In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Isabella Guzman and analyzing the interrogation from an educational psychological and legal perspective.
@@mofozi and while that's true, they also need to control their own emotions to control the interrogation. With the "tactics" they were using they could've gotten anything dismissed against her. It's important for them to be able to keep a level head to get all the information to prosecute someone.
The best moment in the interrogation was when the pissed off officer asked her "Do we look stupid to you?". Isabella stayed silent, so the officer repeated the question and she said "I'm not insulting you". It may not have been intentional, but I very much took it as "I can't answer that question honestly without insulting you".
Yeah the interrogators fumbled but I can't help but notice the tone of some of these comments in regards to Isabella. Getting a real gross girl power vibe.
Hahaha. I got that feeling too. Like she was saying if i open my mouth and tell you what i think, it'll offend you. Therefore, i am declining to speak further on this issue cause im not gonna call you out on your srupidity hahaha
It also highlighted his own bad behaviour since he had been calling her names. Pretty sad when an 18 year old killer with mental health issues is more mature than the police officer. He was just venting and bullying for parts of this. So i bet her saying that was like a slap in the face to him considering how he had been behaving.
as far as im aware the only question they ask when interviewing to be a cop is can you read and count to 10? if yes then you pretty much qualify for the job.
The note that her mother left to her saying: “I know we have differences but I will always love you.” Hurts all the more know she was murdered by her daughter not long after writing it to her.
This interrogation sounds like grade school age children arguing with each other. The detectives were pulled down to her level and stayed there. Unbelievable!
No they weren’t wtf….they simply refused to play her games. They had all the evidence they needed already. She was identified by her father-she was caught with the knife used to kill her own mother. You stupid fucks act like you are smarter then the detectives when you aren’t. Just because they didn’t play mind games with a psychopath
When the super fragile interrogator said, “IS, TOO!” I just bursted out into laughter. A butthurt school girl is exactly right LOL. Also, he’s a shining example of a wife and child beater. I have absolutely ZERO doubt that he’s put his hand on women in anger at least once in his life, but I’d bet several.
I cannot see a single possibility that these interrogators have ever in their entire lives gotten a confession with whatever method they’re using, especially the lead, calling her an idiot and asking how stupid she is was insane.
Needing a confession or not, it’s still completely unprofessional. I wouldn’t even consider the lead investigator in being a street cop. Seems very power hungry.
Although I don't agree with the things they said and their methods, during that part I think they were just trying to make her brain understand that those shows are no proof of anything that she might think could apply to her. As you've seen, she put her palms up that meant lack of confidence and started to question herself about how true those TV shows are, by saying: "So, what do you mean?", "I thought it was real.", "Has to be real.". Because of it, that theory of hers died pretty quickly, otherwise they would be another hour with her speaking about true crime "facts" she saw on the TV show. So, that part wasn't all that bad. Asking if someone is stupid is not affirming it. Even if the suggestion is still offensive, it also makes people question themselves if they are actually being stupid. But calling her "idiot" or saying she has "a stupid look on her face that makes him sick", those were affirmations and it was a very poor judgement on his part. After that, was when I think things escalated too much due to their personal feelings. The throwing his arms in the air and the approaching of the police officer to intimidate her for some seconds, the yelling and cussing, the incriminating pointing, the hitting of the finger on the desk, the back and forth of "yes" and "no" without anything constructive added to convince her otherwise, the throwing the pen... That became quite abusive really fast. Very unprofessional!
Watching the cops and Isabella go back and forth with stupid banter is actually embarrassing. “You’re evil” “No I’m not” “Yes you are” “No I’m not”. “Yes you are” …. OMG 🙄 I wonder what this particular interrogation method is called?
That was some great use of the Reid technique by her when she tells the cop "You seem like a nice guy. I'm not mad at you for confusing my identity. Everyone makes mistakes.", thereby building rapport and minimizing his guilt.
Isabella: I'm not evil. Detective: Yeah, you are. Isabella: Nuh uh. Detective: Yuh huh. Wow. This is a real battle of wits here. Like a psychological chess match.
-Stop calling me Isabella. -It is your name! -It is not. -It is too!! -No, it's not. 56:40 when that detective yelled "It is too" Like holy shit, like a petulant child. High level interrogation. Like L vs Light Yagami
In what way, did she control the room, and interrogate the police? All she did was to constantly deny, the indisputable evidence, against her, and ask for a DNA test!
@@gracelovesme-r3jDid you not watch the same video? She managed to make them spend an hour talking about her identity than the actual crime. They even went as far as to bring her dad in to identify her. She is steering the whole conversation
Story time... I had a relative come down with schizophrenia when she was in her late 20s. Gave me a whole different perspective on this stuff. I used to think that if I heard voices that I'd understand those voices can't be real and go to a doctor. And I didn't understand why people just didn't ignore the voices. But with schizophrenia it's not only voices, it's that the brain constructs a different reality and the belief comes first and the brain creates the voices and feelings and logic to support it. For example my relative believed she had the power to predict what people on TV would say next and offered to demonstrate it for us. We agreed and she started quickly repeating things they said and mumble other words. After her demonstration (which clearly failed) she felt she had proven it to us and that the TV anchors were following her words, that she could control what they and other people say. She said we had the power too but didn't realize it. My parent kept telling her to stop pretending and that it didn't make sense, but my relative kept repeating that it was real. We thought she was on drugs and it was only after she got arrested that they suggested it's psychological issues. Long story short, the relative eventually got the help she needed and has been medicated and back in reality ever since. What is strange is the person can seem functional but they're living in a different reality and this is why it can be frustrating to communicate with them. What doesn't make sense to us can make perfect sense to them. It's a delusion and they can't escape from it because to them it is real. To me the scariest part of the experience was seeing how someone can lose control of who they are so easily. We think we are rational beings but if a disease can hijack our reality so easily then maybe we're not as in control as we think we are.
I cannot BELIEVE that their supervisors allowed this dumpster fire of an interrogation to go on this long without calling in detectives that have more maturity and professionalism than a 12 year old. How embarrassing for the entire department!
I think that's what should have happened. Tell the guys to step out and Take 5. Find somebody whose experienced with this. And say they've got a difficult suspect to work with.
@@afrya3307 It’s not to say any of us could have done a better investigation, it’s knowing that as soon as they allowed their emotions to control them, they lost all control of that interrogation. The same can be said for any confrontation in general. As soon as we allow our emotions to take the driver seat, we are giving the other party control over the whole interaction whether we realize it or not. (The other party could be children, spouses, coworkers, neighbors, keyboard warriors, suspected murderers, etc…) These investigators were very emotionally charged, easily offended, and deduced themselves to hurling insults and objects. That behavior is not acceptable of any professional person, especially a person of authority.
@@kristinahernandez564 but the thing is, they were not emotionally charged...sure they would have felt disgusted with her crime, but they could have easily supressed their emotions. See, this video only talks about the Reid technique in interrogation (a technique which has been critized a lot recently) but there are other techniques which involve interrogators displaying emotion... we see such techniques used in the gribble and spader interrogation and also a bit in the stephen McDaniel interrogation.
it would have been interesting to see a real interrogator try to get a confession from her, she definitely seemed like she was in control the entire time.
She is very controlled and extremely calm. These idiots r playing her game instead of getting to the root of it!!! If someone really wasn't guilty there'd b going off.... wouldn't you?
@@redneckreviews3016that doesn’t have anything to do with this. it seemed like empathy would have been a better approach as she shut down with them constantly insulting her
so true. almost every interrogation ive watched, the moment they finally call them an evil stupid liar the confession comes pouring out. so weird how it didnt this time ;)
Yeah they missed some boneheaded opportunities. The biggest one was the boyfriend. At about 29:00 she claimed that her boyfriend had ditched his phone but at around 40:00 she claims that she asked the Asian lady to use her phone to call her BF. Why didn't they call her bluff on that.
She’s literally using the police interrogation tactics on them, between shutting anything about her real identity down immediately and then minimizing and telling them it’s okay they made a mistake by falsely accusing her 😂 She’s better at their job then they are
This for sure. I would imagine the most effective approach would be to play into her delusion, act like they're on her side, and use the fact she literally gave permission to take her fingerprints and also ask for her DNA.
No she’s just refusing to cooperate no matter what and the detectives already know they have no chance of changing that so chose not to play along with her derangement
All they had to do was talk and ask questions to her alter ego and play along and go from there. And catch her in a web of lies that they use to dismantle her at the end. Beginner level shit.
I worked as a mental health provider in the prison system. We had one inmate that fully believed he and the guilty person had “swapped” bodies and he was an innocent person being held in prison while the guilty person was free, living in his body. He also understood that he had to stay in prison because he was inhabiting the body of the guilty person. Really interesting guy.
The conversation between the cops and Isabella is like listening to a group of 13 year olds squabbling. How the hell did they get to interrogate a goldfish, let alone an alleged killer?
It's difficult when you lack the training or intelligence to conduct an effective interrogation. Perhaps they're doing their best, life is hard when you lack a certain level of intelligence.
One thing I have learned from these videos is a smile, some comfort, and sympathy (all false, of course) gets a murderer to confess WAAAAAAY faster than yelling and being confrontational.
They had all evidences they needed to put her in prison for life, so they didn't take bullshit from her. In this case it wouldn't even work proper interrogation, cause she was crazy and believed what she said. 😗
The way I am more upset with these "detectives" than I am with her is insane. How is a schizophrenic teenager better at keeping her temper and emotions under control than "trained professionals" that are grown men? And the fact they threw a pen at her? This interrogation should have been thrown out because of the amount of verbal abuse and mistreatment of her. I'm not condoning what she's done by any means, but these "detectives" should have handled this so much better.
You people are a trip. This girl is in no way mentally ill. She is just a narcissist liar. They have all the evidence they need. They were just frustrated, as anyone would be listening to someone lie so blatantly and stupidly.
@Roosters-rants1977 if they had all the evidence they needed then they didn't need to go thru any of that horribly managed interview/ interrogation process. 😂
The narrator is literally meaner to the interrogators than to Isabella. "For someone that old to not have risen above that rank speaks volumes" GOD DAMN THAT STINGS
This narrator is quite the hypocrite! He trashes the Officers nonstop, speaking about how they should not insult her or let their personal opinions come through their treatment of that garbage. The narrator does not seem to have a SINGLE negative remark to voice about the vile disgusting heinous garbage piece of TRASH that MURDERED an innocent woman!
I hardly managed to get through this heinous video because of the narrator. I will absolutely not be watching anymore of this channel's videos because of this deplorable narrator that is so bad at his job.
They had a slam dunk case. The father witnessed her in the bathroom with the victim. It was already over. They were annoyed and impatient but this wasn't a case of having to get a confession.... they had her dead to rights, a confession would have just made it easier. They were annoyed.... it was unprofessional but who really cares. She was done at this point.
The psychiatrist she went to that allegedly said “she is just a typical girl” is also horrible at their job. What the hell is wrong with people in that state?
She went to the psychiatrist 3 years before this. Schizophrenia can be hard to detect at first, if at all. 3 years is a long time for more symptoms to come to the forefront
psychotherapy was quite literally invented to pathologize people and make them more mentally unstable; Freud said so himself. There is no such thing as a good psychiatrist; this one was 'good' inasmuch as they did their job making her crazy.
@@virtualmartinifreud was likely a pervert and a charlatan, cherry picking his data to support his theories, theories that could neither be proved or disproved. His ego, his concept of the Oedipus complex, his theory of sex being such a huge part of peoples minds (conscious and subconscious), his theory development stops at adolescence etc. I think he done much too much projecting and theorizing so much so that people ought to have investigated him for atleast sex crimes but I was a different time I guess.
I love that you put subtitles on everything that is said, even the narrator. This makes it a lot easier to follow. Not only is the contents interesting, but the production is very good. Keep up the good work!
@impressiveemu1259I'm the same way but I love having the subtitles, I also have the subtitles on my t.v. 24/7, my son took the habit from me also. But I find myself staring at the subtitles and if I turn them off then it feels really weird. Even though I can hear fine, just habit I guess! Lol
I’m absolutely baffled at how terrible these interrogators are at their job. All they had to do was play into Isabella’s delusions just a little bit to probe her for info and see the headspace she was in at that moment, but instead they resort to personal insults right off the bat as if dehumanizing her will get her to give them information immediately. So unprofessional, these guys need to be retrained or fired.
@whatthe3131 they dont need to be psychiatrists to be good at their job. this job absolutely required manipulating the situation to gain information, and that definitely involves enabling the suspects antics as well as dancing around certain topics and being selective of their language. this channel has shown me the difference between a great insightful and effective interrogation compared to an interrogation that was ill-performed. these men require better training or to otherwise be retrained before they perform any more interrogations. if you realize you are becoming emotional while interrogating someone you are letting your suspect get to you and that makes you a liability, its incredibly important to know when to leave the room to let someone else take over and these men not only did not do that, but they also did not correct eachother which is a huge problem.
@whatthe3131 just bully’s with no patience or understanding off the Reid technique or how to get simple confessions or they simply have terribly marriages or hate women mother issues or just racists there is certainly something deeper going on with this guy. Maybe he’s been taken of the streets & put on desk job for being sexist & he’s taking it out on her .
Maybe i have dark humor. But the ammount of denial and gaslighting Isabella does during the interrigation is really funny to watch 🤣🤣🤣 i wouldve lost my shit lmao
Cops didn't need a confession. What scares me are the others who think she was delusional, while she is clearly lying. Cop know the situation better than all these doctors that already caused this death saying she was normal, and now will cause another one of they set he free.
When she’s like “I didn’t kill anybody..” & He’s like “Yeah you did you killed your mom last night” Definitely a middle school argument in the cafeteria 😂👏🏼👏🏼!
Applying an empathetic technique just requires an interrogator to be willing to walk in the suspect's shoes until that suspect trips on their own shoe laces. These guys tried to steamroll her and seemed genuinely insecure when she suggested they weren't doing their jobs right.
@@mountainheather49 they are supposed to be trained professionals. yes, what was said was aggravating but not to an extent to where these detectives should have let themselves get pulled down and stay there the entire time. i mean just watching the interview feels like watching grade school children fight.
In the end they said she was not guilty because she had schizophrenia and was insane she was released in 2020 from Colorado Mental hospital and now she is living her life as a normal human being
As a person who has worked on a locked psychiatric ward, it was amusing to watch these detectives battle the power of delusion. Confronting delusions often only intensifies them. A little bit of training in mental health disorders might’ve helped them recognize her psychosis and saved them the embarrassment.
Yea it’s just ignorance of mental health and illness. The narrator made good comments of when the investigators asked good questions “have you ever seen a psychiatrist or been diagnosed” but they then quickly lost the wheel again to their emotions
@@honeyimhomewhoop Op is stating how incompetent the detectives are. You're getting randomly offended when this isn't even about you or any other "patient".
We knew a woman who was diagnosed with schizophrenia when i was growing up. She once thought her kids were kids from our family and would constantly give us her stuff saying it was ours and we left it at her house. Schizophrenia is terrifying. She was like two totally separate people.
My brother suddenly went schizo at age 25, it's like his mind was replaced and he had completely different mannerisms. He talked different, he walked different, it was like he was a complete stranger. It's the strangest damn thing I've ever experienced ~ by far.
Yep. None of which matches this girl's behavior. This is classic dark-triad narcissism. Gaslighting, threats of violence, actually becoming homicidally violent, superiority complex, utterly convinced she's smarter than them(she probably was), and never ever going to release herself from her own delusional fantasy.
I know lots of true crime channels claim they have "never before seen footage/information"... but this channel is the only one that I actually believe every time. I've seen this story covered many times, and this is the first time I have ever seen this interrogation! Well done EWU - one of the best true crime channels to exist :)
@@ammo_van_raventhe narration is good for those of us who listens to it like a podcast, that way we don’t need the visual all the time. (And it’s probably good for visually impaired people as well)
I had a narcissist girlfriend once, really odd behaviour, behaviour I’d never seen before. Even if you had the evidence in front of her she’d still deny it, you either went crazy or you actually start to believe her and at one point I actually nearly started to believe her until I snapped out of it and realised/realized what was happening. This lady reminds me of her.
@@SimooGames There's no shame in admitting that she's pretty, because her being a murderer is a completely different thing. We're not saying she's a pretty murderer. She's pretty, it's obvious to the objective eye
Tbh, if somebody put that kid in her place she would've been disciplined to not do what she did. Go work in juvie, I'm telling you once some hit 18, the whole baby talk bad guys thing is what makes them self victimize themselves. No abuse, discipline that's different lol ppl get yelled at more in the military.
It’s genuinely baffling how incompetent these “detectives” are as interrogators. Edit: Be advised, the replies to this comment are an absolute sh*tshow.
Ready to apply? How much blood do you think they’ve seen in that bathroom? Do you think the mom was even recognizable?? Can you handle any of that? And now you get to the killer and she claims she’s not Isabella…
@@afsoon542 .....yeah that's their job. They did apply. If there is no distinction between a random commenter's capacity to effectively interrogate and suspect and a trained detective's, then there is zero point to the training or to the profession in its entirety. And based on the comments it seems like the average joe can understand they didn't perform their duties.
It’s ridiculous that the comment section is so void of common sense and free thinking. This psychopath just tricked her way out of a murder conviction and all the people in the comments can focus on is the detectives. Why? Because you all have a sickening need to feel acceptance from complete strangers so you comment on whatever everyone else is commenting on. No individuality whatsoever. Absolutely pathetic. Grow up.
The thing is that a botched interrogation can easily lead to a bad guy getting away with a crime. I truly was embarrassed for these guys. It tells me that there's a lack of training which means supervisors have not done their job. What a mess.
@@TalkingWithTiff Yeah 100%, it was so cringeworthy watching it, even made me laugh a few times how bad they were and her responses. They got themselves so emotionally attached from the get go that they gave her so many opportunities and openings to refute what they were saying and to gain a little control over the narrative. "Shoddy, shoddy workmanship" to quote a line out of Father Ted🫣🤣
@@irenestrmnss4496 schizophrenia is a neurological disorder with strong genetic ties, just because it's latent at that age doesn't mean it's absent; also she wasn't three at that age. she was three when her parents divorced; not when she was sent to live with her dad due to her difficult behavior
@@irenestrmnss4496she was sent to live with her father at age seven for behavioral issues and then later moved back to live with her Mom. I do wonder how her parents missed the signs of her schizophrenia though. And while it is uncommon for a person under the age of 12 or over the age of 40 to be diagnosed with schizophrenia, it does happen occasionally. My friend’s sister displayed bizarre behaviors from childhood but wasn’t diagnosed as being schizophrenic until her late teens.
Shut up.. she killed her own mother and u are saying how horrible the detective's are being and bullying her.. r u fucking kidding? She is a murderer !!
@@napolimerda726 she was identified as the killer so yea? Edit: the OP Said SHE should be Set free BC the Police didnt know she was the Killer/didnt confes to the crime Even tho WE know IT was her
She just killed her mother. Hell is wrong with you. Your the reason we have entitled teens running lose. Oh, we mustn’t say anything bad, they will get upset.
this channel is fantastically produced, I have learnt so much watching them that I now find it fairly easy to realise & notice the huge mistakes and opportunities missed by these poor detectives thank you for such an interesting episode
@@lettiegrant9447their job is to get answers out of the suspect, and nothing they did follows standard procedures. They did everything so unprofessionally, and it’s upsetting. Personally attacking and antagonizing her is completely unacceptable.
It’s crazy how cops can handle an open an shut case like this so poorly. They left themselves wide open to all kinds of scrutiny in court by not following procedure. This is embarrassing to watch.
No they did not they had more than enough evidence and were simply trying to get a motive.... what they did was similar to the gribble and spader interrogators....people just parroting what this silly narrator is saying
The detectives treated this like a slam-dunk conviction before the interrogation even began. They were too impatient, perhaps emotionally-driven to allow her to incriminate herself. This is a dumpster fire of a hot mess.
Well it was a slam dunk case....they had so much evidence.... if the girl did not fool the ONE shrink who wrote the mental health report to the judge and prosecutor she would be in prison for life...these detectives did not do anything really wrong, people are just parroting what this silly narrator is saying Who most likely has limited knowledge on police interrogations
@@YokaiX Wouldn't that suggest you proceed with extra caution to ensure success in regards to meticulously gathering all the evidence required following the proper procedure to guarantee a conviction through evidence and proof beyond a reasonable doubt instead of being reckless and fumbling multiple times?
This is DEMONIC. They are not facing a human, thry are facing a demon posessed child. This is what they do. Demon posession seems confusing. Most people WANT to believe that this isn't real, its only "in the movies". It's a demon, or MANY in her. It's why they're seemingly talking to more than one person......THEY ARE. It's demon posession.
SHE didn't make the detectives snap. They were shitty detectives, and should have been removed from the room the second they started yelling at her. This is brutally difficult to watch these two grown men, presumably trained, be bested by a young girl simply because they couldn't get it together long enough to just wait for her to start talking, no matter what it was about, and then respond accordingly with the information given.
Right? I thought the same thing…they didn’t let her talk at all and when they did they acted annoyed. Who wants to talk to someone who acts like that? This interrogation made me mad
She would have bested you too, because no technique would have cracked her. I've watched way too many interviews and she displays zero fear, and without that you have no leverage. They could have summoned God himself to the room to ID her and she still would deny it. And if finally she decides to drop that lie for a new one she would cling to it just as stubbornly. You could be in there 100 hours with her and get almost nowhere, and she would be winking at you across the table the whole time. You know she's lying, she knows you know, and she's having a blast forcing you to engage with her. She's having a grand old time.
@@shawnkilpatrick4839we'll never know because these buffoons didn't apply any reasonable strategy at all. She may have opened up if they built the report enough to catch her in a few undeniable falsehoods, but they didn't execute the proven methods.
This is the... 3rd? Yeah, 3rd worst interrogation I've ever seen. Topped only by the one where the dude had bullet holes in his face while being accused of murder and the one where a guy had swallowed a bunch of drugs and was left to die in an interrogation room. So I guess these guys just barely avoid being the worst detectives on the internet.
Yeah that case broke my heart. The guy that was interrogated when he was the victim and then ended up dying from his injuries. I think that was my number one. Worst interrogation ever seen.
@@anthonyrusso6696 This is why you don't say "he's a murder, **** him" instead of providing proper medical care. Police know that bullet wounds can be hard to find, its in their training for first aid in the field. If you can't stomach caring for someone in custody because you think they're bad then find a new line of work. Wallers death was at minimum negligent homicide.
@@anthonyrusso6696 He was visibly injured and in need of actual medical care. Even if it wasn't a gunshot he had visible damage to the face and was barely stringing sentences together. Even if the cops were right he could have sustained a head wound tripping or something like that (it's not important to my point). A paramedic isnt a doctor, had a doctor missed it and said "nothing is going on" we'd be in a different situation. Had the police not concluded his guilt I am confident he would have been treated very differently. So yes, I do think they had the mentality of "he's guilty so F him." Not "F him" as in let him die, but certainly don't take him seriously and let him see a doctor after he comes clean.
When I worked as an interpreter, one of the first things we were taught was to not let our emotions get involved when working an interview or interrogation, especially when the situation involved a court case or immigration. Handling an interview incorrectly could throw everything out the window, and if the person being interogated or interviewed has a very good lawyer, they can walk free. These interrogators made so many mistakes from the beginning
Did you know what is more scarier than what this girl did to her mother? The fact that she could have walked free because of how bad the police interrogation was. I do hope these gentlemen have learned from this situation.
The interrogation was a formality by all accounts. The case was air tight due to: Physical evidence found on scene, DNA testing, and an eye witness to the incident. The only way it could get more concrete would've been if they'd had a magic camera that caught it all on film. The only way she'd theoretically walk away free would be an insanity plea, which if that did occur then nothing these investigators could've done, regardless of how perfect they were, would've changed that. That relies on psychologists. Instead we should see this as a lucky opportunity that we managed to catch their mistakes on a throw away case instead of finding all this out much later on an investigation that would've actually relied on their skills. Now we have the ability to replace them or retrain them with minimal damage done.
I really do think she was suffering from undiagnosed mental illness. What she texted her friends days before what she did to her mother is bizarre. The fact she called her mother some other name is also a red flag. She was not a sane person and the psychiatrist her family went to go see really fucked up by saying theres nothing wrong with her.
She made a huge mistake right around 40 minutes. She told the officers that she went to the h Mart and ask the lady to use the phone because she's trying to get ahold of her boyfriend. But then told the police after she said that, that her boyfriend doesn't have a phone. She also said that two or three other times before that as well. And no one caught it, not even the person making the video.
Thats what I thought, and she easily avoided ever answering if she even knew her boyfriends number or what it was so they couldn't call him. They just kept talking over her answers instead if letting her dig deeperlies and then finding inconsistencies.
Damn, this might be the worst interrogation I've seen so far. They just seem to be outraged and lashing out at her for emotional satisfaction, which is teenager behaviour, not interrogator behaviour.
These guys are right up there with the two morons who interrogated Sarah Boone. They’re SO bad that I wonder if they’re just going thru the motions because they have SO much evidence that the confession is really not necessary. Or so I hope that’s why they’re this bad at their jobs!
@@mpantony9684 it is hard to tell nowadays lol and I agree these investigators are terrible. After she went to the mental institution 2 months later she asked to be released so I would put my money on her knowing that she is isabella
Her response to the detectives showing pictures of herself Isabella: “she’s pretty” . Like no you did not just give yourself a compliment I definitely chuckled at that 🤦🏾♀️
the fact the incompetent cops didnt realize they were dealing with a schizophrenic suspect is mind boggling. they were so busy trying to be "tough guys" that they missed so many opportunities to get deep into this girl's head.
So the Police missed opportunities to get inside a diagnosed schizaphrenics head?!?! How odd. I wonder how the Police, who obviously aren't psychiatrists, missed that???
they are not educated and live in a time when mental disorder was either not real or not talked about. Fortunately in this case she got institutionalized and not sent to prison.
Live in a time where mental illness is not known?!! Come on… this video was from 4 days ago! Listening to her I knew she was schizophrenic… I diagnosed my cousin with schizophrenia and I’m not even a doctor. Detectives are clueless of mental illness! This was so unprofessional on so many levels. The fact that it continued as long as it did and no higher ups through him out from his behavior shows that whole facility is BAD and needs to get knocked down and rebuilt again. She could have also had multiple personality disorder too! Not saying what she did was right… by no means. I’m just saying she is not in her right mind and they should have known it was a mental issue. The dad too as well as the mother…
Instead of using the interrogation to gather information the investigator used it as a power struggle. "I'll be DAMNED if I let her boss ME around". I'm not trying to downplay how horrendous what she did was but this guy strikes me as the type who, even if the person DIDN'T do it, he might STILL strongarm them into signing a confession under duress.
I'm actually surprised they didn't get some EMT's into the interrogation room to overdose her with ketamine so as to cover up this abomination of an interview.
Crushed me the way her father walked in saying, "That's my baby." after he was asked to identify her. His voice was cracking and the way he went to her was just heartbreaking. He looked so broken at that point.
Why did they not explain to her that genetic evidence will 100% catch her no matter how clever she thinks she is. It doesn't matter she's no blood related.
My wife is a retired police detective. She was appalled at these two police officers. They are not interrogators, just missing opportunities to understand the crime and the perpetrator.
Can your wife not please report or bring attention to these two clowns? They would be the reason why criminals walk free or why the police department gets sued or even why things would be thrown out on technicalities.
@@rose-mariewarburton6228 I'm not sure what your asking here. Are you asking the detective to report this so criminals will get off or wont get off due to bad interrogation skills?
This little teenage girl outsmarted them both by throwing a curveball they didn't expect, and they never recovered. As soon as she said she wasn't Isabella, they should have left the room and come up with a game plan because the Whack-a-Mole technique was not working.
I watched this with my dad. He’s a retired police chief and pretty much said the same thing as you. Neither of us could help laughing at the “You made a mistake. It’s okay, I’m not mad at you” part though, lol.
What about any of this interview makes you think that she wouldn’t have lied…? She wouldn’t been like “my moms at work, my moms already dead, I don’t know my mom”
Exactly. There’s a reason they use the opposite technic. This was 2013 but they really fucked this whole case up and no wonder she got the insanity plea
@@mgntstr Well she essentially got away with it because of the antagonistic attitude detectives gave. Its similar to if Judge snaps it makes the court invalid and so the convict has to go thru retrial by different judge. Its also entirely possible the court wasnt taking the detectives claim seriously when they were found on record to be overly antagonistic, which made her be "less guilty" and as result got away with it and was sentenced to mental facility instead of prison
For the record im no detective or someone studying law, i just after observing it looked that this case on the part of interrogation fallen apart so the prosecution had more difficult time convincing judge for harsher punishment
It's incredibly confusing dealing with someone like her. They could have been more patient but it reminds me of that case where the cop is interviewing that young guy who had been shot in the face and was saying all kinds of random shit that made no sense.... the cop just didn't believe what he was seeing because it's much more likely you're being lied to by another run of the mill criminal than it is you're dealing with a truly unique case.
If the evidence wasn’t so incriminating, this case may have been thrown out! These are the worst, most antagonistic, untrained Detectives I think I’ve ever seen! They should be taught a lesson on what Effective Detective Work Actually Looks Like!!!!
They should be made to watch videos on this channel. Videos that show brilliant cops who know how to slowly, steadily bring a suspect towards the breaking point, where he finally confesses.
@@ImranAli-qh6iz what a dumb thing to say. they shouldn't have this job if they let their emotions get the better of them, other more professional detectives could have actually gotten information from her.
I have been watching your channel for a while, and this has been the most difficult interrogation. These detectives came in too cocky thinking it was a slam dunk, they blew all the interrogation techniques i have seen laid out as standard protocol. When the interrogators lost it she was able to control the interview
It was a slam dunk. There was no question she did it, they just wanted the motive if possible. Her plea of insanity being accepted doesn't mean the prosecution didn't have enough evidence. It means the judge, the prosecutor, and medical professionals AGREED she was schizophrenic.
- literally. Rookie style! A lot of case interrogations are all about “entrapment” techniques and using lies to convince them they’re the culprit. Some innocent people are wrongfully convicted too because of interrogation pressure and wrongful admittance of the crime. I feel like she could have ended the interviews way earlier by just knowing her rights and not waiving them.
It took an hour for them to shut up and listen to her. She is making up lies on the spot for her fabricated identity. She has an excuse for plot holes as they come and her doing this disproves her angle of an insanity plea because delusional people with a psychotic schizophrenic episode don’t do this. They are living a delusion not making one up as they go for what’s convenient for them. It’s an hour of an 18 year olds fabricated delusion beating seasoned cops here. Crazy. They also care more about being in control than eliciting evidence. The “art of war” shows that you can be in a huge advantage by pretending to be in a position of weakness and having your opponent think they are stronger. So for instance letting her think your believing her lies makes her make up stuff she thinks isn’t being cross examined. My god this is simple stuff, these cops must have been on the scene or something and impacted by what they saw
This is the stuff of nightmares, very people people could handle doing what they do, and it's frustrating to see the detectives being attacked instead of the monster who murdered her mother. I'd also like to know where/who diagnosed her with schizophrenia because I don't think that's her issue. IMO she's lying and isn't delusional. She's just your garden variety psychopath.
I've had encounters with Denver and Aurora police officers. Denver police were professional and Aurora police acted like wannabes. That was back in the late 80s, early 90s. Nothing changes I guess. 💯🙏💛☯️🌞
It’s impressive that this schizophrenic teenager was more in control of her emotions than these supposedly “trained professionals”.
when I started watching I couldn't understand why everybody was so angry at the detectives but man...
they need someone professional to do the integration, let alone why the detective get pissed off by a psycho ?? Not worth the energy at all
She's innocent. I hate how you people all side with the police. The State. I bet you all got the vaxx and wore mask too. SHEEP BAh BAH BAH
Yewh
Because she remains calm? It's a damn trait of schizophrenia. She was wasting their time and resources.
It’s crazy how the police let her get under their skin so easily. This interrogation is so hard to watch.
They are idiot thugs. They should not have this job.
It's because their skin is paper thin.
They were aware of what she did to her mother
A total mess
@@mofozi and while that's true, they also need to control their own emotions to control the interrogation. With the "tactics" they were using they could've gotten anything dismissed against her. It's important for them to be able to keep a level head to get all the information to prosecute someone.
The cops say she is stupid for believing a TV show is real, yet they interrogate her like cops do on TV. Ironic.
He said not everything you see on tv
I also thought Forensic Files was real.
Forensic files on a bad day are better than these two
Fr 😂😂
Forensic files is 100% real
I like how this channel critiques the officers and suggests what should have been done better. Its really neat.
These types of cops are how criminals go free
The best moment in the interrogation was when the pissed off officer asked her
"Do we look stupid to you?".
Isabella stayed silent, so the officer repeated the question and she said
"I'm not insulting you".
It may not have been intentional, but I very much took it as
"I can't answer that question honestly without insulting you".
Yeah the interrogators fumbled but I can't help but notice the tone of some of these comments in regards to Isabella. Getting a real gross girl power vibe.
@@Etrius10 lol yeah girls are gross
Hahaha. I got that feeling too. Like she was saying if i open my mouth and tell you what i think, it'll offend you. Therefore, i am declining to speak further on this issue cause im not gonna call you out on your srupidity hahaha
It also highlighted his own bad behaviour since he had been calling her names. Pretty sad when an 18 year old killer with mental health issues is more mature than the police officer. He was just venting and bullying for parts of this. So i bet her saying that was like a slap in the face to him considering how he had been behaving.
Yep, and even that went straight over their stupid heads.
Man these cops are honestly driving me crazy. how the hell did they become detectives?
They are from USA, it probably took them a few weeks of school
Politics. No government related organization is free of politics and corruption. Not one.
@@Retzmag calling it a school is being generous
Homeschool at best lol
as far as im aware the only question they ask when interviewing to be a cop is can you read and count to 10? if yes then you pretty much qualify for the job.
The note that her mother left to her saying: “I know we have differences but I will always love you.” Hurts all the more know she was murdered by her daughter not long after writing it to her.
All the more know? Wait what.. are you related to those morons doing this completely pointless interrogation? 🤦
Absolutely heart breaking😢 she never gave up on her and never would she was a real mother that love her child nomatter how difficult it got.
The mother is a liar and you have no idea what abuse that young girl went through
@@nuggetlover9431 evidence?
@@Itachixgthat’s ‘Samantha’s’ account 😂
hearing the detectives ask "do we look stupid?" is so funny considering how stupid they look during this interrogation.
Fr 😭
This interrogation sounds like grade school age children arguing with each other. The detectives were pulled down to her level and stayed there. Unbelievable!
No they weren’t wtf….they simply refused to play her games. They had all the evidence they needed already. She was identified by her father-she was caught with the knife used to kill her own mother. You stupid fucks act like you are smarter then the detectives when you aren’t. Just because they didn’t play mind games with a psychopath
So true.
I'd say they went a few levels below her. Sometimes she actually makes more sense than them.
When the super fragile interrogator said, “IS, TOO!” I just bursted out into laughter. A butthurt school girl is exactly right LOL. Also, he’s a shining example of a wife and child beater. I have absolutely ZERO doubt that he’s put his hand on women in anger at least once in his life, but I’d bet several.
For reference, the fragile “is, too!” school girl moment I’m referring to happens when he throws the pen at 56:48
I cannot see a single possibility that these interrogators have ever in their entire lives gotten a confession with whatever method they’re using, especially the lead, calling her an idiot and asking how stupid she is was insane.
They'll normally only do this when they don't actually need a confession
It seems like they want to get over it fast without doing the hard work.
Needing a confession or not, it’s still completely unprofessional. I wouldn’t even consider the lead investigator in being a street cop. Seems very power hungry.
Although I don't agree with the things they said and their methods, during that part I think they were just trying to make her brain understand that those shows are no proof of anything that she might think could apply to her. As you've seen, she put her palms up that meant lack of confidence and started to question herself about how true those TV shows are, by saying: "So, what do you mean?", "I thought it was real.", "Has to be real.". Because of it, that theory of hers died pretty quickly, otherwise they would be another hour with her speaking about true crime "facts" she saw on the TV show. So, that part wasn't all that bad. Asking if someone is stupid is not affirming it. Even if the suggestion is still offensive, it also makes people question themselves if they are actually being stupid. But calling her "idiot" or saying she has "a stupid look on her face that makes him sick", those were affirmations and it was a very poor judgement on his part. After that, was when I think things escalated too much due to their personal feelings. The throwing his arms in the air and the approaching of the police officer to intimidate her for some seconds, the yelling and cussing, the incriminating pointing, the hitting of the finger on the desk, the back and forth of "yes" and "no" without anything constructive added to convince her otherwise, the throwing the pen... That became quite abusive really fast. Very unprofessional!
He could be mad about her callousness
Watching the cops and Isabella go back and forth with stupid banter is actually embarrassing. “You’re evil”
“No I’m not”
“Yes you are”
“No I’m not”.
“Yes you are” …. OMG 🙄
I wonder what this particular interrogation method is called?
"Two 8 year olds arguing" is the technical name, I think.
It's called the "not being a good interrogater" technique 😂
Ahh yes the grade 2 playground technique. 50 percent of the time it works everytime.
Made me sick
Two toddlers going back and forth is what they are 🤦🏻♀️
In all honesty, I'm shocked two detectives managed to irritate me way more than a literal murderer.
That was some great use of the Reid technique
by her when she tells the cop "You seem like a nice guy. I'm not mad at you for confusing my identity. Everyone makes mistakes.", thereby building rapport and minimizing his guilt.
Don't judge me by calling me nice! 😡
The dumb technique
This really is the worst interrogation I’ve ever seen. Worst use of the Reid technique I’ve ever seen, if you can even call it that.
😂 yes, she executed it flawlessly, it really put him at ease
@@myseville1976coming from someone who has never been through the training. 😂
Isabella: I'm not evil.
Detective: Yeah, you are.
Isabella: Nuh uh.
Detective: Yuh huh.
Wow. This is a real battle of wits here. Like a psychological chess match.
😂😂 Exactly
😂
-Stop calling me Isabella.
-It is your name!
-It is not.
-It is too!!
-No, it's not.
56:40 when that detective yelled "It is too" Like holy shit, like a petulant child. High level interrogation. Like L vs Light Yagami
Lmao, a real chess match honestly
Intellectuals!
The sheer amount of control this girl has had over the room is shocking. She literlly interrogated better then the cops.
than
In what way, did she control the room, and interrogate the police? All she did was to constantly deny, the indisputable evidence, against her, and ask for a DNA test!
Fr woah.
literally@@gracelovesme-r3j
@@gracelovesme-r3jDid you not watch the same video? She managed to make them spend an hour talking about her identity than the actual crime. They even went as far as to bring her dad in to identify her. She is steering the whole conversation
Story time...
I had a relative come down with schizophrenia when she was in her late 20s. Gave me a whole different perspective on this stuff. I used to think that if I heard voices that I'd understand those voices can't be real and go to a doctor. And I didn't understand why people just didn't ignore the voices. But with schizophrenia it's not only voices, it's that the brain constructs a different reality and the belief comes first and the brain creates the voices and feelings and logic to support it. For example my relative believed she had the power to predict what people on TV would say next and offered to demonstrate it for us. We agreed and she started quickly repeating things they said and mumble other words. After her demonstration (which clearly failed) she felt she had proven it to us and that the TV anchors were following her words, that she could control what they and other people say. She said we had the power too but didn't realize it. My parent kept telling her to stop pretending and that it didn't make sense, but my relative kept repeating that it was real. We thought she was on drugs and it was only after she got arrested that they suggested it's psychological issues.
Long story short, the relative eventually got the help she needed and has been medicated and back in reality ever since.
What is strange is the person can seem functional but they're living in a different reality and this is why it can be frustrating to communicate with them. What doesn't make sense to us can make perfect sense to them. It's a delusion and they can't escape from it because to them it is real.
To me the scariest part of the experience was seeing how someone can lose control of who they are so easily. We think we are rational beings but if a disease can hijack our reality so easily then maybe we're not as in control as we think we are.
thanks for sharing 🙏
It’s actually demons 😢my mom has been paranoid schizophrenic almost 50 years I wish I could get her to pray and keep praying
I cannot BELIEVE that their supervisors allowed this dumpster fire of an interrogation to go on this long without calling in detectives that have more maturity and professionalism than a 12 year old. How embarrassing for the entire department!
I think that's what should have happened. Tell the guys to step out and Take 5.
Find somebody whose experienced with this. And say they've got a difficult suspect to work with.
Absolutely!!!
Thanks mr. UA-cam investigator. I am sure You have years of experience in investigative methods and could have cracked this case in 2 mins😂
@@afrya3307 It’s not to say any of us could have done a better investigation, it’s knowing that as soon as they allowed their emotions to control them, they lost all control of that interrogation. The same can be said for any confrontation in general. As soon as we allow our emotions to take the driver seat, we are giving the other party control over the whole interaction whether we realize it or not. (The other party could be children, spouses, coworkers, neighbors, keyboard warriors, suspected murderers, etc…) These investigators were very emotionally charged, easily offended, and deduced themselves to hurling insults and objects. That behavior is not acceptable of any professional person, especially a person of authority.
@@kristinahernandez564 but the thing is, they were not emotionally charged...sure they would have felt disgusted with her crime, but they could have easily supressed their emotions. See, this video only talks about the Reid technique in interrogation (a technique which has been critized a lot recently) but there are other techniques which involve interrogators displaying emotion... we see such techniques used in the gribble and spader interrogation and also a bit in the stephen McDaniel interrogation.
it would have been interesting to see a real interrogator try to get a confession from her, she definitely seemed like she was in control the entire time.
It would have been even more fascinating to watch, I agree. I watch from with a psychological interest.
It's an odd thing when the perpetrator is the smartest one in the room.
No offense.
She is very controlled and extremely calm. These idiots r playing her game instead of getting to the root of it!!! If someone really wasn't guilty there'd b going off.... wouldn't you?
They had no choice. You aren't allowed to call out "mental illness" anymore
@@redneckreviews3016that doesn’t have anything to do with this. it seemed like empathy would have been a better approach as she shut down with them constantly insulting her
These detectives missed quite a few opportunities to get anywhere with her. I can't imagine why calling her an evil stupid liar didn't work 🧐
Great point!!❤
so true. almost every interrogation ive watched, the moment they finally call them an evil stupid liar the confession comes pouring out. so weird how it didnt this time ;)
Because they had all the evidence they needed, sick individuals like this would continue to lie no matter what
Stay pretty sweetie.
Yeah they missed some boneheaded opportunities. The biggest one was the boyfriend. At about 29:00 she claimed that her boyfriend had ditched his phone but at around 40:00 she claims that she asked the Asian lady to use her phone to call her BF. Why didn't they call her bluff on that.
“My God won’t forgive you” that arrogance and delusion by that cop is real.
I’m glad someone else pointed this out. This irked me so badly
She’s literally using the police interrogation tactics on them, between shutting anything about her real identity down immediately and then minimizing and telling them it’s okay they made a mistake by falsely accusing her 😂 She’s better at their job then they are
This for sure. I would imagine the most effective approach would be to play into her delusion, act like they're on her side, and use the fact she literally gave permission to take her fingerprints and also ask for her DNA.
No she’s just refusing to cooperate no matter what and the detectives already know they have no chance of changing that so chose not to play along with her derangement
Hire her as a trainer.
All they had to do was talk and ask questions to her alter ego and play along and go from there. And catch her in a web of lies that they use to dismantle her at the end. Beginner level shit.
They didn’t need any more information from her, they wanted to understand her motives. They weren’t trying to break the case here.
I worked as a mental health provider in the prison system. We had one inmate that fully believed he and the guilty person had “swapped” bodies and he was an innocent person being held in prison while the guilty person was free, living in his body. He also understood that he had to stay in prison because he was inhabiting the body of the guilty person. Really interesting guy.
This would make a good movie
What do you think about the body swapping theory?
dragonball Z 😂
The means the convict is in complete self denial, and his sub consciousness could not come to terms with the truth.
He had demons in him
The shade thrown by the narrator about the officers rank and age was god level 🤣
It wasn't shade it was facts.
It makes the shade more shady ☂️ when it’s facts. 😂
😅😅😅 right
Time stamp?
@@billiejostout9341:03:55
Take a drink every time she says she's not Isabella.
The conversation between the cops and Isabella is like listening to a group of 13 year olds squabbling. How the hell did they get to interrogate a goldfish, let alone an alleged killer?
“I’m not isabella” “YOU ARE TOO” crazy
hey that's mean...lol
a goldfish LMAO
It's probably because they already have solid evidence and a witness.
@@dharmallarsIt's definitely her true name is Samantha, bec she was just adopted?
Detectives need to be shown this video to be educated on what NOT to do in ANY interrogation, whether the suspect is mentally ill or not.
I know the detectives watching this vid mad af getting shit on by a huge channel and millions in the comments 😂
Convicted
It's difficult when you lack the training or intelligence to conduct an effective interrogation. Perhaps they're doing their best, life is hard when you lack a certain level of intelligence.
@b00g3rs21 the US spends ~ $11 billion on funding the police and due to these detectives I can tell not a cent is going to proper training 😅
But they have most excellent police cars to pit u with, full of the most advanced tech. At least they found her hiding I guess that’s one thing
Her seeing a picture of herself and saying “she’s pretty” killed me LOL
Yes. Got that.
Shows thats her lmao i mean she is still doing drama still couldn't stop herself from calling her own picture preety lmao
And the police said “yeah you’re a pretty girl”
Narcissism at its highest
Especially because she's not pretty.
The detectives heard “forensic files” and lost it 😭😭😂😂😂
"We're done being pleasant" they were never pleasant the whole time 😭
Yeah that was literally a threat…
@@akaihidan4371 no it wasn't.....
"no more mr nice cop"
One thing I have learned from these videos is a smile, some comfort, and sympathy (all false, of course) gets a murderer to confess WAAAAAAY faster than yelling and being confrontational.
shes a gemini after all.
They don't need a confession in this case... this is just fun and games for them.
They had all evidences they needed to put her in prison for life, so they didn't take bullshit from her.
In this case it wouldn't even work proper interrogation, cause she was crazy and believed what she said. 😗
Exactly. Inflate their ego, get them talking and wait for the slip up
Get them to brag, a lot of these crazies want to brag about it.
The fact detective was going through her bags with his bare hands not wearing gloves is just a cherry on top of this disastrous interrogation 🤦🏼♀️😅
Did they ask her for an ID a single time!? I don't think so
Who tf cares? That’s really important to you? Only a weirdo would even notice that..
Yeah it is like drama looks fake
@@Infotainment-cb6cywhat does that have to do with anything they said her name 5 times atleast I’d for what are u delusional
@@MachiavellianSoldierOnly a weirdo would believe not asking for the ID was a good interrogation technique!
The way I am more upset with these "detectives" than I am with her is insane. How is a schizophrenic teenager better at keeping her temper and emotions under control than "trained professionals" that are grown men? And the fact they threw a pen at her? This interrogation should have been thrown out because of the amount of verbal abuse and mistreatment of her. I'm not condoning what she's done by any means, but these "detectives" should have handled this so much better.
You people are a trip. This girl is in no way mentally ill. She is just a narcissist liar. They have all the evidence they need. They were just frustrated, as anyone would be listening to someone lie so blatantly and stupidly.
@Roosters-rants1977 if they had all the evidence they needed then they didn't need to go thru any of that horribly managed interview/ interrogation process. 😂
The narrator is literally meaner to the interrogators than to Isabella. "For someone that old to not have risen above that rank speaks volumes" GOD DAMN THAT STINGS
This narrator is quite the hypocrite! He trashes the Officers nonstop, speaking about how they should not insult her or let their personal opinions come through their treatment of that garbage.
The narrator does not seem to have a SINGLE negative remark to voice about the vile disgusting heinous garbage piece of TRASH that MURDERED an innocent woman!
I hardly managed to get through this heinous video because of the narrator. I will absolutely not be watching anymore of this channel's videos because of this deplorable narrator that is so bad at his job.
He was said it silently speaks volumes and I was immediately like damn! Okay EWU
I’m glad he pointed that out. Their horrible interrogation “techniques” made it harder on them than it did her.
🤣🤣🤣
This has to be the worst interrogation I have ever seen. These detectives need to be demoted or fired. That is brutal.
And she needs the electric chair. Mountains to mole hills bud
Complete waste of time! They stooped to her age level by bantering back and forth..."nah-uh...yeah-huh..."
They had a slam dunk case. The father witnessed her in the bathroom with the victim. It was already over.
They were annoyed and impatient but this wasn't a case of having to get a confession.... they had her dead to rights, a confession would have just made it easier.
They were annoyed.... it was unprofessional but who really cares. She was done at this point.
for what? Questioning a murderer?
You don’t just fire or demote someone for a poor interrogation… you train them to be better..
I’d like to thank these detectives for demonstrating to all other interrogators what NOT to do during an interrogation.
So focus on the detectives instead of the person who did the horrendous crime.....
It’s a teaching moment really. For years this footage will be shown to newbies. How embarrassing for these cops
@@afrya3307you can care about both things. What a concept.
@@DMaria216 well, no because the poster only mentioned the detectives right? She never mentioned the crime. What a concept.
Imagine how they treated people on the street
Imagine sitting there arguing with someone with schizophrenia like you’re going to bully them into saying what you want. These guys were just awful.
Dated a woman with schizophrenia
They can still be manipulative pos
Cops did their jobs
They also have....humanity
But yeah
Imagine thinking Isabella actually has schizophrenia. The act is so obvious.
@@danagirouard4267 Agreed! Sadly, it seems like you and I are in the minority.
The psychiatrist she went to that allegedly said “she is just a typical girl” is also horrible at their job. What the hell is wrong with people in that state?
I was thinking maybe Isabella was just lying to the psychiatrist.
She went to the psychiatrist 3 years before this. Schizophrenia can be hard to detect at first, if at all. 3 years is a long time for more symptoms to come to the forefront
psychotherapy was quite literally invented to pathologize people and make them more mentally unstable; Freud said so himself. There is no such thing as a good psychiatrist; this one was 'good' inasmuch as they did their job making her crazy.
Well, I mean...a regular girl with a touch extra. 😂
@@virtualmartinifreud was likely a pervert and a charlatan, cherry picking his data to support his theories, theories that could neither be proved or disproved. His ego, his concept of the Oedipus complex, his theory of sex being such a huge part of peoples minds (conscious and subconscious), his theory development stops at adolescence etc. I think he done much too much projecting and theorizing so much so that people ought to have investigated him for atleast sex crimes but I was a different time I guess.
I love that you put subtitles on everything that is said, even the narrator. This makes it a lot easier to follow. Not only is the contents interesting, but the production is very good. Keep up the good work!
Yes, I'm hearing disabled and I love it.
11:44
@impressiveemu1259I'm the same way but I love having the subtitles, I also have the subtitles on my t.v. 24/7, my son took the habit from me also. But I find myself staring at the subtitles and if I turn them off then it feels really weird. Even though I can hear fine, just habit I guess! Lol
Totally agree! Sometimes it’s hard to hear interviews clearly and the captions are very helpful! Thank you
Underrated comment ❤
I’m absolutely baffled at how terrible these interrogators are at their job. All they had to do was play into Isabella’s delusions just a little bit to probe her for info and see the headspace she was in at that moment, but instead they resort to personal insults right off the bat as if dehumanizing her will get her to give them information immediately. So unprofessional, these guys need to be retrained or fired.
Well spoken
Yeah I was really expecting something above "you're mean and don't have friends lol"
Literally just ask for Samantha's info
@whatthe3131 they dont need to be psychiatrists to be good at their job. this job absolutely required manipulating the situation to gain information, and that definitely involves enabling the suspects antics as well as dancing around certain topics and being selective of their language. this channel has shown me the difference between a great insightful and effective interrogation compared to an interrogation that was ill-performed. these men require better training or to otherwise be retrained before they perform any more interrogations. if you realize you are becoming emotional while interrogating someone you are letting your suspect get to you and that makes you a liability, its incredibly important to know when to leave the room to let someone else take over and these men not only did not do that, but they also did not correct eachother which is a huge problem.
@whatthe3131 just bully’s with no patience or understanding off the Reid technique or how to get simple confessions or they simply have terribly marriages or hate women mother issues or just racists there is certainly something deeper going on with this guy. Maybe he’s been taken of the streets & put on desk job for being sexist & he’s taking it out on her .
Maybe i have dark humor. But the ammount of denial and gaslighting Isabella does during the interrigation is really funny to watch 🤣🤣🤣 i wouldve lost my shit lmao
Guilty or not, those officers handled that interrogation horribly. They're lucky they didn't get sued.
They working for Amazon now
lucky the interrogation didn't get thrown out. no one is suing them over this. maybe that's why it was easy to be belligerent
Cops didn't need a confession. What scares me are the others who think she was delusional, while she is clearly lying. Cop know the situation better than all these doctors that already caused this death saying she was normal, and now will cause another one of they set he free.
It seems that they talk to the men softly but this is a young teenage girl and they are downright abusive, inexcusable.
@@crinul They should be because this is insanity. Straight abusive
That wasn't an interrogation, that was a verbal argument between a group of classmates in a middle school cafeteria
Damn, your middleschool is nothing like Mine! (JK of course😅)
When she’s like “I didn’t kill anybody..”
& He’s like “Yeah you did you killed your mom last night”
Definitely a middle school argument in the cafeteria 😂👏🏼👏🏼!
😅😅😅
Sounds like DID dissociative identity disorder
yeah after watching a lot of these, we could do a better interrogation, jeez
Applying an empathetic technique just requires an interrogator to be willing to walk in the suspect's shoes until that suspect trips on their own shoe laces. These guys tried to steamroll her and seemed genuinely insecure when she suggested they weren't doing their jobs right.
Being emphatic will open the door slowly
@@Anonymouss_99empathetic*
lol right, "YOU don't get to judge me!!!!!"
Also -- they weren't doing their jobs right. :)
Good comment. Thanks.
@@mountainheather49 they are supposed to be trained professionals. yes, what was said was aggravating but not to an extent to where these detectives should have let themselves get pulled down and stay there the entire time. i mean just watching the interview feels like watching grade school children fight.
She was so calm , I'm lowkey impressed
57:06
“WE HAVE BEEN SO PATIENT WITH YOU”
says the least patient interrogator ever
He was trying to convince himself harder than she was convincing herself she was Samantha.
@@winwinogaming 🤣💀
no way i just watched an entire interrogation of literally no progress 😭
Possession
Dude. Fr. Even if they despise the criminal, these guys look sooo fucking bad. THEY are grown ass men, holy shit lmao.
In the end they said she was not guilty because she had schizophrenia and was insane she was released in 2020 from Colorado Mental hospital and now she is living her life as a normal human being
@@tunisian_statsplease don’t spread misinformation my guy, she’s not been released yet.
But wait, there's a shocking revelation about to unfold. Keep watching. 😅
As a person who has worked on a locked psychiatric ward, it was amusing to watch these detectives battle the power of delusion. Confronting delusions often only intensifies them. A little bit of training in mental health disorders might’ve helped them recognize her psychosis and saved them the embarrassment.
“amusing” as someone who has been a patient rather than an employee, that’s sad.
as someone who is neither, I thought, during the whole investigation, that the investigators would crash out and get themselves in jail.
Yea it’s just ignorance of mental health and illness. The narrator made good comments of when the investigators asked good questions “have you ever seen a psychiatrist or been diagnosed” but they then quickly lost the wheel again to their emotions
@@honeyimhomewhoop Op is stating how incompetent the detectives are. You're getting randomly offended when this isn't even about you or any other "patient".
@ yes and stating how it’s amusing watching them be idiots to a mentally ill person. it seems you just can’t comprehend situations. go away lol
this video should be used for educational purposes for detective on how NOT to interrogate a suspect lol :P
We knew a woman who was diagnosed with schizophrenia when i was growing up. She once thought her kids were kids from our family and would constantly give us her stuff saying it was ours and we left it at her house. Schizophrenia is terrifying. She was like two totally separate people.
My brother suddenly went schizo at age 25, it's like his mind was replaced and he had completely different mannerisms. He talked different, he walked different, it was like he was a complete stranger. It's the strangest damn thing I've ever experienced ~ by far.
My uncle has schizophrenia and he’s on pills but sweeties person you will ever meet
Yep. None of which matches this girl's behavior. This is classic dark-triad narcissism. Gaslighting, threats of violence, actually becoming homicidally violent, superiority complex, utterly convinced she's smarter than them(she probably was), and never ever going to release herself from her own delusional fantasy.
Yes. My aunt is schizophrenic and she accused my mom of kidnapping her kids whom are adults and she confused my kids with being hers. It’s really sad
I dont have schizophrenia guys im fine
I know lots of true crime channels claim they have "never before seen footage/information"... but this channel is the only one that I actually believe every time. I've seen this story covered many times, and this is the first time I have ever seen this interrogation! Well done EWU - one of the best true crime channels to exist :)
Just a little too much narration every 2 seconds though... other than that awesome
@@ammo_van_ravenI love the frequent narration
@@mamabear52 And he's a great narrator at that.
@@ammo_van_raventhe narration is good for those of us who listens to it like a podcast, that way we don’t need the visual all the time.
(And it’s probably good for visually impaired people as well)
@@ammo_van_ravenI agree. It makes the video last wayyyyyyy longer then needed
I had a narcissist girlfriend once, really odd behaviour, behaviour I’d never seen before. Even if you had the evidence in front of her she’d still deny it, you either went crazy or you actually start to believe her and at one point I actually nearly started to believe her until I snapped out of it and realised/realized what was happening. This lady reminds me of her.
i’m glad out got out dude.
I was thinking the same thing . I had a narc bf and the gaslighting almost broke me
Me too
Damn sounds horrible
She reminds me of my girl now
the pen throw and “it is too!” 😭 i’ve had kids at work who are able to control their emotions better than that guy
Them calling her ugly, stupid and all that was so unnecessary and didnt get them anywhere
This made me laugh too because she is actually very pretty and it came off like it became personal to them instead of professional!!
They did also call her pretty at one point.
@@Debateyourright She is NOT pretty lol stop lying
@@SimooGamesyeah she is
@@SimooGames There's no shame in admitting that she's pretty, because her being a murderer is a completely different thing. We're not saying she's a pretty murderer. She's pretty, it's obvious to the objective eye
You know an interrogation is bad when you’re more angry with the cops than the killer 😭
Yooo.. I forgot all about the crime😅 these cops are driving me mad! This is a prime example of why bad cop/bad cop doesn't work
Im more angry with the girl than anyone else lol, I wouldn’t be an amazing detective, especially with that shitty woman I’d lose my mind lmao
Ong making me believe her cause they’re doing so damn bad
Tbh, if somebody put that kid in her place she would've been disciplined to not do what she did. Go work in juvie, I'm telling you once some hit 18, the whole baby talk bad guys thing is what makes them self victimize themselves. No abuse, discipline that's different lol ppl get yelled at more in the military.
Nothings more annoying than a liar.
It’s genuinely baffling how incompetent these “detectives” are as interrogators.
Edit: Be advised, the replies to this comment are an absolute sh*tshow.
They took psy 101 at the local community college. They qualified now
Ready to apply? How much blood do you think they’ve seen in that bathroom? Do you think the mom was even recognizable??
Can you handle any of that?
And now you get to the killer and she claims she’s not Isabella…
@@afsoon542 .....yeah that's their job. They did apply. If there is no distinction between a random commenter's capacity to effectively interrogate and suspect and a trained detective's, then there is zero point to the training or to the profession in its entirety. And based on the comments it seems like the average joe can understand they didn't perform their duties.
@@afsoon542 If you can't handle it then dont be an investigator. Simple.
It’s ridiculous that the comment section is so void of common sense and free thinking. This psychopath just tricked her way out of a murder conviction and all the people in the comments can focus on is the detectives. Why? Because you all have a sickening need to feel acceptance from complete strangers so you comment on whatever everyone else is commenting on. No individuality whatsoever. Absolutely pathetic. Grow up.
the way he yeeted the pen XD its giving "a really good man trying to pretend to be aggressive."
The thing is that a botched interrogation can easily lead to a bad guy getting away with a crime. I truly was embarrassed for these guys. It tells me that there's a lack of training which means supervisors have not done their job. What a mess.
Oh yea that interrogation was awful
it seems like theyre part of a good ol boy department
@@TalkingWithTiff Yeah 100%, it was so cringeworthy watching it, even made me laugh a few times how bad they were and her responses. They got themselves so emotionally attached from the get go that they gave her so many opportunities and openings to refute what they were saying and to gain a little control over the narrative. "Shoddy, shoddy workmanship" to quote a line out of Father Ted🫣🤣
Armchair folks are funny, everyone thinks they are an expert. Have you watched a bunch of 48 hours so now you are the greatest??
@@bobbybanks77I agree what your saying how most these people are cringe but they’re mostly just repeating what video said
It’s amazing how her schizophrenia went unnoticed for so long… and when she “acted out” she was sent to live with her dad and vice versa.
She was sent to her dad at the age of 3 ? A 3 year old dont have scizophrenia. Research
@@irenestrmnss4496 schizophrenia is a neurological disorder with strong genetic ties, just because it's latent at that age doesn't mean it's absent; also she wasn't three at that age. she was three when her parents divorced; not when she was sent to live with her dad due to her difficult behavior
@@irenestrmnss4496they could. They just aren't diagnosed with it. Same with an 11 year old. They can have it, they just can't be formally diagnosed.
@@irenestrmnss4496she was sent to live with her father at age seven for behavioral issues and then later moved back to live with her Mom. I do wonder how her parents missed the signs of her schizophrenia though. And while it is uncommon for a person under the age of 12 or over the age of 40 to be diagnosed with schizophrenia, it does happen occasionally. My friend’s sister displayed bizarre behaviors from childhood but wasn’t diagnosed as being schizophrenic until her late teens.
you americans use the words schizo/bi-polar/depression too much, most of the time theyre just a bunch of crybabies.
it was embarrassing watching how horrible these detectives were at interrogating her. just bullying her and expecting confessions.
agree! it seems that this tactic has worked in the past so it was their modis operandi; not working on her, they didn't know what else to do
they will arrest her even without a confession
Shut up.. she killed her own mother and u are saying how horrible the detective's are being and bullying her.. r u fucking kidding? She is a murderer !!
@@napolimerda726 she was identified as the killer so yea?
Edit: the OP Said SHE should be Set free BC the Police didnt know she was the Killer/didnt confes to the crime
Even tho WE know IT was her
She just killed her mother. Hell is wrong with you. Your the reason we have entitled teens running lose. Oh, we mustn’t say anything bad, they will get upset.
this channel is fantastically produced, I have learnt so much watching them that I now find it fairly easy to realise & notice the huge mistakes and opportunities missed by these poor detectives thank you for such an interesting episode
Saying “my god won’t forgive you but maybe yours will” was SO insanely unprofessional. How the hell are they still employed after this
This is what u call work but free money
As stated in the video this was a undiagnosed schizophrenic with no mental illness history, name the last time you had to interrogate that then talk
It's good they said what they said. They don't have time to pet this psycho.
@@lettiegrant9447their job is to get answers out of the suspect, and nothing they did follows standard procedures. They did everything so unprofessionally, and it’s upsetting. Personally attacking and antagonizing her is completely unacceptable.
Maybe he is jewish. The christian god forgive to murderers so the cop can't be christian.
It’s crazy how cops can handle an open an shut case like this so poorly. They left themselves wide open to all kinds of scrutiny in court by not following procedure. This is embarrassing to watch.
She's trying to get out as we speak or has
Aurora CO police are known to be ignorant failures each and every one, time and time again.
Shut up 😂😂. You know nothing about what they do or what could have happened 🥴😂
Because the cops have less education
No they did not they had more than enough evidence and were simply trying to get a motive.... what they did was similar to the gribble and spader interrogators....people just parroting what this silly narrator is saying
The detectives treated this like a slam-dunk conviction before the interrogation even began. They were too impatient, perhaps emotionally-driven to allow her to incriminate herself. This is a dumpster fire of a hot mess.
Well it was a slam dunk case....they had so much evidence.... if the girl did not fool the ONE shrink who wrote the mental health report to the judge and prosecutor she would be in prison for life...these detectives did not do anything really wrong, people are just parroting what this silly narrator is saying Who most likely has limited knowledge on police interrogations
Considering the circumstances, there is an argument to be made that it was a slam dunk.
@@YokaiX Wouldn't that suggest you proceed with extra caution to ensure success in regards to meticulously gathering all the evidence required following the proper procedure to guarantee a conviction through evidence and proof beyond a reasonable doubt instead of being reckless and fumbling multiple times?
This is DEMONIC. They are not facing a human, thry are facing a demon posessed child. This is what they do. Demon posession seems confusing. Most people WANT to believe that this isn't real, its only "in the movies". It's a demon, or MANY in her.
It's why they're seemingly talking to more than one person......THEY ARE. It's demon posession.
exactly. very emotionally driven. it seems like they didnt even prepare. too cocky
"it's a funny game you're playing, but nobody's laughing" 😂 im actually ctfu, that was good
When the narrator basically said forensic files trained HER at interrogation better than a police department.. 😂😂😂 this is EWU gold!
😂😂😂
💀💀💀
it's sort of sad that this is the shady side of infotainment...
SHE didn't make the detectives snap. They were shitty detectives, and should have been removed from the room the second they started yelling at her. This is brutally difficult to watch these two grown men, presumably trained, be bested by a young girl simply because they couldn't get it together long enough to just wait for her to start talking, no matter what it was about, and then respond accordingly with the information given.
Right? I thought the same thing…they didn’t let her talk at all and when they did they acted annoyed. Who wants to talk to someone who acts like that? This interrogation made me mad
By a diagnosed schizophrenic at that.
Bested? The fuck, the girl is a nut case period, lock her up for life
She would have bested you too, because no technique would have cracked her. I've watched way too many interviews and she displays zero fear, and without that you have no leverage. They could have summoned God himself to the room to ID her and she still would deny it. And if finally she decides to drop that lie for a new one she would cling to it just as stubbornly. You could be in there 100 hours with her and get almost nowhere, and she would be winking at you across the table the whole time. You know she's lying, she knows you know, and she's having a blast forcing you to engage with her. She's having a grand old time.
@@shawnkilpatrick4839we'll never know because these buffoons didn't apply any reasonable strategy at all. She may have opened up if they built the report enough to catch her in a few undeniable falsehoods, but they didn't execute the proven methods.
This is the... 3rd? Yeah, 3rd worst interrogation I've ever seen. Topped only by the one where the dude had bullet holes in his face while being accused of murder and the one where a guy had swallowed a bunch of drugs and was left to die in an interrogation room.
So I guess these guys just barely avoid being the worst detectives on the internet.
Yeah that case broke my heart. The guy that was interrogated when he was the victim and then ended up dying from his injuries. I think that was my number one. Worst interrogation ever seen.
You have a link to your #1 and #2?
@@TheDaveBloom Im not familiar with the second, but the first is Ryan Waller, EWUs video on it is ?v=_c_lmx4LdNw
@@anthonyrusso6696 This is why you don't say "he's a murder, **** him" instead of providing proper medical care. Police know that bullet wounds can be hard to find, its in their training for first aid in the field. If you can't stomach caring for someone in custody because you think they're bad then find a new line of work.
Wallers death was at minimum negligent homicide.
@@anthonyrusso6696 He was visibly injured and in need of actual medical care. Even if it wasn't a gunshot he had visible damage to the face and was barely stringing sentences together. Even if the cops were right he could have sustained a head wound tripping or something like that (it's not important to my point). A paramedic isnt a doctor, had a doctor missed it and said "nothing is going on" we'd be in a different situation.
Had the police not concluded his guilt I am confident he would have been treated very differently. So yes, I do think they had the mentality of "he's guilty so F him." Not "F him" as in let him die, but certainly don't take him seriously and let him see a doctor after he comes clean.
They gonna show the picture of her step dad hugging her like the detective choking her😂😂😂
When I worked as an interpreter, one of the first things we were taught was to not let our emotions get involved when working an interview or interrogation, especially when the situation involved a court case or immigration. Handling an interview incorrectly could throw everything out the window, and if the person being interogated or interviewed has a very good lawyer, they can walk free. These interrogators made so many mistakes from the beginning
Emitions😂
@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3ah yes, emitional actions
@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3😂 wooops! Lol thanks
Are you one of those interpreters that do the funny dance while people are talking? I love that.
@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3feel better about yourself now that you got the grammar Nazi thing out of your system..? 😂
Did you know what is more scarier than what this girl did to her mother? The fact that she could have walked free because of how bad the police interrogation was. I do hope these gentlemen have learned from this situation.
You KNOW they didn't smh 🙄 probably got a promotion
how? they had concrete evidence against her. the purpose of the interrogation was to get a confession
The interrogation was a formality by all accounts. The case was air tight due to: Physical evidence found on scene, DNA testing, and an eye witness to the incident. The only way it could get more concrete would've been if they'd had a magic camera that caught it all on film. The only way she'd theoretically walk away free would be an insanity plea, which if that did occur then nothing these investigators could've done, regardless of how perfect they were, would've changed that. That relies on psychologists.
Instead we should see this as a lucky opportunity that we managed to catch their mistakes on a throw away case instead of finding all this out much later on an investigation that would've actually relied on their skills. Now we have the ability to replace them or retrain them with minimal damage done.
not true just because an officer loses their cool doesnt mean tht the suspect gets a free pass
I really do think she was suffering from undiagnosed mental illness. What she texted her friends days before what she did to her mother is bizarre. The fact she called her mother some other name is also a red flag. She was not a sane person and the psychiatrist her family went to go see really fucked up by saying theres nothing wrong with her.
She made a huge mistake right around 40 minutes. She told the officers that she went to the h Mart and ask the lady to use the phone because she's trying to get ahold of her boyfriend.
But then told the police after she said that, that her boyfriend doesn't have a phone.
She also said that two or three other times before that as well.
And no one caught it, not even the person making the video.
I caught that too!
Me too! Was surprised Raven didn’t mention it
Funny. I caught that too and was waiting for one of the detectives to say something.
Thats what I thought, and she easily avoided ever answering if she even knew her boyfriends number or what it was so they couldn't call him. They just kept talking over her answers instead if letting her dig deeperlies and then finding inconsistencies.
I think he was more focused on the horrible interrogation LOL
The interrogators acted more like children than Isabella did.
- Stop calling me Isabella!
- That's your name!
- No, it isn't.
(throws pen)
- It is too!
Hilarious part😁
😂😂😂😂😂
Its like kids having an argument
😂😂😂
It's like looney tunes skit
My 10 year old has more maturity than these guys
Damn, this might be the worst interrogation I've seen so far. They just seem to be outraged and lashing out at her for emotional satisfaction, which is teenager behaviour, not interrogator behaviour.
These guys are right up there with the two morons who interrogated Sarah Boone. They’re SO bad that I wonder if they’re just going thru the motions because they have SO much evidence that the confession is really not necessary. Or so I hope that’s why they’re this bad at their jobs!
the second cop being personaly insulting all the time. it feels savage when you realise he dont stop the mean comments😂🏆
AGREE! I hope these two men are no longer interrogating and get hours more training. Talk about dense as a stump
Yeah normal teenage behavior like stabbing your mom to death then pretending you are a different person.
To be fair, that murder scene looked like something straight out of a horror movie. I can understand why they would be repulsed by this "thing".
Isabella got further into the Reid Technique than the detectives. 🤣 5 more minutes alone and the corporal would've confessed to the murder
@@mpantony9684 it was proven after she ran out the door and her step father saw her
@@mpantony9684 it is hard to tell nowadays lol and I agree these investigators are terrible. After she went to the mental institution 2 months later she asked to be released so I would put my money on her knowing that she is isabella
😂😂😂xxx
😂 hard not to laugh... Keep your comment on "you laugh you loose" competition
This is so disgusting to see that they don’t know how to interrogate.
Her response to the detectives showing pictures of herself Isabella: “she’s pretty” . Like no you did not just give yourself a compliment I definitely chuckled at that 🤦🏾♀️
She ain't wrong 😈
@@traciharrisnahhhhhhh🤣
She’s mid af, if even that
@@traciharriscornball
@@belachaney never tried one 😶
the fact the incompetent cops didnt realize they were dealing with a schizophrenic suspect is mind boggling. they were so busy trying to be "tough guys" that they missed so many opportunities to get deep into this girl's head.
So the Police missed opportunities to get inside a diagnosed schizaphrenics head?!?! How odd. I wonder how the Police, who obviously aren't psychiatrists, missed that???
they are not educated and live in a time when mental disorder was either not real or not talked about. Fortunately in this case she got institutionalized and not sent to prison.
@@JK-xt7ro very much so
Why do you all call cold blooded murderers schizophrenic, that's how murderers escape Justice
Live in a time where mental illness is not known?!! Come on… this video was from 4 days ago! Listening to her I knew she was schizophrenic… I diagnosed my cousin with schizophrenia and I’m not even a doctor. Detectives are clueless of mental illness! This was so unprofessional on so many levels. The fact that it continued as long as it did and no higher ups through him out from his behavior shows that whole facility is BAD and needs to get knocked down and rebuilt again. She could have also had multiple personality disorder too! Not saying what she did was right… by no means. I’m just saying she is not in her right mind and they should have known it was a mental issue. The dad too as well as the mother…
Calling her an idiot and stupid over and over in an aggressive and confrontational tone is really gonna get you to open up. 🤦🏼♀️
What a couple of highly trained professionals we've got here.
@@timeforsleep-wz3wmI honestly feel like I could have done a better job....and I'm 100% not qualified lol
Abusive they were
She's skitzo and believes her own BS, there is no "opening up" ever going to happen.
That's how most interrogations go. They aren't friendly and rational processes.
She really trying to say shes the doppelganger of Isabella and they got the wrong person 😂😂😂
Instead of using the interrogation to gather information the investigator used it as a power struggle. "I'll be DAMNED if I let her boss ME around". I'm not trying to downplay how horrendous what she did was but this guy strikes me as the type who, even if the person DIDN'T do it, he might STILL strongarm them into signing a confession under duress.
Exactly my thought. These guys aren’t the people of the job. I’ve seen many interviews like this… and this has to be the worst I’ve seen.
She says that at 19:48
Well said. Absolutely !!
Hundred percent I think the exact same man these guys are idiots.
I'm actually surprised they didn't get some EMT's into the interrogation room to overdose her with ketamine so as to cover up this abomination of an interview.
Crushed me the way her father walked in saying, "That's my baby." after he was asked to identify her. His voice was cracking and the way he went to her was just heartbreaking. He looked so broken at that point.
Creeped me out how her dad pawed her.
I think he expected her to hug him, cause really, you'd think she would be under duress/very scared to be in such a situation@@susanwansley7950
@@susanwansley7950 yes, it was creepy; gave me the chills.
I think he was trying to hug her.
@@susanwansley7950 I personally think he was in disbelief, shock, agony and a whole slew of emotions.
The police department picked those two guys up at a local 7-11 with the line „yo you guys interested in doing cop type stuff? Here’s your badge“ 😂
Lol.. fr
They told em “wanna take out your anger on a girl?”
Ha ha ha 😆😆😆
😭💀💀💀
Why did they not explain to her that genetic evidence will 100% catch her no matter how clever she thinks she is. It doesn't matter she's no blood related.
“Isabella got beat by a police dog and got a scar on her right arm” that made me lmao 😂😂
My wife is a retired police detective. She was appalled at these two police officers. They are not interrogators, just missing opportunities to understand the crime and the perpetrator.
Can your wife not please report or bring attention to these two clowns? They would be the reason why criminals walk free or why the police department gets sued or even why things would be thrown out on technicalities.
@@rose-mariewarburton6228 I'm not sure what your asking here. Are you asking the detective to report this so criminals will get off or wont get off due to bad interrogation skills?
You mean husband? Women can’t be detectives 😂😂
@@benballer617yes... yes they can.
@@benballer617 nice bait account
I wish the detectives did better, I’d like to hear her lies about the night rather than denying who she is the whole time
literally the left one needs to never interrogate again
Not buying your OF
@@someguywithnoplan6395 you’re very weird
@@someguywithnoplan6395 excuse you? What are you ....creep
@@someguywithnoplan6395 why did you bring OF up?
This little teenage girl outsmarted them both by throwing a curveball they didn't expect, and they never recovered. As soon as she said she wasn't Isabella, they should have left the room and come up with a game plan because the Whack-a-Mole technique was not working.
Yeah, like an immediate Dr. for a psychological evaluation for the next 50-72 hrs.
Whack-a-Mole Technique!!!! spot on!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂 They should give her a job interrogating suspected offenders. 😂
I mean, the interrogation is basically a formality. All the other evidence is irrefutable.
I watched this with my dad. He’s a retired police chief and pretty much said the same thing as you. Neither of us could help laughing at the “You made a mistake. It’s okay, I’m not mad at you” part though, lol.
These two cops are giving me secondhand embarrassment for their police department.
"I didn't kill my mom. Her name is Maria"
Cops missed the chance to offer to let her call her mom to come to the station to straighten it all out.
Feel like she woulda lied about that, she’s unavailable or whatever
What about any of this interview makes you think that she wouldn’t have lied…? She wouldn’t been like “my moms at work, my moms already dead, I don’t know my mom”
He definitely mentioned calling her mom when asking who she could contact in Ohio
He did ask.
These detectives/interrogators missed a lot of chances to catch her in her lies.
I worked with a detective like him. The anger and outburst makes him easy to manipulate . Im surprised we still have detectives using this technique.
This town is well known for having some of the dumbest and laziest cops around. Always been this way.
Exactly. There’s a reason they use the opposite technic. This was 2013 but they really fucked this whole case up and no wonder she got the insanity plea
It’s not a technique but rather who they are as people. It’s how they act in situations like this. They let their feelings take over.
@@Sheena7625 Must be Democrats.
@@buckeyedarren Stop. I voted for trump too alright. But this has nothing to do with politics
It really is nuts how these experienced cops let a little teenager get under their skin so easily
Quite ironic given they would have easier job if they were careful
They knew perfectly well of the impact their antagonistic interrogation would have on the outcome of the verdict. Little to none.
@@mgntstr Well she essentially got away with it because of the antagonistic attitude detectives gave.
Its similar to if Judge snaps it makes the court invalid and so the convict has to go thru retrial by different judge.
Its also entirely possible the court wasnt taking the detectives claim seriously when they were found on record to be overly antagonistic, which made her be "less guilty" and as result got away with it and was sentenced to mental facility instead of prison
For the record im no detective or someone studying law, i just after observing it looked that this case on the part of interrogation fallen apart so the prosecution had more difficult time convincing judge for harsher punishment
It's incredibly confusing dealing with someone like her. They could have been more patient but it reminds me of that case where the cop is interviewing that young guy who had been shot in the face and was saying all kinds of random shit that made no sense.... the cop just didn't believe what he was seeing because it's much more likely you're being lied to by another run of the mill criminal than it is you're dealing with a truly unique case.
"Perhaps Forensic files prepare people better for interrogation than some police departments.."
HELP-😂😂
A master class in how NOT to interrogate someone
Yep, going up against a master class in insolent teen.
@@plutonium9 she is so beautiful cute I think I love her
What would you have done based off your training and knowledge of past suspects behavior?
She killed her mother and you care more about how nice they were to a murderer. Pansy
If the evidence wasn’t so incriminating, this case may have been thrown out! These are the worst, most antagonistic, untrained Detectives I think I’ve ever seen! They should be taught a lesson on what Effective Detective Work Actually Looks Like!!!!
They should be made to watch videos on this channel.
Videos that show brilliant cops who know how to slowly, steadily bring a suspect towards the breaking point, where he finally confesses.
It's Aurora Colorado they're not known for competent law enforcement.
then why did you not work the case..?? do you even know how frustrated those officers might be on that situation....
They need to make her call her mother Maria, she would not have a phone number to call
@@ImranAli-qh6iz what a dumb thing to say. they shouldn't have this job if they let their emotions get the better of them, other more professional detectives could have actually gotten information from her.
I have been watching your channel for a while, and this has been the most difficult interrogation. These detectives came in too cocky thinking it was a slam dunk, they blew all the interrogation techniques i have seen laid out as standard protocol. When the interrogators lost it she was able to control the interview
It was a slam dunk. There was no question she did it, they just wanted the motive if possible. Her plea of insanity being accepted doesn't mean the prosecution didn't have enough evidence. It means the judge, the prosecutor, and medical professionals AGREED she was schizophrenic.
- literally. Rookie style! A lot of case interrogations are all about “entrapment” techniques and using lies to convince them they’re the culprit. Some innocent people are wrongfully convicted too because of interrogation pressure and wrongful admittance of the crime. I feel like she could have ended the interviews way earlier by just knowing her rights and not waiving them.
She is smart and crazy she know what she was doing. Her goal was to make them snap to beat her so the case would be tainted or a mistrial.
@@JJ-wk8zd yup, played them like a flute. Claimed mental and got out of prison.
It took an hour for them to shut up and listen to her. She is making up lies on the spot for her fabricated identity. She has an excuse for plot holes as they come and her doing this disproves her angle of an insanity plea because delusional people with a psychotic schizophrenic episode don’t do this. They are living a delusion not making one up as they go for what’s convenient for them.
It’s an hour of an 18 year olds fabricated delusion beating seasoned cops here. Crazy.
They also care more about being in control than eliciting evidence. The “art of war” shows that you can be in a huge advantage by pretending to be in a position of weakness and having your opponent think they are stronger. So for instance letting her think your believing her lies makes her make up stuff she thinks isn’t being cross examined. My god this is simple stuff, these cops must have been on the scene or something and impacted by what they saw
This is incredible to watch police act like 4 year olds arguing.
as someone born and raised in colorado, leave it up to Aurora PD to completely botch a serious interrogation all because THEY got frustrated with her.
This is the stuff of nightmares, very people people could handle doing what they do, and it's frustrating to see the detectives being attacked instead of the monster who murdered her mother.
I'd also like to know where/who diagnosed her with schizophrenia because I don't think that's her issue.
IMO she's lying and isn't delusional.
She's just your garden variety psychopath.
@@user-jo5ml8et1zlol wut?
Also, it's a fair critique of the detectives... Murderers have walked free because detectives mishandled cases.
@@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd true however this one was found with the weapon and there was a witness
Isn't that the city with the police chief and her child services girlfriend into blackmail and the like?
I've had encounters with Denver and Aurora police officers. Denver police were professional and Aurora police acted like wannabes. That was back in the late 80s, early 90s. Nothing changes I guess.
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I fell asleep and when I woke up the cops still didn’t make any progress with her 😂
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OMG!! Same
"Perhaps forensic files prepares people for interrogation better than some police departments...."
That was priceless! 😂
isabella : farts
narrator : because it has increased her anxiety
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She inhaled oxygen…. LIKE A SOCIOPATH WOULD!!!
isabella : I'm him
Interrogators : BALKAN RAGE + TROLLGE FACE + MANGO MANGO MANGO
Yeah, huge issue with this channel
It’s just the voice he went to school for that makes it sound like he’s not an idiot
lmaooo