History of Duel - Why the European Nobles Fought

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  3 роки тому +309

    The art and animations for this video were made by Haley Castel Branco. Check out her work here instagram.com/abrantina_artistica/ and here www.artstation.com/abrantina
    If that video fails, I will trial by combat someone. Yes, it will be streamed.

    • @restitutororbis1
      @restitutororbis1 3 роки тому +10

      Will you have "The Mountain" from GoT as your champion?

    • @evilinside6327
      @evilinside6327 3 роки тому +2

      Let us know who the opponent will be so we can get some eyeballs to it, perhaps make some $ out of someone's misery. It is the way of the 21st century. Either that or get them canceled! The modern equivalent of a middle ages duel.

    • @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes
      @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes 3 роки тому

      Looking like you'll need to make arrangements.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  3 роки тому +15

      @@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes yep. Going to choose the weakest of our subscribers

    • @slic6443
      @slic6443 3 роки тому +1

      Please make a video about battle of didgori

  • @DestroyerOfSense000
    @DestroyerOfSense000 3 роки тому +706

    My history professor had an interesting take on judicial duels. He pointed out that actual combat was only the final step in the process, and that it would be preceded by prolonged prayer, purification, etc. The point of this was, at least partially, to impress on both parties the true gravity of the situation, so that the guilty one would voluntarily confess, or that the two would resolve the matter some other way. In essence, the whole process was designed to force them to ask themselves, "Do you *really* want to do this?", over and over again, in the hopes that they would eventually say "No!"

    • @eldermoose7938
      @eldermoose7938 3 роки тому +78

      Basically playing chicken with your life until someone caves

    • @DestroyerOfSense000
      @DestroyerOfSense000 3 роки тому +106

      @@eldermoose7938 Also, as mentioned in the video, the belief that the outcome of a duel would be determined by God's judgment was widespread and heartfelt. So, even if he was confident he could outfight his opponent, a guilty man might start having second thoughts.

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 3 роки тому +3

      Sounds kind of similar to later early modern duels with multiple pre-determined points of drop out.

    • @fluffybunny5518
      @fluffybunny5518 3 роки тому +10

      @@DestroyerOfSense000 Isn't there a little flaw in that logic? A person guilty of a crime like murder, torture, forcing themself upon someone,... already did something that clearly was not approved of by church and god. If that person actually feared an all-powerful god, the crime would have not been comitted in the first place. In most cases those people won't judge their situation based on their "non-existent" fear of god, but simply if they can out-skill the opponent... in worst case an opponent too brainwashed to realize that god won't support her/him.

    • @kcl5038
      @kcl5038 3 роки тому +20

      @@fluffybunny5518 A lot of people believed they could "repent for their sins". They could rape, kill, and plunder and then go to the church for confession and by confessing their sins they were free from guilt. To later lie and say you did not commit those sins would be an affront to god. Of course its not logical by todays standards, but it made perfect sense to them at the time.

  • @Mr_M_History
    @Mr_M_History 3 роки тому +828

    I don't want to imagine a history teaching world without kings and generals. Perfect material for my 8th grade class!

    • @funkyflurry88
      @funkyflurry88 3 роки тому +51

      I wish my history teachers used these videos when I was in school damn

    • @therealdonaldtrumpjr
      @therealdonaldtrumpjr 3 роки тому +35

      “Teacher”: Hi class, put away your phones, today we are watching UA-cam videos again.
      Students who haven’t given up: But teacher, we don’t want to stare at a screen anymore, we want interpersonal engagement to make things engaging and relatable.
      Teacher: Watch the video, I have papers to grade. We can make it engaging by giving you a quiz at the end.
      Students: 我们将成为中国人的奴隶

    • @_Woody_
      @_Woody_ 3 роки тому +28

      @@therealdonaldtrumpjr
      You must be fun at parties

    • @sethmichaelmay8119
      @sethmichaelmay8119 3 роки тому +15

      The thing you don't want to imagine is my childhood history class. You are lucky in some ways, the characters of history are fascinating, but most teachers are not doing what they want to do and lack the talent for storytelling or even passion for the subject. Go deeper into history... otherwise we are doomed to repeat it.

    • @tsmlaska7761
      @tsmlaska7761 3 роки тому +2

      @Jinx Vanderz Bro I have homework but internet not open help pls ( TRUE or false )
      1) Timurid = Uzbek ?
      2) Seljuk = Turkish
      3) Genghis khan = TURKIC
      4) mughal = arab
      5) Ottoman = Turkish
      6) Abbasid = TURKIC
      7) Safavid = TURKİC

  • @dminard1
    @dminard1 3 роки тому +197

    The art quality of these videos has improved so much in the last couple years. Kings and Generals was always compelling and informative but now they are a joy to look at as well. It's quite an accomplishment that a little youtube channel puts out better produced content than the likes of History channel or Netflix.

    • @merlingt1
      @merlingt1 3 роки тому +7

      Agreed ! I noticed this too. It looks like they have been testing different art styles lately. I have not been a fan of some drawing in the last few episodes. This episode however is amazing.

    • @TaRAAASHBAGS
      @TaRAAASHBAGS Рік тому +1

      History Channel is white trash reality TV and Netflix is globalist propaganda.

  • @princepscivitatis4083
    @princepscivitatis4083 3 роки тому +261

    Fun fact: It was 1283 and the War of the Sicilian Vespers was ongoing. The Aragonese were on the warpath and after conquering Sicily and ousting King Charles I of Anjou, the Aragonese had invaded mainland France. By now the Calabrian coastline was Aragonese and this established beach-head proved devastating to France, namely King Philip III.
    So, Charles I of Anjou challenged King Peter III of Aragon to a duel to settle the dispute and end the war once and for all (winner takes all). As I've said, the Aragonese were on the up and up and gambling all that progress on a duel seemed moronic. BUT Peter agreed.
    Each combatant was to be accompanied by 100 Knights. The duel was to be held in Bordeaux with Philip III acting as host. King Edward I "longshanks" of England was set to judge. This was to be the grandest duel in recorded European history.
    When all was set, and Peter III had departed to Bordeaux, Pope Martin IV decided to be a buzz kill. He threatened Edward with excommunication if he presided over the tournament. Then, along with Charles and Philip, the Pope conspired to ambush the Aragonese King during his journey to Bordeaux. French men-at-arms were mobilized to hunt down the King. Sensing the ambush, the King and his 100 Knights fought their way out of France. When they reached the Calabrian coast, only the King and 7 Knights were left. But they had left a trail of 413 dead french knights behind them.
    Pope Martin IV singlehandedly eradicated such duels from taking place in Europe ever again.

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +9

      what was Pope Martin IV's angle?

    • @des12zero
      @des12zero 3 роки тому +21

      This needs to become a movie

    • @nolletthibault2031
      @nolletthibault2031 3 роки тому +3

      Mind if I ask for source ?

    • @reee_4067
      @reee_4067 3 роки тому +13

      Popes ruining everything since 1283

    • @redmonkey4351
      @redmonkey4351 3 роки тому +37

      @@MusMasi Martin was a French pope in a time when Aragonese power expanded at the cost of French and Papal power. Aragon had made numerous plays at wresting control of Sicily and Naples from their realms, and the pope had already excommunicated the Aragonese king, declared his crown forfeit, and ordered a crusade against the Aragonese. Basically, secular power politics vested with "divine" authority.

  • @JohnDoe-ug3su
    @JohnDoe-ug3su 3 роки тому +216

    Dang that last trial by combat is like in the movies
    "YIELD"
    "NAY"
    Stab

  • @NobodyHere951
    @NobodyHere951 3 роки тому +255

    "Trial by combat! Right now!"
    "What? Fight you? That's no trial, that's an execution."

    • @joeljanssonhernstrom1819
      @joeljanssonhernstrom1819 3 роки тому +10

      Best comment I ever recieved

    • @samueldullaart
      @samueldullaart 3 роки тому +16

      DAUBENY!

    • @Luke_Danger
      @Luke_Danger 3 роки тому +11

      "Then fight my second!"

    • @daubeny6796
      @daubeny6796 3 роки тому +2

      @@samueldullaart
      Yes?

    • @R2D2xC28
      @R2D2xC28 3 роки тому +12

      I challenge you to a duel..
      A fight to the death
      Mano to mano
      Man to man
      Just you and me
      And my Guuuuaaaarrrddds....
      Men in tight

  • @nazeem8680
    @nazeem8680 3 роки тому +338

    Fun fact: in 2002 Saddam hussein offered to settle the iraq conflict by duel, where each member of government would face his counterpart. Saddam himself would face Bush in an epic fight. but bush administration refused and mocked the idea

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +47

      you would offer something like that when you are going to lose, so have nothing to lose.

    • @dawarrior95
      @dawarrior95 3 роки тому +65

      LOL! Wouldn't that have been something.

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +96

      @@dawarrior95 i mean if they where the only people to perish I would be all for it.

    • @fatihaltntop8640
      @fatihaltntop8640 3 роки тому +114

      still more reasonable solution then invading Iraq.

    • @reee_4067
      @reee_4067 3 роки тому +43

      Bush probably would get rekt in 1 vs 1.

  • @user-sj6og7wi2q
    @user-sj6og7wi2q 3 роки тому +231

    "Ahh, the art of survival and my good old friend, trial by combat!" - *Tyrion Lannister*

  • @esoterra8050
    @esoterra8050 3 роки тому +245

    Lysa : "You don't fight with honor!" Bronn: "No... he did."

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +7

      @Diego S. maybe r-kelly can get a sky cell?

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +7

      @Diego S. moon door too quick, sky cell ensures more suffering.

    • @tsmlaska7761
      @tsmlaska7761 3 роки тому

      @Diego S. Bro I have homework but internet not open help pls ( TRUE or false )
      1) Timurid = Uzbek ?
      2) Seljuk = Turkish
      3) Genghis khan = TURKIC
      4) mughal = arab
      5) Ottoman = Turkish
      6) Avars = TURKIC
      7) Safavid = ARAB
      8) Sassanid = persian

    • @esoterra8050
      @esoterra8050 3 роки тому +2

      @@tsmlaska7761 I'm Turkish. I think I can help you:
      1) Timurid = Turko-Mongol
      3) Genghis Khan = Mongol
      4) Mughal = Turko-Mongol
      7) Safavid = Persian
      8) Sassanid = Persian
      The rest is correct.

    • @simonrobillard
      @simonrobillard 3 роки тому +12

      Ironically, Bronn gave Lysa plenty of time to drop the charges and plead mercy for her champion, but she refused and Bronn had no choice but to kill ser Vardis. Bronn was more honorable than her in the end.

  • @aidanrogers4438
    @aidanrogers4438 3 роки тому +40

    I saw The Last Duel today and I thought it was good. It’s not action packed, so if you want a fast paced Medieval thriller then it’s not for you. There are some brief battle scenes, in Limoges & Scotland, but the main focus is on the three main people of the trial. It’s a Rashomon-type of narrative, with three chapters showing roughly the same events, but from the view of either Jean, Marguerite and Jaques, which is why it’s a long film. The ending duel does the descriptions justice and they also clearly pick a side in whether Le Gris was innocent or not.

  • @RoboticDragon
    @RoboticDragon 3 роки тому +315

    I am assuming this is inspired by the new movie The Last Duel, going to see it this weekend, looks awesome.

    • @ozza4496
      @ozza4496 3 роки тому +3

      I clicked thinking they got sponsored by the studio. Unfortunately they weren't.

    • @RafaelValle12
      @RafaelValle12 3 роки тому +46

      @@lahire4943 bro. Just enjoy the story. Since we'll never actually know the full truth of events, no need to get upset about it either way.

    • @romanbarna1316
      @romanbarna1316 3 роки тому +88

      @@lahire4943
      You do realize that most historians believe that she was truly raped? Also, back then, even if a woman could prove 100% that she was raped, she would still be blamed and shamed for it. Besides, if Le Gris had won, she would've been burned at the stake.
      Finally, cut down on the conservative culture war stuff. Not every movie you dislike is "feminist propaganda". It makes you sound obnoxious.

    • @johnhenry4844
      @johnhenry4844 3 роки тому +14

      @Herr Spiegel
      You have no idea about this fuckin case do you, Le gris own alibi was provided by a man who was caught raping someone during Le gris trial.
      😕

    • @johnhenry4844
      @johnhenry4844 3 роки тому +22

      @@lahire4943
      Fam that’s just real life, examine the evidence of the case and general likelihood, considering what would have happened to her if she was founding guilty of false testimony in comparison to staying quiet.
      And maybe chill with being a anti-fem incel

  • @h.p6016
    @h.p6016 3 роки тому +12

    The art is unbelievably beautiful in this video! Excellent job!

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 3 роки тому +50

    "Me and You. 2 PM, in front of the church!"
    "Swords or Pistols?"
    "Bare Hands".
    "Fair enough".
    "Stay there, or get out from this city!"
    "Sure, I wouldn't lose an event like your funeral...".

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 3 роки тому +46

    I can relate to this. When we were children, my sister and I would dispute on who gets the last piece of chocolate. As God decreed, it can only be settled by an honorable staring contest.

  • @MrKFNeverGiveUp
    @MrKFNeverGiveUp 3 роки тому +27

    Politicians should be challenged to a duel if they keep making a complete balls of things!

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +5

      duel each other and we can watch?

  • @merlingt1
    @merlingt1 3 роки тому +6

    The art style in the drawing in this episode are top notch!

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 3 роки тому +95

    Duels are always fascinating, nothing more badass than going up to an army by yourself and calling out whoever 😁👍

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +5

      then getting shot, actually be a good move to provoking the enemy army into a prepared trap

    • @dawarrior95
      @dawarrior95 3 роки тому +6

      The Muslims did this a lot to the Byzantines during their early expansion wars. Badass.

    • @tsmlaska7761
      @tsmlaska7761 3 роки тому +1

      @@MusMasi Bro I have homework but internet not open help pls ( TRUE or false )
      1) Timurid = Uzbek ?
      2) Seljuk = Turkish
      3) Genghis khan = TURKIC
      4) mughal = arab
      5) Ottoman = Turkish
      6) Abbasid = TURKIC
      7) Safavid = TURKİC

    • @tsmlaska7761
      @tsmlaska7761 3 роки тому

      @@dawarrior95 Bro I have homework but internet not open help pls ( TRUE or false )
      1) Timurid = Uzbek ?
      2) Seljuk = Turkish
      3) Genghis khan = TURKIC
      4) mughal = arab
      5) Ottoman = Turkish
      6) Abbasid = TURKIC
      7) Safavid = TURKİC

    • @μήλο-τ7υ
      @μήλο-τ7υ 3 роки тому +3

      @@tsmlaska7761 Timurid=Turkic/Mongoloids
      Genghis Khan= Mongoloid
      Mughal=Uzbek,Mongoloids
      Ottoman=Oghuz Turks
      Abbasid=Arabs
      Safavid= Persians

  • @papazoulou9326
    @papazoulou9326 3 роки тому +58

    15:05 "until his death in 1396". Yup, at the battle of Nicopolis against the Ottomans. Small world, eh?

    • @darthvenator2487
      @darthvenator2487 3 роки тому +14

      Die for the true faith is a great honor, his martyrdom inspired countless. Great warriors gone to heavens that day.

    • @geletoz
      @geletoz 3 роки тому +8

      @@darthvenator2487 bro? Lmao...they casually sacked Christian cities as well if not more

    • @darthvenator2487
      @darthvenator2487 3 роки тому

      @@geletozIf the Romans had not committed the massacre of the Latins, the sack of Constantinople would not have taken place. What happened in 1204 was absolutely terrible but could bê avoided.

    • @andro7862
      @andro7862 3 роки тому +5

      @@darthvenator2487 What about the sack of Zadar, how would you justify that? The crusades were just a pillaging excursion for the absolute scum of Europe.

    • @darthvenator2487
      @darthvenator2487 3 роки тому

      @@andro7862 i blame those greedy Venezians.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 роки тому +126

    The best way to make your opponent leave the boundaries of the duel arena, is to simply say, *NI!*

    • @misy5174
      @misy5174 3 роки тому +12

      Stop! Don't say that horrible word

    • @aleksapetrovic6519
      @aleksapetrovic6519 3 роки тому +4

      'Tis but a scratch.

    • @simle6010
      @simle6010 3 роки тому +5

      Obviously the best way to win the duel is to end him rightly by throwing a pommel.

    • @elbentos7803
      @elbentos7803 3 роки тому +9

      Or, when facing english knights, either :
      - You mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries !
      - I fart in your general direction !

    • @tsmlaska7761
      @tsmlaska7761 3 роки тому

      @Lee harry enty Bro I have homework but internet not open help pls ( TRUE or false )
      1) Timurid = Uzbek ?
      2) Seljuk = Turkish
      3) Genghis khan = TURKIC
      4) mughal = arab
      5) Ottoman = Turkish
      6) Abbasid = TURKIC
      7) Safavid = TURKİC

  • @steyn1775
    @steyn1775 3 роки тому +7

    The art pieces with chainmail where done wonderfully!
    It looked quite good to look at!
    Cheers to the artist(s?)!

  • @Adilesq
    @Adilesq 3 роки тому +147

    Men in past: “We will fight and die with honour”
    Men now: “I will install a spyware in his phone”

    • @evilinside6327
      @evilinside6327 3 роки тому +15

      We still fight but we don't schedule it in advance. It's usually on the highway after some back and forth and it's usually very short. At least back then people took their honor and how people thought of them and their behavior in consideration. Now there is very little honor and common sense. You can't even say anything online and you get attacked. We've changed and not for the better. Back then people had a healthy fear of dying in a duel or ending up in prison and losing their wealth due to lying, raping, killing someone or stealing. Today, politicians, big corporations, media networks, social media networks, public workers lie with impunity and nobody gets punished.

    • @erikjohnson9075
      @erikjohnson9075 3 роки тому +29

      @@evilinside6327 you also have a biased and romanticized view of history. Those times were considerably more violent and unforgiving. Knights were more akin to gangsters than lancelot.

    • @matheuscerqueira7952
      @matheuscerqueira7952 3 роки тому +1

      But a woman testimony is still not enough to prove she was raped

    • @Adilesq
      @Adilesq 3 роки тому +5

      @@matheuscerqueira7952 No time is ideal.
      Today even a false testimony by women can land men in jail for years.
      There are pros and cons!

    • @johnhenry4844
      @johnhenry4844 3 роки тому +3

      @@Adilesq
      Literally 300x more likely to sexually assaulted yourself than fasley accused of anything, never mind most rape cases either never get reported, never get prosecuted or the offender takes a reduced charge for a plea.
      Easy on the victim complex it’s just pathetic

  • @PelagiusPrinceps
    @PelagiusPrinceps 2 роки тому +1

    The art of this episodie is beatifull!!

  • @Mirko1913
    @Mirko1913 3 роки тому +3

    It's like there's not a single curious aspect of life back in time Kings and Generals wouldn't study and present to us. I love it!

  • @MrFox-ip3jf
    @MrFox-ip3jf 3 роки тому +1

    This channel has become a new fav, thanks for all the hard work on the vids

  • @Immopimmo
    @Immopimmo 3 роки тому +28

    I like judicial duels. They have very interesting fencing manuals associated with them with all manners of exotic weaponry. From a sock with a rock in it to large spiked shields and sword/mace/axe/warhammer combo weapons. 😁

  • @altinmares8363
    @altinmares8363 3 роки тому +15

    Kings and Generals please post more videos about
    -Aristotle teaching Alexander The Great
    -Tengrism
    -Ottoman Empire astronomy and scholars (ulema)
    -Islamic civilization (discoveries/achievements in Cordoba)
    -The golden age of Jewish culture in Spain

  • @JawsOfHistory
    @JawsOfHistory 3 роки тому +17

    It's funny how this tends to go in trends. There are always periods of history where duels would settle the fate of battles. And then you would also have the Romans who, when their man lost the duel, usually became so enrage that they would attack the enemy, instead of honouring their agreement.

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 3 роки тому

      Was there a duel that was actually honored?

    • @AV57
      @AV57 3 роки тому +1

      @@MidlifeCrisisJoe, Greeks would occasionally settle battles/wars with duels. The Iliad certainly established the idea that wars could be decided with one-on-one combat, and that the victor deserved the loyalty of both sides of the confrontation. Pyrrhus of Epirus was fairly famous for challenging his enemy generals/kings to duels, rather than throwing away thousands of Greek lives just to settle who should be king of various city-states. Granted, Pyrrhus only seemed to do it, because he was a great fighter and he often had financial troubles, so it behooved him to end battles as quickly as possible. His enemies often knew that, and would usually not play into his hands and give him the duel.

    • @AV57
      @AV57 3 роки тому

      @@MidlifeCrisisJoe, well, the Iliad doesn’t propose any scenarios where the entire war would be settled on a duel, but it did set up the idealistic vision of how generals/kings ought to perform during battle. And I think from there it’s not too difficult, depending upon what the battle is being fought over, for the battle to be decided completely over the duel itself. If the two armies are simply there to settle a claim over who reigns over a territory, then why not just let the two men with the competing claims settle it with a duel, rather than send all their best men to kill each other? I think that’s probably one of the lessons to be learned from the Iliad. Perhaps Troy and Greece could have survived the coming dark age if they had simply let Priam and Agamemnon duel, or Paris and Menelaus, or Hector and Achilles have a duel and be done with it. But no, they had to drag it out 10 years burn down a perfectly good city for one pretty lady.

    • @geletoz
      @geletoz 3 роки тому

      @@tylerdurden3722 usually, the armies retreat back from the battlefield and come back another day if not next day...majority of the cases.

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 3 роки тому

      @@MidlifeCrisisJoe I was referring to single combat used to determine the outcome of a battle, in order to avoid the actual battle.
      I only know of the instance where Sparta and Argos sent 300 men each to fight out a dispute. That didn't go as planned.
      I know of plenty of instances of random single combat before or during battle.
      These didn't enrage the opponent. It demoralized the side of the losing champion, while invigorating the side of the winning champion.
      King Pyrrhus of Epirus (Alexander the Great's nephew) is famous for fighting such deuls. Usually an enemy champion would try to find their way to him during battle, then both armies would stop fighting and watch the duel.
      When Pyrrhus fought the Romans, and slayed their champion, it gave his army the moral boost it needed to turn the tide in his favor.

  • @tonyh9600
    @tonyh9600 3 роки тому +5

    This did more to explain what was going on than the movies trailer. Thank you.

  • @Stoney_AKA_James
    @Stoney_AKA_James 3 роки тому +1

    Fun fact:
    Duels using swords, rapiers, bowie knives, percussion firearms, etc. were quite common in New Orleans Louisiana (specifically at the Duelling Oaks in City Park).
    Dueling officially ended in Louisiana in the late 1800s.

  • @peterlynchchannel
    @peterlynchchannel 3 роки тому +3

    8:30 I found him! Look, he's right in the middle, he's one of the combatants in the trial by combat. I can't believe it took me so long, he blends in so well

  • @ftr1453
    @ftr1453 3 роки тому +14

    The book by Eric Jaeger is really awesome. I read it as easy as a novel. I truly reccomend it to everybody

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 3 роки тому +15

    "There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of the law and in the name of justice"
    - Montesquieu

  • @waleedkhalid7486
    @waleedkhalid7486 3 роки тому +8

    As always, a fascinating topic! It is interesting to see how we've evolved our penal codes over time as new techniques to find out the truth of events were developed. While using mortal combat as a means to decide innocence is...suspect...it was probably the best way to provide an end to cases where there just isn't enough evidence to decide who is right - such as in rape cases like the one in this video - she very easily could have lied in order to help her husband's standing by slandering his rival. Objectively, we just cannot know what happened. Cases like this in the modern day are usually tried in the court of public opinion (arguably the worst type of court), so the jury is still out on whether we've made progress on that front.

    • @skyworm8006
      @skyworm8006 3 роки тому

      Yeah. It's also better than developing blood feuds. Germanic peoples would resort to violence when a dispute could not be resolved, which could turn into a blood feud. Deciding to resolve the dispute definitively by a duel avoids this. Normally crimes would be resolved with payment, but there are many things that are hard to prove either way or demand retaliation.

  • @jessicamorris4748
    @jessicamorris4748 3 роки тому +13

    So rather than interview witnesses, interview additional witnesses when necessary, and leave no stone unturned when gathering physical evidence or waiting for more evidence to come to light, it was decided that facts (and a person's reputation or life) would be determined by brutal combat and which person could more cleverly outmanuver the other. I think this form of trial HAS made a comeback, it is called social media!

  • @ZergleJerk
    @ZergleJerk 3 роки тому +5

    I'm hoping you mention the duels where they gave the two "defendants" weird weapons. Like the giant spiked shields that neither person was trained in (usually.)

  • @_Abjuranax_
    @_Abjuranax_ 3 роки тому +8

    There was also old Scottish Law where a man and wife could duke it out in the town square to settle their differences with essentially what were cricket bats. However, the man had to stand in a pit up to his waist, so that he did not have an undue advantage over his wife, lol.

  • @gopalb1704
    @gopalb1704 3 роки тому +7

    The same custom existed in Kerala, our state in India in the Malabar area. The warriors were called Chekavars. These fights have given rise to many folklore epics.

  • @amrshatlaa9617
    @amrshatlaa9617 3 роки тому +29

    in his book "Kitab al-I'tibar" , Arab knight who fought the crusaders "Usama ibn Munqidh" criticizes the barbaric nature of crusaders' judicial system of
    1- dueling
    2- the second is a man being dropped into a cask of water. If the man drowned he was innocent and if he floated he was guilty ,, he says :-
    "This man did his best to sink when they dropped him into the water, but he could not do it. So he had to submit to their sentence against him -may Allah's curse be upon them!"

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +1

      not much use being innocent if your dead, unless its to spare your family and friends from further retribution.

    • @travisadams4470
      @travisadams4470 3 роки тому +9

      Fast forward to today and Shria law.... curses upon Mohamed

    • @amrshatlaa9617
      @amrshatlaa9617 3 роки тому +6

      @@travisadams4470 under sharia law the middle east was one of the most multicultural , multi-ethnical places on the planet until Europeans invented judeo-christian Zionism
      just 150 years ago the middle east had mizrahi jews , siphardi jews , druze , amazighi people , kurds , turks , nubians , arabs , coptic christians , latin christians etc etc
      at the same time what place had "laws" that allowed more ethnicities , races , religions to coexist ?

    • @travisadams4470
      @travisadams4470 3 роки тому +3

      @@amrshatlaa9617 I would argue you are wrong..... but look at the Middle east now and sharia law! Take your left hand and suck on it!

    • @amrshatlaa9617
      @amrshatlaa9617 3 роки тому +3

      @@travisadams4470 the middle east is NOT ruled by sharia law now . we've regressed for many reasons but religion is not one of them , the muslim golden age was right after the earliest islamic conquests when the religion was pure and simple . our ignorance is what's hampering us now not our religion

  • @sevoo1579
    @sevoo1579 2 роки тому +1

    My neighbor talks on my face but comes all smooth when he is in front of me. I wish duels still existed today. We shouldn't be able to talk on people without accepting the consequences.

  • @Mrkabrat
    @Mrkabrat 3 роки тому +6

    -So shall we solves this issue with diplomacy?
    +Takes too long, let's just fight to the death and whomever wins is right
    -Eh, works for me

  • @puneetmishra4726
    @puneetmishra4726 3 роки тому +157

    I WILL NOT GIVE MY LIFE FOR JOFFREY'S MURDER AND I KNOW I'LL GET NO JUSTICE HERE, SO I WILL LET THE GODS DECIDE MY FATE.
    *I DEMAND A TRIAL BY COMBAT*

    • @_Woody_
      @_Woody_ 3 роки тому +8

      Exactly

    • @matheusrondelleite8015
      @matheusrondelleite8015 3 роки тому +6

      Ah, I see that you're a man of culture as well

    • @dawarrior95
      @dawarrior95 3 роки тому +7

      Two of the greatest episodes...The trial and the combat.

    • @tsmlaska7761
      @tsmlaska7761 3 роки тому +1

      @@dawarrior95 Bro I have homework but internet not open help pls ( TRUE or false )
      1) Timurid = Uzbek ?
      2) Seljuk = Turkish
      3) Genghis khan = TURKIC
      4) mughal = arab
      5) Ottoman = Turkish
      6) Abbasid = TURKIC
      7) Safavid = TURKİC

    • @tsmlaska7761
      @tsmlaska7761 3 роки тому +1

      @@matheusrondelleite8015 Bro I have homework but internet not open help pls ( TRUE or false )
      1) Timurid = Uzbek ?
      2) Seljuk = Turkish
      3) Genghis khan = TURKIC
      4) mughal = arab
      5) Ottoman = Turkish
      6) Abbasid = TURKIC
      7) Safavid = TURKİC

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali186 3 роки тому +2

    Finally, some awesome animation after a long time!

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 роки тому +5

    Another fascinating video! Here's an even latter interesting example of such a fight:
    In Krakow, on the 28th of January 1518, a sensational duel took place between two courtiers of King Sigismund I the Old; Andrzej Zakrzewski and Jan Zambocki, to finally end a prolonged defamation trial, which was going on since 1514 (allegedly Zakrzewski called Zambowski a heretic-sympathiser and a low-born thief).
    The duel was observed by the King himself, the ambassador of the Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian I Habsburg - Sigismund Herberstein, many dignitaries, nobles and townsfolk. Like the one depicted in the video, the duel started on horseback with lances and proceeded to a swordfight on foot. Zambocki won, while heavily wounding Zakrzewski.
    The latter survived but the horse of Zambocki was killed in the fight. A humanist writer, poet, and the future Archbishop of Gniezno, Andrzej Krzycki wrote an elegy in Latin for the poor noble steed.
    Perhaps it was more like an honour duel approved by the authorities, than an actual judicial duel, I'm not really sure how to interpret it.
    Source: Jan Szymczak, Pojedynki i harce, turnieje i gonitwy. Walki o życie, cześć, sławę i pieniądze w Polsce Piastów i Jagiellonów, Warszawa 2008, p. 35-39.

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +1

      poor horse, should of made them fight on foot only

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 роки тому

      @@MusMasi Yeah...

  • @sevoo1579
    @sevoo1579 2 роки тому +1

    It was known that Jacques Le Gris was in love with Margeritte, however no one imagined that he could dare to go that far.

  • @parfner666
    @parfner666 3 роки тому +5

    We need to bring back Trial by combat

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому

      youtube boxing

  • @aquila4228
    @aquila4228 3 роки тому +1

    Great video!
    Going to watch the film tomorrow, very much looking forward to it

  • @MegaGangsta4life
    @MegaGangsta4life 3 роки тому +7

    Lol, Judge Judy would be lit if we had Defendant vs Plaintiff in the court of battle 😄😄😄

  • @vectorstrike
    @vectorstrike 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome art and content!
    And I'm glad the duel shown in the video had a good ending

  • @JonathanReynolds1
    @JonathanReynolds1 3 роки тому +1

    Ridley Scott filmed a movie about this duel (Carrouge and Le Gris) featuring Matt Damon. The movie is called “The Last Duel”.

  • @belialord
    @belialord 3 роки тому +21

    5:09 I challenge the editor to a trial by combat in order to settle this mistake

    • @crazygrainger2006
      @crazygrainger2006 3 роки тому +7

      You can say that again.

    • @pp-wo1sd
      @pp-wo1sd 3 роки тому

      @@MidlifeCrisisJoe
      No rust 1v1's ?

    • @geletoz
      @geletoz 3 роки тому

      You gotta prove that there is no other way to prove your case...didn't you watch the stuff? There are rules

  • @r4mar89
    @r4mar89 3 роки тому +3

    Who wouldn't want to watch Matt Damon and Adam Driver beating each other up.

  • @grahamturner1290
    @grahamturner1290 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this! A video dealing with Viking trial by combat would be good : the subject is well documented. ⚔️

  • @heimdalshorn
    @heimdalshorn 3 роки тому +8

    nice video, but some misinformation. It is not correct, that from the high middle ages on, it was a thing of the nobility only, because only they are allowed to posses and carry arms . E.g. in the German regions it was common, that even peasants have arms, sometimes there are even obligations to do so. Burghers and peasants could also fight judicial duels and did so and there where many forms of this duels with a big variety of specialised weapons, from swords to clubs or spiked shields. In most German places ist was also possible (especially within burghers and peasants) that a women fight a judicial duel against a man, with special rules and weapons, to make it a more equal fight. In the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation, the judical duel was not frequent, but steady and was common till the beginning of the 16. century.

  • @elvisthepelvis2464
    @elvisthepelvis2464 3 роки тому +12

    I would have gone mad if I heard that Carrouges lost the duel. Man was a legend, they should make a movie about him.

    • @femtoservants
      @femtoservants 3 роки тому +4

      well they did it with the film The last duel. And the movie is great for the most part (acting, writing, costume, set, cinematography) etc... Except how they portrayed Jean de carrouges, where he is shown to be a jerk lacking any empathy for his wife.
      It's probably the biggest writing flaw of the film, I have looked at many archives as possible to see if Jean was a selfish husband to his wife and I haven't found any evidence of that. Quite the contrary.

    • @monkeyseemonkeydo1794
      @monkeyseemonkeydo1794 3 роки тому +1

      @@femtoservants that's just hollywood. patriarchy and men are portrayed either as incompetent losers or misogynistic egotistical pigs.

  • @Heisen2420
    @Heisen2420 3 роки тому +6

    *sign* The Good old Days, where you can win an argument by killing your opponent in personal honorable combat.

  • @laylobinson5839
    @laylobinson5839 3 роки тому +6

    Imagine a King fighting his own duel, wouldn't that be a sight?

    • @taskforceknight9336
      @taskforceknight9336 2 роки тому

      There have been many warrior kings through out history from King Henry V to Roman Emperor Trajan etc

    • @taskforceknight9336
      @taskforceknight9336 2 роки тому

      King Leonidas of Sparta too

  • @rsstenger5113
    @rsstenger5113 3 роки тому +5

    Just in time for the new movie "The Last Duel"

  • @aaronmarks9366
    @aaronmarks9366 3 роки тому +2

    K&G, can you guys do a video on the history of the city of Ctesiphon? How it was founded, what life was like in the city over the centuries, and how it fell and was abandoned.

  • @TheMambojack
    @TheMambojack 3 роки тому +1

    Right on the day "The Duel" aired on Netflix and the french monolythic youtuber Nota Bene's video on that subject was published , that is indeed a very nice tactical move Kings and Generals !

  • @darthveatay
    @darthveatay 3 роки тому +1

    I read somewhere that a criminal in the U.S had requested a trial by combat a few years ago. He got turned down off course

    • @RafaelValle12
      @RafaelValle12 3 роки тому

      Youre not a criminal until you're convicted. A defendant/the accused requested trial by combat.

    • @RafaelValle12
      @RafaelValle12 3 роки тому

      If he requested it after he was convicted, that would be dumb but criminal would be the right word.

  • @tyleraltman-ApexTJ2
    @tyleraltman-ApexTJ2 3 роки тому

    Oh nice glad you did a video on this!

  • @TEO14444
    @TEO14444 3 роки тому +2

    3:07 nice Dark Souls ester egg

  • @JohnnyElRed
    @JohnnyElRed 3 роки тому +46

    I don't know if Le Gris truly raped Carrouges wife. But either way, he seemed to hold in very high steem his personal honor, to prefer death to surrendering. It's one of those things of ancient societies that I will never understand.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  3 роки тому +26

      It is true, but consider that honor and life were somewhat connected in that period

    • @benjackson91
      @benjackson91 3 роки тому +14

      As well with the fact he wouldn’t even confess when facing death
      Which would mean he would go to hell if he was lying as per the strict catholic beliefs in medieval France at the time

    • @romanbarna1316
      @romanbarna1316 3 роки тому +9

      Same can be said of Marguerite, who would've been burned at the stake if Le Gris had won.

    • @Connor-vj7vf
      @Connor-vj7vf 3 роки тому +5

      One view raised is that back then, there was very little individualism for houses. People often shared rooms, dining halls etc with their massive family thus their sense of identity formed around their name/house rather than their individual self.
      It's put very well in the book Sapiens

    • @CyborgNinja.
      @CyborgNinja. 3 роки тому +4

      The concept of a honorable death is still thriving in modern societies and not exclusive to medieval Europe.

  • @hotsprinkles
    @hotsprinkles 3 роки тому

    Another fascinating video! Great work guys

  • @metaconwar4601
    @metaconwar4601 3 роки тому +5

    I officially challenge Kings and Generals to a duel to the death!

  • @Mr813Fla
    @Mr813Fla 3 роки тому +1

    Seen "The Last Duel" it was GREAT!!!

  • @brianjones3191
    @brianjones3191 3 роки тому +4

    The judges should have found in the husband’s and wife’s favour when she accepted she would be burnt at the stake if her husband lost the duel!
    That was very brave of them.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 роки тому +1

    This was an excellent video. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

  • @dr.zoidberg197
    @dr.zoidberg197 3 роки тому +1

    The drawings are amazing!

  • @markolson4660
    @markolson4660 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting video! I suspect that duels existed and survived because the stability of society required that injuries which might result in vendetta -- which tended to really tear up society -- needed a definitive settlement more than an accurate settlement. Duels provided the closure.

    • @marloyorkrodriguez9975
      @marloyorkrodriguez9975 Рік тому

      I could see that reasoning, and judging from the fact you have the concept of yield or surrender, deaths on duels could have been rare and a more preferable settlement on both winners and losers could have been agreed or arranged.

  • @Somewhat-Evil
    @Somewhat-Evil 3 роки тому +2

    Dueling had one great virtue, only the nobles involved were put at risk. Vassals and commoners didn't get sucked into a blood drenched cycle of raid and counter raid.💀⚔

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 3 роки тому +1

      in that one engagement anyway, but I am sure dueling did not end most feuds, and often where the beginning of many where other people where dragged in afterwards.

  • @podemosurss8316
    @podemosurss8316 3 роки тому +5

    10:02 Also known as "the wise". By the way, Castille had already annexed Leon and taken most of Al-Andalus (except Granada). In fact he had his capital in Toledo.

  • @officialmattmedia
    @officialmattmedia 3 роки тому +1

    *trial by combat occurs
    Bronn: "say less"

  • @helljumper214
    @helljumper214 3 роки тому

    from 5:10 to 5:28 the sentence "the lex burgundiunum influenced nearly all the germanic law code, as so the judicial duel was codifid in the rest of the continet" repeats twice.

  • @willlasdf123
    @willlasdf123 3 роки тому +1

    Damn, so now I know that Kylo Ren never had a chance against Jason fucking Bourne in single combat!

  • @sercan6034
    @sercan6034 3 роки тому +4

    Dueling before war is also quite common in eastern culture. I suggest you study the Arab-Iranian wars.

  • @mvitor7412
    @mvitor7412 3 роки тому

    This channel is amazing, great quality, great content and great animation. 😁👍

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 роки тому +1

    Its sad to see things come to an end, so I'm going to be retro and bring it back

  • @Elfos64
    @Elfos64 3 роки тому +1

    Theoretically, we could still have trials by combat, but only under very narrow circumstances. If the wronged parties are justifiably confident in their fighting ability against each other and both agree, too little concrete evidence to determine guilt in either direction by other means, the nature of the offense is personal and not tangentially affecting several additional parties.

  • @gussiejives
    @gussiejives 3 роки тому

    Trial By Combat also featured in the second Cadfael book _One Corpse Too Many_ where in order to preserve a dead man's honour, nobleman Hugh Beringar challenges the killer to trial by combat rather than presenting the evidence. The TV dramatization is... a little cheesy, but has a great denouement where King Stephen himself says to the triumphant Beringar "Your opponent proved your case for you, all too well."

  • @sebastianbate7835
    @sebastianbate7835 3 роки тому +1

    Please, would you be so kind as to make a video about the spanish tercios? I would love to understand their way of combat. They were a crucial unit in history and you guys are the best at this

    • @G_Flash84625
      @G_Flash84625 3 роки тому +1

      Watch SandRhoman History on UA-cam

  • @PhilHug1
    @PhilHug1 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! Please to a video a honor duels someday!

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 3 роки тому +2

    Next one, how the duel using pistols replaced the duel with the swords.

  • @nuclearlefthook5008
    @nuclearlefthook5008 3 роки тому +1

    He most definitely didn't thrust his sword through thick armor. Likely used a dagger to thrust through the visor (Or after opening the visor) or into a gap in the neck. This was standard in knightly combat, as swords could never hope to penetrate the armor, only the slight gaps if timed and aimed well, which is all but impossible on a moving target protecting these gaps. It often ended in clinches, which resulted in grappling and either of the parties getting a favorable top position - to then use their dagger.

  • @7DaltonDoms7
    @7DaltonDoms7 3 роки тому

    Great depth as always

  • @tacocruiser4238
    @tacocruiser4238 3 роки тому +1

    Henry IV of England was one of the greatest duelers of the Middle Ages. He was also extremely chivalrous and merciful to a fault.

  • @Blalack77
    @Blalack77 3 роки тому +4

    That was a pretty cool story about the guy dueling over the rape of his wife. It sort of reminds of The Count of Monte Cristo for some reason - I guess just some of the elements in general... Seems like it would make a good movie lol.. I mean, with his wife having been raped and his own honor and life and the life of his wife on the line - I imagine that gave him a major boost of stamina/determination. I'm glad the good guy won and was vindicated and compensated and got a good position and lived a good life. I'm just assuming they were telling the truth - with it being life or death.

  • @andro7862
    @andro7862 3 роки тому

    We are just covering this in our classes. Perfect timing.

  • @jasemalhammadi4228
    @jasemalhammadi4228 3 роки тому

    Alexander Hamilton, First US treasury secretary died in a duel in 1804. Alexander Pushkin, Russian poet, died in a duel in 1837. So this practice continued all the way to the 19th century.

    • @eduardmacovei4732
      @eduardmacovei4732 3 роки тому +1

      These are not judicial trials, more like duels for honour and stuffs like this. At least I know for sure that Puskin did it for that particular reason (honour)

  • @mountainhobo
    @mountainhobo 3 роки тому +2

    Being burned at a stake for giving false testimony? We need this today.

  • @sandvichbros1659
    @sandvichbros1659 3 роки тому

    I just watched a video by Shadiversity about the same topic. And now I can know more about Trial by combat just hours later. The world is a strange place.

  • @snowman6408
    @snowman6408 3 роки тому +2

    Arabs also used to duel and persians before battle

  • @blakebailey22
    @blakebailey22 3 роки тому +2

    I can definitely see the flaws of trail by combat, it proves nothing legally or by any evidence and instead is settled solely on the marshal prowess of the participants. Was probably fun to watch though, and much fairer than the "confession under torture" approach by other countries.

  • @grahamturner1290
    @grahamturner1290 3 роки тому +2

    By the way, may I recommend Tyrkir vs. Ulf on the Northworthy Sagas and Stories channel here on UA-cam, available in vertical and horizontal formats. A minute's worth of Viking trial by combat, which I hope will entertain you!

  • @bcaiko
    @bcaiko 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the learning!

  • @dharma1666
    @dharma1666 3 роки тому

    Should add this to the Hundred Years’ War playlist since it takes place during it

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 3 роки тому

    Thank you , K&G .

  • @prachayamishra1950
    @prachayamishra1950 3 роки тому

    7:46 I don't know why but the speed lines made it look like a anime moment.

  • @saxoDK_1600
    @saxoDK_1600 3 роки тому

    i highly recommend also watching men in iron all three parts, they are all on youtube starting in 700 ad about knights ending in around the 1600s