Max Payne | A Complete History and Retrospective

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  • @YourFavoriteSon1
    @YourFavoriteSon1  3 роки тому +244

    What is your favorite Max Payne game Dad? 🔫🔫🔫

    • @learnedeldersofteemo8917
      @learnedeldersofteemo8917 3 роки тому +55

      The Fall of Max Payne

    • @YourFavoriteSon1
      @YourFavoriteSon1  3 роки тому +14

      @@learnedeldersofteemo8917 good answer 😎

    • @billmozart7288
      @billmozart7288 3 роки тому +20

      I remember being completely blown away by the first one when I was a teenager, but I played 2 the most. Never played Max Payne 3

    • @Maggerama
      @Maggerama 3 роки тому +14

      Played through the first one, like, 20 times, maybe more. Half of it - in a row. I hated Max's new face and stupidly despised the sequel for it, but came to my senses later and started despising it for replacing the revenge plot with some banal love shenanigans. Then, I came to my senses again, realizing that it was a better fit, they couldn't just repeat the same premise, after all. And the gameplay was good. As for the third one, I was a little bit irritated with how often they took control over Max away from me to show their 'cinematics', but not too much. Anyway, I got too far on Hard, and around 7 hours in, the game became unbearably painful to play. I've swallowed a lot of one-shot headshots, but I couldn't make myself swallow my pride and switch to Normal, so I just stopped playing instead. Maybe I'll go back to it one day when I'm off the cooldown. Vented for a bit, sorry. Whew! Now that everyone knows but not necessarily cares what I think about the series, I can watch the video in peace.

    • @TheGrimAlliance11
      @TheGrimAlliance11 3 роки тому +18

      I gotta go with Max Payne 1. The game I think of whenever I hear pills rattle or wake up to a crying baby.

  • @kallonist
    @kallonist 11 місяців тому +227

    Rest in Peace, James McCaffery. A iconic performance, and a hell of a guy.

  • @penyuwan
    @penyuwan 3 роки тому +203

    The vocalist for Poets of the Fall. Marko Saaresto is Vlad in the comic cutscenes for the first game. Him and Sam Lake are childhood friends.

  • @andersonsteelrod8121
    @andersonsteelrod8121 2 роки тому +745

    I always loved that the difficulty spike in max Payne never came from bullet sponges but the enemies becoming better equipped and smarter

    • @YourFavoriteSon1
      @YourFavoriteSon1  2 роки тому +60

      Amazing

    • @recordbum
      @recordbum 2 роки тому +34

      Max payne 1 last levels are quite challenging

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 2 роки тому +24

      I wish I could play MP1 for the first time again. I blaze through Hard Boiled, side rolls are too good.

    • @d117z
      @d117z 2 роки тому +26

      That feeling when you walk into a new room for the first time and immediately get shot by a new weapon you didn’t know was in the game. Yeah…you will never play max payne for the first time again.

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 2 роки тому +15

      @@d117z It's actually like shit your pants scary when out of nowhere you eat buckshot point blank, red flash and you're dead.

  • @dragomirbogdan3876
    @dragomirbogdan3876 2 роки тому +329

    When I first heard Max calling the sex talking line just so he can speak to someone, I literally busted in tears. He is such a tragic character. He won against the bad guys but lost himself and lost the battle with life.

    • @patron6666
      @patron6666 Рік тому +1

      This nigga crying over a video game character😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @abramsullivan7764
      @abramsullivan7764 7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah there's even comic books about his childhood, his life as a NYPD officer, how he met Michelle, and his baby name.

  • @kjreddragonwilliams27teku10
    @kjreddragonwilliams27teku10 11 місяців тому +84

    I can't believe The voice of Max Payne James McCaffrey have passed away........ I feel like New Remake of Max Payne ain't going to be the same without him in it.....
    RIP James McCaffrey for ours childhood........ 💔

    • @qu1v3r
      @qu1v3r 11 місяців тому +7

      @@gordonramsay6286AI wouldn't feel very right and that would piss a lot of people off. I think them reusing voice lines from the original would be a safer route.

    • @Aidan-mt6cl
      @Aidan-mt6cl 9 місяців тому +7

      Maybe he already recorded all the voice lines, i hope so anyway

    • @SlurpyPie
      @SlurpyPie 6 місяців тому

      @@Aidan-mt6cl I hope so too. He was the soul of Max imo so it just wouldn't hit the same without him for me at least. RIP James McCaffrey ❤

  • @learnedeldersofteemo8917
    @learnedeldersofteemo8917 3 роки тому +532

    I used to date a chick with the surname Payne and we would joke we would call our son Max, well 15 years later she had a baby and called him Maximilian, do not know if he has her surname tho 😅

    • @Supreme0757
      @Supreme0757 Рік тому +18

      Lol that’s amazing

    • @learnedeldersofteemo8917
      @learnedeldersofteemo8917 Рік тому +6

      @@Supreme0757 Yeah still makes me laugh!

    • @augustcziesch5556
      @augustcziesch5556 Рік тому +11

      y’all must’ve split on good terms 🫣

    • @learnedeldersofteemo8917
      @learnedeldersofteemo8917 Рік тому +74

      @@augustcziesch5556 Indeed we did, what worked was going no contact as we did still have mutual feelings for each other but basicly grew apart and wanted different things in life. We have talked twice in 16 years just by bumping into each other randomly (we live in separate countries now), We just hope each other are happy and have a hug goodbye.

    • @iwuvu5940
      @iwuvu5940 Рік тому +8

      That’s a good story

  • @dannydropshot9588
    @dannydropshot9588 11 місяців тому +45

    Rest in peace James McCaffrey 💔 I’m replaying through the series and just started the first one the other day and finding this out bummed me out so bad but now I wanna play em even more.

  • @Kickinthescience
    @Kickinthescience 3 роки тому +106

    Max Payne 2 still got one the coolest reload animations in gaming history

  • @Maggerama
    @Maggerama 3 роки тому +111

    I loved a lot of things about the video, but most of all - how you've pointed out that it's poetic, yet no words are wasted. This is the vital point and a great skill that distinguishes good writing from mere graphomania.

  • @enokdnb7388
    @enokdnb7388 3 роки тому +405

    Dude, you absolutely deserve more viewers. I appreciate the hell out of your effort here!

  • @biohazarduncovered
    @biohazarduncovered Рік тому +126

    I'm glad they gave Max a good ending, he's been through so much, to see him actually walk off into the sunset was gratifying.

    • @SoullessAIMusic
      @SoullessAIMusic 9 місяців тому +3

      i heard they may be working on a max payne 4. Not sure how I feel about that.

    • @biohazarduncovered
      @biohazarduncovered 9 місяців тому +1

      @jamesesparza6893 I did as well I feel the same way as you, on one hand I'm interested to see how they'd handle him getting into another mad situation but on the other hand I like where MP3 left it and don't want them to ruin it.

    • @bipstymcbipste5641
      @bipstymcbipste5641 7 місяців тому

      Max Payne 2 was a good ending tho. He made peace with his past

    • @biohazarduncovered
      @biohazarduncovered 7 місяців тому +2

      @bipstymcbipste5641 Yea but was still tortured either way as he lost Mona, it completed the arc from Max Payne 100% with Woden etc but still didn't resolve anything with him as a character just left us wondering what would happen to him in the future, Max Payne 3 delved into what he'd been up to after two and was pretty much a strait drunk and pill addict still, doesn't seem like he resolved much tbh or found any sort of redemtion, MP3 had him go from shooting that wise guy and escaping New York to Brazil doing the jobs for the family and dealing with the events of MP3 and the whole conspiricy events that by the end of the game he gets that redemtion for himself, he's literally been through Hell three times by that point and barely survived, Max Payne 3 having some of the series rawest events, so it felt gratifying to see him finally at peace with himself, that's my take on it anyway, I think Max had killed so many people by that point he was fed up and tired and just wanted some peace.

  • @Cixelated
    @Cixelated 2 роки тому +140

    Not gonna lie; I literally cried when TEARS came on in Max Payne 3 because I knew exactly what it meant to Max in that moment.

    • @Cixelated
      @Cixelated 2 роки тому +26

      Also: for context I lost my dad in like 2004 when I was 11 and when this game came out in 2012 I was barely a man who even knew how to grieve him and it was so sudden that the lyrics and his redemptive arc hit me like a ton of bricks.

    • @Originalstrangeface
      @Originalstrangeface Рік тому +8

      I thought I was the only one, lost a lot in my life at the time I played it, something just clicked the song was perfectly placed in game and in life

    • @godson200
      @godson200 Рік тому +1

      But did the gunfight really mean anything to him?

    • @Cixelated
      @Cixelated Рік тому +11

      @@godson200 yeah, he's killing the guy who killed someone he was supposed to protect. It's a mirror of him not being able to get revenge for his wife and daughter dying. It's a retread, but it just shows he hasn't really learned to move on.

    • @godson200
      @godson200 Рік тому +1

      @@Cixelated maybe yeah it is an mirror. But I kind of didn't feel max really cared about the brancos who he was supposed to defend and bodyguard. The emotion wasn't there. Yes there is a parallel to his wife but it just didn't give me the same feel.
      Max just didn't care. His boss died. People related to the boss who were kidnapped either died or were irrelevant(paasos gf). The emotion kind of went missing in this story
      And it could have been a lot better. Also when he figures out that dude is going to do organ harvesting he kills him by the end of that chapter. So that's that..but the final boss doesn't even mean that much to max. Typical of Max Payne tho. Even in the first game, Nicole Horne wasn't related at all untill the last 4-5 chapters.
      Max Payne always tends to have a good plotline near the starting and rather abrupt and not so linear endings with the main characters being introduced near the ending

  • @madwolfdrawing
    @madwolfdrawing 11 місяців тому +18

    RIP James McCaffrey thanks for being there as max when no one else was 💖 your legacy will live in our hearts forever as Max.

  • @jamesd7678
    @jamesd7678 2 роки тому +108

    Love how you guys also included the Max Payne movie. I feel like no one else includes alternate media (if it exists for said IP) in their game series reviews/retrospectives

  • @curryMan221
    @curryMan221 2 роки тому +30

    This game series has so much heart and soul that alot of games nowadays lack of. It's just non stop action, fun, and a amazing story

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 2 роки тому +6

      Max Payne was a passion project from start to finish. I really hope we go back to boundary pushing games someday, we've gotten really stagnant.

  • @arkhe1n107
    @arkhe1n107 3 роки тому +53

    Fun fact, Max Payne 1 was one of the very first games fully dubbed in Brazilian Portuguese. 2 and 3 weren't dubbed, unfortunately.

    • @davidnavarro4821
      @davidnavarro4821 2 роки тому +2

      I didn’t know there was a Portuguese dubbing for this game! The PS2 version gave a choice between English, French, Spanish or French. Neither the 2 or 3 got dubbed in other languages though

    • @Helsinki40268
      @Helsinki40268 Рік тому +17

      Kinda ironic that three takes place in Brazil

    • @AcidifiedMammoth
      @AcidifiedMammoth Рік тому

      ​@@Helsinki40268Exactly.

    • @pedrovictor4256
      @pedrovictor4256 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@Helsinki40268 we had Portuguese subtitles for MP3, I think is for the better that 3 didn't had a Portuguese dub for the English speaking characters because a major plot point is the fact that max is like a fish out of the water there because the language barrier

  • @DanielRodriguez-ow4wn
    @DanielRodriguez-ow4wn 3 роки тому +70

    Max Payne Series is truly an example that shows that video games can have a magnificent narrative; the story and progression are developed so well that this character could easily be in a top 5 best video game character of all times... Or rather, it should be; for me, and I think that most people who actually enjoy games with good narratives (who unfortunately are not too many) will agree as well, the character of Max Payne in the last game was handled in a quite disappointing way. It's very different from the previous games, and not in very positive way as you say; to make it short, it feels like he's a copy of John McClane from Die Hard, but a depressive one, like a gloomy American Hero; and that's quite the opposite from before. So yeah, the game's fun, it's pretty good on its own, but it isn't a Max Payne game for me; I stay with Max Payne 2 ending... And the easter egg from Alan Wake.

    • @jtsmelik1574
      @jtsmelik1574 2 роки тому +10

      Gotta disagree I think it’s logically the most realistic progression for max. Just wish it stayed in NY. But it was still great.

    • @turismofoegaming8806
      @turismofoegaming8806 2 роки тому +10

      @@jtsmelik1574 yeah because who wouldn’t have a bit of depression after going through everything he went through!!

    • @johnsnider2956
      @johnsnider2956 Рік тому +5

      I disagree. It makes sense that Max would be in the place he's in after the first two games, and it's the best in the series.

  • @ChefXAP
    @ChefXAP 3 роки тому +50

    But legit, amazing work, and Synopsis of this legendary series. The movie... We don't talk about the movie. It's mind-blowing you've done a video on my favorite series, legacy of kain...then, one on my second favorite, max payne...now if your next video is on resident evil, you are absolutely my son without a doubt. Or stalking me... Either way, yolo amazing content, brother lol. Keep it up, and I look forward to more of your work!

  • @johnnybensonitis7853
    @johnnybensonitis7853 2 роки тому +42

    "Hey Dad. It's me, your favorite son." I always feel like he's gonna follow this up with some bad news, like someone in the family has fallen ill.
    Just finished Max 3. Great finale!

    • @G-R-A-F-F
      @G-R-A-F-F Рік тому +3

      “Hey Dad, it’s me, your favorite son, uhhh mom died, I mean your first wife.”

  • @CC-8891
    @CC-8891 3 роки тому +66

    Max Payne 2 is my favorite for nostalgic reasons but I really liked the third as well. I thought he was going to die in the game, it made him feel irreparably broken but he found peace at the end. I thought it was a good was to finish the trilogy and I really liked the Hoboken levels. It was a nice trip down memory lane.

    • @winlover37
      @winlover37 2 роки тому +10

      Hoboken was a treat, with the iconic jacket to boot. It was a nice tribute, Max Payne 3 was overall a great game with a lot of love and passion for the source material. Only issue was the classic rockstar on rails linearity that detracts.

    • @boomdaddycool4328
      @boomdaddycool4328 2 роки тому +9

      Max payne 3 is my favorite of them all, to me it is highly underrated and overlooked, it felt like it got set up to fail coming out between Red dead and GTA V 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @karlo9572
      @karlo9572 Рік тому

      To me the third didn’t feel like Max Payne didn’t even look like him

    • @sunsetman22
      @sunsetman22 Рік тому +2

      @@karlo9572 ironic since James McCaffrey himself portrayed Max in mocap, likeness and, of course, voice.

  • @sigmapopsical272
    @sigmapopsical272 2 роки тому +66

    Kinda deep
    But did anyone else play the trilogy, and find maxes trails and issues kind of insightful?
    It made me feel that whatever life throws at me, I can deal with it as long as I have a good set of witty one liners haha

  • @Irem-nd1nb
    @Irem-nd1nb 2 роки тому +6

    10:29 you got this part wrong. He doesn't call 911, the phone rings and he answers. On the line it's Nicole Horne asking "Is this the Payne residence?". She clearly does that to ensure that he's home and ready to see what's waiting for him.

  • @garysmith6218
    @garysmith6218 3 роки тому +28

    Excellent work. Easily on par with your Legacy of Kain documentary.
    I think one of the best touches in Max Payne 3 is the fact that he starts the game addicted to painkillers - presumably a consequence of having to eat so many to survive the first two games. It's a really clever blending of a game mechanic and the storyline.

  • @BigRighteousGameplayJewels
    @BigRighteousGameplayJewels 2 роки тому +29

    Max Payne 2 is 1 of my favorite games of all time... The story, the twists and turns, the emotion. Just an awesome game. Great vid!

  • @KanyeWestwasRight
    @KanyeWestwasRight 2 роки тому +8

    2:06 That was something about Max Payne 3 that I really appreciated. The language barrier that they put up for max and the player (unless they happen to speak Portuguese) really gave the story some depth and it made the situation feel real a lot of games and movies just have everyone speak English or they’ll make it very obvious what is being said but Max Payne 3 leaves you in the dark just as much as Max is. It gives that fish out of water story they’re telling legitimacy

  • @cipher2508
    @cipher2508 3 роки тому +113

    You're gonna earn yourself a LOTTA subscribers in the future if you keep steering like this...Love your analytical lens Son

    • @genogains3126
      @genogains3126 2 роки тому +1

      Facts! Impeccible research, and great narration I must say.

    • @NerroGatoFilms
      @NerroGatoFilms 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah definitely feel like you're at the start of a big channel to come. Makes a dad proud

    • @ryanlesner0000ninja
      @ryanlesner0000ninja Рік тому

      If you can take the drug and not lose your shit.
      You feel no fear, no hesitation and no pain.
      If it normal takes two bullets to kill you.
      It now requires four bullets to kill you.
      If your wearing body armor you are unkillable.

  • @ScorpionJC7
    @ScorpionJC7 2 роки тому +25

    I love the way you articulate yourself. The way these retrospectives that integrate objectivity, visceral, thoughtful, and personal reaction and analysis that make these videos so captivating. I’m ringing the bell!!!

  • @SammyRenard
    @SammyRenard 3 роки тому +24

    It still amazes me how good max payne still looks 20 years later

  • @barhoom990katon
    @barhoom990katon 2 роки тому +27

    I think when a game reflects its themes and character development in gameplay and world building over the course of 3 games is nothing short of genius.
    Max Payne as a series is just different, it feels special. It feels like it crosses the thin line of gaming being engineered entertainment and artistic expression, it’s fucking great!!!

  • @fonesrphunny7242
    @fonesrphunny7242 3 роки тому +47

    I played MP 1&2 and I've seen the movie, but being reminded of them right after each other I have to wonder: how do you make a movie that bad based on Max Payne? Even if it was its own thing, it's absolutely terrible. I seriously had to look up if Uwe Boll was involved just now. Shockingly he was not.

    • @logoutnexttime4883
      @logoutnexttime4883 2 роки тому +4

      A surprisingly faithful adaptation from Uwe Bill was his Postal (2007) movie

  • @HEARTSFORYOUGUYS.
    @HEARTSFORYOUGUYS. 11 місяців тому +8

    R.I.P JAMES MCCAFFREY AKA MAX PAYNE

  • @kelvottomatpelaajat3797
    @kelvottomatpelaajat3797 3 роки тому +56

    Max Payne 2 already gave Max Payne the ending he deserved.
    The proverbial light at the end of the tunnel when you beat the game on Dead on arrival.
    That is the true ending.
    ☝🏻😎

    • @Page_max
      @Page_max 3 роки тому +3

      When mona survives you feel complete happiness for the first time in the game.

    • @Lirka_906
      @Lirka_906 3 роки тому +9

      Agreed. MP2 had a real ending "I had a dream of my wife. She was dead. But it was all right." That is the moment Max was looking for. He might not have been happy again, but he finally got over it. And then in MP3 he is completely miserable again, and his entire character is like MP2 never happened. I loved the gameplay of MP3, but the story was more of a "what if" spinoff.

    • @tylercouture216
      @tylercouture216 3 роки тому

      That ending is so beautiful I love the part of the music theme that is playing when they are looking into each others eyes it's puts that knot in your throat depending how much special thing the game means to you

    • @dec2567
      @dec2567 3 роки тому +1

      Max payne 3 was just a dream

    • @hitmanmonaghan6633
      @hitmanmonaghan6633 2 роки тому +1

      Gotta say, I agree. After 2, his story was done. His arc was done.

  • @antialeks5013
    @antialeks5013 Рік тому +3

    56:05 "What has Max Payne ever done, but bring Max Pain?" would've honestly been a better line at this point

  • @puertolumbian316
    @puertolumbian316 2 роки тому +19

    This, just like the LoK retrospective and history, is absolutely incredible!! I can't imagine the amount of work you put into these videos, but it is VERY much appreciated. Keep it up, man!!

  • @mad-scientist6027
    @mad-scientist6027 2 роки тому +16

    There is an AI upscaled texture pack for Max Payne 1 available if anyone is thinking of replaying that game, that's neat :) There are some sound issues with that game, but there's a quick patch for that too.

  • @jonathanvasquez8027
    @jonathanvasquez8027 11 місяців тому +11

    Rip 🙏🏽 James McCaffrey

  • @TimmHenson
    @TimmHenson 2 роки тому +9

    The HEALTH soundtrack really adds to the cinema of the game. I'm glad you mentioned it.

  • @Hersendood
    @Hersendood Рік тому +5

    I have been playing Alan Wake. Hearing you talk about Max Payne 1, I thought a bit heavy on the metaphors. And wouldn't ya know it, the Sheriff tells Alan Wake that she likes his writing, "a bit heavy on the metaphors but pretty good". And that fits so perfectly with Alan being a metaphor for the team of Remedy and the story being about writing.

  • @dballls
    @dballls 11 місяців тому +9

    RIP James McCaffery

  • @scottypittman1
    @scottypittman1 2 роки тому +6

    This was an amazing video and I absolutely loved watching it. A little note on the endings of 2 however, I remember hearing somewhere that the ending where Mona survived is actually Canon. I don't really know if it's true but my sappy heart likes to think it is. Max has been through enough torment he deserves some brevity in the darkness. Either way, amazing work on the video my man and copyright be damned, it was still a good watch.
    Addendum: When you talked about what Late Goodbye meant to you it felt similar to how I felt about the game in general. My previous girlfriend took her own life about a year ago and I've been grieving ever since. When I played Max Payne 2, however, I really felt like I could put myself into Max's shoes, and it helped me with my own demons, and the final line about Max dreaming about his wife made me cry like a baby. I had the same feeling you did, just pertaining to my girlfriend. "If Max could get over losing his family, then I could get over my girlfriend." Just a thought I wanted to share. Thanks for listening son.

  • @dungeonsanddobbers2683
    @dungeonsanddobbers2683 2 роки тому +7

    "The Norse mythology references in Max Payne are subtle" and "the way weapons change the way you play was groundbreaking game design in 2001" are statements about the first game I _really_ have to disagree with. Max Payne practically beat you over the head with the references to Norse mythology, and ammunition supplies changing what weapons you used and pushing you towards certain playstyles had been a staple of FPS gameplay for, at least, as far back as Doom. What set the first game apart from its contemporaries was the bullet time mechanic helping the game emulate the style of Hong Kong action movies and The Matrix, and the way the game blended the noir genre with a mythological tale.
    Your theory about the "entire game being Ragnarock" isn't a theory, it's the the entire theme of the game. Max states at one point in the game that "There are only personal apocalypses" and, with all the connections to Norse mythology and Ragnarok, it's very clear that what's happening in the game is Max Payne's "personal apocalypse".

  • @azalea_k
    @azalea_k 3 місяці тому +1

    Late Goodbye still gives me chills. RIP James McCaffrey. Also, I can't wait for the forthcoming remakes of 1 and 2, and 3 isn't in my own head canon because of the lack of Remedy. So for me, Mona and Max are still out there in the darkest underbelly of NYC, somewhere.
    Surprised you didn't point out the specific line: "til in the John Mirra you stare at yourself grown old and weak", which goes directly with the ingame TV show, and Sam Lake wrote the song with Poets of the Fall, AKA the Old Gods of Asgaard.

  • @AJBuwalda
    @AJBuwalda 2 роки тому +3

    Did... Did you just refference my boy Take No Prisoners?! You earned yourself a sub for that alone. That you even know that game, since it was like a late 90's sleeper. I'm proud of you, son.

  • @TheT3rr0rMask
    @TheT3rr0rMask 2 роки тому +1

    MP1 might be my favorite game ever, even after 2 and 3 added so many refinements gameplay wise. I love 1's tactical edge, bits of resource management, and how random enemies react. Every single playthrough is different, and loading levels for fun and experimentation is unedningly addictive. The narrative as well. I get the flack it's nightmare trip levels get from a game design perspective but they grip and immerse me so much. I get chills every time. Overall it's narrative, despite not being as deep as 2, never ceases to blow me away.
    And thank you for pointing out all the Norse references, I'd never noticed it all or made the connections. This is honestly the best MP retrospective on youtube.

  • @giovahnnigucci409
    @giovahnnigucci409 2 роки тому +5

    Max Payne is seriously underrated!!! The storyline and everything is Oscar Worthy!!! Max Payne 1&2 we’re the best! Part 3 was ok, but it wasn’t on 1&2’s caliber

  • @bigfoottamer
    @bigfoottamer Рік тому +2

    one of the biggest details that alot of people miss in max payne 3 is at the very end there is no monologue, almost as if max is finally living in the present and not the past.

  • @AlphaYellow
    @AlphaYellow 2 роки тому +7

    Amazing documentary man. I absolutely love this series, and I think its atmosphere and tone has never been matched by any other game or series since then. Max Payne 1 is one of the best games ever made no doubt, nailed it in almost all aspects for its time, and its engine was ahead of competing ones

  • @aarseneau93
    @aarseneau93 3 роки тому +8

    i've watched the legacy of kain retrospective quite a few times - you really have something with these types of videos man, please keep your head up and keep making great content like that video and this one. i've really enjoyed your stuff!!

  • @KH0LRA
    @KH0LRA 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for making a video on this! Max Payne has held a special place in my heart and I think that you did an amazing job at covering everything. Its sad that Late Goodbye had to be copyrighted :(( The song and Poets of the Fall did an amazing job encapsulating the story. Flat out became a fan when I heard that song from them. Additionally, *big* kudos for dedicating your time to creating this video. Hopefully it gets the views it deserves!
    Edit: Thank you for opening my eyes to the deeper image of this series, especially with Max Payne 3 since its the only game that really gave me really complicated feelings because the different setting put me off at first. I ended up loving it eventually, and now I love it more. And yes, I concur that Max should really rest now. However, I wish they could just fix their ports because they all have problems in terms of trying to run for many people, including me. I really wanted to play Part 3 again but it sadly just broke out of nowhere for me :(( there was no fix I could find for it either

  • @roxasspyderfingers3799
    @roxasspyderfingers3799 3 роки тому +9

    By far the best retrospective I have ever watched, all the references and quotes, all the attention to the detail, you mentioned everything that needed to be noted. It was such a great watch to tune into. This kinda content means so much to gamers like myself, so mad support for all your hard work and effects @YourFavoriteSon. One of the best stories we our blessed with in video game media but I digress. This is one incredible watch nothing but love for the Payne

    • @YourFavoriteSon1
      @YourFavoriteSon1  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks dad!

    • @roxasspyderfingers3799
      @roxasspyderfingers3799 3 роки тому +3

      @@YourFavoriteSon1 this whole project was amazing man, it deff hit hard and very relatable, so keep up the amazing vids man. :D

  • @theshockmaster8071
    @theshockmaster8071 3 роки тому +8

    "You'll walk with a limp" is great line.

  • @rondorthecruel124
    @rondorthecruel124 2 роки тому +2

    The “mayor” note was indeed an indicator of the target, as when Max read the note it was narrated by Nicole Horne, the primary antagonist (but we did not know who she was yet). To me, this indicated that she was indeed pulling the strings of the entire Punchinello operation.

  • @Senseitional_comics
    @Senseitional_comics 3 роки тому +4

    Hey son! Been awhile since me and your mother have seen ya but glad you stopped by today. We love ya and keep doing what you are doing 👏 🧡

  • @Para2normal
    @Para2normal 3 роки тому +6

    This is just superb, you have made me care about a series of games I had previously not really cared about. Congratulations.

  • @Westfield813
    @Westfield813 2 роки тому +4

    Replayed Max Payne a couple of weeks ago, It’s a very melancholic experience that deserves its flowers, It’s definitely a classic.

  • @grimmquote6682
    @grimmquote6682 2 роки тому +2

    Max Payne one’s gameplay reminds me, in some ways, of Hotline Miami. You die a lot, but eventually you figure out a plan, which enemies to kill, when to kill them and how. And everything comes together in the end.

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 3 роки тому +3

    Man, you couldn't have picked a better series to cover. You are my favorite son after all

  • @emdelliki237
    @emdelliki237 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for making this, brother. Such a heartbreaking story that deserves to be told. Max's story still breaks my heart, both inside and out. I'm almost 40 now, and I still relate to the genuine sadness he feels for personal reasons. I'ma play it again now...

  • @westondavis1284
    @westondavis1284 2 роки тому +6

    Such an awesome video! Your going to be the next big thing in this genre. Thank you for taking the time to go back and go over such an amazing series!

  • @definitelynotmymain1808
    @definitelynotmymain1808 Рік тому +1

    That airport terminal scene with tears playing could absolutely play the way you wanted, that's how i sprint through it every playthrough lol.
    You just gotta zig zag around walls and break the enemies lines of sight.
    Tbh all of max payne 3 can be played that way.

  • @dp92492
    @dp92492 3 роки тому +7

    This is great, you have a new sub. I don’t know of many 20 year old games that have aged this well, in the case of the first MP.

  • @Itallcostsmoney
    @Itallcostsmoney Рік тому +2

    " "Nothing is cliche when it is happening to you." I could unpack that line for an hour." " - pure gold

  • @IllmatikRebelTV
    @IllmatikRebelTV 3 роки тому +5

    I love that song tears. I actually play that whole part mostly in infinite bullet time while gunning down everyone. Lol. It's just cinematic lol

  • @tthomaselli2
    @tthomaselli2 2 роки тому +2

    YourFavoriteSon- Nice parody of the graphic novel from 'Max Payne' at 48:05-49:02.
    It made me laugh when this video was first posted onto UA-cam in late-2021 & I still get a kick out of it, today...

  • @JohnDoe-uu6jl
    @JohnDoe-uu6jl 3 роки тому +8

    Excellent work these games have always meant a lot to me and you did then justice! Looking forward to more of your content.

  • @silentype3008
    @silentype3008 Рік тому +1

    UA-cam has recommended me a string of Max Payne retrospectives, and yours is by far the best.

  • @urlicqeldromamakolligjazva1752
    @urlicqeldromamakolligjazva1752 3 роки тому +10

    This came up so I subbed. Your take on legacy of kain was awesome. I'll watch it again, most probably another 5 times. Thanks

  • @Demnemonic
    @Demnemonic 2 роки тому +2

    "... When Mona came into his life, he saw something. He saw the only woman that would ever fit the broken puzzle piece, that he had become. He saw someone, dysfunction, broken; just like him. He couldn't let that slip away..."
    1:28:35
    @YourFavoriteSon That was a damn good bit of noir dialogue bro! Found you last night, Sub'd!

  • @amir-dl1om
    @amir-dl1om 2 роки тому +4

    Great job son, couldn't believe this was a small channel untill i double checked. Good luck with your journey. This one was awesome

  • @punishedbarca761
    @punishedbarca761 2 роки тому +1

    To add to The Late Goodbye: it's a reference to The Long Goodbye which is a deconstruction of the hardboiled Sam Spade trope the original Max was based on. That's why I love that they added it to Max Payne 2. Really ties the whole theme together conclusively.

  • @CChissel
    @CChissel 3 роки тому +3

    Amazing video, really enjoyed the style haha, fit the topic perfectly. I loved the Max Payne games, they were/are so good. Great work, looking forward to the next video!

  • @foxyshabazz
    @foxyshabazz 3 місяці тому +1

    Woden doesn't just sound like Odin, it is the Old English name for the god, and where we get Wednesday (Woden's Day) from.
    Damn, wasn't the bullet time just so much fun. I would often replay sequences multiple times doing that crazy sideways dodge thing over and over.

  • @dollypupu
    @dollypupu 2 роки тому +4

    Very good stuff, just finished your LOK retro, and as a hard core fan of LOK, you did it justice my man. Keep these up !

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames Рік тому +1

    You make a good point of there being no need for another game in the series. The story has been told and we don't need to see Max Payne become what John McClain did. What would be really cool now is to maybe remaster the older games (keeping the model style) and just making them available to actually run on modern software. If I can still play Doom and Wolfenstein in their original forms I should certainly be able to play Max Payne.

  • @KaloKross
    @KaloKross 3 роки тому +3

    cool videos dude, especially the last few, good work in general. audio balance and levels are nice, the voice work u do is solid. keep it up.

  • @JordanDCGehl
    @JordanDCGehl 2 роки тому

    Excellent review, son!
    I avoided MP3 due to reviews saying it was not a good Max Payne game. One of my biggest surprises ever happened when it became my favorite game of all time.
    Absolutely insane.

  • @charlesderosas5577
    @charlesderosas5577 2 роки тому +3

    I'm sad that Max payne 2 was never on PS online. That was probably the best sequel that should've ended there.

    • @pop000690
      @pop000690 10 місяців тому

      I kinda agree. While I like parts of 3 it feels too much of a detachment from the first two games

  • @SlimePays732
    @SlimePays732 Рік тому

    As a 8yr old kid in 2001 who threw a TV into a windowless storage basement at my mother's apt to play Max Payne until my eyes felt as if they were bleeding. Same with Max Payne 2 and waiting 2yrs after release of Max Payne 3 to finally get the chance to play it. I love this whole video, every bit of it was perfect for me. You took the feelings I felt about the series and put them into an explanation I understood and agreed with, thank you for the time you put into this.

  • @Wesblumarine
    @Wesblumarine 2 роки тому +3

    Wow! I just discovered your legacy of Kain and Max Payne video. Keep up the great job on these obscure video game retrospectives.

  • @jamesfoster1583
    @jamesfoster1583 3 роки тому +1

    I got hyped after the Kain video that you would keep up with these long, retrospectives. It’s like an event for me now and I really hope we get many more of these.

  • @cgibbs101231
    @cgibbs101231 2 роки тому +5

    Brilliant job on the video, throughly enjoyed the review of this classic series, keep it up 👍

  • @P4INKiller
    @P4INKiller Рік тому +1

    2:29:16 Son, your Max Payne statue is missing a glock in his right hand.

  • @jacob_swaggerz
    @jacob_swaggerz 3 роки тому +9

    I never played 3, it felt like too much of a reach and was reopening something that didn't need to be revisited.
    Story: Max Payne > Max Payne 2
    Gameplay: Max Payne 2 > Max Payne
    Doin' your old man proud lad. Great analysis and review

    • @theDiReW0lf
      @theDiReW0lf 3 роки тому +10

      You’re sadly mistaken. Loved 1+2 growing up but 3 is literally one of the best action games in history.

    • @tylercouture216
      @tylercouture216 3 роки тому +1

      @@theDiReW0lf definitely

    • @vaporsaver
      @vaporsaver 2 роки тому

      1 and 2 are good, but Max Payne 3 is damn good as well. Some of the best 3rd person shooting i've experienced. Top 3 easily.

  • @b1thearchitect401
    @b1thearchitect401 Рік тому +2

    I'll start off by saying I think Rockstar is generally pretty overrated, in contrast to Remedy who I believe is severely underrated; particularly in regards to storytelling (their open worlds & technology are groundbreaking though , I can't deny the fun I had in 80 hrs of Cowboy freeroam in RDR2).There's a lot of things the 3rd game does well, the core gameplay is awesome, the intro cinematic is amazing at showing the weight of Max's trauma, and the relatively happy ending is a much deserved send off to a character who essentially spent his entire adult life in a cycle of extreme depression and violence. However, what I miss the most in that game, is the amazing, sometimes tongue in cheek & sometimes genuinely profound film noir writing of the first 2 games. Max waxing poetic and philosophical about the nature of his existence, of violence, of revenge, of love, his guilt etc.. is what made him such a unique and amazing video game protagonist to me. He wasn't just a mindless angry dude out for vengeance, his pain pushed him inwards and made him examine his own mind and the nature of the world around him. The first 2 games feel like a meta-deconstruction of these kinds of revenge & detective stories, one where the protagonist is painfully self aware of his role in a horrible cycle of corruption and violence, with no way to veer off course. He surrenders to his horrible fate despite constantly questioning it. I think this makes him incredibly relatable and human despite being an unkillable god of destruction. Even the incredibly atmospheric nightmare sequences of the first 2 games managed to make gameplay out of Max's psychology. The 3rd game tried to trade this eloquent & poetic dialogue & surreal tone for gruff, depressed, alcoholic self loathing. I think it works at times, especially when it's played for dark humour, but it also lays it on incredibly thick and feels out of sync with the more philosophical and ponderous max of the first couple games. He still is self aware of his role in his hopeless situation, but his commentary on it feels like it's written in a far more juvenile & on the nose kind of way. Also the 3rd game's plot itself, is generally weaker and devolves into a really dumb & strangely self serious 80's action movie shit show in it's last couple levels, which IMO has a lot less charm than the film noir detective vibe of the first 2 games. Almost the entire story surrounding Max in the 3rd game is loaded with forgettable & poorly written villains, side characters etc.. that I couldn't give less of a shit about. The buddy cop thing leading to the betrayal was very predictable and obvious as well.. With that said, James' vocal performance in the 3rd game is great, & definitely elevates the dialogue and ties the series together as much as it can. I don't hate it as an overall send off to the series, especially because I dig the ending they gave Max; but it in no way captures the tone, atmosphere and writing quality of the first 2 games. I get that Rockstar didn't want to copy Remedy, and decided to take it in their own direction, I just generally find that direction to be a lot less unique & interesting. It would be like if David Lynch's Twin Peaks had the 3rd season directed by Quentin Tarantino, and instead of a self aware, complex, surrealist mind fuck; it was loaded with shootouts, sex & posturing. It's a MASSIVE shift in tone and even genre that doesn't sit right with me or stick to what made Max Payne great to begin with. With all that said, it has WAY better gunplay than the first 2 lol, so for gameplay focused people, I'd understand why MP3 would be your favourite! Even with all the flaws, I think the MP trilogy is one of the more consistently high quality in gaming history. For reference, my favourite of the 3 is the 2nd, by a long shot. It's funny, romantic, incredibly dark, haunting, surreal and features one of the best endings in gaming history IMO. Gameplay wise it might be the weakest of the 3 as the gunplay boils down to enter bullet time and go fucking nuts lol but even that is great mindless fun.

  • @montlejohnbojangles8937
    @montlejohnbojangles8937 3 роки тому +5

    I see absolutely huge growth in the future for this channel.

  • @Hordakkk
    @Hordakkk 3 роки тому +2

    the legacy of kain video was superb, but a MAX PAYNE video? yeah you have earned my sub! great work man!

  • @khyronbradford
    @khyronbradford 3 роки тому +3

    Amazing work that you put here. I frickin’ love MP3

  • @LlorDrei
    @LlorDrei Рік тому +2

    Comment on the dialogue about how the cover system in Max Payne 3 just didn't feel like his style.
    It needs to be remembered, up until the end of Max Payne 2, he had a death wish, plus he was younger, stronger, faster, had better vision, all that, and could do what he did.
    In Max Payne 3, he's older, slower, probably has hurts all over his body from his younger experiences, and, while still using alcohol and pain killers to try to hold back his inner demons, he no longer possessed the killer instinct of someone with a death wish.
    So, I believe the cover system makes sense for this phase of his life.

  • @EliTheGleason
    @EliTheGleason 2 роки тому +4

    Just found your channel thanks to the algorithm, love your content! I'm psyched you got picked up, gotta say tho I miss the hi dad intro x'3 I'd love to see some more of your video essay style content (like the more conceptual stuff like the anxiety vid) but honestly I just hope you are successful and happy with what you do

    • @YourFavoriteSon1
      @YourFavoriteSon1  2 роки тому

      The hi dad will always be there in some form haha, and once I get some more time I'll probably be bringing back the video essays in some form, whether here or on patreon. Thanks for the support dad!

  • @piyushgurung9690
    @piyushgurung9690 Рік тому +1

    "Late Goodbye"... Max Payne 2 brought me to POTF, and I can't thank this game enough for that... And yes, this song is Max Payne...

  • @AXL5221
    @AXL5221 11 місяців тому +6

    Rip James Mcaffery

  • @hakanlindgren2591
    @hakanlindgren2591 Рік тому +2

    U got the part about MP3 not being MP just right. I always disliked MP3 bc R* took away the grim noir setting. His self-hatred, drinking and taking pills still fit and was good, but not the rest. Now I've come to realise, the game is actually very good, but it's not a good MP-game. Which I can't forgive R* for.

  • @DarkGodJames
    @DarkGodJames 3 роки тому +5

    Holy shit, another banger my dude. Keep the good work

  • @chrisschuber9149
    @chrisschuber9149 2 роки тому +2

    Son, you know how Dad likes his Michael Mann movies. I love Max Payne 3, for all it's faults. I love the Action Movie thing of his costume getting bloodier and dirtier and by the end of the game his white shirt is completely brown, like a Die Hard movie. I love how he holds a long gun in one hand while shooting a pistol in the other.

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker 2 роки тому +4

    Whenever I play the *Max Payne* games…
    _It gave me some Punisher vibes, which is good._

    • @thecursingtax5729
      @thecursingtax5729 2 роки тому

      No it's like that for the 1st game when you have a shotgun

  • @RetroX-uu6cq
    @RetroX-uu6cq 2 роки тому +2

    It was avgn but now I fall asleep to your videos. Trust me it's a great honor

  • @elgoogkcuf
    @elgoogkcuf 3 роки тому +3

    you keep putting out content like this and your bound to explode. Great video!!!

  • @xfuturetrunksx6836
    @xfuturetrunksx6836 Рік тому +1

    Man i gotta say you have fucking ZERO reason to feel imposter syndrome, not only are your video scripts insanely thorough and deep but your dry humor jokes are legit funny as hell. Theres alot of people on youtube that should feel like an imposter but you brother are not one of them 👌

  • @lukascepanovic3609
    @lukascepanovic3609 3 роки тому +5

    Son, we're proud of you. Stay awesome, and keep doing what you're doing.
    Cheers!