I assumed they needed probable cause to get a warrant for the footage since I know theres stricter rules/protections for school seecurity cameras in some states
Oh stop! You gonna tell me this cute angular white boy is the guilty party and this slow-sounding Mexican is innocent! If Donald Trump has taught me ONE thing, it's who to KNOW is the culprit in crimes.
@@innileliluvsanDid you even watch the video? Kody was literally stalking her, kidnapped her, gaslit his questionable gf into believing that somehow this criminal behavior was M's indication of intimate interest in HIM (zip ties and all), then killed her specifically because she rejected him. Try to keep up, will you?
Kody’s dad telling him that Micaelas family needs answers and telling him to tell the truth despite that being his own son is so real. That’s a real parent.
I don’t know, I think I would’ve told my kid to flee the country. Helping with the police confession feels like a betrayal. Especially since it turns out Toni was the actual killer.
@@GeneralRection1997 So you'd let your son go to jail FOR LIFE? to the point where you help the police get a confession? All because a jealous girl (who has the chance of parole unlike him just for being female btw) seduced him into helping her murder? No fuck that I'm loyal to my family. Any chance I could smuggle him to Europe and get new papers I'd take it instantly.
@@AntLeonardi01 you make a decision like that on your own. If you are convinced to murder for that reason, you are messed up in the head and have a probability of murdering for a much bigger reason
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That mining worker that noticed a random set of tracks in the desert and decided to follow it deserves a medal. God knows how many of us wouldn't have given it a second thought and kept driving, and Micaela would probably never have been found.
@@ghosthunter0404I agree. I don't know if I'd follow them, but I would probably notice them because I'm always cautious about possibly interrupting someone who is up to no good . I would be worried that the someone would still be there and I wouldn't investigate unless I had another person with me.
THATS AWESOME DENY HER MUTLIPLE TIMES...I KNEW IT WASNT JAVIER FIRST OFF WE HISPANICS LOVE OUR BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMEN AND WOULD NEVER OUT THEM IN HARMS WAY FACTS...
It’s honestly refreshing to hear a parent hold their criminal child responsible, all too often you hear of parents enabling their murderer child and coddling them. I loved hearing his father say “and what about michaela’s decisions?”
@@joehogan3691 Can you blame him? It's ingrained into us as humans. It must of been heartbreaking for his father to go through and I respect him for not giving in and acceping what his son did.
Kody's reaction to that was so typical for that type of person. It enraged him to not have the pity focus on him that he turned aggressive, demanding and making threats to regain control of the narrative. I can only imagine how exhausted his father must've felt by that time. So sick of a son who thinks only of himself and his feelings. I couldn't handle having a kid like that. He'd be in therapy so fast long before it ever got to this point.
He's showing what a normal thought process is, something his son is devoid of. He has to protect the rest of the family, he's probably figured out at this point he never really knew his son, and to let justice take it's course.
Lets not go overboard. He should have told off his POS son and turned his back on him for what he did! He would have been dead to me upon seeing all the evidence against him and his confession.
Not in my right and wrong world. I could be deeply in love with a woman and upon finding she cheated on me, she would be dead to me from that point forward. The same would apply to an offspring committing such an evil act. @@jamestarrou3685
Javier is a great kid. Not only did he help police understand Micaela’s daily schedule and habits, but even her moods and thought processes. You could tell he really was concerned about her and wanted to help however he could.
@KeyDx7 .....they haven't said anything about Javier being involved. They're saying that even though we do not know him personally he seems like a good person.
@daniellebusam4839 no, you are bad at reading subtext. "He was real broke up" was sarcastic. The dude was poking jabs at Javier because he wasn't crying and mocking the dude complimenting Javier.
Right!? That fathers voice on that recording was the sound of pure and utter heartbreak and unimaginable pain. That was definitely hard to listen to, because the emotion was so raw and unfiltered.
I have a lot of respect for Kodys father. A lot of people don't empathize with the victims of their chikdrens crimes and only think of themselves. He did the right thing by helping Micaelas family get the truth from his son. You can love your child AND do the right thing as a fellow human being.
I came to the comments to say the same thing. As a true crime enthusiast, I don't think I've ever seen this. It's almost always the opposite of this, with parents claiming their child is innocent or even assisting them with the crime. His parents are truly amazing people worthy of much respect.
Listening to his Dad just ripped my heart out. It seems like he did his best but with some people something is just broken. No amount of talking, listening or attention is enough. Nothing is their fault and if its obvious that it is, all the attention deserves to be on them because of how THEY feel. If he hadn't fostered a relationship with his son, he wouldn't have confessed so quick.
my heart always breaks for the parents of the kids who do such heinous things when you can tell the parents don’t deny their child’s guilt, encourage their child’s confession & help the investigation when they can. i can’t imagine being in his situation. obviously my heart breaks even more for that poor girl and her loved ones but there’s also room to feel for the parents who do the right thing when their child is likely guilty or obviously guilty. it would be absolutely sickening to have such an evil child who could do something so disturbing and heinous then continues to feel bad for himself even during the confession. hope cody’s having a horrible time in prison
As soon as I heard Javier talking I knew he was innocent. He was giving up all the information he knew, even told the police officer that he thought she was unsafe, something murderers usually don't do. He sounded very honest and I felt so bad for him because you can tell he really cares about her
his rock solid alibi as well. If he was guilty he wouldn't disclose information what can easily be disproved. You know he is innocent the moment he tells his exact whereabouts.
Honestly, he seems like a very sweet kid. I hope everyone involved in this case is doing okay in their healing journey. I can't imagine the pain of loss they're still feeling to this day.
I’m glad you included his prison phone calls, as hard as they were to listen to. It paints the perfect picture of who Kody really is: a whiny, self-absorbed, manipulative demon.
God, he is the worst. I could hardly bear to listen to his whiny lying confession. We could all read between the lines and understand that he lured her out there and beat and stabbed her to death. Just tell the truth for once in your life, you might even get a couple of years off for cooperation Feel sorry for his dad too who sounds like a decent guy
Why in the world hadn't they checked school surveillance very first thing?! That was literally the last place she was seen alive 🤦♀️ Wouldn't the staff look? Just in case? To save their own butts legally? I don't get it.
Yup! It was all about how good a person he was and how evil his former girlfriend was. Almost like he was doing us all a favor by "offing" her. And I believe zero about how tormented he feels about dong this. @@CruzCruz-nw7fi
That poor kid cared for her so much, got off at 10 and looked until 2 am... What a guy, what a PERSON. Respect to him, his level of care for others should be recognized!
The fact that Kody and Toni really expect us to believe Micaela was so attached to Kody, after Javier said in the beginning she kept telling Kody to leave her alone, is just sick.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i see what you’re saying, but kids like him should be studying not working, sad that we live in a society where kids need to help make ends meat
@@SA-pi3zm With state of the public school system, coupled with the mess of indoctrination and debt that higher education is, children today receive better experience and practical education from a job as opposed to school. The real sad part is that this is the case more today than it has been in the entire modern era.
You can tell Javier really cares for her. So sad to go through such trauma at a young age. I hope he’s ok. And my deepest condolences to him and the victim’s family. So young. So tragic.
Of all these interviews I've watched yeah, he just seemed honestly like the most genuine up front person and you could really tell the situation was eating him up.
@@lillychawla9079 1 year is a long time u can tell from his concern and distress that he loved her a lot lets hope hes doing okay now days but i rlly dont know how u recover after something so brutal and tragic:(
@@lillychawla9079yeah 1 year sure but she was murdered and he clearly was concerned about her and wanted her to be found safe. I'm sure that probably hurt him a lot.
@@lillychawla9079 If my ex, whom I'd only dated for a few months, had gone missing and been murdered, doesn't matter how long or short the relationship was I'd be upset for quite a while.
You almost immediately can tell that Javier is being truthful and is a sensitive, kind young man. I can see why Micaela liked him. What a shame that some people in the world are so sick.
Yea she disrespected him a lot. You don’t go talking with your ex boyfriend & riding around with him. That was definitely not right, that young man deserved better.
Why was the call with the attorney recorded?? I’m baffled by that part, he was literally interrogating her like police. Is it a public defender or something bc if it is then i guess it’s true about them being on the same team as police. That’s crazy
@@MrGFloyd It was Kody's lawyer, not hers. Of course they are gonna use whatever info comes out of that to help their client. She, thankfully, was just too stupid to keep her mouth shut.
@@AmyJoyLandry I thought it was cute too. he talks so innocently, kinda like a little kid- inserting mundane, irrelevant details such as he and macaela held hands while walking down the hall as if them holding hands mattered to police 😂 This is in stark contrast to Cody who seems very calculated and everything he says is dishonest and with the purpose of misleading police.
I feel bad for little Javier, man. It's such a shame. I can't imagine having somebody you care about...literally your person....taken away from you in such a violating way.
@@dadoogieit was proven that they both were there when she was murdered. Why would she be begging this guy to get back together in front of his girlfriend? They obviously forced her in the car and murdered her. Ridiculous there is always that one creep defending these type of people 💀🤮
The amount of times we've seen obsessive men just jumping at the chance to claim that their victim wanted them is astounding. It's as if murder wasn't enough, and they have to take away their victim's dignity aswell.
@@UncleKlausSchwab Well.. good thing she never at any point said women can't be toxic or this was something only men did then, huh? Considering men makeup the overwhelming majority of all violent crime & sexual crime, it's okay for somebody to comment on the frequency of it, especially when something like victim blaming is being brought up because it's something that happens so often it's common knowledge, has it's own name created, & literally is a household term. If she had made a statement saying 'all men are like this" or "all men do this", then ofc, let's call that out, but being this sensitive, emotional, & critical because somebody is literally just emphasizing stats or common knowledge is ridiculous.
It's pretty amazing that the police keeps telling us "Call IMMEDIATELY if you think someone is missing, the first hours are the most important" and then when Micaela's mother calls, they don't start searching for her until the day after. Nice job guys, knew that I could count on you :D
It is the first 3 half hours that need a quick response . But of course the Police have no end of teenagers leaving home . or staying at a friends without saying . but its no excuse a beautiful young girl goes missing they should act as a just in case . however by time she was reported missing she would have been dead . I agree I do believe the girl hated her Micalia so much she persuaded Kody to kill her clearly it was planned with the plastic wrist bands and the shovel it may have been in the car , however you just dont FIND Plastic Cuffs like that , they wanted her dead , as it said . there may have been arguement ,s but they took her to the desert to kill the poor girl . What she must have suffered and the fear and horror for her must have been unimaginable . Safe in Gods arms . May God give her family help and love , and both parents of the two killers
@@justlooking777they didn’t look at the surveillance till they found her body. Sounds like they were still thinking she had run away. Unfortunately a lot of teens get classified as run aways.
@@justlooking777But they didn't have anything to look for until after a bunch of interviews. They would need a warrant to view the videos and you can't just list vague stuff on the warrant.
It's like the police isn't worried about actually protecting people and instead waits to recover the body. You are not investigators. You are the protectors of the citizen. Your job is to protect the citizen, not wait until they are found dead
The way Toni is just nonchalantly telling the lawyer what happened is bone chilling. She shows no emotion whatsoever. She sounds like a true psychopath. I’m glad she told on herself. I don’t even know how she got the possibility of parole after this senseless crime. May Mikayla R.I.P.
@katiejensen5547 where do you see that? I'm genuinely confused. What they read in her diaries didn't indicate hatred or planning at all it was angsty. Definitely not malicious. Idk I see no "pull". Kody is pretty transparently unhinged on his own but I just wanted to see what you were looking at.
Considering how over reported this was, how you can see/hear a 100 different videos and tv shows, and read the entire court room testimony, there's really no good reason Toni got a slap on the wrist in comparison. It's more like legal leap holes and "Hey, they both said he gave her a concussion first, so what if she took his knife and slit her throat. The diary stuff is circumstantial! "
You can tell how politely Javier was trying to stress during his interview that this was not normal behavior. He knew they would look at her past runaway and assume that was all this was, and he was trying so hard to make it clear that if this was in fact the case, she would have told someone. Poor kid
Wow, Kody's dad seems really decent. He wanted his son to take responsibility and do what's right. He didn't say "stop talking now, I'm getting a lawyer, we're not cooperating etc." He had complete empathy for what Micaela's family were going through and how they deserved the truth. I don't know why Kody is so messed up but his dad is a decent guy.
Apparently Cody's father is the one who drove Toni to his son's lawyer's office to record that confession. He really did the best he could to get justice for Micaela's family.
I sometimes wonder how horrible people can come from environment this kind His father sounds like a true gentleman and a kind soul and it doesn't seems like Kody went through rough times in his life he was just this horrible of a person, a demon at best plain and simple
@@cainesy7913 he was already at work so i imagine as soon as he realized she hadn't gotten in contact with any friends after work when he could be on his phone he went looking
@@cainesy7913remember that they had no way of knowing she was missing in a serious way until some time passed--I imagine very few employers would take well to someone who ran off every time they didn't get a text from their girlfriend for a few hours, because most of the time, the person is just fine. It's hindsight that tells us otherwise.
@@kaitlynbrown1850exactly…. Ppl say the craziest things on here I swear🙄.. these are kids.. and as you mentioned, she had ran away before. He probably didn’t think it was that serious
This case was insane. I didnt think it could get worse! THE WAY TONI WAS NONCHALANTLY EXPLAINING WHAT THEY DID AND DESCRIBING HOW SHE WAS INVOLVED IS SO CHILLING. these videos are so well done, I love this channel
Yes, she was so clinical and sounded like she was placing a pizza order. Now I missed the part about why they were allowed to listen to a lawyer speaking with his client? I jumped ahead, did they explain?
They didn’t ever mention why. My guess is because he was not her attorney. She was contacting him to see if she could be represented by him. He told her that it depended on what she told him.
Oh man! I was half way through the video when I read your comment. I didn't think Toni had a part in it. lol. Lesson for me: read comments at the end of video. 😂
His phone call to his dad was a clear indication of his narcissism. He was only crying about himself. How he was having nightmares. Even his dad tried to remind him about Mickeala and he just got pissed about it.
The father’s voice in their first conversation, at the station... Man, he is in an awful spot: loves his son, knows he’s broken, having to set the boundary that says “no escape from your horrifying crime”, possibly even somewhat scared of him, and just begging him to do the right thing. That’s heartbreaking. That’s real character, too. Huge respect to the dad for pushing him to face the consequences.
Yea real character and a wonderful man. He raised a good kid. I applaud Kody dad for all the accountability he gave Kody growing up. What a dad and great man
Before judging that man too hard maybe you should think a bit about the society you all live in. You love the roll of alpha, masculine men and feminine, petite women, like Barbie and Ken. The males are supposed to be tough, aggressive and go-getters, to take what they want and support their wives and children. Women are supposed to give their men and children what they need, support them, adore them and take care of every single need they have, clean the house, nurture the children and pamper their hard working husbands. So, caring, nurturing men are looked upon as gay or weak and tough females are looked upon as dominant or lesbians. This is the reality your children grows up in and what do you think happens when teenage boys don't get what they want? They take it or throw a fit. Kody was violent and unbalanced. He was also violent and involved with a toxic girl who's whole existence was to be a girlfriend of Kody, an accesoir. Not a self reliant and secure young woman. This is probably more what made Kody go along with the heinous crime than anything else. Kody's dad spent all his day at work, seeing his son maybe in the evening and weekends. How much of all this do you actually think he knew about? You are the only country I know about that have all this "teenage drama" where young people think you can swipe the problems away by killing a friend. It doesn't happen anywhere else! Maybe it is time for you all to vote progressive, start paying taxes used to create a society where both parents work a normal 6-8 hour day, with paid and mandatory vacation and stuff the rest of us already have. Then maybe you will have parents available to the kids while they grow up so that you can constantly give them love and affection along with discipline and care. @@eh5872
@@eh5872 I know modern youth in their quest to blame everyone else on earth and avoid all accountability put everything on the parents, but you can be a good parent and raise an idiot. I am such an example, and I know many others. Unfortunately, your peers matter and you are forced to spend more time with them, no matter how devoted the parent.
@@eh5872 It’s very likely that Kody has some neurological dysfunction that makes him an aggressive sociopath, and that problem can’t be fixed by a parent’s advice or discipline. If you ever have the misfortune to encounter a person like this, and try to “fix” them, you will experience the truth of the futility of that effort. Blaming the father for his son’s behavior is not valid. There’s no suggestion that the father abused him, or otherwise pushed him into this criminality or hostility. Consider this: Are your parents responsible for all of your behavior? Are you nothing more than an extension of your parents? Do you have your own mind, making your own decisions, acting as an independent person? Do you blame your parents for all of your own mistakes, or worse, blame them for your crimes? Other parents in this situation have attempted to hide their children’s crimes, and protect sociopaths from the law, while subjecting society to future murders. Kody’s father did the opposite, to hold Kody accountable, and to keep him from killing anyone else. So yes, he deserves credit, for seeing the situation for the catastrophe is was, and urging Kody to make the morally correct decision.
This was edited so damn well, you guys really are the leaders in true crime coverage. No excess interrogation clips, lots of detail, laid out and explained clearly for us to understand. Thank you for your hard work, it’s really appreciated!
Main reason why Imma run out of crime content to watch, cause I this is the only channel so far that keeps it concise even when the runtime is long lol
@@sk8queen I love the narrator's voice and have to admit that sometimes it sends me off to sleep, then I have to go back and try and find out where I nodded off!
Kodys dad seems like a seriously stand up man. His plea to his own son to do what's right for the victim while also not trying to sidestep anything, even saying what he's done is heinous. We see many parents try to do the exact opposite. You can tell how much it's killing him as a dad though
Really makes you wonder if he was always like this or it just took a crisis like this to sober him up. I really, really wonder about how good of parents these people really were. I'm sure there are some outliers - like parents that were great and their kid was fucked up by circumstances beyond their control - but its got to be in the vast, vast minority.
I actually think Kody wouldn't have been involved in killing Micaela if not for Toni's presence. If he was alone with Micaela, she would still be alive.
@@keithselden2096 I mean having a fastener and a knife on hand is actually pretty universally helpful. Now lighter fluid and shovels are a bit more suspicious unless you go outdooring alot.
@@saysay8920 I can understand the lighter fluid and shovel in case of survival situations (I have a shovel in my trunk at all times just in case) but based on their stupidity it seems like it was solely just for misuse as I doubt they'd put those in a borrowed car without bad intentions...
The guy gave off this, "Bruh, I went to work and then suddenly everything was fucked" energy. You know immediately with his tight af clock in time this kid's alibi was tight af, he was at work. Based on the time frame and age, he probably is working a restaurant or retail job, the kind of shit people would notice if you went off somewhere for a couple hours. It was obvious he was at work.
He really cared. I hope he got some counseling to help work through such a traumatic event. Losing someone you care about is really hard, especially when it's in such a horrific way
@@Timrock2355for real. no shade to her at all but he showed a lot of maturity and love for her by looking at the big picture and knowing that it wasn't the most important aspect of the situation. I really hope he's thriving and living a great life
God right. Especially relationship wise. They always start off looking like the perfect loving couples. But you just never know. Someone who may look like your soulmate at first could turn out to be your murderer. It’s scary because there’s no way to tell.
Hola Yo igual no confío en absolutamente nadie nadie. Es triste llegar a ese punto. Pero la sociedad. Nos está mostrando cada día. Lo terrible que escuchamos y vemos cada día 😢😢😢😢😢. Es un horror da pánico
I live in salt lake, Wendover is a very dry, alien, lonely and dusty place, the casinos on the border lend a desperate atmosphere..to end up in a shallow grave there, just incomprehensible..
I actually thought that her body was dumped somewhere outside of town and Javier was worried they would find her body that way. I was initially thinking he was the killer
@@natasha675Wow what an inappropriate non-sequitur... it's quite well documented that women get lighter sentences. Women are far less likely to get convicted, and if they are convicted they are far more likely than men to get a lighter sentence. Your point seems ridiculous here, and reactionary.
Toni should never get out of prison. She’s already proven she’s capable of cold-blooded murder and if given the chance, she would do it again. She’s beyond creepy.
@@MortgageGirl7 I so thought that too, a very bad horror movie, she so reminded me of the crazy woman out of the 1999's movie 'Misery' Also I couldn't help thinking when she said 'Mum comes out today'... I'm thinking 'Out of where?
Yes i feel like she was the demon within the situation that controlled everyone and she was jealous of micaela. Dumb ass cody got played like a fiddle. God bless that poor girls soul and her family.
no it’s not, one has a penis and one has a vagina. that’s how it’s always been that’s how it will always be, get used to it. sexism at its finest always with the cops
Javier is a great kid. You can just tell. Hes worried about his friend / girlfriend, hes very honest, he asks the right questions, he goes to work, gets good grades, and takes his girl to the taco truck for lunch, etc. His parents should be very proud of him! Im so sorry for his loss.
When they asked him if he had any questions, his mind immediately went to finding his friend and how the police were going about it. Parents def raised a good one.
I don’t know why but Javier’s segment hurt the most. He really drives home that they’re still so young. He’s so worried and heartbroken and you know the news absolutely crushed him. Poor baby
I was thinking the same!!! He seems like such a sweet soul 😢 my heart truly hurts for her family and him. I hope he never changes and this tragedy just makes him stronger
Massive props to Kody's dad for actually confronting his son and enforcing how immoral his behavior was and encouraging him to talk and tell the truth. When the narrator said they left his father alone in the room with him, I rolled my eyes, figuring his father was gonna tell him to shut up and that there was an attorney on their way right now. I feel awful for Kody's father, because you can tell he's absolutely torn up about this and he sounds like a good dad. RIP Micaela, you are missed.
@chaddad1488 he sees the pain the other parents are going through and xan understand what it would be like to actually lose him forever instead of for a "sort time"
@@chaddad1488if your child kills your whole family, I'll make sure to recommend he stays quiet and gets a lawyer. But if he kills my family, daddy getting him a lawyer and trying to protect him from the consequences of his actions will be the least of his concerns. You feel welcome to raise little psycopaths if you want. The rest of us will continue to make our children take their medicine. 😉
@@protectyourself33 We're not talking about if they took out my family, way to change the context though. You wouldn't get the fatherly bond, this dad is a traitor imo. You can't see the difference between taking out your own family, and some classmate? I'll let you think for awhile and imagine why it's different...Bad analogy by you.
Toni's demeanor during her confession was more disturbing to me than Kody's. I have no idea how much of Kody's emotion was real or feigned, but even if it was feigned, at least he felt the need to feign emotion. Toni is the type who would be a camp guard at Auschwitz. It creeped me out how cheerfully she explained her murderous actions by saying, "I wasn't thinking."
Someone didn't learn a thing from WW2. My guy everyone had a capacity for evil, that's what makes it so insidious. The more virtuous you think you are the more likely you would be the first to break and do something terrible if pushed.
@@hisaonakai9489I know that therapists sometime record patients and those records have to be confidential. I’m assuming that had it been a normal consolation, the recording would have stayed private and there would be nothing illegal about having that recording. Lawyer-client confidentiality does not apply to criminal confessions. Lawyers have to report those kinds of things or they can lose their license. It’s similar to how doctors can bypass HIPPA and contact law enforcement if they think someone is in danger. Or how therapist will report clients who express interest in harming themselves or others. Privacy is important but they still mandated reporters.
@@hisaonakai9489 what?? If someone called an attorney and said they murdered and wanted counsel, how the hell would that be illegal/immoral to turn it over to the police? Just because someone is an attorney doesn't mean talking to them is completely confidential.
And not self absorbed. I found it really impressive that he knew her well enough to know she didn’t hide her feelings. Not every teenage boy would pick up on that.
@@kellidinit3725 i wonder why javier did not help micaela and step to kody to tell him to back off because he was bothering and making his girlfriend uncomfortable?
The way Kodys father broke... I felt that. He was hurting for that girl. His heart was shattered by his son. My heart goes out to him, his family and Micaelas family. No one should have to go through this. I hope Kody and Toni rot in jail and are miserable everyday they are imprisoned.
Yeah, just terrible. You can relate to the family with how sad you would be at losing your child, but then realizing his son caused all that pain... Sometimes you can do all the right things raising a kid and have them still turn into this PoS.
@@tcsprynce5748 forsure bro most definitely Ik what a off relationship is like with your pops and the fact that he's going off him not being there but now it took a crazy situation for him to actually be there ya shits sad forsure
@@jeromedavis8575 He's never getting out, which is definitely necessary. After hearing how he spoke to his dad, any family of his would be in danger if he was ever free.
Yea more than likely she manipulated kody by saying if he loves her they have to kill micaela or shed leave him. Jealous and insecure and being manipulative it is most likely the real scenario. And it probably was brought up those months before her murder when javier claimed kody tried getting in touch w her... Sad that jealousy can do that. They hadnt been together in years and both kody and micaela had moved on to "better" relationships... Mainly better in micaelas case...
One thing ive noticed in multiple interviews is a guilty suspect who was the last to see the victim, will claim that the last time they saw the victim was in passing with another person and give a very ambiguous description of the person
Honestly even your average Joe would seem suspicious just because of how stressful that situation would be for most people especially being suspected as murder
Bruce Rivers has reacted to one of these videos before. There's a reason psyconomy isn't admissible in court, and it's that it's all bullshit. If the dude protested his innocence this channel would be like, "see? He protests to much so he's guilty." Hindsight is 20/20
He is a piece of shit💩 with the iq of a goldfish - I just feel so sorry for his family and Michaela's family this is tragic... The way he described what happened - what he did, just broke my f'king heart. Like, I'm a seasoned youtuber and have watched some crazy f'king shit, but this one hit different. I feel sick. RIP Michaela I've had enough youtube for today... goodnight my friends
Micaela sure is pretty. Toni is hideous. Kody is obviously unintelligent and has anger issues. Javier is an angel. There are no winners in this sad story. Glad to hear she was denied parole again in 2024.
God bless Javier, he really was scared and worried. When he asked the cop if they had planes looking for her, it was so sincere but at the same time clearly established how young he is. You could see the worry and fear for his girlfriends safety all over his face.
Yes it broke my heart, his innocence was ruined by this, I’m sure afterwards he learned that they use drones or helicopters for search but at that moment he hadn’t known about the cruel realities of life. 😢
I haven’t seen any comments specifically noting how chilling it is that Toni, in confessing her part in the murder, self described as not being mad, just kind of frustrated at Micaela. This is someone who so genuinely thinks mild frustration is worth killing over that she can so casually and flippantly talk about it as though she were ordering pizza or chatting at lunch.
It’s because these days everyone is desensitized and it has greatly skewed their moral judgement. They watch violence in the news and in entertainment daily. It has become acceptable to use vulgar language in normal conversation. Sex and porn are pushed on our children through the media, internet and now at least in some areas through the public school system. This slow drip of filth in our daily lives has allowed most young people to look at violent situations as just another thing that gets posted to the internet.
She honestly comes across (and speaks as though) she has some mental disabilities, possibly a brain injury or something. No idea. But it is absolutely terrifying, you're right.
@@EerieEidolon Such BS. Next you'll be saying playing violent video games makes you want to do violence yourself... Or listening to rock music makes you want to kill people. lol Gimme a break...
It’s really awesome to see the comments about Javier. I completely agree. I hope he is well, and has found peace. My heart breaks for everyone involved.
Toni should have absolutely got life without parole. The chilling calmness of her retelling the timeline of the murder, admitting that they kicked and punched her as she was trying to get up, the fact that she could tell micaela was incoherent as they beat her, she did everything that Kody did. Her sentence is appalling. For me, Toni was the mastermind/jealous girlfriend who convinced her violent boyfriend that they needed to get rid of her. Kody was so in love with Toni that even when confessing to the crime kept Toni out of it.
I totally agree, she probably would have gotten it if it wasn't for the plea deal that she earned herself. hopefully they deny her parole again and she actually gets to serve a life sentence
Toni’s cool and collected confession sounded like she was reading off a grocery list rather than committing a brutally violent murder. She’s dead behind the eyes - no way should that sociopath ever be released. 😳
Half way through when Toni first comes on. I came to the comments and you confirmed for me early, her vibe is grotesque. The facial expressions, everything. I bet she thinks she’s doing a good job of concealing herself there. But no, a heart of black right there. I got to “helping him move the heavy metals” why didn’t he ask you then?! 🤮
@neyyattinkaragopan3042 I really don't believe that man. Kody changed his story so much and tried to guilt trip his dad, dude is a liar who wants to make himself look good. I'm almost positive there's more to situation, especially with Toni. It's really just the killers word against literally everyone else's opinion of how Mickey felt about Kody... not a good look
@neyyattinkaragopan3042 I think you missed about half of the video bud. Like everyone around them saying she didn't want to talk to Kody and felt uncomfortable about him contacting her.
I am SHOCKED that it took the police several days to even request the school surveillance footage! They’d have had their suspect detained and found her sooner!
Yeah… Had it not been for that guy finding those tracks out in the desert… I think the case would’ve gone cold… They had already “scratched” Kody off the “suspect list” after just ONE interview! 👀 Wait!… What?! I didn’t really get a competent feeling from the Investigators…
@@lencicollier6492it's sad that most missing teens are immediately ruled as rebellious and ran away. But it also depends how white and blonde and rich the parents are. It's actually sad to look up the amount of missing native woman and the very little solved or even started cases.
I pray Toni never is let out of prison. The idea she was given such a short sentence with parole that soon is outrageous. I think the lies are still deep in this story. So many unanswered questions.
Don’t be so hard on him😆 Clearly his family doesn’t appreciate him. They don’t even bother asking him about *his* feelings. 😖😫 Clearly he has to bear the weight of this tragedy every single day and doesn’t wanna be in jail 😫🤧🤧🤧🤧🙀
That’s what I was thinking but maybe it’s due to some sort of privacy thing because it’s footage from school? It could require a higher burden for police to get this footage. Just a guess though
That father speaking to his son is a broken man. You can feel the emotion in his voice. You can tell he is a good man, a man that will do the right thing even though it must be the hardest thing he has ever done. Very heartfelt.
@@emeryltekutsu4357he’s such a good man that he raised a terrible kid. Where was he when kody was acting like this his entire life? Father is saving himself. You don’t know this man and are saying what a great man he is. He is a terrible father that allowed his kid to be a bully and harm others and still babys him. Great man my ass
@@eh5872Sometimes people are just messed up pieces of shit no matter HOW good of parents they had. 🤷 Shit's much more complicated than your ignorant ass seems to think. Blaming kids for all of the faults of their children point blank without consideration is ALLLLLL kinds of ridiculously fucked up. Sometimes it's (at least partially) the parents fault, but sometimes it's not.
@@P1xelJunK I did pay attention. And I feel sorry for you. I have my degree in criminal justice and sociology. Worked 15 years with the State of Michigan as a CPS investigator. It’s usually the parents fault. Just because the dad is saving face doesn’t mean he’s a great man. You have no idea the man he is. And neither do I. But I’m basing this on experience. You want to come help go to college and come sign up for some public service.
I don’t believe for one second that poor girl wanted to talk about getting back together, it’s weird how an alleged conversation concerning turning someone down turns into them being murdered. It makes no sense that they created this weird narrative surrounding their motive for killing her. Why did Kody initiate contact repeatedly to someone he doesn’t want to be with ? Why wait around (stalking ) her just to tell her you don’t feel the same? I’m lost to their entire rationale behind their actions.
I bet what happened was that Kody was trying to cheat on Toni with Micaela and it didn't go as he had planned, so he convinced Toni that Micaela was trying to get him back. Toni seems a bit simple and easy to manipulate.
It's disgusting how even after admitting to the murder they still lie to paint her in a bad light as trying to break up their relationship, as if she wanted anything to do with those maniacs. What I don't understand is how they managed to manipulate her into getting in the truck in the first place.
@@ChuckPalomoand why was she already sitting in the backseat while they picked up his girlfriend? Like, if she truly wanted to get back with him, I highly doubt she would have been ok with picking up his girlfriend to “talk things out”… There wouldn’t have been anything the 2 girls would have to talk about regarding Kody. To me, he definitely made her think they were all just going to hang out, which is why she was already in the backseat, and explains why she even agreed to be in the car with both of them to begin with.
I really believe that Toni planned this whole things from the start and she was so incredibly insecure about her relationship with kody / had an idea that he wanted to be with her that she wanted him to prove in some sick twisted way that he only wanted her and not Michaela….and I think that Michaela was led under some false narrative that she was gonna hang out with the both of them
That makes NO sense. I want to get back with my old boyfriend so I want him and his new girlfriend to drive out to gravel pits to talk about it. Like..............what?
Sooooo right. Makes zero sense. And that the two of them wanted to "talk" with her. Makes no sense. She wasn't looking to get back with him! It was premeditated murder and most probably instigated by Toni
It's so frustrating that the lie they chose and stuck to was that she, who was terrified of him, wanted to get back together with him out of nowhere despite years of stalking, past abuse, and her current relationship. One last attempt to disrespect her.
Javier seems like a great young man. Asked if they were looking for her with planes and search parties, making sure they were doing everything possible. Kody's dad was amazing. He showed compassion for Kody and Michaela. I recalled that his parents had known Mickey since she was 4. You could hear the absolute heartbreak in his voice. He knows his son is guilty and encourages him to do the right thing.
My heart broke seeing he's obviously worried and afraid for her. And he was eagerly willing to assist in any way he can, volunteering any and all information that could be helpful no matter how big or small. Poor kid💔
I cant believe Toni got the lesser sentence. Not only does it seem very obvious that SHE was the one who wanted Michaela dead, she seems WAY more cold about the whole thing. When Kody recounted what happened he cried and sniffled and gagged his way through the story. When Toni recounted what happened.. she sounded chipper and emotionless and nonchalant as if she were telling a fictional story. Tbh even a fictional story usually gets more emotion out of a person. Like she does not care at all. She should have gotten life without parole, as well.
I'm sure that Cody did simply do what his girlfriend wanted him to do. Toni was stupid to speak with the lawyer when she could have kept quiet and gotten away.
She literally has the eyes of a devil. I didn't need to hear her voice, but that also showed how wicked and demonic she was. She is a true evil, and I can't understand how she gets to be free in a few years.
Kodi’s dad’s plea to his son broke my heart. Too often you see the parents enable and even encourage vile behavior. He knows what his son has done is wrong and it breaks his heart. He seems like a good - albeit - broken man. Just so sad all around 😢
The way he manipulates his Dad on the phone, is disgusting…and his poor Dad actually apologised, to HIM! All his tears, were purely for himself….not even one single tear drop, seemed to be for Micaela, her family, or even his own parents.
Why was the call with the attorney recorded?? I’m baffled by that part, he was literally interrogating her like police. Is it a public defender or something bc if it is then i guess it’s true about them being on the same team as police. That’s crazy
@@MrGFloyd Dude, they can't keep something told to them a secret. Of course they are with the justice system. If they were caught trying to hide the fact someone admitted to murder they would lose their jobs and get in trouble too.
This guy took a young girls life and all he can talk about is his problems and what has happened in his life, how he feels. Him, him, him. He is crying for himself but didn’t shed a tear for her.
Did anybody notice the rock shaped like a broken 💔 at time stamp 34:15 just left of and slightly below center? It just caught my eye. I will never understand how people can murder. 😢
I feel like this analysis missed an opportunity to look more into the sick mind of Toni! A true psycopath. The hairs on my arms went up at her nonchalant description of a savage murder.
I bet it had nothing to do with decency. It must be the smart thing to do in her situation. Also, its sick that she will be a free woman in a few years. A person who tortures and cuts a girls throat ever slowly will walk free. Incredible.
The fact that Tony got the chance to plead guilty to second degree instead of being sentenced to first degree murder without possibility of parole is disgusting. She was just as involved in the crime if not more than kody and she deserved the max punishment as well.
If Toni ever gets out on parole it'll be awful. She so casually explained the murder and didn't seem to care she took someones life. Even confessing that they had a chance to save her but didn't. Jesus christ.
I love how her sentence was life with no possibility of parole for 18 years but she's already having parole hearings at 10 years. It's a joke how we treat murderers with kid gloves while drug dealers get 100 year + sentences. Murder should be LIFE no possibility of parole EVER. If you took somebody's life, your life should be over, forever. No second chances just as there weren't any for the victim.
@@mat5473 It depends on whether it was in self defence or not but I mostly agree with you. Especially if you show no remorse or if you had a plan for it before hand.
Also I don't think people realize that Toni must have been feeling powerful and excited over the fact she convinced the guy who she loves to murder her biggest rival against that love (Mickie) with his own hands. Like Kodi basically chose between the two girls, and their (Kodi and Toni) celebration was murdering her (Mickie) together. @@BOBBY-n7m
I could tell immediately that Javier was genuinely concerned and in no way involved in this tragedy! The world needs more kids like Javier! So sorry for your loss...
Let me just say, in no universe did they drive Micaela out to the gravel pit to "talk". They drove there with the intention of murdering her, or at minimum, causing serious bodily injury to her. In my personal opinion, I think Toni was the mastermind. I think Toni and Kody got into some sort of fight and Toni said she wouldn't marry him because he still loved Micaela. He then probably said something along the lines of "I don't even like her anymore! What do I need to do to prove to you I don't have feelings for her" to which Toni would have planted the idea of murdering her so that she could never come between them. Just my opinion. I just feel like Toni comes off colder than Kody, and I think Kody initially leaving Toni out of the story is very telling.
What's insane is she confessed all that with a straight face and smiles.. and is aloud to parole. Shes a psychopath. I hope she gets denied parole for life!! Blessings to Ms. Micaela's family..
Just because she is eligible for parole, doesn't mean she will get out of prison. So far she has been denied parole twice. She isn't up again until 2029
Hearing the pain in his fathers voice is harrowing, but I have the utmost respect for him for making sure that her family got their answers and justice, at the expense of his own happiness etc.
Like you said, as sad as it is , the parents who stay honest are some real freaking MVPs … it take some reeealll heart and soul to be able to be honest with yourself let alone someone else LET ALONE someone in law enforcement knowing where it’s going to go… as a parent , I cannot imagine having to live with that ..
That girl should have to spend AT LEAST the 18 years sentenced to her before being eligible for parole. It's ridiculous that they would even allow her a parole hearing before then!
She should've got an equal sentence to Kodi's, at least. She was the premeditator -- should've got the longer sentence if anything. (But, of course, she's a girl -- easier to blame the boy.)
@@772amanda237 I agree! She was testing Kody to prove his love for her because Toni's so insecure she wanted Micaela out of the picture....Permanently. Toni is both evil and insecure which is a terrible combo!
i honestly think Toni should've gotten the same sentence as Kody. She was way more detached too. she literally could talk about the crime without any anxiety or stress or anything to her lawyer on the phone call, she was speaking as if it was a normal everyday conversation about what to have later for lunch wtf
Man I really feel bad for that dad, he knew cody was the one who did it and he even seemed fearful about being in the room with cody, having to accept the fact that he raised a killer. it's so heartbreaking. The family aren't bad people, they just had a bad apple.
We dont know that. For him to have those violent tendencies etc. There is no way that his ex best friends family didnt talk to his parents about him. Same as how the school likely informed his parents about his abuse towards Toni and how the school kept them separated as best they could. I have a feeling there's a lot happening behind closed doors. Some people are great at putting on a facade. It's also possible he was just a bad apple, but I doubt it. People with stable and loving home lives generally dont kill others
@@LemursManLemurs1nah the way the father burst into tears talking to kody it’s clear that he’s a good man and a good father, he may have known his son had anger issues but no parent would think “my son will be a killer”. it’s not that hard to believe anymore that some kids can have the best parents/upbringing and still turn out evil no matter what you do, it’s scary.
We don't know that. What Kody said about they nor asking him how he feels, ever, reveals important information about how they raised him. As he said, I think they all have a part in this.
@@harley4886 I mean. No shit he cried. Even a pretty shitty parent would cry if they found out their son killed someone. All I'm saying is. Y'all are saying hes a good dad from one phone call. Children often mimic what goes on at home. Again. Possible he was truly just a bad apple. But more than likely he saw violence at home. My dad beat the shit out of me until I could hold my own and posed a real threat to him. And he was very good at putting on a facade around other people. He was one of the most well liked people in my neighborhood. And same as how someone can have a great home life and turn out like shit. Someone can have a shit homelife and turn out to be great. I learned how not to be from my parents. And thankfully had good examples from my grandparents. My point is. You're making an assumption off of a singular phone call. No other details about his parents or home life were revealed.
@ssssssssszzzz I'd say theres a pretty good possibility that this dad is exactly what he seems. In toxic or traumatic households it can be very hard for an abusive father especially to hold their temper in high stress situations. They don't typically think about if they're being watched and sometimes don't care. Cody showed no signs of fear of his father either of him just being there or of his reaction to telling him what he'd done. The dad broke down in tears right along with his son and encouraged his son to fess up and give the family and police all the answers they needed and basically be a man do the right thing. Also made sure to say he wasn't going to abandon him and he loved him. These are not typical of the parents that we usually hear about breeding monsters and murderers. Jmo
Javier seems like a sweet kid - he was so quick to answer and gave as much as he could. He didn’t even try to hide anything - he spoke so quick and answered everything they asked. I hope he’s okay. He seems so sweet.
The fact he kept trying to mention her bf was a “Mexican kid” like that automatically makes the bf suspicious lmao dude was trying to profile him as a suspect to the cops
Listening to the recorded call with his father was a really hard listen.. when he said “I have hurt feelings” all I could think was “YOU have hurt feelings? Fck your feelings!” Thank you guys for doing Micaela’s heartbreaking story justice..My condolences to the family.
I sincerely hope the parole board isn’t stupid enough to ever let Toni out. Anyone who hears the details of this case understands that she played as big of a roll in Micaela’s death as Kody. In fact, she may have instigated the entire murder out of jealousy. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kody’s animosity towards Micaela that her friends described was caused by Toni’s insecurity and jealousy.
I agree. And doesn't their betrayal of each other, completely expose the true character of these scoundrels. They talk about "love". They don't know anything about the word!
Intresting he is wearing a Marine Corps poolie workout shirt. So he had plans on going into the military probably. It is a good thing he didn't. It is really easy for someone messed up to blend in as someone normal in the military. Messed up stories about someone that a person knows are pretty common when people drink together in the service.
I cant stop watching this channel. Idk if it’s one guy or a whole team but they do an awesome job. The editing, the narration, the investigative work they do themselves. It’s really good. I’ve tried to watch other channels with the same format and I just can’t get through em.
Same, there’s something special about this channel. I usually don’t like listening to true crime but this account does such a great job explaining the whole process it’s very interesting
@@freedustin TV would insist on emotive music to manipulate the audience. Insulting the intelligence of the viewer by telling them what to think + feel.
okay dude im like 6 mins into this thing i can already tell javier is probably one of those kindest people u just randomly meet i hope i dont eat my words here but i almost feel bad for how nice he seems, i hope he does well in life
It is absolutely insane to me that checking the school surveillance footage was basically the LAST thing the cops did.
yeah when they said that after 2 days they got footage to see if they missed anything I was shocked they had not done that yet.
Same
@@dreampsi2.
I assumed they needed probable cause to get a warrant for the footage since I know theres stricter rules/protections for school seecurity cameras in some states
She was 16 dude wtf @@markstone1619
he got off work and looked for her until 2am, I hope he finds peace in his life
right :(. he loved her. 😮.!. n possibility. she wanted to get back together with kody.
Oh stop!
You gonna tell me this cute angular white boy is the guilty party and this slow-sounding Mexican is innocent!
If Donald Trump has taught me ONE thing, it's who to KNOW is the culprit in crimes.
Vgs
@@innileliluvsanDid you even watch the video? Kody was literally stalking her, kidnapped her, gaslit his questionable gf into believing that somehow this criminal behavior was M's indication of intimate interest in HIM (zip ties and all), then killed her specifically because she rejected him. Try to keep up, will you?
@@innileliluvsan lmfao did you even watch the video
It’s kind of crazy how you can instantly tell when someone’s being completely honest. Javier seems like a good kid.
NO "AND THEN"
@@TimApple. LMAO right 😂😂😂
Yeah it's pretty obvious that Javier is a good kid, and it was easy to tell right away that he didn't have anything to do with it.
I feel so sad for Javier. He knew Mickey so well that he knew something was wrong. Poor guy.
Having a rock solid alibi helps too
Kody’s dad telling him that Micaelas family needs answers and telling him to tell the truth despite that being his own son is so real. That’s a real parent.
I don’t know, I think I would’ve told my kid to flee the country. Helping with the police confession feels like a betrayal. Especially since it turns out Toni was the actual killer.
@@AntLeonardi01 This is about murder man lmao. If your family murders someone or helps with the burial, please don't help cover it up.
@@AntLeonardi01 you let them get away with it once, they will try again.
@@GeneralRection1997 So you'd let your son go to jail FOR LIFE? to the point where you help the police get a confession? All because a jealous girl (who has the chance of parole unlike him just for being female btw) seduced him into helping her murder? No fuck that I'm loyal to my family. Any chance I could smuggle him to Europe and get new papers I'd take it instantly.
@@AntLeonardi01 you make a decision like that on your own. If you are convinced to murder for that reason, you are messed up in the head and have a probability of murdering for a much bigger reason
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I wish Javier nothing but the absolute best in life. He seems like a very genuinely nice kid.
gaaaaaay
he should get with kody’s fiancé lmfaoo
I was thinking the exact same thing when watching his interview. Seems like a fine young man.
@@bosoxer4evahe is a great person 😊
@@OwO---Drunk_Seulgi---OwOYou think everyone's of your kind.
That mining worker that noticed a random set of tracks in the desert and decided to follow it deserves a medal. God knows how many of us wouldn't have given it a second thought and kept driving, and Micaela would probably never have been found.
Totally and those tracks would be gone after a little while
Then again if it was private land makes sense someone would check to see who is on the land that shouldn't be
Absolutely.
@@ghosthunter0404I agree. I don't know if I'd follow them, but I would probably notice them because I'm always cautious about possibly interrupting someone who is up to no good . I would be worried that the someone would still be there and I wouldn't investigate unless I had another person with me.
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Did some research and Toni was denied parole again in 2024- thank god.
Thank you, i was trying to look this up last night but couldn’t find anything except her being denied in 2021
The comment I was looking for
THATS AWESOME DENY HER MUTLIPLE TIMES...I KNEW IT WASNT JAVIER FIRST OFF WE HISPANICS LOVE OUR BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMEN AND WOULD NEVER OUT THEM IN HARMS WAY FACTS...
Do you know when she will be eligible for another parole hearing?
@@MICHAELR86-q2uYou should love all women and not just because they are beautiful but because they are people. love them like sisters except ur wife
It’s honestly refreshing to hear a parent hold their criminal child responsible, all too often you hear of parents enabling their murderer child and coddling them. I loved hearing his father say “and what about michaela’s decisions?”
He was way to compassionate towards his son..
@@joehogan3691 Can you blame him? It's ingrained into us as humans. It must of been heartbreaking for his father to go through and I respect him for not giving in and acceping what his son did.
Kody's reaction to that was so typical for that type of person. It enraged him to not have the pity focus on him that he turned aggressive, demanding and making threats to regain control of the narrative. I can only imagine how exhausted his father must've felt by that time. So sick of a son who thinks only of himself and his feelings. I couldn't handle having a kid like that. He'd be in therapy so fast long before it ever got to this point.
@@joehogan3691 it's still his son at the end of the day.
He's showing what a normal thought process is, something his son is devoid of. He has to protect the rest of the family, he's probably figured out at this point he never really knew his son, and to let justice take it's course.
The fact that his father acknowledged the victim and her family.. 🥺. I love that for him. Speaks volumes about his heart.
Lets not go overboard. He should have told off his POS son and turned his back on him for what he did! He would have been dead to me upon seeing all the evidence against him and his confession.
@@johnsmith-ug5tpit’s easy for us to say what we would do in the situation. The truth is we don’t know what our initial reaction would be.
@@johnsmith-ug5tp love can be complicated and difficult. The whole situation is just unfair. Everyone is a victim in their own capacity.
I do! I'm not a wishy washy gray guy. I live in a black and white world. @@Griffin-58
Not in my right and wrong world. I could be deeply in love with a woman and upon finding she cheated on me, she would be dead to me from that point forward. The same would apply to an offspring committing such an evil act. @@jamestarrou3685
Javier is a great kid. Not only did he help police understand Micaela’s daily schedule and habits, but even her moods and thought processes. You could tell he really was concerned about her and wanted to help however he could.
Yea great kid. You don’t know him at all but I’m sure he’s a great kid. He seemed real broke up
@KeyDx7 .....they haven't said anything about Javier being involved. They're saying that even though we do not know him personally he seems like a good person.
@KeyDx7 only one jumping to conclusions is you.
@daniellebusam4839 no, you are bad at reading subtext. "He was real broke up" was sarcastic. The dude was poking jabs at Javier because he wasn't crying and mocking the dude complimenting Javier.
@@ScarlettFawxeh5872's comment went completely over your head. I hope english isn't your native language
I don't cry easily but hearing that dad sobbing when asking his son "What did you do?" almost got me. I couldn't imagine being in his position.
Right!? That fathers voice on that recording was the sound of pure and utter heartbreak and unimaginable pain. That was definitely hard to listen to, because the emotion was so raw and unfiltered.
It’s so messed up how we care more than his own son 😢😳
Same. I'm a mother of both. I have two sons & two daughters. 😭
Girly man 😂😂😂😂
@@SEIKOAE86 kid.
I have a lot of respect for Kodys father. A lot of people don't empathize with the victims of their chikdrens crimes and only think of themselves. He did the right thing by helping Micaelas family get the truth from his son. You can love your child AND do the right thing as a fellow human being.
Hopefully his bunk buddies will not have any mercy on him.😅😅
I came to the comments to say the same thing. As a true crime enthusiast, I don't think I've ever seen this. It's almost always the opposite of this, with parents claiming their child is innocent or even assisting them with the crime. His parents are truly amazing people worthy of much respect.
Listening to his Dad just ripped my heart out. It seems like he did his best but with some people something is just broken. No amount of talking, listening or attention is enough. Nothing is their fault and if its obvious that it is, all the attention deserves to be on them because of how THEY feel. If he hadn't fostered a relationship with his son, he wouldn't have confessed so quick.
@@katiemcdavid4124wishing rape on anybody is fucked up and gross
my heart always breaks for the parents of the kids who do such heinous things when you can tell the parents don’t deny their child’s guilt, encourage their child’s confession & help the investigation when they can. i can’t imagine being in his situation. obviously my heart breaks even more for that poor girl and her loved ones but there’s also room to feel for the parents who do the right thing when their child is likely guilty or obviously guilty. it would be absolutely sickening to have such an evil child who could do something so disturbing and heinous then continues to feel bad for himself even during the confession. hope cody’s having a horrible time in prison
As soon as I heard Javier talking I knew he was innocent. He was giving up all the information he knew, even told the police officer that he thought she was unsafe, something murderers usually don't do. He sounded very honest and I felt so bad for him because you can tell he really cares about her
Same
You can really see it in his eyes too
his rock solid alibi as well. If he was guilty he wouldn't disclose information what can easily be disproved. You know he is innocent the moment he tells his exact whereabouts.
Honestly, he seems like a very sweet kid. I hope everyone involved in this case is doing okay in their healing journey. I can't imagine the pain of loss they're still feeling to this day.
Yes
I’m glad you included his prison phone calls, as hard as they were to listen to. It paints the perfect picture of who Kody really is: a whiny, self-absorbed, manipulative demon.
God, he is the worst. I could hardly bear to listen to his whiny lying confession. We could all read between the lines and understand that he lured her out there and beat and stabbed her to death. Just tell the truth for once in your life, you might even get a couple of years off for cooperation
Feel sorry for his dad too who sounds like a decent guy
Why in the world hadn't they checked school surveillance very first thing?!
That was literally the last place she was seen alive 🤦♀️
Wouldn't the staff look? Just in case? To save their own butts legally?
I don't get it.
His confession has to be the most pathetic thing I ever heard 😮
Yup! It was all about how good a person he was and how evil his former girlfriend was. Almost like he was doing us all a favor by "offing" her. And I believe zero about how tormented he feels about dong this. @@CruzCruz-nw7fi
the interview is like 1 day after
what are you talking about
That poor kid cared for her so much, got off at 10 and looked until 2 am... What a guy, what a PERSON. Respect to him, his level of care for others should be recognized!
Yeah, I hope he can get over this and find peace and love in life, he truly deserves it
Also rest in peace to Michaela 🕊
The fact that Kody and Toni really expect us to believe Micaela was so attached to Kody, after Javier said in the beginning she kept telling Kody to leave her alone, is just sick.
*attached
Yeah, a girl would never tell her boyfriend one thing and do something else. Never happens.
@@haji818721 why cape for a murderer lmao... a cheating one at that
@@haji818721It's funny in a sad way that you're projecting your own personal issues with women onto a dead teen.
@@haji818721 what, are you saying she deserved to get murdered
Creepy as hell comment
Her boyfriend is a real solid kid. School, work, a girlfriend, and is super helpful and respectful towards authorities. Good man.
"a girlfriend"
well, that's a shame
@@putthetiming3016 lol
tf?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i see what you’re saying, but kids like him should be studying not working, sad that we live in a society where kids need to help make ends meat
@@SA-pi3zm With state of the public school system, coupled with the mess of indoctrination and debt that higher education is, children today receive better experience and practical education from a job as opposed to school. The real sad part is that this is the case more today than it has been in the entire modern era.
You can tell Javier really cares for her. So sad to go through such trauma at a young age. I hope he’s ok. And my deepest condolences to him and the victim’s family.
So young. So tragic.
yeah i was just thinking he seems very kind and genuine
Yeah he's a sweet guy.
Of all these interviews I've watched yeah, he just seemed honestly like the most genuine up front person and you could really tell the situation was eating him up.
his expressions and the way he'd correct himself, try to give out as much info as he knew- even if it put him on the suspect list. he's a good kid
Yea that part really struck me. Seems like a nice kid. So sad.
That father’s cry broke me. I feel so so horrible for the father and Micaela and her family. I hope Javier is okay, I wish we had an update on him.
Javier will be certainly ok. They were dating just for 1 and half year on and off.
@@lillychawla9079 1 year is a long time u can tell from his concern and distress that he loved her a lot lets hope hes doing okay now days but i rlly dont know how u recover after something so brutal and tragic:(
@@lillychawla9079yeah 1 year sure but she was murdered and he clearly was concerned about her and wanted her to be found safe. I'm sure that probably hurt him a lot.
@@lillychawla9079 thats like a lifetime to a high schooler
@@lillychawla9079 If my ex, whom I'd only dated for a few months, had gone missing and been murdered, doesn't matter how long or short the relationship was I'd be upset for quite a while.
You almost immediately can tell that Javier is being truthful and is a sensitive, kind young man. I can see why Micaela liked him. What a shame that some people in the world are so sick.
Yea she disrespected him a lot. You don’t go talking with your ex boyfriend & riding around with him. That was definitely not right, that young man deserved better.
@@walterdiaz7315 Yeah but that is what happens with the "good boys"
@@movimientoinformativo5314They were teenagers and one is now dead i don’t think this is the time for this
Agree, you´ve immediately got a strong feeling that he is sincere in his statements.
@@walterdiaz7315 did you not watch the whole video? Toni definitely orchestrated the whole thing.
It’s therapeutic to listen to javier, it’s amazing how quickly info gets ironed out when you have somebody who has nothing to hide at all.
Why was the call with the attorney recorded?? I’m baffled by that part, he was literally interrogating her like police. Is it a public defender or something bc if it is then i guess it’s true about them being on the same team as police. That’s crazy
@@MrGFloyd It was Kody's lawyer, not hers. Of course they are gonna use whatever info comes out of that to help their client. She, thankfully, was just too stupid to keep her mouth shut.
I love the way he speaks too, too cute. Such a good kid
@@AmyJoyLandry I thought it was cute too. he talks so innocently, kinda like a little kid- inserting mundane, irrelevant details such as he and macaela held hands while walking down the hall as if them holding hands mattered to police 😂 This is in stark contrast to Cody who seems very calculated and everything he says is dishonest and with the purpose of misleading police.
@@stancexpunks exactly, very childlike. He reminded me of how young they were
I feel bad for little Javier, man. It's such a shame. I can't imagine having somebody you care about...literally your person....taken away from you in such a violating way.
Depends how much you believe the 2 murderers about how the victim was still interested in the murderer.
And then having the murderer try and pin the crime on you.
@@dadoogieit was proven that they both were there when she was murdered. Why would she be begging this guy to get back together in front of his girlfriend? They obviously forced her in the car and murdered her. Ridiculous there is always that one creep defending these type of people 💀🤮
Bro even stripped her nearly topless while trying to discard of her body…. Disgusting
@@CallMeSkinny Defending?
The amount of times we've seen obsessive men just jumping at the chance to claim that their victim wanted them is astounding. It's as if murder wasn't enough, and they have to take away their victim's dignity aswell.
Happens with CSA perps too. It’s always super awful in those cases.
Oh give over, both men and women can be toxic. Grow up.
@@UncleKlausSchwabthe majority always seems to be men though
No it was mostly women cheating first like here and in many other cases
@@UncleKlausSchwab Well.. good thing she never at any point said women can't be toxic or this was something only men did then, huh?
Considering men makeup the overwhelming majority of all violent crime & sexual crime, it's okay for somebody to comment on the frequency of it, especially when something like victim blaming is being brought up because it's something that happens so often it's common knowledge, has it's own name created, & literally is a household term.
If she had made a statement saying 'all men are like this" or "all men do this", then ofc, let's call that out, but being this sensitive, emotional, & critical because somebody is literally just emphasizing stats or common knowledge is ridiculous.
It's pretty amazing that the police keeps telling us "Call IMMEDIATELY if you think someone is missing, the first hours are the most important" and then when Micaela's mother calls, they don't start searching for her until the day after. Nice job guys, knew that I could count on you :D
It is the first 3 half hours that need a quick response . But of course the Police have no end of teenagers leaving home . or staying at a friends without saying . but its no excuse a beautiful young girl goes missing they should act as a just in case . however by time she was reported missing she would have been dead .
I agree I do believe the girl hated her Micalia so much she persuaded Kody to kill her clearly it was planned with the plastic wrist bands and the shovel it may have been in the car , however you just dont FIND Plastic Cuffs like that , they wanted her dead , as it said . there may have been arguement ,s but they took her to the desert to kill the poor girl .
What she must have suffered and the fear and horror for her must have been unimaginable .
Safe in Gods arms . May God give her family help and love , and both parents of the two killers
@@justlooking777they didn’t look at the surveillance till they found her body. Sounds like they were still thinking she had run away. Unfortunately a lot of teens get classified as run aways.
Yet if the mother had still called sooner the search woulda started that many hours sooner even if it took a day after the call for it to start lol.
@@justlooking777But they didn't have anything to look for until after a bunch of interviews. They would need a warrant to view the videos and you can't just list vague stuff on the warrant.
It's like the police isn't worried about actually protecting people and instead waits to recover the body. You are not investigators. You are the protectors of the citizen. Your job is to protect the citizen, not wait until they are found dead
The way Toni is just nonchalantly telling the lawyer what happened is bone chilling. She shows no emotion whatsoever. She sounds like a true psychopath. I’m glad she told on herself. I don’t even know how she got the possibility of parole after this senseless crime. May Mikayla R.I.P.
It makes no sense to me either! She should have been given life without the chance of parole!
SHE IS! He is horrible but she had way more pull than they ever talk about. She hated that girl with a passion.
The fact that she has a other trial next year is crazy this girl needs to stay locked up. She’s a danger to society.
@katiejensen5547 where do you see that? I'm genuinely confused. What they read in her diaries didn't indicate hatred or planning at all it was angsty. Definitely not malicious.
Idk I see no "pull". Kody is pretty transparently unhinged on his own but I just wanted to see what you were looking at.
Considering how over reported this was, how you can see/hear a 100 different videos and tv shows, and read the entire court room testimony, there's really no good reason Toni got a slap on the wrist in comparison. It's more like legal leap holes and "Hey, they both said he gave her a concussion first, so what if she took his knife and slit her throat. The diary stuff is circumstantial! "
You can tell how politely Javier was trying to stress during his interview that this was not normal behavior. He knew they would look at her past runaway and assume that was all this was, and he was trying so hard to make it clear that if this was in fact the case, she would have told someone. Poor kid
Wow, Kody's dad seems really decent. He wanted his son to take responsibility and do what's right. He didn't say "stop talking now, I'm getting a lawyer, we're not cooperating etc." He had complete empathy for what Micaela's family were going through and how they deserved the truth. I don't know why Kody is so messed up but his dad is a decent guy.
Apparently Cody's father is the one who drove Toni to his son's lawyer's office to record that confession. He really did the best he could to get justice for Micaela's family.
@@lindam9018 gawd damn that father has my up most respect
I sometimes wonder how horrible people can come from environment this kind
His father sounds like a true gentleman and a kind soul and it doesn't seems like Kody went through rough times in his life he was just this horrible of a person, a demon at best plain and simple
Her boyfriend is so sweet!!!! I wanna give him a hug. He looked for her for hours after a long tiring shift ❤
Not to sound mean but who in the world wouldn't leave work to look for a missing loved one?
@@cainesy7913 he was already at work so i imagine as soon as he realized she hadn't gotten in contact with any friends after work when he could be on his phone he went looking
@@cainesy7913remember that they had no way of knowing she was missing in a serious way until some time passed--I imagine very few employers would take well to someone who ran off every time they didn't get a text from their girlfriend for a few hours, because most of the time, the person is just fine. It's hindsight that tells us otherwise.
@@cainesy7913dude he was a teenager not thinking anything was seriously wrong. Remember she had ran away before
@@kaitlynbrown1850exactly…. Ppl say the craziest things on here I swear🙄.. these are kids.. and as you mentioned, she had ran away before. He probably didn’t think it was that serious
This case was insane. I didnt think it could get worse! THE WAY TONI WAS NONCHALANTLY EXPLAINING WHAT THEY DID AND DESCRIBING HOW SHE WAS INVOLVED IS SO CHILLING. these videos are so well done, I love this channel
Yes, she was so clinical and sounded like she was placing a pizza order. Now I missed the part about why they were allowed to listen to a lawyer speaking with his client? I jumped ahead, did they explain?
They didn’t ever mention why. My guess is because he was not her attorney. She was contacting him to see if she could be represented by him. He told her that it depended on what she told him.
she sounded so detached, like she was just giving directions to a stranger on the street not admitting to cold blooded murder
Oh man! I was half way through the video when I read your comment. I didn't think Toni had a part in it. lol. Lesson for me: read comments at the end of video. 😂
They were Kody’s attorneys and they were just getting a witness statement from her. Then she decided to confess. Good thing she did too
Finally a parent who tried to get his son to face the truth without giving him a lame excuse.
LOL. Absolutely.
@betha.6279 lol how do you know?
@betha.6279he moved out because he didn't want to follow their rules
Aka a WHITE parent! Amazing how it's not all "he didn't do NUFFIN!"
@betha.6279You always leave shitty comments on videos like these.
His phone call to his dad was a clear indication of his narcissism. He was only crying about himself. How he was having nightmares. Even his dad tried to remind him about Mickeala and he just got pissed about it.
The father’s voice in their first conversation, at the station... Man, he is in an awful spot: loves his son, knows he’s broken, having to set the boundary that says “no escape from your horrifying crime”, possibly even somewhat scared of him, and just begging him to do the right thing. That’s heartbreaking. That’s real character, too. Huge respect to the dad for pushing him to face the consequences.
Yea real character and a wonderful man. He raised a good kid. I applaud Kody dad for all the accountability he gave Kody growing up. What a dad and great man
Before judging that man too hard maybe you should think a bit about the society you all live in. You love the roll of alpha, masculine men and feminine, petite women, like Barbie and Ken. The males are supposed to be tough, aggressive and go-getters, to take what they want and support their wives and children. Women are supposed to give their men and children what they need, support them, adore them and take care of every single need they have, clean the house, nurture the children and pamper their hard working husbands. So, caring, nurturing men are looked upon as gay or weak and tough females are looked upon as dominant or lesbians. This is the reality your children grows up in and what do you think happens when teenage boys don't get what they want? They take it or throw a fit. Kody was violent and unbalanced. He was also violent and involved with a toxic girl who's whole existence was to be a girlfriend of Kody, an accesoir. Not a self reliant and secure young woman. This is probably more what made Kody go along with the heinous crime than anything else. Kody's dad spent all his day at work, seeing his son maybe in the evening and weekends. How much of all this do you actually think he knew about? You are the only country I know about that have all this "teenage drama" where young people think you can swipe the problems away by killing a friend. It doesn't happen anywhere else! Maybe it is time for you all to vote progressive, start paying taxes used to create a society where both parents work a normal 6-8 hour day, with paid and mandatory vacation and stuff the rest of us already have. Then maybe you will have parents available to the kids while they grow up so that you can constantly give them love and affection along with discipline and care. @@eh5872
@@eh5872 I know modern youth in their quest to blame everyone else on earth and avoid all accountability put everything on the parents, but you can be a good parent and raise an idiot. I am such an example, and I know many others. Unfortunately, your peers matter and you are forced to spend more time with them, no matter how devoted the parent.
@@eh5872 It’s very likely that Kody has some neurological dysfunction that makes him an aggressive sociopath, and that problem can’t be fixed by a parent’s advice or discipline. If you ever have the misfortune to encounter a person like this, and try to “fix” them, you will experience the truth of the futility of that effort. Blaming the father for his son’s behavior is not valid. There’s no suggestion that the father abused him, or otherwise pushed him into this criminality or hostility.
Consider this: Are your parents responsible for all of your behavior? Are you nothing more than an extension of your parents? Do you have your own mind, making your own decisions, acting as an independent person? Do you blame your parents for all of your own mistakes, or worse, blame them for your crimes?
Other parents in this situation have attempted to hide their children’s crimes, and protect sociopaths from the law, while subjecting society to future murders. Kody’s father did the opposite, to hold Kody accountable, and to keep him from killing anyone else. So yes, he deserves credit, for seeing the situation for the catastrophe is was, and urging Kody to make the morally correct decision.
@@charlieevergreen3514facts! Well put.
This was edited so damn well, you guys really are the leaders in true crime coverage. No excess interrogation clips, lots of detail, laid out and explained clearly for us to understand. Thank you for your hard work, it’s really appreciated!
The voice is nice and bearable too. It’s straightforward and steady and not irritating.
Main reason why Imma run out of crime content to watch, cause I this is the only channel so far that keeps it concise even when the runtime is long lol
@@sk8queen I love the narrator's voice and have to admit that sometimes it sends me off to sleep, then I have to go back and try and find out where I nodded off!
That is true. Thanks for your comment
Yeah his production quality is excellent and just gets better.
Kodys dad seems like a seriously stand up man. His plea to his own son to do what's right for the victim while also not trying to sidestep anything, even saying what he's done is heinous. We see many parents try to do the exact opposite. You can tell how much it's killing him as a dad though
Really makes you wonder if he was always like this or it just took a crisis like this to sober him up. I really, really wonder about how good of parents these people really were. I'm sure there are some outliers - like parents that were great and their kid was fucked up by circumstances beyond their control - but its got to be in the vast, vast minority.
@@defaultname7685they judged his character not his parenting.
I actually think Kody wouldn't have been involved in killing Micaela if not for Toni's presence. If he was alone with Micaela, she would still be alive.
I don't think there's a difference between the two @@becauseican5821
@@davidoneil9975💯
Damn I teared up when Javier honestly asked why the cops weren’t doing more…..
They totally planned that murder. She should have had the same sentence. The fact she’s emotionless explaining everything tells it’s own story!
What do you mean premeditated? I always carry around zip ties, knives, shovels, and lighter fluid wherever I go!
@@keithselden2096 I actually do have all of that in my car. The lighter fluid is primarily for my Dremel VersaTip and VersaFlame. :)
@@keithselden2096😂😂😂💀💀💀 - So, you are the best comedian or an opportunistic predator 😅
@@keithselden2096 I mean having a fastener and a knife on hand is actually pretty universally helpful.
Now lighter fluid and shovels are a bit more suspicious unless you go outdooring alot.
@@saysay8920 I can understand the lighter fluid and shovel in case of survival situations (I have a shovel in my trunk at all times just in case) but based on their stupidity it seems like it was solely just for misuse as I doubt they'd put those in a borrowed car without bad intentions...
You could see the sincerity oozing out of Javier. Seems like such a sweet kid, so sorry for all those involved.
The guy gave off this, "Bruh, I went to work and then suddenly everything was fucked" energy. You know immediately with his tight af clock in time this kid's alibi was tight af, he was at work. Based on the time frame and age, he probably is working a restaurant or retail job, the kind of shit people would notice if you went off somewhere for a couple hours. It was obvious he was at work.
@@zettozettomer2640what motivation too!! Left school at 3:51pm, clocked in at work at 3:55pm!! Bless him!!
I dont even know how I'd feel in his shoes
His voice though... I wanna hold his nose... 🙉
@@kenzisdad02wtf
Javier really was so sweet when he asked for planes and search parties. He a good solid kid. I wish him well in life.
He really stood out as such a good kid. He deserves good things.
I agree. He was very sweet and innocent sounding.
He really cared. I hope he got some counseling to help work through such a traumatic event. Losing someone you care about is really hard, especially when it's in such a horrific way
let’s also mention that he had to find out she was basically planning on dumping/cheating on him
@@Timrock2355for real. no shade to her at all but he showed a lot of maturity and love for her by looking at the big picture and knowing that it wasn't the most important aspect of the situation. I really hope he's thriving and living a great life
I listen to these horrible stories so much I'm quite convinced that I'll never trust another person ever again.
God right. Especially relationship wise. They always start off looking like the perfect loving couples. But you just never know. Someone who may look like your soulmate at first could turn out to be your murderer. It’s scary because there’s no way to tell.
Since watching EWU I look at people sideways everyday now 🤦🏾♀️
As you shouldn't lol
Hola
Yo igual no confío en absolutamente nadie nadie. Es triste llegar a ese punto. Pero la sociedad. Nos está mostrando cada día. Lo terrible que escuchamos y vemos cada día 😢😢😢😢😢. Es un horror da pánico
I live in salt lake, Wendover is a very dry, alien, lonely and dusty place, the casinos on the border lend a desperate atmosphere..to end up in a shallow grave there, just incomprehensible..
Javier immediately stepping up with questions like “what’re you doing like do you have helicopters?” Is just telling that he is honest
That's what I thought when he asked that question
🎯 instead of asking about himself etc He’s a good young gent & feel this made him even more grounded. I wish him all the best in life 🙏🫶🧿
I actually thought that her body was dumped somewhere outside of town and Javier was worried they would find her body that way. I was initially thinking he was the killer
hes an idiot
he's a m*ron
The fact that Tony was the only one who had evidence that she planned the killing, and yet she got an easier sentence is… disgusting.
Yeah it's the 'females' we need to worry about mostly of course, as they do commit most violent crimes and murders worldwide.
@@HAL-dm1eh Female privilege.
@@natasha675Wow what an inappropriate non-sequitur... it's quite well documented that women get lighter sentences. Women are far less likely to get convicted, and if they are convicted they are far more likely than men to get a lighter sentence. Your point seems ridiculous here, and reactionary.
@@natasha675show us a case where a rapist got a slap on the wrist. What’re your pronouns? Sexist/libtard?
What did we learn here? Don’t murder your ex for your toxic high school relationship
Toni should never get out of prison. She’s already proven she’s capable of cold-blooded murder and if given the chance, she would do it again. She’s beyond creepy.
I agree she has the look of an evil character in a movie.
I know, what were they thinking? Cuz she showed no remorse or emotion at all, yes, she's very scary indeed.
Good riddance. What a cold blooded moron
@@MortgageGirl7 I so thought that too, a very bad horror movie, she so reminded me of the crazy woman out of the 1999's movie 'Misery' Also I couldn't help thinking when she said 'Mum comes out today'... I'm thinking 'Out of where?
Yes i feel like she was the demon within the situation that controlled everyone and she was jealous of micaela. Dumb ass cody got played like a fiddle. God bless that poor girls soul and her family.
The difference in sentencing between 2 equally evil people is mind blowing!
The prosecutor made a deal with the devil for her
no it’s not, one has a penis and one has a vagina. that’s how it’s always been that’s how it will always be, get used to it. sexism at its finest always with the cops
Javier is a great kid. You can just tell. Hes worried about his friend / girlfriend, hes very honest, he asks the right questions, he goes to work, gets good grades, and takes his girl to the taco truck for lunch, etc. His parents should be very proud of him! Im so sorry for his loss.
When they asked him if he had any questions, his mind immediately went to finding his friend and how the police were going about it. Parents def raised a good one.
Yes You ate a great kid ,keep your head straight and sorry for your loss ,stay on the straight and arrow,you will have a good future ahead.....
You knew he was innocent immediately
That dude odd as hell. Creepy one out of the bunch
@@gator2955This says a lot about you i think
I don’t know why but Javier’s segment hurt the most. He really drives home that they’re still so young. He’s so worried and heartbroken and you know the news absolutely crushed him. Poor baby
I’ve not got to him finding out but came to comment how he seems like I nice kid with his head screwed on. But just a kid 😢
Absolutely.. you get the idea that they were such just good kids..
I was thinking the same!!! He seems like such a sweet soul 😢 my heart truly hurts for her family and him. I hope he never changes and this tragedy just makes him stronger
You could just see fear radiating off him. He was so scared for her.
????
Massive props to Kody's dad for actually confronting his son and enforcing how immoral his behavior was and encouraging him to talk and tell the truth. When the narrator said they left his father alone in the room with him, I rolled my eyes, figuring his father was gonna tell him to shut up and that there was an attorney on their way right now. I feel awful for Kody's father, because you can tell he's absolutely torn up about this and he sounds like a good dad.
RIP Micaela, you are missed.
I would never tell my kids to confess, just my instinct as a dad. He doesn't know for sure at that point it was true anyway.
@@chaddad1488 He feels it deep down. Parents know these things.
@chaddad1488 he sees the pain the other parents are going through and xan understand what it would be like to actually lose him forever instead of for a "sort time"
@@chaddad1488if your child kills your whole family, I'll make sure to recommend he stays quiet and gets a lawyer. But if he kills my family, daddy getting him a lawyer and trying to protect him from the consequences of his actions will be the least of his concerns. You feel welcome to raise little psycopaths if you want. The rest of us will continue to make our children take their medicine. 😉
@@protectyourself33 We're not talking about if they took out my family, way to change the context though. You wouldn't get the fatherly bond, this dad is a traitor imo.
You can't see the difference between taking out your own family, and some classmate? I'll let you think for awhile and imagine why it's different...Bad analogy by you.
Toni's demeanor during her confession was more disturbing to me than Kody's. I have no idea how much of Kody's emotion was real or feigned, but even if it was feigned, at least he felt the need to feign emotion. Toni is the type who would be a camp guard at Auschwitz. It creeped me out how cheerfully she explained her murderous actions by saying, "I wasn't thinking."
Someone didn't learn a thing from WW2. My guy everyone had a capacity for evil, that's what makes it so insidious. The more virtuous you think you are the more likely you would be the first to break and do something terrible if pushed.
She was so bizarre. She just recited all that like it was nothing.
True but how the f is it legal for an attorney to record and use a call form someone seeking legal assistance? this is ridicilous
@@hisaonakai9489I know that therapists sometime record patients and those records have to be confidential. I’m assuming that had it been a normal consolation, the recording would have stayed private and there would be nothing illegal about having that recording. Lawyer-client confidentiality does not apply to criminal confessions. Lawyers have to report those kinds of things or they can lose their license. It’s similar to how doctors can bypass HIPPA and contact law enforcement if they think someone is in danger. Or how therapist will report clients who express interest in harming themselves or others. Privacy is important but they still mandated reporters.
@@hisaonakai9489 what?? If someone called an attorney and said they murdered and wanted counsel, how the hell would that be illegal/immoral to turn it over to the police? Just because someone is an attorney doesn't mean talking to them is completely confidential.
Javier was raised right and is a responsible young man. It was apparent he was completely honest with the police officers through his interrogation.
I'd be a lousy cop, i can never tell when someone is lying. 🙄
And not self absorbed. I found it really impressive that he knew her well enough to know she didn’t hide her feelings. Not every teenage boy would pick up on that.
@@kellidinit3725 i wonder why javier did not help micaela and step to kody to tell him to back off because he was bothering and making his girlfriend uncomfortable?
they wanted him to be guilty so bad
@@nelsonbohanon2190I’m glad they found nothing to hang onto !
The way Kodys father broke... I felt that. He was hurting for that girl. His heart was shattered by his son. My heart goes out to him, his family and Micaelas family. No one should have to go through this. I hope Kody and Toni rot in jail and are miserable everyday they are imprisoned.
Yeah, just terrible. You can relate to the family with how sad you would be at losing your child, but then realizing his son caused all that pain... Sometimes you can do all the right things raising a kid and have them still turn into this PoS.
That part made me cry
@@smithwillis7276yeah hearing his father break got me too
@@tcsprynce5748 forsure bro most definitely Ik what a off relationship is like with your pops and the fact that he's going off him not being there but now it took a crazy situation for him to actually be there ya shits sad forsure
The father most likely blames himself
I hope Toni's parole is denied again. She needs to stay in jail.
Same with Cody too.
@@jeromedavis8575 He's never getting out, which is definitely necessary. After hearing how he spoke to his dad, any family of his would be in danger if he was ever free.
Yea more than likely she manipulated kody by saying if he loves her they have to kill micaela or shed leave him. Jealous and insecure and being manipulative it is most likely the real scenario. And it probably was brought up those months before her murder when javier claimed kody tried getting in touch w her... Sad that jealousy can do that. They hadnt been together in years and both kody and micaela had moved on to "better" relationships... Mainly better in micaelas case...
toni lowkey bad when shes out im picking up ong
@@aprilMourning01bro what?
Girl looking like she didn’t get the part for Cindy Lou Who
One thing ive noticed in multiple interviews is a guilty suspect who was the last to see the victim, will claim that the last time they saw the victim was in passing with another person and give a very ambiguous description of the person
As a functional autistic adult, these videos make me realize I seem suspicious as hell when being totally honest.
I feel for you cause I think I used to be more that way when I was younger, though I'm sure I still have my moments
Honestly even your average Joe would seem suspicious just because of how stressful that situation would be for most people especially being suspected as murder
IKR HAHAHHAHA
Bruce Rivers has reacted to one of these videos before. There's a reason psyconomy isn't admissible in court, and it's that it's all bullshit. If the dude protested his innocence this channel would be like, "see? He protests to much so he's guilty." Hindsight is 20/20
Real
Aww poor Kody! 🙄 Playing the victim after taking someones life and trying to guilt trip his dad was disgusting.
You can tell he’s a master of manipulation so when it didn’t work with Micaela, he couldn’t handle it and restored to the outcome
He is a piece of shit💩 with the iq of a goldfish -
I just feel so sorry for his family and Michaela's family this is tragic...
The way he described what happened - what he did, just broke my f'king heart.
Like, I'm a seasoned youtuber and have watched some crazy f'king shit, but this one hit different.
I feel sick.
RIP Michaela
I've had enough youtube for today...
goodnight my friends
Guilt tripping his dad!
Just another one of the flaws in his character!
This young man just doesn’t get it!!
Im a Kody
@@BuddHound get help
Man, hats off to his dad telling him to do the right thing for Micela . RIP
Micaela sure is pretty. Toni is hideous. Kody is obviously unintelligent and has anger issues. Javier is an angel. There are no winners in this sad story. Glad to hear she was denied parole again in 2024.
she seems consumed by jealousy and kody seems consumed by himself and simply couldnt handle someone rejecting him glad theyre behind bars
so you’re saying unattractive people are all evil and all pretty people aren’t?
@@dovewingif ur ugly say that bro projecting much not wat he said at all
@@dovewing I think you're reading into that one too much. I never stated that.
the only thing you have to say about those two women is something about their looks lmfao
God bless Javier, he really was scared and worried. When he asked the cop if they had planes looking for her, it was so sincere but at the same time clearly established how young he is.
You could see the worry and fear for his girlfriends safety all over his face.
Yes it broke my heart, his innocence was ruined by this, I’m sure afterwards he learned that they use drones or helicopters for search but at that moment he hadn’t known about the cruel realities of life. 😢
Agreed 100%
very sad
Not to mention the conflict he has to live with- his gf was murdered while trying to cheat on him
@@tommyibanez3958 Come on; you really believe that?? This murderous guy was stalking her!
I haven’t seen any comments specifically noting how chilling it is that Toni, in confessing her part in the murder, self described as not being mad, just kind of frustrated at Micaela. This is someone who so genuinely thinks mild frustration is worth killing over that she can so casually and flippantly talk about it as though she were ordering pizza or chatting at lunch.
Her frustrations had been eliminated / satisfied.
It’s because these days everyone is desensitized and it has greatly skewed their moral judgement. They watch violence in the news and in entertainment daily. It has become acceptable to use vulgar language in normal conversation. Sex and porn are pushed on our children through the media, internet and now at least in some areas through the public school system. This slow drip of filth in our daily lives has allowed most young people to look at violent situations as just another thing that gets posted to the internet.
She honestly comes across (and speaks as though) she has some mental disabilities, possibly a brain injury or something. No idea. But it is absolutely terrifying, you're right.
She's probably on the spectrum. Not gonna generalize, but her room and diary entries also give that vibe.
@@EerieEidolon Such BS. Next you'll be saying playing violent video games makes you want to do violence yourself... Or listening to rock music makes you want to kill people. lol
Gimme a break...
You can tell immediately Javier cares about her and he's really trying to be honest with them bc he knows something is very wrong. He's a sweet boy. ❤
It’s really awesome to see the comments about Javier. I completely agree. I hope he is well, and has found peace. My heart breaks for everyone involved.
Toni should have absolutely got life without parole. The chilling calmness of her retelling the timeline of the murder, admitting that they kicked and punched her as she was trying to get up, the fact that she could tell micaela was incoherent as they beat her, she did everything that Kody did. Her sentence is appalling. For me, Toni was the mastermind/jealous girlfriend who convinced her violent boyfriend that they needed to get rid of her. Kody was so in love with Toni that even when confessing to the crime kept Toni out of it.
I wouldn’t call it love, more like obsession.
Female privilege. It's part of western culture. Women and girls are so used to it that they don't realise that it is happening all day every day.
I totally agree, she probably would have gotten it if it wasn't for the plea deal that she earned herself. hopefully they deny her parole again and she actually gets to serve a life sentence
Hey.... she told him to be strong, what more do you want!
It's simply female privilege - society is ripe with it!
Toni’s cool and collected confession sounded like she was reading off a grocery list rather than committing a brutally violent murder. She’s dead behind the eyes - no way should that sociopath ever be released. 😳
I agree, she looked evil with no emotion. Her voice never changed while she was stating her part in it.
Completely emotionless, didn't even feign emotion at what would be the suitable parts. An inexperienced sociopath is a pure one!
thought the same thing i think they gave the wrong persoon the heavy sentence.
Half way through when Toni first comes on. I came to the comments and you confirmed for me early, her vibe is grotesque. The facial expressions, everything. I bet she thinks she’s doing a good job of concealing herself there. But no, a heart of black right there. I got to “helping him move the heavy metals” why didn’t he ask you then?! 🤮
Unfortunately they're about to let her out here shortly, in 2024. Sad.
I REALLY need the police to investigate the teacher who just let's students borrow her car. Idk I agree with the parents that is pretty creepy
Right? Like a pedo van
Yeah thats hella weird she either wants to be the "cool" teacher or is involved with students. Either way dangerous id be pissed as a parent
She was a dance teacher when the kids were four, so not an actual teacher at their highschool.
She looks like a predator
Lol that progression 😂
Man, that poor girl. She was trying to hard to gain her awareness and ground and she still could’ve been saved 🤦🏻♀️
Javier is precious. When he asked what they were doing to find her i cried
Yeah but still the girl wanted the cody guy right ,
Women ☕
@@neyyattinkaragopan3042it mightve been a lie tho
@neyyattinkaragopan3042 I really don't believe that man. Kody changed his story so much and tried to guilt trip his dad, dude is a liar who wants to make himself look good.
I'm almost positive there's more to situation, especially with Toni. It's really just the killers word against literally everyone else's opinion of how Mickey felt about Kody... not a good look
@neyyattinkaragopan3042 I think you missed about half of the video bud. Like everyone around them saying she didn't want to talk to Kody and felt uncomfortable about him contacting her.
@neyyattinkaragopan3042 The blatant fucking misogyny and victim blaming in this comment disgusts me.
I am SHOCKED that it took the police several days to even request the school surveillance footage! They’d have had their suspect detained and found her sooner!
Yeah… Had it not been for that guy finding those tracks out in the desert… I think the case would’ve gone cold…
They had already “scratched” Kody off the “suspect list” after just ONE interview! 👀 Wait!… What?!
I didn’t really get a competent feeling from the Investigators…
i completely agree i was shocked it wasn’t the first thing they did.
@@lencicollier6492it's sad that most missing teens are immediately ruled as rebellious and ran away.
But it also depends how white and blonde and rich the parents are.
It's actually sad to look up the amount of missing native woman and the very little solved or even started cases.
Its not a rush its better to be accurate
@@michaelfiori6700oh brother
I pray Toni never is let out of prison. The idea she was given such a short sentence with parole that soon is outrageous. I think the lies are still deep in this story. So many unanswered questions.
Isn't her sentence still life though?
She'll be out in 10 years -- women only serve 65% of a man's sentence length, on average.
She actually terrifies me. Seems like the type who would absolutely do it again if the opportunity presented itself
@@neilsun2521 But it literally said, "Life with chance of parole." That's still a life sentence even if parole is granted.
@@neilsun2521it said her parole was denied. She gets another hearing in May 2024.
Kody crying on the phone with his dad was just so funny😂😂😂 i couldn't stop laughing "dad you didn't ask about my feelings" what a loser😂
Don’t be so hard on him😆 Clearly his family doesn’t appreciate him. They don’t even bother asking him about *his* feelings. 😖😫
Clearly he has to bear the weight of this tragedy every single day and doesn’t wanna be in jail 😫🤧🤧🤧🤧🙀
@@LordOfThePancakeswho cares about his fuken feelings he forfeited that right when he killed a little girl.
Absurd that they didn't look at the school's security footage until after her body was found. You'd think that would be the first thing they do.
That’s what I was thinking but maybe it’s due to some sort of privacy thing because it’s footage from school? It could require a higher burden for police to get this footage. Just a guess though
@gerardogomez1849 yeah, a lot of states have protection over school surveillance so the police would've needed a very solid warrant to get it
You’d think you would understand these videos are for entertainment, and edited together to keep suspense building.
It's too logical. Therefore cops look at it after they literally checked everything else. Always late, always a step behind.
Look at the detectives on here that gathered all their law degrees from watching Law n Order 😂
That father speaking to his son is a broken man. You can feel the emotion in his voice. You can tell he is a good man, a man that will do the right thing even though it must be the hardest thing he has ever done. Very heartfelt.
I feel for him. I can't imagine being in that situation.
@@emeryltekutsu4357he’s such a good man that he raised a terrible kid. Where was he when kody was acting like this his entire life? Father is saving himself. You don’t know this man and are saying what a great man he is. He is a terrible father that allowed his kid to be a bully and harm others and still babys him. Great man my ass
@@eh5872Sometimes people are just messed up pieces of shit no matter HOW good of parents they had. 🤷 Shit's much more complicated than your ignorant ass seems to think. Blaming kids for all of the faults of their children point blank without consideration is ALLLLLL kinds of ridiculously fucked up. Sometimes it's (at least partially) the parents fault, but sometimes it's not.
@@eh5872you clearly did not pay attention at all to this video. I feel bad for you.
@@P1xelJunK I did pay attention. And I feel sorry for you. I have my degree in criminal justice and sociology. Worked 15 years with the State of Michigan as a CPS investigator. It’s usually the parents fault. Just because the dad is saving face doesn’t mean he’s a great man. You have no idea the man he is. And neither do I. But I’m basing this on experience. You want to come help go to college and come sign up for some public service.
I don’t believe for one second that poor girl wanted to talk about getting back together, it’s weird how an alleged conversation concerning turning someone down turns into them being murdered. It makes no sense that they created this weird narrative surrounding their motive for killing her. Why did Kody initiate contact repeatedly to someone he doesn’t want to be with ? Why wait around (stalking ) her just to tell her you don’t feel the same? I’m lost to their entire rationale behind their actions.
Yeah, that part of the story doesn't make to me either, there was definitely a different reason she went with them.
I bet what happened was that Kody was trying to cheat on Toni with Micaela and it didn't go as he had planned, so he convinced Toni that Micaela was trying to get him back.
Toni seems a bit simple and easy to manipulate.
It's disgusting how even after admitting to the murder they still lie to paint her in a bad light as trying to break up their relationship, as if she wanted anything to do with those maniacs. What I don't understand is how they managed to manipulate her into getting in the truck in the first place.
@@ChuckPalomoand why was she already sitting in the backseat while they picked up his girlfriend? Like, if she truly wanted to get back with him, I highly doubt she would have been ok with picking up his girlfriend to “talk things out”… There wouldn’t have been anything the 2 girls would have to talk about regarding Kody. To me, he definitely made her think they were all just going to hang out, which is why she was already in the backseat, and explains why she even agreed to be in the car with both of them to begin with.
I really believe that Toni planned this whole things from the start and she was so incredibly insecure about her relationship with kody / had an idea that he wanted to be with her that she wanted him to prove in some sick twisted way that he only wanted her and not Michaela….and I think that Michaela was led under some false narrative that she was gonna hang out with the both of them
That makes NO sense. I want to get back with my old boyfriend so I want him and his new girlfriend to drive out to gravel pits to talk about it.
Like..............what?
Sooooo right. Makes zero sense. And that the two of them wanted to "talk" with her. Makes no sense. She wasn't looking to get back with him! It was premeditated murder and most probably instigated by Toni
It's so frustrating that the lie they chose and stuck to was that she, who was terrified of him, wanted to get back together with him out of nowhere despite years of stalking, past abuse, and her current relationship. One last attempt to disrespect her.
Javier seems like a great young man. Asked if they were looking for her with planes and search parties, making sure they were doing everything possible. Kody's dad was amazing. He showed compassion for Kody and Michaela. I recalled that his parents had known Mickey since she was 4. You could hear the absolute heartbreak in his voice. He knows his son is guilty and encourages him to do the right thing.
My heart broke seeing he's obviously worried and afraid for her. And he was eagerly willing to assist in any way he can, volunteering any and all information that could be helpful no matter how big or small. Poor kid💔
I cant believe Toni got the lesser sentence. Not only does it seem very obvious that SHE was the one who wanted Michaela dead, she seems WAY more cold about the whole thing. When Kody recounted what happened he cried and sniffled and gagged his way through the story. When Toni recounted what happened.. she sounded chipper and emotionless and nonchalant as if she were telling a fictional story. Tbh even a fictional story usually gets more emotion out of a person. Like she does not care at all. She should have gotten life without parole, as well.
@TheRoyalWe07I think you missed the point there bud
Women getting reduced sentences for the crimes is unfortunately nothing new.
@TheRoyalWe07 when the point completly flies over you're tiny head with a tiny brain.
I'm sure that Cody did simply do what his girlfriend wanted him to do. Toni was stupid to speak with the lawyer when she could have kept quiet and gotten away.
She literally has the eyes of a devil. I didn't need to hear her voice, but that also showed how wicked and demonic she was. She is a true evil, and I can't understand how she gets to be free in a few years.
Kodi’s dad’s plea to his son broke my heart. Too often you see the parents enable and even encourage vile behavior. He knows what his son has done is wrong and it breaks his heart. He seems like a good - albeit - broken man. Just so sad all around 😢
I am not an easy man to break down and tear up, but god damn.. That dad needs to know what a good father he is!
Yeah that got me too 😔
@@andiamocclash397 Clearly he wasn't *that* good of a father...
@@american_cosmicabsolutely horrible take bro
@@RikkiIndeed k
The ending of these videos, where you sit in silence a few seconds after it’s over, feel like whiplash
The way he manipulates his Dad on the phone, is disgusting…and his poor Dad actually apologised, to HIM! All his tears, were purely for himself….not even one single tear drop, seemed to be for Micaela, her family, or even his own parents.
Agreed.
Why was the call with the attorney recorded?? I’m baffled by that part, he was literally interrogating her like police. Is it a public defender or something bc if it is then i guess it’s true about them being on the same team as police. That’s crazy
@@MrGFloyd Dude, they can't keep something told to them a secret. Of course they are with the justice system. If they were caught trying to hide the fact someone admitted to murder they would lose their jobs and get in trouble too.
@@MrGFloydbecause he's kody's attorney, this info might be helpful to his client
Oh man, I feel so bad for Javier. I hope he is ok and was able to move on from this nightmare.
move on? chill ur asking for too much
This guy took a young girls life and all he can talk about is his problems and what has happened in his life, how he feels. Him, him, him. He is crying for himself but didn’t shed a tear for her.
Infuriating
‘He’s crying for himself’ The accuracy right there hurt..
Allegedly!
Did anybody notice the rock shaped like a broken 💔 at time stamp 34:15 just left of and slightly below center? It just caught my eye. I will never understand how people can murder. 😢
Me Monster
I dont know how to stop watching this channel. Somebody save me please!
Same thingggg. I feel nauseous or bad whenever I watch those videos but I can't stop watching em 💀
I feel like this analysis missed an opportunity to look more into the sick mind of Toni! A true psycopath. The hairs on my arms went up at her nonchalant description of a savage murder.
Yea, she creeps me right out.
Right?! At least he had the decency to plead guilty.
She was so proud of herself. Rotten bi*@#
ikr. She gave me 'Lady Macbeth' vibes.
I bet it had nothing to do with decency. It must be the smart thing to do in her situation. Also, its sick that she will be a free woman in a few years. A person who tortures and cuts a girls throat ever slowly will walk free. Incredible.
The fact that Tony got the chance to plead guilty to second degree instead of being sentenced to first degree murder without possibility of parole is disgusting. She was just as involved in the crime if not more than kody and she deserved the max punishment as well.
female privilege
Pretty well documented that women don't face the same punishment men do
Perfectly said and I couldn't agree with u more...
Could it have been their ages ? Cody looks to be of legal age...maybe Toni wasn't.
@@leanie5234 Both were 18.
If Toni ever gets out on parole it'll be awful.
She so casually explained the murder and didn't seem to care she took someones life.
Even confessing that they had a chance to save her but didn't.
Jesus christ.
Toni was the mastermind behind it all, she wanted Micaela dead and gleefully did it without regret.
I love how her sentence was life with no possibility of parole for 18 years but she's already having parole hearings at 10 years. It's a joke how we treat murderers with kid gloves while drug dealers get 100 year + sentences. Murder should be LIFE no possibility of parole EVER. If you took somebody's life, your life should be over, forever. No second chances just as there weren't any for the victim.
@@mat5473 It depends on whether it was in self defence or not but I mostly agree with you. Especially if you show no remorse or if you had a plan for it before hand.
Also I don't think people realize that Toni must have been feeling powerful and excited over the fact she convinced the guy who she loves to murder her biggest rival against that love (Mickie) with his own hands. Like Kodi basically chose between the two girls, and their (Kodi and Toni) celebration was murdering her (Mickie) together. @@BOBBY-n7m
I still don’t think the truth about the murder was stated by either one. You just don’t cuff a dead body.
I could tell immediately that Javier was genuinely concerned and in no way involved in this tragedy! The world needs more kids like Javier! So sorry for your loss...
Let me just say, in no universe did they drive Micaela out to the gravel pit to "talk". They drove there with the intention of murdering her, or at minimum, causing serious bodily injury to her. In my personal opinion, I think Toni was the mastermind. I think Toni and Kody got into some sort of fight and Toni said she wouldn't marry him because he still loved Micaela. He then probably said something along the lines of "I don't even like her anymore! What do I need to do to prove to you I don't have feelings for her" to which Toni would have planted the idea of murdering her so that she could never come between them. Just my opinion. I just feel like Toni comes off colder than Kody, and I think Kody initially leaving Toni out of the story is very telling.
My thoughts exactly. That she didn't get life is amazing.
I can't even stand her face
One hundred percent. Toni was the killer, Kody's dumbass was the weapon
She definitely came off colder then him .. I was sitting here in shock listening to her .
People often overlook how mean a jealous teenage girl can be...murderously mean at times, it seems.
What's insane is she confessed all that with a straight face and smiles.. and is aloud to parole. Shes a psychopath. I hope she gets denied parole for life!! Blessings to Ms. Micaela's family..
Just because she is eligible for parole, doesn't mean she will get out of prison.
So far she has been denied parole twice. She isn't up again until 2029
Hearing the pain in his fathers voice is harrowing, but I have the utmost respect for him for making sure that her family got their answers and justice, at the expense of his own happiness etc.
Like you said, as sad as it is , the parents who stay honest are some real freaking MVPs … it take some reeealll heart and soul to be able to be honest with yourself let alone someone else LET ALONE someone in law enforcement knowing where it’s going to go… as a parent , I cannot imagine having to live with that ..
Yea that hurt hearing his father absolutely heart broken
@@christinasmith272couldn't agree more
@@Nameplease12blacknobility *HEARTBROKEN
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this makes me grateful I was a nerdy shy kid my whole school life and no boys were jealous over me
High school age is so dramatic, and I'm glad to be far away from it now.
I went to an only Girls school in Europe. So we didnt have all these high school dramas!
I’d be jealous over you 😉
That girl should have to spend AT LEAST the 18 years sentenced to her before being eligible for parole. It's ridiculous that they would even allow her a parole hearing before then!
She should've got an equal sentence to Kodi's, at least. She was the premeditator -- should've got the longer sentence if anything. (But, of course, she's a girl -- easier to blame the boy.)
Her parole was denied in 2021
@@772amanda237 I agree! She was testing Kody to prove his love for her because Toni's so insecure she wanted Micaela out of the picture....Permanently. Toni is both evil and insecure which is a terrible combo!
@@neilsun2521seriously but allow her to rot in prison while he gets married in prison you people
It's female privilege. The reason women bring up "male privilege" as often as they do is to distract from the massive amount they themselves enjoy.
Javier is such a likable, good kid, I hope he stays the same and doesn't let this tragedy affect him.
How could it not affect him? His love has been murdered. He will never forget this.
@@someone3187 that's basically why I said that. Do you need that much attention?
@@someone3187 Oh and he discovered his love was not so serious with him anyway.
@@jz6219 on god bro
@@someone3187keyword was hope
i honestly think Toni should've gotten the same sentence as Kody. She was way more detached too. she literally could talk about the crime without any anxiety or stress or anything to her lawyer on the phone call, she was speaking as if it was a normal everyday conversation about what to have later for lunch wtf
She's a cold rat. 🐀
Exactly...she's scary and should be watched carefully from now on
1l
That often happens the women get off easier for the same crime.
Cant believed he continued lying after his dad broke down 😒
Man I really feel bad for that dad, he knew cody was the one who did it and he even seemed fearful about being in the room with cody, having to accept the fact that he raised a killer. it's so heartbreaking. The family aren't bad people, they just had a bad apple.
We dont know that. For him to have those violent tendencies etc. There is no way that his ex best friends family didnt talk to his parents about him. Same as how the school likely informed his parents about his abuse towards Toni and how the school kept them separated as best they could. I have a feeling there's a lot happening behind closed doors. Some people are great at putting on a facade. It's also possible he was just a bad apple, but I doubt it. People with stable and loving home lives generally dont kill others
No it sounds more like a broken and disappointed dad. I didn't hear any fear in his voice except sadness
@@LemursManLemurs1nah the way the father burst into tears talking to kody it’s clear that he’s a good man and a good father, he may have known his son had anger issues but no parent would think “my son will be a killer”. it’s not that hard to believe anymore that some kids can have the best parents/upbringing and still turn out evil no matter what you do, it’s scary.
We don't know that. What Kody said about they nor asking him how he feels, ever, reveals important information about how they raised him.
As he said, I think they all have a part in this.
@@harley4886 I mean. No shit he cried. Even a pretty shitty parent would cry if they found out their son killed someone. All I'm saying is. Y'all are saying hes a good dad from one phone call. Children often mimic what goes on at home. Again. Possible he was truly just a bad apple. But more than likely he saw violence at home. My dad beat the shit out of me until I could hold my own and posed a real threat to him. And he was very good at putting on a facade around other people. He was one of the most well liked people in my neighborhood. And same as how someone can have a great home life and turn out like shit. Someone can have a shit homelife and turn out to be great. I learned how not to be from my parents. And thankfully had good examples from my grandparents. My point is. You're making an assumption off of a singular phone call. No other details about his parents or home life were revealed.
His dad sounds like such a good man. Goes to show sometimes killers grow up in a good home and still end up being murderers..
You dont know that
@@scotv5243right. His dad can Sound like anything but we truly don't know what kind of household he grew up in or trauma etc
@ssssssssszzzz I'd say theres a pretty good possibility that this dad is exactly what he seems. In toxic or traumatic households it can be very hard for an abusive father especially to hold their temper in high stress situations. They don't typically think about if they're being watched and sometimes don't care. Cody showed no signs of fear of his father either of him just being there or of his reaction to telling him what he'd done. The dad broke down in tears right along with his son and encouraged his son to fess up and give the family and police all the answers they needed and basically be a man do the right thing. Also made sure to say he wasn't going to abandon him and he loved him. These are not typical of the parents that we usually hear about breeding monsters and murderers. Jmo
@@j.a.m.b4194 agree to this, very good observation on behaviors!
mhm..bcuz parents arent everything. Situations at school and outside count too.
Javier seems like a sweet kid - he was so quick to answer and gave as much as he could. He didn’t even try to hide anything - he spoke so quick and answered everything they asked. I hope he’s okay. He seems so sweet.
of course he didn't try to hide anything he was innocent, that's kind of how being innocent works lol what is this comment?
@@vicc6790 your reading comprehension makes me sad
Their writing ability as well. @@BookishDark
The fact he kept trying to mention her bf was a “Mexican kid” like that automatically makes the bf suspicious lmao dude was trying to profile him as a suspect to the cops
Listening to the recorded call with his father was a really hard listen.. when he said “I have hurt feelings” all I could think was “YOU have hurt feelings? Fck your feelings!” Thank you guys for doing Micaela’s heartbreaking story justice..My condolences to the family.
worst "thingy" is that he got his dad to apologise with multiple sorry sorry sorry
I sincerely hope the parole board isn’t stupid enough to ever let Toni out. Anyone who hears the details of this case understands that she played as big of a roll in Micaela’s death as Kody. In fact, she may have instigated the entire murder out of jealousy. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kody’s animosity towards Micaela that her friends described was caused by Toni’s insecurity and jealousy.
Yes. Toni is a really sick person. She is as guilty as Kody.
Her parole was denied in 2021
I agree. And doesn't their betrayal of each other, completely expose the true character of these scoundrels. They talk about "love". They don't know anything about the word!
This was surreal. The crazy B probably didn't even fathom what she had done and what she was confessing to. A complete loser psycho B.
Intresting he is wearing a Marine Corps poolie workout shirt. So he had plans on going into the military probably. It is a good thing he didn't. It is really easy for someone messed up to blend in as someone normal in the military. Messed up stories about someone that a person knows are pretty common when people drink together in the service.
I cant stop watching this channel. Idk if it’s one guy or a whole team but they do an awesome job. The editing, the narration, the investigative work they do themselves. It’s really good. I’ve tried to watch other channels with the same format and I just can’t get through em.
It’s definitely a team 😉
Definitely deserve their own series on Tv
@@alw8355 Nah, TV sucks.
Same, there’s something special about this channel. I usually don’t like listening to true crime but this account does such a great job explaining the whole process it’s very interesting
@@freedustin TV would insist on emotive music to manipulate the audience. Insulting the intelligence of the viewer by telling them what to think + feel.
okay dude im like 6 mins into this thing i can already tell javier is probably one of those kindest people u just randomly meet i hope i dont eat my words here but i almost feel bad for how nice he seems, i hope he does well in life