Greg Doucette vs Mike Israetel - Is Mike Really Hurting Himself?
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- The fitness community is buzzing with the latest feud between Greg Doucette and Mike Israetel. Join Marc Lobliner as he dives into the intense debate over their differing fitness philosophies and the claims that Mike Israetel may be compromising his health with his current training and diet strategies. This video will dissect their arguments, explore the scientific basis behind their claims, and offer a balanced perspective on how these approaches could impact long-term health.
What You'll Learn:
Background of the Feud: Overview of how the debate between Greg Doucette and Mike Israetel started and the key points of contention.
Analyzing Claims: Examination of the specific claims made by both parties, particularly focusing on whether Mike Israetel’s methods could be harmful.
Health Implications: Discuss the potential health risks and benefits associated with the high-intensity training and diet regimens advocated by both fitness experts.
Expert Opinions: Insights from other fitness and health professionals on the impact of such training philosophies.
Marc’s Take: Marc Lobliner offers his own perspective based on years of experience in fitness and bodybuilding, providing viewers with practical advice on evaluating fitness advice.
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Many people stating that I’m claiming Mike is competing for money but it’s not true yet I literally showed video footage of him saying the only reason he competes is to show the world that his training techniques are marginally better than everyone else’s in order to sell more coaching programs
doesnt matter what trainin techniques if u have genetics like him, he has awful genetic. no V taper small shoulders bit gut lmao. also the more deeper is not always better he just wants to stand out for views
So?
Leave him alone, you're not swaying anyone's opinion.
Stop being a Canadian drama queen
I agree. The man has the bag
@@mohamadsorya6718 realistically, I don’t think he’s trying to “sway anyone’s opinion”. It’s called creating content. He’s in the fitness space. You know, that’s what they do. Create content.
@@mayorrodgers7446 justifying bad behaviors and examples is not a good stance.
Content can be done like Will Tennyson where it's informative and helpful, not some drama and cheap reactionary vids
Mike posted earlier today that he is not doing any more shows.
Woah, good work!
And hope all is well.
Greg your content has morphed into primarily discouraging gear use. Even when you were on that show about fat vs fit u turned it into a lesson about steroid abuse. The passion is in the right place but I think the lecturing is over the top. It's a bit dramatic. Trying to put out responsible content especially for the younger crowd but it's a bit beyond reality how far it's getting pushed IMHO you've made your point but it can be done responsibly and don't lecture some of the smartest people in the game.
@@runawayslave1087 exactly and I don't believe that Will Tennyson joker is drug free either and he just fear mongers and everyone seal claps for it, its super dull.
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Ya, we should just stop talking about it... keep going Greg.
@@runawayslave1087 My guess is that Greg feels the need to educate people on how damaging steroid abuse can be due to the way they’re being glamorized nowadays and how many young people are wanting to jump on before even remotely reaching their natural genetic potential
I appreciate the message. I’m not planning on competing in bodybuilding or anything like that but I been struggling lately with a lot of shit in my head and I really appreciate this post because I feel like someone out there understands my thought process and outlook on life
I don’t understand Mikes beef with Greg, it’s not like Greg is giving out bulllshit info and hating for no reason. He puts out valid points and speaks facts from a neutral viewpoint, he knows what he’s talking about when it comes to training and dieting and prepping for a show, it just seems like Mike just doesn’t want to acknowledge Greg
Love it. I think it's obvious that Mike is chasing a dream. He says it's for the RP app, but in many podcasts, he's also said that he wants to accomplish his dream of presenting a physique that he "transcendent" and he's truly proud of. And who are we to criticize a man giving it his all, especially Mike, who does it as smartly as one can. Thanks for the positivity.
That’s why I do it
I think Dr Mike is blowing up now and is trending in the fitness industry. Greg is finding all the flaws in Mike’s armor for more views. I’m not mad at Greg for it. When you put your business out on the Tubes, it’s open for anyone to critique it. I just think Greg is doing it for views which again I’m not mad at him for it. Do your thing bro…. Regardless of what Greg says or clickbait’s he post, Dr Mike is going to do his thing….. and that’s all right too. That’s just my opinion… and yes, the beard looks dope bro 🧔🏻👍🏼
Of course he is doing it for views, everyone makes videos for the views ...
Where did you get that shirt in the video?
Love em both but I’m with Greg on this one, Mike should quit and it seems that he has.
I know some people are divided on Dr Mike, but I’ve always really liked him. Also I had the RP women’s physique program back when it was just a big spreadsheet and PDF. It got me the strongest and leanest I’ve ever been!
Love the guy
New thumbnails and camera looking good
Do you have a link or a recommendation for a mic that is Bluetooth and works with iPhone for videos like this?
Beard is a good look. MTS rocks
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My issue with Mike is not that he uses Steroids. My issue is that he preaches to today's youth that Steroids are ok. People follow him blindly. He is a phenomenal trainer, but he is molding young minds, and many kids are hopping on cycles without ever even really giving real training a shot.
But full rom bro
He really isn’t pro steroids. Just because he tells you his steroid cycle doesn’t mean he is brainwashing children into taking it.
@aaronwilson8624 the dude literally said, "I look forward to the day when we don't have to workout, all our gains can come from a pill" quoted verbatim.
@@heynetalks you’re missing massive context here. I’ve seen this clip and he was talking about using retetraride for fat loss. Additionally, I believe if you also listen to any other interviews he has done you’ll hear that he is saying about choice - ie if you want to do it.
Mike is addicted man , he needs help don't try to defend someone who is addicted, they actually need your help not you licking him because he's your friend or something, Dr Mike needs rehab now 🤐
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Love the video man, and love all 3 of you! I’m glad you have good relationships with both Greg and Mike.
'steroid abuse not steroid use' say it louder for the people in the back. I love both Mike and Doctor Mike but really didn't like how they took Mike's extreme and painted that as the dangers of taking steroids full stop when the reality is Mike's regime is applicable to almost nobody else taking steroids. You wouldn't tell someone not to have a single poptart for breakfast because this other guy who eats 18 poptarts for breakfast is having health issues.
Good call out , compare to the Instagram stories, and other bad behavior that will shorten their lives and affect their families.
A man has to have something to work for to give him worth.
Great vid 💪. If i remember correctly i think mike said he wants to show off his "art" (his body and methods of bodybuilding) or something to that effect. Very good point about alcohol and partying and every1 turning a blind eye to that.
Rocking a beard?
Niice 😁
Stay blessed and godspeed Lobliners
Damn u was in maine, maybe 20 mins away from me. Shame u wasn't doing some kind of a meet and great or seminar. I'd have gone.
Family time!
He wants to- that's it. That's all the reason he needs
Mike should have done this in his prime, why chase a pro card now, and resk your health when you have already accomplished everything. He the one who said he don't care if he dies trying so abviously his family means nothing to him.
I was on Mike's side in this argument. If it makes him happy, and he knows the risks, let him do it!
LFG!
Honestly. Bodybuilding is generally a risky sport but no riskier than any other extreme sport, or even mainstream sports like football. Greg seems awfully judgmental towards his own kind.
@@WalterBernard-vm1rehuuuh? Not riskier than mainstream sport?? Are you high? You see soccer players dying like flies in the last 3 years? Probably even more in the amateur space
Greg bases everything off of money, not everyone else does. Mike is the man, leave him alone Greg
Everyone on UA-cam, is doing what there doing for money, and you would do the same thing. Majority of people on here, talk about the same thing feeds off every other, but when Greg does it, people like you have a problem, aleast he's honest and tell it like it is.
@@lorrainekentafari8696 No, not everyone is doing things for money. Greg is a snake oil salesman, figure it out faster than last time!
Chris Jones Matt Ogus cake beef back in the day was wild
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I like both gregg and dr mike The funny thing is that gregg forgot most of compete for that same reason i dont think im gonna be an ifbb pro and do well i am a top 3 in the country and would love to win a pro card because that was my child hood dream. When gregg competed like 5 ish years ago he knew he wasnt gonns win he did it and said it thst he loves to compete he did the same just because gregg wont anymore he shouldnt shame others he can educate to usr less gear for sure and thats a positive but he was in the same boat
Dude, I'm in chattanooga next time hit me up bro!
“Well I was sort of religious,” won’t work before the Almighty. You’re either in Christ or out of Christ and you’ll be quite disappointed if you believe this world is as good as it gets.
Good then I’ll see you in hell!
@@TigerFitness Sort of an odd comment, huh? My full faith for salvation is in Christ Jesus.
@@AltKuyperianThere is a higher power. But to believe it can only be accessed through any specific religion which have all been strategically designed to be against each other mind you (for divide and conquer purposes of course) is just sheer ignorance
@@Kingcuts91 There is only one that stands out. Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Light, no one approaches the Father except through Him.
Every other religion says that we are "mostly okay" people who just need a "little fixing," and you just have to do enough good to outweigh the bad that you do.
The sheer ignorance is believing that any of the other religions compare to the Lord Christ who is God made manifest in flesh and crucified for your transgressions to take the punishment owed to you onto Himself.
@@AltKuyperian Thinking it is a competition is the divide and conquer mindset at work.
I live on the coast of Maine right close to where you vacationed. That’s awesome.
As a physician myself ive learned anyone like Mike who insists on being called doctor is a very shallow person, Greg is a former drug dealer. Neither should be considered legit sources for information.
Your opinion is a logical fallacy called apppeal to authority.
Interestingly enough, Many of my physician friends are not actually "doctors", no PhD. Yes, they are licensed physicians, considered "MD's" but not actual doctors. Unfortunately the system doesn't correctly use the terminology. Agree, about Greg having an interesting background and arrest. I think he saw the error of his ways and has changed.
My doctor's at the VA were scared to be in a room with me in 2021 without a mask unless they were sitting across the room with the window open after admitting to having multiple shots and having COVID multiple times. You can be retarded and still be a doctor. Not saying you are or anything, just saying that title doesn't mean much anymore
I also wouldnt take advice from an average physcian
Physicians are useless. Start reading about AAS and stop talking shit😢
You would think a Dr would 100% nail conditioning come show time
Boooom Harder than last time !!
Gregg doucette brought me here.
LOVE GREG!!
I would like to purchase some S'mores Outright Bars but they have been out of stock for at least 3 months. Right now it seems like very few flavors ore in stock. As far the the video goes they are both right. Dr. Mike is doing what he believes he needs to do to achieve his goals, ;and Gregg is calling out behavior he sees as dangerous. I can remember a few years ago you talking about steroids and some of the people taking them were taking them as a way to try to avoid putting in the work. You stated these people were obvious because the people who actually put in the work and didn't take steroids' looked better. For me personally I have no desire to compete and my Testosterone level iis high enough that even when I am in my 70s in 10 years time I still won't need TRT. Keep up the god work.
Smores are in right now!
What ever happened to ian McCarthy? He used to be a science based "nerd"
He’s still around, we are on a Facebook group together!
Greg's a drama queen Canadian.
Have you seen what the drugs have done to blaha? He’s red as an apple and still looks like he doesn’t lift
I haven't lol
@@TigerFitness if you need a laugh take a look at him
OMG...hes still around?
@@LintBisquick that's what I was thinking, too. lol
@@Xeilhe is! The leanest he’s ever been. Actually pretty strong pulling 635 DL on his page.
b4 I go anywhere called "yummy cookie" I need to make sure my virus protection is up to date
That’s the coupon code
@johnnymiles8694 please don't believe the lies and fear mongering regarding viruses.
Love mike, I unfollowed greg for a reason. Greg loves drama and clickbait. Mike does it because he's passionate about lifting and body building.
Yeah me too! Hes so annoying 😅
The two most annoying people on the internet are fighting. Sounds good to me!!
I LEFT UNFLUSHED DIARRHEA IN MY FRIENDS BATHROOM AND WENT HOME, WHAT A STINK
Greg just doesn’t seem like an honest person. And unfortunately it shows in the ignorance of his viewers, 99.9% of whom have never taken gear and never stepped on stage --yet somehow think they know it all when it comes to steroids and competitive bodybuilding.
All fair arguments...Greg juiced, competed so he cant really say anything...its all just Greg making content.
he's speaking from experience...
He’s speaking from experience to give Mike a better perspective, he also hasn’t abused steroids for as long as Mike has and got off earlier in his life. I agree the Mike has a right to compete and if that’s what he wants then he should keep doing that, but Mike puts out his goals on a public domain and that automatically allows you open to public comments, Greg is also correct and has a right to say his 2 cents
If you truly think that this is heaven now you have what the Bible calls a reprobate mind I pray you come to the truth.
Your life sucks
@@TigerFitness the Bible specifically says" bodily exercise profits little " we need a relationship with God I pray you find Him brother.