the S2 switch of the Phantom Controller. Then you can enter Home Lock mode with the S2 switch and the phantom will remain oriented with the home takeoff location no matter what direction the phantom is pointed. While in home lock pulling back on right flight stick will always bring the phantom back towards the home takeoff location. Also keep in mind that according to the FCC you cannot use the phantom 2 Vision+ for commercial use. We should get some actual regulations hopefully sometime this year and hopefully have an options for commercial use. People seem to be claiming they can get around this by saying they cannot charge for the photo's, however they are charging for editing the photo's from the P2V+ that they deliver to their clients.
Thanks for the orientation tip! It's still grey - i.e. the regulations - the FCC brought a suit to the supreme court about commercial usage - but the supremes shot it down. It is in limbo, but seriously, what is the issue with using a drone to take photos for commercial purposes? I'm just taking photos from a different perspective. I think the bigger issue is potential misuse and flying these things into commercial airliners - which has already ALMOST happened. But banning them for commercial use to take photos seems very odd to me as I have a hard time understanding the why behind that one...
Here's the most recent article.... www.dailytech.com/Court+Rules+that+FAA+Cannot+Ban+Commercial+Drones+Dismisses+10000+Fine+for+Drone+User/article34468.htm
Darren Miles Yes, this is true, makes no sense that you can go up and snap some photo's but not sell them. No change in safety or how you fly if you are selling the photo's or not. I hope they clear things up soon.
how do you enable the icu on the s2 because i always have to turn off my transmiter when i get lost????? please help ive looked in the phantom software but couldnt find.
xmunoz21 To enable IOC, connect the phantom to your computer via USB and then open the phantom assistant software. Go to the Advanced Tab on top. Then look for the IOC tab under advanced. There should be a check box to enable IOC.
Great Review!!!! I currently have two of the Blade 350Qx quads with gimbals go pros which I am very happy with, but I am getting ready to also purchase the P2V+. Thanks for the great quality review!
Wow The best review so far! Can I plug a PC into the unit to set way points (I think that is the right word). How much do I charge agents for pictures?
Thanks Dave, really appreciate that. I think there's a module to plug in way points, you may want to check DJI's website. As for what to charge agents, all I'll say is tread carefully until the FAA writes their regulations on the commercial use of drones. Local markets determine pricing conditions.
Would you say that the Phantom 2 plus video quality is significantly better than say the original Phantom Vision 2 camera (using an aftermarket Gimbal) such as a RotorPixel ?
Probably not, especially if you attach a higher quality video camera like the go pro 3 black with its higher resolution and bit rate. What's so appealing about the Phantom 2 Vision + is that it's an all in one package and the video and image quality are good enough.
There's a case you can buy made specifically for the phantom - seems robust enough for travel. As far as I can tell the gimbal isn't able to be disassembled.
Are you using the SD card that came with the Phantom? That's a class 4 microsd card. For about $20 you can buy a class 10 32gb with a faster write speed. It might snap pictures quicker.
I upgrade to a 32GB card - and used it in the review, I have updated the firmware, but haven't taken a photo yet with the updated firmware... I'll write in an update if there's a significant improvement.
Great review! I have phantom 2 vision, of course I bought it the month before plus came out! Will probably get the plus next year after 3 comes out lol.
Hi Darren Thanks for the great review. Can you please show/describe how the camera performs when shooting during twilight. I'm specificaly interested in the high-iso performance and how bad/good the images and videos look.
Gromov, Low light shooting is NOT a strong suit of the Phantom Vision 2 + - the sensor is really small and noise will rear it's ugly head very quickly in low light. If you need a low light solution - you may have to spend a lot more money that can handle a larger camera with a larger sensor...
Thank you for this video. I was looking for the best Video what tells me to buy the Phantom Vision 2 plus. So I´m of to go in the next 30 min. to buy one..... Greetings from Berlin in Germany......The Price I found in Germany is 1199€ with a extra battery included.
Very Nice! although with the new DJI P3 out I am looking at that now instead. just curious, what is the name of the music at 10:23? it goes really well with the shots
Hey Darren, great info that's much appreciated. I had a thought, and you seem to be the guy to ask...Will this shoot video with the rotors turned off? With that cool gimbal, it looks like it would be an acceptable steadycam for hand held walk-throughs. Just an idea.
Thanks for the walk through Darren.Great job done. I`m considering buying one and need to get as much info as possible and for sure,your review has helped considerably. I have subscribed and look fwd to many other reviews. Sincerely JF ( UK )
great review, very professional. I own a vision + and was thinking of going into the restate market giving sellers an added advantage over the competition being able to get perspectives you can get any other way. Frankly the DJI is such a great deal for the money, it can't be beat. again great review, i thought i was watching an edmunds car review on my drone. LOL Keep it up, One last thing, look into the AMA insurance as it covers you and property and others for nearly $400K insurance for less than $50yr.
Thanks Darren for a great review which helped me make the decision to buy one : ) You don't seem to have any qualms about flying near power lines, I've heard they can cause interference but maybe I don't need to worry so much.
can you make a video showing that it can fly more than 250 meter range? Cause i saw a video with phantom 2+ that could barely fly 100 meter on a footboll fiield, so please make a video for your statement i would be very surprised if it could fly 300 meter
Thank you for the kind words about the review! I use a sony uwp-v1 wireless lavalier mic, it's pretty stellar and very clear - great deal for the money.
Hi Darren, thx a lot for this review. As a professional photographer, based in Germany, I asked myself, if this drone matches my demands, especially in still photography. I have a favour to ask you - is it possible for you to provide some unmodified raw-images?
No. In fact, just the opposite. If the drone gets disconnected, it'll actually come back to where it took off and descend. When the battery gets low, the Phantom automatically cuts the power to just above hover meaning you can't fly it away when the battery's low even if you wanted to. Anyway, the short answer is NO :-)
thanks but from what I hear from the stories is that it can fly away and never come back no matter what they do even turning the tx off unfortunately! but glad to hear it didnt happen to you. How long have you had it?
I'm curious, the video quality you see during the 1 minute clip he shows you is it literally that good on the screen you're holding? What about if you buy googles instead? Does the imagine quality get reduced or is it still the same as on the screen?
Nice review, tho as a quick FYI it's a Phantom 2 not a Vision 2. First there was a Phantom then Phantom 2 Vision then Phantom 2 without the "vision" wifi camera then Phantom 2 Vision Plus. They are all the same Phantom 2 only difference is the camera platform and the Vision series uses 5.8ghz for control
Darren - in your review it appears you're using a tablet instead of a smartphone to control the DJI Phantom 2 Vision Plus. How was this possible? Thanks for taking the time to do such a nice review. Jerry
Thanks Jerry! The Phantom 2 Vision+ is compatible with iOS, but I'm pretty sure it has to be a newer model of iPad in order to work - retina display or iPad air. I like it better because the screen is a lot bigger and it's easier to navigate, compose and take photos. It works GREAT!
Thanks for video. Does your phantom vision 2+'s camera inclined a bit? I just got mine and seems that the cam is not straight. Can you please advice? Thanks
When you learn how to fly go to next level NAZA Mode. Use CL on mose on switch S2. Sl stands for Course Lock so if you point you drone one way its going to be front you can turn you drone any way you like you will always go forward as you started. I am going to make videos all tricks you can do with it. Sorry my Croatian English spelling :D
Because of your review I bought one. After 1 week+ I've only had one good flight and one crash out of about 10 attempts. I don't trust this thing yet it doesn't want to hold gps lock. I might have been wrong about buying this. DJI seems like they have better things to do than help. Still trying to debug it but it's not RTF out of the box.
Great job Darren. I think you may be in the wrong business. You may want to look at getting into the TV business or something like that. You have a smooth style and it comes across well. Your professional review is waaaay above the average review that is done on youtube! Take care and good luck.
Excellent review! However, it seems you have FPV mode turned on for the gimbal. Is this intentional? It ruins the on board videos for me. Apart from that though, I loved it and am currently saving for this Phantom :)
As you probably know, DJI isn't renowned for their excellent documentation in their packaging. I literally found out about the FPV mode switching after I completed the review - it's much better now :-) It's a great drone!!!
Bazza Hi. I don't own the Phantom (yet!), but I believe that with FPV mode turned on, the gimbal allows some horizontal movement. This is helpful if you're not flying by line-of-sight as it helps you judge the position of the Phantom, especially in turns. The video is still stabilized though, as you can see in this review. Turned off, the gimbal acts as a regular 3-axis gimbal, with full stabilization in all of those axis. Hope this helps :)
The best independent review so far I've seen for the Vision plus! So good that i downloaded this video on full hd for review. :) But now im very confused. I was aiming for the Phantom 2 + gopro hero + black, but this review has reset me back. :( My intention is just for aerial surveys for viable location for Radio Towers, determining CLOS between them. Can the Vision Plus fulfill the same task as the Phantom 2 + gopro hero + black for this application?
Thank you for the kind words! Truth be told, the Go Pro Hero 3 Black has better video quality - especially at 2.7K, however, is it the kind of thing that the average client will notice as much as we as photogs/videogs will notice? Probably not. I'm not sure what CLOS is or how far apart they are. I know that the range of the Phanton 2 Vision + is about 1,500 feet, but that's in an open area without power lines - so that - I presume - has to factor into your decision making...
Darren Miles Thanks Darren for taking time to respond and clearing it up. Sorry for including some of our jargon here. CLOS just means Clear Line of Sight. Usually a helicopter is used for determining if a location is viable for a wireless back-haul link, a CLOS is required between radio towers. Since these drones are more cost effective compared to renting choppers, we are now considering purchasing this for the project. Aerial pictures and videos with sharp details are quite important for the assessment locations.
I did - same deal. Though some have told me that they're not seeing the delay that I'm seeing, so perhaps there is some production variance in the Phantom...?
Subscribed. Fantastic review. There's not many people that can speak without repeated "um's" or "uh's" and you pulled it off without a hitch. Great video. Thank you.
Thanks Tom, I really appreciate that!
Great review Darren Miles. I've been interested in purchasing one myself and I think your review will go a long way towards helping me out with the Phantom 2 Vision. With all the new additions at CES I think there will be a lot to chose from in the next couple of months.
350 bits *****
Thank you Patrick!
This guy is a perfect pitchman. Absolutely likable and informative
how you liking the phantom vision plus so far?
WRONG INFORMATION ALERT:
The drone DOES NOT after 10% fall and crash. If you have GPS on it will come back to you and hover over you.
Mobilitytoday - This point has come up in several other comments on the thread. If you play back the review, you'll note that I was quoting another reviewer, though I haven't experienced this issue myself.
Darren Miles
When you do a review of a product don't quote other reviewer, TRY IT OUT or search for quality sources, especially with a widely known information like the emergency landing.
Fergesslich Thanks for the feedback. Keep in mind that at the time of this review, the phantom 2 Vision + had literally been released 5 days earlier and there wasn't a ton of information available.
However, an earlier reviewer had commented that on 2 occasions the drone just shut down completely at about 15% power - though I hadn't experienced that myself, I felt it was important to mention.
Darren Miles
I forgive you! All your sins shall be vanished!
Good day. But that is wrong as well with how it response to low battery. It will not fly back and land. It will land where it's at. The only time it will fly back to home location is when you lose connection to the receiver.
Great review Darren. Too bad about the long delay with the camera, I'm not experiencing this at all on mine. As you suggest, this might be a firmware upgrade issue.
Thanks Patrice, let me ask you a question, are you shooting in RAW or JPG? I *think* the delay may be happening because I'm shooting in RAW - haven't tested JPG as I use the lens profile correction - which requires RAW (for auto detection) so I switched to RAW before I ever took the first photo...
Hi Darren, I've been shooting RAW as well and haven't noticed a lag at all. I've updated to the latest firmware so maybe this helped. Cheers.
Awesome review. I have a Phantom F300 and a cheap HD camera, FPV but no gimbal. I'm pretty amazed at how nice the Vision+ works. I'm definitely going to buy it. Good job Darren ! Keep up the good work !
Thank you!
Thanks for the review. I am waiting for the UPS truck to deliver my P2V+Production kit. I studied some other platforms but this seems to foot every bill I need as a Gulf Coast photographer. What sells a waterfront home is a picture FROM the water! Thanks for the info.
I noticed the horizons are tilting in the review videos. This means you've got FPV mode on. Switch FPV off in the app and the gimble will mimic the horizon.
Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try!
Hi Darren! Thanks for your great review.
Have been thinking about getting myself a quad... After looking at this, I was finally convinced. So this afternoon I ordered one..
Cool! You're going to love it!
Well done video, thanks for taking the time to review the Phantom 2, very helpful.
Thank you very much!!
Impressive review. Well done. One question: I've heard a lot of regarding the sensitivity of the gimbal and the camera being too delicate that a minor crash will destroy the camera and gimbal mechanism. Is this true? Thanks.
I've crashed the Phantom 2 once, and it came away OK. However, I don't have a ton of faith in the overall construction, not quite professional grade, but it's certainly adequate.
Thanks for taking the time to do a review .Lucky you living in such a nice part of the USA.
BTW, the F stop on the P2V and P2V camera is 2.8 amazingly. When they first released the p2v the spec was all over the place, but they have removed it.
Darren I agree with you 100%. I've spent 40 years as a professional pilot & most of my life I've lived here in Florida was born and raised over in Boynton Beach. During those years and while flying professionally I have scratch my head at the FAA's thinking over the last four decades countless times. I have a friend who works for the FAA out of California he's been assigned the task to look at UA-cam and other sites where people are posting commercial work using drones just in order to create a backlog of fines and discomfort for the average guy. He personally thinks it's the most ridiculous job he's ever done in his last 20 years! Since the advent of the quadcopter drone and using cameras to do minor commercial work another issue has arisen and that has been with skydivers who video you during your free fall. While they've been doing this for decades all of a sudden theres now this issue of doing commercial aerial work for profit and/or compensation even though your lift is far less then your drag so you're not really an airplane but a falling rock. It's crazy isn't it? By the way I'm not far from you I live over in Central Florida in the town of Winter Haven. Regards
Nice review.
I've owned the Phantom 2 w/ Zenmuse H3-2D for about 7 months and love it, but am thinking about swapping over to the Vision2+ for the additional gimbal plane and simplification of use. Only concern is losing the GoPro's 2.7K & 4K video ability. The V2+ does 1080p max.
Not sure about your "crashing at 10 minutes batt life" comment. I think all Phantom Quadcopters have a safety "return home" feature. I've run mine down to the wire a few times and it simply made a soft landing straight down. Thankfully it wasn't over water. Sounds like you've made a nice business helping Thurston and Lovie sell houses down there. :-)
Danny Harmon
Tampa
Thanks for your review. The way your approached it convinced me it was time to buy. Thanks again keep up the direct approach for those who don't like the side step approach.
I'm from Sarasota, and I ordered my Vision + last Week. It should be here on Tuesday. I'm excited. I'm a pilot and retired automobile dealer. I look forward to talking to you Darren. You have a great voice, and your presentation was a 9.5! I may send the Phantom back and order a Turbo Ace Matrix-G.
Thanks Phillip! Appreciate the kind words! I too am curious about the turbo ace matrix, I'm also curious about DJI's other offerings that would allow me to hook up a DSLR to the copter for even better video quality....
Hello, Iv'e been enjoying your channel since purchasing my DJI Phantom2 Vision Plus. There has been a lot of talk on the news about the drones like what we fly, what is your take on all this Do you think the drones will become illegal or if not, what do you think will become of this hobby I just invested into and love? It's got me worried and a bit bummed. Thanks for your time in advance.
Tommy
One of the best reviews of this platform I have seen to date, great job Darren!
Thank you very much Drew!
Thanks Darren, good review and just in time. I'll order my drone right now
Great, incisive review. I'm not a novice shooter, but am a n00b with flying platforms in the market for my first. Would this make a good choice? Is this compatible with any first-person goggle systems?
Darren, have you had much flight experience prior to this? Wondering how is the learning curve for a brand new pilot. Also, do you find value in the prop guards? I know probably not needed for experienced. But just in case :) also, can it be programmed to return home in case the distance travelled may exceed the battery power needed?
Probably one of the most well organized and thorough reviews I've seen on this product Darren. Just an FYI the official name is the DJI Phantom 2 Vision+. Subscribed.
Thank you sir! Totally flubbed the name, my bad!
Great review. I already had mine on the way when I found your video but it reaffirmed my decision and gave me some additional good insights. Very good content well delivered. Thanks.
This is a really good review for the EXACT purpose I was looking for. Thank you for taking the time to post this!
Thank you very much, glad you liked it!!
Darren, Great review. I have been flying the Phantom 2 Vision and unhappy, well pissed, about video quality. Watching this convinced me to go with the vision Plus.
Very happy with the video quality now. So I can shoot better video (just for fun) from the east side of Alligator alley. Your right about taking photos and the shutter response.
Would be nice if that was fixed.
Darren, I was looking for the complete review of how about's and you have given it all. You being a professional in Phtotography, your verdict is quality and now my decision on buying this is final. Just to note, I must say the kid who's seen flying was very confident :).
Great Work Darren!! Thank you.
Thanks Kapil!
Enjoy, it's a tremendous value!
I have HEARD (but not verified) that an option to reduce moire is to shoot at 720P and 60fps rather than 1080P and 30fps. The recommendations I have read recommend AGAINST using 1080i to do 60fps.
Very professional review Darren. I have the Vision 2 and am considering upgrading to the +. Is that an ipad you are using? I looked for the DJI app but couldn't find one for the ipad. FYI the Phantom uses lipo's and it's common knowledge that they shouldn't be drained below 20% of their capacity. Thanks, Scott
Thank you sir! I did a battery test and ran it until the drone stopped. DJI has built in some safe guards where you can't go that high when the battery capacity dips too low, it'll only allow you to hover a few feet off the ground... I managed to get the app on the iPad, I forget how, but it let me sync the app with the iPad and it works just fine, but better because you can actually see the shot before you take it :-)
After you have used this vision + for awhile, how do you like it? Did you ever get the camera delay figured out? It seems strange that it takes your camera that long to take a picture. I have the vision + as well and it maybe a bit long to snap a picture but it's still under a second.
Impressed. Seriously considering this purchase thanks to your review. You cover all bases. Solid, and professional.
Thank you sir!
Hi Darren Miles, Thank you kindly for your thorough review and also the nice scenery actually! Picked up a few good tips. Just a quick question. I just recieved my device PV2+ and have flown in only a couple of times. I came across something about the camera tilt that raised my concern. I noticed when I tilt the camera via the app (smartphone soft/touch buttons), it tilts quite crisply responding to every click precisely on the gimbal, however when I use the metallic looking dial on the top left hand corner on the Remote Control (just above the S2 switch), the gimbal wobbles the camera before actually tilting it up and down, sort of like a very fast nod up/down before actually tilting in the direction that I want it to go so it makes it difficult to do as smooth of a tilt or like step by step tilt as it does through the app. Almost looking like it's a bit confused before responding... Like a wobble or shake, sorry I don't know how to describe it any better.. Is this normal or is my RC dial faulty? Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers q[^_^]p
Thanks for taking the time to put this review together. I'm sold!
Thanks Zac!!
Great review and info dude, my compliments
Excellent video, really enjoyed your review.
I was just wondering if you are able to detach the camera on it or if its permanently attached to the drone itself?
Not sure if this is possible, as it's beyond my technical expertise. Thank you for the kind words!
This is very reassuring, gonna go buy one now; thanks!
Very well done Darren! Your overall professionalism shines thru brightly. The composition of your presentation, style, etc. My P2V+ arrived 2 weeks ago and I'm still on cloud nine. I love it. QUESTION for the expert tho: As an avid photog I can see the value in a UV or polarizing filter on the P2V+. It's available for the Phantom Vision, but not for the PLUS. Anything fashioned right on the lens may effect the gimbal. Any ideas Darren? Have you tried any filters?
I haven't, and unfortunately I'm not aware of one either. I think phantom would benefit immensely from it too...
Great review Darren, thanks! My wife is a realtor and I'm a home inspector so one of these will work for us both. My question is regarding wi-fi. I have read on other sites that maintaining the signal in populated areas is a challenge as other routers etc. interfere. I am sure you take your RE photos in suburbs etc. Any issues with the phantom not communicating or doing the dreaded flyaway?
So far no issues at all, whenever it disconnects it'll attempt to return to where it took off and 1 of 2 things will happen, it'll either reconnect with the remote or it'll descend and land where it took off and land. However, If you're in a dense area and you've flown overt a few buildings or trees and it disconnects, it may fly into something upon its return :-)
WiFi 2.4Ghz is only used for FPV, nothing to do with controls, which is 5.8Mhz
Phenomenal review. Extremely professional. Thank you for breaking it down the way you did. It certainly helped me with making a decision to go ahead with my purchase.
Thank you sir! Please be sure to use the link in the description to buy the Phantom. Thank you!
Excellent review!
Do you know if the Vision+ camera rig can be removed and replaced with an Zenmuse H3-3D or pano head down the road, if desired? Do you think you could shoot an aerial pano with the Vision+ rig as is?
Bravo, on caring enough to do good audio. May others follow your lead.
Thanks dan! Audio matters, it was one of the first things I learned about video - bad audio can ruin what is otherwise a great production. Glad you noticed!
Very good review. You didn't mention anything about audio. I'm guessing audio is not possible during the video filming process, due to the motor and prop noise. Is that correct?
No mic is included with the Phantom, the props would drown it out...
Darren Miles Makes sense. Thanks for the reply.
What would audio be used for in flight?
As for the issue you talked about not being able to keep oriented. You can with the computer software enable the ICU on the S2 switch of the Phantom Controller. Then you can enter Home Lock mode with the S2 switch and the phantom will remain oriented with the home takeoff location no matter what direction the phantom is pointed. While in home lock pulling back on right flight stick will always bring the phantom back towards the home takeoff location.
Also keep in mind that according to the FCC you cannot use the phantom 2 Vision+ for commercial use. We should get some actual regulations hopefully sometime this year and hopefully have an options for commercial use. People seem to be claiming they can get around this by saying they cannot charge for the photo's, however they are charging for editing the photo's from the P2V+ that they deliver to their clients.
Thanks for the orientation tip!
It's still grey - i.e. the regulations - the FCC brought a suit to the supreme court about commercial usage - but the supremes shot it down. It is in limbo, but seriously, what is the issue with using a drone to take photos for commercial purposes? I'm just taking photos from a different perspective.
I think the bigger issue is potential misuse and flying these things into commercial airliners - which has already ALMOST happened. But banning them for commercial use to take photos seems very odd to me as I have a hard time understanding the why behind that one...
Here's the most recent article.... www.dailytech.com/Court+Rules+that+FAA+Cannot+Ban+Commercial+Drones+Dismisses+10000+Fine+for+Drone+User/article34468.htm
Darren Miles Yes, this is true, makes no sense that you can go up and snap some photo's but not sell them. No change in safety or how you fly if you are selling the photo's or not. I hope they clear things up soon.
how do you enable the icu on the s2 because i always have to turn off my transmiter when i get lost????? please help ive looked in the phantom software but couldnt find.
xmunoz21 To enable IOC, connect the phantom to your computer via USB and then open the phantom assistant software. Go to the Advanced Tab on top. Then look for the IOC tab under advanced. There should be a check box to enable IOC.
Amazing video Darren! By far the best review out there.
Thank you sir!!!
Great Review!!!! I currently have two of the Blade 350Qx quads with gimbals go pros which I am very happy with, but I am getting ready to also purchase the P2V+. Thanks for the great quality review!
How long does it take to charge a battery and did it followed a second battery when you purchased it?
Wow The best review so far!
Can I plug a PC into the unit to set way points (I think that is the right word).
How much do I charge agents for pictures?
Thanks Dave, really appreciate that. I think there's a module to plug in way points, you may want to check DJI's website. As for what to charge agents, all I'll say is tread carefully until the FAA writes their regulations on the commercial use of drones. Local markets determine pricing conditions.
Would you say that the Phantom 2 plus video quality is significantly better than say the original Phantom Vision 2 camera (using an aftermarket Gimbal) such as a RotorPixel ?
Probably not, especially if you attach a higher quality video camera like the go pro 3 black with its higher resolution and bit rate. What's so appealing about the Phantom 2 Vision + is that it's an all in one package and the video and image quality are good enough.
Great review, especially on the battery life.
thanks for the great review, will get one for sure. When travel, can I take apart the gimbal/camear/base plate to flatten them for easier packing?
There's a case you can buy made specifically for the phantom - seems robust enough for travel. As far as I can tell the gimbal isn't able to be disassembled.
If the drone crashes into something/ someone, do the propellers keep on spinning or do they shut off?
We're thinking about getting into this. How much do you charge a realtor for pictures of a property
Thank you so much for this very complete and awesome review ... did I mention candid ... thanks again !
Are you using the SD card that came with the Phantom? That's a class 4 microsd card. For about $20 you can buy a class 10 32gb with a faster write speed. It might snap pictures quicker.
I upgrade to a 32GB card - and used it in the review, I have updated the firmware, but haven't taken a photo yet with the updated firmware... I'll write in an update if there's a significant improvement.
Great review! I have phantom 2 vision, of course I bought it the month before plus came out! Will probably get the plus next year after 3 comes out lol.
Simply excellent review :)
Everything covered/ all questions answered! Nice one.
Thank you very much!!
Hi Darren
Thanks for the great review.
Can you please show/describe how the camera performs when shooting during twilight.
I'm specificaly interested in the high-iso performance and how bad/good the images and videos look.
Gromov,
Low light shooting is NOT a strong suit of the Phantom Vision 2 + - the sensor is really small and noise will rear it's ugly head very quickly in low light. If you need a low light solution - you may have to spend a lot more money that can handle a larger camera with a larger sensor...
Nice review. Very pro!
I was considering this product. I don't know if I can use the video footage in the Sony Vegas editing software...
Darren Miles Love the review, I have one question can you replace the camera with the GoPro?
Not on the vision+ - but there are plenty of phantom mods out there outfitted with a zenmuse gimbal and the go pro...
oh okay great around the same Price?
Thank you for this video. I was looking for the best Video what tells me to buy the Phantom Vision 2 plus. So I´m of to go in the next 30 min. to buy one.....
Greetings from Berlin in Germany......The Price I found in Germany is 1199€ with a extra battery included.
Very Nice! although with the new DJI P3 out I am looking at that now instead. just curious, what is the name of the music at 10:23? it goes really well with the shots
Hey Darren, great info that's much appreciated. I had a thought, and you seem to be the guy to ask...Will this shoot video with the rotors turned off? With that cool gimbal, it looks like it would be an acceptable steadycam for hand held walk-throughs. Just an idea.
Never thought of that! I might have to try it... I'll let you know....
Interesting review, thanks. Could you please post up the link to the music you used over the test shots?
Thanks for the walk through Darren.Great job done.
I`m considering buying one and need to get as much info as possible and for sure,your review has helped considerably.
I have subscribed and look fwd to many other reviews.
Sincerely
JF ( UK )
Thanks JF!!
how far can it go in empty spaces ??
nice job !!!
great review, very professional. I own a vision + and was thinking of going into the restate market giving sellers an added advantage over the competition being able to get perspectives you can get any other way. Frankly the DJI is such a great deal for the money, it can't be beat.
again great review, i thought i was watching an edmunds car review on my drone. LOL Keep it up,
One last thing, look into the AMA insurance as it covers you and property and others for nearly $400K insurance for less than $50yr.
Thanks for the kind words and the insurance tip :-)
Excellent review! You've inspired me to buy one for Real Estate videos here in Malibu! Thank you for your time and expertise!
Delaney Ashley Thank you very much!!
Thanks Darren for a great review which helped me make the decision to buy one : ) You don't seem to have any qualms about flying near power lines, I've heard they can cause interference but maybe I don't need to worry so much.
As far as I know the power lines only cut down on the range, but if you're close by, you're unlikely to notice anything.
In the beginning you mentioned you didn't know what the fstop was....about 12:15mins in it says f/2.8 on the front of the camera
can you make a video showing that it can fly more than 250 meter range? Cause i saw a video with phantom 2+ that could barely fly 100 meter on a footboll fiield, so please make a video for your statement i would be very surprised if it could fly 300 meter
Thanks for your comprehensive review, very good. Please can you tell me what microphone setup you use for your videos.
Thank you for the kind words about the review!
I use a sony uwp-v1 wireless lavalier mic, it's pretty stellar and very clear - great deal for the money.
Thanks Darren. Yes, it's very clear especially considering you are reviewing in the open. Thanks again.
Your review is really helpful.and it"s like a professional ! Thanks alot
Ken Duong Thanks Ken!
Question - Can you change out the camera to a gopro ?
Thank you Darren. A great and informative review.
Thank you very much!
Hi Darren, thx a lot for this review. As a professional photographer, based in Germany, I asked myself, if this drone matches my demands, especially in still photography. I have a favour to ask you - is it possible for you to provide some unmodified raw-images?
Darren
I was thinking of getting one but now changing my mind due to all the fly away stories!
Have you had any fly aways?
No. In fact, just the opposite. If the drone gets disconnected, it'll actually come back to where it took off and descend. When the battery gets low, the Phantom automatically cuts the power to just above hover meaning you can't fly it away when the battery's low even if you wanted to. Anyway, the short answer is NO :-)
thanks but from what I hear from the stories is that it can fly away and never come back no matter what they do even turning the tx off unfortunately! but glad to hear it didnt happen to you. How long have you had it?
I'm curious, the video quality you see during the 1 minute clip he shows you is it literally that good on the screen you're holding? What about if you buy googles instead? Does the imagine quality get reduced or is it still the same as on the screen?
I really can't say as I haven't used the goggles. But I will say the image is very clear on the iPad.
Great review, really well done!
Really appreciate that, thank you!
Nice review, tho as a quick FYI it's a Phantom 2 not a Vision 2. First there was a Phantom then Phantom 2 Vision then Phantom 2 without the "vision" wifi camera then Phantom 2 Vision Plus. They are all the same Phantom 2 only difference is the camera platform and the Vision series uses 5.8ghz for control
Cool! Thank you for the clarification!
Darren - in your review it appears you're using a tablet instead of a smartphone to control the DJI Phantom 2 Vision Plus. How was this possible?
Thanks for taking the time to do such a nice review.
Jerry
Thanks Jerry! The Phantom 2 Vision+ is compatible with iOS, but I'm pretty sure it has to be a newer model of iPad in order to work - retina display or iPad air. I like it better because the screen is a lot bigger and it's easier to navigate, compose and take photos. It works GREAT!
Sorry forgot to say that this is an awesome review :)
very nice video,do you know when dji will launch groundstation for the vision ?
I do not...
Thanks for video. Does your phantom vision 2+'s camera inclined a bit? I just got mine and seems that the cam is not straight. Can you please advice? Thanks
Ever so slightly, I do have to adjust for that in post.
nice video! greedings from Cyprus Darren!
When you learn how to fly go to next level NAZA Mode. Use CL on mose on switch S2. Sl stands for Course Lock so if you point you drone one way its going to be front you can turn you drone any way you like you will always go forward as you started. I am going to make videos all tricks you can do with it. Sorry my Croatian English spelling :D
Because of your review I bought one. After 1 week+ I've only had one good flight and one crash out of about 10 attempts. I don't trust this thing yet it doesn't want to hold gps lock. I might have been wrong about buying this. DJI seems like they have better things to do than help. Still trying to debug it but it's not RTF out of the box.
Send it back. Sounds like you have a bad one.
Great job Darren. I think you may be in the wrong business. You may want to look at getting into the TV business or something like that. You have a smooth style and it comes across well. Your professional review is waaaay above the average review that is done on youtube! Take care and good luck.
Thank you sir, much appreciated!
Great review and great drone. I supposed I should hurry and buy one before they outlaw them.
I love my Phantom 2. And for me i find Gopro to be the better option. im all about recording videos. :)
Love the footage!
WOW...great video and review :)
Thank you very much!!
Excellent review! However, it seems you have FPV mode turned on for the gimbal. Is this intentional? It ruins the on board videos for me. Apart from that though, I loved it and am currently saving for this Phantom :)
As you probably know, DJI isn't renowned for their excellent documentation in their packaging. I literally found out about the FPV mode switching after I completed the review - it's much better now :-) It's a great drone!!!
Ah, at least you found out! It sure is. That gimbal provides for excellent video, at least from what I've seen!
Hi. Could you please explain the effect of FPV mode when switched On/Off? Thanks.
Bazza Hi. I don't own the Phantom (yet!), but I believe that with FPV mode turned on, the gimbal allows some horizontal movement. This is helpful if you're not flying by line-of-sight as it helps you judge the position of the Phantom, especially in turns. The video is still stabilized though, as you can see in this review. Turned off, the gimbal acts as a regular 3-axis gimbal, with full stabilization in all of those axis. Hope this helps :)
Thanks. Appreciate the explanation.
The best independent review so far I've seen for the Vision plus! So good that i downloaded this video on full hd for review. :)
But now im very confused. I was aiming for the Phantom 2 + gopro hero + black, but this review has reset me back. :(
My intention is just for aerial surveys for viable location for Radio Towers, determining CLOS between them. Can the Vision Plus fulfill the same task as the Phantom 2 + gopro hero + black for this application?
Thank you for the kind words! Truth be told, the Go Pro Hero 3 Black has better video quality - especially at 2.7K, however, is it the kind of thing that the average client will notice as much as we as photogs/videogs will notice? Probably not. I'm not sure what CLOS is or how far apart they are.
I know that the range of the Phanton 2 Vision + is about 1,500 feet, but that's in an open area without power lines - so that - I presume - has to factor into your decision making...
Darren Miles Thanks Darren for taking time to respond and clearing it up. Sorry for including some of our jargon here. CLOS just means Clear Line of Sight. Usually a helicopter is used for determining if a location is viable for a wireless back-haul link, a CLOS is required between radio towers. Since these drones are more cost effective compared to renting choppers, we are now considering purchasing this for the project. Aerial pictures and videos with sharp details are quite important for the assessment locations.
Great review,
Very iformative
one more question darren will that gimble set fit the fc40?
Fantastic review!
Thank you!!
Awesome review Bro!!!!!
Have you tried a higher speed Micro SD Card to see if that improves the time it takes to take a photo?
I did - same deal. Though some have told me that they're not seeing the delay that I'm seeing, so perhaps there is some production variance in the Phantom...?
superb review… thank you
Thank you!