How to Use an Amp Sim Through Your Actual Speaker Cab
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2021
- A video on how to Connect up an Amp Sim to your Real Guitar Speaker Cab. I tried to go as in Depth as possible to Explain how to connect it all up. I've then Slapped a Room Microphone on to Record the Result, Think of this more as a Proof of Concept than a Tone Demo.
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GOOD JOB. very clear and straight forward video. cheers
Thanks for watching!
Very cool 😎
Cool artwork behind your head
Thanks! That's Snake from Metal Gear Solid video game
Great video. I have very similar gear. Joyo Zombie, Focusrite interface. Only difference is I have a Harley Benton cab. Going to try this out. Thank you.
Thank you! Have fun!
So great, im off to build mine now, thanks! Also, gojira fuck yeah lol
Thanks for watching! Lol yeah gotta love some Gojira
Thanks for the video, Mike. I'm now running Guitar Rig 7, and I have wanted to run through my 4X12 cabinet for some time. I used to have a Peavey 120/120 Classic power amp in my rack eons ago (took up 4 rack spaces), which had 6L6 tubes. I would love to have one of those to run through. But I'm seeing and reading that solid state is preferred over tubes? I'd think the tubes would work great and get you some nice feedback when desired.
In sure what you have will still work great! The only reason I suggest solid state over tube power amp is that these plugins normally have a tube power amp simulation on as well.
Really great video, congrats! Do you think you could use two devices at once on only one cab? Like an instrument and a microphone.
Thanks for watching and sorry for late reply. Hhhmm I'd avoid putting vocals through a guitar cab, you technically could but it won't sound very good. Hope that helps
Hey man, I loved your video. Is there any way of changing tones with a sort of a pedal?
Thanks very much! Yes, you can link it up using a midi pedal plugged into the lap top. Would just need to make sure the plugin is midi compatible. Then you'd be able to do things like change amps, turn delay on and off etc. The nolly plugin is midi compatible
awesome video, your instructions were really clear. I have Volt 1 interface with only 1 input for my guitar, do I need 2 input jack for this to work?
Thanks for watching, what you have should work fine!
@@mikemitchell7529 thank you!
good shit
🤣 Cheers Alf, hope you can give this a crack in Summer Bay
@@mikemitchell7529 Blleeurrgh
thank you so much for this tutorial but the only question i have to ask, doesn't the headamp you use have 20WATTS and it has to have enough to go to the speaker that needs more than that? or does it not matter as long as you have the same one you have and you can use any speaker cabinet?
Sorry about late reply! The only thing you want to make sure is that your Amp has less or equal watts to what your speaker cabinet can handle.
Great video dude. Do you know if using and Orange Micro Dark or Micro Terror for the Power amp/Fx loop would work?
Thanks mate! Yes they'd be great choices for this
@@mikemitchell7529 That's all I needed it, thanks for helping out us newbies
Thanka for the video, but are you sure its a good idea to use a guitar cable to connect monitor output of interface to the return input of pre amp? Monitor out is line level and i believe we should use trs cable
I've never had an issue using a regular guitar cable but good point, certainly a good idea to use a TRS cable cheers.
Question: are you able to use the amp sim noise gates and do they have an effect on the real amp (which i am using as a power amp), the real cab and the guitar
(my real amp is a tube marshall dsr20)
Thank you
Hi, the noise gate on the plug-ins works great. Ive tried w neural dsp and didnt have an issue. Cheers!
Great explanation! Do you think it's better if we use a reamp box between interface and amplifier? Some say yes some say it doesn't make any difference. Have you try that?
Thanks, that's a good question, I'm not sure, is it supposed to make the signal clearer ? If so, certainly couldn't hurt. I'm unaware of it so never felt the need to do it
@@mikemitchell7529 thanks for the swift reply! Supposed to much the impedance. It's like putting directly the guitar in the amp. The signal coming out from interface its not the same like the output of a guitar, so they use a reamp box for signal correction as i understand.
@@user-zi9wg4tj4r ah cool, okay I understand. I don't have a reamp box myself but definitely keen to try it if I get one . Cheers!
Di boxes have so much jargon it's hard to tell what they do even with a lengthy description in front of you. It seems to be used mostly if you run a lot of cables over a long distance, the sound gets diminished and ground loop humming can happen and that's where the box comes in. Personally, I just run a 6' cable directly into my audient id14 interface with no signal loss or unwanted noise issues so I have no use for one. But if you're say in a studio with long wires going to different rooms or have a home studio setup like that then yeah, definitely
Hello there. Good job! I was looking for this a long time and you showed it cristal clear. But you missed to show the cabinet/Joyo wire; that is, from where the cable came from the cabinet. Below you wrote: "Finally you could get an active speaker cab which can create its own power. Laney, Friedman and Line 6 etc all have these." Sorry, but as I am a newbie I could not grasp what you mean by "active speaker cab". Also, I do not have a cab, but a Create amplifier. Is it possible to plug in the Joyo to the amp input? Thanks.
Hi Thanks for watching! Sure, to answer your questions
1. You plug in a speaker cable from the back of the joyo zombie to the input on the back of the speaker cabinet. This speaker input is on the back of the guitar cabinet
2. Active speaker cabs have their own volume and power out put on their own without being needed to be powered by an amplifier(such as the joyo zombie). If you were to get one of these, you could go straight from the interface to the input of active speaker cabs. The speaker cab I have in the video, is called a passive cab and needs an amplifier (like the joyo zombie) to power it
3. No don't plug the joyo into another amps input, you would damage both. Check the back of create amplifier, does it have an input jack that says "return". If it does, you should still be able to do this.
@@mikemitchell7529 Hi Big Mike! Thanks for your kind answer. My Create does not have a "return". It does have 3 input jacks: (1) Input; (2) headphone; and (3) External speaker.
@@joseimiranda Right, thanks for the info. Won't sound that great but you could still take the guitar lead from the output of the interface to the input of your amp. Make sure your amp is as clean sounding as possible. Still won't sound the best bit they should work
@@mikemitchell7529 OK. I got it. Many thanks. That was great. Cheers.
Hi, i want to try this rig, but what is the reason behind solid state over tube (valve) amps or power amps? also i use a volt 276, would the moniter out also work?
Hi the reason I suggest Solid state over tube is because alot of the plug-ins have a simulation of a power section already. If you have a tube amp only, don't worry it will still work, it's just a solid state power amp will be more neutral so you can tinker woth power amp settings on the plugin. Hope that helps
I want to try this out but i dont have a power amp
I do have a behringer xenyx mixer thats powered so would i be able to use that?
Hmm I can't see why that wouldn't work. You should be fine as long as everything is solid state (no tubes) in your signal flow to tinker and try it
Great video, Im a TOTAL newb to all this tech stuff.....SAy I wanted to use a cab sim from windows computer into a real cabinet through my rack rig or a real tube amp/real cab. Would I run out from my interface into where? What would plug into what/where?
Thanks, sorry about late reply but I'm afraid I don't quite understand. Did you want to use your real tube head and plug that into a cab sim? If so I have a video on how to do that too.
@@mikemitchell7529 Ya I want to use my tube amp and cab running into computers cab sim. Will a cab sim running into a real cab allow for different sounds/tones?
I wonder if it has to be a dedicated cab only or could you rig a combo amp to bypass the preamp section and use only the speaker in either passive or active mode
You could use a combo, just plug into effects return to bypass preamp section
This works great thanks! I just have a really bad feed back issue is there any way around it?
Sure, try upping the threshold in the gate function on the plug in. Neural Dsp plugins have it in the top left screen. Other plug-ins may have it as a stomp pedal section. Or, if you have one, plug in a physical noise gate pedal between your guitar and Interface. Hope that helps!
our guitarist just started using this kind of setup and is creating a video tutorial for others on how to achieve it
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Hello,
I've just tried it on a Marshall amp head. I've connected everything correctly but the sound that comes out is very weak. Do you have a solution for this? I tried on another Blackstar head but I have no sound coming out at all.
Hhhmm, if you're confident you've connected correctly, I'd suggest trying further different amps and even a different interface to isolate where the problem is.
so you need the amp haed to amplify the signal, is there any other device that can power it? i really really want my rig to be fully digital
Thanks for the question, in theory yes but a couple of ways around it. You can get a Seymour Duncan Powerstage which is a power amp only. Or a mooer baby bomb which is a power amp only and is the size of a pedal to keep things compact. Finally you could get an active speaker cab which can create its own power. Laney, Friedman and Line 6 etc all have these. Hope that helps!
@@mikemitchell7529 Hello MItchell, thank your the video. It was what I needed to doulbe confirm if it would work as I am planning to do something simmilar haha.
I am goint to add this mooer tube engine which to me is the best power amp that I've seen, it is fully tube! which is amazing. Please check this review and maybe one day you can test it as well.
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Nice slayer riff
Thanks, it's always one of the go to riffs for me while testing an amp haha
@@mikemitchell7529 as it should be ! Thanks for explaining the obvious for me. I just built my home studio finally. Was wondering which recording software you prefer and what amp modeling app you think I should use. I heard neural DSP is good .thanks in advance! I do plan on just using my jcm800 studio as well gets all those slayer tones 🤘😎
@@theavgblueberry4489 nice one! Hope you enjoy the studio. My personal favorite amp Sim is Neural Dsp Archetype Gojira, has an amazing high gain tone. If you're interested in Marshall's, there is an Amp Sim bases on Kerry Kings amplifier which is essentially a super charged JCM800
@@mikemitchell7529 that's what I was thinking ... sweet!
Can this be used live? I have Scarlett 18i20 through 6505 (using reaper) I have no pedals at all and works perfectly but I noticed I can’t turn up the volume through the head, only through the monitor volume knob on the interface. Anything else I need to make this work live or am I good? Thanks man 🙏🏽
Yup, should definitely work! Yeah the volume only works through the Audio Interface I'm afraid. I measured about 108 Decibels with about 3/4 volume. I would double check at a band practice first but you should be good to go!
@@mikemitchell7529 Thanks bro!
Get a power amp
Would i be able to use a Hughes and Kettner Tubemeister 36 ?
Yes absolutely !
The zombie has a best distortion for you? that any dsp ? Thank you!!
Hi, absolutely love the zombie. It's heavy as, versatile and affordable
Seems an easy hookup. -Will any amp with a return work?
Yes should do!
does this work with solid state combo amps?
Yes, should do if it has an effects loop
@@mikemitchell7529yes, Peavey special 212, sounds better with IRs on though
the master volume of the amp do nothing ? you have only the volume out of the audio interface to work with ?
That's correct but if you have a higher wattage amp it should be loud enough
yeah ill just stick to my 2x12 combos and invest in speakers and mics.🤔🍻
Fair enough, do whatever works for you. Cheers
Is there any way you can put it through an actual head to power it instead of a power amp?
Hi yes this will work w any amp that has an effects loop
@@mikemitchell7529 so do I just plug the interface into the effects loop?
@@suomzz2487 If you follow the instructions on the video that should make sense. That wee joyo zombie is actually a guitar amplifier.
@@mikemitchell7529 okay thank you for the great video
@@suomzz2487 cheers for watching!