Deltarune Newsletter (Valentine Winter 2024) analysis (Deltarune Theory)

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  • @toasty_mann
    @toasty_mann 10 місяців тому +51

    I don't care what anyone says I'm gonna believe that woody theory until chapter 3 comes out confirming or deconfirming it

  • @hubwubsushigames1774
    @hubwubsushigames1774 10 місяців тому +43

    When I first saw the little cup guy I just assumed that they had a piece of wheat sticking off of them. Like, it's definitely the right color.

  • @marcydarcy37
    @marcydarcy37 10 місяців тому +131

    NO NO NO NO NO, NOT FRIEND INSIDE OF ME NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @47northm
      @47northm 10 місяців тому +6

      I’m in your WALLS

    • @cat-on8gp
      @cat-on8gp 10 місяців тому +2

      Inside of who?

    • @Toomanygojis
      @Toomanygojis 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@cat-on8gpthe real questions

    • @lourdespachla6516
      @lourdespachla6516 10 місяців тому +1

      * YOU//CANNOT HIDE FROM//YOUR PROBLEMS//MARCYDARCY//YOU CANNOT RUN.

    • @lourdespachla6516
      @lourdespachla6516 10 місяців тому +1

      im inside your liver, i think you should drink less coke, there is too much uric acid crystals here.

  • @schalomforever
    @schalomforever 10 місяців тому +87

    You're pretty based for realising that the author of the letter is supposed to be a secret that's impossible to solve (yet) but to generate endless discussion.

  • @Gookwear
    @Gookwear 10 місяців тому +11

    Watching this video I realized something, when you mentioned that the secret boss of Ch 3 could be the host of a children's show I realized that the strange letter is written kinda in the way the host of a children's show would talk, friendly, constantly asking questions to the viewer and even the surprise when the reader answered out loud could be a reference to how those shows children are expected to do that, also, the fact that the letter fades away when somebody finish reading could point tot one of the darkners in the next chapter being a letter

  • @exe9582
    @exe9582 10 місяців тому +4

    To add onto the Red Solo Cup sprite you talked about, it reminded me of the concept art toby posted to his twitter in may of susie scooping punch out of a punch bowl with presumably a red solo cup

  • @CalamitasCalliope
    @CalamitasCalliope 10 місяців тому +16

    My gut reaction to seeing the cup guy was as a quill placed inside an inkwell. It actually took someone else pointing out the solo cup connection for me to see it.
    And i do think those visual parallels were intentional, and it may strengthen your chapter 4 idea even more. The base object is the cup used to scoop out the juice(though i am still confused on why the church wouldn't use a fancier method of getting the juice?) but it has been reinterpreted to fit the theme of the world. Like how the jack became a coathanger, or the top became a chef in Chapter one. Those roles don't necessarily match what the objects literally are, but they fit in with the theme. A red solo cup wouldn't fit into a fantasy world at all, but a quill with an inkwell would.

  • @ivythay4259
    @ivythay4259 10 місяців тому +17

    You forgot about Ice-E's, which also is shown to have red cups, since Nice Cream Guy is holding one. Still more likely it's the church due to the feather, but Ice-E's is a close second.

  • @SullyTheLightnerd
    @SullyTheLightnerd 10 місяців тому +50

    Friend inside me

  • @CalamitasCalliope
    @CalamitasCalliope 10 місяців тому +16

    My go-to thought for the Spooky Letter™ is the Egg Man. It's goofy and kinda off like everything with the Egg Man. Plus, the letter of outside the game in the right amount of not too important but not too unimportant.
    Now the idea of whether the Egg Man is Gaster or a piece of him or whatever who even knows.
    (But i do agree with your take at the end of this not being able to be given a definitive answer yet)

    • @MoRPho151
      @MoRPho151 10 місяців тому

      I also think this. Is the egg man, however, we don´t know WHO the eggman is supposed to be, so we still don´t know nothing xD.

  • @Jadinite-2006
    @Jadinite-2006 10 місяців тому +11

    I feel like that this in my opinion is what all of Dark World locations will be in (aside from 3 & 4).
    Chapter 1 - School Closet/Unused Classroom
    Chapter 2 - The "Librarby's" Computer Lab
    Chapter 3 - The Dreemurr Household
    Chapter 4 - The Church
    Chapter 5 - The Flower King Shop
    Chapter 6 - The Mysterious Bunker
    Chapter 7 - The Festival

    • @godofportal5905
      @godofportal5905 10 місяців тому

      YEAAAAAAAH

    • @godofportal5905
      @godofportal5905 10 місяців тому

      i do think chapter 5 would be the hospital though

    • @SlimeySlimeyBoy
      @SlimeySlimeyBoy 10 місяців тому

      @@godofportal5905 honestly, the flower king shop is alot more likely with the double doors and being owned by Asgore, Krises dad.
      A hospital dark world would be cool though

    • @godofportal5905
      @godofportal5905 10 місяців тому

      i just thought the idea of noelle trying to heal rudy in the dark world would be cool@@SlimeySlimeyBoy

    • @CongregationGDReal
      @CongregationGDReal 10 місяців тому

      @@SlimeySlimeyBoy cant wait for the scene where the rudy disease darkener says: it shadow crystalling time. and becomes the smallpox deity from the hit anime and manga by gege akutami released in 2018-2019 idfk jujutsu kaisen

  • @n.ar.
    @n.ar. 10 місяців тому +2

    i like your way of thinking! looking forward to more videos like dis

  • @AngelitaDourado
    @AngelitaDourado 6 місяців тому +3

    That still dosent kill the Woody theory, that just means that Kris and Susie wont dress wild west outfits anymore
    The Woody theory will never die because i believe in it

  • @multigrandmarquis
    @multigrandmarquis 10 місяців тому +3

    The mysterious letter was purely put in to distract from the red cup

  • @dantefilsdesparda
    @dantefilsdesparda 9 місяців тому

    Great video ! It's true that no one talk about the cup, I thought you were joking at first but you're right it has some implications !

  • @duccthatwaddles
    @duccthatwaddles 10 місяців тому

    I enjoyed the Ralsei ya~ys, always funni
    Good job focusing on the lil solo cup fezzer. You're the first I've heard focus on it. Also, the spooky letter definitely sounds like the (Egg) Man. Probably a piece of Gaster.

  • @3DFella
    @3DFella 10 місяців тому +5

    Chapter 4 could ALSO be in the Diner or Ice-Es, I don't know why people ignore those two as options but they seem like close contenders for the chapter 4 dark world in my opinion. Either Ice-Es or the diner would be unique places to set a dark world that have an interesting theme you could follow, that being food. Also I know people get tired of the "Toby would totally do that" thing, but honestly, putting the cup in the newsletter to make you think it's the church when it's actually the diner is totally a Toby move.

  • @MasonAlex-f9p
    @MasonAlex-f9p 6 місяців тому +1

    13:00 Wingdings translates to "I WROTE YOU THIS LETTER LMAO" W.D GASTER

  • @Christianburn-tq5mo
    @Christianburn-tq5mo 8 місяців тому +2

    the secret note dude is Gandalf the white

  • @lourdespachla6516
    @lourdespachla6516 10 місяців тому +1

    "some of the folks out there might be smarter than you, and stronger too, but none of them will never love you, and you've gotta FREE me, remenber what your ol' pal said so YOU'VE GOTTA FREE ME! And i've gotta a FRIEND INSIDE ME, and as the years go by... I'LL NEVER DIE, CUZ I'VE GOTTA A FRIEND INSIDE ME! and, bud, i need you to kill me, don't spare, just, keep, SWINGING."

  • @jjmyhero469
    @jjmyhero469 10 місяців тому +11

    dude the one who wrote the letter is onion duh

    • @jjmyhero469
      @jjmyhero469 10 місяців тому +3

      like deadass who forgets as much as onion

    • @blackchestnut
      @blackchestnut  10 місяців тому +8

      That's a good point it could total be onion

  • @Gookwear
    @Gookwear 10 місяців тому +5

    How feather relates to high fantasy real question

    • @blackchestnut
      @blackchestnut  10 місяців тому +3

      So the main point to me is that wearing a hat with a feather in it is a pretty common fantasy character design trope think robin hood, red mage from final fantasy. So I think the reason the feather is there is because the dark world is going to be fantasy themed and is trying to make the cup fit in with dark world. This is just one interpretation on why the feather is there, it could be wrong and the feather is there for some other reason.

    • @Gookwear
      @Gookwear 10 місяців тому +1

      @@blackchestnut Nah that sounds like a pretty plausible option (considering how little information we have)

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 10 місяців тому +1

      Using feathers in hats is a pretty old-fashioned thing.
      Many old fantasy settings have this as a prominent design
      I remember some D&D illustrations with prominent feathered hats, Neverwinter (a D&D based game franchise) also had them as an equip-able item.
      The blue and red mage in some FF games have a feathered hat too.
      It is also a common accessory for high fantasy wizards since they usually double as scholars who write and read on the go all the time (and use a feather for doing so).
      irl feathered hats where more popular in pretty old times too.
      So still likely medieval if not high fantasy (but i highly doubt Toby would pass up the chance to do high fantasy)

  • @mariposa7013
    @mariposa7013 10 місяців тому +1

    In my opinion i prefer that the author of the letter is the Egg Man, it’s a mysterious man (that i think it’s not Gaster) that is really chill and nice.
    Although i also like the possibility of it being the chapter 3/ Chapter 4 secret boss

  • @willeddy8775
    @willeddy8775 10 місяців тому +14

    How the hell does the red solo cup not make you think of ICE-E's

    • @willeddy8775
      @willeddy8775 10 місяців тому +2

      I mean church is most likely based on broader evidence, yeah, but ICE-E's was absolutely on my list of candidates when I saw the red solo cup

    • @davoid-
      @davoid- 10 місяців тому +6

      Oddly enough if going by the cup feather high fantasy deduction, the warrior ice-e employee also fits towards that theme with their dialogue

    • @whocaresaboutthename6850
      @whocaresaboutthename6850 10 місяців тому

      Ice-E is Blue themed tho

    • @willeddy8775
      @willeddy8775 10 місяців тому +2

      @@whocaresaboutthename6850 the color's irrelevant. My point is that disposable cups/plates/etc would be found in a pizza place

    • @whocaresaboutthename6850
      @whocaresaboutthename6850 10 місяців тому

      @@willeddy8775 Friend inside Me

  • @GodChaos333
    @GodChaos333 10 місяців тому +2

    VCR gang rise up! Im unfortunate to be old enough to own many VHS movies. Even had one of those small dedicated VHS rewinders. A small device only big enough to fit one VHS in it to rewind the movie. In case you need to rewind multiple movies lol. Things were slow back then

    • @MoRPho151
      @MoRPho151 10 місяців тому +1

      I used to have VCR and record movies and shows to watch them again later. My parents gave away my VHS original movies when CDs were a thing, but I still have my CD movies.

    • @GodChaos333
      @GodChaos333 10 місяців тому

      @@MoRPho151 yeah that was a neat feature. Even back then

  • @avandorhu-3389
    @avandorhu-3389 10 місяців тому +2

    I actually really like your take on the myster letter.
    Maybe you are right.
    Maybe we shouldn't be so hyperfixated on it.
    If anyone needs that distraction until chapter 3 & 4 i mean, sure.
    But i've always been a big advocate of letting a topic be until something substantial comes out.
    "ready when it's ready" as they say.

  • @MoRPho151
    @MoRPho151 10 місяців тому

    I think there has been very small disscussion of the cup because is just hard to figure it out what it is supposed to be, is it a cup or it is something else? A cup is the think that I think it looks like the most, but is weird too. Howver, if we asume is a cup... Has a feather, which cups don´t usually have at any context. So... since we can´t really argue anything directly people just dissmissed it as being: oh a future silly darkner...
    However, you are totally right that this can be used to deduce something. And you remembered a key element!! THE CHURCH JUICE.
    Honestly, I didn´t figure that out. This is why I like your videos, you always think something different than the rest of people.

  • @2001CuisinartToasterr
    @2001CuisinartToasterr 8 місяців тому

    i could imagine the church having a music theme to it

  • @UserNotFound-zw9rx
    @UserNotFound-zw9rx 10 місяців тому

    I didnt know the image in inspect element revealed the name of Chapter 3 was TV Time.
    You've got the best takes ever.

  • @EpicFailureFive
    @EpicFailureFive 10 місяців тому

    My thought on the red cup darkner is that it is some kind of unfinished arts and crafts project, specifically a turkey craft using a solo cup, feathers, and googly eyes. You can find similar craft projects online. I was already predicting this due to the mention of Rudy's angel doll having been made by Dess and Noelle in the church's youth group, and that this youth group class would be the specific location of the fountain inside the church. So my speculation is that Chapter 4's dark world will be some sort of summer camp theme with a lot teaching and arts and crafts. Would also fit the "chapter 4 where everyone goes to the beach" connection Alphys brought up about the Mew Mew anime.

  • @tcsghost6984
    @tcsghost6984 10 місяців тому +1

    I think the letter was pretty useful because I'll be real. I was a firm believer that it was just going to be the next secret boss even though I thought that was weird for Toby to tease. Cause it clearly wasn't Gaster and anyone swearing it was just wasn't really looking past it being mysterious. But Spookydood's latest video (In like the last two minutes why is that video 40 minutes long) makes a REALLY, REALLY strong case for it being the egg man, and I really don't think it could be anyone else now. And that does actually tell me something useful. Because this letter isn't written in the way Gaster speaks at all, that tells me the egg man isn't Gaster. Or at least, not the same piece of him if he's really been "shattered across time and space" into multiple characters which idk maybe. But either way, it basically crushes the assumption I've been making that they were the same character.
    What I'm saying is, it's a very possible riddle and I already solved it. Well, SpookyDood did but I'm going to take the credit because I'm not afraid to make definitive statements.

  • @alyx5491
    @alyx5491 10 місяців тому

    With Toby seemingly being a fan of the RTVS crew the Woody replacement could be a homage to CyberKIDZ.

  • @baaaldur
    @baaaldur 10 місяців тому +4

    enjoyed the more casual format here. i definitely thought of your ch4 prediction when i saw the little feathered red cup.

  • @feddy.five.nights8178
    @feddy.five.nights8178 10 місяців тому

    Hmm what if the letter was from the chapter 3 boss who could be a bouquet of flowers or some form of flower in general which was supposed and help the relationship between asgore and toriel or something that just came as a thought to me watching the video which was awesome I’m not confident in my theory but I think I just found a new channel to start watching have yourself a wonderful rest of your day! :D

  • @MoRPho151
    @MoRPho151 10 місяців тому

    I think I agree with you with the letter. Honestly I liked that Toby did this but I see this more as foreshadowing...
    I remember when in Undertale Dess and Noelle talking in the echo flowers had a lot of theories of who they were, and now after Deltarune chapter 02 we know who they are.
    Also, the Sans´s secret room is a complete tease of Deltarune.
    I think this letter is the same. We are going to figure it out who the eggman is, or who the author is in the next chapters, and probably in a way that is going to be pretty obvious. Toby just want to keep the fandom engage and entertained with something.
    PD: I used both CDs and VHS jajaja!

  • @TheMarioBBB
    @TheMarioBBB 10 місяців тому +4

    I feel like the letter being gaster is obvious personally, hes the only one to reffer to the world as Delta rune in universe, and also spaces out his text like that. "But hes too casual!!" Yeah. Its a holiday.

  • @jester8379
    @jester8379 10 місяців тому

    The Cup Walka's feather made me think it was an inkwell at first, if that counts for anything

  • @gradient5319
    @gradient5319 4 місяці тому

    The egg being not too important and not too unimportant makes me firmly believe the letter comes from him.

    • @gradient5319
      @gradient5319 4 місяці тому

      As well as the fact the letter also suddenly disappears much like "there was no man here"

  • @BrixVGM
    @BrixVGM 10 місяців тому

    11:18 But... we literally... in the Halloween Newsletter... got a handwritten message from Toby Fox, as the Annoying Dog, and it was clearly legible..???

  • @anbon4985
    @anbon4985 10 місяців тому +6

    carnival parade

    • @anbon4985
      @anbon4985 10 місяців тому +1

      thats the cup i think

  • @shitpostmania6061
    @shitpostmania6061 10 місяців тому

    I got ralsei letter too! But it was about how we enjoyed the letter with candy and not to eat all the other ones to check if they're food. The ralsei asks susie to stop moving his hand and at last "SUSIE DA BEST"

  • @heitorsant1759
    @heitorsant1759 10 місяців тому +1

    I had no clue about the red cup's existence

  • @dac6400
    @dac6400 10 місяців тому +1

    honestly i dont see how the concept art alt text deconfirms anything about woody theory? like, wasnt the whole starting point of it how weird the wording was in the newsletter? isnt the wording in the concept art still weird? (with what you mentioned about it calling them characters instead of costumes) i just dont think the concept makes it 99% deconfirmed as you said (unless theres something im missing which is entirely possible lol)
    nice video btw, i hadnt thought about what the red cup meant in terms of future chapters

  • @aman8865
    @aman8865 6 місяців тому

    The red solo cup is like clearly one those people wear in marching band and it even walks like its in a marching band saying its a high fantasy is kinda stupid because having a feather on your head has like nothing to do with high fantasy and trust because write high fantasy the feather cap is more like a robin hood sort of thing also the Susie -> Juice -> Church connection is pretty weak

  • @Allhaildexterity
    @Allhaildexterity 10 місяців тому +1

    I think the mystery letter is papyrus.

  • @jma0645
    @jma0645 10 місяців тому

    I immage that red cup boy will be the "nubert/starwalker" of the chapter

  • @Pepstep_07
    @Pepstep_07 10 місяців тому

    i think the letter is from the chapter 3 secret boss. It makes sense they'd be even more disoriented and aware of the fact they're in a game than spamton, if you look at jevil and spamton it seems each new chapter's secret boss will be more and more unhinged than the previous. I don't think the letter is gaster, so far everything we know about him thats canonically confirmed to be him is so ominous and threatening. It just doesn't fit his vibe overall

  • @DoomerSlice
    @DoomerSlice 10 місяців тому +1

    I thought the walking cup was supposed to be some kind of army hat or something. Like, the ones with feathers? Does anyone know what I'm talking about, does that make sense?

  • @lukematzner7996
    @lukematzner7996 10 місяців тому +1

    I think you are doing confirmation bias with your theory with the cup. I don’t think you should discount the idea that there might be a dark world at the Sadie hawk man’s dance or after it or before etc… Like just saying that that would make three dark fountains in the school is lazy, as there is nothing stopping a dark fountain from being in the school again especially with how we haven’t seen where that door to the left of the closet leads or the entire second floor, still plenty of new places to look at. Second, the dance could reasonably be a major plot point that is foreshadowed and bring in other characters like Noelle, Catti, and Jockington into a new dark fountain. Furthermore, the evidence you showed could just as easily apply to the dance as the church. Susie scooping up fruit juice could just be a fruit punch bowl at a party, which would match the cup. Not to mention, a bird themed dance makes the feather make much more sense to be on the cup than just writing fantasy setting. Feather apparel in those kinds of worlds are usually feathered caps or hats, and the sprite doesn’t scream fantasy world (not to say your theory is impossible, but that I would hardly call it more than speculation rather everything but confirmed)

  • @asterglaceon
    @asterglaceon 10 місяців тому

    I couldn’t hear you very well and I thought you were legitimately listing Dr. Eggman and Peewee Herman as possible candidates for who wrote the letter

  • @theunfunnykidinyourclass1366
    @theunfunnykidinyourclass1366 8 місяців тому

    Super boss is going to be pee Wee Herman, you can not change my mind

  • @iamheldhostage
    @iamheldhostage 10 місяців тому +1

    You gotta friend me

  • @scientificallyaccuratespino
    @scientificallyaccuratespino 10 місяців тому +4

    Black Chestnut video

  • @Doneycats
    @Doneycats 10 місяців тому +6

    Angel Hare theory fans, this is our moment.

    • @arwrw2
      @arwrw2 10 місяців тому +1

      I have no clue about this theory, but I'm on Board

  • @indigo7090
    @indigo7090 9 місяців тому

    that WERE gona show up for five seconds WERE NOT ARE

  • @Glass21k
    @Glass21k 6 місяців тому

    What if woody theory is clover

  • @CantusTropus
    @CantusTropus 10 місяців тому +1

    FrogChamp

  • @DELTARUNEFAN1997
    @DELTARUNEFAN1997 10 місяців тому +1

    WHY NOT A BETAMAX?!?!?
    YOU HAD TO COVER MY LAVIR AND NOT ME HUH?!?!
    HMMM.

  • @SullyTheLightnerd
    @SullyTheLightnerd 10 місяців тому +5

    Wait did people call it “cup” because it was actually a cup? I thought it was some weird slang for police car headlight!

  • @tiredtoastlol5
    @tiredtoastlol5 10 місяців тому

    I dont think a fantasy theme is likely for chapter 3 or 4. Its too similar to the royalty kinda theme in chapter 1, it could be fantasy and just completely different, but still.

  • @misterholmesian
    @misterholmesian 10 місяців тому

    You don't need to make it funnier to be worth watching. The analysis and reasoning is all that matters.

  • @TheGlenn8
    @TheGlenn8 10 місяців тому +4

    Gold star :D

  • @fire183
    @fire183 10 місяців тому

    Very Fire 🔥🔥

  • @dominikkulik5507
    @dominikkulik5507 10 місяців тому

    Hi bro you're awesome youtuber ,I got request for you.''Poof's killergarten''from nevrycards, I would be so hyped for it 😄

  • @marsgreekgod
    @marsgreekgod 10 місяців тому

    I work at good will I got a bunch of lazer disks yestorday

  • @moltengears7483
    @moltengears7483 10 місяців тому

    idk if its a cup it could be smth else like a hat of some kind

    • @blackchestnut
      @blackchestnut  10 місяців тому

      Toby calls it a cup in the newsletter

  • @ShadowSaberBaroxio
    @ShadowSaberBaroxio 10 місяців тому

    Asgore didn't get a Valentine letter.
    Why does Toby hate Goat Dad?

    • @ShadowSaberBaroxio
      @ShadowSaberBaroxio 10 місяців тому

      Actually, this is interesting. Maybe Spooky Letter was written by Gaster/Eggman, and maybe he was trying to help Asgore.
      Asgore is one of the few people with a connection to Gaster, he may be researching soul traits with his flowers, and you can give him the Egg you get from Eggman.
      Asgore didn't get a Valentines, so maybe he's the one in need of help?

  • @SlimeySlimeyBoy
    @SlimeySlimeyBoy 10 місяців тому

    The "Spooky gaster letter" doesn't speak like gaster does. It uses "!", forgets things and isnt as formal. REALLY Doubt its Kris, Toby or fox. Definitely aint a future boss fight or the eggman.
    To me, from it all being capital letters to being goofy and loud... doesnt that sound like a certain missing skeleton? Yeah, this letter feels like something Papyrus would right. Especially lines like "Wash your hands and your coat, or wash your coat and your hands, not nessescarily in that order". Papyrus isnt exactly the best handwriter either.
    Maybe thats just a papyrus fan holding onto hope that their favourite character will appear in the game :P

    • @lourdespachla6516
      @lourdespachla6516 10 місяців тому +1

      * bro trust me paps is the chapter 5 secret boss.

  • @TrixyTrixter
    @TrixyTrixter 10 місяців тому +2

    But is the cup the knight? /jk

    • @elliottessel9530
      @elliottessel9530 10 місяців тому

      i thought you were serious!!

    • @TrixyTrixter
      @TrixyTrixter 10 місяців тому

      @elliottessel9530 XD I knew someone would think that!

    • @JakeyTale
      @JakeyTale 10 місяців тому

      omg!! I also thought you were serious hahaha thats crazy

    • @elliottessel9530
      @elliottessel9530 10 місяців тому

      @@JakeyTale wait what?? no way!! this is truly a coincidence not even toby fox could plan!! lets kiss

  • @HyperScepterOfficial
    @HyperScepterOfficial 10 місяців тому

    you dont make fun theories