Water Cooling is DEAD. Meet the THERMOSIPHON!

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @progenji6407
    @progenji6407 5 років тому +6704

    You don't have to worry about CPU temps if your cpu socket is no longer attached to your motherboard

    • @xeonic84
      @xeonic84 5 років тому +138

      Not sure how removing the cpu from the motherboard eliminates the need to cool the cpu. The cpu will still oveheat without a way to disperse the heat created under load. Removing the cpu from the motherboard would open up new ways of cooling though.

    • @progenji6407
      @progenji6407 5 років тому +20

      @Klaa2 yep

    • @xeonic84
      @xeonic84 5 років тому +79

      @@progenji6407 something go over my head?

    • @xeonic84
      @xeonic84 5 років тому +419

      @@progenji6407 Alright then, Well I'm just going to leave this here for ppl to laugh at. Agreed it's massive. Pretty sure the case wont close.

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 5 років тому +17

      Oh, snap!
      i'll see myself out...

  • @HotboiEngineering
    @HotboiEngineering 5 років тому +9358

    Linus I just finished my semester of thermodynamics and was trying to forget the pain and misery.

    • @dunkmaster1564
      @dunkmaster1564 5 років тому +442

      Ahh don't worry, you'll love thermo when you get into Heat Transfer c:

    • @matheuszanelladias
      @matheuszanelladias 5 років тому +291

      I just studied heat transfer in fins this semester. Had some PTSD watching this video

    • @LiberatedWaveMan
      @LiberatedWaveMan 5 років тому +75

      my brother is in college for engineering, maybe you two can smash this thing to pieces

    • @deadfrontier815220
      @deadfrontier815220 5 років тому +76

      Wait till you take transport phenomena.....heat and mass transfer with fluid mechanics.....

    • @Netro1992
      @Netro1992 5 років тому +177

      Once you are done with thermo, you literally see it everywhere and your life will never know peace.

  • @talkingmudcrab718
    @talkingmudcrab718 5 років тому +2198

    I'm just imagining this thing doing a back flip with a chunk of my mobo attached after putting my case right-side up.

    • @kurtdunsmore8197
      @kurtdunsmore8197 5 років тому +331

      It looks to have a back plate and a mounting module that detaches from the actual cooler. If it falls, don't worry about your motherboard. It's taking the whole CPU and socket with it. Lmao.

    • @milchkopf3881
      @milchkopf3881 5 років тому +9

      yes

    • @riffle7311
      @riffle7311 5 років тому +11

      *front flip

    • @arescet
      @arescet 5 років тому +28

      At least you had better temps than a liquid cooler right?

    • @steveman1982
      @steveman1982 5 років тому +14

      Dropped my case (whoops) when packing up for a lan party, luckily I had the GPU removed. But man, with such a device, it would have damaged a lot.

  • @grossteilfahrer
    @grossteilfahrer 4 роки тому +1649

    Anything "first quarter of 2020" seems optimistic in retrospect

    • @unkid4n
      @unkid4n 4 роки тому +31

      Yeah my pre-order is rotting somewhere :(

    • @obedulloa6219
      @obedulloa6219 4 роки тому +12

      @@unkid4n Well, to my country they will ship by sea so it will arrive at best by the end of this year and more likely it will be here by the end of January 2021... without considering the delay at customs that are a highly inefficient these days.

    • @lpalmer212
      @lpalmer212 4 роки тому

      damn you right

    • @Hyphonetics
      @Hyphonetics 4 роки тому +4

      @@unkid4n According to a mid-October update the first pallet of coolers is on the way to their facility from the manufacturer, looks like November or December for pre-orders to get delivered

    • @cookiemancookies8226
      @cookiemancookies8226 4 роки тому +2

      @@obedulloa6219 Agreed, I think we should fire their marketting team and hire more blue collar workers to punch these out.

  • @randomguy4616
    @randomguy4616 5 років тому +2448

    Linus : We aren't ready to declare this cooler as the best cooler...
    Also Linus : Water cooling is *DEAD*

    • @Narcostic
      @Narcostic 5 років тому +127

      LMFAO clickbaiting at it's best!

    • @AspLode
      @AspLode 5 років тому +82

      Remember when Linus went through this channel and went one by one trying to kill the clickbait in a stream, and then failed miserably?

    • @commandertaco1762
      @commandertaco1762 5 років тому +28

      Just like how he praised ryzen to no end and then declared he had lost faith in amd until ryzen 3rd gen lol

    • @joesterling4299
      @joesterling4299 5 років тому +28

      @@Narcostic That's the clickbait that got me in here. I'm determined not to turn my future PCs into aquariums. The headline gave me hope.

    • @goatse3504
      @goatse3504 5 років тому +5

      clickbait title lol

  • @NWOization
    @NWOization 5 років тому +2050

    "It should last around ten lifetimes."
    Once the investors hear this, they'll reduce the lifespan by 99%

    • @megapro125
      @megapro125 5 років тому +404

      the CPU manufacturers already do the job for them. The cooler might last forever but the supported sockets will be outdated in 5 years tops.

    • @jesus2621
      @jesus2621 5 років тому +122

      @@megapro125 then they will sell adaptets at 70% the price of the entire cooler like that company i cannot remember thename... the one that sell overpriced products... oh i remember.. Apple

    • @TheDarkestPaladin
      @TheDarkestPaladin 5 років тому +36

      @@jesus2621 noctua sends you the adapters for free

    • @TheDarkestPaladin
      @TheDarkestPaladin 5 років тому +34

      @@tj_2701 we found the amd fan boy that doesn't realise both intel amd only care about your money

    • @lordelliott42
      @lordelliott42 5 років тому +3

      @@jesus2621
      An adapter isn't going to work (or work but with poorer performance) if next gen sockets are different enough, or if motherboards don't leave enough room around the socket.

  • @tls5870
    @tls5870 5 років тому +2997

    That thing looks like it will crack my motherboard

    • @acehighdan
      @acehighdan 5 років тому +93

      the motherboard is not what is supporting the load of the heat-sink, it just looks that way

    • @haqqizillysozo
      @haqqizillysozo 5 років тому +8

      ?

    • @nestormoctezuma4695
      @nestormoctezuma4695 5 років тому +117

      Ace so what is holding it?

    • @Pablotome97
      @Pablotome97 5 років тому +75

      @@nestormoctezuma4695 the case

    • @SirusStarTV
      @SirusStarTV 5 років тому +16

      I think sponsor users can't just not comment.

  • @jackplummer161
    @jackplummer161 4 роки тому +862

    never thought i'd see the day when watercooling was the budget option

    • @aulusflavius9635
      @aulusflavius9635 3 роки тому +11

      @ALIENfx You beat me to it, I came here to say exactly that.

    • @nnightkingj
      @nnightkingj 3 роки тому +3

      @@aulusflavius9635 the average person won't get a custom cooling system tho

    • @aulusflavius9635
      @aulusflavius9635 3 роки тому +1

      @@nnightkingj but... i am pretty average... lol Yeah, you are probably right.

    • @BembelinCz
      @BembelinCz 3 роки тому

      @@aulusflavius9635 Well you have a custom loop... you ain't average anymore :D

    • @aulusflavius9635
      @aulusflavius9635 3 роки тому +1

      @@BembelinCz I even have TECs that were on GPUs with a water loop and the CPU had a vapor phase change head on it. So yeah, a custom water loop is pretty normal. :p

  • @reekol
    @reekol 5 років тому +888

    This technology was used long time ago in old soviets era, refrigerators .... and is really reliable ( lasts for decades )

    • @bigtastyben5119
      @bigtastyben5119 5 років тому +78

      Stalin playing a long game to ensure world wide socialism I tell you hwat, bobbeh.

    • @bgtubber
      @bgtubber 5 років тому +82

      After the apocalypse, only soviet era hardware will remain functional. 😂 No complex electronics to fry and simple, but reliable construction.

    • @vladsnape6408
      @vladsnape6408 5 років тому +59

      @@bgtubber People are still building guitar amplifiers using soviet valves, so some guitar players will still be able to djent after the apocalypse.

    • @JuvoII
      @JuvoII 5 років тому +22

      @Evil Robin Oh comeon... It is how our refrigerators work, and ground heating of our homes work. The fluid boils at low temperature, the shift from liquid to gas pulls energy out of it's surroundings (endotherm reaction), in this case heat from the cpu. The vapor goes somewhere else, and liquifies back, releasing energy in the shift (exotherm). The whole thing is lead around in a loop.

    • @dre04mach
      @dre04mach 5 років тому +62

      Growing up in eastern europe, I remember at one point our fridge stopped working. We ended up buying a 2nd hand "Zil" - some russian fridge that someone who had it for decades (it was the rounded edge kind) had for sale - that someone left the country and came to the US. Got 2 guys to help move it, brought it home, plugged it in, ran ok, only thing was, being that it wasn't an iceless freezer, the freezer potion froze over causing 1+ inch thick ice in 1-2 days... that wasn't normal. We asked the previous owner (via a very expensive phone call) if that was the case when they had it and they said no... long story short, we found out the thing had an external 220v to 110v transformer box that the movers forgot to pick up. It ran for about 3 months at 220v, basically overclocked... didn't skip a beat.

  • @NoobOfShame
    @NoobOfShame 5 років тому +678

    "it doesn't look like much right now"
    My first thought was it looks like *too* much already

    • @jessejames5033
      @jessejames5033 5 років тому +1

      Hahaha !

    • @stevethea5250
      @stevethea5250 5 років тому +1

      @@jessejames5033 have completed the Price Verification section of the claim form (if the item is reduced by more than $200 and you do not have the original catalogue, advertisement or promotional flyer (with a printed visible date) from the store of purchase showing the new reduced price);

    • @jessejames5033
      @jessejames5033 5 років тому +12

      @@stevethea5250 say what ? can you talk like a normal person ?

    • @josephneider7332
      @josephneider7332 5 років тому +3

      Sous Vide Everything flashbacks intensify

    • @QuadPowerful
      @QuadPowerful 5 років тому +1

      I think i will buy the Arctic Freezer 50,it's smaller,cheaper and very close in performance.

  • @ReaperMain
    @ReaperMain 4 роки тому +396

    We have gone from huge ass computers with small coolers to small ass computers with Huge coolers.
    *WTF is going on!*

    • @jonathanoxlade4252
      @jonathanoxlade4252 4 роки тому +7

      Parts get smaller and they get more hotter and denser and even more hotter lol it’s like cramping 8k in a 1inch square imagine the fucking heat dumbass fools gonna need better cooling before long liquid nitrogen or we get to the point a cpu puts out 1500watts of heat ether way lol

    • @facepalm7345
      @facepalm7345 4 роки тому +12

      @@jonathanoxlade4252 Well not really, you have a ton of chips without any cooling nowadays. high performance stuff sucks in power only because they shove as much power into it as they can. node shrinkage has continually allowed things to compute at lower power usage. computers nowadays might use 2 or 3 times more power, but they're millions or billions of times more powerful

    • @ber2996
      @ber2996 4 роки тому +6

      I can literally see a future with coolers as big as a room since quantum computers being developed today requires almost a cabinet size cooler

    • @ber2996
      @ber2996 4 роки тому

      @@Jordan-J-Bird ikr

    • @MrAsus3571
      @MrAsus3571 3 роки тому +1

      Damn it i just bought a d15s

  • @zibbz80
    @zibbz80 4 роки тому +271

    "Aight I need this"
    *Sits in 2,5 x 3 room with no air-circulation*

    • @chancepaladin
      @chancepaladin 4 роки тому +2

      bingo, exactly!

    • @PunakiviAddikti
      @PunakiviAddikti 3 роки тому

      I want one just so I can heat my apartment with it. Seriously, the fuckers in charge of the central heat system fucking capped the heat at just barely comfortable *if* you have multiple layers of clothes on. Obviously this is in the winter when temps drop.

  • @lukaswigren
    @lukaswigren 5 років тому +440

    Me: Gets water cooling in my new PC
    Linus: Water Cooling is DEAD

    • @resneptacle
      @resneptacle 5 років тому +9

      Clickbait

    • @F5alconsHouse
      @F5alconsHouse 5 років тому

      it isn't when you take noise into it.

    • @BruceCarbonLakeriver
      @BruceCarbonLakeriver 5 років тому +5

      Depends on the concept of water cooling. I'd use water cooling in my production machine (Videos and 3D Rendering) but with an huge radiator and a buffer of a few liters. Not those little kits (like the shown one) which just 'move' the fan away of the cpu ...

    • @ivaanrl3332
      @ivaanrl3332 5 років тому +4

      It's like you didn't even watch the video

    • @XhizorBE
      @XhizorBE 5 років тому

      @@F5alconsHouse Did you even watched the video ?

  • @tabcreedence6553
    @tabcreedence6553 5 років тому +750

    When your heatsink is bigger than your PSU you know you have entered the future

    • @jonathanoxlade4252
      @jonathanoxlade4252 4 роки тому +19

      Too be honest having something that plugs and just works lol unlike watercooling that could leak and ruin your parts alongside a gpu with this slapped to it will be a laugh lol well gpus are gonna get a hotter won’t be long before you need to slap a 500watt cooler on it it lol

    • @kennyyuliandrika7162
      @kennyyuliandrika7162 4 роки тому +7

      I kinds hope that the future we have more efficient pc.

    • @jerenceaviado7367
      @jerenceaviado7367 4 роки тому +3

      @@kennyyuliandrika7162 we'll have completely ARM pcs, so I'm counting on that efficiency

    • @MsHumanOfTheDecade
      @MsHumanOfTheDecade 4 роки тому +8

      @@jerenceaviado7367 if we have arm pcs, i'm committing suicide as someone that already has to deal with multitudes of changes in the x86 isa and having to check so many fucking things in cpuid. if arm becomes widespread, and i have to check even floating point support, i really don't know if i could continue my work while being sane.

    • @voltronhasguns
      @voltronhasguns 4 роки тому +2

      @@kennyyuliandrika7162 quantum computers are coming

  • @1Yooter
    @1Yooter 5 років тому +649

    Selling my fridge for this. No need to have both anymore.

    • @djrenier
      @djrenier 4 роки тому +5

      I laughed out loud

    • @Jeeebss
      @Jeeebss 4 роки тому +2

      lmao

    • @axo42
      @axo42 4 роки тому +4

      You should’ve kept your fridge and put the pc in it, problem solved

    • @AsianCole
      @AsianCole 4 роки тому +2

      Axolotlball shouldve put the fridge in the pc

    • @axo42
      @axo42 4 роки тому

      Huge Mattress Gaming what if you get a mini fridge, pit it in the normal fridge, put the pc in the mini fridge and then put an ice pack in the pc

  • @BigCappuh
    @BigCappuh 3 роки тому +43

    The phase changes from liquid to gas result in much higher heat transfer. Thats why HVAC uses refrigerants with low boiling points. Thats why the thermosiphon works better than liquid coolers

  • @NoName-po5qx
    @NoName-po5qx 5 років тому +498

    Linus: goes full geek mode on heat transfer
    Me: PTSD Flashbacks to my heat transfer class

    • @ZakiAsir
      @ZakiAsir 5 років тому +20

      enthalpy time

    • @kevinportilla9320
      @kevinportilla9320 5 років тому +3

      @@ZakiAsir same

    • @josedeleon1923
      @josedeleon1923 5 років тому

      Cbeddoe19 Lucky you, mine just made us write them on paper and give it to him as practice, some people just gave him photocopies and still passed the class.

    • @voidlight6006
      @voidlight6006 5 років тому

      thermodynamics was so hard

    • @hashvendetta7226
      @hashvendetta7226 5 років тому

      Heat loss/ heat gain is such a boring slog. I used to hate it

  • @pweezy5953
    @pweezy5953 5 років тому +785

    The title should be, "installing a refrigerator inside a computer".

    • @miscbits6399
      @miscbits6399 5 років тому +17

      Outperforming waterblocks. The joys of phase changes...

    • @urboyseth5922
      @urboyseth5922 5 років тому +11

      good idea, i'll drill a hole through my refrigeration and put my laptop in it to cool it down

    • @pio2569
      @pio2569 5 років тому +3

      P Weezy nah that’s the new Xbox

    • @XhizorBE
      @XhizorBE 5 років тому +1

      @@pio2569 3 controllers height ? Get the fuck out of here you moron

    • @octavianhd
      @octavianhd 5 років тому +1

      @@urboyseth5922 - funny thing is, he's done this too. "Linus Ruins Everything"

  • @jackofalltrades3011
    @jackofalltrades3011 5 років тому +1240

    How are the temps when the fans are swapped with Noctua fans?
    Asking for a friend.

    • @LinusTechTips
      @LinusTechTips  5 років тому +676

      ~1 or 2C worse

    • @supernoodles908
      @supernoodles908 5 років тому +77

      @@LinusTechTips really 🤔 that's odd

    • @dapz
      @dapz 5 років тому +80

      @@LinusTechTips how about noctua 3000rpm ippc? I mean I understand but still
      EDIT: How about some 38mm thick Delta server fans? Like ones that output 255cfm

    • @seljd
      @seljd 5 років тому +44

      @@supernoodles908 Noctua fans might not be as efficient as those Delta fans at high speeds

    • @loomnatinoscopers
      @loomnatinoscopers 5 років тому +6

      @@LinusTechTips what about the sound tho?

  • @aalever
    @aalever 4 роки тому +69

    I really feel that it's time to redesign the way that GPUs, CPUs, and more are housed in cases and mobos, since the design hasn't fundamentally changed in decades. We've got GPUs where you can't easily pick custom cooling solutions without card disassembly, CPUs where huge coolers hang off the sides of them, stressing the mobo, PSUs with cumbersome wiring situations, and now RGB with even crazier cable management. If you rethought the whole situation from the ground up to expect large coolers on both GPUs and CPUs, RGB, better PSU connections, and more, that you'd end up with something very different from the inconveniences we're settling with now. In the custom PC market today, everyone's just making faster horses.

    • @GoatPopsicle
      @GoatPopsicle 2 роки тому +9

      The problems with that kind of generational change in technology (a total tech redesign in your idea) is the same with all others.
      Your idea seems to be a total redesign of the entire “tower”, to be re-optimized for products bought/used mostly by gamers.
      So, why would the private & public business sectors, which are major investors in the current design ecosystem, invest into a brand new & more game-specialized computer ecosystem?
      It’s hard for me to believe, that without them investing billions into buying that new design for entire corporations and government departments. That it would ever become more than the niche product that most current gaming-optimized parts are, and leaving the prices out of reach for the average budget gamer as well.

    • @GameDevNerd
      @GameDevNerd 2 роки тому +6

      Maybe they shouldn't be mounted directly on the mobo and shouldn't be kept in a little hot box crowded together ... a traditional case is a kind of silly, old fashioned idea that you have to put all this stuff in a neat little box for consumers. Look at how crypto miners and deep learning folks build their powerful systems ... it's all open racks with GPUs on risers and components spaced out with cables ... no boxes that turn into destructive heaters and no hanging parts in mobo sockets to make them sag, wear out and break as they get hot and stressed over time

    • @GoatPopsicle
      @GoatPopsicle 2 роки тому +7

      @@GameDevNerd in your idea, what happens to the dust/skin/hair/etc… filtration?
      I have a customized open test bench at work, and that thing has to inspected and cleaned 2x/month because of our sector’s testing standards demand it. That’s also with the system in the closest specialist mechanics could get to a clean room, which is just a smaller copy of our paint booth.
      I couldn’t imagine an open system like that in most people’s houses. Especially, after watching the videos of channels like these roasting their worker’s setups. If professionals can’t keep their stuff perfectly clean, how can PC makers expect the average person too.
      I would honestly love it if we moved to a totally “zero moving parts” design for home computers, and adding custom coolers(fans/liquid/etc..) would be the domain of the specialist market.
      In that scenario businesses could offload/connect individual computer cooling needs into a centralized system. That kind of system could reduce energy needs and considerably lower the cooling costs in the average cubicle farm.

    • @kylegilmore3810
      @kylegilmore3810 2 роки тому +2

      @@GoatPopsicle 2 times a month is a bid deal to you? It takes five minutes to fully disassemble it lol
      Just how filthy is your room/office/workstation anyway that your so worried about it? hit with a duster can once a week and it's taken care of
      " I couldn’t imagine an open system like that in most people’s houses."
      Good Lord how melodramatic can you be? It's an open pc case not parts hanging from the ceiling. The only real concern is damage and a skeletal frame would protect it just fine

    • @TheCrazierz
      @TheCrazierz 2 роки тому

      @@GoatPopsicle well, I have a wall mounted, open air PC, I dust it whenever I dust the room. Not really a big issue. Don't need as many fans.

  • @CNCharger
    @CNCharger 5 років тому +574

    my motherboard: Oi, My Back

    • @YukiNeko-Neko
      @YukiNeko-Neko 5 років тому +19

      Manufactures start adding super huge backplates to add strength and avoid motherboard warp-age >.

    • @shutereye2634
      @shutereye2634 5 років тому +11

      @@YukiNeko-Neko and then they add RGB to it and now we have to route our cables cleanly in the back too

    • @CNCharger
      @CNCharger 5 років тому +2

      Still, that is one HUGE air cooler. And it looks pretty ugly in my opinion.

    • @YukiNeko-Neko
      @YukiNeko-Neko 5 років тому

      @@CNCharger he did say that was just prototype and they were gonna make it smaller guess we just wait and see if it stays that big don't think i would buy it either

  • @Edward135i
    @Edward135i 5 років тому +281

    "it doesn't look like much" it looks like you pulled it out of the lambo.

    • @ufodeath
      @ufodeath 5 років тому +1

      Linus can be pretty out of touch at times.

    • @unpersonableme1805
      @unpersonableme1805 5 років тому +4

      Really?
      It's a black box. It doesn't look like much.

  • @gamamew
    @gamamew 5 років тому +598

    Linus: "Water Cooling is DEAD"
    Me: Jay is now unemployed.

    • @koyomiararagi3018
      @koyomiararagi3018 5 років тому +23

      I think Jay has admitted that air cooling is at the point where water cooling is just more of a hassle. He just sticks with it because he is a water cooling enthusiast.

    • @cardboardpig
      @cardboardpig 5 років тому +3

      @@koyomiararagi3018 Watercooling on a GPU is still great.

    • @TheRguru1
      @TheRguru1 5 років тому +7

      JayzTwoCents just became JayzNoCents

    • @orangerider2827
      @orangerider2827 5 років тому +5

      Aio is dead. It hasn't been much better then high end air cooling for awhile. Real open loop water cooling is where it's at.

    • @D-Dreamerz
      @D-Dreamerz 5 років тому +4

      @@koyomiararagi3018 Water cooling is alway more hassle. It is, from the beginning, enthusiast's territory. Therefor it will never die just because something better come along.

  • @jarleron4788
    @jarleron4788 4 роки тому +332

    Wife: Why did you buy a new refrigerator?
    Me: It is technically a computer case but doubles as both
    The kitchen is the new gaming room.

    • @obedulloa6219
      @obedulloa6219 4 роки тому +4

      Like the old LTT videos

    • @rylematthewdiazjandog1041
      @rylematthewdiazjandog1041 4 роки тому +2

      so your wife is a gamer now?

    • @kingarthurthe5th
      @kingarthurthe5th 4 роки тому +4

      Don’t forget to waterproof your system, else except condensation to fuck up some stuff

    • @destroyerdragon2002
      @destroyerdragon2002 3 роки тому +3

      Add gallons of water at the bottom to increase the fridges thermal mass. Otherwise the compressor might struggle to keep up ;)

    • @glenholmgren1218
      @glenholmgren1218 3 роки тому

      PERFECT! Saves getting up to get snacks from refrigerator while gaming

  • @robotslug
    @robotslug 5 років тому +106

    I always love to see innovation and fresh ideas enter the market. I wish Ice Giant nothing but the best!

    • @taintedbloodlives6851
      @taintedbloodlives6851 5 років тому +2

      Very much so my guy

    • @morpheas768
      @morpheas768 5 років тому

      You're gonna get scammed so much with that sort of mentality.

    • @Cloudmaster1511
      @Cloudmaster1511 5 років тому

      @@morpheas768 amen.... what abot the phononic hex 2 or the engine 27?

    • @robotslug
      @robotslug 5 років тому +2

      @@morpheas768 No? Wanting to see innovative ideas come around doesn't mean I throw my common sense out the window. Smh.

    • @jdrok5026
      @jdrok5026 5 років тому

      @@robotslug but they need to be new or innovative. Using phase changes is not new technology.

  • @doge9581
    @doge9581 5 років тому +1250

    Linus: watercooling is dead
    Me: is this a rich joke that I'm too peasant to understand?

    • @Budder99
      @Budder99 5 років тому +23

      Yeah Ikr, I'm just happy my fan cpu cooler is still working for my i5 2500k ngl 😅

    • @MrMartin48705
      @MrMartin48705 5 років тому

      @@dustindickens1445 he literally "upgraded" that to like 200$, so no.

    • @mustafabutt1839
      @mustafabutt1839 5 років тому

      😞

    • @vickybowe3975
      @vickybowe3975 5 років тому +2

      @@dustindickens1445 Even the 69 doller pc?"
      Especially that one!

    • @Adoredragoon
      @Adoredragoon 5 років тому +8

      @CoDGplays why are you talking about your self like that

  • @Scerttle
    @Scerttle 5 років тому +137

    Gonna need this in Australia this summer even if you don’t overclock.

    • @tommybro5313
      @tommybro5313 5 років тому +11

      Get an aircoditioner.

    • @jassimmn9004
      @jassimmn9004 5 років тому +1

      what do I say then

    • @grahamdelacey5779
      @grahamdelacey5779 5 років тому +7

      im in townsville where we average 33c during summer, we have hit 36c a few days already, im running an 1800x @ 4.2g with a hybrid water cooling system 3x120mm fans, even while bench marking my system the cpu never goes over 60c in a normal room with only ceiling fans running. there is no need for this type of device for the average gamer / user in australia.

    • @taiiat0
      @taiiat0 5 років тому +2

      @@grahamdelacey5779
      yeah, Radiators are good enough for hot climates. the higher Efficiency of the Radiator already overcomes the ambient Temperature.

    • @jondonnelly3
      @jondonnelly3 5 років тому +1

      @@grahamdelacey5779 your cpu is old man

  • @WilliamKluge
    @WilliamKluge 4 роки тому +24

    The production value of LTT stuff is insane these days. Truly impressive!

  • @thegamerzak1666
    @thegamerzak1666 5 років тому +592

    Linus : Meet the thermosiphon.
    .
    My motherboard : aight, imma head out.

    • @OutOfRangeDE
      @OutOfRangeDE 5 років тому +6

      Underrated

    • @zecle
      @zecle 5 років тому +18

      why do i feel like this thing will rip my botherboard in 7 days ?

    • @Ferroes
      @Ferroes 5 років тому +6

      *aight, imma break up

    • @OliverGolfs
      @OliverGolfs 5 років тому

      Normie memes

    • @resneptacle
      @resneptacle 5 років тому

      @coolkid But not on small desks

  • @JustGENERALL
    @JustGENERALL 5 років тому +203

    *Linus: I know this cooler doesn't look like much*
    Me: Trying to imagine how much space that damn thing will take up.

    •  5 років тому +4

      Yeah its the biggest thing in the PC.

    • @Hrjoshi465
      @Hrjoshi465 5 років тому

      Hey linus! A big fan from India! Why don't you try liquid nitrogen cooling system? Please do video on it. Here is a video of it... ua-cam.com/video/WwJvHJ1hyto/v-deo.html

    • @Belikeimpasta
      @Belikeimpasta 5 років тому

      @@Hrjoshi465 he have done this before if im not mistaken

    • @Hrjoshi465
      @Hrjoshi465 5 років тому

      @@Belikeimpasta no he hasn't

    • @Llandari
      @Llandari 5 років тому

      Am I the only one reading this in the voice of Guga over at Sous Vide Everything?

  • @silverhawk7324
    @silverhawk7324 5 років тому +459

    Wtf that ryzen chip has more area than my phone's screen.

    • @andrewphi4958
      @andrewphi4958 5 років тому +16

      You sir have a good phone then!

    • @Restrictted
      @Restrictted 4 роки тому +19

      Upgrade to Android. Stop using those kiddy phones.

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 4 роки тому +11

      @@Restrictted I wish there were small screen Androids. Phone screens larger than 5" suck.

    • @samueljones3668
      @samueljones3668 4 роки тому +9

      @@rightwingsafetysquad9872
      Me with a Infinity Display 6.4" Samsung A51.
      *"You said what?"*

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 4 роки тому +4

      @@samueljones3668 Yep, I have an A50, same 6.4" screen. Hate it. Unfortunately it was the lightest phone you could buy in America for less than $500.

  • @glpinho
    @glpinho 4 роки тому +34

    Just want to say: Yunus Çengel is a pro at writing textbooks, his 'Heat and Mass Transfer' encouraged me to go deep into cooling of electronic equipment as a research topic

  • @jerrywong1541
    @jerrywong1541 5 років тому +574

    ME: Something feel wrong
    12mins later
    ME: Where is the LTTSTORE.COM?

  • @mathisvan27
    @mathisvan27 5 років тому +565

    0:48
    linus : it actually managed to beat this.
    blind people: a ridge wallet?

    • @darvox5361
      @darvox5361 5 років тому +2

      XxSampleText123xX this is a good comment

    • @suprastevio2264
      @suprastevio2264 5 років тому +12

      I'm blind and i see what you did there ;)

    • @RTMostyn
      @RTMostyn 5 років тому +1

      Das a hawt comment

    • @MrMegaPussyPlayer
      @MrMegaPussyPlayer 5 років тому +6

      Well ... to stay fair here ... it certainly cools a processor better than a ridge wallet ... even a blind person can see that.

    • @wale9d
      @wale9d 5 років тому

      It is not funny nor morally to make fun of someone's disability.

  • @luisbautista5176
    @luisbautista5176 5 років тому +2084

    You think that's impressive, try strapping my ex's heart to it.

    • @yeapthatsme2982
      @yeapthatsme2982 5 років тому +131

      That's cold XD

    • @luisbautista5176
      @luisbautista5176 5 років тому +88

      @@yeapthatsme2982 precisely

    • @ilhandaanish2381
      @ilhandaanish2381 5 років тому +18

      Nah mate too cold

    • @macole4958
      @macole4958 5 років тому +13

      You know that you are
      (Cold as, cold as) (ice)
      As cold as ice to me
      (Cold as, cold as, cold as) (ice)
      Cold as ice I know
      (You're as cold as ice)
      Oh, yes I know
      (Cold as ice)

    • @fatalequinox6553
      @fatalequinox6553 5 років тому +4

      Luis Bautista that’s too cold mate

  • @GohanBurner
    @GohanBurner 4 роки тому +268

    Anyone else just learn now there is liquid in an air cooler?

    • @faheem3721
      @faheem3721 4 роки тому +44

      Me so we’ve been water cooling for years without knowing it

    • @Marizyth
      @Marizyth 4 роки тому +78

      wait its all liquid cooling?
      always has been

    • @Koz.for.Concern
      @Koz.for.Concern 4 роки тому +12

      honestly as soon as I heard the term "heat 'pipes'" a good while I did some research because that would mean either it has fluid in it or it's named wrong

    • @hazonku
      @hazonku 4 роки тому +4

      This is what happens when you don't follow the ways of Tech Jesus & learn how they're made from his in depth factory tours.

    • @exgenica
      @exgenica 3 роки тому +7

      BTW, air is a fluid...though not a liquid at standard temperature and pressure.

  • @johnkakareka9949
    @johnkakareka9949 5 років тому +256

    When he said 10 I assume 10 year lifespan, but NO. Around 10 LIFETIMES.

    • @Danuxsy
      @Danuxsy 4 роки тому +21

      10 lifetimes of what, ants?

    • @jdhnxffuxjfjc3716
      @jdhnxffuxjfjc3716 4 роки тому +36

      @@Danuxsy 10 lifetime of a decaying helium-5

    • @Danuxsy
      @Danuxsy 4 роки тому +1

      @@jdhnxffuxjfjc3716 😱

    • @raawesome3851
      @raawesome3851 4 роки тому +8

      I think they mean 1000 years.

    • @sayadiyeojhenries.815
      @sayadiyeojhenries.815 4 роки тому +11

      LOL the half life of helium-5 is 7.595×10 -22 seconds so that's nearly instantaneous. If that was true then they wouldn't have time to complete the test

  • @Rasvashed
    @Rasvashed 5 років тому +18

    HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY,
    Linus crew who reads this. I work at the place where you guys cited the "Boiling Limit" equation! I have been enjoying your videos for years, and always felt smart knowing already how these systems work, but from an R&D perspective.
    Thank you guys and gals at LTT for featuring Advanced Cooling Technologies here in litte ol' Lancaster PA on a global scale. I will let the company know that they were featured in a video that a major UA-cam content creator made. Here's to business opportunity and free exposure!

  • @Abteilol
    @Abteilol 5 років тому +302

    Linus: "...it managed to beat THIS!"
    Other Linus Vid: so did a NH-D15.

    • @RC386spectre
      @RC386spectre 5 років тому +1

      Wasn't that a NH-U12A? So the NH-D15 would have beat it even more handily

    • @HelenGPitts
      @HelenGPitts 5 років тому +1

      Previous month I managed to gather my first five figure paycheck ever!!! I've been working for this provider over the internet for 2 years now and I never been happier... They are paying me $95 per hour, and the most important thing about that is that I am not that tech-savvy, they just asked for standard knowledge about internet and general typing skill...Great thing about it is the more free time I got for my loved ones. I am in a position to commit quality time with my friends and family and take care of my children and also going on family vacation with them very frequently. Don't neglect this opportunity and try to respond rapidly. Check it out, what it is about... *worth48­.­c­o­m*

    • @brutteh
      @brutteh 5 років тому +25

      @@HelenGPitts aight dawg be humble

    • @Yobleck
      @Yobleck 5 років тому

      but in that vid I think they were testing consumer cpu's. not threadripper 2 with 300+ watts of power consumption

    • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
      @user-yv2cz8oj1k 5 років тому

      Spam reported.

  • @CharisMR
    @CharisMR 4 роки тому +3

    I just discovered your channel and I have to say it is pure copper! Thank you so much for this high-quality content.

  • @Okguy1_Music
    @Okguy1_Music 5 років тому +1526

    Vodka cooling is way better

    • @PC_CERTIFIED
      @PC_CERTIFIED 5 років тому +44

      ua-cam.com/video/IYTJfLyo_vE/v-deo.html

    • @Okguy1_Music
      @Okguy1_Music 5 років тому +7

      @@PC_CERTIFIED yes

    • @l__l2328
      @l__l2328 5 років тому +6

      Jokes aside, its a pretty bad idea.

    • @Okguy1_Music
      @Okguy1_Music 5 років тому +18

      @@l__l2328 wdym if u check out the link its a good cooling system

    • @l__l2328
      @l__l2328 5 років тому +24

      Alcohol would destroy plastics and the tubing in long run

  • @MartinOlminkhof
    @MartinOlminkhof 5 років тому +53

    Putting this on my "wait and see" list.

  • @gullf1sk
    @gullf1sk 5 років тому +96

    I had a freon gas cooler in the early 2000s, it cooled my CPU to -30 degrees celcius.
    It was an ASETek Vapochill case.

    • @chancepaladin
      @chancepaladin 4 роки тому +1

      memmmmoirrrieessssssssssss

    • @gamwpanagia
      @gamwpanagia 4 роки тому +1

      Gotta love the 90s

    • @obedulloa6219
      @obedulloa6219 4 роки тому

      DAMN that was a marvel

    • @D8W2P4
      @D8W2P4 4 роки тому

      Looks like a pretty good case actually.

  • @frigginresulrum
    @frigginresulrum 4 роки тому +60

    "Hopefully in early 2020"
    How'd that end up going?

    • @voltronhasguns
      @voltronhasguns 4 роки тому +4

      I just ordered one for a September release

    • @zoroz93games34
      @zoroz93games34 4 роки тому +1

      @@voltronhasguns Right but Corona

    • @thebasketofgoods9753
      @thebasketofgoods9753 4 роки тому +1

      That's handy to know, I was curious about it when I saw this vid again while looking into water cooling

    • @flippiflippar9022
      @flippiflippar9022 4 роки тому +1

      They also upped the price from 120$ to 170$, in case anyone missed that.

    • @obedulloa6219
      @obedulloa6219 4 роки тому

      @@flippiflippar9022 120$ was the pre-order price and they solved the mounting plate problems... it was a problem on the machine that manufactured it and not on the design of the prosiphon.
      That being said... it's a bummer to wait several months for the product that when ordered was expected for June-July but will probable arrive by January 2021... well, at least the delay was to ensure the quality of the product so I'm fine with that and also the covid related delays since nothing to be done about that.
      All in all... it's seems a good option for the price as a cooler that well be usable when I upgrade to a Threadripper.

  • @NineEyeRon
    @NineEyeRon 5 років тому +415

    “Its getting hot in here, so take off all your load”

    • @boheyo
      @boheyo 5 років тому +41

      I am getting so hot / I'm gonna clock some cores down

    • @xapexi
      @xapexi 5 років тому +2

      give me all your load

    • @stickmaker10111
      @stickmaker10111 5 років тому +3

      Cause It's a bittersweet.... Siphoning.... this heaaat. Tryna make wicking work, you're a slave to the LTT pro hacks then you dieeieehhh.
      I'll take you down the same sponsored video I've always been down. You know the one that sells you the same VPN, yeah

    • @Jeon1958able
      @Jeon1958able 5 років тому +2

      "It's getting hot, I want to take my load off~"

    • @qxe1328
      @qxe1328 5 років тому

      Pickup line:
      Your the AM4 to my 3950X ;)
      Or:
      I’m gonna out my GPU in your PCI express slot

  • @basilsmm
    @basilsmm 5 років тому +137

    1:53 I tried to escape my thermodynamics book by opening this video but looks like the book is supernatural and it implemented itself inside Linus' video...

    • @Gekko12482
      @Gekko12482 5 років тому +5

      I immediatly recognized the figure. Sort of a traumatic throwback lol

    • @basilsmm
      @basilsmm 5 років тому

      @@Unknown-sz8kg sorry no can do, I'll be left with nothing to cover my head.

  • @b-init1221
    @b-init1221 5 років тому +361

    0:47
    You missed the chance to say
    *"What's not Bulky is our sponsor, Ridge wallets"*

    • @Cowcow211
      @Cowcow211 5 років тому +4

      They don't always know what sponsor will be on what video so hence the cut from the pre-roll.

    • @bestsolution8344
      @bestsolution8344 5 років тому

      @@Cowcow211 yes but he could say you know what is not Bulky our sponser of this video and then cut

    • @chiefdenis
      @chiefdenis 5 років тому

      Linus is losing his edge

    • @aadad-7825
      @aadad-7825 5 років тому

      They also just use the same videos for the sponsor spots

  • @darkSorceror
    @darkSorceror 4 роки тому +15

    It outperforms everything else!*
    *unless you take margin of error into account.

  • @Lamb666
    @Lamb666 5 років тому +45

    1:40 thank you for reminding me of my heat transfer exam on Wednesday.

    • @levismith5169
      @levismith5169 5 років тому +1

      Lamb get studying. Finals wait for no man.

    • @DevChow
      @DevChow 5 років тому

      Lamb Thermodynamics is waiting for you. Finals waits for no one.

  • @SamoScopom
    @SamoScopom 5 років тому +82

    I would be willing to sacrifice case orientation for significantly better cooling.

  • @danieljones8706
    @danieljones8706 5 років тому +241

    "These fans our loud"
    Meanwhile my PC sounds like an old Diesel engine.

    • @jamiem5068
      @jamiem5068 5 років тому +23

      our loud? are loud?

    • @leoronus9466
      @leoronus9466 5 років тому +18

      I feel you. My PC use to sound like a Metallica concert until I got a new mobo where I could actually adjust fan curves

    • @jeremymerkt3526
      @jeremymerkt3526 5 років тому +2

      jamie marshall 👮🚓🚨🚨

    • @22cj57
      @22cj57 5 років тому +2

      (laughs in 46cc laptop)
      it goes RING DING DING every time i watch youtube

    • @AuroraNemoia
      @AuroraNemoia 5 років тому +3

      @@22cj57 your pc is crazy frog?

  • @whyjay9959
    @whyjay9959 3 роки тому +129

    Wait, heat pipes are actual pipes? I thought it's a metaphor and they're just solid copper.

    • @barrybritcher
      @barrybritcher 3 роки тому +6

      Lol

    • @AshLordCurry
      @AshLordCurry 3 роки тому +9

      @@barrybritcher pretty much my reaction

    • @BushidoBrownSama
      @BushidoBrownSama 3 роки тому +1

      not sure if joking

    • @mononokehime3182
      @mononokehime3182 3 роки тому +2

      I didn't know they were called heat pipes. I don't even think I realized they were there to begin with.

    • @0Metatron
      @0Metatron 3 роки тому +2

      That means that “air coolers” are actually water coolers in disguise

  • @MrMoxes
    @MrMoxes 5 років тому +483

    5:10 As soon I heard "prototype" and the fact that they are planning to reduce it's size by up 1/3 of the size, I became very concerned. Hopefully this doesn't turn out like another dead end or fails to materialize.
    I really do wish them the best though.

    • @MrMoxes
      @MrMoxes 5 років тому +11

      @@alistairblaire6001 Agreed. I do hope we see something going forward. I am just skeptical.

    • @TPixelAdventures
      @TPixelAdventures 5 років тому +8

      Remember the Sandia cooler?
      Pepperidge Farm remembers....

    • @hynekboruvka8346
      @hynekboruvka8346 5 років тому +3

      Not likely. It already works in this stage. And as was said in video - it isn't huge problem to mount it and use it now while still bulky.

    • @benjaminjackson5194
      @benjaminjackson5194 5 років тому

      @TJ_ I'm not the only one

    • @hawkertyphoon4537
      @hawkertyphoon4537 5 років тому +2

      same philosophy here. "moar radiation!" "moar fins" "moar cooling"...

  • @2012TheAndromeda
    @2012TheAndromeda 5 років тому +134

    0:35
    "It doesn't look like much right now."
    That thing looks like a brick to a skyscraper. And heavy!

    • @adamtajhassam9188
      @adamtajhassam9188 4 роки тому +2

      Agreed. the numbers dont seem impressive all that much either , maybe wait 5 yrs and see other companies do better.. im thinking.

  • @bartb7790
    @bartb7790 4 роки тому +1

    Now (aug 2020) its still not shipping. Icegiant now aims for sept 2020. Also the price went up to $170. They now include 4 fans, but no word on the manufacturer of those fans an the noise level.

  • @FelipoGoncalves
    @FelipoGoncalves 5 років тому +104

    Linus: "... as the kids say"
    Kids: What?

  • @oof6780
    @oof6780 5 років тому +38

    Frankenstein GPU + ProSiphon
    Mobo:(chuckles) i'm in danger

    • @DeadNoob451
      @DeadNoob451 5 років тому +4

      Thats sounds like a great way to get a "single use detachable PCIe Slot".

  • @WahlVids
    @WahlVids 5 років тому +42

    Linus: Intel's high end desktop chip's these days
    AMD: I'm confused... in this dimension?

    • @KC-bg1th
      @KC-bg1th 5 років тому +4

      A high end Honda can still exist at the same time as a high end Mercedes.

    • @wonk40
      @wonk40 5 років тому +1

      *grabs popcorn*

    • @mrjohnnyk
      @mrjohnnyk 5 років тому

      @@KC-bg1th Well yeah the new NSX is supercar fast

  • @jamesyeoman794
    @jamesyeoman794 3 роки тому +2

    Here's a quick thought: what about reversing the flow direction of the top case fans? This would only work if the fans on the thermosyphon are configured to push air across it (because there'd be more air pressure pulling air across the thermosyphon)

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 5 років тому +6

    I remember when I used to build car engines. Heat was always an issue as horsepower increased. We did the same things to improve cooling and keep the engines running at their optimum temperatures. And considering the heat generated by modern CPUS. I am excited for these newer cooling manners.

  • @EricZeBaws
    @EricZeBaws 5 років тому +163

    Last time I was this early water cooling was still alive

    • @_yuri
      @_yuri 5 років тому +1

      @Advocatus Diaboli that is what he meant with "alive" yeah i am not interested in spending $700 on my liquid cooling i will just take a good air cooler like this or nhd15 and be done with it.

    • @merritt2014
      @merritt2014 5 років тому +1

      Water cooling is now deader than PC's with leaks.

    • @MrBiky
      @MrBiky 5 років тому +1

      @Advocatus Diaboli I really don't know how a custom loop can keep up with a 500W CPU and a 400W GPU. Maybe if you have 2 loops in 1 case. And by the time you manage to fit 3x 360mm rads into a big case which supports so many, how much would you have spent, compared to this Thermosiphon cooler? You may have a point if we talk about acoustics, but this thing is not far off. As LTT pointed out in another comment, this thing with Noctua fans performs 1 to 2 C worse. It's size looks like 2x 240mm rads stacked together. If we are to believe that the final version will only have the thickness of 1 thicker 240mm rad and have the same performance, @ $150 MSRP it will be hard to beat. And I can't wait to see what it could do if it was made of copper.

    • @_yuri
      @_yuri 5 років тому

      @Mr. Chair i am afraid to even read reeply to me properly but the guy sure is passionate so i wont argue lol

  • @BagusHanindhito
    @BagusHanindhito 5 років тому +113

    R.I.P. RGB Memory Sticks

  • @ThomasFort
    @ThomasFort 4 роки тому +7

    The ship date for the production model is Dec 2020 I would love to see Linus do another video on it.

    • @danielo9827
      @danielo9827 4 роки тому

      Video on the retail version of the thermosiphon is out now! Also done by Linus

    • @smaug.the.stupendous
      @smaug.the.stupendous 4 роки тому

      @@danielo9827 Link?

    • @danielo9827
      @danielo9827 4 роки тому

      @@smaug.the.stupendous Here's the link:
      ua-cam.com/video/U-BWEDfrE9c/v-deo.html
      According to linus, this thing is as good as custom water cooling loops.
      For less than 50% of the price

  • @karenwoolley4279
    @karenwoolley4279 5 років тому +34

    10:05 Passive version sounds cool!

    • @MrParmenio24
      @MrParmenio24 5 років тому +9

      Shouldn't sound like anything 😀

    • @karenwoolley4279
      @karenwoolley4279 5 років тому +1

      @@MrParmenio24 and that is cool! I run Red drives for media since at 5400RPM they have been very quiet and more than adequate for my needs. NVMe for performance WD Red for storage.

    • @goodgoyim9459
      @goodgoyim9459 5 років тому +2

      No karen, you cannot speak to the manager.

  • @onimashou8705
    @onimashou8705 5 років тому +522

    GPU sag.......
    This thing: Hold my beer

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 5 років тому +6

      My Rx 580 sags more than that thing is.

    • @ScarletGuts
      @ScarletGuts 5 років тому +6

      Randomly Entertaining greaaaat I just picked up the msi rx 580, now ur telling me it’s gonna sag

    • @koyomiararagi3018
      @koyomiararagi3018 5 років тому +1

      @@ScarletGuts i assume yours has a backplate. You should be fine. I have an msi rx 480 gaming x. No sag and acts like new and performs better than ever. The 580 refresh should have no issues

    • @tofu.delivery.
      @tofu.delivery. 5 років тому +5

      @@ScarletGuts lol not to be critical or anything but why would you pick up an rx580 in this day and age? It's such an old card and there are significantly better options to be had if you save up a little more. Don't get me wrong it's a great card, but the performance you'll be getting isn't quite representative of what you could be getting at the end of 2019

    • @koyomiararagi3018
      @koyomiararagi3018 5 років тому +11

      @@tofu.delivery. for a budget build it isnt a terrible purchase. Even with my older 480 i can still play most games over 60 on high settings. Medium where needed. I habe yet to see a game that is impossible to play at visually acceptable levels at 1080p. Radeon image sharpening really helps because you can turn off AA for big fps gain.

  • @zakuraayame5091
    @zakuraayame5091 5 років тому +54

    5:20 Will the smaller version be called IceDwarf?

  • @andretrujillo
    @andretrujillo 4 роки тому +15

    Haha, saw that Thermodynamics image at 1:53 and immediately recognized the book that image was taken from and remembered my Thermodynamics engineering lessons with that same book here in Panama 😍. Nice ride through memory lane, I really remember seeing that same image as it was yesterday. Thanks Linus 🤓

  • @matiaskauppinen21
    @matiaskauppinen21 5 років тому +248

    Me: Finally upgrades from air cooling to water cooling.
    Linus: Water cooling is dead.
    Me: Please say sike right now

    • @Sarkkoth
      @Sarkkoth 5 років тому +4

      I felt the same way when I finally upgraded to 1080p monitors lol.

    • @Troint
      @Troint 5 років тому +15

      Fan cooling is better than water so you downgraded.

    • @imaginarychip4916
      @imaginarychip4916 5 років тому

      @@Sarkkoth
      Im goong to upgrade to 1080p 144hz lol
      2k doesn't matter that much bit frames will make u better at games

    • @TheRealNeoFrancois
      @TheRealNeoFrancois 5 років тому +1

      Ehh water-cooling is a downgrade from air anyways

    • @MrLionniol
      @MrLionniol 5 років тому +1

      You fucked up if you thought watercooling is a performance upgrade. Aesthetic wise, it's a major upgrade.

  • @anidiotontheinternet3514
    @anidiotontheinternet3514 5 років тому +456

    *remembers when you didn't even need a fan* edit:holy crap what happened here

    • @gmtv_levi8113
      @gmtv_levi8113 5 років тому +38

      Ethan Caston i opende my cousins old pc it had 512mb ram and no cooler 😂

    • @JP-wm1cc
      @JP-wm1cc 5 років тому +8

      Ahhh the good old DOS days.

    • @Mad---Max
      @Mad---Max 5 років тому +15

      Yeah, my first 3 GENERATIONS of computers did not even needed a heatsink:
      1 - ZX-80 based
      2 - i286-12
      3 - Am386DX-40
      only 4th was using heatsink but still no fan 4 - Am486DX4-100
      And each of them was FEW TIMES faster than previous.

    • @kadelarson2535
      @kadelarson2535 5 років тому

      There are new Dell Latitude 3190 laptops that have no fans.

    • @cboscan1
      @cboscan1 5 років тому +3

      @@kadelarson2535 But can it run bf4?

  • @Firethorne
    @Firethorne 5 років тому +517

    “Kinda bulky?” What is your criteria for “really bulky?”

    • @matvex829
      @matvex829 5 років тому +50

      Obviously a bit bulkier than kinda bulky.

    • @jessicacorr9150
      @jessicacorr9150 5 років тому +11

      U never seen his homemade subzero kit

    • @Skelath
      @Skelath 5 років тому +1

      RAM clearance?

    • @niq872
      @niq872 5 років тому +8

      considering they had a whole room water cooling i would say they would consider a car radiator really bulky

    • @photonboy999
      @photonboy999 5 років тому +3

      @@Skelath ,
      52mm
      www.icegiantcooling.com/prosiphonelite
      Linus talks about the dimensions as if it's uncertain yet they show the final specifications and are talking preorders so I'm not sure what's going on there... also the WEIGHT is similar to a Noctua NH-D15 (both with fans)

  • @corentinnaisse5350
    @corentinnaisse5350 4 роки тому +1

    Actually, any heatpipe can work as a thermosiphon. You just need to put it vertically and gravity will help the wick or grooves (you don't always need a wick, only a profile with enough capillary pressure) to achieve higher flow. Also, the absolute best solution to cool a CPU while limiting the weight on the CPU/motherboard is a loop heat pipes where you put the evaporator on the CPU (with a reservoir and a wick) and the condenser in a separate radiator with fans (the two being linked by pipes like in a liquid water cooled loop). This is basically how we cool down the electronic of every spacecrafts (minus the fan obviously as we are limited to radiative cooling at the radiator side). Source : I'm an engineer at Euro Heat Pipes.

    • @estbadarse
      @estbadarse 4 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure that the "loop" technology used in this product is that same as what can be found in the NoFan CR95a, and the NoFan CR80eh
      "By making the pipe very small, natural perpetual circulation of the liquid inside takes place, and heat is efficiently dissipated into the attached heatsink fins"

  • @jimr8552
    @jimr8552 5 років тому +485

    Seems like that would warp the board too over time.

    • @kionera96
      @kionera96 5 років тому +46

      I suppose you could just orient your pc to make it face upwards to avoid that, the final version should cut down on the weight too.

    • @smileyguyz
      @smileyguyz 5 років тому +28

      @@kionera96 and possibly add reinforcements that screw into the case

    • @colinjava8447
      @colinjava8447 5 років тому +38

      More like warp space and time itself

    • @ObscuraEND
      @ObscuraEND 5 років тому +19

      linus said that its still a prototype and that the final product may be slimed down to a third of that size

    • @lightarmanov6266
      @lightarmanov6266 5 років тому

      @@ObscuraEND if they want the same performance it is likely to be the same wait tho I recon

  • @suncoastbart
    @suncoastbart 5 років тому +96

    October of 2019: Finally I get water cooling
    December of 2019: Linus, ‘water-cooling is dead’
    😭

    • @dorian.u
      @dorian.u 5 років тому +2

      R.I.P

    • @TheTozotube
      @TheTozotube 5 років тому +1

      its still great man, but i feel you. I just installed my nearly 200$ AIO yesterday.

    • @thomaskwan3763
      @thomaskwan3763 5 років тому

      @@TheTozotube unless your running threadripper. So is still the way to go.

    • @woestewouter96
      @woestewouter96 5 років тому +5

      Cool that CPU with your tears

    • @TheTozotube
      @TheTozotube 5 років тому

      @@thomaskwan3763 Hello Thomas, my name is also thomas. And nah, I have the new 3950x. AMD recommends water cooling for it, so that's what I went with.

  • @Definitely_the_best
    @Definitely_the_best 5 років тому +805

    Pfff . Come on man , we both know that is next generation is : Сoolant system based on . . . GAMER GIRL BATH WATER .

    • @littlerhino2006
      @littlerhino2006 5 років тому +11

      Who let Eugene in?

    • @dimondlord11
      @dimondlord11 5 років тому +8

      Carful he might go for the Ak in the backpack

    • @dimondlord11
      @dimondlord11 5 років тому +3

      U and I we are cool right eugene

    • @tommybreden8800
      @tommybreden8800 5 років тому +3

      dimondlord11 Karen took the kids

    • @dimondlord11
      @dimondlord11 5 років тому +3

      No you can't see my manager

  • @crlzlo6996
    @crlzlo6996 4 роки тому +5

    I love how Linus explains everything thinking I would understand

  • @saultube44
    @saultube44 5 років тому +223

    We're getting slowly to the point of:
    - This is the fastest most cores CPU on the World
    - what are those? *points fridge size things*
    - those? those are the cooler

    • @petrjanousek7613
      @petrjanousek7613 5 років тому +8

      Seems like you havent ever seen any bigger server room :-) pretty common that cooling is way bigger than the rest

    • @saultube44
      @saultube44 5 років тому +6

      @@petrjanousek7613 I meant for PCs, I have seen many server rooms in many documentaries on YT

    • @thebloxxer22
      @thebloxxer22 5 років тому +1

      Quantum Computing?

    • @shadebinder9969
      @shadebinder9969 4 роки тому +1

      They're like the reverse of computers as a whole. Started at room size and now smart watches has tens of thousands of times the storage and processing power on your wrist.

    • @ETtheOG
      @ETtheOG 4 роки тому

      pretty sure there are computers that use liquid nitrogen cooling, wonder how much replenishing the liquid nitrogen must cost tho

  • @typhoonsd9720
    @typhoonsd9720 5 років тому +33

    I like that the rear fan is almost full blocked off, and close to being useless. Now I want a CPU cooler as large as a Full Tower case. Just to cool my single CPU.

    • @winngedhussarmalaka7685
      @winngedhussarmalaka7685 5 років тому +1

      Or make the case be the cooler

    • @louiefriesen
      @louiefriesen 5 років тому +2

      What CPU? AMD or Intel should make CPUs that have a built-in cooler that makes you worry about the CPU freezing rather then overheating!
      If I ever went to Antarctica, I'd bring my Gaming PC/Hackintosh, but no fans, because I'd just put it outside in that water/dust proof case... Maybe some penguin-proof DP and HDMI cables and a penguin-proof power cable would be a new good idea... LTT's new video: $1001 Penguin Proof HDMI Cable! What Next?

  • @kilerstarr5564
    @kilerstarr5564 5 років тому +106

    Can't wait to put another computer case inside my computer case.

    • @soupwizard
      @soupwizard 5 років тому +12

      Yo dawg, I heard you like computer cases...

    • @auturgicflosculator2183
      @auturgicflosculator2183 5 років тому +1

      and then mount your computer case inside a Caselabs tower, and mount that inside a server rack.

    • @happywhale1786
      @happywhale1786 5 років тому

      genius

  • @sherwoac
    @sherwoac 3 роки тому +2

    you guys should abstract this process and use a CPU shaped hotplate with variable heat output, in a case (if you really want), just to see which of these coolers really moves the most heat.

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 5 років тому +103

    When I was in my teens without money my method of cooling my home built PC was a giant box fan strapped to the side. It..... Kinda helped. lol

    • @goldchris1111
      @goldchris1111 5 років тому +16

      i have a kirkland industrial fan that is around 15 years old that i put a sheet of galvanised metal around it in a cone fasion then ducktaped the open end to the rear of my pc where the fan is so it suctions out the hot air, been doing this for years now and never bought aftermarket cooling for the pc, currently using a vega 56 and a 2700x stock air cooling. Only thing that is a catch is i forgot to put the IO shield in before the motherboard so i just ducktaped over the open hole and remove ducktape if i need to use a port on the mobo. For my next build i hope i remember to put in the io shield

    • @damnlogin
      @damnlogin 5 років тому +9

      @@goldchris1111 Glad to see i wasn't the only sketch engineer growing up. I removed the side panel and attached a old slim box fan from Costco with door hinges. I also taped on used fabric softener sheets on the intake side of the fan to reduce dust. Ghetto AF haha

    • @Heroinexoxo
      @Heroinexoxo 5 років тому +1

      I'm still doing this right now for my 2080Ti blacks.
      Two in NVlink in a Lian Li case = horrid temp issues.
      And it does not matter the spacing of the cards, which card is being used as a primary card, etc.
      The heat is just ridiculous.
      Box fan does a good job keeping them at low temps until I can get proper water cooling.

    • @Practicality01
      @Practicality01 5 років тому +1

      Box fan is really effective for reducing the ambient temp. It's just 100 watts running a large surface at a low speed instead of the same on a small fan at high speed, which is what you need to cool the individual components.

    • @malisa71
      @malisa71 5 років тому +1

      @@goldchris1111 any pic?

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol 5 років тому +12

    Linus: Water Cooling is dead.
    JayzTwoCents: We will see about that!!!!

  • @DJGuppy321
    @DJGuppy321 5 років тому +47

    1:48 ayyy, that was my heat transfer book back when I took that class.

    • @MichaelJCaboose013
      @MichaelJCaboose013 5 років тому +3

      Right? He started to say "Well, couldn't you just make the fins longer?" and I knew right where it was going! I was actually awake that day in thermo xD

    • @iscrewy
      @iscrewy 5 років тому +1

      Lol neeeerd

    • @HoloScope
      @HoloScope 5 років тому

      @@iscrewy and you're a dumbass

    • @POLARTTYRTM
      @POLARTTYRTM 5 років тому

      @@HoloScope Make sure you are using correct grammar when you are calling someone "dumb".

    • @emilfurman5319
      @emilfurman5319 5 років тому

      You're*
      Made yourself look stupid there

  • @biscut8650
    @biscut8650 4 роки тому +7

    Imagine you hear a loud bang from the pc and it goes off. Turns out the processor and the socket tossed out

  • @Skopin
    @Skopin 5 років тому +55

    I'm curious as to how well it would perform/noise levels if you swapped out the fans for some Noctuas.

    • @dabmasterson145
      @dabmasterson145 5 років тому +6

      I have 6 Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 140mm and 3 Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 120mm, so It is loud as all hell if you don't pwm it. it's like a jet engine on my desk at full rpm LOL

    • @DekarNL
      @DekarNL 4 роки тому +1

      @@dabmasterson145 pretty sure he did not mean 3k rpm fans. This should work great with some silent 800 rpm fans. Or maybe even fanless.

    • @dabmasterson145
      @dabmasterson145 4 роки тому +3

      @@DekarNL Well regardless I have already ordered my IceTitan. So looking forward to this

    • @DekarNL
      @DekarNL 4 роки тому +1

      @@dabmasterson145 sweet! Enjoy man.

    • @m_tpa
      @m_tpa 4 роки тому +2

      depends a lot on how hot your cpu really gets under load (hint: its not defined by the tdp), and what kind of load youre running irl

  • @EvilTaiga
    @EvilTaiga 4 роки тому +141

    When they get bigger, we build the PC in the cooler xD

    • @lungshenli
      @lungshenli 4 роки тому +3

      I mean all-silent PCs usually use the aluminium case as a heatsink so yeah. its a pc in a huge heatsink

    • @yuutonosuri772
      @yuutonosuri772 4 роки тому

      They already did with oil

  • @glutenfreegam3r177
    @glutenfreegam3r177 5 років тому +21

    BEST LTT vid in a LOOOOOOONG time! Reminds me of the old Linus! More with this style..please. I will even watch the commercials!

  • @SeattleShelby
    @SeattleShelby 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for explaining fin efficiency to the masses. I'm a mechanical engineer, or a "thermal" engineer as you put it (there's no such thing as a thermal engineer).

  • @bigdaz7272
    @bigdaz7272 5 років тому +19

    The 'passive' version sounds really interesting for gamers who want great cooling without a Jet Engine next to them.

    • @Blei1986
      @Blei1986 5 років тому

      check this out: Scythe Ninja 5
      i equipped my rig with it (9700K) and it's so damn quiet and effecient
      even under load my rig makes barely any sound...
      jet engines are from the past, dude

    • @somethingtrulyhorrifying
      @somethingtrulyhorrifying 5 років тому +1

      Guys just wear headphones while gaming like you're supposed to and let the rig prepare for lift off.

    • @TheUltimateBlooper
      @TheUltimateBlooper 5 років тому +1

      @@somethingtrulyhorrifying some of us have great sound systems and we like to feel the woofers work. Cans just don't cut it.

    • @somethingtrulyhorrifying
      @somethingtrulyhorrifying 5 років тому

      @@TheUltimateBlooper spoken like a person that's never experienced the power of my Sony XB700's.

    • @Notius
      @Notius 5 років тому

      If you're running a threadripper at 380+tdp you should expect some level of noise. Linus did mention there would be a version for non-HEDT platforms, possibly fanless.

  • @foodforthought7810
    @foodforthought7810 5 років тому +6

    Client: My computer stopped working!
    Me: Motherboards aren't supposed to be L-shaped...

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 5 років тому +149

    So, that is an aircooler, with a more advanced heat pipe system.

    • @joshanonline
      @joshanonline 5 років тому +18

      A passive Liquid Cooler without Water or pump, and closer to the CPU. A liquid cooler could perform better, but they need to find a better heat conductor than Water and do something about the poor air flow of the tiny radiator.

    • @davidhodge0201
      @davidhodge0201 5 років тому +8

      I wouldn't call it advanced. It really old technology, just put into something new. Honestly in an extreme scenario it still wouldn't beat a custom loop. Then again that scenario may not exist at this time either.

    • @brynclarke1746
      @brynclarke1746 5 років тому +6

      @@joshanonline You'd be hard pressed to find a liquid with better specific heat at room temperature than water, plus it is what the thermosiphon uses (I think) so that'd be more apples-to apples anyway

    • @alexanderdaum8053
      @alexanderdaum8053 5 років тому

      @@brynclarke1746 The thermosiphon won't be using water, it needs a liquid that boils at the typical temperatures you reach in the cooler, then condense on the fins. So the boiling point of that liquid will probably be around 40-60°C

    • @youtuberschannel12
      @youtuberschannel12 5 років тому +1

      Time to put this on on a GPU as well!

  • @YodaWhat
    @YodaWhat 4 роки тому +1

    If the cooler is doing a phase change under vacuum, it is still a heatpipe. In this case, it is the old-fashioned _gravity return_ fluid, but it is still a heatpipe. The thermosiphon variation is nice, but it is NOT the kind used in the old automotive cooling system picture.

  • @uss_04
    @uss_04 5 років тому +10

    07:44
    Nothing in my life has prepared me to see the words “Fail.” Next to a noctua cooler

  • @takumifujiwara300
    @takumifujiwara300 5 років тому +12

    Meet the Thermasiphon.
    MyRGB ram: ight imma head in

  • @shankypanky8879
    @shankypanky8879 5 років тому +207

    Best CPU Cooler: Removing the case lid and turning the A/C in its direction.
    Poor ppl would understand.

    • @MyNameIsBucket
      @MyNameIsBucket 5 років тому +26

      Putting the computer in the A/C cage in the window on your 5th floor apartment.
      Your move.

    • @dan2800
      @dan2800 5 років тому +5

      just go to siberia

    • @jcruzpt
      @jcruzpt 5 років тому +23

      Poor people don't even have AC they(me) use a normal fan 😄

    • @troyvzwky
      @troyvzwky 5 років тому +15

      @Ian Visser That's something that I don't fully understand. Cases with side fans (as large as 200mm) had become common place for a few years back in the day, but seem to be all but completely dead now. I get that tempered glass became a thing, but it seems there'd still be a market for people who care less about glorious displays of rgb and more about keeping gpu thermals low.

    • @ericchandler90
      @ericchandler90 5 років тому +2

      @Ian Visser
      That's a good set-up, however I'm lazy and prefer a box fan near the case.

  • @viperhalfdragon
    @viperhalfdragon 4 роки тому +1

    it really means a lot to see a youtuber wear a poppy

  • @landoishisname
    @landoishisname 5 років тому +279

    I imagine a lot of the bulkiness is hiding their engineering

    • @Cloudmaster1511
      @Cloudmaster1511 5 років тому +13

      nah. it is the cooling because its like with heatpipes. all the heattransfer is nothing without big cooling fins

    • @kugelblitzingularity304
      @kugelblitzingularity304 5 років тому +1

      Why tho when they gon sell it for everyone to rig later anyways?

    • @qwormuli77
      @qwormuli77 5 років тому +2

      @@kugelblitzingularity304 The word "sell" is the reason...

    • @kiyoponnn
      @kiyoponnn 5 років тому

      @lando Your ignorance is cringy AF

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld 5 років тому +1

      Yeah. Bulkiness. Now, imagine with RGB lighting.

  • @AmyGrrl78
    @AmyGrrl78 5 років тому +4

    With that large surface area on top, it would be really awesome if they added a LED Panel. Could display lots of system stats, have interesting patterns, images, and videos cycle on it. Maybe even use it as a small screen for playing games or movies. Watch a movie while playing a game on your main monitor.

  • @asa-od9pu
    @asa-od9pu 5 років тому +145

    “Dope as hell” -The kids

    • @sercider
      @sercider 5 років тому +6

      That was very cash money of you, thanks

    • @O4KAST
      @O4KAST 5 років тому +1

      dope as all hell*

    • @Mp57navy
      @Mp57navy 5 років тому

      ./r/fellowkids

  • @malikto1
    @malikto1 4 роки тому

    No issue with weight when used on a horizontal MB mount case. They are big boxes but if you have the room.

  • @andrewnelson3823
    @andrewnelson3823 5 років тому +41

    Linus: Water Cooling is dead.
    JayzTwoCents: Allow me to introduce myself.

    • @harrypotter2768
      @harrypotter2768 5 років тому +1

      JayzTwoCents:ln2!!!!!!!

    • @Jaymobe07
      @Jaymobe07 5 років тому +5

      Jay has even said that water cooling, for the most part, is a hobby/aesthetics thing now.

    • @titytitmk2738
      @titytitmk2738 5 років тому

      @@Jaymobe07 Watercooling gives consistent lower temps than air cooling, if done correctly.