How To Program Realistic Sounding Strings: PART 2 - Symphonic
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2016
- Christian continues his treatise into programming realistic strings, featuring another live composition session (albeit under the time constraints of a youtube presentation!).
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00:07 "I've done a bunch of orchestral scores but, there is just one catch: *I can't really read music, I don't know much theory and I didn't study this at college*"
I've found hope again. Motivation back to 1000%
Thank you
Just like me.
I get frustrated at people like this who call themselves composers and don't know notation or at least some general theory.
Ronald Kapaun yes and I agree music knowledge does not govern composition ability.. HOWEVER, my point is that you shouldn't say 'im a composer' if you don't have these qualities. Composition is an elite thing. (Not that an amateur can't make music), I mean that if you want to call yourself a composer (this has little to do with your actual work), you have to know theory, understand music and the things you previously listed. This is for the prestigious LABEL of bring a composer. :)
What if you literally compose music for a living and do not know music theory? What are you then?
well, you are literally a composer, but in terms of your level of expertise, it is no where as prestigious or high as one who can compose with good-helpful theory.
I am not trying to belittle non-theory composers, I'm just saying it is extremely important to know theory and notation. It is essential to being a legit, well rounded composer.
Please continue to make these Christian. They are amazing. Thank you
True teacher!
@impr0visati0n u said the same thing twice
@impr0visati0n ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
“You’d be looking at sitting and watching UA-cam for a couple of days at least. Obviously we can’t do that.”
You underestimate my power
Probably the best video I've seen on YT i don't think I've seen anyone compose a piece in so much detail and breakdown, this has helped me a lot
Brilliant. Not only is this valuable for writing for strings, but shows the real value in the investment made in your products!
Fantastic! Thank you for your clear and inspiring teaching style! Spitfire Audio is simply wonderful!
Thank you so much Christian. Amazing! So much respect for people that go out of their way to share their knowledge.
Wonderful watching you work Christian, thank you for your time to do this!
Thank you for this. So much useful info. Great to just watch you work and think. I've played cello for 30 years, and your comments on how string players and orchestras play and think are spot on.
Thanks so much Christian! Truly enjoy these tutorials. Hope you can continue.
One of the best videos I've seen on UA-cam ...not only can you explain it .. but you can play it....that leads to Total understanding ...thank you!!!!
All the best,
-Justin Andrew Duncan
This series is just fantastic. I'm learning so much. Can't wait for the next one. Thank you!
So impressed by this workflow, just lovely to watch!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insight of how to program / create your composition. This was an eye opener for me. Cheers Christian.
Wonderful videos, Christian. Thank you. Just one thing and I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but in Logic, you can go to 'Project Settings' and click on the 'MIDI' preferences and open the 'Chase' tab. Check 'Notes' 'Sustained' and that way your notes will trigger a sustained note without the need for a Note On. This way you won't need to keep freezing sustained sections :)
Thank you christian. These are amazing and make me feel more comfortable about buying sample libraries. I am a spitfire fan now.
Glad I'm not the only one that lubes up before writing music.
many thanks christian and everyone at spitfire for allowing us too see how you work its truely inspiring ..also cant wait for you too get the labs up on your website ive bought them all and wish youd do smaller budgeted products more often.
Just amazing Christian, THANK YOU, GOD BLESS!
A natural at the art. Really insightful! Glad I stumbled on this series.
What a wunderful material. Great music. Great display. Great scenario. Great photography.
Congrats.
Love love love these videos! Thank you Christian
Blessings
Superb video Christian! Thank you for sharing!
These videos are so great! I’m learning so much. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience with us!
Man, this is awesome!! Please keep it comin!
Very powerful, great presentation of your workflow!
Thanks
So much great information! gonna be coming back to your videos for a while :) Thank you. And if you have time, feel free to keep doing these!
PS -- Really only absorbed this on a surface level so far but even organization basics have helped tremendously on minimizing the frustratingly schizophrenic nature of my writing. Thank you!
I just purchased BBCSO Core and look forward to downloading it. I also stumbled across this series of videos and am going to watch them all! Wish me luck on my journey to learn to compose orchestral / symphony music :)
This is Amazing! So much knowledge in 40 mins film!
just those 2 additional (seemingly dissonant) notes 07:39 kicks the door open to bernard herrmann standing there! great job, christian!
Fantastic tutorial, thanks Christian!
Inspiring, informative, well explained - thanks a lot !
Thank you! I have waited years for something like this and when I was writing everyday there was nothing that came close. But i also have to say at 28mins I started to hear Roger Water singing " crazy, toys in the attic I am crazy, truly gone fishing" from The wall. Strings and rock or other genres can work well and this is how I plan to use them..
insanely valuable session, thank you!
Awesome tutorial, just purchased Albion 1 . Please keep them coming.
Wow! Thabk you for this wonderful insight into your world.
Great free class!! Thank you!
This is awesome as am also into these heavy orchestration stuff!!
very solid & to the point keep up the good work sir
It's an ear worm of a run. Top stuff and appreciated!
Thank you for the tutorial. and mainly thank your for introducing me to the word splosh when referring to reverb.
Loved it!
This is so fascinating and motivating
Amazing tutorial!!
The gentle arte of not doing too much ❤
Great images and photos. !
great thank you. Love it
The IR vs. algorithmic discussion was very interesting.
Elsif very true!
Great stuff!
I know this is over three years ago, just found it, your score is very Jerry Goldsmith, Patriot Games, Alien, love it.
WOW a video I dont mind watching...amazing tutorial
Very talented and a Master, I'm subscribed.
As another none trained player, thank you. Good sounds and a sense of purpose, win :)
Great showcase
Thanks. Very informative :)
Thank You!
sick video, thx!!!!
I really enjoyed your presentation, thank you. I'm currently working with the standard Logic orchestral set up, which isn't bad but these sounds that you have showcased are very nice.
Stock Logic samples are very very good also. You can get a realistic sound out of them if you work them hard enough
Went to rewatch the intro to this video. Quite useful info there m8
that was awesome
thanks for the education ..... I'm now enlightened
Issie wizzie can you walk on water yet ?
getting close lol
Amazing videos! So rewarding to watch!
Question: I haven't really understood how I should ride Dynamics vs Expression. Watching these videos it seems like you're riding the Dynamics and Expression almost exactly the same....?
Fantastic video :) What Valhalla plugin do you recommend for orchestral samples?
Great video! Would you be willing to share you logic template or do a quick walkthrough of your setup. Love it. Well done.
Holy moly dad! Thank you
Can you show us how you mapped dynamics, expression, and vibrato in logic?
Can anyone please do a tutorial on sound design for these strings using subtractive synthesis?
Thank You! I enjoyed this! One of the biggest "Pluses" to not having a formal training is "The Freedom of not having to conform to what is technically right; and what is supposed to not go together". You made moves in your "harmonic Choices" that "many" trained people would never do. As well, I think people that are not trained have a more connected & organic way of composing.
Lovely work! Do you somewhere explain the tempo map in this cue?
Amazing videos! thank you. Could you perhaps make a video how you setting up Logic? I found it very interesting to watch your workflow especially in How to make a realistic mock ups.
Great couple of in depth tutorials Christian. Did part 3 ever happen yet?
It's been a while since this but are you able to put the instruments used from the tutorial here? Thanks for this, it has been the most invaluable learning video thus far.
Incredibly useful video as always. What is the "tape/adhesive" or whatever it is that you have used to name your faders on the keyboard? I have no idea what's it called but I remember it from my childhood! Anyway, I'd love to find that out, thanks!
After watching this video I've swapped default metronome sounds in my installation of Ableton Live with the Logic samples :3
But settings up a template of Spitfire Symphonic strings where all the artictualtions go to different tracks is quite interesting. Did you load same patches multiple times and then just set corresponding articulation in each patch? That sounds like hell of a lot RAM.
Christian, can you provide some insight on programming my Motif XS8 fader to control Dynamics/Expression/Vibrato?
Love the video. I'm confused about the transpose trick at 20 mins 20 secs. I must be missing something but why transpose when you haver the basses loaded and could just play the bass line in? Also, regarding outputs (1 Longs, 2 Shorts, 3 Pizz/Col Leg, 4 Harm/Trem/SFX - Would you class Trills as a Long or under SFX? Just one more question... In SCS I am playing through every patch and I am loving the Legato patches but where would you route the Legato Decorative Legato Trem. I'm torn about this one ;)
Thanks again!
brilliant !!!!!
Hey Christian,
Thanks for this. Could you detail the hotkey sequence you're executing at 5:10 for the force legato, bounce in place and duplication? I'm doing this all day long, and although I have certain hot keys that accomplish, nothing as quickly as your doing it. Would love any help you could offer. Cheers.
hey man so just getting into these videos and tutorials--amazing! as of now, I use logics built in strings, which really aren't too bad, (you've probably mentioned this in a video) but where do you get these sort of string sounds?
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You're the best
How do you assign midi cc to your controller fader? I have cc 1 to the mod wheel but I want to assign dynamics and expression to a couple of the faders on my akai mpk261.
Wonderful, insightful tutorial! Extremely inspiring!
Couple people have already asked, but could you explain what you're doing at 5:05 when you begin to say "I'm not a patient man.. lasso, force legato". What is the exact intent behind doing that? You only froze those two but never used the freeze function later.
Hi Christian, Q I noticed certain actions you do where difficult with a weighted keyboard is a semi weighted Keyboard any better like the Native Instrument Komplete Kontakt 61 and or 88 what do you prefer for overall composing? cheers.
Is that your string attack time and sustain under your keybroad's control?
Awesome video! Can someone tell me what Christian did at 5:05 please where he says "lasso and force legato"?
He extended the midi region and used the edit function of the midi region called force legato which in this case basically extended those drone notes to the end of the midi region.
Thank you Chris for your hugely helpful videos. You are a true educator!
May I ask, do you, or does anyone here use an expression pedal to do string stuff? If so, do you have any recommendations as to one that works well? If not, why not?
I think pedals are really more for live use.
Using faders gives one infinitely more nuance and control.
muy buena musica....saludos desde Bolivia
At 22:49, how do you go about adding in only live dynamics with your faders?
Basic question, how can I assign expression and modulation to my controller's faders? (my library doesn't have dynamic option unfortunately)
You browse CC parameters in your daw, you'll find them somewhere you could google it and then have a midi out for your kontakt instance and by default CC#1 is Modulation and Expression is CC#7 even if they don't in exist in your library as an option. Assign your faders to 1 and 7 and they will automatically be MOD wheel and Exp.
34:50 Man ,your the Harry Potter ❤️
I'm Gobsmacked ,I genuinely mean it !
Hello,
why did you adjust the "density " to 1/8 as you were changing the tempo in the beginning?
I was programming an accelerando into the new tempo, and I like these to be smooth, hence 1/8ths
Very nice! what are you modulating with the left hand, volume and reverb send?
I believe he's changing volume dynamics and modulation Control Changes to ensure that the strings sound as good, natural and believable as possible. I think he mentions the faders on the keyboard and what he's doing with them somewhere near the beginning of the video if I remember correctly.
Any chance you can send us the template for this song?
Can you please tell which korg keyboard model is this??
what name is this synthesizer?
Hi. I am bit bit confused about what you are referring to with the "5 voices". Can you elaborate on what you are considering a "voice"?
Are the 5 voices the sections of 1st and 2nd violins, viola, cello, and basses?
Thanks very much for this awesome series.
Yes, it is quite a good discipline to write for 5 voices so you're not 'divisi-ing' the band.
I know this is so basic, but I'm having a hard time finding a tutorial for mapping the three automation parameters you have set to the sliders on your MIDI controller (Dyn., Exp, Vib.). Anyone have a link to a good tutorial for that? Thanks for the video, Christian.
For Albion Just right click on the expression slider or any of the others sliders within Kontakt and choose learn CC then move any fader or control knob on your midi device/keyboard and viola.
"Expression" is simply missing from most VST's, and it's difficult to emulate. Dynamics and vibrato are usually available, but if they're not they can be done from your DAW or another plugin. I think most modern DAW's will also let you automate these.
Is it me or does he use more than 5 voices by the end? (Which at the beginning he says you shouldn't do)...
Loved it bro keep it up, don’t mind the haters....there will always be haters no matter what lol.